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Speaker 1: great core strength, really understands how to play the game.

424
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Speaker 1: I understand he's been five or six years in college,

425
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 1: but he's just a good player. He's smart, um good technique,

426
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 1: and I think he's more than just an outside zone back,

427
00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 1: which they do a lot of there in Minnesota. So um,

428
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 1: I think he's really helped himself. For me, he's my

429
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Speaker 1: O C one, he's my center one, and I think

430
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Speaker 1: he's got a chance to maybe sneak into the back

431
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Speaker 1: half of the first round. So um. Now, there's been

432
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Speaker 1: some other guys I really like, and I'll let you

433
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Speaker 1: pick some out, but I think John Michael Schmidt's, for me,

434
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,480
Speaker 1: has really done a nice job and sprung two long

435
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,159
Speaker 1: runs for uh spears today in the in the in

436
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 1: the scrimmage portion. They also they you know as you

437
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,359
Speaker 1: know too, they say he's got unbelievable makeup at the school.

438
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,399
Speaker 1: Kind of going back through my notes. But when you

439
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,360
Speaker 1: write down on your paper strong, powerful, tough instinctive, that's

440
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,439
Speaker 1: a good place to start at that position with center. Um,

441
00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 1: you know, so he did a nice job handling power

442
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 1: on tape and you've seen it this week as well.

443
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 1: It's a good player. I I I like it from

444
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 1: Wisconsin better who's not down here at my top center Kittman.

445
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 1: But both of those guys are gonna be good starters. Uh,

446
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 1: I mean, we could go through a bunch of these

447
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 1: offensive one I'm just gonna write off some names real

448
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 1: quick of guys. I think our day one starters. In

449
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 1: other ways that I think these guys are ready to go.

450
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 1: You have a team that has a need. I think

451
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 1: these guys can and start right away. Osireus Torrence has

452
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 1: been really good. Darnell Wright has been a little I've

453
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,639
Speaker 1: been a little bit at this point with him just

454
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Speaker 1: because I had such a high grade on it. But

455
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,400
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a starting right tackle Salad of vary

456
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Speaker 1: from Old Dominion. I think it is going to be

457
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Speaker 1: a starting guard. Yes, burge Roon from Syracuse is gonna

458
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 1: end up being either a starting tackle or a starting guard. Schmidts.

459
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 1: We've talked about a Viala from TCU is gonna be

460
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 1: a day when he's playing center down here as well

461
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Speaker 1: as guard. Um, he's gonna be fine. He's gonna be

462
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 1: a start. There's like I was talking to it to

463
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Speaker 1: assistant GM last night and just off this American roster,

464
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,640
Speaker 1: like the seven guys that are coming and they're gonna start,

465
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Speaker 1: and they're gonna start really early. Yeah, I've got a

466
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Speaker 1: sixty three, which is a plus starter at Darnell Right,

467
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Speaker 1: I see the same thing with you, like and he

468
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Speaker 1: even said I he was talking to somebody down on

469
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 1: the field. I was just kind of listening in and

470
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 1: he talked about he was trying some different things today,

471
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,360
Speaker 1: which and he was gonna go back to his basics tomorrow,

472
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,640
Speaker 1: which which might lead to more consistent play. But he said,

473
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 1: you know, Will McDonald's really given him a hard time,

474
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Speaker 1: and we'll we'll probably get to him in a second

475
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Speaker 1: Steve uh Abula or a villa from TC. As you mentioned,

476
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Speaker 1: he's guard center. He's played some center. He's guard center.

477
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 1: He's a left hand snapper, which is a little unusual

478
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Speaker 1: Bergier on. I love as a guard. I think he's

479
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 1: got terrific run blocking, but the pass pro stuff really

480
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 1: needs some work. I wouldn't have high on old dominion, UM,

481
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,199
Speaker 1: but I know some teams that really like him. I

482
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,439
Speaker 1: thought he was much better today than the day before,

483
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Speaker 1: and Osires Torrance has been. So I'm gonna leave here

484
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 1: DJ and I'm gonna go from a sixty three on

485
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 1: him to a sixty four. He is just really his

486
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,919
Speaker 1: makeup is really good. He's well coached. He was well

487
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 1: coach at Louisiana Lafayette. They've you know, they cranked out

488
00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 1: Kevin Dotson starter Steelers, Robert Hunt starter, UM, Miami Dolphins,

489
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 1: and then he transferred, along with his head coach Billy Napier,

490
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: to Florida. But you know, he's gonna be the third

491
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: one from that Louisiana Lafayette connection where he will make

492
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 1: it into the pros and become a starter as well.

493
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 1: And and for me, the tape he had against Jalen Carter,

494
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 1: I thought was awesome. I thought he played really well

495
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 1: against Jalen Carter. And he's continued that. You know, I

496
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: think there's nothing I've seen from him. He's not the

497
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 1: best body guy like for teams who really love like

498
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: like like a Kevin Willis per se, you know, like

499
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: like you mean the short armed Kevin. Oh boy, you

500
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: are into your rockets backing today now, Kevin Willis the

501
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 1: rex h Q Shipley of the center position. Alright, alright,

502
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: because we're taking some time here, let's go. I'm gonna

503
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 1: just give you three guys on defense real quick, and

504
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: then you give me three guys real quick. I'm gonna go.

505
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 1: Tyreek Stevenson has been as good as I hoped he

506
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: would be. I think he's been really physical. He can

507
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: really run the corner from Miami. Um. I think he's

508
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 1: made plays both days. He's been impressive to me. Um,

509
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: I look at the linebacker, who's gonna be kind of

510
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: a nickel player from Sex State, Marte ma Poo has

511
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: done a nice job. He's only two d seventeen pounds,

512
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 1: but I think he's gonna find a spot. He's gonna

513
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 1: find a role on third down with some of the

514
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 1: things he can do. And then I'll go with Will.

515
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: I'll go with Will McDonald just for the bend in

516
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 1: the agility and the nasty spin move that he has

517
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 1: hold on. Do you think he could end up being

518
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: a will linebacker instead full time? Yeah, But I just

519
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 1: think that those those don't really exist anymore. You know,

520
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 1: like kind of those those overhang linebackers, nobody plays with them.

521
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: You're playing with the big nickel out there. You're playing

522
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 1: with inside linebackers, kind of that off the ball outside

523
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: linebacker role. Just you're gonna be a nickel. Those guys

524
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 1: don't play. So I think to me, he's gonna be

525
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 1: a nickel backer. So I don't think he plays every down,

526
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: but I think he gets on the field and sub

527
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 1: and I think he's gonna be hell on wheels a

528
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: special team er. I think Jamie Robinson for me, I

529
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 1: thought he had some really good reps today in terms

530
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 1: of just smothering guys um at the break point. He's

531
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: a physical guy. He's he's he I like the way

532
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: he plays, I like his makeup. Um, you know, I

533
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 1: think a guy that's not getting a lot of conversation

534
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: that probably deserves a little bit more is uh is

535
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: Eku Leota from Auburn. He just is rock steady. He's

536
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: a he's an edge who. I think it's gonna be

537
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: a Day three pick that's gonna end up at some

538
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 1: point becoming a starter in the league. I think he's

539
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 1: I think he's physical, he's he's a little more consistent

540
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,719
Speaker 1: than the guy is gonna be drafted a lot higher

541
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 1: than him. His his teammate Derek Hall. I think there's

542
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: a little more consistency from him. So he's a guy

543
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 1: that I think has played well out of here. He just,

544
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: you know, you just you don't hear a lot from him.

545
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: As you mentioned, Will McDonald is terrific. And any other

546
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: guy that I would say has made some uh that

547
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: probably has made himself some money has been Zack Pickens.

548
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: Zack Pickens, a couple of Alignment talked about who's who's

549
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 1: been the toughest guy to match up against. They say

550
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: Pickens has been a guy who has really cost some

551
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: issues for them because you know, he plays really explosively

552
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 1: at the point of attack. So that would be my

553
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: d ffensive lineman. And I'm I'm taking a look at

554
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: I kind of kind of like, do you like him?

555
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: Would you like me like him? Or Othella Harrington? Who

556
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: would you like better? Between those? Oh? No, no, no?

557
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 1: If I need to well, I mean it depends on

558
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 1: what we're doing. Are we looking for a left hand

559
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 1: jump hooking block or we're looking at trying to two

560
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: gap and and occasionally one gap was some power on

561
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: the edge. I mean, what are we trying to do?

562
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 1: What are we trying to All we've done is pull

563
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: up like yea two thousand seven? What do you have?

564
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: Basketball reference? That's that? That's it rolled right through? Is

565
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 1: that your three? Did you give me three? Yeah? Those

566
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,719
Speaker 1: are my three? But I actually think DJ like I

567
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 1: like the kid Cam Young from Mississippi State. I think

568
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: this is a really good draft rounds three through five,

569
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 1: maybe even two through five for interior defensive linement. I

570
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 1: think if you need a defensive lineman with some length

571
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: and some some toughness inside, this is gonna be a

572
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: really good year to find interior U lineman who can

573
00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: be rotational or eventual starters. And that's some thing that

574
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: we have had some issues find a d tackles in

575
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: the last few drafts. All right, let's let's take a

576
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: quick break here. We're gonna come back. We're gonna flip

577
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: it over to the national team roster, give you some

578
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: other names that have popped from there, and then I'll

579
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: give you a couple of nuggets on my top fifty,

580
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: which is out, and then we'll, uh, we'll be on

581
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: our way. But let's say a quick break. We'll come

582
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: back and hit on the national team. All right, lands,

583
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: let's let's switch it over here to this national team roster.

584
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: Let's start on the defensive side here, um, and we

585
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: can then flip over to the offensive side in just

586
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 1: a moment. As you look at the defensive side here,

587
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: let's look at the defensive lineman and what you've seen

588
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: from those guys. Kean White came in as my highest

589
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: rated player really in the entire game, and you see

590
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: all the traits that are there. Maybe hasn't been as

591
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: dominant as I hope that he would be down here,

592
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 1: but you can see it's all there. He has everything,

593
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,479
Speaker 1: and it's on tape. Um, you know, my, my, my

594
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: issues on tape, and they're not really issues. Was he

595
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: wasn't a very instinctive player in terms of low okating

596
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: the run, especially as a as a run player. But

597
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: I don't get to like, I don't all the things

598
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: that you're maybe a little concerned if you put him

599
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: at number nine, which I know you have them really high.

600
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: I still think he's gonna end up being a dude.

601
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: I mean, when you see him on the hoof, it's unbelievable.

602
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: It's it's truly two pounds of lean mass. It's he

603
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: is really really impressive. You can see the explosiveness. I

604
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,719
Speaker 1: still feel like he's just learning how to play and

605
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: uh and and there are times sometimes you look at

606
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: him down on the drills and you wonder if he

607
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 1: knows how to attack it to make himself, you know,

608
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: look the best he can look on that particular drill.

609
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: I just think he's just trying to go forward and

610
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: and be physical. I don't think from a technique standpoint,

611
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: he's there yet. So I'm a big believer in those

612
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: traits and guys who look a certain way, and man,

613
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: he looks a certain way. He's been really impressive to

614
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: look at. But yeah, I still think he's learning to

615
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: play the game. Keanu Benton from Wisconsin along that defensive front,

616
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: I think has been pretty dominant what we've seen from

617
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: him at six three and a half three twelve pounds.

618
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: You know he's got power, But to me, I thought

619
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: his quickness and being able to get up the field

620
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: has been impressive. What about added to mewa um at

621
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: a boire, I think I did that, Okay, you yeah,

622
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what he's physical on tape. I like

623
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: him as a three technique. I know they lined him

624
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: up some down low, they lined him up on the edge,

625
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: they lined him up pounds. Yeah, I mean I I

626
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: don't feel like looking at his body. I feel like

627
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: he can add tend to fifteen pretty easily and he's

628
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: really strong placed with great leverage. Um. I kind of

629
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: like some of the reps he's he's had. It looks like,

630
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: you know, no one outpowers him, no one out muscles him,

631
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: and that's one of the things I've really liked about him. Um,

632
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: we'll go to the linebackers here. He talked about Hindley

633
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: at the top of the show from Washington State, both

634
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: in coverage and as a rushier, he's done a nice job.

635
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: He's put together to two pounds, but he looks he

636
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: plays a little bit heavier than that. He can really

637
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: really run. So when I'm watching linebackers, I start with

638
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: Kim they cover uh and I thought he's past that

639
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: test with flying colors. O. Man, I I'm gonna have

640
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: to go back and reassess that one because he is uh. Boy,

641
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: he's looking he looks great in the uniform. He moves

642
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: really really well, you know, aggressive. This is not an

643
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: issue for him. A guy I want to point out

644
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,719
Speaker 1: that I think is I think we need to have

645
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: this conversation now, DJ, and this is not one of

646
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: my exciting guys. It's it's it's how much patience do

647
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: you have? And that's Andre Carter and I didn't get

648
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: a chance to listen to you, and and Charles talked

649
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: about him, but I mean, it's clear he's about twenty

650
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: pounds away and it's gonna think Senior ball has really

651
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: exposed the fact that he's got to get a lot stronger.

652
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: And I just he's a total red shirt next year

653
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: for me. And you know, talking to a coach who

654
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: was here who used to coach at the academy. He said, Look, Lands,

655
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: the training table is not the greatest, he said, But

656
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: the other thing is these kids have besides the football stuff,

657
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: they've got rigorous physical training and thinks that it's it's hard.

658
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: It's not designed to put their weight programs designed to

659
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: put heavy amounts of muscle and and you know, to

660
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: bulk up because obviously the army, there's there's other stuff

661
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: going on there. Um, I just I'm curious about your

662
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: thoughts because I didn't get to hear it on television

663
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: about what you saw from Carter. There's traits there, there's

664
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: a body type to add to add weight, there's athleticism.

665
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: But man, I just think it's really been jarring to

666
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: watch him going up against you know, the power and

667
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: have such a problem. I mean, Dawan Jones day one

668
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: is not the guy you want to see. That's not

669
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: the guy so from Ohio State, the big mountain of

670
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: a man who just kind of pushed him around. And

671
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: that's the whole thing. He just needs to get physically stronger,

672
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: especially in the up top, you know. So that's uh,

673
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: you know, there's stuff to work with. It's gonna be

674
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: a little bit of a project. You know, it's no

675
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: different than like a Bob Surf coming out of Florida

676
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: State going. I thought, sir, it was game ready, but

677
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: I know what you mean, maybe more of a Robert

678
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: Ory type. I've now moved on to the two thousand

679
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: four roster. I exhausted all the interesting names from the

680
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: nineties rockets, so now I've moved on to the two.

681
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,479
Speaker 1: I'm hanging true, so I'd like to do it. I'm

682
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: not gonna get It's not a problem. I can do

683
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: this all day. Ley Moss, how about Riley Moss? Speaking

684
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: of Bob, sir, how about Riley Moss out there? Yeah?

685
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: Speaking of Okay, so do we want to have this conversation.

686
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: He's a corner, so he's a cornerback. He's not a safety.

687
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: I think he can play safety. But he's a corner

688
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: and he's going to be uh, he's going to be

689
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: the fun topic because he's a white cornerback. Okay, But

690
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: the thing is he's a legitimate cornerback. He can, he

691
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: can he's a he can play cover two if he

692
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: needs to. I think he can play cover three. I

693
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: think you look good whenever they run shell coverages. He's

694
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: pretty instinctive and reactive. Uh, he'll come up and tackle you.

695
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: He's got to prove he can stay healthy. Riley moss

696
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: is a legitimate cornerback. I think he's probably a Day

697
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: three early Day three cornerback, is my guest. But Riley

698
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: Mosses looked pretty good out here as well. I think

699
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: he's and he's got good size. I mean, he's got

700
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: some cool. He's twitchy. He's very twitchy. He's very said,

701
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 1: not like a Scott Pageant. He's got big he's that

702
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: big time burst he's got. He's been he's been impressive.

703
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: All right. Now we can go to the offensive side

704
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: of the ball. Jake Canner is kind of a I

705
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: mean he's got a little game or quality to him.

706
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: Um run around out there. He can, he can throw

707
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: the ball. He's accurate, I think from the velocity standpoint,

708
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: all the you know, I haven't looked at all the

709
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,479
Speaker 1: Zebra technology stuff, but I think so far he's had

710
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,479
Speaker 1: the strongest arm if I'm not mistaken it. So Um,

711
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: you know, he's six feet tall, he's two hundred eight pounds.

712
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: But he's gonna get he's gonna get the benefit of

713
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: what we've seen. Brock purty do it's gonna help him. Yeah,

714
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: Mallie Cunningham practice today. He didn't practice the straight at

715
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: his stomach issue. From what I understand it, He's interesting

716
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: because you know there's not gonna be three quarterbacks draft

717
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: that under two hundred pounds. Rice Young will be stets

718
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: and Bennett will be I don't see Malie Cunningham, but

719
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: he is a terrific runner on tape, very instinctive, great vision,

720
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: make you miss all over the place. I'm curious to

721
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: see if they do anything with him in this game

722
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,239
Speaker 1: that shows that off or what it's gonna look from

723
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: Malik coming, you know going forward. Are they gonna try

724
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: to put him in packages because he is an undersized quarterback,

725
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: or they're gonna put him in packages? Are they gonna

726
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: try to move him to a different position? But he

727
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: is an electric athlete and really hard to tackle in space,

728
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: and he's got some juice to to hit the run.

729
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: You know who's so much fun to watch? When I

730
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: when I think of you know, Kevin Willis was a

731
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: well defined athlete, a strong guy. But so I don't

732
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: know who I can go to from a rocket standpoint

733
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: here for you, but watching the Brown twins Chase and

734
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: Sydney from the line, I I'll stick with Chase Brown.

735
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: There's a level of consistency to the way he plays.

736
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: It's like you're gonna get the same back every single snap.

737
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: He is chiseled, I mean, just completely rocked up. But

738
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: I mean there's something about his game that that I like,

739
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: there's just the sameness of every single record. He's like that.

740
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: He's like a Jim Jackson, you know. Yeah, he's similar

741
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: I would say, Harold and productive from the Big Ten. Yeah,

742
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 1: from the Big Ten, same as the same as Jimmy Jackson. Yeah,

743
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: bab five, but just kind of you know, not playing

744
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: the leading role there. That's fine. What Jim Jackson's he?

745
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: Ohio State? Where was he? Yeah? Big ted That's what

746
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: I said. Okay, I was thinking, why am I thinking

747
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: of the guy that played Jim Jackson was Ohio State?

748
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: Trying to line? Are you trying to go with the nicknames? No,

749
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: I was thinking of I was thinking of who was

750
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: the other members of you know, with Webber and Juwan

751
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 1: Howard of the Fab five that you gotta go, Jalen

752
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: Rose or Jimmy Oh there was a Jim Um Yeah, yeah,

753
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: not Jimmy Not Jimmy Jackson, Ray Jackson, Ray Jackson. There

754
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: you me, No, there was a Jimmy. Yeah, there's a

755
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: Ray Jackson. Jimmy. Uh, I'll think of his name in

756
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: a second. I know, I know, Sammy King, Jimmy King,

757
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 1: the bell in the chat, Jimmy King. Nice Paul Um.

758
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: All right, so let's go through a couple more guys

759
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: here the receiver group. Who cool? I thought it a

760
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: great first day, and then he was not out there

761
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: again from b y U. He's a good football are um,

762
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 1: but he was not out there. And then uh, I thought,

763
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: Michael Wilson is gonna be a great special teams player.

764
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: Can run a little bit better than you think from

765
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 1: out there at Stanford. He's flashed a little bit. Anybody

766
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: else in that receiver group there with the national squad

767
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: do anything for it. I thought Trey Palmer had a

768
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: good had some good catches today. Um, Jaden Reid, Yeah,

769
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: he's been good. Jade Reid had a really I thought

770
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 1: he had a good a really good day, a really

771
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: good day today. Or maybe it was trade Maybe not

772
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: Trey Palmer. Maybe I'm thinking of trade Tucker. One of

773
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: the trades played well. But m Randy Bell is another

774
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: one really just a solid, solid player for me. So

775
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: what do you do with Elijah Hickens. So I haven't

776
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: really noticed him very much out here, but he's I

777
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: talked to David Shaw about him coaching at Stanford, said

778
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: he he thought there was a chance he might try

779
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: and add some weight and just be a tight end.

780
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 1: Played at two five and he went the other way.

781
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: He dropped some weight and came here at two So

782
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: interesting there the tight ends. I I mean Josh Wiley

783
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: from Cincinnati did not realized he is that big. He

784
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: is six six and a half two hundred and sixty pounds.

785
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: You know, he's gained He's gained about twenty five pounds

786
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: from last year. He's gaining weight. He's any thicker than

787
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: he was. So I wrote him up last year, dj

788
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: I thought he was coming out and he went back

789
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: and he's a different body type this year. And it's

790
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: it's impressive. It's impressive, and you know what, he's got

791
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: some toughness to him now. He had to take on

792
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: guys who are a lot bigger and stronger, and he's

793
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: and he's stuck in there like it's not always about

794
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: it's not always about how you perform, like how well

795
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: you do at the point of attack, it's how willing

796
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 1: are you at the point of attack, And and that's

797
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 1: one thing that I think Josh has really improved this year.

798
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: Davis Allen. Allen is another guy who will you know,

799
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: he'll put his nose in and do what he needs

800
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: to do. Um. Two more names and then we'll we'll

801
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: move on here. But Cody Mauck from North Dakota State

802
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 1: was a left tackle. He doesn't have long arms. He

803
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: shows up here he's playing guard, he's playing center. He's

804
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: really stacked two good days together. Uh, he's really helped himself.

805
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: He's gonna go in the second round. He's not out

806
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: of the second round in my opinion. Then you look

807
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: at Dawan Jones, who's six seventy five pounds, and nobody

808
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: got a sniff day one because a little bit beat up,

809
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: I guess, so it was not out there today. We'll

810
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: see if he uh forgot the Senior Bowl flu or

811
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: whether or not we see him anymore this week. But

812
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: his first day, UM, I thought he moved around better

813
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 1: than I gave him credit for watching him on tape.

814
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: So he helped himself yeah. He No one tried to

815
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: pressure him inside. They all tried to go around there.

816
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: I said, I said the same thing. And while we're

817
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: calling the practice, I don't know you. Obviously we're not listening. Um,

818
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 1: but I you're trying to go through him. It's dumb.

819
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: You're even trying to beat him on the highset. That umb.

820
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: You've got to get his feet moving. Same with File

821
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,479
Speaker 1: last year, a big giant of a man. You gotta

822
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: get your feet moving, and you gotta cross their face.

823
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 1: You gotta up and under him to death. Nobody nobody

824
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: hit him with it. Nobody did that. They all tried

825
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 1: to ride the outside and he's just like, thank you,

826
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: ride you to the ground. How's this feel? That was

827
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: one guy that didn't play here. But I want you

828
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: to keep an eye on DJ who Flash when I

829
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: was watching him before I came, and he played at

830
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: the I think the NFL p A and uh, he's

831
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: got an injury to his right risk is kid named

832
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: Joey Fisher from Shepherd and he was three hundred like

833
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: he was. He's about two ninety two now. But that's

834
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: because he said, you know, his trainers wanted him to

835
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: lose weight and be quick. I told him, dude, I said,

836
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: what you play at He said three ten, three fifteen.

837
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: I said, go be three fifteen because you're a great athlete.

838
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 1: He's a former defensive player. He was Maryland recruited him

839
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 1: as a defensive end and he was about two hundred

840
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: seventy pounds and then when when they got rid of

841
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: their head coach, he lost his his scholarship offer and

842
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: he ended up going to Shepherd. And I'm telling you

843
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: right now, he's tough, he's athletic. He played heavier on tape.

844
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna watch the tape. Level. Comp is

845
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: always an issue, and I really wanted it to see

846
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: him out here, But I think this is gonna be

847
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 1: one of these quiet guys. I think he I think

848
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: he would have flashed here at the Senior Bowl and

849
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: people didn't get to see him because he can't play.

850
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: But this is the guy to keep your eye on.

851
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 1: I think Joey Fisher has some day to potential as

852
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: a six to six point two. I get him a

853
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: sixty two DJ, which means I think he's got a

854
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: chance to be a starting guard. He's the right tackle

855
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: it Shepherd, but looks great body type wise, too to

856
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: ninety two, and I think he can easily add this weight,

857
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: So keep an eye on him. I know he didn't play,

858
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: but I want to just throw his name out there

859
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: for people to keep an eye on as the draft

860
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 1: process unfolds. Kind of like a Clarence Weatherspoon type, you know. Yeah,

861
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: he's a lot like Spoon where he can play like

862
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: the hybrid guy. He can play a three year of four,

863
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: an undersize four. He's an undersized tackle. I think the

864
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: three is Spoon's natural position. But you know, he just

865
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 1: didn't really have the range to shoot outside. He couldn't

866
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: play three. Now in today's NBA, No chance we're going

867
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: down rockets memory lane here. Um all right, real quick? Uh,

868
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: top fifty list has come out. My top three players

869
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: I think we had when we discussed this on the

870
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: phone the other day, we ended up I think the

871
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: top four players we have the same time, same on

872
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: the top four, which has never happened since we've been

873
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: talking about players and coming to the draft. And the

874
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: weird thing is we have the same top players in

875
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: a year where I don't think there's easy you know,

876
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: it's not like, okay, well, Joe Burrows, this guy you

877
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: know it's Chase Young and then Joe Burrow or Joe

878
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: bur It's not like that. It's it's open, but it

879
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: is wide open DJ. But I think when you and

880
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 1: I both come from a place where we do look

881
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: for certain traits, and we do watch the tape and

882
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: study it carefully, and I think we we see players

883
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: sometimes similarly, or at least our processes and our top four.

884
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: You know, you're number four and my number four the same.

885
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: Just because he's just the top five player. He's not

886
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 1: gonna get drafted on the top plot five, but that's

887
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,479
Speaker 1: what the tape shows. Yeah, and we're on the same

888
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: page there. So um, if you look up my my

889
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 1: top fifty, you can find it on NFL dot com.

890
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: I think it's just NFL dot com slash h DJ

891
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: top fifty if I'm not mistaken. That's some fancy little

892
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: u r L that they do on there. Maybe it's

893
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: just NFL dot com slash top fifth. Yeah, you'll find

894
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: it just uh, just going NFL dot com. It'll be

895
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: out there. My top four players, starting at number one

896
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 1: is Jalen Carter, the defensive tackle from Georgia. Then it's

897
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 1: Will Anderson, ed rusher from Alabama, his teammate Bryce Young's

898
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: number three, and Bijean Robinson from Texas. I know it's

899
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: a running back, but he's you know, he's just the

900
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: fourth highest graded player for both of us. As we

901
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: head towards the draft, then it starts to change, you know,

902
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: with with Lance and I. But uh, that's something you

903
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 1: can check out a NFL dot com. By the way,

904
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: you see Tyree Wilson, he is down here meeting with

905
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: some teams. Yeah, I talked to him. He shook my hand.

906
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that his finger hit my elbow. I mean,

907
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: he is a is a long, long dude with very

908
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: big hands. Two hundred and seventy five pounds right now

909
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: or he's to seventy right now, played at two seventy five.

910
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: He was good to talk to. I told him, I said, listen,

911
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: when football is over, make sure you're ready to you know,

912
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: once your football careers over, make sure you can. I said,

913
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: he's he's fun to talk to. Great personality. I said,

914
00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 1: you seem like you'd be pretty good at this. I said,

915
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 1: you ought to try to go get DJ Shob Daniel Jeremiah.

916
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: There is a guy who struggles with a lot of things.

917
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: He's doing. He doesn't have you in the top five.

918
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: I do. I happen to have you five. DJ doesn't

919
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: he go and he just said, listen, the best way

920
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: to hurt him is to play well and then go

921
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: take his job, and I'm done playing football. That's a

922
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: that's a good option. That's a good option. He is

923
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,720
Speaker 1: the yelling of addressers. He I love that length um

924
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 1: U for you, like where's yallfitt in here? Rockets reference

925
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: during a football podcast as uh, that's gonna do it

926
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: for said Lance. You're a You're a gem of a

927
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: human being for for filling in for Bucky. They've been

928
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: down to the East West, him and Rhet doing the

929
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: Lord's work down there in Vegas. They're gonna be on

930
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: the coverage of that game, which is Thursday evening. UM

931
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: and then again you can check out the Senior Bowl

932
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: on NFL Network that is on Saturday. I appreciate you

933
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: guys hang with, appreciate your listen to the show. We'll

934
00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: see you next time right here on the sticks to

935
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: want to go to Lott