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Speaker 1: Right, wait, god man, put some together. Man. You know,

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Speaker 3: How was that was that first time you've seen him

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Speaker 1: Since since a lot of these you know, a lot

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Speaker 1: I wasn't blatantly trying to put horns on your head

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Speaker 1: my nigga. But I'm telling the truth for what I

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Speaker 2: I'm like, fifty years I'm a part of this now.

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Speaker 1: I'm thankful for you because I actually I take that back.

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Speaker 1: We actually filmed something for Love and hip Hop. We

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Speaker 2: It was really.

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Speaker 1: Huge and exactly yep, come on, man, quit.

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Speaker 4: Playing you saw.

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Speaker 3: That wasn't even shot. I must have left because me

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Speaker 3: and New Face was I was.

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Speaker 1: Definitely there up with the ship on the shoulder.

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Speaker 3: Against what's the nigga ship.

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Speaker 1: We get a certain names. Once we get a certain names,

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Speaker 1: as I said in another interview, Man to Change, we

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Speaker 1: And you know, Men Change hadn't been on the same

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Speaker 1: I never expressed it. I just was like, all right, bro,

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Speaker 1: It's just I thought we would be in a better place.

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Speaker 1: So when he got up there and he accepted his

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Speaker 1: he said, I know, Change looked over the and he said, Jock,

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Speaker 1: All this, Noah, it was it was just like we're

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Speaker 2: Like we got a good upbringing.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a reason that has had certain levels

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Speaker 1: to this your face as catch up catch up by Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So when when I went up there to speak, I say,

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Speaker 2: And I had to say before I except this war.

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Speaker 3: So still it ain't no, not as good it was.

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Speaker 2: It was no issues.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, when you're sitting back knowing the history,

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's and people lose lives in this ship.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, you know, I saw him then, so I

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Speaker 4: before he hit me this, I don't know how many

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Speaker 4: years ago, I was like, man, how you need to

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 4: Why he keep going? Why he keep bringing my mother

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Speaker 3: Me and Jock good. Yeah, he said, we're good. Man.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you man that I felt good hearing that ship.

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Speaker 2: So here's the thing. When Bank was talking about.

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Speaker 1: Bro, I still love you man, And I'm like, it's

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Speaker 1: all good, Bro, I ain't I've got no his shoes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking twenty years later, Bro, it's we're good. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Me, we gotta be able to agree and disagree.

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Speaker 4: And that's just that's now without mud slinging and this

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Speaker 5: One thing you can't agree on is collectively the synergy

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Speaker 3: Period mad history man, not just for Atlanta, not just

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So so I just never it was good. I

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Speaker 3: On guerrillas, there's nothing he.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I think I think that people are afraid of

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Speaker 3: Never be able to be like b thought we talk

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Speaker 4: Ego has been a time in my life personally speaking,

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Speaker 4: the word decisions I've ever made becomes of my ego.

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Speaker 1: Boy, look listen, I sent my ego to the side.

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Speaker 1: I was in court that's been sued for one hundred

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Speaker 1: and twenty thousand dollars. Yeah, I did a whole deal

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Speaker 1: with for my renal cost situation import reuntals. I mean,

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Speaker 2: So, but no.

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Speaker 1: So you know, Nigga found out I wasn't going to

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Speaker 1: renew my lease, Nigga hit me with a bill like boom, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know I need a twenty I need thirty thousand.

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Speaker 1: I was like, for putting a sound system in my car.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying, I'm asking you for a price, you saying no,

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Speaker 1: ever want you to come back and say I owe you. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm actually wrong. It was sixty thousand because the attorneys

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Speaker 1: but we're gonna take half. And I'll never forget sitting

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Speaker 3: You're like.

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Speaker 1: Two days crying and I'm seeing her looking like.

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Speaker 2: What I'm like.

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Speaker 1: So his attorneys was like, y'all won. My turner was like,

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Speaker 1: we got him. I'm sitting here like, I hate it

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, I hate it came to this. Right

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Speaker 1: the judge, I wouldn't let you guys mediate before they

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Speaker 3: I'm like, what we're gonna do?

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Speaker 1: So he said, so what you know, you guys want

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Speaker 1: to come on a twenty thirty grand and we could

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Speaker 1: call it even. I was like, nah, I said, because

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Speaker 1: I said, I'm willing to give him said because I

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Speaker 1: gave him seventy five hundred. Yeah, just on the strength

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Speaker 2: This is on me. I don't give about when nobody

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Speaker 3: I was never you was around him. That was your

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying they appeared to be good. So I

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Speaker 2: He didn't love that woman.

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Speaker 1: But if I was a character weakness, right now, it's

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Speaker 2: At me like if he only knew, if he only knew.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know, so I can't speak on that.

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Speaker 3: It's just like we've both been married and went through divorce.

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Speaker 2: They will unload that.

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Speaker 1: You got time you asked I'm going to drink me.

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Speaker 1: But what I would what I would tell? What I

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm trying to say.

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Speaker 1: The pictures looking a little scruffy. But ship, but ship, nigga,

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Speaker 3: Look, we've been doing this. Watch out. We promised before

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Right here in Atlanta. And it's times you'll walk up

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Speaker 1: Although they were there, they went through it, they experienced

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Speaker 2: Bring it back. Damn, I forgot about that.

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Speaker 1: There's certain songs could come on and I'll be like,

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: So did he You know he does reset and we

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Speaker 5: one for you, playboy? Can you hop on this one?

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Speaker 5: Bad Boy? Ready to go? We need you, Playboy? Would

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Speaker 5: the table with them, Okay, No matter help change my life.

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Speaker 1: Because at the end of the day, again, no matter

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Speaker 1: even get it. What's the plan? Because we're talking about

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Speaker 2: Our greats. Man, here you go. You gotta r Kelly,

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Speaker 2: you gotta.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, they they they hit him a few times.

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Speaker 2: They never stuck robbing Bill.

441
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Speaker 3: They got them.

442
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 1: So when you when you take a look at some

443
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 1: of our greats and we're like, damn, hold up, these

444
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: have been somewhere, especially Diddy Didd.

445
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Speaker 2: He was considered a gatekeeper.

446
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: Didd he was one of the ones when he saw

447
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 1: something crazy, he come out and stand up for the culture.

448
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: Not just the culture, for voter Die, our society. Ye

449
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: before you heard the Jez Say trampade, that man was

450
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: talking about voter Dye. That man was running marathons and

451
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: trying to excel and and and anything anything he put

452
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Speaker 1: his name on.

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Speaker 2: And if that was.

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Speaker 1: An inspiration for the aspiring I don't know what is

455
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Speaker 1: or was, So I'm not gonna just jump on on

456
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Speaker 1: board something.

457
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 2: But oh yeah, yeah, because people are.

458
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Speaker 1: But I'm also not gonna be in the in the

459
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Speaker 1: space to act as if we're not human and that mistakes.

460
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Speaker 2: Can't or worn't can't be made or weren't made.

461
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Speaker 1: I just have to take my hands off of the.

462
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Speaker 2: The situation in total, and I pray for all parties involved.

463
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Speaker 2: That's how I do it. That's that's my diplomacy in

464
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Speaker 2: the situation.

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Speaker 5: And through this whole conversation, Man, we've talked about your

466
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 5: entrepreneur successful in music and business, and I and this

467
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 5: brother from Detroit, how did we get to the point

468
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 5: where four to two, Doug come out and say, before

469
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 5: I go broke like job. I didn't like that narrative.

470
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 5: And then then ego again, how did when you first

471
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 5: heard it? Ego, how did you feel?

472
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 2: But what was that about? I see? You know what.

473
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Speaker 1: If I slap you right now, I gotta know, here's

474
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Speaker 1: a few consequences. I could be charged for slapping you.

475
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: You might charge me for slapping you. You might up

476
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Speaker 1: the fire, fire, fire me up our heart, may never

477
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: ever fuck with me or do any kind of bits

478
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Speaker 1: with business with me ever in the future. For doing

479
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Speaker 1: something like this, It could create an issue right here,

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be thinking about all the consequences before

481
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Speaker 1: I do anything, before I commit to doing anything. Right then,

482
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: I also got to understand what did you do to

483
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 1: make me slap you or how did we get here?

484
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: So I take it all the way back to the

485
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Speaker 1: concept of me doing the whole campaign for Pull Up

486
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Speaker 1: and Go. This was an app, a service like Twitter,

487
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: I mean like Uber. Okay, it was a subscription based app.

488
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: They came to me, they start out marketing for me.

489
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 1: They said, man, you always going viral, usually to make

490
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Speaker 1: some money and something like this. We got you a

491
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: percentage and I said, okay, I said, hey, put me

492
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Speaker 1: in a car. So two of the people that was

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Speaker 1: in the backseat of the car actually worked for the company.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, You broke and you drive.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, because as a society and as a culture,

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Speaker 1: we can't see ourselves taking that risk, gambling our.

497
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 3: Status to take care of our family.

498
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 2: To take care of our family. It's like it's called leverage.

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00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 2: I said. Look.

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Speaker 1: They was like, well, you gonna do what I said,

501
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: y'all the whole thing.

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Speaker 4: We cut you off. It reminds me of the actor

503
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 4: that was on the Cosby Show. They took pictures of

504
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 4: the brother while he was working, and it worked. But

505
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 4: this man was doing what he had to do to

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00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 4: put food on his table. But we were in such

507
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 4: a fucked up place as a culture, especially as a

508
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 4: people in the black community, where this man is doing

509
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 4: something legal, he working, taking care of doing what you

510
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 4: gotta do to get a check.

511
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 3: And y'all taking pictures on them, trying to clown.

512
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 1: So, especially when we've been so far removed from the spotlight.

513
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: And then he's like where he's finally like, I'm comfortable

514
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: just doing what I do to get by. Yeah, whether

515
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: people recognize me or not, I'm good. Then suddenly somebody

516
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Speaker 1: see it and it's a new thing. Decades Like then.

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Speaker 3: They see you in all this fucking job driving driving,

518
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 3: think about.

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00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: It, so think about it somebody seeing like, nah, he

520
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: ain't just he ain't just do that, bro, Really he

521
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: probably really doing it. And that's you got people who

522
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: don't know what you're doing. We don't know the moves.

523
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 1: We don't know the moves you made to land this podcast.

524
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: It's not like the NFL or the you know, it's

525
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: not MLB or NBA. Well, everybody knows your contract, how

526
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: much money you get when you sign.

527
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 2: We don't know.

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00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: Where you're the first round pick for this podcast. Nobody

529
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 1: knows that, so we just look up and see it

530
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: happening one day. So in this space, nobody was following

531
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Speaker 1: what I'm doing as far as like for money outside

532
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: of me having my own syndicated morning show, being on

533
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: Love and Hip Hop at the time, but at the

534
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: time owning one of the popping his clubs on the

535
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Speaker 1: South Side South Beat.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about popping.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 3: So but you got d But if.

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00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: You don't know that, so the moment I did that,

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Speaker 1: guess what.

541
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Speaker 2: Guess what? You sit back and.

542
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:06,239
Speaker 1: See that ship you like, Damn, it's it's rough out here,

543
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: this nigga talking about he drives. Because I never gave

544
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: the truth in what it was. So you come around

545
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: a year later. It was perfect time before I go

546
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: broke like John, that was a that was a bar

547
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: and it's stuff people. People stuck with people because they

548
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: saw that post. They saw the they saw the viral

549
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: payload that came from me trying to create this market

550
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: employ for this company I had Covid not hit, that

551
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: company would have took off because they changed everything that

552
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: these people that I put in play for this company

553
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: to the point where if you go back and look

554
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: at that time, Uber went back and got them did

555
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Speaker 1: a commercial with Atlicia Geeze and some other celebrities because

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00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: it was.

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Speaker 3: Kind of like, oh, Ship say that about them.

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00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: Now they have to because you're looking at that like, oh,

559
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: that's at Leasta Keys. It's not showing her driving. It's

560
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: also like her endorsing the situation. This is not a commercial, nigga,

561
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: This is from somebody phone who looked like they trying

562
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: to out me for driving Uber or this this this

563
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: drive share subscription based I you know what I'm saying,

564
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Speaker 1: and that's just what it was.

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Speaker 4: So when he did I was like, oh, but when

566
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Speaker 4: I tell you Jack as your boy, as your partner

567
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Speaker 4: over the last few years, you it'd be so much

568
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Speaker 4: ship that you know that. I read like, like like

569
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Speaker 4: I said early in the interview, like with the with

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Speaker 4: the respect on your name, with the music, and then

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Speaker 4: one minute the LGBT community, and then I read something

572
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Speaker 4: those of young Jock Gayer, how do you deal with

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Speaker 4: I know you got a family, you got kids or

574
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Speaker 4: wife to keep you balanced. But of course you also

575
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Speaker 4: you you on social media, and you see how does

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00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 4: all that? How do you keep up up like just without?

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Speaker 3: Like, man, what the fuck?

578
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 2: Upbringing? Good upbringing and upbringing is just not in the home.

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Speaker 2: Upbringing from a community around me.

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Speaker 1: Upbringing came from rest and peace to her soul, Mama

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00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: Simone across the street, my mother's godmother.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: A good upbringing came from pastor REVERENDE Taylor, pastor Jones.

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00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: You know, these were factors in my life. Good upbringing

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00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: comes from my father, my mother. Good upbringings come from

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00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: my older siblings. Good upbringings come from certain teachers I had,

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00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: certain counselors. Good upbringing came from certain friends that my

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00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: mama adored and had around me, or my dad's friends,

589
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: whether they was the homie or I called them.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: Good upbringing came form those certain teachers or certain principles

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00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: at these schools and people that that I was willing

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00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: to listen to along the way. And I always understood

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00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: that you know, let everything down, let your emotions subside,

595
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: then you can think clearly before you.

596
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: Jump out here.

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00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: So a lot of times when I see certain things

598
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: I just like and I'm aware of the notion that.

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00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: Guess what, I'm aware that it's so much inflammation, none stop,

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00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: that's popping. We're gonna talk about you todayrow, tomorrow, next week,

601
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: the story next man, it's gonna be something and all is.

602
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: People will go back and point out like, come on, man,

603
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: well guess what. It ain't nothing like shining in the

604
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: face of adversity. Some people just say, look adversity in

605
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: the face. That's one thing. But when you're looking good,

606
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: like my hell, I'm living like this.

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00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 4: Like this, that so much because God has taken me in.

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00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 4: You know, both of y'all know I hit You know,

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00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 4: I was on the canvas eight years. I was on

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00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 4: literally on the canvas financially going to the fads. I

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00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 4: got back off that canvas, and God took me and said.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna put you. Yeah, I'm gonna place you right.

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Speaker 5: And that's what I respect him for. That pep people

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00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 5: they look right into the fire and and it was

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Speaker 5: it hit me.

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Speaker 4: And then you had the people that love to congratuate.

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Speaker 4: I know you got a lot of them.

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Speaker 3: Boy, you number one more brother, Jock. I'm proud of

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Speaker 3: your little show. Do they really do?

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Speaker 4: They say that the little show, your little show, little show,

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Speaker 4: but congratuate though I'm proud.

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Speaker 1: That's man. I don't even guess what. I don't pay

623
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Speaker 1: no attention to it. I just I just take my flowers.

624
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: I don't care if you really didn't want to hand

625
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: them to me, give me.

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Speaker 3: Mine, thank you, and look, let me tell you, I don't.

627
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: Care how dry your mouth for is to say, good job,

628
00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: good job.

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Speaker 3: Good job. Whisper that show.

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Speaker 2: You ain't even got to say. You can just look

631
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: me in the eye. I understand you may not want.

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00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 4: That's what and that's what you may believe. And that's

633
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 4: what this show is about. Me and your face talk

634
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 4: about it. And we're gonna tell you why you here.

635
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 4: Hey man, we appreciate you, We wanted to have you on.

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00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 4: And before we get out of here, I just wanted

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00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 4: to say one one more thing.

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00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 2: Talk to me.

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Speaker 3: You on the radio.

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Speaker 4: Congratulations on your morning show, Young Jock Show, Young John

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00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 4: Morning Show, syndicated.

642
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 3: And shot Chicago.

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00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 4: Other cities number one. And I just want to tell

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00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 4: you when I listen to it, you really sound passionate

645
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 4: about doing radio. You sound passionate and I just want

646
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 4: to tell you, man, the man, bro, what you're doing

647
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 4: is good, making a big difference in the community.

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00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 3: Hey man, I'm proud of you just as a partner, bro.

649
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Boy.

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00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 5: Hey, and I got two flowers, just a couple of

651
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 5: flowers to say because they say new face was there.

652
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 5: And I've seen early comedy, right, I've been in the

653
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 5: Uptown comedy following these guys for years. Tip have supported them.

654
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 5: But I went to his birthday party at Uptown Comedy

655
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 5: Corner and before all these people would transition into comedy,

656
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 5: it was Jock, Yeah, standing up with Michael Blacks was there,

657
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 5: k doub He was on that stage telling jokes.

658
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 3: So we love Tip.

659
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 5: Two years in doing your ship and everything, but Jock

660
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 5: was doing I'm that dude that pulled up in the

661
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 5: parking lot when he had the tuxedo and the perm.

662
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 4: That we go with them to the side. It was

663
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 4: a press but yeah, oh good will, oh fake good

664
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 4: with it.

665
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

666
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: Put it on the wall.

667
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 4: Hey, look man, man, So I just want to tell

668
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 4: both of y'all. Man, Hey, I love you, boy, I

669
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 4: love you. Story time legendary Jerry. Every week, every Wednesday

670
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 4: we got a guest like this. Please make sure YouTube

671
00:35:54,719 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 4: you subscribed. Look, I said, subscribe like comics podcast ass

672
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 4: the iHeart radio app. Man, y'all tune in. Every Wednesday

673
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 4: we got you know, we got like this like this, dude,

674
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 4: y'all case who those listen? They can't see he got

675
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 4: on one of the more beat Okay, no, all right,

676
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 4: my bad, I'm like that. Okay, I know we're going

677
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 4: to eight. No about okay, Hey hey hey.

678
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: Rocking the Saint period, story.

679
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 3: Time Legendary Jerry. We signed it off. We out. I

680
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 3: was I was waiting to go to the safe period,

681
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 3: trying to not go here.

682
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 4: Story time with Legendary Jerry. Of course every week we

683
00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 4: have that special new face. What's there? He's always there faces.

684
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 4: He's got song with our brother young joh new face.

685
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 3: Do your thing, man, man, We got the receipts, right,

686
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 3: we got the receipts.

687
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 5: Always how we keep coming up with these legendary that's

688
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 5: what we do.

689
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 3: That story tilling legend a jay baby we do.

690
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 5: And we got the j oc man at first. I

691
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 5: always go to the introduction. The earliest memory Kenney would

692
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 5: be on the radio talking about Royal Peacock.

693
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 3: Yes, Royal peacock.

694
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 2: Every time.

695
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 5: I'll be early in the morning. I used to make

696
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 5: the shirts for Rashaan our leave CJ make shirts and

697
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 5: they were well. On the birthday back.

698
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: Everybody that Shi was like everybody and everyone was fine.

699
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 3: Eighteen morning, shout out to love but every morning and

700
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 3: they doing great things.

701
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 5: And my dog so he would always shout out Royal peacock.

702
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 5: So I decided to go. I decided to going up

703
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 5: going neighborhood. You know, I knew I wasn't visitor. I

704
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 5: got here in freak ing ninety four. It was clubs

705
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 5: that I was. I didn't know it was dangerous. I

706
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 5: just showed up. I showed up. So I showed up

707
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 5: looking like some Detroit shit one door to get in

708
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 5: the club up the stairs years ago. So we get

709
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 5: up here and there's a couple of people I think

710
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 5: Bob was there performing. Packed is small as ship. But

711
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 5: then you perform, I'm like, oh, sh see, and I

712
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 5: think this was before the dance.

713
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 2: I think definitely before the dance, that's what it was.

714
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 5: But people reciting the words. There's people like I'm new

715
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 5: to it, but the excitement they knew you. They were

716
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 5: there clearly for you. I'm like, oh, this is this

717
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 5: is something you know. But then the transition happens. Next

718
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 5: time I see in one O six and Park Juice, Juice,

719
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 5: Boxy everything MTV. So I've been a fan since then.

720
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, And I bring out you know,

721
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 5: I see.

722
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 3: This damn man.

723
00:38:52,239 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, I said that before you had that surgery?

724
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 2: My favorite.

725
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: But how do you know about y'alla? As long as

726
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: you know me? Have you ever seen me a person?

727
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 3: You with that big man bro like you? You was

728
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 3: a clump.

729
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 2: Man?

730
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 3: Why they get you? That big man put that ball

731
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 3: on the co you was that big for real? They

732
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 3: would have just made.

733
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 5: That just to come up DVD early on. And then

734
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 5: it transitions.

735
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 3: Professor Kump Jack.

736
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 5: On the gangster grill wokeing to my block. Yeah, cover

737
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 5: a gangster grill.

738
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: Now I remember looking more like that. Look you ain't

739
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: see't never. We wouldn't be that surprised if I was.

740
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,959
Speaker 3: This is the gangster you putting.

741
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 2: I think you and Jerry got together.

742
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 5: Man, you got anyone you want your timeline, let's start.

743
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: Okay, that was actually so it was at the same.

744
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 5: Time okay, we take it back to we go. We

745
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 5: got love of the jocks.

746
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 2: We see that's me. Yeah, okay. When it came up man,

747
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: you both said.

748
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, dog man, what's the actor that played Biggie on

749
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 4: the grade.

750
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 2: Grave to be keen?

751
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 5: So you know, like we said, we're bringing most of

752
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 5: these things out.

753
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 4: When we was there, wow ozon magazine show the camera

754
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 4: shout out.

755
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: To this was a dusty day.

756
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 5: Just what do you remember about this day? And did

757
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 5: you go to Miss Ann's getto Berger?

758
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, every day. I just remember being there this day.

759
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: It's like we supposed to be doing this. You see

760
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: everybody face. Everybody's like, man, we're still doing it or not?

761
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: Because it was kind of up and down if it

762
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: was gonna do it or not.

763
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

764
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: I had went to the gym that day and so

765
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: my us some clothes because after the gym I had

766
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: to go mess with my dogs. So if you zoom

767
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 1: in on that cover, you can see dogs slav all

768
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: on my job and on my shoes and they're like, bro,

769
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: you ain't got time to go home to people. Everybody

770
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: to take the vision, you know, block call on ma,

771
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: we gotta take picture. Nonybody want see that ship.

772
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: I'm I don't look at big G.

773
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, I looked like ship. He's like, man,

774
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 1: what that ship? Man went the hood.

775
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, I'm rich.

776
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: I can't look like this.

777
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 3: That's a different question why Jesus needs show off for

778
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 3: the ship.

779
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 2: Because Jesus was no longer part of the group at

780
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: that point in time. That's why was there.

781
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: You know, by the time put like this, By the

782
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: time my head got in the I came into the

783
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 1: picture Jesus.

784
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 2: With Jesus, it was going on. You know. It was

785
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 2: kind of like me coming in like.

786
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: Everything cool, you know, beef with Jesus and there right,

787
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, we're good.

788
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, okay, let's go.

789
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: I was like, I ain't trying to be no replacement

790
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 1: or nothing like that, you know what I'm saying, because

791
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: your own that's it. Because people was like, oh, he's

792
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: going to be replacing Jesus, like whoa.

793
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

794
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 5: And then lastly, you know, this is a day and in

795
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 5: life of Jock signing autographs at the y m C.

796
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 2: A oh Man similar because.

797
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 5: They said Black had to change his shirt. He needed

798
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 5: a white T shirt. And that's Jock signing autographs at

799
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 5: the you know, a day in the life. What you

800
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 5: remember about that?

801
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: I remember moving around actually, like you know, living out

802
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: my dreams, fulfilling my obligations as a as a as

803
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: an entertainer, as an entrepreneur, as a father. You know,

804
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: I remember this. I definitely remember this. Double X said yeah, and.

805
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 5: Before we get out of here, last two questions, and

806
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 5: we celebrated fifty years of hip hop talk to him.

807
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 5: Your earliest memory of hip hop?

808
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 2: Oh, my earliest memory of hip hop?

809
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: Man?

810
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 2: Man, we're talking about Wave Band, Yeah, wave Man.

811
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: Furious Yeah, Fab five, Freddy like Run DMC Yo Yo

812
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: Yo EPM, d every being Rock QM like, I mean

813
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: even Fat Boys, Beastie Boys, Dana Dane, slick Rick. You

814
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Money Love, super Sonic, JJ fans

815
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: super so like. I remember, like because for real, for real,

816
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: living in Atlanta, you know, we was listening to what

817
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: they were serving. It's what was on the me and you,

818
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: my boy, because if you didn't have something to substitute that,

819
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: that's what it was.

820
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: And I was. I remember, man, my grandma Man.

821
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: She had this coffee table that was like this burrow

822
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: wood panel panels, like Wood, but it wun't.

823
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 2: Wood was lamited.

824
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: I remember sitting on her table and sitting in front

825
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: of that TV glued. It was like I was just

826
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: inhaling that ship, just soaking it all and sponge. So

827
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: I was that kid diggab with planets.

828
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 5: So if I was to ask you, if there is

829
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 5: there a lyric or verse that lives in your head,

830
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 5: rent free that you could recite at the drop of

831
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 5: a diamon, what would be your ass?

832
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 2: Too many?

833
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 5: Many?

834
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's too many. It's for real, it's too many

835
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 2: because I.

836
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: I really was out here doing it like every day

837
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: all that. Okay, Someone said, well that should be easy

838
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 1: for you. It's just fifty years of it, and I can't.

839
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: I don't. I can't because I don't have to go

840
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 1: all the way back to the beginning. I can come

841
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: even up closer to get you something that stuck, and

842
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: I just don't want to. I don't want to do that.

843
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: I just want to put the glory on fifty years

844
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: of it. Not a certain moment won the peak for me.

845
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 2: One to low. It was all just life.

846
00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 5: And most recently Nas and stee Style honored Scarface and

847
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 5: rock Kim gave them two hundred and fifty thousand, gave

848
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 5: them flowers the whole exhibit, you know, celebrate. Now, if

849
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 5: they were to call Jack and ask for your opinion

850
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 5: to name two people that are worthy of this type

851
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 5: of celebration, people were worthy of praise and that weren't

852
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 5: you know, giving the accolades that they should in your opinion,

853
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 5: who would you you know, name throwing that box?

854
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: Now that's crazy because Scarface would have definitely been one

855
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: of those people had you not saying that. But I

856
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 1: do remember seeing that, you know, slick Rick hundred three thousand.

857
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 2: Okay, you give.

858
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 3: Him that money. They probably don't need it.

859
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 2: What you the fuck what they need?

860
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 1: Because that, you know, that's just like seeing a bad

861
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 1: ass chick who no, she's bad, She get compliments all day,

862
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: but you got to give up her shit Like girl, Hey,

863
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: she don't need your compliments, she don't need your money.

864
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: It's plenty of cats throwing money away. So with that

865
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: being said, I would definitely give it to those two

866
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: cats because they left a mark on me. You know,

867
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: slick Rick always had a cool way. You ever seen

868
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: Slickery mad? Have you ever?

869
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 2: Really? Have you ever seen me mad? Who you I mean?

870
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: Just not we're talking about on a personal level, just

871
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: from what the world has seen. Have you ever really

872
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: seen me mad outside of you see what I'm saying,

873
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: Slick Rick Andred three thousand. To be positive even in

874
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 1: the midst of turmoil or whatever, to still be able

875
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: to stand on your own, don't care what nobody think

876
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,479
Speaker 1: about you self expression at.

877
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 2: The art time.

878
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 4: I saw you mad one time when you you lost

879
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 4: that wet T shirt contest when you was in them speedos.

880
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 4: It was something some ship the contest. Oh yeah, when

881
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 4: you was wrestling with some dude.

882
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: Yeah my bamnis back out pause and I ended up

883
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: getting that big chick from you had to.

884
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 2: Snap into a slim gym and.

885
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 4: A wet it was a wet T shirt content, And

886
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 4: I remember hearing you this might not be good to do.

887
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 6: My nig.

888
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: Was just announced that because it's somebody like, yeah, he's

889
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: a jon.

890
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 2: Was really but I definitely got to give it to

891
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 2: those two.

892
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: For me, it's some other people I can name, but

893
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: I think those two because they stood out of my

894
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:32,439
Speaker 1: head uh so much early on as a young as

895
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: a preteen, as a teenager, as an adolescent, you know.

896
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'll give to them too.

897
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 5: And last question, you know it's been a resurgence U,

898
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 5: it's trap music been celebrated. Tip just celebrated twenty years

899
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:46,919
Speaker 5: of trap music.

900
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 2: So outside the Tip for.

901
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 5: To show at the Symphony Orchestra Hall being, did you

902
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 5: ever classify yourself as trap music or oh initially initially initially?

903
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 3: Really?

904
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I never saw you. I don't care what you

905
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 1: saw me. Yeah you're glass. It wasn't working, but no,

906
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 1: I be free. Let me tell you why, because that's

907
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: really what I was doing with Tip was out. It

908
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: was trapping me and you know, it was trapping and

909
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: me and other people.

910
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: Was trapping, like that's what it means.

911
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 5: The coffee shop.

912
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why I couldn't really I don't get

913
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,479
Speaker 1: that way, but you know that's what it was because

914
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: I was caught up between crunk and snap. I was

915
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: a middle of it was crunk snap trap was right

916
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,439
Speaker 1: there and trap was right there. I was like, well,

917
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 1: I don't really want to glorify the ship I'd have

918
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 1: been through because I got a lot of NIGGASO ain't

919
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: here no more. I don't really want to have to

920
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: glorify that ship.

921
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 2: But I was like, it's.

922
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: Part of the whole layout of what I do. So

923
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: I had sometimes I had some ship that felt like

924
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: it was a little snapping now and sometimes it was

925
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: from trapping though, but it was it was more so

926
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: just me making music coming out of Atlanta. And that's

927
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: why you can and just be like, oh, that's jock sound,

928
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: that's a jock town because I was able to diversify

929
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: my sound because I would jump on the slow tempo

930
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 1: R and B, up tempo R and B, a party record,

931
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: a couple of grand type shit. You know what I'm saying.

932
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: I didn't just type cast myself when it came to

933
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,439
Speaker 1: the sound of what I was doing.

934
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 5: So, yeah, if they put the mount rushmore trap, who

935
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 5: would you got in it?

936
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 2: Best?

937
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 5: For artists who you got on that in Atlanta?

938
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 2: Or No, I can't.

939
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna just do Atlanta. I will probably do

940
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: Tip Jeezy, Gucci Gotti.

941
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 3: Hmmm.

942
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 2: Because of the trap sound Ross.

943
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: Came in the era when I came, me and Ross

944
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: was running Nick and Nick at the same time. Ross

945
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: definitely talked that trap talk, but Ross kind of it

946
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: wasn't just trap talk.

947
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 2: It was like Ross came.

948
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: With a different sound with the live instrumentation, the bigger feeling,

949
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: the bigger sounding records, funically, the music.

950
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 2: So I would definitely put I have to add Ross

951
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 2: on that.

952
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: I have to add Boosie on there, because you had

953
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:20,760
Speaker 1: people coming from other places.

954
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 2: You know, I don't want leave nobody out, you know

955
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 2: what I mean?

956
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 5: But would you consider Gunner and Baby trap the new trap.

957
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 1: Because Atlanta has branded the whole concept of trap music. Yeah,

958
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: but they ain't just trap music. It's still because I mean,

959
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: I mean you could. We're just gonna say, hey, it's

960
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: just Atlanta trap. You know, you got the Trap Museum, trap.

961
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 3: Trap like it's like the word.

962
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 2: But we gotta we gotta keep it a hunted like.

963
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 2: It ain't just trapped music.

964
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:09,240
Speaker 1: It's just it's just good music coming out of Atlanta.

965
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: That's the fact. And we know for trapping we did,

966
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: we did, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, I

967
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: mean that's why because because I know why you're asking that,

968
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: Because I could go back and that, you know, if

969
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: I wanted to come up a few years, I could

970
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: add some futures on uhplies came out talking this ship.

971
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: I could have added some flies and that, you know

972
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying I could have added some little baby,

973
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: some thugs. We're gonna talk about trap if you want

974
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: to make it all be trapped, but I can't say

975
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: it's all just trapped.

976
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 5: You've been celebrated.

977
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:46,720
Speaker 2: I appreciate that, Brother, Jery.

978
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:53,319
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979
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 3: of here.

980
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,640
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981
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:07,360
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982
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:12,920
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983
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,160
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984
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985
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986
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,680
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987
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