WEBVTT - Ep. 23: Bear Grease [Render] - Whoopins, Newcomb Bear Camp, and Warner Glenn

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<v Speaker 1>tell me, Dan, why you got whoopings in kindergarten? Swats whoopings.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter. I don't know if I want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it about so Ricky and I know, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they asked me to sit Indian style, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know what that was, and so everybody immediately sat down.

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<v Speaker 1>Socially awkward situation. You're standing there. I'm an idiot, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, and the teachers like you sit in in style,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just couldn't go to the office. And then

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<v Speaker 1>it was swats and I never looked. Really that was

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<v Speaker 1>the first day, first day, first day of preschool. I

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<v Speaker 1>got a wepened the first day of seventh grade. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>which what happened in seventh grade? I got blasted on

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<v Speaker 1>the first day of school, first first day school. It's

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<v Speaker 1>set the president for not only that year, rest of

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<v Speaker 1>your life. Pretty well. And why did you get well, man,

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<v Speaker 1>we went from desk. You know, you always had a

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<v Speaker 1>desk to sit in, but in the size class they

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<v Speaker 1>had a table there, so it was two folks to

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<v Speaker 1>the table, and my buddy Greg Hayes was sitting with you.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a mistake. You were not lying because he

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<v Speaker 1>whispered I've ever tried in my life. I trust him

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<v Speaker 1>with my life. But what happened was what it was

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<v Speaker 1>was we were talking and the teacher, well, the teacher

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<v Speaker 1>asked me, I can't remember now which one of us

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<v Speaker 1>was talking that you can't quite recall. I assume it

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<v Speaker 1>was Greg. Anyway, the teacher said, are y'all talking? And

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<v Speaker 1>I mean immediately you would think he's saying, you know, stop, no, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>He's like you told me alt, I go stead in

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<v Speaker 1>the hall. I thought, wow, this is harsh. I'm fling

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<v Speaker 1>to get set outside. Well I go outside, I'm standing

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<v Speaker 1>on the wall. Well, this ain't too bad. And then

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<v Speaker 1>he walks out with the paddle. This is got serious.

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<v Speaker 1>First day, first day, he said, three days or three leaks.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, give me three legs, and but three days

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<v Speaker 1>or what of going home? Yeah, that's that's exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>they I don't know what they did down where you're from,

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<v Speaker 1>the same here. Yeah, that's the kind of stuff they

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<v Speaker 1>did in Hatfield too, So I never I never got

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<v Speaker 1>whoopings at school. I was sent to the principal's office

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<v Speaker 1>one time for defending my friend Donald Myers. Donald somebody

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<v Speaker 1>was jumping on Donald Myers and I saw it from

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<v Speaker 1>a long ways away and it made me mad, and

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<v Speaker 1>I went over. He was off with a guy and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of wrestled with him. And the teacher saw this

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<v Speaker 1>and she was like, go to the office, and so

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<v Speaker 1>we went and stood by the office and I thought

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<v Speaker 1>my life was over. The bell rang and the principal

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<v Speaker 1>came out and was like, y'all go to class, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I just took off. You know what. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I did though, I went and told Gary nucom

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<v Speaker 1>something I want you to know. I was sent to

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<v Speaker 1>the principal's office today. Number one. If that boy from

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<v Speaker 1>kindergarten says, I cust this was first grade, so this

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<v Speaker 1>was the next year. Get hey, welcome to the Burger srender.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no conscience. Man, I'm very very excited about today.

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<v Speaker 1>We have some one very special guest. Everybody else here

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<v Speaker 1>has has been here multiple times. We're gonna we're gonna start.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go counterclockwise to my right, Brent Reeves, Man,

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<v Speaker 1>good to see you just get back from bear camp. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna talk about that, talk about some bear camp

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<v Speaker 1>here in a little bit. Isaac Neil and I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like an old You're like an old hat. Now, Bender,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm working on just I'm going to move into

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<v Speaker 1>your house if you got some spare rooms now, so

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<v Speaker 1>pack defel next time. And yep, yep so so he

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<v Speaker 1>was a bear camp too, Dan awesome to We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>save our mystery guests to the end, skipping over the

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<v Speaker 1>mystery guest, Misty newcom Welcome Misty. I also was that

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<v Speaker 1>bearcas Yes, I didn't get a bearca. Hey, listen, if

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<v Speaker 1>I had more places to bear hunt, I would invite

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<v Speaker 1>all of you. You know, I take it personally. And

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<v Speaker 1>Misty's right. Daniel Rupe, Dr Dan Rupe, good to see

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<v Speaker 1>you man happy here, Brent, do you mind giving us

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<v Speaker 1>a audio tour of Daniel's attire. He's looking pretty sharp.

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel's hair is parted in the middle. It's looked very

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<v Speaker 1>erroal aero dynamic. His beard is full and I see

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<v Speaker 1>no gray hair in there that from this. Oh a

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<v Speaker 1>little patch, I see a little patch. But he's dressed

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<v Speaker 1>in a blue plaid shirt with tie. He's got a

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<v Speaker 1>ti tech. Is that a half windsor or a full windsor?

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<v Speaker 1>That is uh, you want to go ahead? This is

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<v Speaker 1>that's a glimpsing this right, there is a glimpse in

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<v Speaker 1>the misty's laugh right here, miss telling the story. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>the story. Yeah, he's also got on blue jeans, some

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of cowboy boots, and a belt buckled the

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<v Speaker 1>size of a small child, some about old fort worth,

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<v Speaker 1>old days, old fort days buckles from nineteen seventy nine.

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<v Speaker 1>No way, that's the year that my birth first. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all the older. I've always been over taller and

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<v Speaker 1>better looking. Oh man, wow, I was October eighteen. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>knows that. Dang it. I don't know how you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>You just gave taller and better looking. I am slightly older.

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<v Speaker 1>We voted, you know. I just want to plot Dan

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<v Speaker 1>that the hairline is special. It's kind of feathered. And

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<v Speaker 1>my kids know Uncle Dan best for being the guy

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<v Speaker 1>who went a decade without brushing your hair. I still

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<v Speaker 1>don't brush my hair. It just falls down now it does.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't for a long time. It went straight up

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time. It was in my youth. That

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<v Speaker 1>is extra Okay, now it's it's calmed down. Hey, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>our mystery guest sitting directly in front of me is

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<v Speaker 1>my uncle Mike Schultz. Mike is an honor to have

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<v Speaker 1>you here. I got it. I got to say hi

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<v Speaker 1>to everybody, Mike every so, so I've got to give

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<v Speaker 1>an introduction to Mike Schultz. Mike went with me. Number one.

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<v Speaker 1>He's here because he went with me to Arizona three

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<v Speaker 1>or four weeks ago, whenever it was when we went

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<v Speaker 1>to meet Warner Glenn. So that's what we're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>about on this podcast. Is is Warner Glenn. So Mike

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<v Speaker 1>went down there with me, and Mike Schultz was the

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<v Speaker 1>one who had to have been close to twenty years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean when you first told me about your friend

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Dussard, who had had photographed and had these friends

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<v Speaker 1>who were the Glens and they were mountain lion hunters

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<v Speaker 1>and his daughter hunted with him, and they had mules

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<v Speaker 1>and they were You told me about them years and

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<v Speaker 1>years ago and showed me photos of him, and I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I just always thought, Wow, that's so cool, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and then just this year it kind of all came

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<v Speaker 1>together and you with me down there, and Mike is

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<v Speaker 1>a to say, Mike, as a photographer anymore, it's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>easy to be a photographer like I have occasionally said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a photographer, you know, because I have a nice

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<v Speaker 1>camera and take photos and stuff. Mike Schultz has aside

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<v Speaker 1>from his professional career, which he was a dentist, so

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<v Speaker 1>he has a doctor as well. We can go him

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Schultz. He did. He's dedicated his life to photography

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<v Speaker 1>to a pretty big portion of his world. Mike tell

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<v Speaker 1>us just a little bit about the type of photography

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<v Speaker 1>you've focused on. Well, for the beginning of my career,

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<v Speaker 1>it was pretty much landscape oriented, and I did that

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<v Speaker 1>with large box cameras with big film holders and that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing. I did that for probably twenty five years,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I started working professionally, mostly because I had

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<v Speaker 1>an industry in interest in large industry. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>started using smaller cameras and getting more interested in industry

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<v Speaker 1>and what goes on in large industry like steel mills

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<v Speaker 1>or foundries and that type of thing. And that's been

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<v Speaker 1>the pretty much the focus of my work, uh since then,

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<v Speaker 1>although I still do some landscape work as well, but

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<v Speaker 1>most of it is is more centered around industry and

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<v Speaker 1>the workers and the work that they do. Mike has

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<v Speaker 1>traveled around the world. He got a Googgenheim. Right, do

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<v Speaker 1>you know what that conditions are? You? Okay, you to

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<v Speaker 1>put some barrel on Isaac. We're gonna say. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>just interpret this for us Hillbillies. Guggenheim is like a

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<v Speaker 1>massive honor and award in a in a how about

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<v Speaker 1>you tell us what it is, Mike, Well, Guggenheim Fellowship

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<v Speaker 1>is an award given through a competition that's held every

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<v Speaker 1>year and throughout North America. It was started in the

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<v Speaker 1>mid nineteen twenties, I believe by a senator by the

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<v Speaker 1>name of Guggenheim who had a son who died at

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<v Speaker 1>age fourteen, and in order to honor their son, they

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<v Speaker 1>started this foundation. Now the name Guggenheim is Austin associated

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<v Speaker 1>with the Guggenheim Museum in New York. Uh, same family,

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<v Speaker 1>But the Guggenheim Fellowship is not is not really the

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<v Speaker 1>Guggenheim Museum. It's it's a different branch of the family

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<v Speaker 1>that started this. And they give awards in science, arts, performance, literature, composition,

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<v Speaker 1>you name it. Uh, and that they give that all

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<v Speaker 1>those awards everywhere. Give any kind of award to me

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<v Speaker 1>and Brent, Yeah, I think it's I think there's such

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<v Speaker 1>a uniqueness there. I think there's a very good like

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<v Speaker 1>a category you know. I don't know, but you got

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<v Speaker 1>this skuganut and which was basically they sponsored a an

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<v Speaker 1>initiative that you did and you made your books, made

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<v Speaker 1>a book. So you traveled the world and went to foundries,

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<v Speaker 1>which I would have known what a foundry was. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you know what a foundry is? Looking at everybody, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a doctor. Everybody in here, but the doctor or something.

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<v Speaker 1>You knew it, and he didn't. I could tell by

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<v Speaker 1>his eyes. No, Mike, Mike has traveled the world going

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<v Speaker 1>to foundries, which is where they basically cast huge molten,

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<v Speaker 1>cast steele for huge parts and so like he has.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a it's like going into the underworld. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>visually you just can't comprehend the images. Have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>been to a found I happen to own a book

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<v Speaker 1>about this question. You've ever been to? Okay, Mike, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>back to Mike. Well, yeah, what's the name of the book.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called Foundry Work. And there were actually two books done.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a volume one in a volume two. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're done, and they're amazing. I mean they people buy

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<v Speaker 1>those books, Mike, Yeah, they can get them off my website.

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<v Speaker 1>That's photography dot com. Hey, you can go to my

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<v Speaker 1>instagram and see the couple of the photos that are

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<v Speaker 1>on my instagram Mike took, you know, and they were

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<v Speaker 1>just they weren't like artistic photos necessarily, they were just

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<v Speaker 1>me and j and I put one of me and

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<v Speaker 1>Warner up. Did you say how to get to your

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<v Speaker 1>website Michael Schut's photography dot com. I want to get

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<v Speaker 1>that book, you guys know, I like I like good introductions.

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<v Speaker 1>We spend like thirty minutes doing introductions. I got to

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<v Speaker 1>say this about Mike because I don't know when Micha

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<v Speaker 1>will be back on the render um judging about what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on already. And if I let's just say I

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<v Speaker 1>had five fingers on one hand, hypothetically, hypothetically, Mike Schultz

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<v Speaker 1>would be top five most influential the hand Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you could have just said top five you just

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<v Speaker 1>started with. It is a podcast. No one can see

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<v Speaker 1>what you're I'm just holding up my hand for drama. Okay, listen, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the pinky is Dan Rude, the smallest feer. Know. I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta know Mike, and we have I view. Mike is

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<v Speaker 1>like He's my uncle, and so I look up to him.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would say our relationship is not as much

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<v Speaker 1>like uncle nephew. It's more like friends. That's the way

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<v Speaker 1>I view it. And we've run around together pretty a

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<v Speaker 1>lot in the last twenty years. Man, I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to tell us Isaac earlier today. By nature there I

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<v Speaker 1>would be unorganized mismanaged much more than Okay, Mike. The

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<v Speaker 1>precision inside of Mike Schultz life has dramatically altered who

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<v Speaker 1>I am today. If you dramatically altered thank you. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>total chaos would have been unleased on the world years ago. Joking,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not three years ago. Listen to what I'm telling you.

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<v Speaker 1>Three years ago, we rolled up in here early one morning.

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<v Speaker 1>We were getting on a flight three hours later going

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<v Speaker 1>to Saskatchewan. Clay says, man, I got to pack. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been packed for three weeks and I'm unorganized. But he's

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<v Speaker 1>that morning, Man, I gotta get my stuff together, Dude,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd been busy, Brent, for real, Mike, this is just

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<v Speaker 1>Mike is also a master woodworker. He makes some of

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<v Speaker 1>the finest furniture you've ever seen. Anything Mike does, he

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<v Speaker 1>puts precision into it. And that has impacted me. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's important that you know the people that

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<v Speaker 1>you're around. I've learned to be impactable, to see character

0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:29.720
<v Speaker 1>traits inside of people, recognize your own deficiency and be like,

0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:31.440
<v Speaker 1>I want to be more like that, and I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're gonna get back to Mike when we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about meat and Morner Glenn. I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>bear Camp though. So we just last week we had

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of Newcomb family and friends bear Camp. Almost

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<v Speaker 1>all the friends, almost all the friends we I wish

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<v Speaker 1>Bear Newcomb could be here, he could tell his story,

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<v Speaker 1>but tell him, give us a give us an overview

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<v Speaker 1>brand of the of our weekend. Well, I mean we

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<v Speaker 1>get there on the day before it opens up. My

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<v Speaker 1>well as you y'all got there a couple of days early.

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<v Speaker 1>I got there on Friday. Well, James and I go around.

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<v Speaker 1>We checked baits. You guys are checking baits James Lawrence.

0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:09.399
<v Speaker 1>James Lawrence, who was on episode number two of the

0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Bargars podcast, did a bio on him. Not a daylight

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<v Speaker 1>picture anywhere out of the four baits that James and

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<v Speaker 1>I were looking at. So it was just a coin

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<v Speaker 1>flip where we're gonna go, and jameson's where you want

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<v Speaker 1>to go, And I'm like, I told him the spot

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted. I told Clay the same thing, said, I

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, it's an old stand by spot. River

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<v Speaker 1>killed her first bear there, Shepherd killed Shephard killed his

0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:34.359
<v Speaker 1>first bear there. I know, James just killed three bears there.

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<v Speaker 1>But but all of that, you know, had shooter. Bears

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<v Speaker 1>are gone. It's not during just not during the day.

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<v Speaker 1>So me and Isaac rolling there. So okay, Isaac was

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<v Speaker 1>there because Isaac we filmed this whole thing. Dan, even

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<v Speaker 1>though you weren't there, you'd be able to feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you were there. Yeah, because if you have five fingers

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<v Speaker 1>on the hand, you would have been the six fingers

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<v Speaker 1>if I had six six. That's so Isaac was there

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<v Speaker 1>because he was he was helping film he and Dave

0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Gardner for a film that's gonna come out for the

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<v Speaker 1>Meat Eat YouTube channel at some point in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>So Isaac was filming. That's why Isaac was there. Carry on,

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<v Speaker 1>It started off great, man, we get we just said

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go. That's where we're gonna go. So you

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<v Speaker 1>guys have gone to a different spot, and they left earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>I stayed back. They get help sheep get to his spot,

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<v Speaker 1>help miss to get to their spot. Your you missed,

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<v Speaker 1>we missed the whole day. He's telling his bear camp. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is okay. And my youngest son came in, so James,

0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Brent play, Isaac Dave Gardner, and then Misty and Shepherd came.

0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:54.159
<v Speaker 1>And then on that first Friday night, my mom and

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<v Speaker 1>dad came. Ju was there, Gary was there. We so

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<v Speaker 1>we had a big shindig. Everybody everybody drinking wed coffee

0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:13.880
<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours a day when we're at Gerald made

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<v Speaker 1>gallon barrel and sit it right on the pot, right

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<v Speaker 1>on the fire, so there was there was coffee enough

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<v Speaker 1>for everybody. It was it that may have been an exaggeration.

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<v Speaker 1>We would come in at like midnight and he'd be like,

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<v Speaker 1>I put the coffee on, coffee is hot, still made

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<v Speaker 1>it fresh from about eleven. Yeah it was good. Good

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<v Speaker 1>stut we'd hit it hard. Yeah, So okay, So that

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<v Speaker 1>was the first night, which was kind of like everybody

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<v Speaker 1>came in and so we're standing at a place. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not camping, we're staying at a cabin. So then what

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<v Speaker 1>happened the next day Brent, okay, so you can tell

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<v Speaker 1>about your hunting now. Now here we go. So we

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<v Speaker 1>get everybody sit on the stand, Isaac can I do?

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<v Speaker 1>And then we take off for our spot. I gets

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<v Speaker 1>it's like nine miles as a crow fly us from

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<v Speaker 1>where we are. But you know, and when you go

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<v Speaker 1>on the mountains in the mountains, yeah, fourteen back and

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<v Speaker 1>forth and left and right and all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And we get almost there and I look very frantically

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<v Speaker 1>in the back seat of the truck, and now I

0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:14.400
<v Speaker 1>look back at Isaing and I think, man, we gotta

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<v Speaker 1>go back to the camp because I forgot my bow.

0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:20.919
<v Speaker 1>So he's like, it's gonna be a problem. I like,

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<v Speaker 1>if we don't go back and get it, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a real big problem. It turns out he was right.

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<v Speaker 1>So we go back. We go all way back to camp,

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<v Speaker 1>get it. We'll get on the stand, which we were

0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:35.040
<v Speaker 1>are target time to get there was three. We were

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<v Speaker 1>in our late we got there for delay. We were

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<v Speaker 1>set at I think four twelve. We were set. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you had the cameras everything set up ready to roll.

0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:47.800
<v Speaker 1>I told him, I said, man, I know you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>ever said on one of these bear baits, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, you talk about the golden hour of

0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:54.560
<v Speaker 1>deer hunt. I said, we're going to have the golden

0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:57.640
<v Speaker 1>fifteen minutes if we're lucky before dark. You know that's

0:20:57.720 --> 0:20:59.359
<v Speaker 1>it's just the way it is. They're gonna come in.

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<v Speaker 1>We may see him out there, we may hear him,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're gonna hang around. And you know it dark,

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<v Speaker 1>especially we've got no daylight pictures. Five minutes to six,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll look over to my left, and short enough, here

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<v Speaker 1>comes a bear. And I miked up. I tell, I

0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:16.159
<v Speaker 1>tell Eliazac, you know here you can I see a

0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:20.320
<v Speaker 1>bear coming. And and we hadn't had a daylight picture

0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:22.879
<v Speaker 1>there in a long time, and over a week, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's yes, like what are you doing here? Yeah? Exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I was more, did you ever think about

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<v Speaker 1>just shooting it off? That thought never entered my mind?

0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:37.560
<v Speaker 1>You're in the wrong place, Yeah, you're you're early. But anyway,

0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:41.639
<v Speaker 1>good bear walks up, good shooter bear and walks behind

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<v Speaker 1>and and he's behind the barrel and and and looks

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<v Speaker 1>directly up there at us, and I thought, well, this

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<v Speaker 1>is it. So but I had already come to full draw.

0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:54.720
<v Speaker 1>Bear takes a turn, I watched the video. You you

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<v Speaker 1>about jerked the back out of that bow when you

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<v Speaker 1>hit your when you hit your your when I when

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<v Speaker 1>I pulled back, when when I were trying to pull

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<v Speaker 1>it back while the bears right. So you're just like

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as as soon as I as I disappeared,

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<v Speaker 1>I pulled it back. So when he come out and

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<v Speaker 1>he's looking at me, I got it right between his eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, you know you're gonna one way or the

0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:23.919
<v Speaker 1>other if I get a shot, you know, I'm I'm ready.

0:22:24.320 --> 0:22:26.280
<v Speaker 1>And they did. He did that old thing you know

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<v Speaker 1>where they just kind of start doing to move slow

0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:31.879
<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden they just they're gone. But

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<v Speaker 1>when he turned to the left, back to the left,

0:22:34.640 --> 0:22:36.720
<v Speaker 1>or the bear turned back to the left, and I

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<v Speaker 1>had a good quarter and shot. I turned to loose.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw it come out the front and two or

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<v Speaker 1>three jumps and just we watched him walk away. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was what was odd, is suston spar It's what

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<v Speaker 1>seems to be like a tin ring shot and the

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<v Speaker 1>bear text a couple of leaps and then just start

0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:55.399
<v Speaker 1>just walks off, which is not I wouldn't say that's common. No,

0:22:55.680 --> 0:22:58.040
<v Speaker 1>it was nothing. The other two bears that I've shot,

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<v Speaker 1>like that that I've taken. When I shot him, man,

0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:02.920
<v Speaker 1>there it was like that you lit a fuse. They

0:23:02.960 --> 0:23:07.359
<v Speaker 1>were gone and and both of them died within gosh,

0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:10.880
<v Speaker 1>forty yards. I guess where I was at this. We're

0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:13.760
<v Speaker 1>going backwards here. But the first bear you killed, I

0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:18.119
<v Speaker 1>was with you, and it ran like a racehorse about

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<v Speaker 1>twenty yards, tumbled down a very steep hill and splashed

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<v Speaker 1>into a creek. Do you remember that? Oh? Yeah, I

0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:31.600
<v Speaker 1>was there absolutely vividly. The next year, which or the

0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:34.720
<v Speaker 1>next bear I killed, which was last year, that bear

0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:38.879
<v Speaker 1>was standing in the same tracks and ran the same

0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:41.160
<v Speaker 1>place but got hung up. But they were both dead

0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:44.320
<v Speaker 1>once they hit the edge of the woods, this one.

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<v Speaker 1>And I felt good about the shot. I mean, it

0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:49.560
<v Speaker 1>surprised me when it went off. It was the hair

0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I was looking at. That knock covered it up. When

0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:55.480
<v Speaker 1>it went through. The bear took four or five good jumps,

0:23:55.480 --> 0:23:57.520
<v Speaker 1>so way I remember it. I hadn't seen the footage.

0:23:57.640 --> 0:24:00.400
<v Speaker 1>And then he just walked off and I just turned

0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:02.960
<v Speaker 1>out looking Isaac. You know, no, no, no, no, no no.

0:24:03.840 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 1>You stared at that bear for twenty minutes. Yeah, probably

0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:09.120
<v Speaker 1>need to tell the rest of this because I had

0:24:09.200 --> 0:24:13.159
<v Speaker 1>no sense. I felt like an eternity. You just watched

0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:16.520
<v Speaker 1>where that bear disappeared for like probably three and a

0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:19.040
<v Speaker 1>half minutes. Yeah, I mean there's a lot that went on.

0:24:19.200 --> 0:24:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Hours later we come back because y'all had to come

0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:23.160
<v Speaker 1>back to camp. We came all the way off from

0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:25.720
<v Speaker 1>where we got back to camp. We got a problem

0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:28.520
<v Speaker 1>where we're at no very little cell coverage. So like,

0:24:28.640 --> 0:24:31.680
<v Speaker 1>somebody does something, you gotta go talk to him. You

0:24:31.720 --> 0:24:34.679
<v Speaker 1>gotta do it old school. Well, actually the thing is

0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Clay was going to invite you, but we got down

0:24:36.480 --> 0:24:47.080
<v Speaker 1>there next year six fingers, and so we go track

0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:53.159
<v Speaker 1>this bear. Who wants a six finger nobody apparently, So

0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:57.359
<v Speaker 1>we go track this bear and the bear starts running

0:24:57.440 --> 0:25:00.520
<v Speaker 1>up a hill and that's that. That's where we left

0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:02.840
<v Speaker 1>it off. Yeah, they attracted a little bit. The bear

0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:06.720
<v Speaker 1>ran probably fifteen yards up a very steep hill, which

0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:09.080
<v Speaker 1>when when I got on the blood trail, I was like, man,

0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Speaker 1>that's not a good sign. But it immediately turned back

0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:16.640
<v Speaker 1>down and the bear only went how far A hundred yards? No,

0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:19.120
<v Speaker 1>he didn't go that far. I'd say about eighty yards

0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:22.720
<v Speaker 1>from a straight line. Yeah. Yeah, And so man, the

0:25:22.840 --> 0:25:25.520
<v Speaker 1>first first day of bear season, we got a really

0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:27.840
<v Speaker 1>nice bear on the ground. I would say, if I

0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:30.200
<v Speaker 1>was just being totally honest, wasn't If you weren't here

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:32.520
<v Speaker 1>and someone said, Clay, tell me really how much Brent

0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:35.760
<v Speaker 1>bear Wade, I would say to seventy, so, I mean,

0:25:35.760 --> 0:25:41.840
<v Speaker 1>that's a heck of a It was seventy extremely, extremely

0:25:42.200 --> 0:25:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen anything like it. If Brent were here, though.

0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:49.639
<v Speaker 1>The whole article on this one time about the reality

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:54.000
<v Speaker 1>of bear weights functionally inside a bear camp, because when

0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:56.080
<v Speaker 1>you're when a bear is there in the back of

0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:59.159
<v Speaker 1>the truck and the guy you know, you're you're in

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:01.520
<v Speaker 1>the heat of the mole. I mean, you're pumped. This

0:26:01.600 --> 0:26:05.080
<v Speaker 1>is what you wait all year for. And your good

0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:08.040
<v Speaker 1>buddy has killed this bear, and he goes, man, how

0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:11.480
<v Speaker 1>much you think that thing weighs? I gay wrong to you.

0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:14.960
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna add thirty five to forty pounds. You're not

0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:17.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna do the math in your head. You're not gonna

0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:20.960
<v Speaker 1>calculate it, but you're gonna say a number that's instinctively

0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 1>bigger than it actually is. I've only killed one bear,

0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:29.080
<v Speaker 1>and I think they told me it was to five.

0:26:29.160 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 1>But if you're telling me that one maybe I want

0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 1>to actually this is a different type of bear. Yeah. Yeah.

0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:49.240
<v Speaker 1>Bear wits are house very very commonly overestimated by minimum.

0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:53.359
<v Speaker 1>They're hard, they're hard, they're very hard to judge. And

0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:55.119
<v Speaker 1>we've weighed enough of them now that you know, we

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:56.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of get a feel. But sometimes you can't wait

0:26:56.920 --> 0:26:58.520
<v Speaker 1>like we did. We weren't able to weigh your bear,

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:02.560
<v Speaker 1>and then the bear the next day that I would kill.

0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I hate to spill the beans that quickly kill the

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Speaker 1>bear the next day, and uh, I would have it was.

0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:15.159
<v Speaker 1>I estimated my bear to weigh three hundred plus or

0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:19.520
<v Speaker 1>minus twenty pounds. That was what I was what I well,

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:22.560
<v Speaker 1>that was that was just clay by himself, not in

0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 1>front of the truck. So his calculation. If I had

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:28.520
<v Speaker 1>asked Brent, Brent would have said, all that bear ways

0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:32.399
<v Speaker 1>three fifty. Well, Brent, I saw both bears. No, you

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:42.200
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have seen my No, you did not bear camps,

0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:49.360
<v Speaker 1>bear camp all. Misty cares about his bear fat literally right,

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:53.800
<v Speaker 1>bear fat and and other things and meat. Yeah, I

0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:56.199
<v Speaker 1>went through. Misty was mad at me last year. I

0:27:56.359 --> 0:28:00.920
<v Speaker 1>was has there been a year where she hasn't been

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:06.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, last year Clay took a lot of

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:13.000
<v Speaker 1>people we won't call names hunting definitely not man, we

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 1>start tell me about that year he was getting snippy.

0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Let's start the podcast by making fun of his outfit

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 1>and the only talk about things he wasn't everything's fine,

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 1>everything's fine, fine, And so he didn't. You know, other

0:28:29.800 --> 0:28:32.200
<v Speaker 1>people got the meat and they got the grease. And

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean we had a lot of time to cook

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 1>last year. I had both girls home and we wanted

0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:40.880
<v Speaker 1>to do and it was no bacon and home. No,

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 1>I didn't bring home the bacon. He did not, not

0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 1>literally figurus, it was a good year. And then he

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:48.960
<v Speaker 1>goes hunting in the spring and that bear had I

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 1>mean he took a picture of them holding up the

0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 1>little tiny sliver of fat that yeah, I mean it

0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 1>was there was nothing on it. So I've been killed

0:28:57.960 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 1>that I was in on this spring which I didn't

0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 1>pull the tree literally, I took a video of the

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 1>amount of fact we pulled off of that bear, very

0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:07.080
<v Speaker 1>small amount of You know, a spring bear up in

0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Montana is not going to have that much fat. A

0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of the bears are going keto now, yes they do.

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Up there. A lot of proaches. You're still miss an

0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 1>important part of that of that day, of that kill

0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:23.520
<v Speaker 1>of my bear. What's that between Isaac, Dave, you and me?

0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Millions of views millions literally millions of views video and

0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:33.480
<v Speaker 1>photo between the four whelds, and we didn't take one

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:40.320
<v Speaker 1>picture to me with my bear. You had two professional

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:43.560
<v Speaker 1>photographers and one photographer, and we didn't get a single

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 1>picture of your bear. You should have had one more person, Daniel,

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 1>will you be my take my phone? It's it's overlooked. Yeah,

0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:01.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, I want to have a great video. Though.

0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:04.560
<v Speaker 1>I never thought about it until you said, Hey, we

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:06.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't take any picture, I mean your bear. We had

0:30:06.840 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 1>skimmed it. It was in an ice chest, and I

0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 1>was like, didn't you picture? We actually did it hard.

0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:16.479
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a part of the story that's very,

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, incredibly valuable. I did not know where we

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:25.440
<v Speaker 1>hunted had a drop off box, like you know, you

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 1>go in the nineties, you would you would drop off

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 1>your your video Blockbuster. Yeah, exactly exactly, and you leave

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 1>in the overnight drop box. You go the post office

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 1>today and you've got a letter you want to mail off,

0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 1>you put it where we were. They have an overnight

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 1>bare box a cooler that you just drop your stuff off.

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Kind of crazy. I was go get it tomorrow. A

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 1>matter of fact, we had great. We had a great

0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Bearca was great and uh, Isaac, what hey, real quick?

0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 1>What was your perception of the whole thing. You've never

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:01.320
<v Speaker 1>been to our camp or anything? Oh incredible. Uh the

0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 1>hunting was great. Saturday, Britt got a bear. Sunday, you

0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 1>got a bear Monday. Monday. You gotta tell that story.

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 1>An him on. I thought about bringing him on, but yeah,

0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:17.120
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you. Wait, wait, wait, the most manly person

0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:21.400
<v Speaker 1>in bear camp wasn't in bear camp and was Clay's

0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 1>fifteen year old time. Every what he did was every

0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:39.360
<v Speaker 1>everyone was just like incredible. So four years ago we

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 1>bear Nukem was in line to start bear hunting. You know,

0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 1>River killed a bear first and bear was in line

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 1>to bear hunt. And we hunt over bait. We love

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 1>hunting over bait. That's the way we hunt. I could

0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 1>tell you you know. The other way that I love

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 1>to hunt, which I love even more than hunting over bait,

0:31:57.560 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 1>is hunting him in national forest like deer, which is

0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:05.200
<v Speaker 1>I believe the toughest hunt around, toughest hunt I know

0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 1>of in this part of the country, just because the

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 1>low bear densities, the wide geographic home range that bears have.

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can walk around the woods for years

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 1>and not see a bear in good bear country. It's tough.

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:22.040
<v Speaker 1>And so I saw some fire in Bear's eyes when

0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 1>he was about ten eleven years old, and I just said, Bear,

0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 1>you ought to You got to think about this, and

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:31.400
<v Speaker 1>I knew it had to be his decision. I wasn't

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna mandate this, but I planted in his mind the

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:37.400
<v Speaker 1>idea of not killing a bear overbait and killing the

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 1>one in the national forest, which I knew was gonna

0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 1>be very hard, and mainly because his brother and sisters

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:46.240
<v Speaker 1>were killing bear and kind of getting attention for it

0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:49.880
<v Speaker 1>and whatnot. But Bear like the idea of it, and

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:51.480
<v Speaker 1>he said, yeah, that's what I want to do Dad.

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:55.600
<v Speaker 1>And he had he had a moment of weakness one

0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:58.840
<v Speaker 1>day when he was I think twelve, and James Lawrence

0:32:58.880 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 1>didn't know that we had this little deal going, and

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:05.800
<v Speaker 1>I was gone, and James said, hey, Bear, why don't

0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:09.120
<v Speaker 1>you come hunting with me? And so Bear was like okay,

0:33:09.200 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 1>And so Bear took his bowl and actually actually clipped

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:16.560
<v Speaker 1>a bear, so he shot at a bear over bait

0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:19.480
<v Speaker 1>out there, but we never found it. And then Bear

0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 1>came back and was and I mean it was totally fine,

0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:25.400
<v Speaker 1>but he was like, hey, Dad, I'm not I'm not

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna hunt over bait again. And he just didn't have

0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:30.560
<v Speaker 1>the tack at that age to be like Mr James, No,

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:33.400
<v Speaker 1>actually I don't hunt over I'm not gonna do that.

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so, but so for the last several years

0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:40.920
<v Speaker 1>we've hunted in National Forest and tried to get him

0:33:40.920 --> 0:33:45.160
<v Speaker 1>a bear. And years ago, years ago, I said, Bear,

0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 1>And this was before we made this deal. I told Bear,

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 1>I said, one day, I'm gonna drop you off and

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give you a pack and some freeze dried

0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:57.600
<v Speaker 1>meals and i'm gonna send you off and i'm gonna

0:33:57.600 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 1>pick you up three days later and let you camp

0:33:59.720 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 1>all by yourself. And this is when he was just

0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:03.280
<v Speaker 1>a little boy, and I remember his eyes lightening up

0:34:03.280 --> 0:34:05.840
<v Speaker 1>and just thinking how cool that would be. And that's

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 1>what we did this year. It was time, you know,

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 1>back in the summer, I said, Bear, you need to

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 1>hunt the first three days of season and and so

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 1>we're having this big bear camp which our bear camp

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:20.440
<v Speaker 1>is just a ton of fun. I mean we eat

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:22.319
<v Speaker 1>great food, we sit around the fire. I mean it's

0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of work. We were baiting bears. Yeah, we

0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:29.680
<v Speaker 1>had lots of fruit bars and different things. We we Uh,

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:34.520
<v Speaker 1>it's camaraderie, it's fun. We don't hunt the mornings pretty much,

0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 1>just hunt the evening. So you know we're sleeping in

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:38.760
<v Speaker 1>a little bit in the morning, sitting around drinking coffee,

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 1>just having a good time. Well, the night before season,

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 1>all of us drive over and dump Bear out in

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:47.319
<v Speaker 1>the woods and he's got his pack and his bow,

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:49.880
<v Speaker 1>and he's got a he's got a tethered tree saddle

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:51.960
<v Speaker 1>which is a way for him to get up in

0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 1>a tree, had some sticks, and he's got an in

0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 1>reach and parts of his hunt he'll be in cell range.

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:03.920
<v Speaker 1>And so the whole weekend we're just like we're back

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 1>living in luxury and bar nuclems out you know, roughing

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:10.440
<v Speaker 1>it out in the out in the woods by himself.

0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:14.839
<v Speaker 1>And um, it was so cool because the whole I mean,

0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:18.359
<v Speaker 1>there wasn't probably a five hour stretch of time when

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 1>somebody didn't say something about bear being out there. You know,

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:23.880
<v Speaker 1>what did anybody get an update, is in bad hurting thing?

0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:27.359
<v Speaker 1>Is he seen anything? Well, on the second day, he

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:29.879
<v Speaker 1>saw a soal with cubs, which was a big deal.

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:32.279
<v Speaker 1>He you know, he messaged me, Dan, I just saw

0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:34.560
<v Speaker 1>a south cubs and you can't you can't shoot a

0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:37.560
<v Speaker 1>sou with cubs. And it was within eight yards of him,

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:40.880
<v Speaker 1>just walked right under him, and so big win. Like

0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:44.920
<v Speaker 1>I thought, there's our win. And he is not just hunting.

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:48.400
<v Speaker 1>He he had a game plan. What he did is

0:35:48.440 --> 0:35:50.879
<v Speaker 1>he he hunted out from his camp for the first

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 1>two hours the morning and still hunting, just moving along,

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 1>slipping in through the wind. And then by ten o'clock

0:35:57.640 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 1>he would be hunting in his tree stand, which was

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:02.319
<v Speaker 1>over bear sign, which where we knew some bears were

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:09.000
<v Speaker 1>moving through on natural food essentially okay, And he said

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:12.600
<v Speaker 1>in that stand from ten am till six am for

0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:18.359
<v Speaker 1>three days, eight hours hanging in that saddle and ten

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:22.840
<v Speaker 1>am to six pm, so eight hours. And um, he

0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:26.759
<v Speaker 1>on the second day he saw bears and and there's

0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:30.080
<v Speaker 1>a Dave Gardner took a photo of my phone because

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:33.080
<v Speaker 1>Dave and I were hunting when I messaged Bear and said, hey,

0:36:33.200 --> 0:36:35.439
<v Speaker 1>we'll come get you tonight. This is on day two.

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:37.719
<v Speaker 1>So he's been out there now two full nights and

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:41.120
<v Speaker 1>three days. The way it worked out, parts of three days.

0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:43.600
<v Speaker 1>And I said, hey, if you want to come to

0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:47.319
<v Speaker 1>bear camp, we'll come pick you up tonight. Meet us,

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:51.520
<v Speaker 1>meet us, you know, down the road. And I kind

0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:53.239
<v Speaker 1>of I was trying to give him my way out

0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:55.879
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't want him just to be and he said,

0:36:56.040 --> 0:36:59.719
<v Speaker 1>I've got the message. He said, nope, no staying. I

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 1>got to kill a bear. So he stayed. And the

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:05.960
<v Speaker 1>next day we had already killed bears. We were rendering

0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:09.120
<v Speaker 1>bear fat. We had no more than filled the last

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:13.640
<v Speaker 1>jar of bear fat, the last we're working on the

0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:16.439
<v Speaker 1>last batch of bear grease. And I see the little

0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:19.680
<v Speaker 1>green button beeping on my inn. Reach. We had sort

0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:22.719
<v Speaker 1>of mentally like, all right, finished the bear grease. We're

0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:25.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna go get some shots for the film, get a

0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:29.720
<v Speaker 1>sunset shot, whatever. Like we were winding back to civilization.

0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:33.879
<v Speaker 1>Green light on the end, Reach, green light on the end. Reach.

0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:36.400
<v Speaker 1>I go to it and it just says I killed

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 1>a bear, and we just flipped out. We really did.

0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:48.120
<v Speaker 1>It was probably I can't ever remember personally being more expressive.

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Just I mean, we just like I was just like

0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:59.719
<v Speaker 1>man your eyes like cartoon eyeballs messaged him back and

0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:02.040
<v Speaker 1>I said, we're on our way. It took us three

0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:04.520
<v Speaker 1>hours to get to him. By the time we got there,

0:38:04.560 --> 0:38:08.120
<v Speaker 1>and me and Dave and and Uh and Isaac went

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:10.359
<v Speaker 1>up to him. Brent went and got Ice with my

0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:15.080
<v Speaker 1>dad cat here. So Shephard and I had left Bear camp.

0:38:15.080 --> 0:38:17.080
<v Speaker 1>We were trying to get home before dark because we

0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:20.400
<v Speaker 1>weren't staying over right. And so as soon as I

0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:24.000
<v Speaker 1>get into cell range, my phone's going off because Bear

0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:26.400
<v Speaker 1>we have a family text thread, and Bear send a

0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:29.359
<v Speaker 1>message to the text thread, and so his sisters were

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:31.480
<v Speaker 1>the only ones in cell range, but they were in

0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:35.239
<v Speaker 1>different states, and so they he they're all talking, and

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I see the conversation, and I see all the you know,

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:40.440
<v Speaker 1>the newcom thread is popping up, and so Shepherd and

0:38:40.480 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I look and I pull over and there's a construction

0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:47.120
<v Speaker 1>area and I pull over. And I was afraid they

0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:49.319
<v Speaker 1>were going to go be in the out of cell

0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:52.280
<v Speaker 1>range all night long and not see not see the message,

0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:54.640
<v Speaker 1>because it is sometimes difficult to get those in reach messages,

0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:57.560
<v Speaker 1>and and especially where we're at because there's a real

0:38:57.600 --> 0:39:01.279
<v Speaker 1>thick campy. So I turned my car around and I

0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:04.319
<v Speaker 1>told Shepherd later on, I have no recollection of going

0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:07.839
<v Speaker 1>through the construction zone. I don't know how. And Shepherd said,

0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:12.040
<v Speaker 1>you did. You were safe, he said, but I I

0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:18.160
<v Speaker 1>it was orange and so we But it was real

0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:21.640
<v Speaker 1>sweet because the girls are bear it's not probably the

0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:24.800
<v Speaker 1>most expressive of the newcombs. And they were taking pictures

0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:28.560
<v Speaker 1>of him on FaceTime and because his face was like glowing,

0:39:28.640 --> 0:39:31.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was really sweet, and they he had

0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 1>to skin the bear by himself, and they he didn't

0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:37.480
<v Speaker 1>know how to turn taken up. Oddly, where the bear ran,

0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:40.920
<v Speaker 1>he had like better sell coverage than we have right

0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:43.520
<v Speaker 1>here where he was hunting, he did not as well.

0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 1>But when it went anyway, so he facetimed his sister

0:39:48.200 --> 0:39:50.440
<v Speaker 1>and she she was able to get a picture of

0:39:50.480 --> 0:39:53.680
<v Speaker 1>the bear before he skinned it via FaceTime. It was

0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:57.120
<v Speaker 1>pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah, so that was neat and we

0:39:57.160 --> 0:39:59.160
<v Speaker 1>went and got him. And then when when he came

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:02.200
<v Speaker 1>off the mountain, there was a whole crew of people

0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:08.160
<v Speaker 1>waiting my dad and mom and um who else misty ship.

0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:12.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, and anyway, they had drinks for him and

0:40:12.400 --> 0:40:15.160
<v Speaker 1>food and it was a big deal. It was awesome,

0:40:15.400 --> 0:40:21.320
<v Speaker 1>My man, he slept on the ground no pad, which

0:40:21.400 --> 0:40:24.000
<v Speaker 1>was just rocks. It looked like grass until you laid down,

0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:26.840
<v Speaker 1>and then his pillow was a stuff sack full of grass.

0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:31.560
<v Speaker 1>He ate one free stride meal a day. Is that

0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:34.080
<v Speaker 1>what he said? And he said, and Dave, I think,

0:40:34.120 --> 0:40:36.640
<v Speaker 1>asked him like, did you get scared? He's like, well,

0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:40.360
<v Speaker 1>there's this time when I was eating dinner, skunk came along.

0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:45.440
<v Speaker 1>I thought, that thing's praised me. My hunt's over. It's like,

0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:53.080
<v Speaker 1>that's that's because ye skunk. Yeah, you know that title

0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:56.880
<v Speaker 1>for that hunt it should be Brave Heart. Oh yeah, really,

0:40:57.040 --> 0:40:59.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, it really shows a lot of bravery and

0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:03.600
<v Speaker 1>dedication to a plan, which is unusual. Yeah. No, I

0:41:03.640 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 1>was really proud of him. Yeah, anybody everybody was still

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:10.120
<v Speaker 1>am well speaking of one of the best hunters, speaking

0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:16.359
<v Speaker 1>of the topics at hand, Warner Glenn and who who Mike?

0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:19.480
<v Speaker 1>You listen to the podcast? What do you think you

0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:23.640
<v Speaker 1>were there? I was there. It really brought back memories

0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:26.440
<v Speaker 1>and just feelings I had when I was there. I

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:29.080
<v Speaker 1>thought it was extremely well crafted and put together and

0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:32.920
<v Speaker 1>condensed because it covered you know, we were there a

0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:35.400
<v Speaker 1>total of maybe a day. We were there a short

0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:39.919
<v Speaker 1>time or time, lots of we gathered probably three four

0:41:39.960 --> 0:41:43.359
<v Speaker 1>hours ago audio. A lot of stuff happened, and they're

0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:48.719
<v Speaker 1>very busy people running that ranch. They were extremely gracious

0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:52.319
<v Speaker 1>with how much time they gave and uh, and it

0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:55.640
<v Speaker 1>happened quick. It was. The podcast is excellent and the

0:41:55.640 --> 0:41:58.800
<v Speaker 1>feedback that I've had from my friends and from especially

0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Ja Dussard, who is in the podcast, Jake said quote

0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:08.120
<v Speaker 1>it was fabulous and he's known Warner for over sixty years. Yeah,

0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:10.879
<v Speaker 1>I always like it. I'm trying to make a point

0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:14.160
<v Speaker 1>when I interviewed some of these older people to ask

0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:16.520
<v Speaker 1>him where they were when John F. Kennedy died, Because

0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:19.480
<v Speaker 1>do you remember the other guy, Britt Davis, who's ninety

0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:23.040
<v Speaker 1>in the Appalachian Mountain podcast. I asked about where he

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:25.680
<v Speaker 1>was because it's it really is. It's kind of like

0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 1>just a sampling of time. And Mr Britt was driving

0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:33.160
<v Speaker 1>a road greater. Really, Yeah, he was driving a road greater.

0:42:33.320 --> 0:42:35.400
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, he worked most of his life.

0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's what he did. Mr Warner, Glen, you

0:42:37.840 --> 0:42:40.080
<v Speaker 1>asked him where he was at when John F. Kennedy died.

0:42:40.440 --> 0:42:42.920
<v Speaker 1>He was on a mule hunting lions in the desert

0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:45.320
<v Speaker 1>and that's what he has done a lot of his life.

0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:47.759
<v Speaker 1>What was so unique is that Jay Dussard had the

0:42:47.840 --> 0:42:50.720
<v Speaker 1>skull and it just didn't pencil. It said November twenty second,

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:53.719
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty three. And then I said Jay had an

0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:56.279
<v Speaker 1>impact you when Jeff k died. He said, well, it

0:42:56.360 --> 0:43:03.680
<v Speaker 1>mainly just reminded me that I voted. What do you think? Dan?

0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, I think for some reason one of the

0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:09.520
<v Speaker 1>things that sticks out to me is when his daughter

0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:14.880
<v Speaker 1>was just talking about the way that she almost like intergenerationally,

0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:18.239
<v Speaker 1>the way she kind of shows him respect and like

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:21.160
<v Speaker 1>she said, I asked him questions that I know the

0:43:21.200 --> 0:43:23.960
<v Speaker 1>answer to, and I just I mean, I want a

0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:28.680
<v Speaker 1>rare kind of glimpse into their family dynamic and how

0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:32.919
<v Speaker 1>they treat one another and respect and and honestly, after

0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:36.080
<v Speaker 1>the podcast, I called my mom. I thought, I want

0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:38.120
<v Speaker 1>to I want to interact like that, and I want to.

0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:41.960
<v Speaker 1>I just really I really enjoyed kind of the intergeneration.

0:43:42.120 --> 0:43:43.640
<v Speaker 1>And then the other thing that really got to me

0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:47.360
<v Speaker 1>um was when she she was there, they're both talking

0:43:47.400 --> 0:43:52.440
<v Speaker 1>about the one dog that's older, Hook, Hook, and when

0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:55.960
<v Speaker 1>she was describing Hook and that was like a metaphor

0:43:56.120 --> 0:44:00.120
<v Speaker 1>for her dad and kind of watching him do the

0:44:00.239 --> 0:44:03.360
<v Speaker 1>end of his life but continue to model and be

0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:08.040
<v Speaker 1>a type that everyone can something that was fantastic. Yeah,

0:44:08.560 --> 0:44:11.239
<v Speaker 1>the way she described it when she said quietly going

0:44:11.320 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 1>on that was that you could have I don't know

0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:18.600
<v Speaker 1>if that whole podcast or that man the image I

0:44:18.680 --> 0:44:20.759
<v Speaker 1>had of him after listening to that, if that wasn't

0:44:20.800 --> 0:44:24.680
<v Speaker 1>the most fitting description of the stuff that he does

0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:28.920
<v Speaker 1>and what he represents out there quietly going only, it

0:44:28.960 --> 0:44:31.879
<v Speaker 1>was really powerful for me to listen to that. What

0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:34.799
<v Speaker 1>did you think? Well, it was just it reminded me

0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:37.839
<v Speaker 1>of a lot of people that you know, my grandfather

0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:40.600
<v Speaker 1>and you know people that I've known and and read

0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:44.520
<v Speaker 1>about and heard about. You referenced Daniel Boone in that thing.

0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:47.160
<v Speaker 1>A lot of that stuff came came back in my

0:44:47.200 --> 0:44:51.279
<v Speaker 1>head about how he was, how humble Mr Glenn is

0:44:51.560 --> 0:44:53.759
<v Speaker 1>and you know, to him the stuff that he was

0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:57.440
<v Speaker 1>doing like Boone, it was I'm not doing this for

0:44:57.480 --> 0:44:59.680
<v Speaker 1>glory or if this is just something needs to be done,

0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:01.799
<v Speaker 1>and this this is what I do. This is where

0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:03.640
<v Speaker 1>I am in my life, and this is the things

0:45:03.640 --> 0:45:06.600
<v Speaker 1>that I do to take care of my family and myself,

0:45:06.760 --> 0:45:08.920
<v Speaker 1>and this is I just go do him. They just

0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:13.120
<v Speaker 1>happened to be hard. You know. There's so many things

0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:16.439
<v Speaker 1>that I wanted to talk about about him. First of all,

0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:19.120
<v Speaker 1>I and I think I can say this and be

0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:22.200
<v Speaker 1>safe in that because I don't want it to sound negative.

0:45:22.680 --> 0:45:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I expected Warner Glenn to be And when I say

0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:31.479
<v Speaker 1>a proud man, I don't mean that negatively. I've never

0:45:31.520 --> 0:45:34.520
<v Speaker 1>spoken to the man, you know. I dealt with Kelly

0:45:34.640 --> 0:45:37.319
<v Speaker 1>the whole time, like like setting this up, you know,

0:45:37.560 --> 0:45:40.480
<v Speaker 1>and I knew Warner had a ton of character. I

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:42.520
<v Speaker 1>mean like he was the guy, the kind of guy

0:45:42.640 --> 0:45:47.040
<v Speaker 1>wanted to learn who he was. And the biggest thing

0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Mike and I've discussed this in great detail, and Misty two,

0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:53.479
<v Speaker 1>I've talked to Missy about it. What I was most

0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:56.640
<v Speaker 1>impacted about, and it was very real to me, was

0:45:56.760 --> 0:45:59.799
<v Speaker 1>his humility. It was the dominant feature of who he was.

0:45:59.840 --> 0:46:04.040
<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't just a personality trait. It wasn't just niceties,

0:46:04.280 --> 0:46:10.640
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't hospitality. It was a deep, genuine humility. That

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:13.640
<v Speaker 1>is it can't be fabricated. And I'm telling you, I

0:46:14.200 --> 0:46:16.120
<v Speaker 1>what I said at the end of that podcast, I

0:46:16.280 --> 0:46:21.560
<v Speaker 1>meant in that sometimes we as men and me I

0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:24.279
<v Speaker 1>was talking about me at at the age I am at.

0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I feel like there's this pressure from the world to

0:46:29.520 --> 0:46:32.719
<v Speaker 1>be bold and confident. I think I have mistaken that

0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:36.480
<v Speaker 1>at times to be the dominant feature of what my

0:46:36.840 --> 0:46:39.719
<v Speaker 1>life is supposed to be. And and just what I

0:46:39.760 --> 0:46:43.080
<v Speaker 1>saw and and man, sometimes stuff is just revelational. And

0:46:43.120 --> 0:46:46.080
<v Speaker 1>by that I mean you see something and you cannot

0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:49.040
<v Speaker 1>explain why it changes you, but it does. You walk

0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:52.120
<v Speaker 1>out of it and you're different than you were before. Really,

0:46:52.160 --> 0:46:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I We're pulling out of Warren Lends Driveway and Mike

0:46:55.680 --> 0:46:58.319
<v Speaker 1>and I had this conversation and I said, I now,

0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I said, I could have told you this before, I

0:47:01.120 --> 0:47:04.600
<v Speaker 1>could have spoken these words in this order. But I said,

0:47:04.880 --> 0:47:10.719
<v Speaker 1>I see how boldness and confidence are the foundation of

0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:16.320
<v Speaker 1>it is deep humility and others nous and servant, servant focused,

0:47:16.360 --> 0:47:19.399
<v Speaker 1>which I mean maybe, I mean that's what I saw

0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:23.000
<v Speaker 1>inside of Mr Warner. And and because I expected kind

0:47:23.000 --> 0:47:25.359
<v Speaker 1>of a John Wayne kind of guy, and he he

0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:28.799
<v Speaker 1>did stuff that John Wayne would have, you know, fell

0:47:28.840 --> 0:47:30.880
<v Speaker 1>out of his horse if he'd done I mean, you know,

0:47:30.920 --> 0:47:33.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean Mr Warner really and yeah, hadn't even heard

0:47:33.600 --> 0:47:35.719
<v Speaker 1>the most of it. I mean, and a lot of

0:47:35.719 --> 0:47:38.520
<v Speaker 1>stuff in his book he talks about, I mean just

0:47:38.800 --> 0:47:41.000
<v Speaker 1>wild stuff. I mean, like he he is really a

0:47:41.040 --> 0:47:43.480
<v Speaker 1>modern They can make a movie about him. I mean

0:47:43.520 --> 0:47:49.040
<v Speaker 1>he's tracked his his neighbor was murdered by an illegal

0:47:49.040 --> 0:47:52.680
<v Speaker 1>immigrant that came across the border, and Warner Glenn tracked

0:47:52.719 --> 0:47:56.359
<v Speaker 1>that man down on a horse until the dude went

0:47:56.400 --> 0:47:59.360
<v Speaker 1>over the border and they and they couldn't, they couldn't

0:47:59.360 --> 0:48:03.440
<v Speaker 1>pursue any longer. Warner, you know, roping mountain lions. Warner,

0:48:04.000 --> 0:48:07.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, uh, wait till you hear the podcast number

0:48:07.920 --> 0:48:10.640
<v Speaker 1>two when you're gonna hear when he got into a

0:48:10.640 --> 0:48:14.080
<v Speaker 1>fist fight with uh somebody, I'm not gonna tell you

0:48:14.120 --> 0:48:17.320
<v Speaker 1>who it was until the podcast, but changed his life,

0:48:17.800 --> 0:48:21.400
<v Speaker 1>it really did. And then he became this diplomat. He

0:48:21.480 --> 0:48:23.600
<v Speaker 1>was in his forties, kind of the peak of when

0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:26.319
<v Speaker 1>a man. I think, in in his forties a man,

0:48:27.200 --> 0:48:29.880
<v Speaker 1>he's not an adolescent, he's not an old man. And

0:48:29.920 --> 0:48:32.160
<v Speaker 1>it's like, you can really screw stuff up in the

0:48:32.200 --> 0:48:41.600
<v Speaker 1>in your forties. I think, looking at me, the six finger,

0:48:44.280 --> 0:48:46.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, you guess when you can fix him? Well,

0:48:46.960 --> 0:48:51.200
<v Speaker 1>that's right, I mean, thank you, Brent. Just it feels

0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:54.200
<v Speaker 1>like when you're in your forties, your world is starting

0:48:54.239 --> 0:48:57.760
<v Speaker 1>to formulate, you know, like you gained confidence, your careers

0:48:57.760 --> 0:49:03.399
<v Speaker 1>developed you. You you have decades of potential accolades that

0:49:03.440 --> 0:49:06.560
<v Speaker 1>have built into your life. It makes sense that he

0:49:06.560 --> 0:49:09.120
<v Speaker 1>would have done what he did and then, but it

0:49:09.239 --> 0:49:13.560
<v Speaker 1>shifted him and changed him anyway. I look at the

0:49:13.600 --> 0:49:15.959
<v Speaker 1>thing behind the thing I do. That's just the way

0:49:15.960 --> 0:49:18.520
<v Speaker 1>we do. Just as you were talking about this, Clay,

0:49:18.560 --> 0:49:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking something kind of a new thought here. That's

0:49:22.160 --> 0:49:25.120
<v Speaker 1>that I see. You know, his dad was Marvin, and

0:49:25.160 --> 0:49:28.359
<v Speaker 1>Marvin became very well known, very famous in the Southwest,

0:49:28.880 --> 0:49:32.440
<v Speaker 1>and oftentimes when you have a famous father, you oftentimes

0:49:32.680 --> 0:49:36.719
<v Speaker 1>have issues with the sons. And I didn't sense that

0:49:36.800 --> 0:49:40.399
<v Speaker 1>at all in that family or inside of Warner at all.

0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:46.320
<v Speaker 1>He he Warner had also become let's let's say famous,

0:49:46.960 --> 0:49:50.440
<v Speaker 1>and yet you could see that had never touched his life.

0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:53.520
<v Speaker 1>His the amount of accolades or the amount of tention

0:49:53.560 --> 0:49:56.200
<v Speaker 1>he had had in his life was really It's like

0:49:56.239 --> 0:49:58.719
<v Speaker 1>it was deflected off of him. He just he never

0:49:59.000 --> 0:50:01.839
<v Speaker 1>he never got to mind by that. He just did

0:50:01.840 --> 0:50:03.680
<v Speaker 1>what he was supposed to do and kept doing it

0:50:03.960 --> 0:50:07.560
<v Speaker 1>and enjoying his life and making sure his family was secure,

0:50:08.480 --> 0:50:12.000
<v Speaker 1>and uh, he didn't. He didn't run after that fame,

0:50:12.120 --> 0:50:14.799
<v Speaker 1>which I think is pretty common in a second son

0:50:14.880 --> 0:50:17.719
<v Speaker 1>underneath the famous father, they want to cut out their

0:50:17.719 --> 0:50:21.000
<v Speaker 1>own territory. And you didn't see that with Warner at all.

0:50:21.480 --> 0:50:24.359
<v Speaker 1>You know, there's been a fair bit of press given

0:50:24.360 --> 0:50:26.719
<v Speaker 1>to Warner Glenn over there, like this book, Like he

0:50:26.719 --> 0:50:29.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't write a book about himself, somebody else wrote the

0:50:29.120 --> 0:50:32.359
<v Speaker 1>book about him. Um that I picked up a book.

0:50:32.400 --> 0:50:35.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm reading a book right now that references Warner Glenn.

0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:38.400
<v Speaker 1>It's about jaguars, which you'll hear in a later podcast

0:50:38.440 --> 0:50:42.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do. But what I saw two was a

0:50:42.480 --> 0:50:44.319
<v Speaker 1>man who he didn't ask for me to come to

0:50:44.360 --> 0:50:47.399
<v Speaker 1>his house. I saught him out like he he does

0:50:47.440 --> 0:50:52.759
<v Speaker 1>not seek attention. But he was very, very hospitable, and

0:50:52.800 --> 0:50:55.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean he didn't Warner Glenn didn't know who met

0:50:55.760 --> 0:50:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Eater was. I mean, it wasn't like we got some

0:50:57.920 --> 0:51:01.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of special treatment because because I mean, he never

0:51:01.719 --> 0:51:05.640
<v Speaker 1>heard of you know what I'm saying. And uh, and

0:51:05.680 --> 0:51:08.960
<v Speaker 1>they treated us like kings, they really did. And I

0:51:09.800 --> 0:51:12.440
<v Speaker 1>admired that. But Misty, what did you think? Some of

0:51:12.440 --> 0:51:14.799
<v Speaker 1>what I thought has already been already been said, so

0:51:14.840 --> 0:51:17.759
<v Speaker 1>I'll just elaborate a little tell me a favorite part

0:51:17.840 --> 0:51:19.920
<v Speaker 1>because they ask the question, Yeah, let me ask you

0:51:19.920 --> 0:51:21.759
<v Speaker 1>a question. I'm just thinking about what you just said

0:51:21.760 --> 0:51:24.440
<v Speaker 1>about him when he was in his forties. Uh, is

0:51:24.480 --> 0:51:25.960
<v Speaker 1>that when the incident that you're gonna talk about in

0:51:25.960 --> 0:51:28.920
<v Speaker 1>the next podcast happened. That's just super interesting to me

0:51:29.000 --> 0:51:32.400
<v Speaker 1>because you could see how Yeah, no spoiler alerts here,

0:51:32.760 --> 0:51:35.600
<v Speaker 1>but let's just build some suspense. Everyone should listen to

0:51:35.640 --> 0:51:37.880
<v Speaker 1>the next podcast. It's going to be really good. I

0:51:37.920 --> 0:51:40.160
<v Speaker 1>thought when Kelly talked at the end, it was it

0:51:40.239 --> 0:51:41.879
<v Speaker 1>was very good, and I thought there was a real

0:51:41.920 --> 0:51:44.920
<v Speaker 1>sense of mutual honor. You could see it in her.

0:51:45.239 --> 0:51:46.680
<v Speaker 1>You could, I mean, she was the one talking and

0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:48.799
<v Speaker 1>what she was sharing was really good. You could also

0:51:48.840 --> 0:51:51.080
<v Speaker 1>see it in him. And I think that it's sometimes

0:51:51.160 --> 0:51:54.960
<v Speaker 1>hard as you as you age, to release you know,

0:51:55.200 --> 0:51:57.960
<v Speaker 1>ownership of things to your to your kids in these

0:51:58.040 --> 0:52:03.239
<v Speaker 1>multigenerational families. And what I thought was really I just

0:52:03.239 --> 0:52:06.359
<v Speaker 1>thought the whole family dynamic was very unique, and there

0:52:06.400 --> 0:52:08.840
<v Speaker 1>was a culture of honor, there was a culture of humility,

0:52:09.120 --> 0:52:11.160
<v Speaker 1>and I felt that when you came back, I think

0:52:11.200 --> 0:52:13.360
<v Speaker 1>that would be my biggest takeaway from the whole podcast

0:52:13.480 --> 0:52:15.239
<v Speaker 1>is how you were when you came back and I

0:52:15.280 --> 0:52:18.319
<v Speaker 1>could tell that it had really impacted you, and when

0:52:18.360 --> 0:52:22.680
<v Speaker 1>you started talking to me just over coffee about the

0:52:22.680 --> 0:52:25.840
<v Speaker 1>impact of of interacting with this guy. And then to

0:52:25.920 --> 0:52:28.160
<v Speaker 1>hear Kelly describe them the way she described him, and

0:52:28.200 --> 0:52:32.760
<v Speaker 1>to hear how she how he gave, you know, basically

0:52:32.840 --> 0:52:35.759
<v Speaker 1>gave the is giving the business over to her, and

0:52:35.880 --> 0:52:38.120
<v Speaker 1>there's a real level of partnership. And I thought, as

0:52:38.160 --> 0:52:41.279
<v Speaker 1>a parent, that's something that as we age and as

0:52:41.320 --> 0:52:44.920
<v Speaker 1>our kids are only just barely dipping their toe into

0:52:45.360 --> 0:52:47.600
<v Speaker 1>like their early years and their dreams and their visions,

0:52:47.600 --> 0:52:49.719
<v Speaker 1>and there's no family business here, you know, there's no

0:52:50.239 --> 0:52:52.680
<v Speaker 1>it's not like we're passing down to business, but just

0:52:52.760 --> 0:52:56.920
<v Speaker 1>a lifestyle and and and in a in a transition

0:52:56.960 --> 0:52:58.799
<v Speaker 1>moment right now where our kids are doing some real

0:52:58.840 --> 0:53:01.880
<v Speaker 1>exciting things, and um, I want to I want to

0:53:01.920 --> 0:53:04.680
<v Speaker 1>be able to to interface with my kids with that

0:53:04.760 --> 0:53:08.680
<v Speaker 1>same level of honor and no sense of uh, just

0:53:08.920 --> 0:53:10.880
<v Speaker 1>a sense of respect and a sense of humility. And

0:53:10.880 --> 0:53:12.640
<v Speaker 1>I would want to pass that on to them for

0:53:12.680 --> 0:53:14.799
<v Speaker 1>them to pass on to their kids. And I was

0:53:14.840 --> 0:53:18.719
<v Speaker 1>really just really moved by the intergenerational dynamics, they're going

0:53:18.800 --> 0:53:21.640
<v Speaker 1>both ways, Kelly to him and him to her. And

0:53:21.680 --> 0:53:25.200
<v Speaker 1>like you said, Mike, what Marvin must have passed to

0:53:25.239 --> 0:53:27.480
<v Speaker 1>them for him to be able to do and other

0:53:27.520 --> 0:53:30.879
<v Speaker 1>stories that Clay said has had told me that will

0:53:30.880 --> 0:53:33.480
<v Speaker 1>make it on the podcast next week. Um, talk a

0:53:33.520 --> 0:53:36.040
<v Speaker 1>little bit about Marvin and and I thought you could

0:53:36.040 --> 0:53:38.719
<v Speaker 1>just see there was there was something at the head,

0:53:38.760 --> 0:53:41.560
<v Speaker 1>and I thought it was an aspirational place for parents

0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:44.279
<v Speaker 1>to stand. Yeah, before I forget about it. If you

0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:46.879
<v Speaker 1>want to get Warren Glenn's book, you can buy it

0:53:47.000 --> 0:53:51.600
<v Speaker 1>from W Hunting Supply Buddy Woodbury and our buddies at

0:53:51.760 --> 0:53:55.200
<v Speaker 1>W you can order from there. D it's actually D

0:53:55.360 --> 0:53:58.839
<v Speaker 1>you supply dot com like D as in the letter,

0:53:58.920 --> 0:54:02.359
<v Speaker 1>D you supply dot Com? Isaac, what did you think?

0:54:02.360 --> 0:54:04.520
<v Speaker 1>I haven't give give me a You can't okay, you

0:54:04.560 --> 0:54:06.840
<v Speaker 1>can't say well, I just want a piggyback off with

0:54:06.920 --> 0:54:10.680
<v Speaker 1>everybody else, said, I absolutely in an agreement. I've got

0:54:10.680 --> 0:54:15.880
<v Speaker 1>two thoughts. I've got two thoughts. One do you intend

0:54:15.960 --> 0:54:19.960
<v Speaker 1>to shorten his first name? As well? To just warn

0:54:22.000 --> 0:54:27.080
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about a lot a lot of parallels, Dan

0:54:27.320 --> 0:54:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Boone and uh No, Okay, so this isn't as profound

0:54:31.080 --> 0:54:33.200
<v Speaker 1>or anything like that. But when she was talking about

0:54:33.239 --> 0:54:38.320
<v Speaker 1>getting bitten by a lion, I was attacked by dogs

0:54:39.120 --> 0:54:42.560
<v Speaker 1>three years ago. Rottweiler's in a in a bad way.

0:54:42.560 --> 0:54:45.000
<v Speaker 1>There were three of them and I had I had

0:54:45.040 --> 0:54:48.520
<v Speaker 1>forty eight punctures one and no way, are you serious? Yeah?

0:54:48.520 --> 0:54:50.880
<v Speaker 1>I got a big hope you weren't wearing those crocs.

0:54:51.080 --> 0:54:53.359
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't. But I was riding my bike with my daughter.

0:54:55.719 --> 0:54:58.759
<v Speaker 1>Well as I was riding my bike with my daughter

0:54:58.800 --> 0:55:02.080
<v Speaker 1>in the trailer. It was crazy. But speaking of that,

0:55:02.160 --> 0:55:04.200
<v Speaker 1>I was wearing shoes and I kicked that dog in

0:55:04.239 --> 0:55:06.720
<v Speaker 1>the head as hard as I could and it did nothing.

0:55:06.840 --> 0:55:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I have never felt down the road. Yeah, just in town. Yeah,

0:55:12.480 --> 0:55:18.319
<v Speaker 1>I played soccer, growing feel pretty good. It was the

0:55:18.440 --> 0:55:20.839
<v Speaker 1>most impotent I've ever felt in my life, just like

0:55:20.880 --> 0:55:24.239
<v Speaker 1>I have no power in this situation. And knowing that,

0:55:24.520 --> 0:55:27.480
<v Speaker 1>and then thinking about their situation, which is a mountain lion,

0:55:27.560 --> 0:55:30.279
<v Speaker 1>which is a heck of a lot bigger than a rottweiler.

0:55:30.440 --> 0:55:34.319
<v Speaker 1>It's like I just made made the experience emotional of

0:55:34.360 --> 0:55:37.480
<v Speaker 1>listening to like Warner coming in and beating up the thing.

0:55:38.160 --> 0:55:41.439
<v Speaker 1>And keep in mind this was what how many years

0:55:41.440 --> 0:55:47.560
<v Speaker 1>ago the lion by? It was actually by it was

0:55:47.680 --> 0:55:50.799
<v Speaker 1>more recently. So how old is he? Oh, Warner would

0:55:50.800 --> 0:55:56.440
<v Speaker 1>have been eighty something when he she gets bit and

0:55:56.480 --> 0:56:00.200
<v Speaker 1>hes in and starts punching, and I'm thinking it's not

0:56:00.239 --> 0:56:03.680
<v Speaker 1>a spring chicken anyway. All of that was pretty pretty

0:56:03.800 --> 0:56:09.879
<v Speaker 1>Uh some have six fingers. Hey, I'll tell you. One

0:56:09.920 --> 0:56:14.239
<v Speaker 1>thing that stood out was when he talked about how

0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:17.720
<v Speaker 1>they rope those mountain lions and put them in zoos.

0:56:18.280 --> 0:56:20.160
<v Speaker 1>I had somebody, right me, I don't know who it was,

0:56:20.200 --> 0:56:25.120
<v Speaker 1>somebody on Instagram say that they thought it was really

0:56:25.239 --> 0:56:28.000
<v Speaker 1>unique that he was able to look back on that

0:56:28.719 --> 0:56:31.440
<v Speaker 1>and say, hey, it was probably a mistake. We wouldn't

0:56:31.480 --> 0:56:33.920
<v Speaker 1>do that today. Yeah, and him just kind of be

0:56:33.960 --> 0:56:39.080
<v Speaker 1>okay with that, contextualizing it. Yeah, I've learned rare muscle

0:56:39.239 --> 0:56:43.000
<v Speaker 1>inside of someone, I mean anybody. I mean, like, because

0:56:43.040 --> 0:56:45.520
<v Speaker 1>you you look back on stuff and most of the

0:56:45.560 --> 0:56:47.120
<v Speaker 1>time you just wouldn't I mean, if there if you

0:56:47.120 --> 0:56:48.560
<v Speaker 1>didn't have a problem with it, then you wouldn't have

0:56:48.600 --> 0:56:50.440
<v Speaker 1>a problem with it. Now, that's not a good way

0:56:50.440 --> 0:56:52.560
<v Speaker 1>to describe it. But I love both sides of it

0:56:52.600 --> 0:56:54.920
<v Speaker 1>because he has the cognizance to say, like, hey, that

0:56:55.000 --> 0:56:56.640
<v Speaker 1>was wrong. It's probably one of the worst things you

0:56:56.640 --> 0:56:59.120
<v Speaker 1>could do. Wouldn't do that again, and then the commenter

0:56:59.360 --> 0:57:03.359
<v Speaker 1>to ignore ledge that that is remorse and not try

0:57:03.400 --> 0:57:09.440
<v Speaker 1>and shut him down for I like, I remember that section,

0:57:09.520 --> 0:57:13.319
<v Speaker 1>and it seemed that he really identified with the mountain lion.

0:57:13.960 --> 0:57:16.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, he said, it's a wild thing made for

0:57:16.520 --> 0:57:18.720
<v Speaker 1>wild places, and I wouldn't like it if you put

0:57:18.760 --> 0:57:21.280
<v Speaker 1>me in a in a pen or an enclosure. And

0:57:21.320 --> 0:57:25.280
<v Speaker 1>so clearly as he as he goes after these animals

0:57:25.280 --> 0:57:27.280
<v Speaker 1>and hunts some that he's got a high of course

0:57:27.280 --> 0:57:29.880
<v Speaker 1>he's got a high level of respect. It's not you know,

0:57:29.920 --> 0:57:33.160
<v Speaker 1>but he's actually identifying with them, which is what gives

0:57:33.240 --> 0:57:37.160
<v Speaker 1>him empathy. And I was very happy to bring to

0:57:37.240 --> 0:57:39.840
<v Speaker 1>attention that it was a Disney movie that that was on.

0:57:39.960 --> 0:57:43.920
<v Speaker 1>I noticed that for real, because they would they would

0:57:45.000 --> 0:57:47.440
<v Speaker 1>some of these companies would love to just string Hunters

0:57:47.560 --> 0:57:54.000
<v Speaker 1>up and just say look at these hillbilly, redneck, irrelevant barbarians.

0:57:54.680 --> 0:57:57.440
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, hey, you guys were the ones making

0:57:57.520 --> 0:58:01.480
<v Speaker 1>movies back to the second about rope with lions, paying

0:58:01.480 --> 0:58:04.880
<v Speaker 1>our boys to go do it. I mean, they these

0:58:04.880 --> 0:58:11.480
<v Speaker 1>are the creators of Baby. Yeah, yeah, I was saying

0:58:11.520 --> 0:58:15.120
<v Speaker 1>the coming episodes, I think it will expand even an

0:58:15.240 --> 0:58:19.120
<v Speaker 1>understanding of Warner in the family and what's going on

0:58:19.160 --> 0:58:22.960
<v Speaker 1>in that region also, which again I look forward to

0:58:22.960 --> 0:58:26.080
<v Speaker 1>hearing that again because they're more than just a ranching family,

0:58:26.080 --> 0:58:29.400
<v Speaker 1>and they're more than just a hunting family. There's more

0:58:29.440 --> 0:58:32.800
<v Speaker 1>to to their their legacy than that. Yeah. Yeah, it's

0:58:32.840 --> 0:58:35.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of hard talking about Warner without being able to

0:58:35.880 --> 0:58:39.080
<v Speaker 1>talk about everything. But I want to wait just because

0:58:39.080 --> 0:58:42.320
<v Speaker 1>of that second podcast, Hey, what did you guys think

0:58:42.360 --> 0:58:46.000
<v Speaker 1>about the part about him running into the all the

0:58:46.080 --> 0:58:49.960
<v Speaker 1>drug dealers what he called drug mules on his land.

0:58:50.480 --> 0:58:52.440
<v Speaker 1>He was worried that you left it in there. I

0:58:52.520 --> 0:58:55.080
<v Speaker 1>was worried for well, what if they hear it and

0:58:55.120 --> 0:58:57.800
<v Speaker 1>find out that he called after he left? Everybody calls

0:58:58.440 --> 0:59:01.080
<v Speaker 1>wait wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, waits a drug there's

0:59:01.080 --> 0:59:03.640
<v Speaker 1>a there's a that's exactly drug mule. Who's listening to

0:59:03.640 --> 0:59:13.240
<v Speaker 1>the Bargaras podcast. I was cooking, and uh, and then

0:59:13.480 --> 0:59:15.080
<v Speaker 1>and I heard that, and I thought that, and then

0:59:15.080 --> 0:59:19.440
<v Speaker 1>I thought, wait that they would have to to Bargary's

0:59:19.480 --> 0:59:23.640
<v Speaker 1>probably good. I am very certain that we have a

0:59:23.760 --> 0:59:31.880
<v Speaker 1>large demographic of I was gonna say, you know, justraphic

0:59:32.040 --> 0:59:34.360
<v Speaker 1>is wide. Let me say that. Listen to Bargary's I

0:59:34.360 --> 0:59:37.800
<v Speaker 1>thought it was a very pragmatic approach to uh solving

0:59:37.840 --> 0:59:40.880
<v Speaker 1>the issue. How do you boys, We'll see you later.

0:59:42.760 --> 0:59:46.040
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't, you know what. It's interesting interview and somebody

0:59:46.040 --> 0:59:51.160
<v Speaker 1>like Warner, he is so practical, Like he was always

0:59:51.680 --> 0:59:53.919
<v Speaker 1>kind of in a hurry to tell his story, even

0:59:53.960 --> 0:59:57.720
<v Speaker 1>though he's a great storyteller. But I found him. And

0:59:57.800 --> 1:00:00.360
<v Speaker 1>part of it was because when we were there, they

1:00:00.360 --> 1:00:03.280
<v Speaker 1>didn't change their life too much for us, Like they

1:00:03.320 --> 1:00:05.400
<v Speaker 1>still had to do all the things they had to do.

1:00:05.720 --> 1:00:07.240
<v Speaker 1>So when we got there, he was like, well, we're

1:00:07.240 --> 1:00:09.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna go. Remember when I got there, we went to

1:00:09.760 --> 1:00:12.640
<v Speaker 1>some well five miles away, like they had worked to do. Well,

1:00:12.680 --> 1:00:14.720
<v Speaker 1>we gotta take the dogs out. He didn't do that

1:00:14.760 --> 1:00:17.479
<v Speaker 1>just because I was there. And so when we sat

1:00:17.520 --> 1:00:19.360
<v Speaker 1>down for the interview, that was the only part of

1:00:19.360 --> 1:00:22.400
<v Speaker 1>the time that really wasn't like on the schedule and

1:00:22.440 --> 1:00:25.560
<v Speaker 1>so like he kind of moved fast. But I wanted

1:00:25.640 --> 1:00:27.720
<v Speaker 1>him to tell some specific stories that we didn't get to.

1:00:27.800 --> 1:00:29.600
<v Speaker 1>But in the book there's a story of him and

1:00:29.720 --> 1:00:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Kelly coming around the canyon coming around this trail and

1:00:33.720 --> 1:00:37.400
<v Speaker 1>he says, there's two two guys sitting on a bale

1:00:37.400 --> 1:00:40.480
<v Speaker 1>of drugs, bales of drugs in the trail, and they

1:00:40.520 --> 1:00:43.880
<v Speaker 1>just surprised each other. And you just can see warrener

1:00:44.040 --> 1:00:49.440
<v Speaker 1>just like nonchalant, not acting surprised. He didn't like turn

1:00:49.480 --> 1:00:52.240
<v Speaker 1>and run with his mule. He just was. He just

1:00:52.280 --> 1:00:55.640
<v Speaker 1>said he greeted him in Spanish and he said, are

1:00:55.680 --> 1:00:58.800
<v Speaker 1>those drugs? This is in the book. He he just

1:00:59.360 --> 1:01:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I think it was he just knew he had to

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<v Speaker 1>get the elephant, you know, the elephant in the room.

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<v Speaker 1>Pointed out. They stopped and bule they're ten ft apart

1:01:07.480 --> 1:01:11.400
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, and he says those drugs, and he said

1:01:11.440 --> 1:01:14.920
<v Speaker 1>they just shook their head yes. And he just said, well,

1:01:15.440 --> 1:01:17.760
<v Speaker 1>we're lying hunting. I guess we'll just go on. And

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<v Speaker 1>he went past him, went around him, and went on

1:01:20.680 --> 1:01:23.320
<v Speaker 1>and they get out of sight, and then he's kind

1:01:23.360 --> 1:01:26.760
<v Speaker 1>of like, holy cow. That was why he turns to Kelly,

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<v Speaker 1>and Kelly says, did you see the other eight guys

1:01:31.040 --> 1:01:34.520
<v Speaker 1>in the bushes? So there were two on the trail

1:01:35.040 --> 1:01:38.640
<v Speaker 1>and Warner never saw the other. I'm pretty sure it

1:01:38.680 --> 1:01:40.600
<v Speaker 1>was eight, that it may have been six, and two

1:01:40.680 --> 1:01:43.000
<v Speaker 1>to make eight, or or it may have been two

1:01:43.080 --> 1:01:45.240
<v Speaker 1>and eight. So there was this puddle in the road

1:01:45.560 --> 1:01:49.240
<v Speaker 1>and there were tracks that there were no tracks. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get into another one of these, but it

1:01:54.920 --> 1:01:57.880
<v Speaker 1>wasn't like no. But that may have saved his life

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<v Speaker 1>just being so nonchalant and praga addic about it, and

1:02:01.240 --> 1:02:03.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, he just he he just anywhere he goes,

1:02:03.680 --> 1:02:06.160
<v Speaker 1>he just kind of set the room at ease, you know,

1:02:06.320 --> 1:02:10.120
<v Speaker 1>just kind of got some drugs there and they're like, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciated the response of the drug dealers. They were

1:02:13.080 --> 1:02:21.120
<v Speaker 1>just like this is coffee stand up drug dealers. You know,

1:02:21.760 --> 1:02:26.120
<v Speaker 1>none of their words kind oh man. You can read

1:02:26.120 --> 1:02:28.560
<v Speaker 1>this book and learn more about it. But I love

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<v Speaker 1>the mule part him talking about mules. You know, I

1:02:32.160 --> 1:02:34.120
<v Speaker 1>meant what I said to like, if you hear me

1:02:34.200 --> 1:02:37.360
<v Speaker 1>talking good about mules, that means very little. When you

1:02:37.360 --> 1:02:40.919
<v Speaker 1>hear Warner Glenn talk about mules, he's not. I mean,

1:02:41.160 --> 1:02:43.760
<v Speaker 1>it's funny. I meant it very much what I said

1:02:43.760 --> 1:02:47.800
<v Speaker 1>when I joked about Instagram. It's like, uh, w warn

1:02:47.840 --> 1:02:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Glen is not trying to impress anybody. He just wants

1:02:50.240 --> 1:02:53.040
<v Speaker 1>to stay alive and he rides a mule. It was

1:02:53.040 --> 1:02:56.720
<v Speaker 1>pretty cool hearing him talk about that. Um, he really

1:02:56.760 --> 1:02:59.760
<v Speaker 1>loves those animals and really takes really really good care

1:02:59.800 --> 1:03:05.360
<v Speaker 1>of Also, what's what's so wild about being down there

1:03:05.360 --> 1:03:08.360
<v Speaker 1>on the border. You drive like ten or fifteen miles

1:03:08.360 --> 1:03:12.919
<v Speaker 1>of dirt roads to get to basically Warners Driveway, which

1:03:12.960 --> 1:03:15.680
<v Speaker 1>goes into the ranch, which it's a huge ranch. Like

1:03:15.720 --> 1:03:19.080
<v Speaker 1>he called himself a small time Arizona cattle farmer. I

1:03:19.120 --> 1:03:22.640
<v Speaker 1>don't know how big their ranches, but we're talking tens

1:03:22.680 --> 1:03:27.000
<v Speaker 1>of thousands of acres. Yeah, we're talking about like you know,

1:03:27.040 --> 1:03:31.600
<v Speaker 1>and they're small, small time ranchers. And the whole time

1:03:31.640 --> 1:03:36.720
<v Speaker 1>you're driving in there, you're driving east and directly to

1:03:36.840 --> 1:03:42.440
<v Speaker 1>the south is a huge metal wall, brand new. It was.

1:03:42.560 --> 1:03:44.760
<v Speaker 1>It was pretty wild. We took pictures over by the

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<v Speaker 1>wall and looked it over. The wild thing is is

1:03:48.160 --> 1:03:53.240
<v Speaker 1>that there were there's creeks that creeks and rivers that

1:03:53.280 --> 1:03:58.160
<v Speaker 1>have to flow from Arizona into Mexico. They just have

1:03:58.320 --> 1:04:03.840
<v Speaker 1>floodgates that are open, welded open, and so so when

1:04:03.880 --> 1:04:07.520
<v Speaker 1>we were there, Kelly was just like, yeah, it's it's

1:04:07.520 --> 1:04:10.640
<v Speaker 1>a great wall. They just come through the holes where

1:04:10.640 --> 1:04:13.800
<v Speaker 1>the Greeks go through. We were pulling into Warner Glenn's

1:04:13.880 --> 1:04:18.280
<v Speaker 1>driveway and we meet three Border Patrol trucks coming out

1:04:18.760 --> 1:04:21.120
<v Speaker 1>and Kelly's in front of us and we're following her.

1:04:21.200 --> 1:04:23.760
<v Speaker 1>I made mention of this, and Kelly gets out and

1:04:23.800 --> 1:04:26.840
<v Speaker 1>talks to the Border patrol, and the Border patrol drive

1:04:26.960 --> 1:04:29.800
<v Speaker 1>past us, and you know they're driving past you kind

1:04:29.800 --> 1:04:32.680
<v Speaker 1>of looking in there. What just kind of what's going on? Anyway,

1:04:32.840 --> 1:04:36.200
<v Speaker 1>They picked up six people like within a half mile

1:04:36.320 --> 1:04:39.080
<v Speaker 1>of their house that day, and they didn't think a

1:04:39.200 --> 1:04:42.760
<v Speaker 1>thing about it. Like Kelly was just like, yeah, I said,

1:04:42.800 --> 1:04:44.400
<v Speaker 1>what's going on and she said, oh, it was just

1:04:44.440 --> 1:04:46.560
<v Speaker 1>the Border Patrol. They just picked up some people over here.

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<v Speaker 1>And Uh, it's just interesting, just just it's just part

1:04:51.240 --> 1:04:54.640
<v Speaker 1>of life down there. You know. It just changes in

1:04:54.760 --> 1:04:58.080
<v Speaker 1>that dynamic of your life big time. And like I said,

1:04:58.120 --> 1:05:03.000
<v Speaker 1>his his neighbor was is murdered. That is crazy, but

1:05:03.360 --> 1:05:06.320
<v Speaker 1>that happened and that's their life. And yeah, you know,

1:05:06.400 --> 1:05:09.520
<v Speaker 1>for for me in Arkansas, it's a it's a headline,

1:05:09.600 --> 1:05:11.960
<v Speaker 1>or it's a news article, or it's something people argue

1:05:11.960 --> 1:05:15.560
<v Speaker 1>about one way or the other. That's their life, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>What felt Warner Glenn was classy enough, Warner Glenn, and

1:05:21.240 --> 1:05:23.960
<v Speaker 1>then they have opinions about stuff, just like anybody would.

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<v Speaker 1>You never Warner never said a derogatory word about the situation.

1:05:30.360 --> 1:05:34.200
<v Speaker 1>He never did about the immigration situation. He he The

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<v Speaker 1>only things that he said to me was he was

1:05:37.520 --> 1:05:43.200
<v Speaker 1>very concerned about it being a wildlife migration inhibitor because

1:05:43.240 --> 1:05:46.600
<v Speaker 1>they they want lines and jaguars coming across that border

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<v Speaker 1>and they can't get across that. They can't get across

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<v Speaker 1>that wall. And that was his That was the one

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<v Speaker 1>thing he opened up to me about. He said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're we're worried about it as far as migrations of

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<v Speaker 1>animals because they're they're in this wilderness truly. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's cattle, there's a few people, but I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much a wilderness, and they they their life is

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<v Speaker 1>revolved around hunting these lions and stuff, which doesn't I

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<v Speaker 1>just appreciated that because what you would have expected inside

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<v Speaker 1>of a polarized world is people down there to be

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<v Speaker 1>this or that, and he men. Actually what I saw

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<v Speaker 1>inside of him was some some empathy for them as people.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, they're they're will turn people

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<v Speaker 1>in when they say I mean, they're just they they

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<v Speaker 1>understand the law of the land, but they also I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like, had some empathy towards the human aspects of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that fits with the other things that we've

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<v Speaker 1>learned about Warner Glinn, that he's like an iceberg. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there's thoughts, I'm sure there's opinions, but it

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<v Speaker 1>really does say a lot about a man who can

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<v Speaker 1>just you don't have to see all that Well, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got nine tents that that's covered, and you've got one

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<v Speaker 1>tenth that people can see. And I think it says

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about a person's integrity to just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>be who you are. And I just thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>very telling when when asked about the wall, that his

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<v Speaker 1>opinion of the wall was that there used to be

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<v Speaker 1>an eight strand barbed wire fence there with t posts

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<v Speaker 1>every twelve feet apart, and it was a good fence.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you know, it's an old fence and it

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<v Speaker 1>needed keeping up. And that was pretty much it was.

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<v Speaker 1>I think about the wall, because like, it's pretty good fence,

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<v Speaker 1>back strand barbed wire. Oh man, let's talk about this

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<v Speaker 1>structural well and then he and then he told me

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<v Speaker 1>he told me they put a during the during the

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<v Speaker 1>early two thousand's, they put up a vehicle barrier, which

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<v Speaker 1>is like a big metal drift type fence that's low

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<v Speaker 1>like animals could go through it. And he said they

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<v Speaker 1>would just build ramps and ramp over it. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I think the new wall is like it's thirty ft tall, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>six by six posts in deep concrete. The six bus

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<v Speaker 1>six posts probably are four to five to six inches apart.

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<v Speaker 1>They four like this, probably four. So envision a six

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<v Speaker 1>by six square tube that goes thirty ft straight up

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<v Speaker 1>in the air, and then there's another one four inches.

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<v Speaker 1>Only the skinniest of lines can get through. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>think what hit me was you said, whatever you look at,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever the angle there, there's only one Warner Glenn. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I think like as even his daughter

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<v Speaker 1>was talking and he's getting older and you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>he said about that dog that's gonna pass, maybe this

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<v Speaker 1>will be our last winner together. I was I was

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<v Speaker 1>doing I was doing the dishes, and usually I listened

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<v Speaker 1>to your podcast when I'm doing the dishes, and like

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<v Speaker 1>immediately it kind of I got a little lump in

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<v Speaker 1>my throat. One am I And obviously I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>this man, but I think that's a rare man. And

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<v Speaker 1>when the world loses a man like that, it loses

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<v Speaker 1>something of great value. And there's just not too many

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<v Speaker 1>people who can be in and live in a very

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<v Speaker 1>complex sitch suation. We're talking about immigration, we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>conserving wildlife, we're talking about an intergenerational family and business

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<v Speaker 1>and his granddaughter and how did the sixth generation, how

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<v Speaker 1>do they do that with her and do that well?

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<v Speaker 1>And all these things. He's the same man and he

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<v Speaker 1>does it well and everyone is blessed because of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and when he passes it will be a loss. Yeah, yeah, Daniel,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you hit it right on the head because

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what I know. I felt, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pretty sure Clay did. It was like he's like a

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<v Speaker 1>gem that you don't want to lose, and it's that's

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<v Speaker 1>just life. But and the simplicity of his life, how

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<v Speaker 1>he's able to to maneuver himself, his family inside a

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<v Speaker 1>very complex world that who would have most people chasing

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<v Speaker 1>their tails and a lot of turmoil and that type

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<v Speaker 1>of thing chaos inside of the family. You don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>that with that, there's a there's a there's been a

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<v Speaker 1>foundation built in that family that while all this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>is going on around him, they know who they are

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<v Speaker 1>and they know what they're called to do on that

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<v Speaker 1>ranch and how they're supposed to live, and um, it's

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<v Speaker 1>given a lot of stability. Well, I look forward to

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<v Speaker 1>to telling more Kelly's story. She I said it. We

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<v Speaker 1>could have made a Burgary podcast just about Kelly for real.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a neat, neat lady in in a veteran dry

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<v Speaker 1>ground line. We didn't even talked about lion hunting. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the whole, the whole aspect of being a dry

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<v Speaker 1>ground lion hunter is pretty amazing. And that's what the

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<v Speaker 1>next a lot of the next podcast is gonna be about,

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<v Speaker 1>because that is one of those things that unless you

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<v Speaker 1>understand it, you have no context of why that is special.

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<v Speaker 1>And so if if you if you value North American hunting,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to know what dry ground lion hunting is

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<v Speaker 1>super super unique, super difficult. Pretty much you got to

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<v Speaker 1>dedicate your life to it to be good at it.

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<v Speaker 1>And Warner Glenn is known as, and we use this phrase,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best in the world. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>not we're only dry ground lion hunting on this side

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<v Speaker 1>of the planet for the most part. Um, so you

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<v Speaker 1>could say best in the country, best in the nation.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like the NFL being the world champions

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, wait a minute, but we didn't play

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<v Speaker 1>anybody in Italy? Did I thought? When Warner Clinton said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that was one time when Kelly got hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>he said in there like that was one time when

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<v Speaker 1>she got bit by line all right, did you like

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<v Speaker 1>that segue? Did you think it was funny? When I

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<v Speaker 1>when he said that was just one of the times

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<v Speaker 1>she got her I don't want to tell you about

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<v Speaker 1>the other. And then I said, oh, sounds interested. Kelly's like,

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<v Speaker 1>did that tell you I got bit by? What? She

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<v Speaker 1>didn't tell us too? And I don't know that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to include it just because I mean, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a long story. She got like straight up just dang

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<v Speaker 1>there killed on a mule two years ago. She doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>even remember what happened. She just was like I was

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<v Speaker 1>riding the mule and next thing I know, I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>the hospital. Like she literally doesn't know what happen. There's

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<v Speaker 1>so many they were they were catching, basically catching these

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<v Speaker 1>like rank cattle, like they turned these cattle loose on

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<v Speaker 1>these big open sections and they have leases, some on

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<v Speaker 1>public land and some on their land. And they were

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<v Speaker 1>rounding up cattle and like you know, roping and running

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<v Speaker 1>through brush and basically she got raked off of a mule,

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<v Speaker 1>went over backwards and just blacked out. And uh, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember how they got her out of there in

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<v Speaker 1>the specifics of the injury, but like she's had some

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<v Speaker 1>pretty major stuff happened over the years. But you and

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<v Speaker 1>him both are so contradictory about how safe these mules are. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you said that, because every broken bone in

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<v Speaker 1>our kids lives with the exception of when this summer

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<v Speaker 1>that just happened has been on le okay, and that

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<v Speaker 1>that like really yeah, somebody could say, hey, Clay, you

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<v Speaker 1>say mules are safe, because Warner says mules are safe,

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<v Speaker 1>And the next thing, Kelly's getting tore up by mule.

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<v Speaker 1>The quite animal is inherently dangerous, no matter if it's

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<v Speaker 1>a horse or a mule. So these things could like

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<v Speaker 1>the spooking of the like a mule will spook, a

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<v Speaker 1>mule will fall over, a mule will hurt you, a

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<v Speaker 1>mule will kick you. A mule will do everything a

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<v Speaker 1>horse would do to you, maybe worse, but they're typically safer.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is where we always in in our family.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know cars are also dangerous. Yes, that's our argument.

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<v Speaker 1>Most dangerous thing you did to day was driver here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what a mule is, no problem. No, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you all. Mike, it's been great to have you

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<v Speaker 1>been to be here. Ye, Isaac, good to have you, Brent,

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<v Speaker 1>good to have you missed you better call us all

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<v Speaker 1>out now. Yeah, you're welcome, widely. Moving on. It's our

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<v Speaker 1>first first time to not have a song. The first

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<v Speaker 1>time that I have a song might be and I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's there might be a really good song next week.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the first couple you didn't have a song,

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<v Speaker 1>the first the first couple of Riddens, did you maybe Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember. Since since there's been songs, since since

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<v Speaker 1>the songs and songs have been song all right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>keep the wild place as wild. That's where the bears

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<v Speaker 1>live down and no