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Speaker 4: That led to A the trade for TIF this morning

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Speaker 3: But nonetheless, we got a good.

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Speaker 3: What's like, what's your practice for Tony? Oh it's an

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Speaker 2: For many of those four guys, Yeah, I think pretty

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Speaker 5: A numbers From a numbers standpoint, Did have Ben Travis

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Speaker 1: For our stead we'll get in cyber and feel we're

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