1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Tutor Dixon Podcast in the Clay 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: and Book podcast Network. 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I'm Tutor Dixon, and 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: I am so glad you are tuning in to the 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 2: podcast today because I'm joined by someone that I was 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 2: really impressed with in the last election cycle. She took 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: on the Democrat machine in a solidly blue district in Indiana, 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: coming very close to taking back a seat that had 9 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: not been held by Republicans for ninety more than ninety years. 10 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 2: Welcome to Jennifer Ruth Green, a senior advisor to Polaris 11 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 2: National Security, former Republican congressional nominee in Indiana as the 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 2: first District and current Lieutenant colonel in the Indiana Air 13 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 2: National Guard. Jennifer Ruth thank you for joining me. 14 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me here at Pilaris. 15 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 3: We talk a lot about Tutor Dixon and the greatness 16 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,639 Speaker 3: of what you do, what you have done, and Morgan Ortegas, 17 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 3: our founder, is incredibly pleased with you, and so we're 18 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 3: just thankful for the work that you do continue to 19 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 3: fight for in America that will win. 20 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Well, we were very excited to 21 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: have her on a few days back, and we talked 22 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: to her a lot about what's going on with China 23 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: right now. I mean, there is so much going on 24 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: in the national security realm, it's just insane, and I 25 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: can't imagine how busy you guys are. But you ran 26 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: an incredible race, So that to me first and foremost, 27 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: I wanted to talk to you about that because I 28 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: think that people don't understand how challenging it is to 29 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: step out and run. And you know, I was just 30 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: talking to someone who is running for Congress in Florida 31 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: right now. Huge kudos to you because you were attacked mercilessly, 32 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: but your race was very interesting. I want to get 33 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 2: into that because I think the thing that stuck out, 34 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: the thing that people will remember you by, is that 35 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: some of your personal files were leaked out of your 36 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: service time serving this country, and that was most shocking 37 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: to all of us. So can you kind of explain 38 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: to our listeners what happened and how that feel as 39 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: someone who is out there publicly putting yourself out there 40 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: and had already served so absolutely well. 41 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 3: First of all, thank you for giving me the opportunity 42 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 3: to talk about it. It's been a while it happened, 43 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 3: you know, about forty days before the election, and so 44 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 3: now having six or seven months to kind of process it, 45 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 3: there's been a lot where emotionally, I've had to think 46 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 3: through the realities and impacts of what actually happened, But 47 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 3: as far as the facts go, about thirty to forty 48 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 3: days before the election, I had an interview with a 49 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 3: reporter from Politico named Adam Ren and we flew together. 50 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: I had the opportunity to pilot a plane. He sat 51 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 3: next to me, was asking questions, wanting to get to 52 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: know me, and we landed. Everything went well. He did 53 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: an interview, and then later that week he connected with 54 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 3: our team and asked for some follow up information. And 55 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 3: he asked for follow up information about a couple of 56 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 3: different items. You know, what was this switch, What year 57 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 3: was the plane? What make, what model? And then he said, 58 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 3: and I'd like to talk to Jennifer Ruth about sexual 59 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 3: she experienced in Baghdad while she was deployed in combat. 60 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 3: And that was a story, a piece of my life 61 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 3: that I had connected with the VA about to get help, 62 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 3: but with a close circle of small friends. It was 63 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 3: something that I had told a couple of people in 64 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 3: my family about, but it was not something that was 65 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 3: broadly known and I wanted to protect my parents from 66 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 3: and so I was surprised that he had this information. 67 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: So your parents weren't even aware of this. 68 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 1: They weren't, they were not. 69 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: Oh it was a very difficult call. So this is 70 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: how ugly elections are, isn't it? 71 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 3: It is it's And the hard part is you can 72 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 3: talk about policies all day long and you can say 73 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 3: this person believes this, I believe this, This solution is 74 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 3: in is not going to be impactful. 75 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: This solution is going to help. This is what I recommend. 76 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 3: But the inhumaneness is where I believed multiple lines were 77 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 3: crossed and I can't understand. I can understand if you 78 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 3: were to take a picture when I had a bite 79 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 3: in and say, oh, Jennifer's gain ten pounds over the campaign, 80 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 3: and of course that's unkind, but that's. 81 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: Dirty politics to me, right. 82 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 3: But when you take actual, factual information about something that 83 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 3: transcends the political realm and is a human element and 84 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 3: you decide this is what I want to weaponize. 85 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: I quickly lose respect for kind of the process. 86 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 2: What was the point of weaponizing this? Because I mean, 87 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: how can this be something that someone you it just 88 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,239 Speaker 2: to me, is so sick that they would go after 89 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: and assault something the a trauma that you have lived through. 90 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 2: What was the goal in this. 91 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 3: The only thing that I can think of is having 92 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 3: a situation where you throw me off my game. If 93 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 3: I am so mentally, physically, emotionally unstable because I'm redirecting 94 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: my emotions, I'm living through or revisiting all of the 95 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 3: facts that come from being sexual assaulted and all of 96 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 3: those experiences, it's hard for me to want to outside. 97 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 3: It's hard for me to want to connect with people. 98 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 3: It's hard for me to shake hands, it's hard for 99 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 3: me to give speeches. And if you're forty days away 100 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,119 Speaker 3: from something huge where people are really listening and really 101 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: paying attention, if you can throw me off my game 102 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 3: and make me less efficient when we are here from 103 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 3: you know, like you said, in a heavy ninety two 104 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 3: year democratic blue district and we had the opportunity to 105 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 3: kind of exponentially skyrocket in this experience due to great help, 106 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 3: great people, then you only want to do something to 107 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 3: cripple me. And so that is the only thing that 108 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 3: I can think of. They wanted to cripple me personally, 109 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 3: so I was less effective leading up to the most 110 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 3: important parts of getting people getting to know me as 111 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 3: they're paying attention the last month before election. 112 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 2: That is I mean, it is really sick and I 113 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: think this is the side of elections. People don't see 114 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 2: or they think, well, you've put yourself out there, and 115 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: to a certain extent, yes, you've put yourself out there, 116 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 2: but this was a private personnel file. I mean that 117 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: begs the question. And you were in the general election 118 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 2: at this point, correct, yes, so that begs the question like, 119 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: how does this information get out there? How do people 120 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: find this and who is out there trying to do this? 121 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 2: But we know that on the Democrat side it is 122 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 2: very cutthroat. They have a lot of information that they 123 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 2: are working with and it's challenging. I mean, you were 124 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 2: running in a very blue district. I ran in a 125 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: state that is now fully blue. Tell us a little 126 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: bit about that, because you are in an area that 127 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 2: is very pro union. You've got a lot of the 128 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 2: steel mills right there. We know that the unions have 129 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 2: just come out strongly in support of Joe Biden, even 130 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: though Joe Biden doesn't probably know that the unions came 131 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: out strongly in support of him. They did, so why 132 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: do why do we see this? Because I mean Trump 133 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: really kind of changed that. You know when when Trump 134 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 2: ran the Union folks, the members they voted for Trump, 135 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 2: even though you've got the union bosses saying you got 136 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: to vote for a Democrat. So why do you think 137 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: it's kind of going back to why are they pushing 138 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 2: so hard for the Dems? 139 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: So well? 140 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 3: In our district, President Trump won forty percent of the 141 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 3: Union vote and so definitely very heavy We're right to 142 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 3: work state, though, So I think there's some things that 143 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 3: we had to temper in the campaign to kind of 144 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 3: convey the message that we're here for you, right, we 145 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 3: would welcome tariffs if it came across our desk, and 146 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 3: we had to figure out how we were going to 147 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 3: deal with steel and how are we going to deal 148 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 3: with imports, and how are we going to deal with 149 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 3: China or how we're going to do with Russia and 150 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: how their steel is coming in through other countries that 151 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 3: they've sold to and are still getting profit from as 152 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 3: a result of some of the poor policies that are 153 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 3: in place today. 154 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 2: And so, and the tariffs did really help that area, 155 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 2: didn't they because those are genuine steel mills, so they 156 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,679 Speaker 2: are making ingots for people to process in all different 157 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: areas of the United States. I mean, it is really 158 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: very critical that those steel mills are continuing to operate. 159 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: And I think what people don't understand is that for 160 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 2: years they've struggled, and so Trump comes in, he puts 161 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: in these tariffs. All of a sudden, people are really 162 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: forced at that point to buy us, or not necessarily forced, 163 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 2: but it's not appealing to go to China to buy 164 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 2: steel anymore. So that particular section of Indiana should have 165 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: been pretty pleased with those decisions. 166 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, and I think that, you know, one of 167 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 3: the things that from a defense perspective, obviously working with Polaris, 168 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 3: we think about how if we're building ships, if we're 169 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 3: building our arsenal, I definitely want American resources and to 170 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 3: know that there are people that are actively building with materials. 171 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: That are going to be helpful. 172 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 3: Because the standard line that I wanted people to understand 173 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 3: was if we get into war with China, which I 174 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 3: do not think is something that is so far fetched, 175 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 3: but if we go to warwick China, they're not going 176 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 3: to sell us the steel to be able to beat 177 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 3: them and so we don't have to be self sufficient. 178 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: Shocking, and I think that you know, full transparency. 179 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 3: I just liken it to Stockholm syndrome. You know, we've 180 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 3: heard about that case in Stockholm, Sweden, where there are 181 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 3: people that were kidnapped and they were there so long 182 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 3: with their captors, they're just like, oh, this isn't so bad. 183 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 3: And I think more so than being a Republican in 184 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 3: a long led blue district, being a black Republican in 185 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 3: a primarily black district or a high density population of 186 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:25,359 Speaker 3: African Americans is something that was far more contentious. 187 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: And so in connecting with people, we want the same things. 188 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: We want to have better lives, we. 189 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 3: Want to have security for the future, we want to 190 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 3: have children who have the opportunity to succeed and excel. 191 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 3: But the pathway with how we get there is filtered 192 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 3: through the lens of political parties. And I think that 193 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 3: our point was, Hey, I want to share the same 194 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 3: message that I want better, I want to have better, 195 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 3: I want to be better, I want to do better. 196 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: I want the same for you, and this is how 197 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: I can help. 198 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 3: And you know, there was a clear shift, There was 199 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 3: a clear line I've been in the community a lot 200 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 3: as an aviator, running an o profits, striving to help 201 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 3: our young people grow in aviation and that kind of thing, 202 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 3: reaching underrepresented young people, and been in the community, been 203 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 3: in schools in Garrett and all around the northwest Indiana area. 204 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 3: But as soon as I came out and declared and said, hey, 205 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: I'm a Republican because I believe these things, people wanted 206 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 3: nothing to do with me. 207 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: And so that was a shift for me. 208 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 3: More so than being a Republican is being a black 209 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 3: Republican who was previously accepted as perhaps an example or 210 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 3: somebody that should be, you know, lifted up, not necessarily 211 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 3: for my ego, but for the opportunities I could provide 212 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 3: or teach or train into the community. And now I'm 213 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 3: you know, I'm somebody that is persona and grata in 214 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 3: some places. 215 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: So that was the biggest shift for me. 216 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 2: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 217 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 2: a Tutor Dixon podcast. Obviously, we hear you're talking about China, 218 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 2: and I think that what you said about Stockholm syndrome 219 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 2: is very accurate because if I even if I just 220 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 2: peruse social media, I will see if somebody says something 221 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 2: negative about China, and we have come out in Michigan 222 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 2: and said this Chinese battery factory that we're paying tax 223 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: us or Michigan taxpayer dollars to come to the state 224 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 2: of Michigan. You know this is a problem because they 225 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 2: are directly connected to the Chinese Communist Party. Now, I 226 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: think that what people the Democrats like to do is say, oh, well, 227 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: then that person doesn't like anybody that is a Chinese American. No, 228 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 2: our Chinese American citizens came here because they know what 229 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: we are ignorant to. They know how dangerous the Chinese 230 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 2: Communist Party is. So from your perspective, honestly, as a 231 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 2: black woman, when they come out and they say, well, 232 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 2: if you say this stuff it's racist, how do you 233 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 2: I mean, how do you even respond to that? You know? 234 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 3: I think if we look at the Party of Separation, 235 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 3: it is certainly not the Republican Party, the party that 236 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 3: wants to divide us and figure out as many ways 237 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 3: as possible to separate us into various groups, to elevate some, 238 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 3: to lift up, to push down others. 239 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 1: Whether it's at vertin or in invertin. 240 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 3: It's something that they continue to bear down on very heavily, 241 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 3: and they consider, you know, this type of politics and 242 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 3: what I just strive, I mean, I call it emotionally 243 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 3: based politics. 244 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: And you will see that, you. 245 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 3: Know, sometimes we'll see things like when Nancy Pelosi was 246 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 3: the Speaker of the House and Black Lives Matter, she 247 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 3: would she went out and wore a day shiki and 248 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 3: she would wash people's feet, black people's feet in the streets. 249 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 3: And they were these fantastic and by fantastic, I mean 250 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 3: over the top exaggerated overtures so that people could see 251 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 3: that they were so serious about what they meant. But 252 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 3: yet when you look at the politics and how they're 253 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 3: impacting people, whether it's hey, everyone, we want you to 254 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 3: be satisfied. 255 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: We want you to be happy, we want you to 256 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: feel good. We don't want you to be offended. 257 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 3: The police offend you, Okay, we'll put a stop to them. 258 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 3: And oh this offends you, Okay, we'll put a stop 259 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 3: to this. And I think that there are so many 260 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 3: instances where they feel like they're emotionally doing the right thing, 261 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 3: but yet they're really causing great difficulty. One instance that 262 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 3: I think is prime is Supreme Court Justice Katanji Jackson 263 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 3: Brown before she got appointed. President Biden was very clear 264 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 3: and he said, I'm going to appoint the first black 265 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 3: woman on the Supreme Court. And everyone said, yay, great, 266 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,599 Speaker 3: that's a great plan. However, I had the opportunity to 267 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 3: write an out ed and I said, listen, she has 268 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 3: served her country, served in the courts. If I may 269 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 3: or may not agree with her decisions, however she has 270 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 3: earned the opportunity to serve in the highest court in 271 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 3: the land, then she should be able to stand strong 272 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 3: with her peers because. 273 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: She is qualified. 274 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 3: But when you preempt her arrival with the fact that 275 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 3: you are picking her because of this, it lessens the 276 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 3: validity of her opportunity to serve in that role as 277 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 3: a relevant teammate. And so people walk in and they say, oh, 278 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 3: she's the first black woman on the Supreme Court, but 279 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 3: they should say she's a qualified Supreme Court justice. And 280 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 3: when you qualify it, you make her less than her 281 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 3: other peers. And I don't think you're elevating things. And 282 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 3: I think it's this paradox that they find themselves in 283 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 3: that they don't recognize. When you try to make all 284 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 3: these separations, you don't make people feel more special. You 285 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 3: actually diminish their ability to serve in the places where 286 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 3: you want them to be. 287 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you something in this maybe a 288 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 2: controversial statement, but why did the Democrats skip over black men? 289 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: I mean in life really because they went from white 290 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: men to black women, to transgender, but they do not 291 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 2: lift up black men. It's an area in the United 292 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: States where we really suffer. We need to be lifting 293 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: up black men, especially in our communities, where young men 294 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 2: in these minority communities need to look and see that 295 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 2: there are black men lifted up. And if you look 296 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: at these administrations, where are the black men and where 297 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 2: are the celebrations of black men? 298 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: That's a really interesting point. 299 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 3: You know, I don't know that I've actually thought that 300 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 3: deeply about it, but I do know that the minority leader, 301 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 3: Jakim Jeffries, he's a black man. And I don't know, 302 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 3: you know, the rest of the makeup of Congress, but 303 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: I knew that the Congressional Black Caucus has a lot 304 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 3: of black men in it. But if you're thinking about 305 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 3: the party and how they're pushing people and moving people, 306 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 3: I think if you're dealing with emotional based politics, you're 307 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 3: going to work with. 308 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: The people that will give you the most bang for 309 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: your buck. 310 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 3: So who's going to be out there rolling on the streets, 311 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 3: who's going to get the chance to be on. 312 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: The next ad who are you going to be able 313 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: to push and whoever is the loudest. 314 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 3: And so if they are black men that are involved 315 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 3: in politics, involved in their communities, involved in those types 316 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 3: of things, they'll either snatch them up. But is it 317 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 3: a people group that are actively doing things politically right 318 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 3: now or are they just trying to capture the people 319 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 3: who are at the forefront. And you know, like the 320 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 3: Black Lives Matter mission, Black Lives Matter used to have. 321 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: A very specific purpose. 322 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 3: It was a Marxist organization and it had a very 323 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 3: specific thing that it wanted to do, advance black objectives 324 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 3: in a man. But then, as you can see, as 325 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 3: time went on, whatever was popular, it began to add 326 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 3: to its manifesto. And so the leadership said, well, now 327 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 3: we're ending transgender people. Now we're adding this, now we're 328 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 3: adding that, and now they have this entire pot of things, 329 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 3: and they say, give us money because we're supporting all 330 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 3: of these elements. And so I think they're emotionally based, 331 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 3: emotionally driven, and whatever is most popular is what they're 332 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 3: going to do. So the minute that black men say 333 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 3: we're going to step up and want to do more 334 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 3: things and be involved and be engaged, that they might 335 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 3: be the next political target. But you're absolutely right. 336 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: I think I think that I think that strong black 337 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: men scare them because if you look at Black Lives Matter, 338 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: if you look at the description on their website that 339 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 2: you used to be on there, it was that we 340 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 2: want to lift up black women, and we want to 341 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 2: lift up single moms, and that we should raise children 342 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 2: as a community, and we want to lift up transgender 343 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: and it was specific to say that black mothers can 344 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 2: raise children without a father in the home, And so 345 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 2: it was there was even though the organization was supposedly like, 346 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: you know, we're going to help support these people who 347 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 2: have been unfairly targeted by the police, that was not 348 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 2: their mission statement. And so once again they're not really 349 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 2: lifting up strong black men, strong black fathers. And I 350 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 2: think that there is it seems to me that the 351 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 2: goal of the left is to not have a strong 352 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 2: black father in the home. 353 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: I think there's a clear dissolution. 354 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 3: And a breakdown of masculinity on the left. But I 355 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 3: would say that I don't believe that either party is 356 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 3: focusing on developing the black man, and so I don't 357 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 3: think that across America we have an understanding of the 358 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 3: importance of the home, the importance of having a two 359 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 3: parent household, the. 360 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: Importance of what it takes. 361 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 3: I think a lot of problems start in the home, 362 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 3: and that's the basis of my faith as a Christian. 363 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: I think the home is the most important place where learning. 364 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 3: Begins, where love begins, where you're understanding of human treatment 365 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 3: and character begins. And so I would say that, yes, 366 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 3: admittedly the black men are left behind on the left, 367 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 3: but on the right as well, and so I. 368 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: Think we're equally as reprehensible in that environment. 369 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: Don't you think that a lot of this goes back 370 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,479 Speaker 2: to the education in those communities. I mean, if I 371 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 2: look in at Michigan, the education rate for black students 372 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 2: is so much the proficiency rate is so much lower 373 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 2: than white students. And I have here we have in 374 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 2: Michigan that they're celebrating right now that for the fifth 375 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,479 Speaker 2: year in a row, they're putting more money into education 376 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 2: than they ever have, and yet the scores for our 377 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 2: black students are lower than they ever have been. Now, 378 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: I would say that we are seeing some of these 379 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 2: Republican governors come out and saying we want to offer 380 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: choice in education. And so we're seeing Oklahoma and Arizona 381 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 2: and Iowa, Florida, some of these states Arkansas that are 382 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 2: going to a choice model, and we've seen facts show 383 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 2: that that will lift up our minority communities. Do you 384 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 2: feel strongly that if we were to focus more on 385 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: making sure that our minority communities have higher rates of 386 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 2: proficiency and reading in math, then that would lift up 387 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 2: fathers in those areas because there would be an opportunity. 388 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 2: I mean, really, when you can't read, your opportunity is 389 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 2: incredibly limited. 390 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: I agree with that. 391 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 3: I think that there are a lot of things to 392 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 3: unpack in the education system and that kind of goes 393 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 3: back to the home as well. But yes, if you 394 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 3: can't read, your opportunities are incredibly limited. But we have 395 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 3: to figure out which came first, the chicken or the egg. 396 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 3: So we have a lack of investment in black communities 397 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 3: and in black education, then we increase the amount of 398 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 3: money and we add teachers, But then we add teachers 399 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 3: to a system where learning is not reinforced at home. 400 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 3: So I can have you for seven hours a day, 401 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 3: eight hours a day, eighteen thousand hours between kindergarten and 402 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 3: twelfth grade. But at the same time, when you go home, 403 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,719 Speaker 3: if your primary very responsibility is to not be a child, 404 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 3: as in my primary responsibility is reading, writing, and arithmetic. 405 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 3: But yet you have to figure out, I'm thirteen, how 406 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 3: do I care for my four year old? My mom 407 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 3: has to work six jobs. I don't have a father 408 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 3: in the home. People don't have the opportunity to be kids. 409 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 3: And so when we work a system, you can invest 410 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 3: as much as you want in school, but if at home, 411 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 3: you don't have the opportunity, whether it's to reinforce or 412 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 3: to allow a child to be a child and do 413 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 3: childlike things, i e. Study and focus and learn and 414 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 3: imagine and play and serve and give. But now they're 415 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 3: trying to have to figure out how to work on 416 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 3: the basis most base level of Maslow's hierarchy of needs, 417 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,479 Speaker 3: food and shelter. Then that's where the problem lies. And 418 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 3: so I think that has to do with a system, 419 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 3: which an education is something that is should not be 420 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 3: an ad on, It should be a basic But we 421 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 3: have not solved the problem in black communities where we're 422 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 3: dealing with the issues of humanity, And so I will 423 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 3: say plainly and publicly that I think Republicans do a 424 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,479 Speaker 3: good job of getting people into this world, but they 425 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 3: do a poor job of taking care of them once 426 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 3: they get here. And we have to figure out how 427 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 3: do we adjust our welfare system to make it a 428 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 3: place where we can have incentives to get off of welfare. 429 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 3: You cannot tell people pick yourself up by your bootstraps 430 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 3: after you've cut off their bootstraps for four hundred years. 431 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 3: Do I believe that our country is everything that we 432 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 3: ought to be. No, but we are certainly not where 433 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 3: we were. So we've made great gains and we must 434 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 3: recognize that and build on that. We cannot allow ourselves 435 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 3: to continue to be victimized as a black community. But 436 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 3: we as Republicans cannot sit and look at the black 437 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 3: community and say. 438 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: Well, systemic racism never. 439 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 3: Existed, or because it did exist, it happened centuries ago 440 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 3: and has no impact on today. 441 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: It has an impact on today, certainly not as much, 442 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: and we are doing as much as we can to 443 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: fix it. 444 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 3: But we certainly can't exist in a place where we 445 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 3: act as if our actions or the actions of people 446 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 3: who have come before us, have not impacted various communities. 447 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 2: I've had some folks say to me that they think 448 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 2: that welfare should be a trampoline and not a net, 449 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: and too oftentimes we allow it to be a net 450 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 2: that holds someone. So what are your experiences that you 451 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 2: think that we could make it more of a trampoline 452 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 2: to get people back into the workforce. And in some 453 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 2: of these communities, I mean, I would say in Michigan especially, 454 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 2: the jobs are not there. There are not facilities there 455 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 2: for people to go into at this time and work, 456 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 2: So that I mean part of the problem is that 457 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 2: I agree. 458 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 3: I think that one thing that we continue to push 459 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 3: in the campaign is that the efficacy of the government 460 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 3: should not be based on a number of people you help, 461 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 3: but by the number of people who stop needing your help. 462 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: And if your goal is to help people, stop relying 463 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: on the government. 464 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 3: Because as we know it, Linking you said the government 465 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 3: should only do for people what the people cannot do 466 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 3: for themselves and know more, and we just have a 467 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 3: reverse philosophy of that, We're going to do as much 468 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 3: as we can for you, because the more we do 469 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 3: for you the more dependent you become on us, and 470 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 3: the more we. 471 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: Can continue to stay in office. 472 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 3: So if you have officeholders who are in place and 473 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 3: you're still in the same economics, socio social situation, then 474 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 3: those people need to leave. 475 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: And that was an argument that we continue to pose 476 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: because if. 477 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 3: People are in the same place and they're rewarded for 478 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,959 Speaker 3: not helping you, why would I do anything different and 479 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 3: your life wouldn't change. And so that's what we wanted 480 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 3: to share. We were going to bring change, We wanted 481 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 3: to bring better, we wanted to bring different. But when 482 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 3: we talk about the trampoline, I think that's a great 483 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 3: a great way to put it. But one way that 484 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 3: we can do that and provide incentives. When you talk 485 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 3: about jobs, well, one of the things that's currently in 486 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 3: place is if you take. 487 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: A job, then your welfare is cut off. 488 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 3: But what if there's a moderation where for six months 489 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 3: you have this opportunity to double dip, or where for 490 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 3: a couple of months we're gonna supplement your income and 491 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 3: it's a year long opportunity, whatever it is, it's a 492 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 3: phased opportunity with a complete end objective in mind. And 493 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 3: when you don't start with why, Like Simon Sinok says, 494 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 3: if you don't start with your why or your end state, 495 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 3: then you have no way of getting there. If you 496 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 3: just say, yes, I want to help people, Well that's 497 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 3: a good philosophy, but what do you want to help 498 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 3: them do? How do you want to help them get there? 499 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 3: And what is the clear plan and will it help 500 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 3: us get to that point? And if we want people 501 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 3: to stay on welfare for forever, then. 502 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: We have a really good model right now. 503 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 2: I think there are folks that would argue on that 504 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 2: point and say, well, what if we ended up because 505 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 2: like from the business standpoint, you know, coming from a 506 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 2: steel foundery myself, I think that we have some folks 507 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: that would have gladly worked for six months, left, gone 508 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 2: back on welfare, then come back. So I guess there 509 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: would have to be some way of protecting against that too, 510 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 2: because from when I talked to folks here in the 511 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 2: state of Michigan who own factories coming from the manufacturing world, 512 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 2: I talked to quite a few of them. Their issue 513 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 2: is they can't get people to stay and it is 514 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 2: tough work. I mean, it is different work than going 515 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 2: into an office every day. My dad would be the 516 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 2: first to tell you, I'd rather be using my hands 517 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 2: every day and moving around than I would sitting behind 518 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 2: a desk. How do we get people to have pride 519 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 2: in that and stay in those positions. 520 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,479 Speaker 3: I think that's a great question, and I would answer 521 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 3: that with kind of the thought process of this. There's 522 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 3: one group so far that has been incredibly independent on 523 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 3: the government. And we look at the reparations that were 524 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 3: involved with First Nationals Native Americans, and we see how 525 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 3: reservations and money and those kinds of things have impacted 526 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 3: their communities. 527 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: We see how the rise in alcoholism exists. We see 528 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: how the. 529 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 3: Social depression has continued to rise in numbers. We see 530 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 3: how sexual assaults have continued to rise in number, and 531 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 3: people continue to get all of the help, all of 532 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 3: the money, all of this for all of the opportunity 533 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 3: to continue to make money on casinos on. 534 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: This native land. 535 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 3: And that's what reparations provided into the DNA of the 536 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 3: African American community. 537 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: Is starting to seep. 538 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 3: This dependency, this codependency on the government, and then there's 539 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 3: a demand for reparations and a demand for more, and 540 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 3: a demand for the government to provide more and more 541 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 3: and more. 542 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: And as the system. 543 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 3: Continues, we can see how that over dependency is going 544 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 3: to cause great destruction. 545 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: And so when you continue to give people. 546 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 3: Something for nothing, why would I want to do anything different? 547 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 3: And so how do you invoke that self pride? Well, 548 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 3: again it starts in the home. But then also you 549 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 3: have to, I believe fully in the principle of c 550 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 3: me be me, and you have to set positive examples 551 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 3: of people who are doing something. And is you know 552 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 3: we have Congressman Frank Ervan who has access to Kakim Jeffries, 553 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 3: who has access to excuse me, Representative Kakim Jeffer want 554 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 3: to put respect on their name. But other representatives who 555 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 3: have the opportunity to come and spend time in our district, 556 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 3: and where are they? 557 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,479 Speaker 1: Why is he not bringing them in? 558 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 3: Why are there not continued programs where they can see 559 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 3: people of color lifted up doing things. And if you 560 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 3: want people to not be oppressed, if you want them 561 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 3: to grow, if you want them to serve, why are 562 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 3: there not. 563 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: More opportunities for people who exist in front of them. 564 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 2: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 565 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 2: a Tutor Dixon podcast. You're sort of making me think 566 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 2: about interestingly, maybe this is even outside of government, we 567 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 2: see people putting together committees, and I always think that 568 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 2: committees are an excuse to not get something done. But 569 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 2: as I traveled around the state of Michigan, I mean 570 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 2: in some cases, but as I traveled around the state 571 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 2: of Michigan, there were so many businesses that said, we 572 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 2: had to get really creative to get people here. So 573 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 2: we put a nursery on site so that the kids, 574 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 2: so that the moms could come in and make sure 575 00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 2: that their kids were safe all day and they could 576 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 2: go in and see them during the day. And I 577 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 2: mean these are things that I know some businesses would say, oh, 578 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 2: we don't think we need to do that, but there 579 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 2: is you know, the landscape of two parent homes, it's changing. 580 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 2: People really have to have two parents working in the home, 581 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 2: and so oftentimes you don't have that luxury of having 582 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 2: one parent at home and oftentimes you're a single parent. 583 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 2: And so looking at that, don't you think there is 584 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 2: an opportunity to take those businesses that have done such 585 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 2: a great job with benefits and look at businesses that 586 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 2: haven't had turnover. I mean, because we have plenty in Michigan, 587 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 2: they're like, we just don't have any turnover, and they 588 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 2: kind of shrug their shoulders, like, I guess they just 589 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 2: like working here. No, you've done some really impressive things 590 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 2: to have no turnover. So maybe this is an outside 591 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 2: of government issues campaign also to say, hey, you're complaining 592 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 2: that you don't have people working in your businesses, this 593 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 2: is what some of your competition is doing. 594 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: That makes good sense. I think there are there's a 595 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: clear solution. 596 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 3: There are many solutions I think to the problems of 597 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 3: people not wanting to work, and businesses can do a 598 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 3: lot to be engaged in that. 599 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: But one thing I think of is like. 600 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 3: Basic needs, safety, shelter, food, And when we look at 601 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 3: places like Gary and we think about the safety issues 602 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 3: that exist. It's a great place with great people, but 603 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 3: we're across the border from Chicago. 604 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: There's crime that flows over. 605 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 3: And so when you think about the death toll, which 606 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 3: was surpassed by July of last year. July of last year, 607 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two, we surpassed the entire death. 608 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: Toll of twenty twenty one. 609 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 3: And so when you go to that place as a business, 610 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 3: if you're like, I'm going to get robbed or my 611 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 3: employees are going to get killed or whatever it is. 612 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: You know, those are. 613 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 3: The things that make people not interested in coming. And 614 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 3: so how do we protect our and secure our police force. 615 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 3: How do we make sure that people want to be 616 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 3: there before businesses will even come, before nurseries will come 617 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 3: into those businesses. And when we look at Indiana, it's 618 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 3: the crossroads of America. We have rail access there unprecedented. 619 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 3: We have four major highways that come through Indiana. We 620 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 3: have Lake Michigan, so we have water access. We have 621 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 3: the Chicago Gary Airport, we have Midway, we have O'Hare 622 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 3: and we have all four major transit options there. 623 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: But why are we not driving people there? And it 624 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: becomes with the basics. 625 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 3: So and then we also have talent that once talent arises, 626 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 3: if you get. 627 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: Those people that come through school. 628 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 3: And they're motivated and encouraged and say I want to 629 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 3: go somewhere, they leave and they're hesitant to come back. 630 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 3: And so I don't know that it's a solution that 631 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 3: that businesses can solve. 632 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: It is a matter of thinking through. 633 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 3: Like you said, your dad taught you have pride in 634 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 3: your work, have pride in what you do. Work with 635 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 3: your hands, make something, do something, build something. But the 636 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 3: perpetuation of consistently wanting people to be settled doing nothing 637 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 3: and wanting nothing better or feeling like they don't deserve 638 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 3: anything else is something that the thumb the left does 639 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 3: to keep their thumb on the population of their Democrat constituents. 640 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 2: We've talked about all kinds of things, like making sure 641 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 2: that there's access to trade schools, that that is something 642 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 2: that students can do during high school, that that is 643 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 2: paid for, that there is the knowledge that you can 644 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 2: make a strong living not going to a university if 645 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 2: that's not for you. Also, just like you're talking about security, 646 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 2: the idea that you are nervous to go to the 647 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,239 Speaker 2: pharmacy down the road because you don't know if you're 648 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 2: going to get robbed, and this is something that on 649 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 2: the Democrat side they just don't like to talk about it. 650 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 2: I think it's a strong point for Republicans to say, Look, 651 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 2: one of the fundamentals of government is to provide law 652 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 2: and order. The fact that we shy away from law 653 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 2: and order, how did we get to this point? And 654 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 2: I just to be honest, I've really enjoyed talking to 655 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 2: you today. I know we got kind of off of 656 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,040 Speaker 2: the subjects that we thought we would talk about. But 657 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 2: I think you bring a unique perspective because a lot 658 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 2: of conservatives don't think about things from the standpoint of 659 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 2: what it's like to actually live this, what it's like 660 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 2: to be a person in a district like yours, because 661 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 2: a lot of conservatives have never experienced this. So it's 662 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 2: really easy to stay in your own little part of 663 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,959 Speaker 2: the world, your own little bubble, and say, well, this 664 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 2: should be this way and this should be that way. 665 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 2: But I think that's what the benefit is of talking 666 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 2: to people from all different areas and having folks like 667 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 2: you running for office and saying there is a better way. 668 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 2: You guys just don't live it. 669 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 3: Well. I appreciate and respect that, and I feel like 670 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 3: there's you know, some people from different communities have accused 671 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 3: me of whether it's whitewashing or being an uncle Tom, 672 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 3: or or just you know, delving into a one party system, 673 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 3: one person system that just focuses solely on single point 674 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 3: leadership without critical thought and embedded in racism. 675 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: And I've heard all of those things, and I've had. 676 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 3: Clear discussions with people who think differently from me, and 677 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 3: they've caused me to challenge some views and some thoughts 678 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 3: and caused me to recognize that, yes, I grew up 679 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 3: in a two parent household. My parents have been married 680 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 3: fifty three years. I'm a rarity. My parents were directly 681 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 3: invested in my education, and they firmly believed that if 682 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 3: I didn't get it in school, it wasn't the teacher's fault. 683 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 3: It was their responsibility to make sure that I learned it. 684 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 3: And they said, we don't have college funds for you. 685 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 3: We were going to make you so well rounded that 686 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 3: somebody else pays for your college. 687 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: And that's exactly what they did. So they gave me 688 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: opportunities and said, sure you can go to Sermer School, 689 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: Sure you can go to this camp, Sure you can 690 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: learn how to code, Sure you can do these things. 691 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: And they always said yes to educational opportunities. 692 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 3: They made it fun and enjoyable, but that was a 693 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 3: function of them having the bandwidth to be able to 694 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 3: do it, and not. 695 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: Everybody has those privileges. 696 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 3: So I'm grateful for the opportunity to bring a different perspective. 697 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 3: But at the same time, given more time, I think 698 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 3: we could have definitely had an impact. But I came 699 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 3: from nowhere knowing just my local community to running across 700 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 3: a district of seven hundred thousand people. 701 00:33:58,920 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: You obviously were. 702 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 2: Running in miss Do you run again? 703 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: So full transparency. 704 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 3: I feel like politics is something for the future for sure. 705 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 3: I don't necessarily know where, but I do anticipate striving 706 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 3: to be on a ballot in the twenty twenty four cycle. 707 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 2: Oh wow, Okay, well that's very exciting, I think. I mean, 708 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 2: right now, I just feel like there's so much more 709 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 2: I could talk to you about, because I think that 710 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 2: the messaging that we're seeing from the left. Yesterday I 711 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 2: saw something posted from Planned Parenthood saying that essentially like 712 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 2: promisecurity is cool, you should be doing this. And I 713 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 2: just think these messages that are going into all of 714 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 2: our young people, and it affects young people in different 715 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 2: areas differently, but it's always a negative effect. And I 716 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 2: just I've really enjoyed talking to you and I want 717 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 2: to have you back, because I we didn't even get 718 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 2: into national security and how national security impacts districts like yours, 719 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 2: because just having an open border is a problem for 720 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 2: districts like yours. So there's so much more to talk about. 721 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 2: I hope you'll come back. Jennifer Ruth Green She is 722 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 2: a senior advisor to Polaris National Security, former Republican congressional 723 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 2: nominee and possibly a future one we'll see, but also 724 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: current lieutenant colonel in the Indiana Air National Guard. Thank 725 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 2: you so much for being on today. 726 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 3: Thanks, it's an honor. Look forward to talking again to 727 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 3: take care. 728 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be great. I mean, honestly, I feel 729 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 2: like I just want to keep going, but I know 730 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 2: that we don't want to take too much of your time, 731 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 2: so we'll have you back. Thank you so much, and 732 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 2: thank you all for joining us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 733 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,240 Speaker 2: For this episode and others, go to Tutor disonpodcast dot com. 734 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 2: You can subscribe right there, or check out the iHeartRadio app, 735 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts to make 736 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 2: sure you join us next time on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 737 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 2: Have a great day.