1 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're living in a post 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: June first world. I'm Greg Rosenthal here with my friend 3 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Nick Schuck. He's back off the road after going to 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: EA Sports in Orlando to check out Madden. Big, big 5 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: weekend for you, Nick. 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know, you know, you know. 7 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 3: I'm a gamer of sorts, and it's always fun every 8 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 3: year to go down to EA and check out the 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 3: new titles. 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: And now that they got too, it's two days. 11 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 3: Of virtual football glory and it was a fantastic time 12 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 3: with lots of information game that you will be hearing 13 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 3: about from me in the coming days and weeks. 14 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how Nick got on this 15 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: list that he's like a gamer influencer, but it's pretty cool. 16 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 4: Do they pay for your flight to go down. 17 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 3: There or no, well to keep it I guess kosher 18 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 3: or whatever. We split it down the middle so they 19 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 3: cover a little bit. We covered the rest interesting. 20 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: We'll do some news, just little bits with our next 21 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: full week of OTA's you know coming up right now 22 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: with the mini camps are coming up next week, and 23 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: then we'll talk about a couple players that we think 24 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: are going to be hype bunnies. This year. To wrap 25 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: up the show, after we hear a little bit from 26 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: Nick about his Madden trip. Well, we'll start with news 27 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: on the forty nine ers making a trade. How about 28 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: Bryce Huff, who we mentioned last week not showing up 29 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: to Eagles OTAs there was a reason for that. He 30 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: is going to the San Francisco forty nine Ers, who 31 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 1: have been looking a little thin in terms of their 32 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: defensive line. They get an edge rusher from the Eagles. 33 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: Not sure on the compensation. It's not gonna be much 34 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: whatever it is, but the money is interesting to me. 35 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: The Eagles will pay nine million dollars of his roughly 36 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: seventeen million dollars guaranteed salary just to make him go away, 37 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: and the forty nine Ers get a rotational pass rusher 38 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: at worst and only pay him eight million dollars. 39 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 4: What do you think about this movie? 40 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 3: Smart move for the Niners to capitalize on what appeared 41 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 3: to be a situation which the Eagles wanted to move 42 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 3: on from Huff for one reason or another. Now, this 43 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 3: has been a bit of a mass exodus up on 44 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 3: the defensive front for the Eagles this offseason, but it 45 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 3: was one that we anticipated. I didn't quite expect Huff 46 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 3: to be involved, but they also made the addition of 47 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 3: Zizogulari in the offseason, and they have other pieces there 48 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 3: that they were preparing for this scenario, so it makes 49 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 3: sense for them to get compensation back. And for the Niners, 50 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 3: they were pretty desperate at the position, so it's a 51 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 3: low risk, potentially higher reward addition for them. 52 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: So I like it for both sides. 53 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 3: It's pretty rare that we get a deal at this 54 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 3: time of the year where you're like, oh, makes sense for. 55 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: Both well, I referred to the June first thing. Yeah, 56 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: now it makes sense for them because they would have 57 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: taken a huge cap hit. I mean, Bryce Huff was 58 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: a big time free agent signing a year ago one 59 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: of Howie's big swings and misses, and he takes a 60 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: lot of swings, and so one thing I like about 61 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: the Eagles is that when they missed, they move off 62 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: it right away. And they only have three million dollars 63 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: in dead money because they waited until after June first. 64 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: It would have been twelve million before that, so it's 65 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: not taking up much of the cap. In fact, they 66 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: actually save four million dollars in cap and when you're 67 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: a good organization that doesn't mind ownership paying a lot 68 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: of cash to get rid of problems. They are paying 69 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: actual cash, like the Eagles actually have to pay nine 70 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: million dollars for him to go away, but you might 71 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: have even undersold it with you know, a nice upside 72 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 1: for them. I mean, they're paying eight million dollars. It's 73 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: it's so hard to get free agents. Did you know 74 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 1: that Bryce Off The last time he was with Robert Sala, 75 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: who was the Jets head coach and is now the 76 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers defensive coordinator. Bryce Uff had sixty eight 77 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: pressures and literally led the league in pressure rate according 78 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: to Next Gen Stats. And you get him for eight 79 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: million bucks. It's a system that he'll make more sense. 80 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: And for whatever reason, he just could not get on 81 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: the field for the Eagles was a total bust. When 82 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: he did get on the field, he didn't look good. 83 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if he had a bad offseason or 84 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: he just didn't fit that scheme. But pass rushing should 85 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: travel and it'll help them because they have Nick Bosa, 86 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: of course, but they also have Mikel Williams, their first 87 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: round draft pick. 88 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 4: They brought in more of a run stopper. 89 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: They have yetur grossmatos and suddenly they look a little 90 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: more like a good forty nine Ers pass rusher that 91 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: we remember in the past. It's very thin at defensive tackle. 92 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: But I think this was a move that a smart 93 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: team makes. I think the forty nine ers are going 94 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: to be better this year than people. 95 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, they threw some draft capital of the defensive interior 96 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,679 Speaker 3: as well, so this is it was a transitional offseason 97 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: for the upfront. They knew that was going to be 98 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 3: the case when with Javon Hargrave, that whole thing, you know, 99 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 3: them splitting signs. But I also think it's kind of 100 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 3: a funny examination of what you just described, which is 101 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 3: how situation matters and scheme matters. But like if we 102 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 3: go back a year ago, it was Hassan Reddick ends 103 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 3: up with the Jets, Bryce Huff ends up with the Eagles, 104 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 3: a bit of a one for one swap, and neither 105 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 3: The most we got out of it was Reddick's protracted 106 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 3: contract dispute with them. Otherwise we didn't really get much 107 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 3: of anything out of either of them. 108 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Huff is much younger, so you just figure 109 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: he can bounce back than Reddick. Although I think Reddick 110 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: would bounce back this year too, but it doesn't leave 111 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: the Eagles a little thin. The Eagles are known for 112 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: having such a deep defense to line in pass rush. 113 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: Their pass rushers right now are Nolan Smith, an emerging 114 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 1: player but still young and not a superstar. Jaylexon had 115 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: a nice Super Bowl but a third round pick from 116 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: a year ago that didn't play much. And then Josh 117 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: Ucha and Azizo Jalari, who you mentioned two reclamation projects, 118 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: So a little thinner than usual. 119 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 4: But I like the move really for. 120 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: Both sides, because Huff clearly I had no future there. 121 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: All Right. We mentioned Stefan Diggs last week. I'm going 122 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: back to this now because shook Diggs did show up 123 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: to OTA's on Monday. Josh McDaniels did not sound any 124 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: alarms about Diggs's future, kind of downplayed the boat video, 125 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: which we discussed a little more at length last week. 126 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: We don't need to go over that again, but I 127 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: wanted to bring it up because Scott Zolac, who who we've. 128 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 4: Mentioned plenty of times on this show, the radio announcer 129 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 4: for the. 130 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: Patriots who likes to pop off, and Michael Felder on 131 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: their radio show, they're talking all week about Diggs talking 132 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: about maybe he's gonna get cut. You have not seen 133 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: any credible reporter say that in New England. I think 134 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: there's a reason for that. Greg Badard, for instance, of 135 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: Boston Sports Journal, said the Patriots were not gonna cut 136 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs because of this. I think it's something where 137 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: he'll have a stern talking to Nick Schuck. But I 138 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: did want to put that out there that all this 139 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: getting caught talk maybe sounds like they got nothing to 140 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: talk about in New England because there's no sports going 141 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: on other than the Red Sox thinking and just needing 142 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: to talk about something. 143 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, thank you Celtics for you know, getting injured 144 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 3: and falling out of the playoffs to kind of affect that. 145 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's also I think a good example of 146 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,799 Speaker 3: how one beat can get so trained in the ways 147 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 3: of an old regime that they just expect things to 148 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 3: happen because Mike Rabel's down back and the Patriots no 149 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: nonsense type of organization, but failed to realize that it's 150 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five and that you are the Patriots trying 151 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 3: to come back from the seller, and that you could 152 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 3: use a player like Diggs as long as he's able 153 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 3: to come back healthy at some point this year. 154 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: Right, And it's not like they have him been happy 155 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: with his recovery from his surgery. And you know, he 156 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: is known for his work ethic throughout his career. Now 157 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: you know when you have missed three substances on video 158 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: that it's not a good. 159 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 3: It's not great, man, it's just boats. Stop being on 160 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 3: boats where videos are being taken. Do like comedians do 161 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 3: at the shows. Put everybody's phones and bags. 162 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: Lock them away, help yourself out. It's not great. 163 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: It could literally get you in trouble with the NFL 164 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: and the and the drug policy. So I'm sure they 165 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: spoke to him about it, but it does sound like 166 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: something where it's like, okay, this time, just can we 167 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: can we make some better decisions And it's more like 168 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: a stern warning from a teacher, and the next time 169 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: it happens, it could be troubled. This is a one 170 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: year deal, by the way, for Stefan Diggs. I think 171 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: that's been lost in the shovel because it was counted 172 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: as three year, sixty six million dollars. If it doesn't 173 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: go well, they can get out of it after this year. 174 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: But I do think they're going to play it out 175 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: this year. Speaking of contracts, Quessi Adolfo Mensa, the Minnesota 176 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: Vikings general manager, got an extension over the weekend. Any 177 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: thoughts on where the Vikings are. We're at them giving 178 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: their their GM now of what I think, it's been 179 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: four years now an extension right now? 180 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, time flies because about four years, it feels 181 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: like it's been shorter than that. 182 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 3: But it's also I just think it's kind of funny 183 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 3: because the Vikings are doing all the right things for 184 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 3: a team that succeeded like they did last year, and 185 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: they went into an offseason despite winning all those games 186 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 3: last year, with a bit of uncertainty. It started with 187 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 3: the Sam Darnold situation. We kind of knew how that 188 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 3: was going to play out, and it did play out 189 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 3: as we expected. It continued with Kevin O'Connell not having 190 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 3: an extension. They get him won, and then it comes 191 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 3: down to Quincy and he gets his done as well. 192 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 3: So it's step by step, trusting the process. They get 193 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 3: everything done. It makes a lot of sense. But again 194 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 3: this league, as we get older and the longer we 195 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 3: work in this business, we realize the patience just continues 196 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 3: to thin out, and this is a pressure pack season 197 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 3: for them because they're putting all their chips into the 198 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 3: center of the table on JJ McCarthy and especially coming 199 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 3: off of how they played last year. Not saying that 200 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 3: they're not going to live up to those expectations, but 201 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 3: there is a lot of pressure on them. So I 202 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 3: guess it's good to get that extension done now as 203 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 3: opposed to letting it linger into the season. 204 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. And you know what, the Wolfs, who took over 205 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: this ownership from what was really a rough group before 206 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: Red McCombs if you wanted to go back, have been 207 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: very patient. I think in general with their coaches, it's 208 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: been a well run organization. They got that stadium built. 209 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: I did find it interesting that the coach in the GM, 210 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: the extensions came so far apart, right, it actually is 211 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 1: more than three years. This will be going into his 212 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: fourth season, and there was some buzz of you know, 213 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 1: are those two guys always on the same page. I 214 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 1: do think Chaos has more juice in that building. For 215 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: whatever it's worth, Quesi's drafts have not been good. They 216 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 1: have not been a good drafting team. They've made some 217 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: good moves in free agency. Some of the players that 218 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: were there before. They obviously have made great coaching hires 219 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: with with koc and Brian Flores. So they really need 220 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy to hit because that that's a QUESTI guy. 221 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: But they're on the same page there, speaking of, you know, 222 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: guys looking for contracts. A dophamento was Von Miller is too. 223 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: He was quoted telling Mike Cleaes, who's covered the Broncos 224 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: for a lot long time, that he's quote definitely playing 225 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five. It was a reminder to me 226 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: that von Miller is a free agent at all. I 227 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: wonder does he have any information that he's got contract 228 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 1: offers out there and he's waiting that that maybe is 229 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: what that indicates to me, because he did not look 230 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: great last year. 231 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 3: Nick No, I mean, he hasn't looked great over the 232 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 3: last few years because he's been hurt or just in 233 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 3: the shadows when he was in his final years in Buffalo. 234 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 3: I mean it kind of I made this comparison with 235 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 3: the Aaron Rodgers situation on and on over the last 236 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 3: few months, but this kind of does reek of a 237 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 3: Michael Strahan situation where it's like, I'm gonna ride this out, 238 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 3: maybe not go to camp, or just show up at 239 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 3: some point in camp and just see who wants a 240 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 3: Jadavian Clowney situation. 241 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: He's done that before in the offseason. 242 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 4: And he's a free agent too. 243 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 3: He doesn't quite as have as much leverage, I think, 244 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 3: as Clowney did maybe three years ago, but I could 245 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 3: still see someone taking a flyer on him because you 246 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 3: can never have enough edge rushing help, and if you 247 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 3: get him cheap enough, then it's not even a risk. 248 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 3: It's just like, all right, let's throw another veteran in 249 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 3: here and try and get a little bit better. 250 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: This is a guy who has made about as much 251 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: as any defensive player has in the NFL over the 252 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: last ten years, a guy who for a future project 253 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: was looking at his resume and looking at him closer. 254 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: I mean, he's almost obviously a future Hall of Famer 255 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: and is in the upper tier really of pass rushers 256 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: over the last ten plus years. Is he gonna want 257 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: to play for just a few million dollars to go 258 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: chase a ring, because I think that's what he's going 259 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: to have to do. Then go make a team, because 260 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 1: at his age coming off in a bit injury. But 261 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: he says he's quote definitely playing, so maybe he has 262 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: an offer out there. You know who does not have 263 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,719 Speaker 1: an offer? It's Bill Belichick on the Manning Cast. I 264 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: take that back, I spoke incorrectly. He probably did have 265 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: an offer shook, but he will not be on the 266 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: Manning Cast next year. I find this interesting. Peyton Manning 267 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 1: was at some golf event and he mentioned publicly that 268 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick will not be part of the telecast. I 269 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: mentioned that partly because the last time this came up 270 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: at all, his agent, for instance, said He's gonna still 271 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: be doing all this media stuff, including the Manning Cast 272 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 1: this year. But maybe when push came to show, he 273 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: realized he did not really have time to devote like 274 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: five hours every Monday Night to the Manning Cast. 275 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 4: So will you miss the Belichick era on the Manning 276 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 4: Cast a little? 277 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 2: But honestly, I'm not a Manning Cast guy. 278 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 3: Not that I don't like the interviews and everything else, 279 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 3: but I prefer to stick to the traditional broadcast and. 280 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: Do my job as the guy on Monday Night football. 281 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 3: But I will say that this is an example of 282 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 3: how the Belichick tenure at North Carolina has always has 283 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 3: already gotten weird like it was. You can show up 284 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 3: with all this pomp and circumstance, there's all the focus 285 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 3: on his girlfriend and all the things he's doing outside 286 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 3: of the program. It's almost as if he's had to 287 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 3: take a look in the mirror or UNC officials have 288 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 3: had to meet with him and be like, hey, reel 289 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 3: it in. You're our coach, you're the CEO of the program. 290 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 3: We're paying you to do that, not be this persona. 291 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 3: So it makes a lot of sense as a coach 292 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 3: who still has to handle recruiting and oversee a D 293 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 3: one football program that he's not on a Monday night 294 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 3: show multiple times per year. 295 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,239 Speaker 1: Right, you could look at it as it was good recruiting. 296 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: I became less of a Manning cast guy last year. 297 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: I really like it, But when we're doing these recaps 298 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: on Monday Night, I'm with you, it shook. I feel 299 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: like I get a little less locked in if I'm 300 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: watching the Manning cast. But it was cool. I watched 301 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: it a decent amount. He will he will not be 302 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: there inside the NFL has an uncertain future, but I'd 303 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: be shocked if he was part of that. Maybe he'll 304 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: still still do the. 305 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 3: I liked him on that that was a better example 306 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 3: of who Bill Belichick could be on camera and inside 307 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 3: the NFL when he could sit down and go through 308 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 3: tape with you know, chatout Josenko and and the rest 309 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 3: of the guys and kind of explain what's going on 310 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 3: here and get back. And it felt like I was 311 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 3: in a film room with the guys after a Sunday 312 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 3: game and he was getting ready to tear somebody apart 313 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 3: from making a mistake. 314 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, and they they mentioned it's not coming back to 315 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 4: the CW. 316 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: So right now it's a little unclear if and how 317 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: that show will exist into next year. 318 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 4: TJ. 319 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: Why we just talked about Von Miller future Hall of Famer. 320 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: Do you think TJ. Watt is a future Hall of 321 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: Famer if let's say he doesn't do a time in 322 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: the rest of his. 323 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: Career, Yeah, already, Yeah, he'll be in there. 324 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 3: Defensive Player of the Year kind of puts you in 325 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 3: the consideration right away. I think the production has been 326 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 3: consistent enough. I hope that that's not the last that 327 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 3: we've seen of him, because he's. 328 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 4: Not the last, but like it, for some reason, it 329 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 4: fell off. 330 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 2: So I was just trying to be Yeah, no, I 331 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 2: get your transition. 332 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: I understand it. 333 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 2: I'm picking up what you're putting down. I get it. 334 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 2: But at the same time, it's like, hey, like I'm 335 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: worried about the. 336 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 3: Whole He's the peace sign or whatever it was on 337 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 3: social media and Steelers fans are worried about whether he's 338 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 3: gonna leave. 339 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 2: Do we trade him? 340 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 3: Somebody sent me one of those graphics off of some 341 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 3: social media site the other day where it was like TJ. 342 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 3: Watt for a twenty twenty five first round pick, without 343 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 3: you know, realizing that the twenty twenty five tracks is 344 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 3: already coming gone. Like this is where we're at the 345 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 3: off season right now. I hope he stays with the 346 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 3: Steelers for the rest of his career and finishes strong 347 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 3: and ends up, you know, cementing that Hall of Fame resume, 348 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 3: because I think he's there. 349 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not at OTA's right now. 350 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: Mark Coboli, who's covered them for a while, set on 351 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: his podcast if the Steelers have made an offer to TJ. Watt. 352 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: So that's why I'm bringing that up. He's looking for 353 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: a new contract. It's not the right time of year 354 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: to make a trade. It just doesn't make any sense 355 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: to me. If teams were more aggressive about this stuff, 356 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been that crazy. 357 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 4: If you could have gotten a Hall for TJ. 358 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: Watt before the draft and you wanted to really invest 359 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: in your young players at the position. Nick Herberg and 360 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: Alex Hismith are awesome and you're pretty deep there, but 361 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: at this time of year, you got to just give 362 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: him that money. And the bar has been set. Miles Garrett, 363 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: Max Crosby, they're all roughly in the same ballpark age 364 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: wise as TJ. Watt and I went through his career, 365 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: and that's why I asked about Hall of Fame, Like 366 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: I realized he could retire today and he's in the 367 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. He's been Top five and Defensive Player 368 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: of the Year voting time, yeah, four times, Top three 369 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: three times, he won it once. He's been First Team 370 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: OPRO four times, like people have made the Hall of 371 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: Fame with much less, and so that's an all time 372 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: great And that's why that negotiation is tricky because you 373 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: got to just pay the premium for TJ. Wat. I 374 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:13,479 Speaker 1: don't care if he's thirty. 375 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 3: But what I what I hate about it is the 376 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 3: fact that he has to come after Miles Garrett and 377 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 3: Max Crosby, because the Steelers over the last few years 378 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 3: have invested a ton of money into the defense. It's 379 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 3: been like the most expensive defense in the NFL, and 380 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 3: I worry that there won't be enough space to pay 381 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 3: him well enough or as he deserves like it. You know, 382 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 3: you reset the market with a Miles Garrett deal. I 383 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 3: don't feel one hundred percent confident that the Steelers would 384 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 3: give TJ. Watt more money than Miles Garrett. And at 385 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 3: that point, it feels unfair to him because he's been 386 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 3: just as good, if not better than Miles Garrett and 387 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 3: for most of his career. 388 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: I mean their and necond defense. 389 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 4: From a Brown Sky respect words due. 390 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 2: I mean, Miles Garrett is a hell of a player, 391 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 2: but TJ. 392 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 3: Watt is too, And I just worry that he's not 393 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 3: going to get compensated as fairly if he's going to 394 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 3: stay in Pittsburgh and he's going into the last year 395 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 3: of a deal, so it gets a little uncertain, and 396 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 3: I just don't like the vibe around it around it 397 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 3: right now. But then again, it's a product of the 398 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 3: business set in which they build these clubs. 399 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: If we got really bored in the offseason, I could 400 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: do a rankings of like holdouts that I actually think 401 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: would last the longest, and TJ. Watt would be near 402 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: the top if if he wants to push it because 403 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: of everything you just said, well said, He's made so 404 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: many big plays, they've been in big games. I'm still 405 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: a Garrett guy. I think it's a decent amount. But 406 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: his force fumble like he's been top five and forced 407 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: fumbles five times. TJ Watt's. 408 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 2: Except for the end of last years like. 409 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: No one's ever no one's ever done that. Pay the 410 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: man his money. Just a couple of little Ota notes. 411 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: I just wanted to mention to keep everyone that listens 412 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: up to date. John new Smith, we talked about him 413 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: possibly getting traded to the Steelers speaking of Pittsburgh on 414 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: Friday's show. He has made it clear through his agent 415 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: he wants to stay in Miami, so they're going to 416 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: try to work something out there. We'll see if that happened. CJ. 417 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: Stroud was not throwing at practice last week. 418 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 4: He might be back this week. 419 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: They're really downplaying it, but is a pectoral issue. And 420 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: then Hunter Renfro, who's been at Panthers camp, has quote 421 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: made huge strides every week coming back from an injury 422 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: and illness, and just so something to watch in the spring. 423 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna keep an eye on that. Let's tuck 424 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 1: a little Madden though, Chuck, you were down in Orlando. 425 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: They announced that Saquon Barkley was going to be on 426 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: the cover of Madden, and they picked the picture that 427 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: everyone would have expected them to pick. Adam Schefter got 428 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: the news first. I guess he must be a friend 429 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: of the EA family. And yes, it's Saquon Barkley on 430 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: the cover jumping over poor Jerry and Jones of the Jaguars, 431 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: who now has to be on the cover of Madden 432 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: getting jumped over for the rest of his life. 433 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 2: That's Britte Well. 434 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 3: I mean that photo itself is staged to make it 435 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 3: look good with studio lighting and everything. But they're replicating 436 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 3: what happened in real life, the play that we all saw, 437 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 3: the play that we discussed on NFL Daily, you know, 438 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 3: hours after it happened during that week. And you know what, 439 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 3: And do you think Schefter got the news first, brother, 440 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 3: I got the news days ago, okay, but of course 441 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 3: exactly Wait, so I didn't look closely? 442 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 4: Is that that's not Jerry and Jones. That's not an 443 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 4: actual game. 444 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 3: No, those photos are staged to look good on the cover, 445 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 3: but they were essentially recreating what happened in real life, 446 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,479 Speaker 3: just with better lighting, you know, so it looks more 447 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 3: cinematic and everything else. But the I'm at the presentation 448 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 3: on Friday and they're like, does anybody have a guess 449 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 3: about who the cover would be? And everyone's like Saquon 450 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 3: and they're like, oh, surprise, it's yeah, Saquon, Like, there's 451 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 3: no better pairing for a video game and an athlete 452 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 3: who made an incredible play than Saquon Barkley in the 453 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 3: reverse hurdle to put in Madden, which, by the way, 454 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 3: last season they had that ability to perform that you know, 455 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 3: type of hurdle in the game with Saquon within a 456 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 3: week of it happening, which is a credit to their 457 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 3: their team getting that in the game. But yeah, they're 458 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 3: very excited about the game and about having Saquon on it, 459 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 3: and it's just the tip of the iceberg for what 460 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 3: they're about to reveal in the coming weeks. 461 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: Oh interesting little teas a lot of uh. I was, 462 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: I guess not surprised that this was the cover because 463 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: an account on social last week that was a fake 464 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: shifter that was like Adam one shifter, but there was 465 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: like a one where the tea should be said, this 466 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: was going to be the Madden cover. 467 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 4: It was a slightly different picture. 468 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: But good guest by them faked out me and my 469 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,479 Speaker 1: son for about thirty seconds, and then I gave him 470 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: a lesson in see, you gotta be careful. There's these 471 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: fake accounts out there. It's not real, all right, kids 472 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: coming up, It's got to be very tricky. Let's talk 473 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: though about Madden. You were down there, what can you 474 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 1: tell us? 475 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 5: Like? 476 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: What what did you find interesting being down in Orlando? 477 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: For the gamers out there, I am curious. 478 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 2: First off, the level of excitement. So I like to 479 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 2: compare year by year. 480 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 3: I mean, that's how we all go through life with 481 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 3: contextual experiences and how he applied going forward. And last year, 482 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 3: at this time, it was all about the return of 483 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 3: the college football game, and they tiered it last year 484 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 3: with Madden was first, college football was second. They saved 485 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 3: the biggest and best for last with you know, new 486 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 3: items and everything else to talk about. 487 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 2: This year is reversed. 488 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 3: This year was college football was Thursday. Madden was Friday, 489 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 3: and as soon as I saw that, I thought they 490 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 3: might have something up their sleeve for Madden. As we 491 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 3: wrapped up college football on Thursday, all the people that 492 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 3: you know are working on both sides with EA, between 493 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: college and Madden what they call their American Football Division 494 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 3: as a whole, We're so excited. They they looked at 495 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 3: me and they were like, just wait till we show 496 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 3: you what we got coming tomorrow. 497 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, okay, And I'm a. 498 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 3: Cynic, you know, I'm skeptical, So I was like, all right, 499 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 3: we'll wait and see. We get in that presentation and 500 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 3: they were loaded with new features. I don't know how 501 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 3: now it is part of they're able to, you know, 502 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 3: work on multi year initiatives with the game. Now they 503 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 3: do have a bit of a longer runway to try 504 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 3: to improve the game over the long term. And now 505 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 3: you're kind of seeing the fruits of that labor start to, 506 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 3: you know, become realized, this is something that I've talked 507 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 3: with these developers about, you know, sitting there in person, 508 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 3: whether it was in Redwood City or in Orlando, over 509 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 3: the last three years and thought, we know what's coming 510 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 3: three years from now, we're working on you know, X, Y, 511 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 3: and Z that we can't tell you, but it's going 512 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 3: to change the game for the better in. 513 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 2: The long run. 514 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 3: Their biggest goal is to be the most realistic sports 515 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 3: simulation on the market, not just football, but sports, and 516 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 3: I think that the approach they took to this game 517 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 3: this year without revealing a ton of details, is getting 518 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 3: them much closer to that. 519 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 2: They've attacked it in a number of different areas. 520 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 3: Some of the things they've already talked about, including includes, 521 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 3: you know, the way that they are approaching coaching, which 522 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 3: in the past you would make your coach and you 523 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 3: would just kind of play through seasons. 524 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 2: It's different now. 525 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 3: There are different ways to customize and game plan and 526 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 3: everything else that might blow your mind. And as soon 527 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 3: as they go through all these details with franchise mode 528 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 3: and everything else, Whi's got a massive overhaul, the biggest 529 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 3: in a decade, then they I'm thinking there's no way. 530 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 3: They also put this type of effort into their other modes, 531 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 3: and sure enough Superstar has a ton of great news 532 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 3: stuff coming to it as well. So you know, I 533 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 3: don't mean to sound like a like a shill of sorts, 534 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 3: but I'm very I'm very excited for people to see 535 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 3: this and to get my hands on it further than 536 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 3: I did when I was playing it at EA on Friday, 537 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 3: because if everything goes right, this will be a big 538 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 3: leap four of them. 539 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 2: And again, if everything goes right technicality, you know. 540 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: You played it. 541 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 4: Wait, so you played it, you know if it went 542 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 4: right or a lot. 543 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: Of fun playing it. 544 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 3: But I wasn't there for I was only playing it 545 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 3: for about an hour and a half for I to 546 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 3: go catch a flight, So we need more time. 547 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 2: On it for me to really figure it out. 548 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 3: But if everything goes right and they can avoid some 549 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 3: of the pitfalls that come with game development, people are 550 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 3: going to be very pleased with this, and it'll be 551 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 3: a sign of them putting significant effort into this game, 552 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 3: and it's what fans have wanted for a long time. 553 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: Okay, good to hear. And I think them being so excited, 554 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: and maybe your excitement and skepticism might be partly because 555 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: I think people can get in a little sick of 556 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: the Maddens lately that they needed it, that needed a 557 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: little juice, not like obviously it it's well known and 558 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: this is a video game like industry wide thing. People 559 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,959 Speaker 1: are still playing and buying Madden, but I think there 560 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: was Madden fatigue. 561 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 2: I would say, well, okay, let me say this, how 562 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 2: does Walker play Madden? 563 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: A lot of in Superstar? A lot in Superstar. But 564 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 1: I mean he plays with his friends, He plays in franchise, 565 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: but he plays in everything. 566 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 2: But there's something coming to Superstar that you're gonna watch 567 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 2: him play all the time. Okay, with his friends. That's 568 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 2: one thing. 569 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 3: People like me who play franchise, who play in leagues 570 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 3: or single players. I have a longtime friend who plays 571 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 3: a single player Madden Franchise ten fifteen, twenty five seasons deep. 572 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 3: The problem was that it was just formulaic and got 573 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 3: kind of old after well, you had to use your imagination. 574 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 3: A lot of that has been replaced with new mechanisms 575 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 3: in the game that I think will keep people engaged longer, 576 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 3: which is most important to the overall strength of the game. 577 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm I'm I'm interested, I'm excited. And yes, he 578 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: does a lot of franchise thing. I mean, I guess 579 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: he does it all. That's that's that's his main main game. Finally, 580 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: let him start playing Fortnite lately, and so that's now 581 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 1: taken up a lot of time. 582 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: It'll be onto college as well. 583 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: But like some absolutely absolutely ridiculous traits going on in 584 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: franchise mode. All right, let's wrap up this show with 585 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: a couple hype bunnies. This will be quick. But I 586 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: was listening to the Lions talk about Jamison Williams and 587 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 1: I just thought, oh man, this is one of those 588 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: players this season that is gonna be a hype bunny everywhere, 589 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: and I thought we would get ahead of it. Shook 590 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: because there are just certain players in certain seasons that 591 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: by the time the season gets there, you're like, okay, 592 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: like I'm almost sick of hearing how this guy's going 593 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: to have a breakout player. So we're here early June 594 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: almost predicting and talking about just two players. I'm gonna 595 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: pick Jamison Williams, but I'll let you go first and 596 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: explain your pick of who's gonna be a hype bunny 597 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 1: for this season, just a player that everyone is sort 598 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 1: of talking about, that the league is talking about going 599 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: into twenty twenty five. 600 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 3: I'm gonna skew toward rookies because that's dominated a lot 601 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 3: of the offseason, as it always does. But one guy 602 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 3: I'm thinking of is Ashton Genty because I think that 603 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 3: the Raiders lacked the presence that they had in the 604 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 3: backfield Josh Jacobs in years prior, and the Raiders have 605 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 3: a lot of positive buzz around them right now. You 606 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 3: are a walking, breathing example of it at times because 607 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 3: Gino Smith is their quarterback. 608 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 2: Now and Pete Carroll's the coach. 609 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 3: Genty fills out that offense, and I mean we're talking 610 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 3: about him changing his stance and OTAs right and that 611 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 3: that's getting traction. So I think he's actually going to 612 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 3: produce at a relatively high level and people are gonna 613 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 3: pay attention to him and love watching him run the 614 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 3: football in the NFL throughout this season. He's going to 615 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 3: be one of the big ones I think who's going 616 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 3: to come in and have an instant impact on this team. 617 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 3: And kind of like Bijon Robinson had a lot of 618 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 3: hype following him into Atlanta a couple of years ago, 619 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 3: it's going to be similar to that. 620 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: It's a league white trend. Now running backs are back 621 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: and we've got suon On. Matt Jeffrey was on the 622 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: cover last year. 623 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 2: Now you got Saquon. 624 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: They're back we got Derreck Henry getting big time money, 625 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: and we got stuck in this conversation for so long 626 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: about how running backs are relatively fungible and that their 627 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: careers end quicker. 628 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 4: And that is all true. 629 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: Why like they don't necessarily get or deserve big second 630 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: contracts unless they're the best of the best, like a 631 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: Henry or McCaffrey or Saquon. But it has never changed 632 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: the fact shook that running backs are cool, that running 633 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: backs are fun, that when you're a kid, what do 634 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: you want to be? You want to be a running 635 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: back when you're a kid. What do you want to 636 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: watch when you're an adult? What do you want to watch? 637 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: When you're a fantasy player? Who do you want to draft? 638 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: Who do you want to watch? Like, no matter how 639 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 1: much you tell us that the position is worthless, it's 640 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 1: actually never been any less cool. 641 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 4: And we should have superstars now. 642 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: We don't have to go back to the seventies where 643 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: running backs were literally the kings of the sport. They 644 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: were almost more important than quarterback. But we need to 645 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: find some sort of balance where guys like Ashton Genty 646 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: are the biggest stars in the sport and if they're only. 647 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 4: The biggest stars for six or seven years. 648 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 1: Who cares. 649 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 4: We don't need everyone to be Tom Brady. 650 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: I'm with you. Like he makes the Raiders watchable and 651 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: box office in a way that. 652 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 4: They just haven't been for years, at least on paper. 653 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 2: Right now, I think he'll do it though, Yeah. 654 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:10,959 Speaker 1: He'll do it all right. 655 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 4: I will go with Jamison Williams as my pick. And 656 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 4: he's entering year four. 657 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 1: It's a perfect time a guy towards the end of 658 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: his rookie contract to just start being the subject of 659 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: all the pieces. He's had, this narrative arc shook disappointment 660 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: right off the bat, immature on and off the field. 661 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: I mean last season, we're coming into the season. You know, 662 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: there's multiple suspensions going on in his career, whether it 663 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: was the substance abuse policy, I mean the PD policy rather, 664 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: I should say, and the gambling policy previously, Like he 665 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: has not made great decisions. And then yet he shows 666 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: up last season and he gets over a thousand yards 667 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: and he finally shows that progress on the field that 668 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: you wanted to see. And now he's coming into his 669 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: own and he's just such an obvious candidate to get 670 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: talked about so much. Let's listen to Dan Campbell talking 671 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: about Jameson Williams last week. 672 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 5: His ability to stop put his foot in the ground. Man, 673 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 5: when you can run like you can run, and now 674 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 5: you begin into where man, you can stop on a dime. 675 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 5: I mean you talk about a hardcover. So the sky's 676 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 5: a limit for him. He's exactly where we want him 677 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 5: to be right now at this point. Man, he's been here, 678 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 5: he's grinding, he's getting better. Scott, he's freaking grinding him. 679 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 5: It's awesome. But we expect him to have a huge season. 680 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: Sky's the limit, says the headlines where you expect him 681 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: to have a huge season, and says, the headlines are 682 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: you buying sick? 683 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 2: I did say I'm a skeptic. I did say I'm 684 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 2: a sinek. 685 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 3: But I know the talent is there. It's just been 686 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 3: the ability to stay on the field. And his fit 687 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 3: in that offense is so good too. Like if you 688 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 3: could extract near maximum production from Jameson Williams and aman 689 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 3: Ross ain't Brown at same time, you got one of 690 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 3: the best duos in the NFL right off the top. 691 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 3: But we haven't seen it at the level that I 692 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 3: would envision it to be. Is he talented enough. Yes, Sure, 693 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 3: he didn't stick at Ohio State because they were loaded 694 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 3: at receiver, and then he goes Dallabama and he's an 695 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 3: instant breakout star and we haven't seen it consistently in 696 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 3: the NFL because he hasn't been on the field. So 697 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 3: if he's on the field all year and they are 698 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 3: able to pick up where they left off despite changing 699 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 3: offensive coordinators, then yes, because I think that he has 700 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 3: every gift he needs to produce. It's just a matter 701 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 3: of establishing consistency both on and off the field. 702 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: I think they are big up being Jamison Williams in 703 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: the off season because they see a change in him. 704 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: Here's some quotes. This was from the Lions website. Sky's 705 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: the Limit was the headline. They say coaches have raved 706 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: about Williams off season for his play on the field, 707 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: but his attention to detail in meeting rooms. Every time 708 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: his name has been brought up, the person talking, whether 709 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: it's Dan Campbell, Johnny Morton, the offensive coordinator, wide receivers 710 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: coach Scotty Montgomery, or Williams's teammates, big smile crosses their 711 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: face and say that he has a different attitude in 712 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: terms of the work that he's putting in and expect 713 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: a huge season. Just seems like they are all trying 714 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: to build him up for what's going to be a 715 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: big season because if he goes off, he can really, 716 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: you know, get rich in terms of his contract. And 717 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: I did see development over the last season and a 718 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: half where he's better at those stop routes. He's not 719 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: just a one trick pony in terms of his deep passing. 720 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: In fact, he was third in the NFL in yak 721 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: per catch. Now that's partly because he's got a couple 722 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: where you know, he goes like seventy yards on a slam, 723 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: but that's what he could do for you, second in 724 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: the NFL in yards per reception. 725 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 4: And then I watched a little of his press conference too. 726 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: No huge takeaways, but just does seem like a player 727 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: who came into the league immature like a lot of 728 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: twenty one year olds are, and has grown into it 729 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: in the right organization and seems kind of ready and 730 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: relaxed and ready for a big season. 731 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 4: So I'm I'm buying big time. 732 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 3: This is also a club that's not afraid to pay 733 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 3: their players. We've seen that in the last few years 734 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 3: with their key players. So if he's going to go it, 735 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 3: now is the time, and I think he would be 736 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 3: rewarded handsomely. If he does earn it now, they'll have 737 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 3: to fit it into the cap, but they've done a 738 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 3: good job of that so far. 739 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 2: So I like the upside there. I definitely do. 740 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 3: We're gonna the next player I'm gonna pick for a 741 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 3: hype bunny is I'm a Stavis receiver. 742 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:14,479 Speaker 2: Kind of a different narrative here. 743 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 3: It's DK Metcalf and it's because and this is directly 744 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 3: tied to Aaron Rodgers and whether he eventually decides to 745 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 3: sign with the Steelers or not, which we've been waiting forever, 746 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 3: but we all expect that to happen at some point 747 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 3: because the Steelers, after meandering through this strange quarterback list 748 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 3: territory where they just cycle guys in and out and 749 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 3: try to figure out what they're doing. 750 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 2: Can you pick it? 751 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson justin fields now, Mason Rudolph is back, but 752 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 3: probably won't start unless Rogers retires. 753 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 2: This is a big year for them again. 754 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 3: You know, every time I talk to a Steeler fan 755 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 3: out in the wild during this offseason, I repeatly get 756 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 3: the same question, what do you think about Mike Tomlin? 757 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 2: You know, is he really gonna be there that long? 758 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 2: You know, why can't we win a playoff game? 759 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 3: And I tell him the same thing, Guys, you wouldn't 760 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 3: even be in the playoffs and Canon if he wasn't 761 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 3: your coach because of what the hand he's been dealt 762 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,239 Speaker 3: at quarterback, He's have found a way to get them there. 763 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 3: But if they have Aaron Rodgers and he can play 764 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 3: like he did down the stretch of the Jets last year, 765 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 3: and he can find an establish rapport with DK Metcalf, 766 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 3: the new guy in town, the guy that they like 767 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 3: better than they like George Pickens so much that they 768 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 3: traded George Pickens the Dallas, then it's gonna attract a 769 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 3: ton of buzz. We're gonna seeteeer highlights. They got four 770 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 3: primetime games, first ones in Week seven and it continues 771 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 3: on through the season. The league expects them to be 772 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 3: in contention and to be worth watching in a primetime slot, 773 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 3: and a big reason for that is DK Metcalf. So 774 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 3: I think we're gonna talk about him a lot if 775 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 3: he's able to get on the same page with Rogers. 776 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 2: If Rogers becomes their quarterback again. 777 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 3: A lot of question marks, but if it all comes together, 778 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 3: not saying they're gonna win a Super Bowl, but we're 779 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 3: gonna be talking about metcalf and the Steelers a lot. 780 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally agree with you. There there was always a 781 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: feeling that there could be more to Dk Metcalfe. Well, 782 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: if not now than when he turned in exactly this season, 783 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: could he have a trell Owens' first season with the 784 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: Cowboys or Eagles type of He hasn't had that level 785 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: of season. We'll see if he can get it done. 786 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: That is three hype bunnies to keep an eye on 787 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: heading into the season. That's it for a nice, tight 788 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: Monday show. We will be back on Tuesday with my 789 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: friend Jordan Rodriege of The Athletic. We're trying to get 790 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf on board. The negotiations are ongoing. 791 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 4: What's going on. 792 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: We will see, Well, she was off camping in Big 793 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: sur she's off doing Good Morning Football. We'll see if 794 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: we can get her. But it would be a big 795 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:30,399 Speaker 1: ad if we can. 796 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 3: That is it. 797 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 1: Like I said for today's show, there's a lot of 798 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: otis going on. Good to have shook back in the show. 799 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: I've missed you shook to be back. 800 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 4: Yes, when we're trying. 801 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: To, you know, tell everyone to just calmbound down like 802 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: the boat thing isn't that big of a deal. Stefan 803 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: Diggs is gonna play yet, you know football's finding