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Speaker 1: Time for a World Series preview. It's powered by MLB

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Speaker 1: Perfect Inning twenty five. So I think we need to

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Speaker 1: start with the roadmap for an upset. The Dodgers are favored.

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Speaker 1: How do the Blue Jays figure out a way to

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Speaker 1: win a series against a team that has four number

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Speaker 1: one starters and just dusted the top record in the sport.

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Speaker 2: It was not a good series.

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Speaker 1: It was an entertaining series on an individual game by

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Speaker 1: game basis. But Tod Father, if you're on the Blue Jays,

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Speaker 1: how do you crack the Dodgers' pitching staff?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think you got to think of it another way.

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Speaker 3: How do you keep putting pressure pitching wise? I think

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Speaker 3: it's going to come down to the Blue Jays pitching.

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Speaker 3: They got to find a way to stop these guys

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Speaker 3: from scoring. I think that's the way you got to

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Speaker 3: go about it. The Dodgers put up a lot of runs,

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Speaker 3: and guess what, they find ways to put pressure on teams.

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Speaker 3: I think the Blue Jays staff is the number one

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Speaker 3: thing they gotta do because they can hit. We know

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Speaker 3: they can eventually hit. They've done it before and they

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Speaker 3: play well in close games. So if they can find

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Speaker 3: a way, they're pitching staff to keep them at bay

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Speaker 3: three four five runs going into the seventh d eighth inning,

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Speaker 3: I think they'll have a chance. And I think that's

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Speaker 3: the biggest thing they have to worry about, is keeping

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Speaker 3: those batters at bay. And if they can do that,

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Speaker 3: we know that eventually they're gonna those bats are gonna

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Speaker 3: come alive. But it's got to be right from Jump

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Speaker 3: Street and again, whoever they start in the beginning, they

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Speaker 3: got to ride that wave a little bit and keep going.

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Speaker 3: So if they can keep the hitters at bay, they're

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Speaker 3: gonna be all right.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, we're showing some of the starters for

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers, like Almamoto and Glass now right now, Toronto

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Speaker 1: makes contact.

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Speaker 2: So did the Bruers.

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Speaker 1: But Toronto's got a lot more slug and star power

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Speaker 1: in there with guys like Springer and Vladdie and even here,

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Speaker 1: I'll bring up a good example because he's been my

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Speaker 1: favorite to watch it the plate. Ernie Clement as a

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Speaker 1: four percent k rate in the postseason and his slogan

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Speaker 1: percentage just six something. I mean, that's the kind of

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Speaker 1: guy that he needs to keep doing what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's top to strike out and he'll rack

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Speaker 1: doubles for you.

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Speaker 4: Here's how the Blue Jays win this series. They survive

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Speaker 4: against the starting pitchers of the Dodgers and their starters

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Speaker 4: match and then they get into the bullpen because guess

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Speaker 4: Roki and Vessio. But if they can get some of

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Speaker 4: these guys out early and make them get to some

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Speaker 4: of the other guys that haven't been as good, that's

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Speaker 4: their shot. Because if you're just gonna let snell Yamamoto

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Speaker 4: glass now and show hey goes six seven innings, you're

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Speaker 4: gonna be in trouble because that means one they're doing well,

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Speaker 4: you're not hitting two. That means Dave Roberts can use

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Speaker 4: to use Vessi and Sazaki a lot in the bullpen

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Speaker 4: try to figure it out from there. So I think

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Speaker 4: the key to this is how well do the Blue

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Speaker 4: Jays starters match the Dodger starters, because I think both

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Speaker 4: teams are going to score some runs yep, and I

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Speaker 4: feel like both bullpens will have some hits and some misses.

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Speaker 4: But if the Blue Jays starters can match the Dodger

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Speaker 4: stars give them a chance. I think if they can

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Speaker 4: knock them out every once in a while early that's

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Speaker 4: their shot. Then you get the Sheans, and you get

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Speaker 4: some other guys that just aren't as as not as good,

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Speaker 4: but as I don't know good in the bullpen, right,

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Speaker 4: I don't know. That to me seems like the key.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So if you're the Blue Jays, how do you

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Speaker 1: prevent the Dodgers starters from going so deep into games?

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Speaker 4: Fell off a bunch of pitches, don't strike out a

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Speaker 4: lot because but don't also have first pitch out. So

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Speaker 4: they do do that too, that's my question.

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Speaker 2: They do early. They're swinging team.

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Speaker 1: The Brewers aren't. Actually the Brewers aren't contact team. But

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Speaker 1: what made them unique this season was that they don't chase.

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Speaker 1: They were one of the best walks chase right whatever,

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Speaker 1: throw it all out the window. For the last series,

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Speaker 1: all of that was gone. They were swinging, chasing at

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Speaker 1: great secondary stuff. But how did the Blue Jays do this?

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Speaker 1: Because often like, what was the one game where they

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Speaker 1: it works great if it works the ball's falling in

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Speaker 2: What do you do? I just hope that the ball

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Speaker 4: I don't know, Listen, I don't know what you do, Listen.

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Speaker 4: I think I think it's gonna be a tough series

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Speaker 4: for the Blue Jays, I do. I think the Dodgers

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Speaker 4: are just a better team one through twenty six. And

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Speaker 4: that's the problem that every team is run into. With

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Speaker 4: the Dodgers, That's why I've had them number one of

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Speaker 4: my power rankings since day one. Claudia, Hey, I think

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Speaker 4: I think they can get a couple of games, though.

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Speaker 4: I think that if they can get it, if they

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Speaker 4: win Game one and put some pressure on the Dodgers

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Speaker 4: and go to La and maybe steal one here and

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Speaker 4: for six and seven, this crowd's gonna go crazy. So

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Speaker 4: that that's kind of how you have to do. You

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Speaker 1: the really famous like headliner coaching wise for the Blue Jays,

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Speaker 1: is actually their hitting coach this year. John Schneider's done

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Speaker 1: a really nice job and he keeps gaining experience. But

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Speaker 1: they love Dave Popkins. I mean even casual fans know

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Speaker 1: who he is.

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Speaker 2: And he was pushed away by the Twins. Right Twins,

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Speaker 2: let him go. He's there.

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Speaker 1: Blue Jays play have talked him up a ton like.

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Speaker 1: I heard one quote from I think it was Varshow

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Speaker 1: this series, who said, let me give you the difference

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Speaker 1: in the past, the way our hitting instruction and coaching

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Speaker 1: he lets everybody be themselves. So with all of that

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Speaker 1: be yourself, if you're a swinger, you're not going to

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Speaker 1: be like, Okay, well, I want to get deep into

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Speaker 2: Right, you're going to keep just playing the way that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and if that's being ready first pitch for a

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Speaker 3: think that's a great concept. I've had coaches like that,

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Speaker 3: We're not going to tinker with anything. Really, maybe something

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Speaker 3: in your mindset, what you're looking for. Are you looking

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Speaker 3: let's figure out what you do best as a hitter,

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Speaker 3: and whatever is the stuff that's you can't do best

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Speaker 3: at let's lay off of that until two strikes. Be you,

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Speaker 3: go out there and that's what got us there. For

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Speaker 3: the Toronto Blue Jays, be you, and let's focus on

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I feel like we've at least painted somewhat

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Speaker 2: What about for the Dodgers.

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Speaker 4: I mean, just be the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: Just be the Dodgers. Just do exactly what you've been

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Speaker 1: doing to a t go out and play. Is there

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Speaker 1: is there a weakness to exploit Blue Jays?

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Speaker 4: The bullpen, it's the bullpen.

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Speaker 2: It's John Schneiner might do it differently this round.

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Speaker 4: I think he's gonna have to use lefties.

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Speaker 2: Use lefties.

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Speaker 1: But I also think that you need to get more

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Speaker 1: Roster, Gosman's going game one or two. Right, it's either

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Speaker 1: you know, how many days it's been. But probably a savage, right,

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Speaker 4: He's got three days, so he's got plenty of Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But but my point is goss and you savage, you

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Speaker 2: I do think he pitches game one or two. In

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Speaker 1: I know it wasn't beautiful last night, right, he got

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Speaker 4: I'm fascinated about how you Savage does against the Dodgers. M.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Freddy Freeman has been incredible for them during his Dodgers' tenure.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to act like they don't have resources,

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Speaker 4: They traded for Glass. They traded for Glass, and obviously

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Speaker 1: Great to see you, and I'll start with this your

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Speaker 6: coached for for a while in the minors, you know, certainly,

438
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Speaker 6: you know, and he'd been on staff, so you know,

439
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,400
Speaker 6: go back to Bobby Winkle maybe, and even he had

440
00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,880
Speaker 6: had time on a big league staff. So so it's

441
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 6: really just such an unknown. If you're a team that

442
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,359
Speaker 6: has a lot of young players, maybe, but the Giants

443
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 6: aren't all young players. They do have five guys who

444
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Speaker 6: are on long term contracts who are more veteran guys,

445
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 6: but they are say, take Matt Chapman. He really took

446
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Speaker 6: to Drew Gilbert. You know, Drew Gilbert's a very sort

447
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:25,399
Speaker 6: of raw rye, you know, collegiate type player, and he

448
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:30,360
Speaker 6: showed that tons of personality, loads of enthusiasm, and Chapman

449
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,959
Speaker 6: loved that. You know that as the team kind of

450
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 6: faltered a little bit down the stretch, I think some

451
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 6: of that stuff maybe got put aside. Drew Gilbert, to

452
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Speaker 6: his credit, didn't haul out the raw ras stuff when

453
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 6: the team was playing poorly. But maybe that is something

454
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Speaker 6: that a team that has struggled to kind of be

455
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Speaker 6: consistent for a few years could use as a little

456
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Speaker 6: more energy, some more enthusiasm. I don't know if that.

457
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Speaker 6: I've never met Tony Vittello. I walked past him once

458
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 6: when the Giants played the Rockies this year. I really

459
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 6: should have stopped and introduced myself. Guys kind of whipped

460
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:12,640
Speaker 6: all that one. But yeah, he's he's got a big personality.

461
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 6: You always wonder sometimes how that plays in a big

462
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 6: league clubhouse, especially with somebody that has no pro experience

463
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 6: of any kind. If you've got a big, big, big

464
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 6: personality to go along with that, there's the potential that

465
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Speaker 6: it could rub some veterans the wrong way.

466
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Speaker 4: Sure, that was gonna be my question, how do we

467
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 4: think this is going to go? Because he's never had

468
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 4: to answer. When you're the head coach of a collegey

469
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 4: you have an ad and but if you're doing well,

470
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 4: they just kind of let you do your own thing.

471
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,640
Speaker 4: They don't really have to answer to anybody. Well, here,

472
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 4: he's got owners, he's got buster, he's got GMS, he's

473
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 4: got players. A lot of times you have to answer

474
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Speaker 4: to how's he going to deal with not being like

475
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 4: the big man on campus? Because in college, you know,

476
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 4: college football coaches are the man. College basketball coaches, college

477
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 4: baseball coaches, they control their Oh you don't like this,

478
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 4: guess what, transfer, We'll find somebody else. So there's a

479
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 4: million people you can find. Big leagues don't work like that.

480
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 4: You have a select few people you can get. So

481
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 4: how's Tony going to adapt to being not the head

482
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Speaker 4: guy in charge?

483
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean there's all sorts of things. The so

484
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,199
Speaker 6: much more media right that that's going to be a

485
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 6: huge difference too. I think he's very good with the media.

486
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 6: It certainly seems like fans so many more fans, and

487
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 6: the fans are going to be as skeptical, I think,

488
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 6: as we're going to hear from a lot of the media.

489
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Speaker 6: So he's going to have to deal with a lot.

490
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Speaker 6: He's going to have an enormous amount on his plate.

491
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Speaker 6: The thing I'm more curious about is who winds up

492
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Speaker 6: being the bench coach. Do you need somebody who's very

493
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Speaker 6: experienced in that spot? And if so, is that do

494
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 6: you sort of feel like, if you're Tony Vittello, is

495
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 6: there's somebody looking over my shoulder all the time. Do

496
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 6: I have to worry that if I, you know, we

497
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Speaker 6: go into a long losing streak, that suddenly I'm going

498
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 6: to get replaced by somebody who's got some former managing experience.

499
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 6: I you know, I would have had the same question

500
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 6: probably if it had been somebody like Nick Huntley, who

501
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 6: was the early front runner before he withdrew his name

502
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 6: for family reasons. And I think still might be potentially

503
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 6: somebody that the Padres are looking at. So there's so

504
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 6: many different aspects to this. It's absolutely fascinating. We're gonna

505
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 6: be able to write about this all off season, which

506
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 6: I guess is a good thing.

507
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Speaker 3: You answered that question too. I was gonna bring up

508
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Speaker 3: Nick Huntley, But how about the other coaching staff? Have

509
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 3: you heard of any wind about what might be? Is

510
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 3: there going to be a whole new revamp of everybody

511
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 3: pretty much, or is there going to be a couple

512
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Speaker 3: of guys that you still know about? Have you heard anything?

513
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Speaker 6: Well, it's going to be interesting, because the Giant said

514
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 6: when they let go Bob Melvin and Matt Williams and

515
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 6: Ryan Christensen both immediately told me that they are leaving

516
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 6: with him. But otherwise, the Giant said that they will

517
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 6: recommend the rest of the coaching staff to whoever the

518
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Speaker 6: new manager is. Now. I would assume that Tony Vitello has,

519
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 6: you know, at least somebody or a couple of guys

520
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 6: that he would like to bring in, but they are

521
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 6: going to need some experience. I thought JP Martinez and

522
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 6: Garvin Alston, the pitching coach and the assistant pitching coach,

523
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,479
Speaker 6: were fantastic last year. It's really tough to argue with

524
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 6: what the job the Giants pitchers did overall. I really

525
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 6: hope they're back. I think the Giants hitting coaches did

526
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 6: a good job, you know, with you know a lot

527
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 6: of things kind of going against them at times. So

528
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Speaker 6: I don't know, I don't know how that's going to

529
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 6: go at all, But to me, it's that bench coach

530
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 6: spot that's going to be really in the you know,

531
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 6: they're going to need some experience. There's just not a

532
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 6: ton of older coaches there.

533
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Speaker 4: So there's enough about the new manager. Let's let's talk

534
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 4: about the team this year, and let's talk Buster. How

535
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Speaker 4: would you rate Buster's first year on the job, including

536
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 4: if this does go down, which everyone is kind of

537
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 4: is expecting it to happen, how would you rate his

538
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 4: first year on the job as president of baseball as well?

539
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 6: You know, it's I really would probably give him a

540
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 6: solid A because of the Dever's trade and doing that

541
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Speaker 6: so early and out of nowhere and giving up not

542
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 6: a ton to get such a great player. The one

543
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 6: stumble that was understandable at the time was trading to

544
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 6: experienced relievers just before the team got hot, which obviously

545
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 6: you don't have a crystal ball, you don't know. They

546
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 6: got very good value in return for those relievers and

547
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 6: Tyler Rodgers and Community Duval, but they then went on

548
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 6: a tear. But the bullpen had so little, you know,

549
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 6: very young guys pitching in different spots that really hurt

550
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 6: them down the stretch. I think that they were a

551
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 6: much better team than they were that final month of

552
00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 6: the season, but the bullpen really struggled, so I still

553
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 6: give him an a. I really I think all the

554
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 6: moves he made at the time were very good, and

555
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 6: the offseason moves too were very good. So he's doing well.

556
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 6: I mean, this is probably his biggest test to date.

557
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 6: So you know, let's get back in another year. Let's

558
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 6: reconfer on a grade for Buster.

559
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Speaker 4: That's really good.

560
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 3: That's really good. He's a stud. I'm talking about free

561
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 3: agents now, where they resign any guys and do you

562
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 3: see them getting after it a top free agents in

563
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 3: the market, because they always seem to be involved, you

564
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 3: know what I mean, And they always seem to get

565
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 3: one or two guys, but it's always that man, why

566
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 3: couldn't we get this person? Do you see this team

567
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 3: in the same direction going in a free agency or

568
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 3: do you see this team kind of you know, maybe

569
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 3: holding back a little bit.

570
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Speaker 6: Well, I think they're really going to want to know

571
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 6: what happens with a lot of guys who either have

572
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 6: team options or potentially are tied to qualifying offers. Kyle Tucker,

573
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Speaker 6: I think is a guy who would they would definitely

574
00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 6: have interest in if he is somebody who is available

575
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 6: on the market and they need another back, they absolutely

576
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 6: need another bat, but almost all of those guys either

577
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 6: have team options, player options, or qualifying offer potential, so

578
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 6: we shall see. They'd very much like to bring back

579
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 6: Justin Verlander. I think the ball is in Verlander's court

580
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 6: on that one. He's pitching it a great ballpark. I mean,

581
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 6: we know why he went there, right, you know, he's

582
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 6: trying to get to three hundred wins. Great ballpark, good defense,

583
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 6: and he pitched really well, particularly in the second half,

584
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 6: really well, so he's going to get offers. But the

585
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 6: record was absolutely not what he wanted. So I don't

586
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 6: know quite how he looks at that. Does the manager

587
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 6: decision or what they do with pitching coach, does that

588
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 6: potentially affect it. I don't know. If he leaves, they

589
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 6: also need a veteran starter. There are going to be

590
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 6: a lot on the market. I certainly know when Bob

591
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 6: Melvin was still the manager, you would looked at, say

592
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 6: Sonny Gray, who absolutely has the best relationship with with

593
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 6: Bob Melvin and would have loved to come there. He's

594
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 6: got to you know, obviously he can decline trades, but

595
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 6: I think you know, a year in a good ballpark

596
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 6: for pictures with you know, Matt Chapman played behind him.

597
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 6: He knows what that's like. That's fantastic for pretty much

598
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 6: any picture. I think he's somebody that could make a

599
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 6: trade for if the asking price isn't too high. So

600
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 6: they've got a lot of options there. But they definitely

601
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 6: will need a veteran picture of some sort, and they

602
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 6: need a bat another bat somehow.

603
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: And the thing that I think Giants fan should be

604
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: excited about is the fact that they'll get that done

605
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: because Posey in year one already has talked his bosses

606
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: into doing a lot of things that it was not

607
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: as easy to do in the past.

608
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 2: Right, he's clearly got cachet.

609
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: Even in this manager situation, Susan Tony Vattello is not

610
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: coming over for a million bucks a year, right, He's

611
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: going to be a more expensive manager. Buster's spending on

612
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: Dever's and a damis and that'll continue. So I think

613
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: Giants fan should be excited about that part. Clearly he's

614
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: got some say. But appreciate the time. We're gonna obviously

615
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: talk more about this. We'll wait till it's official, but

616
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: thanks for hopping on with us, and appreciate the time.

617
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Speaker 6: As always, fantastic Thanks US