WEBVTT - How Men Think with Jeff Timmons

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<v Speaker 1>We're taking you inside the mind of a man. This

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<v Speaker 1>is how Men Thick and I heard radio podcast. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on everybody. I'm Jeff Timmins and you may

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<v Speaker 1>know me from the boyband Degrees. I'm so happy and

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<v Speaker 1>thrilled to be guest hosting How Men Think. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>answer all your questions and try to help you understand

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<v Speaker 1>how Men Think. But first, this is eleven Questions with

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Timmins. So let's get into it. What are you

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<v Speaker 1>known for? Well? Uh, mostly known for being a member

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<v Speaker 1>of ninety eight Degrees, which has been an amazing run

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<v Speaker 1>for me. It's our twenty fifth year. Uh this year

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<v Speaker 1>Degrees being in existence. Although it makes me feel really old,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel very blessed and fortunate to get out there

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<v Speaker 1>and still be performing for such wonderful fans and be

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<v Speaker 1>doing this for a living and supporting my family. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think all of you a little bit about me.

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<v Speaker 1>I love music, of course, that's the obvious thing. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a big family man. I've got five kids, They're all amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been very blessed, got a beautiful wife, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know I like to work behind the scenes as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a big studio guy. Um like to do music

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<v Speaker 1>and produce stuff for other people, I mean the tech space.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like to keep busy. So who am I in

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<v Speaker 1>my personal life? I'm just a guy that likes the

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<v Speaker 1>screw around. I don't take myself too seriously at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I take other people seriously. But I like to have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun, roll with the flow, make people laugh,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, enjoy family and friends and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the little things in life are are very very important

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<v Speaker 1>to me. All right. What are three shows that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>binge watching. Well, there's a show called Elite. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these Spanish shows that are translated to English

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<v Speaker 1>on Netflix that I really love. Elite is one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Money Heisten is another one. And then I've really been

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<v Speaker 1>kind of getting my guilty pleasure from the Pam and

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy story on Hulu, which I absolutely love. What is

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite food? Well, it's kind of a toss up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a low carb guy, so it's usually meat and

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<v Speaker 1>cheese and seafood and things like that. I would have

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<v Speaker 1>to say steak and lobster. I'm you know, I like

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<v Speaker 1>the finer things in life, so I'd say steaks, steak,

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<v Speaker 1>steak and lobster my favorite foods. Tell us about your career, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I have been totally blessed. Uh, it's been a wonderful ride.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm from a very small town in Ohio where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of not a lot of people kind of

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<v Speaker 1>venture off into the entertainment business. UM. I was inspired

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<v Speaker 1>by the group Boys Two Men and wanted to create

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<v Speaker 1>a similar group just like that. Um, we didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet and uh things that like like like um,

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter and Snapchat and YouTube at our disposal and TikTok,

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<v Speaker 1>so you literally had to go pursue your dreams. I

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<v Speaker 1>drove with my original band across the country to l

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<v Speaker 1>a Um to pursue the dream and got lucky. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>We ended up singing backstage at a Boys de Men

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<v Speaker 1>concert ironically, and we're fortunate enough to get signed and

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<v Speaker 1>we got signed to Motown Records, which is a legendary label. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>like Boys Demand Did. We toured the world, we sold

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<v Speaker 1>millions and millions of records and we're still around twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five years later with great fans that embrace our music

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<v Speaker 1>and we enjoy the camaraderie of our brotherhood of getting

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<v Speaker 1>up on stage and acting silly and singing songs for

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<v Speaker 1>our living. So it's been a blessing. We've got to

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<v Speaker 1>perform with Stevie Wonder on a song for Disney's Mulan

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<v Speaker 1>with Mariah Carey that went and Joe that a song

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<v Speaker 1>that went number one. We got to perform for Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson with Usher and Luther Vandrow's anything you can imagine.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been fortunate enough to do and and we never

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<v Speaker 1>took different granted. So it's been an amazing ride. What's

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<v Speaker 1>my biggest fear in life? I think just not being successful.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think that, uh you know, it's important

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<v Speaker 1>for me to always get better every day. Uh, never

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<v Speaker 1>settled for mediocrity. I don't expect that of everybody else

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<v Speaker 1>that I meet in my life, particularly my beautiful wife

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<v Speaker 1>and my kids. But for me, it's always achieving something

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<v Speaker 1>new and it doesn't necessarily have to do with monetization

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<v Speaker 1>and making money or being famous. It's just getting better

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<v Speaker 1>every day. So my fear is to become relaxed and

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<v Speaker 1>not be a success or not really have the influence

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<v Speaker 1>and impact that I hope to do to encourage others

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<v Speaker 1>to pursue their dreams. So the fear of failure is

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<v Speaker 1>probably my biggest driver, ah, my biggest pet peeve. On

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<v Speaker 1>that note, I despise people that are lazy. I like

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<v Speaker 1>people that like to kick back and take it easy,

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<v Speaker 1>but laziness drives me absolutely crazy. Absolutely my pet peete laziness.

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<v Speaker 1>What makes me most happy seeing smiling faces in my family.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think it's really really important. Um. The

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<v Speaker 1>world is always, uh, you know, a challenging place to

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<v Speaker 1>live in and life is hard, so you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>small victories for me or when I see smiling faces

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<v Speaker 1>on all of my kids, I see happy faces, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when my wife's happy, that's always nice. My

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<v Speaker 1>ideal Saturday morning, well, you know, Saturday, the day is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of blur together. I travel a lot. I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>fortunate to do, and um, so Saturdays could be a Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>it could be a Monday. I'm always working, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a really very fortunate thing for myself. Um, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if if you're talking about the weekend, a Saturday morning

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<v Speaker 1>would be watching college football. I know that's a boring answer,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm a big sports fan and being from a

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<v Speaker 1>small town in Ohio that revolves around football, Massillon, Ohio, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I love watching my college football and I'm just hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with my kids on a Saturday if I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>town and if we're all together. But traditionally I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>watching college football, either with the guys in ninety eight

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<v Speaker 1>degrees or even by myself. But that's a that's a

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<v Speaker 1>typical Saturday for me. Am, I'm more of an athlete

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<v Speaker 1>or our share quarterback. Um, well, I'd like to think.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to think of an athlete. I but you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, I'm just I'm coming to terms with the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that I'm not that good of an athlete, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sort of both. I try to keep in shape.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to play football collegiately, and of course in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL where I'm from, it's all about that. And

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately I was vertically challenged. I didn't have enough skills,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't good. I mean, the list goes on and on.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would say now I've I've come to terms

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<v Speaker 1>with the fact that I'm an arm chair quarterback. I

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<v Speaker 1>watched you criticize the coaches and throw stuff at the

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<v Speaker 1>TV and say they should have any better choices and

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff. But at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just a fan like everybody else. What keeps you motivated? Um? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of self motivation. UM. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you know, striving to be successful is an important thing

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<v Speaker 1>for me, and to get better every day. Like I mentioned, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but my family does you know? I want to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to provide for them so they don't have to struggle.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been very fortunate, but you know, along the ways

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<v Speaker 1>there are high highs and low lows in the entertainment industry.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I can prevent anybody in my life, not

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<v Speaker 1>just my family, but groups and bands and artists that

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<v Speaker 1>I mentor or just people along the way that I

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<v Speaker 1>meet in life, if I can um prevent them from

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<v Speaker 1>having some of those low lows. Uh, that's very very

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<v Speaker 1>motivating for me in life. So that was eleven questions

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<v Speaker 1>and now we're going to get right into some of

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<v Speaker 1>your phone calls. Hi Meggan, are you there? Hi? Hi?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you? I'm good? How are you? Wow? Such

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<v Speaker 1>a clear, clean sound coming from your computer. Oh, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>I am using my earbuds. Oh nice, nice, Nice to

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<v Speaker 1>meet you too. So do you have a question for

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<v Speaker 1>me or anything you want to talk about. I do

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<v Speaker 1>have a question for you. Okay, here's the deal. A

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<v Speaker 1>guy asked me on a date, and then on the

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<v Speaker 1>day of the day, I didn't hear from him. So

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<v Speaker 1>I reached out to him like two hours before to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure we were on and he bales and says

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<v Speaker 1>he has to go to his friend's mother's birthday dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>So that seems kind of like a cop out. But whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>indeed does seem like a cop out, I don't think that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think that obviously you want to follow

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<v Speaker 1>up to make sure that the data is still on

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<v Speaker 1>and all that good stuff, and and sometimes that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff can be awkward. But the fact that he

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<v Speaker 1>canceled if it was a different excuse, for example, if

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<v Speaker 1>he had kids or it was his own mother, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was his friend's mother's birthday, and you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>you reached out to him two hours beforehand instead of

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<v Speaker 1>him reaching out to you to kind of let him know,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like he bailed time to move on. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>But see, now here's my follow up though, he just

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<v Speaker 1>asked me out on another day, So like, do I

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<v Speaker 1>give him another try or am I? Like? Nah? I

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<v Speaker 1>think maybe a conversation would be had about why he canceled.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of feel out the vibe on the phone, right yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>time call, which you can really kind of tell cues

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<v Speaker 1>with people's visuals right lying in the queues there, um,

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<v Speaker 1>with the spatial expressions and all that, and maybe saying hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I totally forgot, I'm so sorry. I want to make

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<v Speaker 1>it up to you, or he says, well, uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>he if he does that, obviously a second date, well,

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<v Speaker 1>a first second date isn't an effect. I don't think. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a good plan. I like that. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a relationship expert, but you know, no, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's helpful because I just couldn't even tell, like I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't even know how to I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how to perceive with this, like what's your deal?

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<v Speaker 1>So that's great. You got to feel the vibe out

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<v Speaker 1>on all this stuff for sure. Thank you. Bye bye,

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Simona, how are you? I'm good? How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good. I'm enjoying this. Uh, this Q and A

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm doing with people that are calling it about

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<v Speaker 1>relationship advice. The worst guy in the planet to give advice,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'll do my best. What kind of questions do

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<v Speaker 1>you have for me today. Well, okay, so my question is,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so, I'm a divorced mom of two kids and

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<v Speaker 1>dating kind of sucks right now. Um, I'll have a

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<v Speaker 1>great date, and then as soon as my date hears

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<v Speaker 1>about my kids, it doesn't go further. Um. So my

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<v Speaker 1>question is how far into dating someone should I bring

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<v Speaker 1>up my kids? Is there a way to do that

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<v Speaker 1>that won't scare them off? Well? Look, I mean anybody

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<v Speaker 1>that you want to be with long term, it depends

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<v Speaker 1>on whether you're looking for a long term relationship or

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<v Speaker 1>you just out there looking to have fun. Right. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're out there looking to have fun, you can mention

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<v Speaker 1>them later, mention your kids later on in your dating process.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think if you're serious about settling down with somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>finding the one, I think you got to mention your

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<v Speaker 1>kids right away. I mean, with with me, I always

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<v Speaker 1>talked about my kids right away, and if that was

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<v Speaker 1>an issue, then that was an automatical, automatic X out

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<v Speaker 1>for for me. With uh with that, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously my children are the most important thing to me

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<v Speaker 1>in my entire life. So if someone is kind of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, getting scared or afraid of you because you

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<v Speaker 1>have kids, I mean I say run for the hills.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I said in the beginning of the conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're just going to have fun and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a long term thing, then it might

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily be a topic of conversation. Okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, thanks Semona. Hi, Kate, how are you? Hey? Good?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you nice? To be connected with you over

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<v Speaker 1>zoom you too, It's really nice to connect. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I could use some advice. Okay, Well, I'll do

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<v Speaker 1>my best to give you some advice. I'm not I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not I'm not a doctor and expert, but I'll try

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<v Speaker 1>my best from life experience to help you out. Okay, Um, well,

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<v Speaker 1>here's my scenario. I went on a date, a first

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<v Speaker 1>date with a guy the other day. I met him

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<v Speaker 1>on just like a dating app and it was a

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<v Speaker 1>it was a great date. But he drank a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about the date, like a lot, A lot, And what's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot coming from a drinker? A lot to mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how much? Was a lot? He had two

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<v Speaker 1>drinks before the appetizer got there, three before dinner was over,

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<v Speaker 1>and two more before the check came, so like seven

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<v Speaker 1>drinks and I had to the whole time, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>under twelve. No, did he was he? Was he drinking

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<v Speaker 1>it like he was needed to drink the booze to

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<v Speaker 1>get through the night. Or was he drinking because he

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to be social? How was his behavior as

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<v Speaker 1>he drank? I mean, there's so many lays I need

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<v Speaker 1>to know about this fellow drinking guy that I need to.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to. I don't want to disparage the

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<v Speaker 1>guy or or kind of lead you in the wrong direction.

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<v Speaker 1>If he's a nice guy, maybe he was nervous. You

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<v Speaker 1>know a lot of times us guys are nervous around

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful women like yourself, and you know, afraid that especially

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<v Speaker 1>if he's been on the dating scene for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not had that much success like most people don't

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<v Speaker 1>um And so that was a way for him to

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<v Speaker 1>calm his nerves. But if he's drinking, is almost he

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<v Speaker 1>has a problem, and the guy's getting sloppy and he's

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<v Speaker 1>fallen all over the place. I mean that's probably self explanatory, right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's the thing that he wasn't mesty, he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't slurring, He was totally fine, Like he needed it

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<v Speaker 1>to like self regulate his his nerves or something because

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't drunk, which is also amazing, Like, what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of metabolism does he have that he can drink that

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<v Speaker 1>much and be fine. He's a pro. Where's this guy lit?

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's what what Midwestern people like myself, Dude, there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to do except for drink um and and talk

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<v Speaker 1>about sports. But no, look, I mean, certainly that's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of drinks to having at night. And if he

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<v Speaker 1>was getting sloppy, or he was embarrassing himself or you

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<v Speaker 1>in the process, you know, obviously you know, there's probably

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<v Speaker 1>not a call for a second date there. But if

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<v Speaker 1>the guy was just getting through the night and it

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<v Speaker 1>was your first was at your first date with the guy, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it was our first time meeting. I'm pretty laxed with

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff. I'd say give the guy a pass, give

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<v Speaker 1>him a second date. If the guy is sitting on

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<v Speaker 1>a Tuesday afternoon and he doesn't have a job and

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<v Speaker 1>he's smashing you know, bush leg draft or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>or or bottle jack, I would start to get worried then,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think, you know, maybe give him a second

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<v Speaker 1>shot and see if he kind of slows it down

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<v Speaker 1>the second time around. Or maybe that's just part of

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<v Speaker 1>the guy's personality. But you know, it's something to watch,

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<v Speaker 1>but not something to be concerned with on the first date.

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<v Speaker 1>Just my opinion. Okay, cool, I'll take that and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>definitely give him another shot. And you know, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I'll call and give you an update again. I

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<v Speaker 1>would love it. Right now. I need to know, so

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<v Speaker 1>send me a note. I want to find out how

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<v Speaker 1>it goes. Alrighty, we'll do Thank you so much. I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. Appreciate it alright, by bye bye. Hi, Susan,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you? Hi? I'm great, how are you. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing great. I'm having a lot of fun on with this,

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<v Speaker 1>uh this podcast. It's pretty cool, wonderful. So, um, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>dating this guy who he's a great guy. He has

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<v Speaker 1>two kids and I have three kids, and we're getting

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<v Speaker 1>pretty serious and I'm thinking it's time that the kids

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<v Speaker 1>met each other. So I'm just wondering, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>what's a good way to introduce them and is there

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<v Speaker 1>anything I need to be careful of to ensure it

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<v Speaker 1>goes well? Like I'm just I'm a little nervous about

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing, you know, because so far it's been

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<v Speaker 1>me and him. It sounds like a great question. And

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<v Speaker 1>and look, I've been through this, so I can speak

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<v Speaker 1>to what what worked for me doesn't necessarily mean it

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<v Speaker 1>works for everybody. Um, but I actually, have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen how First of all, how long have you been

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<v Speaker 1>dating this guy? Like seven and a half months? That's

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. I mean that's a that's a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>lengthy amount of time. And it probably is time that you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sort of see how the family members would

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<v Speaker 1>interact in there if you're getting started to get pretty

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<v Speaker 1>serious about it. Um, you know, I think that with

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<v Speaker 1>regards to you know, watching somebody other how the other

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<v Speaker 1>person parents? Have you parents their kids? Have you been

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<v Speaker 1>able to take a look at how he is with

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<v Speaker 1>his kids? Um? Yeah, I mean I haven't, like I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't had a lot of time with them either, you know. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but he seems like, you know, they seem to kid

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<v Speaker 1>around kind of and like they have a nice They

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<v Speaker 1>seem pretty close. Does he talk with affinity for his kids?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that like a lot of the topic of conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>I know a lot of people, you know, are are

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<v Speaker 1>scared and shy away from talking about their kids because

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<v Speaker 1>they're afraid that this person that they're gonna date doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>like that. But in this case, he's got kids of

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<v Speaker 1>his own, does he does he speak affectionately about his

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<v Speaker 1>own kids? Oh yeah, oh yeah, definitely. Well look, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's a start, and um, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that with me. I saw my wife with her kids,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, Okay, she's a good mom. She

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<v Speaker 1>takes care of her kids, she handles her business, she

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<v Speaker 1>disciplines them the right way, they have respect for her,

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<v Speaker 1>they're well put together. So that after I saw that,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it would be a good time to introduce

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<v Speaker 1>her to my kids, which was, you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a difficult thing because I didn't have the easiest of

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<v Speaker 1>of divorce process of the divorce process going on, so

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<v Speaker 1>it was I was always very nervous about introducing um

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<v Speaker 1>my kids to other people, which I didn't forever until

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<v Speaker 1>I met my wife and felt comfortable about how she

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<v Speaker 1>was with her kids, and they ended up getting along famously.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, uh, And what I was. I travel a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>So I was in a certain city that was close

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<v Speaker 1>to them, and and her kids were close to to us,

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<v Speaker 1>and really we were just out and about and we

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<v Speaker 1>went and did an event and took him to a

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<v Speaker 1>hotel and they all kind of had a good time,

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<v Speaker 1>went swimming and all that stuff. And then you know

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<v Speaker 1>that the rest after that was always positive. So they

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<v Speaker 1>all got along. You know, they fought a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>like any uh, you know family would do. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it, are any of them still in the

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<v Speaker 1>house or three of them are gone? Three of them

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<v Speaker 1>are off to school and doing other things and graduated,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and then we have two left here. So

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<v Speaker 1>my my youngest stepson just turned sixteen yesterday. He's still

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<v Speaker 1>here and now he's driving and it's gone to buy

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<v Speaker 1>in a flash. I've known him since he's three years old.

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<v Speaker 1>And then um uh, my daughter's ten. So those are

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<v Speaker 1>the only two that are left. And then the other

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<v Speaker 1>ones are are all growing up now one and almost

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one. So it's been a fun ride. That's so great.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you have any suggestions on like like a

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<v Speaker 1>things like what kind of setting should we be in?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think for the kids to meet each other?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it might be cool, you know what, just

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<v Speaker 1>do something fun where they can have fun together, like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>take him to Wet and Wild or go to like

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<v Speaker 1>a theme park or something like that that's a good

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<v Speaker 1>way kids ice. They can hang out with each other,

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<v Speaker 1>they can go run around and and do fun stuff

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<v Speaker 1>together and you know, like kids would do if as

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<v Speaker 1>if they're meeting friends right as opposed to like some

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<v Speaker 1>formal dinner we're like you're sitting across from Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know sister or you know step sisters. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think in a fun environment is always a really really

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<v Speaker 1>cool way for for young people to break the ice. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good idea. I'm thinking maybe even mini golf

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. Do people's don't great? Yeah, something

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<v Speaker 1>like that bowling mini golf like you know, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know where you live, but like a small theme

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<v Speaker 1>park Disney Went and Wild. Their kids always love to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the water parks together, that kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>don't car Okay, yeah, no, I think that's a good idea,

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<v Speaker 1>good idea. Well, thanks you. I appreciate it, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much, because, um now you've given me

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<v Speaker 1>some um you know, now at least I have some ideas.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I before, I was just like I have no,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even I don't know. I've just been nervous,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Yeah, I completely relate and understand. And UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I got your email from the producers, so I'll send

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<v Speaker 1>you the bill. It's only gonna be a hundred for

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<v Speaker 1>this short call. I'm just just playing anyhow. Nice to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you and good luck with all that. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much, Thank you. Bye. Hi, it's up late.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. How are

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<v Speaker 1>you today? Oh? I'm good? Are you? I'm doing great? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>So um, thank you so much for taking my call. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so. I'm thirty six. My boyfriend is twenty six. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>we've been together for a while. Um. Anyways, we've been

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<v Speaker 1>talking a lot about having kids lately and uh. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so I've kids have always been part of my plan

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like my biological clock is ticketing. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I really want to get married and start

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<v Speaker 1>trying for kids. But when we started talking about it,

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<v Speaker 1>he thinks that kids are like four years away for

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<v Speaker 1>him at least. But I'm worried that four years might

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<v Speaker 1>be too late for me. Should I Should I stay

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<v Speaker 1>in this and be patient with him? Or like, should

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<v Speaker 1>I try and find someone who's more like in the

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<v Speaker 1>line with my timeline? Wow, what a tricky question where

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<v Speaker 1>I'd hate to give you the wrong advice on this one.

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<v Speaker 1>But how long? First of all, there's some important factors.

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<v Speaker 1>You said you've been a long together for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>How long is a long long time? Um? Well it's

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<v Speaker 1>been like, well, a long time for me is three years.

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<v Speaker 1>The three years He was twenty three and you were

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<v Speaker 1>thirty three at the time. Yeah, so three years. It's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a long time. And when you first started dating,

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<v Speaker 1>was this any part of the discussion at all that

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<v Speaker 1>you would like to have kids? And obviously he knows

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<v Speaker 1>you're just a little bit older than him. Um, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure it's in the back of his mind that you

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<v Speaker 1>would probably want to have kids at some point. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>did that ever come up in the beginning or all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, Did you just spring it on him

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<v Speaker 1>that you know what, I think it's time for us

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<v Speaker 1>to have kids. Yeah. No, we definitely have had those

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<v Speaker 1>conversations since the beginning. It was you know, I would

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<v Speaker 1>not have gotten with him in the first place if

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<v Speaker 1>he hadn't been someone who have said that he wanted kids. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just that, Um, now I'm realizing, Oh no, this

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<v Speaker 1>like age gap, uh might actually be a problem. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this is something you often hear. I mean, look, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean there are a couple of different other factors. Does

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<v Speaker 1>his career prevent him from being able to put the

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<v Speaker 1>time in it that's necessary to be a father. Is

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<v Speaker 1>there anything going on with regards to his his professional

0:22:41.040 --> 0:22:43.440
<v Speaker 1>life that would prevent him. Does he travel a lot?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is he a baseball player or rock star? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>is there something that that keeps this man, keeps him

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<v Speaker 1>on the road all the time that he wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>able to put the time and necessary to be a

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<v Speaker 1>good dad. Uh No, No, he works a pretty standard

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<v Speaker 1>like nine to six job um in finance. Like he's

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<v Speaker 1>very you know, he's he's got his stuff together. Everything is,

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<v Speaker 1>everything's in a good place. I think he just feels like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's not really you know, he wants to

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<v Speaker 1>do traveling and stuff like that, and you know he

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<v Speaker 1>feels like there's just a lot that he still wants

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<v Speaker 1>to do before having kids. Well, look, I mean there

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<v Speaker 1>there are a couple of things. One he has to

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<v Speaker 1>respect that you know, you you're having anxiety about your

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<v Speaker 1>biological clock. Although that as we know now, there are

0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:35.000
<v Speaker 1>things you can do with regards to science that enable

0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:37.800
<v Speaker 1>you to carry children and bear them a lot older

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<v Speaker 1>than you used to be able to do back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day that's available, but he also has to respect

0:23:42.600 --> 0:23:45.520
<v Speaker 1>your desire to to do this in a in a

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<v Speaker 1>in a natural way. And and so I think, you know,

0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:52.280
<v Speaker 1>three years just my opinion, and all of a sudden,

0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:55.359
<v Speaker 1>this relationships and I get I get like a d

0:23:55.560 --> 0:23:57.679
<v Speaker 1>M on Instagram from this guy who is mad at

0:23:57.680 --> 0:24:00.119
<v Speaker 1>me because you broke up with them. Um, no, I

0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:03.240
<v Speaker 1>I think that probably time you have that talk with

0:24:03.320 --> 0:24:05.439
<v Speaker 1>him and say, hey, look, we've been together three years.

0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I've invested this time into you. You know me well

0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:11.359
<v Speaker 1>enough that this is kind of something that I really

0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:14.000
<v Speaker 1>see on the horizon and want to do before I

0:24:14.040 --> 0:24:15.879
<v Speaker 1>feel like it's too late or I have to go

0:24:15.960 --> 0:24:18.240
<v Speaker 1>through obstacles to make it more difficult for me to

0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:24.240
<v Speaker 1>have kids. And I think it's it's definitely worth the conversation. Yeah, yeah,

0:24:24.359 --> 0:24:26.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm I guess I'm worried that you know, if I

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<v Speaker 1>if for some reason I break up with him, like

0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:31.000
<v Speaker 1>that's a no go, then you know, well I just

0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:33.680
<v Speaker 1>ruin my chances at all. But I guess we'll we'll

0:24:33.680 --> 0:24:36.680
<v Speaker 1>find out. Well, I mean, look, you don't have to

0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:38.520
<v Speaker 1>break up with them. But you know, maybe feel it,

0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:42.439
<v Speaker 1>feel it out, because sometimes guys will prolong the you know,

0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:45.239
<v Speaker 1>they'll they'll just kind of there. There might never be

0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:46.879
<v Speaker 1>a time, you know what I mean that they'll say

0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:49.359
<v Speaker 1>he wants to have kids and he just enjoys dating you,

0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:52.359
<v Speaker 1>which is perfectly fine. But if you have different life

0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:55.320
<v Speaker 1>goals for yourself and and and the way you envision

0:24:55.800 --> 0:24:57.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, being a mother, and that's not going to

0:24:57.800 --> 0:25:00.200
<v Speaker 1>play into his plans, and then maybe it is good

0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:06.200
<v Speaker 1>good to cut it short. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, cool, Well,

0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:13.520
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much, Thank you appreciated, Bhie, thank you

0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:23.840
<v Speaker 1>made to you. Holdine is the and busy man. Oh

0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry. Let me let me turn that down.

0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:29.600
<v Speaker 1>The problem by all means, please play our music at

0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:32.560
<v Speaker 1>all times in your house. That's awesome. I had to

0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:34.959
<v Speaker 1>go back and it brought back so many memories. I mean,

0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:38.720
<v Speaker 1>ninety degrees in rising, it's a classic. I'm loving the

0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:42.080
<v Speaker 1>backdrop with the co posters back there, the Moman ruge,

0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:47.280
<v Speaker 1>what is that? The aviator? Gladiator? Oh gladiator? Nice, very nice.

0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:50.520
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for taking the time to join me today. Of course.

0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Oh here's my cat right on time. She loves boys

0:25:54.320 --> 0:26:00.639
<v Speaker 1>to her name is Pixy. Yes, what a cool name. Hey, Okay,

0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:04.440
<v Speaker 1>you can go, let me talk to Jeff. Um, I'm

0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:06.240
<v Speaker 1>so excited to me You've been such a huge fan

0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:09.040
<v Speaker 1>for a long time. Thank you. I'm totally flattered and

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:11.760
<v Speaker 1>excited to meet you too. I really appreciate it. Yeah,

0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:14.479
<v Speaker 1>of course. Um. So I'm just gonna jump in with

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:18.360
<v Speaker 1>my question. Um, So, it seems like, you know, back

0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:21.920
<v Speaker 1>in the day, there was like rivalries among the groups, right,

0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:25.800
<v Speaker 1>but recently, you know, we see guys from different groups

0:26:25.800 --> 0:26:28.520
<v Speaker 1>doing things together, right, like the boy Man Christmas specialty

0:26:28.520 --> 0:26:31.840
<v Speaker 1>you were in last year. So aside from maybe just

0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:34.840
<v Speaker 1>being like a little bit older and wiser, what do

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:37.520
<v Speaker 1>you what do you think has changed to sort of

0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:41.240
<v Speaker 1>encourage those kind of collaborations. Well, here's what's really interesting, Donna,

0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:44.200
<v Speaker 1>because we never really had a rivalry with the other

0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:47.440
<v Speaker 1>other quote unquote boy bands. I know, it's it's contrary

0:26:47.440 --> 0:26:50.399
<v Speaker 1>to popular belief and it's not a it's not a

0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 1>great hot button for the media, but we really really

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:55.840
<v Speaker 1>had a ton of respect for both the Backstreet Boys

0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:59.479
<v Speaker 1>groups we were compared to Backstreet Boys and instinct although

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:01.879
<v Speaker 1>we were un formulated a little bit differently and that

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:05.600
<v Speaker 1>we put ourselves together and considered ourselves a vocal group.

0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Certainly years later, we're thrilled and honored to be mentioned

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:12.000
<v Speaker 1>in the same company with those guys and you know,

0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:15.320
<v Speaker 1>experience in the same sort of journey, the high highs

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:17.919
<v Speaker 1>and low lows that those guys that we had nothing

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:20.160
<v Speaker 1>but respect for them, they had tons of hits, tons

0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:23.600
<v Speaker 1>of talent, and we're just great guys to be around

0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:26.120
<v Speaker 1>on the road. I mean, like you had mentioned there,

0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:28.359
<v Speaker 1>there was the boy band Christmas Special, there was this

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 1>thing called back Sync. They had this thing here in

0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Vegas called the After Party. I'm part of a company,

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 1>a group called A T C K with A J

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:39.119
<v Speaker 1>and christ you know. Um, so you know, I I

0:27:39.200 --> 0:27:43.040
<v Speaker 1>have an affinity and love and appreciation for those guys,

0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 1>their journey, their work ethic and just what what type

0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:48.320
<v Speaker 1>of great people they are. You know, haven't been in

0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:53.439
<v Speaker 1>the business now for twenty seven years, it's anniversary. You know,

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 1>you don't really come across people that are really true

0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:59.560
<v Speaker 1>and genuine and and great folks to be around. And

0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:01.639
<v Speaker 1>to be honest, it sounds like I can't answer, but

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:05.280
<v Speaker 1>those guys are all fantastic dudes. Okay, And because I

0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:07.399
<v Speaker 1>just saw Backstreet in Vegas two weeks ago, and now

0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I have to ask when are we going to see nine? Well, look, yeah,

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:13.720
<v Speaker 1>as I mentioned, it's our twenty fifth anniversary. Thanks for

0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:16.600
<v Speaker 1>asking the question. Um, we're thrilled and excited that so

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 1>many people are coming out to see us. I mean

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:21.600
<v Speaker 1>we've we've been you know, back since two thousand and

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:24.080
<v Speaker 1>thirteen when we toured with Boys the Men and New Kids,

0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:26.479
<v Speaker 1>and since then, I've had multiple tours. The fans are

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:29.199
<v Speaker 1>always there for us. We're gonna be recording some stuff

0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 1>last week of I want to say May, uh, first

0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:35.120
<v Speaker 1>week of May, we're recording some new material, and then

0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:37.400
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be back on the road end of August,

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 1>probably into September, and then go through the holiday season.

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:42.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that we'll probably do a holiday tour

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:45.360
<v Speaker 1>like we've done in the past, but we will definitely

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:47.480
<v Speaker 1>be on the road, you know, going out there and

0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 1>uh hitting the pavement, doing some shows for our fans.

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Were super excited about it. That's awesome. I'm super excited.

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 1>And I just have to say this gift is one

0:28:55.720 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 1>of my favorite Christmas songs. Thank you. I mean you

0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 1>look the Christmas album I'm proud of all the material

0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 1>and feel blessed and fortunate and lucky to be a

0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 1>part of any of it. But I think that the

0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Christmas music for us, because we're a true court quartet.

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 1>I think the fact that we can, you know, arrange

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 1>all the harmonies and the vocal stacks that we like

0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:16.520
<v Speaker 1>to do. We I feel like the Christmas music is

0:29:16.520 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 1>our best stuff. So I appreciate the compliment. Every year

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:21.400
<v Speaker 1>I have to listen to it, I find it and

0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Okay, I love this song and totally superficially

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:28.560
<v Speaker 1>you're a tiny box, but you look fabulous. I thank you,

0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 1>very appreciate. I'm trying to keep up with the young bucks.

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm about to turn forty nine here in

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 1>a few days, so I'm trying to try to stay

0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:40.560
<v Speaker 1>young and vibrants so we can, uh, we can still

0:29:40.600 --> 0:29:45.640
<v Speaker 1>compete in our old age are anti created souls. I'm

0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 1>right behind you, so don't say old age, please you.

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 1>And uh, I appreciate your time down and and asking

0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 1>me such great questions and the compliments to yeah, no problem.

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:58.120
<v Speaker 1>It's so great to me, you know, I'm I'm so

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 1>happy to do it. Thank you, Okay, Hey, how are

0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:07.960
<v Speaker 1>you good. How are you I'm doing I'm doing great. Thanks,

0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Thanks a lot for hopping on with me. Yeah. So,

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 1>being in the industry so long, we're all curious to

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 1>know what is the one song you wish she never

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:20.120
<v Speaker 1>had to sing? Ever again, that's a good one. You know.

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I hate to sound like a corny person, but I

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:27.760
<v Speaker 1>love all the songs I mean, you know, especially the

0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:30.080
<v Speaker 1>ones that were hits that you know, people say, oh

0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 1>my gosh, I'm so sick of singing I Do or

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:34.959
<v Speaker 1>Invisible Man or Hardest Thing or whatever the hit is

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 1>or song that we've done. Um, it's actually the opposite.

0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:41.360
<v Speaker 1>I used to not like singing some of the songs

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:43.719
<v Speaker 1>that we recorded back in the day in concert, like

0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Dizzy or the Way You Want Me To, because I

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 1>wanted to sing all the love songs and ballads. But

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:55.280
<v Speaker 1>now many years later, those are tempo dance songs. Yeah,

0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:58.520
<v Speaker 1>I think that they seem relevant now. So it's the opposite.

0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:01.840
<v Speaker 1>I actually like singing more songs then the ones I

0:31:01.880 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 1>don't like. I mean, you know, I wish I had

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:06.960
<v Speaker 1>a different answer and said, oh man, I hate singing

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 1>because of you, but I get it. Joked out of

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:12.880
<v Speaker 1>it out of it every time because the crowd responds

0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 1>differently every time. And you know, look at this point

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:18.480
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned many years, many years later, for anybody to

0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 1>know any of the lyrics to any of our songs

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:24.720
<v Speaker 1>and back to us. I'm thrilled. That's awesome. My first

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:26.800
<v Speaker 1>concert was actually one of the All That tours of

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 1>ninety eight degrees, so I'll never forget. Well, thanks, We're

0:31:30.880 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 1>we're part of the world. Are you in? Where was

0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:35.600
<v Speaker 1>that at UM in southern California? It was like before

0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 1>they tore down the Universal Amphitheater. Yeah, that's right, So

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 1>that was And so you got Monica and the Keenan

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 1>and kel and n that's fun. Well, I appreciate that. Geez,

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:50.840
<v Speaker 1>that's awesome. Thank you. Yeah, so glad you guys have

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:54.000
<v Speaker 1>all success witching many years ahead. Thank you guys for

0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 1>having such great anthems. Oh, I appreciate it, and I

0:31:57.600 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 1>love the love. And thanks Joyce. I appreciate they appreciate

0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 1>the support seriously, Thanks Joyce, what great calls. We're gonna

0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 1>take a little break and we're gonna get right into

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 1>the Q and A. So the question, the first question

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 1>is how did I meet my beautiful wife, Amanda. It

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:26.080
<v Speaker 1>was very interesting. So a friend of mine, Jordan's Knights,

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:28.120
<v Speaker 1>who is a member of New Kids on the Block.

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:30.360
<v Speaker 1>He and I had been touring for a couple of

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:33.200
<v Speaker 1>years together as solo artists and having a lot of fun,

0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:34.600
<v Speaker 1>and he asked me to be a part of this

0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:37.560
<v Speaker 1>thing that he had called he was doing called Jordan's Idol,

0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 1>and jordan Idol was essentially a basically a version of

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:42.880
<v Speaker 1>his version of American Idol would where fans would come

0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 1>out and they would sing covers and then a winner

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 1>of the contest would get to record with Jordan's and

0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Jordan wanted me to be a judge. Well, I was

0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:54.200
<v Speaker 1>really busy with my kids. I was going through going

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:56.920
<v Speaker 1>through a divorce and only had limited amounts of times

0:32:57.240 --> 0:32:59.280
<v Speaker 1>time to spend with my kids. And at that time

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:01.320
<v Speaker 1>I was like, look, I get I have visitation with

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:04.160
<v Speaker 1>my kids. I can't make it. So Jordan was like, look,

0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 1>you have to be here, please bro do it. So

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:10.360
<v Speaker 1>I drove to l a um from Orange County and

0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:14.480
<v Speaker 1>and um, you know, reluctantly went and uh and then

0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:18.000
<v Speaker 1>judge this contest and my wife was there, my future

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 1>wife was there at a v I P table, and

0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:22.400
<v Speaker 1>I thought I was gonna be really, really cool, and

0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 1>I sauntered up to her like she was gonna know

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 1>who I was, and said, hey, you must be one

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:30.720
<v Speaker 1>of Jordan's younger fans. And she was like, no, I'm

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 1>in my thirties. You know you're by the way, you're

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:34.760
<v Speaker 1>sitting at my table, and she kind of dismissed me,

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:37.080
<v Speaker 1>which I was kind of like taking her back, and

0:33:37.080 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 1>it was definitely a bruise to my ego. But I

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:41.720
<v Speaker 1>was like, hey, you know, what's your name? And she

0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:43.880
<v Speaker 1>told me her name was Amanda, and she really kind

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 1>of ignored me, and then her friend said, don't you

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 1>know who this guy is. It's a guy from ninety degrees.

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 1>So her exact words were, what do you want a cookie?

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, I walked my butt back to

0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 1>my own judgment judge chair and spent the rest of

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:00.640
<v Speaker 1>the night doing the doing the thing in the contest

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:03.640
<v Speaker 1>and all that. But on my way out she denies this,

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:06.480
<v Speaker 1>but she followed me. On my way out, I was

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 1>going home to be with my kids and do their

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 1>homework with them, and she said, hey, where are you going.

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:12.799
<v Speaker 1>I said, well, I gotta go home and be with

0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:14.319
<v Speaker 1>my kids. And by the way, you didn't know who

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:17.480
<v Speaker 1>I was earlier. And then um, we didn't exchange numbers

0:34:17.520 --> 0:34:20.920
<v Speaker 1>at the time, but we exchanged Twitter handles, and so

0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:23.479
<v Speaker 1>I immediately d M her and was trying to chat

0:34:23.520 --> 0:34:26.320
<v Speaker 1>her up, and I slid into the d M s

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 1>and all that stuff. And then eventually I just started

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:32.719
<v Speaker 1>seeing her uh now and again on the road. It

0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:36.399
<v Speaker 1>wasn't anything seriously I was taking seriously. I never really

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 1>wanted to get married again. I was kind of disenchanted,

0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:43.960
<v Speaker 1>disenchanted with relationships. But she was sweet, She really had

0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:47.239
<v Speaker 1>her stuff together. She was a good mom, she was impressive,

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:49.960
<v Speaker 1>she didn't rely on me to do everything for her,

0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 1>and she was just there for me at a very

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 1>rough time in my life. So um ended up being

0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:58.800
<v Speaker 1>a blessing in disguise that I went to the jordanal

0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:03.840
<v Speaker 1>event and she changed my life. The other question is

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<v Speaker 1>how did I know I was ready to marry? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, look, I again, I didn't think I was

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<v Speaker 1>ever going to get married again. I obviously I love

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<v Speaker 1>women and and dating is okay, and and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sort of wanted to focus on being a father. But

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<v Speaker 1>this person came into my life and completely changed it

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<v Speaker 1>around for the better, almost effective immediately. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I sat there and it kind of was like a

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<v Speaker 1>revelation to me. I was visiting her in uh in

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<v Speaker 1>l A. She was doing something, she was in the

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<v Speaker 1>medical field, doing something, and I visited her at a

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<v Speaker 1>restaurant at her hotel, and I thought, wow, you know, um,

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<v Speaker 1>this one might be the one. I remember, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>going home after hanging out with her and telling my parents, Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is gonna be the person that I

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<v Speaker 1>end up you know, having a long term relationship with.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, eventually, very shortly thereafter, Um, we got married.

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<v Speaker 1>We kind of just fell in love with each other

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<v Speaker 1>and life got better with with both of us in

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<v Speaker 1>each other's lives, and um, the rest is history totally

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<v Speaker 1>changed my life around, all right. So the question is

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<v Speaker 1>do men have a one track mind? Can they listen

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<v Speaker 1>to women when they're also doing something else? Now, this

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<v Speaker 1>is something you want to talk about pet peeves. We

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<v Speaker 1>talked about pet peeves earlier, um, and one of the

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<v Speaker 1>questions was my pet peeve, mine's lazy people? Well, probably

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<v Speaker 1>my wife Amanda's pet peeve is the fact that I

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<v Speaker 1>cannot do more than one thing at a time. If

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<v Speaker 1>I'm crafting an email in my phone, I am literally

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<v Speaker 1>hearing the words as I'm typing them, and she could

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<v Speaker 1>be saying, well, you need to take the trash out

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<v Speaker 1>or the pool guys gonna come, and I cannot hear

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<v Speaker 1>anything else. So one track mind, it's kind of a rough,

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<v Speaker 1>rough sort of term for that. I would say focus.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say I'm focused on one thing, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't speak for all men. There are other guys that multitasks,

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<v Speaker 1>can talk texts and you know, do all kinds of things.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to be focused on whatever it is, and

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't necessarily have to do with being a man.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be that I have like a d D

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<v Speaker 1>and I have to like focus on that because if

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<v Speaker 1>I start to focus on a bunch of other things

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<v Speaker 1>that I can't pay attention. But in this case, I

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<v Speaker 1>would say most men do have a one track mine.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been wonderful spending time with you, great calls, great

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<v Speaker 1>Q and A. I loved, you know, spending some time

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<v Speaker 1>with everybody, and love the fact that twenty five years later,

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<v Speaker 1>degree still has fans out there, and it's been a

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<v Speaker 1>pleasure and honor for me to spend so much time

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<v Speaker 1>with you, you probably learned a little bit too much.

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<v Speaker 1>But one last thing I want to talk about is

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<v Speaker 1>nine Degrees is gonna be on the road recording some

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<v Speaker 1>new music. I have a new song out right now

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<v Speaker 1>called Lit featuring Pompeii, debut number one on the iTunes

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<v Speaker 1>Dance chart. I'm very, very proud of it. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>a blast hanging out here on How Men Think. Thanks

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