1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Let's end our first episode of the off save it. 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: I drooled on my silk non stop. He's a doll. 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: I love my sink. Pick your mussy at the shop. 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: If I say everything wrong, I'm clearing me. And it 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 1: was the best day of my life. Welcome to the 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: Slim Show podcast presented by by Star, where we're not 7 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: afraid to mess up, We're not afraid to have a 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: little fun. Come on, and now this episode we'll be 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 1: talking to basically the kindest man alive. Charles Davis was CBS. 10 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: He always takes the time to give us insights around 11 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: the NFL combine, in the draft, and now he's in 12 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,959 Speaker 1: the booth and will be the analyst this Sunday when 13 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: the Steelers take on the Jaguars. So, Charles, last time 14 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: we spoke and saw each other in person, which is 15 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: such a strange concept. Now was very hit the Scotting 16 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: scouting combine. You're talking all about who the Jags are 17 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: taken at nine and twenty and had no idea what 18 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: was coming of this season. So how has it been 19 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: treating you and how much has football changed for you 20 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: right now? You know, I would say we're all essentially 21 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: in the same boat right, Um, depending on what your 22 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: job is, what your what your casks are. If you're 23 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: a player and a coach, it changed the way that 24 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: you prepare for the season, whether it's your workouts as 25 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: a player and you're you know, O, T A s 26 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: and mini camps went away, and as a coach not 27 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: being able to see the people that you drafted, signed 28 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: as free agents brought back from the year before, from 29 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: the end of last season until training camp in July. 30 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: So that changed a lot of that. And of course 31 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: the offseason preparation with zoom for us as people who 32 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: cover the game, probably the same thing. We lost contact 33 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: as well, so were there not they didn't get contact 34 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: all that time, they re established contact, but essentially for us, 35 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: our contact is still this way. So you know, I'm 36 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: sure for you and and the rest of the team 37 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: there with the Jacksonville Jaguars meeting the new rookies right, 38 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: the free agent signings, the people who have been brought 39 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: in right, all of that, I don't know if you've 40 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: actually met a lot of them in person. In a 41 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: lot of cases the answer is no. And if you did, 42 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: it was socially distanced. They were at a microphone way 43 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: way away, you're not getting the same normal interactions that 44 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: you would from before. But we're all in the same boat. 45 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: Thirty other thirty one other teams are an exact same spot. 46 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: Everyone in the broadcasting business is in an exact same spot. 47 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: So you know, none of us are complaining. We're actually 48 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: consider ourselves fortunate that we have an NFL season going on, because, 49 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: let's face at Ashland, how many people do we know 50 00:02:55,440 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: that we have family, friends, acquaintances. Because of this pandemic, 51 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: many people we know lost a lot of what they have. 52 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: We're fortunate enough we're in a business that was able 53 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: to continue on. I could not agree more. Very thankful 54 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: there's still football here because I don't know what I 55 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: would be doing every single day. This is it, This 56 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: is all I got. Well, Charles, you are calling the 57 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: game on Sunday, Pittsburgh Steelers and Jaguars and undefeated Pittsburgh 58 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: Steelers Jaguars eight game losing streak. But I catch myself 59 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: because people have asked me what I think about this game, 60 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: and I don't want to sound like a Homer and 61 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: you know, the team reporter. There's just always something about 62 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: this game that is passionate. It always comes down to 63 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: the wire. That Jaguars are always in it. So I 64 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: find myself optimistic this week. Is that crazy? I don't 65 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: think it's crazy for this reason. You know, when you 66 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: go through the season and you see this Jacksonville Jaguars team, 67 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: we've seen one in eight that is more than ready 68 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: for the next season. Right, We've seen those teams in 69 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: the NFL. Right, you you can spot on really a 70 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: mile away, and and if you can't, when you get closer, 71 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: you can smell it. They're like, oh yeah, you can't 72 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: wait for next season. But this is a Jaguars team 73 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: that took Green Bay to the wire last week. I 74 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: think that you know, four games this year they've either 75 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: led or been right there in the fourth quarter. They 76 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 1: have not given up on coach Doug Moron and their staff. 77 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: You know, they have not folded tent. They have not 78 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: you know, said okay, enough of this. And when you 79 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: look at what they've dealt with your second year quarterback, 80 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: he gets hurt. Rookie sixth rounder, he's got to play now, Um, 81 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: you know your your your wide receiver in the second round. 82 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: That I'm crazy about Labisca Chenaltha, you know, blows a 83 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: hand me a couple of games ago. I mean, we 84 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: just go right down the line obviously find that James 85 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: Robinson has just been an incredible revelation for everyone. But 86 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: this team has not given up. It is not quitted 87 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: as fought. And I know that sounds a little pollyannish, 88 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: but when I prepare for a game and I have 89 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: a team that is one in eight as something I'm 90 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: gonna check pretty closely. And don't forget this is a 91 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh team that while they're undefeated last two ball games, 92 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: they've had to come from depths. It's of ten points 93 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: or more to win one of them. You would expect. 94 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: That was at Baltimore, second one at Dallas. None of 95 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: us saw that coming. We thought every time for Pittsburgh 96 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: just boots to Dallas. This was the year, and it wasn't. 97 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: So who knows what's what's going to happen. Who knows 98 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: how it's going to present. So so we're gonna look 99 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: forward to it. And Mike Tomlin, the head coach of Pittsburgh, 100 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: I think you saw his press conference on I guess 101 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: it's Tuesday, where he said, you know something, we approach 102 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: every game we're playing professionals. This is not the biggest. 103 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: It's not a Big ten team versus a MAC team, 104 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: and you know how the teams are like, hey, what 105 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: do we do? You know, we beat some big tens 106 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,239 Speaker 1: along the way, But we understood his point. His point 107 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,239 Speaker 1: is in the NFL, these are all pros. Man, these guys. 108 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: There's a slipper of difference there. The reason they called 109 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: a seven point league because almost every game is going 110 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: to come down to a touchdown or stuff. That's what 111 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: you deal with. Yeah, it's gonna be exciting and interesting 112 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: because it always is. And I, at least I have 113 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: a hard time at times because you have the Jaguars 114 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: fans that watch all the programs and they get it. 115 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: They want that franchise quarterback and they're fighting with the Jets. 116 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: They want that Trevor Lawrence at number one pick. But 117 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: then when you're in it and you see the efforts 118 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: and the coaching staff not getting up like you just mentioned, 119 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: it's hard to balance because there are two interests. But 120 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: right now, I mean, you've covered the league for so 121 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: long and you get it. When you're in this, you 122 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: want to win. It doesn't matter about next season. But 123 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: you also see the other side of Jaguars stands saying hey, 124 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: don't mess with our draft picks now totally. And we 125 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: go through a right ashland every year when you and 126 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: I are able to talk, and I always look forward 127 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: to that at the combine prior to the draft. There 128 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: is that part of football where there's the excitement of 129 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: okay to the new toys. We get done wrapped right. 130 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: It's our holiday season where the people are gonna get 131 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: us back to where we expect to be. There's still 132 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: remembrance of a f C title game, one bad call 133 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: away from going to the super Bowl that wasn't that 134 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: long ago. But it's amazing how many people are different 135 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: on the team already. It doesn't take long in this league. 136 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: So you can build up fast, you can tear down fast, 137 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: and that's why all of that is part of it. 138 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: But I would just say stay within state. Look at 139 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: Miami and all year long last year. What was the 140 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: talk prior to the season And as the season went on, 141 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: tank for two of the twa gets hurt. The Dolphins 142 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: kept fighting under Brian Floor, as they kept scratching and clawing, 143 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: they won some games and their fans were like, oh no, no, 144 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: don't win these games. And a five, and everybody's like, 145 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: I could get our guy, and Joe Burrow emerged, and 146 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: you can't have a better matchup of an Ohio kid 147 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: going to an Ohio based team. It's Sinnati. So he 148 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: goes at one. Now you get a chance to get 149 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: the guy you thought you would get in the first place, 150 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: but he got hurt. Do we take him? Do we 151 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: not do? What do we do? The Miami Dolphins held 152 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: in there and at five they still got their guy. 153 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: I'm not saying the same thing happens about Trevor Lawrence. 154 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, but I do think there's something 155 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: too fighting scratching klawin trying to win as many games 156 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: as possible and build for the future, and you end 157 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: up somehow getting maybe not the person you thought you 158 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: would get, but maybe you get the right person who 159 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: knows you met in the middle there and hey, it 160 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: seems to be working out for the Dolphins. So actually, 161 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: you remember when they took him at five. It wasn't 162 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: If it had been a year before, it would have 163 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: been unanimous acclaim right as an injury. The severity of it. 164 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: We hadn't seen him in the off season. A lot 165 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: of people are thinking it was a gamble and they 166 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: maybe should have taken Justin Herbert right at five. Herbert 167 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: goes six to the Chargers. This is one of those 168 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: unusual years, actually, when we got three quarterbacks taken in 169 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: the first round in the top six picks, and all 170 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: three look like they're gonna pan out and be ten 171 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: year starters in the league. And that rarely happens when 172 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: you're picking quarterbacks, right, And that kind of because we, 173 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: of course are already looking ahead to next year, it 174 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: kind of seems like that's now the trend with college 175 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: football is even next year, you have all of these 176 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: quarterbacks being talked about, and of course Trevor Lawrence is 177 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: at the top of that. But I'm sure come scouting Colmbine, 178 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: we'll be there and we're gonna talk to you about 179 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: names that we don't even know right now. That is 180 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: so true, right, and they're already starting to emerge, even 181 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: in a truncated college season, Right, do they play this week? 182 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: Don't they They're all three weeks now they come back 183 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: and play with But we're seeing names emerged. So Trevor Lawrence, 184 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: of course, right, the kid at Ohio State is obviously 185 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: going to be a major topic of discussion in justin fields. 186 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: Kyle Trash right here in state in Florida. Don't tell 187 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: me he's not getting on the radar, and people are going, whoa, whoa, whoa, 188 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: we need to take this kid. This kid's throwing four 189 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: touchdowns in his sleep before he rolls out of bed 190 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: every game. Um. And so you know Mac Jones at Alabama, 191 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: whoever Scott, he's got to be play tool and what's 192 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: he gonna do? And now we're talking about being a 193 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy candidate, So you're right about that. By the 194 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: time we get to the combine, those names trade lands 195 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: at North Dakota State, plenty of others. So whether you 196 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: have the first pick, the second pick, the fifth pick, whatever, 197 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: I think there will be quarterbacks available that people would 198 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: would have in heavy consideration. I love it. And we 199 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: gotta stick with quarterbacks here because that is all anyone 200 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: wants to talk about. Here. In Jacksonville, you have Jake 201 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: Luton right now going into his third start. Gardner Minshew 202 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: unfortunately fractured in his thumb. Do you feel like you 203 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: have enough sample size of Gardner Minshew? Because there are 204 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: some Jaguars fans that do or die want him back 205 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: in the game no matter what. But do you feel 206 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: like you know what he is? I feel like I 207 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: do because I watched him through his time in college. 208 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: You know, I feel like that part helps me. But 209 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: in terms of NFL play, you never really haven't quote 210 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: unquote enough sample size. But we've seen what he can do. 211 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: Do you decide to build with him and go That's 212 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: a big question for Dave called Well in the front 213 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: office and everyone else that goes along. Jake Lewton of course, 214 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: getting him in the sixth round again, you know, just 215 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: like Minshew, another guy that looked like a complete project, 216 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: the whole deal. Now he's gonna come in and play. 217 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: He won't get enough sample size if indeed they go 218 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: back to Minshew. Let's say next week, let's say Menshow 219 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: is able to play. We don't know yet right, um, 220 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: we won't have enough sample size, but they're getting a 221 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: good view of him. That sort of a deal. I'll 222 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: be honest, Ashland, I don't think either one of them 223 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 1: at this stage, no matter how the rest of the 224 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,599 Speaker 1: season plays, is gonna lock it down enough that Jacksonville 225 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 1: won't be evaluating quarterbacks. They have to. They've got to 226 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: do due diligence and evaluate, see where they are in 227 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: the draft, go through all of them and make a 228 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: firm decision. Look, let's be honest about it. Did any 229 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 1: of us know Blake Bortles is gonna get called with 230 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: the third pick that year? From Dave called? Well? Boy? 231 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: Did he keep that under wraps right? People can say 232 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: whatever they want. A f C championship game with Blake Bortles, 233 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 1: you know, you know, however you want to cut it, 234 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: it didn't work out in the long run. Took the 235 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: guy at three, so quarterbacks will be in consideration. But 236 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: you know, Minshoe, there's something about him there just is 237 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: you can't take your eyes off of him, and a 238 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: lot of times he plays to that level. Lewton's first 239 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: start was a revelation for everyone. And then last week 240 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: in tough weather conditions against a good team, not a 241 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 1: surprising numbers, weren't that great? Happens you know, listen, No, 242 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,599 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see how he progresses and see, I 243 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: mean this is this is a top of a match 244 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: up as it is, there's gonna be a big one 245 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: for him because he's gonna see I would imagine Pittsburgh, 246 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: I guess at this stage of the season, Jacksonville won't 247 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: wear white at home. I'm guessing, so we will see 248 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: white jerseys with gold pants sailing at him from the 249 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: first snapp on Sunday, because that Blitzberg thing is real. 250 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: You know, with sixty six, sixty seven straight games with 251 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: a sack, they're chasing down the record, which is sixty 252 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: nine I believe by Tampa Bay. If they don't put 253 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: people on the deck, if they're gonna to get two 254 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: sacks in a game, they feel like they did nothing. 255 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: And so far this season, I think it was a Denver. 256 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: I think they pressured him nineteen times, knocked them down 257 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: eleven times. Seven sacks. That's Pittsburgh. Oh, big game for 258 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: the offensive line, to say the least. All right, let's 259 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about you. I, of course, being 260 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: in broadcast, I like geek out about this stuff and 261 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to talk to you about this. But 262 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 1: you're relatively new to the CBS crew with Evan Washburn 263 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: and I am Eagles, So that camaraderie, I mean that 264 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: is so important on a broadcast and I enjoy watching 265 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: you guys so much because you can just tell you 266 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: guys are so close, thank you, And we've worked at that. 267 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: You know, Ian and Ian and Evan have been together 268 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: for a long time, and you know, Dan Fouts had 269 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: been part of their team. And look, you talk about 270 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: a Hall of fame quarterback, Hall of fame broadcasters. So 271 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: when I joined the team, my father said to me, 272 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: you know, that's been a good team for a long time. 273 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: So if anything goes, hey, why are that means you're 274 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: the cause? Because you're the only thing is different. So God, 275 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: God bless your what, God bless our parents. Right, they 276 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: keep us in in the right spot. But well, we 277 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: did this summer because you know, during the spring and 278 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: summer because of the pandemic, we couldn't see each other, 279 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: we couldn't get together. So we did exactly what you 280 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: and I are doing. We went to zoom you know, 281 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: really sessions every week where we just get to know 282 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: each other. And I would tell you that it was 283 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: non football nine. How we were going to broadcast nine. Hey, 284 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: this is what we do when we do a game. 285 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: We're just getting to know each other, you know, and 286 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: you know each other could know each other's families, likes, dislikes, 287 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: interest personalities, all of that. Then we edited in our 288 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: producer and director, and we started doing that with them. 289 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: But once a week minutes we all be on a 290 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: zoom together and just hang out. And we thought that 291 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: was a good way to start to try and build 292 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: the chemistry and try to get to know each other. 293 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: We never even actually did a rehearsal game. We never 294 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: even actually did that because we would have to do 295 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: it by zoom, Like, let's get to know each other 296 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: and let's just go in and and go. And Iron 297 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: and Evan and the rest of the crew have just 298 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: been wonderful, very welcoming, very you know, they're very great. 299 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: They're great about guidance and leading me. And I'm just 300 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: trying my best to run as fast as I can 301 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: to catch up to these guys because they're they're there 302 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: top of the food Chaine, you know what I mean. 303 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: For sure, they're two very talented guys. But it seems 304 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: to be working out. So props to you, Thank you. 305 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: I appreciate that so far that as they as they said, 306 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: Evan came to me yet so well, all right, my 307 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: final question for you, I always wonder this because you 308 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: guys live in mock drafts. It seems in the off 309 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: season you and Daniel Jeremiah and all the likes of that, 310 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: and I'm always reading them and it's always interesting to 311 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: see what you pick. So when it is draft night 312 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: and it's not going according to plan, something always shakes up, 313 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: tear everything up and be so frustrated that you spent 314 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: months on this. It's a great question because it depends 315 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: on how you go into it. If you go into 316 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: it with the idea that one through thirty two, all right, 317 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: let's just do the basics with out trades and all 318 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: those stuff, right that it needs to mad for me 319 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: to feel successful, needs to match up that name to 320 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: that team. If you're gonna do that, you might as 321 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: well just go ahead and tear your hair out now, 322 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: because that's just not gonna happen. Right. What you're trying 323 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: to do is to get thirty two names in the 324 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: first round that when it's all said and done and 325 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: I counted up, I got a pretty good number of 326 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: those names in the first round that I identified first 327 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: round picks. You know that these are the guys that 328 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: were going to go, look, we're always gonna get the 329 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: Joshua Garnett that you go, whoa, whoa, where'd that pick? 330 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: Come from right and he goes in the first round 331 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: and what you know, you know, and sometimes it doesn't work, 332 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: like Joshua Garnett, and sometimes like Travis Frederick before he 333 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: retired last year. You probably remember ashe when the Cowboys 334 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: took him in the first roundybody's like, whoa, you can 335 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: get him in the third? What are you doing? Becomes 336 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: an all pro and it's all work for them. Knew 337 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: what they wanted, didn't care what the number, what the 338 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: rest of the draft people said, this is our guy. 339 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: So for the most part, you're gonna have those. But 340 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: what you're trying to do is get that at the 341 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: thirty two guys in the first round that you got 342 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: right and hopefully there are no major surprises that you go, boy, 343 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: I really really missed on that one. I was way 344 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: off because there are guys that I had a first 345 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: round grade on that didn't go. But there was stenuating circumstances. 346 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,719 Speaker 1: Sometimes maybe they were ding their senior year. You know, 347 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: he didn't time quite as fast as people might have thought. 348 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: See Laviska Chanut's one of those. To me, he was 349 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: a first rounder all day long, but he was dinged 350 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: a little bit. As last year so because it was 351 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: a heavy wide receiver year, he got pushed down. But 352 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: I've already seen why. You know, people have thought, oh 353 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: my goodness, this guy. And now when he gets fully 354 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: healthy and they're able to get movement, I think people 355 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: will say, yeah, that was a first round talent. All 356 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: day long for Shure, We're hoping from big things from 357 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: that guy. Well, Charles, thank you so so much. You know, 358 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: ever appreciate you letting me come on your show. I 359 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: really appreciate. It's always fun to talk with you and 360 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: pick your brain about what's going on with the team 361 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: and the teams around the league. And I appreciate your 362 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: insight and your expertise. So thank you so much, and 363 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: we'll make sure we keep that going. You know you're 364 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: gonna get that call from me going help me. I 365 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: need to help. Let's go on. Be honored. I would 366 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: be honored for that call. I'll always answered. We'll have 367 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: a great game on Sunday. All right, Thank you, Ash, 368 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: I appreciate it, Appreciate you, Charles Davis. I told you 369 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: guys he was a gem. We'll have marsh Lynn Show 370 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: coming at you in the next few weeks. But always, 371 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: I'm thankful for Joe Fortunato, our producer, for making this 372 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: the best podcast ever. See you next time.