Speaker 1: Warning today's episode Kittaine spoilers for Nobody to Nobody No.
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Speaker 3: And in today's episode, we are going to be talking
Speaker 3: about Nobody Too starring Bob Odenkirk. Don't we all love him.
Speaker 3: We're gonna be talking about that. We're gonna talk about
Speaker 3: some of our other favorite secret spies in the suburbs
Speaker 3: type movies. And we're also gonna ask, like, what what
Speaker 3: are actual movie's saying right now? Like what twenty twenty
Speaker 3: five action movies? We are they telling us about the world?
Speaker 4: Been living it?
Speaker 2: Okay? Nobody Too?
Speaker 1: Nobody two is the sequel to the surprise hit Nobody Won,
Speaker 1: which was released in twenty twenty one, starring God starring
Speaker 1: I Know.
Speaker 2: Feels like it well is not that long though I.
Speaker 4: Know it does not feel that long ago.
Speaker 1: The first film was directed by Hardcore Harry's Ilia Nischuler
Speaker 1: and written by John Wick Scribe Derek Coolstadt, starring Bob
Speaker 1: Odenkirk and Nobody to picks up the baton from Nobody One,
Speaker 1: still starring Bob Odenkirk, still written by Derek Colstad, but
Speaker 1: this time directed by Timo Chahanto, Indonesian action filmmaker. And
Speaker 1: your thoughts, Rosie upon seeing Nobody Too.
Speaker 3: Yes, I was, I was. I have controversial takes on
Speaker 3: Nobody Else was really good. I think, I think it's
Speaker 3: a brilliantly made movie, but also I found it to
Speaker 3: be quite like it's quite like a just a kind
Speaker 3: of a gritty like grinding like hardcore watch. And I
Speaker 3: think that's why people liked it. I mean, you mentioned
Speaker 3: ilias the director of Nobody Wants for like big breakout
Speaker 3: movie Hardcore Henry, which was like such a moment if
Speaker 3: you were there for it, which was this kind of
Speaker 3: crazy POV action movie that began as a short that
Speaker 3: I think was like one of those big kind of
Speaker 3: if you were on the internet in the zeros and tens, that.
Speaker 4: Was like a big thing that you were looking for.
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed Nobody Too because even though, and we'll
Speaker 3: talk about this, it is essentially like the same beats.
Speaker 3: I enjoyed the kind of you know, as we mentioned,
Speaker 3: the Dead Island kind of lens that they put this through,
Speaker 3: where it's like, I like the colorful shirts. I like
Speaker 3: the he's just trying to have a good holiday and
Speaker 3: be a good dad. But you know, these people in
Speaker 3: this small town Plumberville, this kind of American summer town,
Speaker 3: are you know, nefarious and corrupt. I think there's been
Speaker 3: some really good small town corruption movies this year with
Speaker 3: Rebel Ridge obviously and other fantastic movie starring Future Green
Speaker 3: Lanterns star Aaron Perre. That was very much we love
Speaker 3: a small town corruption movie, like, yeah, it's a it's
Speaker 3: American tradition. And I think for me, what I really
Speaker 3: loved was I'm a big Timo fan. I loved Timo's
Speaker 3: Timo used to make a lot of horror movies with
Speaker 3: another director they call the Mo Brothers. They made Maccab,
Speaker 3: they made stuff like that. But then he really came
Speaker 3: back onto my kind of radar in when he made
Speaker 3: The Night Comes for Us, which is on Netflix. It's
Speaker 3: a Indonesian action horror kind of boss too.
Speaker 1: Many super violent, too many throats for me, I love
Speaker 1: I love you.
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2: I listen.
Speaker 1: I love the action movies. I love violent movies. This
Speaker 1: is a well made movie. It's just too many throats.
Speaker 4: The Night Comes for Us is one of the most
Speaker 4: violent movies.
Speaker 1: It's one of the most like jugular cutting movies you will.
Speaker 2: Ever see it.
Speaker 4: It's like The Raid if The Raid was.
Speaker 3: Like a Gorse black and it stars, it stars Eco
Speaker 3: Us and it stars Joe Taslim. And then Timo has
Speaker 3: done some other great movies that you know he did.
Speaker 3: He'd recently had a new action movie on Netflix. He
Speaker 3: did the really fun horror movies, Made The Devil Take You,
Speaker 3: Made The Devil Take You Too, which very Sam raimish.
Speaker 3: So what I really liked about this one was I
Speaker 3: felt like he was able to bring his kind of
Speaker 3: cartoonish direction of violence to this. You get a lot
Speaker 3: of like teeth that coming now and people again like
Speaker 3: kicked in the head, and there's the boat fight, which
Speaker 3: was really fun. So I like that timas kind of
Speaker 3: bring his more out their style. But I would say,
Speaker 3: as well, definitely not like Night Comes for Us, is
Speaker 3: that this is a completely fine.
Speaker 1: The boat fight was wonderful. It's like, listen, you can
Speaker 1: almost Here's what's fun about these movies kind of for me,
Speaker 1: both one and two and particularly too. You can just
Speaker 1: look and be like, ah, the tooth coming out like
Speaker 1: from Wanted exactly, the fight on the boat like Jackie
Speaker 1: Chan's police story fight on the bus, but on a boat,
Speaker 1: and all these wonderful like little nods. You know, first
Speaker 1: it's a first Blood set up.
Speaker 2: And I also.
Speaker 1: Liked listen, the action is really fun and to your point,
Speaker 1: it it veers at times into an almost Tom and
Speaker 1: Jerry level.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, especially in this one, which I think
Speaker 3: is really fun, like.
Speaker 1: You could shoot somebody, sure, but why not trigger a
Speaker 1: home alone style trap the super Bowl with knives to
Speaker 1: like come out.
Speaker 3: Like kill did love the stuff, you know what, I
Speaker 3: will say, I'm glad you brought that up, because I
Speaker 3: do think one of the reasons that this movie really
Speaker 3: spoke to me was like, basically, in case you you know,
Speaker 3: really need it, it is the family go on a vacation.
Speaker 3: It's just after you know, continuing on from the first
Speaker 3: movie where I just kind of gotten rid of the
Speaker 3: people who causing problems in his family who raided his house.
Speaker 3: Very classic death wish sty'll set up and now they're
Speaker 3: going on vacation. They want everything to be normal, but
Speaker 3: his son gets into it with a kid at an arcade,
Speaker 3: and you unravel this kind of you know, chaotic corruption
Speaker 3: under the small town. But I'm glad that you brought
Speaker 3: it up because the final act of this movie is
Speaker 3: what I think I'm looking for in many movies, which.
Speaker 4: Is like, why are more movies set in theme pos?
Speaker 4: Like why are the action movies.
Speaker 3: And horror movies set in theme pox? Because I think
Speaker 3: that is like an iconic setting for something fun. And
Speaker 3: there's about three or four movies that have ever done it, well,
Speaker 3: this being one of them.
Speaker 1: Am I think that you know it's it has taken.
Speaker 1: It took several decades, two and a half decades, almost
Speaker 1: three three decades for the home alone finish to become
Speaker 1: the part to become a trope. You know, maybe it
Speaker 1: was SETI Fall that was really the high brow movie
Speaker 1: that was like what if we just got home alone there?
Speaker 1: And you know this the entire climax of this film,
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking, great, We're gonna get a home alone
Speaker 1: in a Carnival good. And I think that now that
Speaker 1: it's been this long and we've you know, we've started
Speaker 1: the ball rolling with this, I agree with you. I
Speaker 1: love a good like Booby Trap laden Finish a Home Alone.
Speaker 2: And I think we're gonna start to see more of
Speaker 2: these now.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Fun.
Speaker 4: I think it's fun.
Speaker 3: And also we've you know, Rube Goldberg machines are ever
Speaker 3: more popular whether you're in a Saw type situation. You know,
Speaker 3: we're like fifteen twenty years out from the first Saw
Speaker 3: movie now, so I feel like we can explore that.
Speaker 3: I also think that there is something just decidedly thrilling.
Speaker 3: It's the nature of going on a roller coaster, right
Speaker 3: is it looks dangerous, but it's not dangerous.
Speaker 4: So I think that seeing.
Speaker 3: A space like that that then becomes dangerous and has
Speaker 3: all these kind of terrifying traps is very fun.
Speaker 4: There's only other like.
Speaker 3: I watched a movie a very long time ago, Spanish movie.
Speaker 3: I believe it's called a Christmas Tale, and it's about
Speaker 3: some kids who accidentally trap a bank robber who is
Speaker 3: dressed as Santa in a pit, and because they're eleven
Speaker 3: year olds, they get kind of obsessed with like keeping
Speaker 3: the person in the pit, and it's really kind of
Speaker 3: a creepy moralistic tale until at the end she just
Speaker 3: escapes and chases them through a water park dressed the
Speaker 3: Santa with an axe. And I always remember just being like, yes, also,
Speaker 3: you know something that was kind of blowing my mind
Speaker 3: when I was watching Nobody to which I'm interested to
Speaker 3: see if we'll like translate for an average audience member.
Speaker 3: I just feel like this is a very stacked movie castwise.
Speaker 3: I feel like you not only do you have obviously
Speaker 3: Bob Odenkirk Connie Nilson returning, but then you have like
Speaker 3: Colin Hanks is the evil corruption against and goes like
Speaker 3: really into it. You've got Christopher Lloyd. He's doing a
Speaker 3: classic like crazy dad vibe.
Speaker 4: Here.
Speaker 1: Who's who you've seen in things such as the Michael Man,
Speaker 1: Miami Heat, Miami Vice. Excuse me, you've seen him in
Speaker 1: Carlito's Way, You've seen him.
Speaker 4: In and that's a answer.
Speaker 3: And he it's fun and he gets a fun kind
Speaker 3: of twist on this story too, like where you expect
Speaker 3: him to be somewhere. Also, McKenna grace is in this movie.
Speaker 3: Like they stacked it up. I think post nobody Wan
Speaker 3: and I think we can see this with a lot
Speaker 3: of the North, the eighty seven North, like David.
Speaker 2: Lee type stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, post John Wick.
Speaker 3: This stuff appeals to people they want to be in
Speaker 3: the next one after Nobody. I think people watched it
Speaker 3: and said, I want to be in whatever that is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you, And I think the appeal
Speaker 1: is something like this, Hey, Sharon Stone, it's a cool
Speaker 1: whatever her price is like a couple of million, We
Speaker 1: shoot you out in five days. You're in and out
Speaker 1: in five days. You don't have to sit on like
Speaker 1: in Vancouver or wherever for a month. And it's and
Speaker 1: you can basically just be crazy and do what you want.
Speaker 1: I think that's the appeal, which is and is a
Speaker 1: grand appeal. Like Christopher Lloyd. When I saw Christopher Lloyd
Speaker 1: in the first one, I was like, wait a second,
Speaker 1: Christopher Lloyd is eighty.
Speaker 4: Two yep, wow, this yeah is having a sun.
Speaker 1: The casting for these is spectacular. I think part of
Speaker 1: it is the fact that they can probably pay a
Speaker 1: good a good salary because and it's everything else is
Speaker 1: clearly done the cheapest, high quality way you can do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which, honestly, this is now going to become I think,
Speaker 3: you know, I was on a skate patch yesterday talking
Speaker 3: about gong Girl, and we were kind of talking about
Speaker 3: the loss of the mid range, mid budget movie that could.
Speaker 3: For example, Gongirl costs like sixty million dollars, but it
Speaker 3: made three hundred and seventy million dollars, which now would
Speaker 3: be a kind of good EMCU take in twenty twenty five,
Speaker 3: and this, I think is the new version of that.
Speaker 4: Way the budget for this movie.
Speaker 3: Twenty five, Yeah, the new it's like, this is twenty
Speaker 3: five million dollars. It's a twenty five million dollar budget.
Speaker 3: But if this opens, you know to ten, fifteen, twenty,
Speaker 3: it's gonna do great. But the first one made a
Speaker 3: ton of money.
Speaker 4: For Universe, I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, called fifteen million. Die.
Speaker 1: I forget the budget on it was what it was,
Speaker 1: but it was they made like sixty million on a
Speaker 1: less than twenty million dollar budget or something.
Speaker 3: I think as well, like because of the way that
Speaker 3: streaming has changed how people watch stuff in America obviously,
Speaker 3: and I always talk about this.
Speaker 4: I think it's great. It's one of the things I
Speaker 4: really think is.
Speaker 3: A great choice culturally, is like I think the R
Speaker 3: rating is a really powerful choice here because you can
Speaker 3: take a kid to an R rated movie if you
Speaker 3: are their guardian or you were an adult, and I
Speaker 3: think it opens up what people can and can't see,
Speaker 3: whereas in England you have to have like your passport
Speaker 3: to go and see an eighteen rated movie, Like they're
Speaker 3: really really hardcore about it. And I think so there
Speaker 3: was always a culture of people of all different ages
Speaker 3: going to see movies here. Last night I went to
Speaker 3: see Weapons again and there was an eight year old
Speaker 3: in there and you know what, that kids slaunched it out,
Speaker 3: so good for the parents. But like, something I think
Speaker 3: about movies like this now is in a post streaming
Speaker 3: world where every kid has watched a YouTube video about
Speaker 3: all the worst deaths in john Wick or all the
Speaker 3: craziest times that Freddie versus Jason killed each other, I
Speaker 3: think a kid can like this could be a movie
Speaker 3: where there is a wider quadrant than you would expect
Speaker 3: who is going to go and want to see.
Speaker 1: And I think to your point, there is clearly a
Speaker 1: space for people love the john Wick style setup. A
Speaker 1: man has been aggrieved in some way by the powers
Speaker 1: that be and he gets revenge, and I think there's clearly,
Speaker 1: as the success of Nobody Won has shown, there's clearly
Speaker 1: a space for that setup. But just like less crazy,
Speaker 1: less gritty than John Wick.
Speaker 4: They did it like.
Speaker 1: More fun and slightly more comedic and lower the death count,
Speaker 1: Like a lot of people get beat up, but only
Speaker 1: a few people die now, and if they.
Speaker 3: Do, they die in like a crazily comedic way, like
Speaker 3: an anchor is going through the head. So you're kind
Speaker 3: of like, isn't that like an episode of Paulpie right?
Speaker 2: And so I think that there is. I think there's
Speaker 2: clearly a space for that.
Speaker 1: And I think part of it is, like, what's interesting
Speaker 1: to me about watching this movie was like, how clearly
Speaker 1: what resonates is, uh, you like this movie because the
Speaker 1: world is fucked it is. You feel like it is corrupt.
Speaker 1: You feel like the skills you would need to fight
Speaker 1: back against it are like impossible. You would have to
Speaker 1: be I'd have to be like a retired government assassin
Speaker 1: or something exactly to figure out how to do it.
Speaker 1: And so this the wish fulfillment in this movie is
Speaker 1: quite clear. It's like, here's a guy just wants to
Speaker 1: live a normal life like everybody else wants to live
Speaker 1: a normal life, only he's the one they shouldn't have
Speaker 1: fucked with. And again it's so simple and yet extremely satisfying.
Speaker 1: And there's nothing we were talking about this pre mic
Speaker 1: plot wise characterized. There's nothing that's a surprise in this
Speaker 1: movie or nobody won, like you know, nobody won. The
Speaker 1: the the guys walk onto the bus and you understand.
Speaker 3: Do you understand that he's about yeah, good app But
Speaker 3: then it becomes how do you show that?
Speaker 1: And I think what acts? The real surprise is that
Speaker 1: it's Bob Odenkirk. Here's the guy from Mister Show and
Speaker 1: from you know better call Sauw who good actor, good
Speaker 1: dramatic actor, more more known for his comedic work. Who
Speaker 1: nobody was thinking, oh action star.
Speaker 2: And that to me is.
Speaker 1: Like, it's an interesting twist on it because you're it's like,
Speaker 1: give us the genre stuff that is tried and true,
Speaker 1: like literally a genre, the the middle aged aggrieved man
Speaker 1: is a genre that is so yes. But this twist
Speaker 1: is what if we cast it really interestingly like what
Speaker 1: you know?
Speaker 3: And I think that exactly. I think that is what
Speaker 3: David Leitch and Chad Steleski have been doing since the
Speaker 3: first John Wick movie. Because even that movie, having Keanu
Speaker 3: Reeves as that character was like a meta textual commentary
Speaker 3: and understanding of what he did well but that he
Speaker 3: had always been critiqued for, which is like this almost
Speaker 3: Hong Kong inspired style of acting that's really about action
Speaker 3: and movement instead of you know, emotions and everything.
Speaker 4: In the most normal way.
Speaker 3: But the other thing that John Wick did that I
Speaker 3: think is really great and for me is why this
Speaker 3: era of Nobody and John Wick is a great subversion
Speaker 3: and kind of elevation of the traditional revenge movie is
Speaker 3: if you look back at something like Charles Bronson, who
Speaker 3: I have to say, I grew up loving B movies
Speaker 3: and exploitations, so I used to watch those movies a lot.
Speaker 3: But like Death Wish, for example, all those movies begin
Speaker 3: with like a horrific assault on a woman, and I
Speaker 3: think that for a long time, the idea of these
Speaker 3: movies was like a man has to rectify something bad
Speaker 3: that was done to his property aka his house, or
Speaker 3: his wife or his children. And there's like five Death
Speaker 3: Wish movies because of that and about that. So I
Speaker 3: think what I really love about Nobody one established more
Speaker 3: of this idea of like what if somebody invades your
Speaker 3: home and the sanctity of your home and the safety
Speaker 3: of your home that you built, rather than like what
Speaker 3: if they sexually assault your teenage daughter? Like And I
Speaker 3: think that with john Wick, one of the reasons that movie.
Speaker 4: Had such a killing reach what if they kill your dog?
Speaker 3: Like what if it's something that you can imagine being
Speaker 3: the thing that breaks you, But it doesn't have to
Speaker 3: begin in that like truly exploitative place. And I think
Speaker 3: that's why these are so fun for me. And I
Speaker 3: think as well, like you know, this movie especially builds
Speaker 3: on what we've seen and nobody won by kind of
Speaker 3: establishing this almost franchised mindset of like, well, their son
Speaker 3: clearly has aggression issues, but if he uses them in
Speaker 3: the right way, he too can be a cool assassin
Speaker 3: who beats up corrupt people. And you get Connie Nielsen,
Speaker 3: who is suddenly.
Speaker 4: Like they're like, by the way, by the way, I
Speaker 4: thought she was just a normal successful wife, She's a sniper.
Speaker 1: She's also a successful sniper.
Speaker 3: And I think, like there's I like to see the
Speaker 3: ways that they try and build these worlds out when
Speaker 3: they make movies like this. I think that's one of
Speaker 3: the most fun things about John The law is how
Speaker 3: you expand the world, and the law, the John Wick
Speaker 3: law is insane.
Speaker 1: I mean the law of nobody too is only not
Speaker 1: insane because we don't know that much about it yet.
Speaker 2: I will say that the more I.
Speaker 1: Learn and you learn more about nobody too, for instance,
Speaker 1: you learn that, uh, it's Hutch and the resist dad
Speaker 1: was like involved in this town for was like.
Speaker 4: Bringing a holiday, but really it was some kind of.
Speaker 1: Mission right because uh, you know, drugs and counterfeit goods
Speaker 1: and chemical precursors for drugs and things are coming back
Speaker 1: from Canada into this small town and Hutch's dad and
Speaker 1: his dad was involved in this. And there's also the
Speaker 1: thing of I forget the name of the character who
Speaker 1: in one and two Hutch calls on the phone and is.
Speaker 3: Like his content is like, oh, it's his governments, contact government,
Speaker 3: his government handler who is in this for like a minute,
Speaker 3: but it's.
Speaker 1: Has the Michael Michael Well it was Michael Ironside in
Speaker 1: the right in the first one. But you know who
Speaker 1: is it? No, it's the I'm talking about the British
Speaker 1: guy who's like in the barbershop and he's just.
Speaker 2: This you've got in trouble this time you missed.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to keep your head down on this one,
Speaker 1: Old boy.
Speaker 3: A right, John Wick, and Sir John, I think that's
Speaker 3: one of my one of my things that I really
Speaker 3: enjoy about this era of like crazy action movies.
Speaker 4: It's basically just that we're.
Speaker 3: In a time where people are allowed to have a
Speaker 3: lot more fun with it and there is more of
Speaker 3: a kind of wild style approach. Whether it's The Kingsman
Speaker 3: or whether it's John Wick or whether it's nobody, We're
Speaker 3: getting these different versions of what an action movie can be.
Speaker 3: And I do think that historically there's a good action
Speaker 3: comedy tradition in America, So I feel like these fit in.
Speaker 1: And I think that there is the other influence that
Speaker 1: I'd like to call out on this movie specifically, and
Speaker 1: they want is the is the genre of YouTube video
Speaker 1: that's like Bully gets his due, Bully picks.
Speaker 2: On the wrong guy. Yeah, And I mean that is
Speaker 2: the power of both of these movies.
Speaker 1: Every single absolutely set pieces like Bully picks on the
Speaker 1: wrong guy, you did it, you did the wrong thing
Speaker 1: this time, like when the when the carnival guy smacks
Speaker 1: the back of Hutch's daughter's head and you just know, Okay.
Speaker 3: You're just like what and also like that's such a
Speaker 3: stupid just like take one step back, bro like, don't
Speaker 3: don't hit an eleven.
Speaker 4: Year old girl. But I am excited for the inevitable addition.
Speaker 3: And Nobody three of like the girl becoming really cool.
Speaker 2: Oh no, that's gonna get it. That's definitely gonna hand
Speaker 2: it off to the family.
Speaker 4: You go to hand it off to the family. Nobody three.
Speaker 3: It's called like family vacation and like it's like a
Speaker 3: National Lampoon movie and they just go to a different place.
Speaker 1: Take a quick break, and then we'll do some opening
Speaker 1: box office predictions. We'll talk about your favorite uh you know,
Speaker 1: middle aged man, aggrieved movies, retired hit man movies, and
Speaker 1: we'll be right back after this. And we're back, okay,
Speaker 1: box office predictions. Your box office prediction on a budget
Speaker 1: of twenty five million dollars, Nobody to kind of a
Speaker 1: good weekend to be opening.
Speaker 2: I think right now it's a good weekend.
Speaker 4: To be opening. I do think that.
Speaker 3: What's going to happen that I think is interesting about
Speaker 3: Nobody is it ended up the first one ended up
Speaker 3: in a very interesting situation.
Speaker 4: Which was that it was relatively popular.
Speaker 3: It made twenty seven million dollars domestically fifty seven million dollars.
Speaker 4: Globally, but it was very popular on video and demand.
Speaker 4: It was old school.
Speaker 3: I think, and I think that this is probably I
Speaker 3: think that it's not realistically going to be able to
Speaker 3: knock Weapons off number one because Weapons way overperformed. It
Speaker 3: overperformed to the point of like making like thirteen million
Speaker 3: dollars more than they.
Speaker 4: Thought it was going to make.
Speaker 2: This is going to be single digit millions open.
Speaker 3: I think this could be I think I think opening
Speaker 3: weekends nine.
Speaker 4: I think it could go eight to ten.
Speaker 3: I think that it does have a crossover with the
Speaker 3: weapons audience, which I do think is always, you know,
Speaker 3: you don't always want to be battling up against that.
Speaker 3: But I think that people who maybe have already seen weapons,
Speaker 3: or who don't necessarily want to go and see something
Speaker 3: that's really scary and instead want to just go and
Speaker 3: see something that's kind of like late summer fun I
Speaker 3: think it's got potential, and I do think it's opening
Speaker 3: in thirty two hundred thirty two hundred years, so it
Speaker 3: could over index and overform I went to see Weapons
Speaker 3: last night for the third time, and it was like,
Speaker 3: as I mentioned, there was an eight year old in there,
Speaker 3: but also it was jam packed and it was discount Tuesday,
Speaker 3: so that does happen. But it was like so loud
Speaker 3: that I could just constantly hear people eating popcorn like
Speaker 3: it was so it was so packed that you just couldn't.
Speaker 1: I don't in a movie will do that.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's got that kind of leg but
Speaker 4: I do think it could.
Speaker 3: People are excited to be at the movie there they
Speaker 3: see so it could be a bit more.
Speaker 2: I do see it going to VOD definitely.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, And I think as well, like for all
Speaker 3: we know, we'll see what kind of see what kind
Speaker 3: of kind of situation they're in, because also that you
Speaker 3: could do VOD, but they could also make a ton
Speaker 3: of money if they sell this to a different streaming
Speaker 3: site as it's place.
Speaker 4: Okay, So, Jason, Rosie, if you like.
Speaker 1: It, yes, if you like nobody what Rosie retired hit
Speaker 1: Person Slash you Fucked.
Speaker 2: With the Wrong Person movie?
Speaker 1: Okay, I recommend, And what it's a home alone movie,
Speaker 1: would you recommend?
Speaker 4: Okay? So let me look.
Speaker 3: Okay, So in my current I have currently fully committed
Speaker 3: to always changing my letter box top four, which I
Speaker 3: know people I'm not.
Speaker 4: They don't love that, but you know what, I can't
Speaker 4: help it, Guys.
Speaker 3: I love, I agree, I agree, So I'm a changer,
Speaker 3: I'm But what I do now is I specify. So
Speaker 3: after I saw Nobody, I put a selection of some
Speaker 3: of my favorite super violent dad slash wronged dad movies.
Speaker 3: This one of the ones that I'm going to recommend,
Speaker 3: is gonna come out soon on four K. It's been
Speaker 3: very hard to find up until now. They're actually doing
Speaker 3: a screening of it in La coming up soon with
Speaker 3: the star James Brolin. Still looking great by the way, Guys,
Speaker 3: he's like in his eighties. Still still looking great. Love
Speaker 3: James Brolin, And he is in this movie called Night
Speaker 3: of the Juggler where his daughter is kidnapped by a
Speaker 3: creep in like eighties Harlem, seventies eighties Harlem, which is
Speaker 3: completely broken down, and the movie is really grimy, really
Speaker 3: grow grubby like definitely has creepy overtones, but it is
Speaker 3: also essentially an eighty minute long chase through New York
Speaker 3: on multiple different public transport metro bus, feet, car, it's
Speaker 3: one of the best. I think it's such an underrated
Speaker 3: classic exploitation movie and they're doing a four K re release,
Speaker 3: so I think that is very much one of the
Speaker 3: early and most interesting kind of death Wish spin offs.
Speaker 3: So definitely that one. I would say one of my
Speaker 3: other kind of that's kind of a cheat one. One
Speaker 3: of the ones I have listed here is Trained to
Speaker 3: Busan because it's violent and there's a dad, but I
Speaker 3: don't think that really counts.
Speaker 4: But it's a good horror movie. Guys.
Speaker 3: I am a fan, of course of Park Chamwick's Old Boy.
Speaker 3: I think that is a very good aggrieved man movie
Speaker 3: that also influenced many of these films. So those would
Speaker 3: be two of my top ones. Jason, how about you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Eastern Promises two thousand and five.
Speaker 3: Ooh, one of the best sorry history, by history of it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with two thousand and five is a
Speaker 1: history of violence David Crohn, based on a comic book
Speaker 1: based on a graphic novel. David Cronenberg's adaptation of the
Speaker 1: graphic novel of the same name about a kitman who
Speaker 1: retires from the Chicago mob to go work at a.
Speaker 2: Diner and has a nice family.
Speaker 1: It's good one day things his world's intersect and he's
Speaker 1: gotta be violent again. It's a great one, and honestly
Speaker 1: it's oh, excuse me, Philadelphia Mob.
Speaker 2: It's a great one. And it's honestly beat for beat.
Speaker 1: You could put it over Nobody won, and it's kind of,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, all of these movies follow that's the same.
Speaker 3: Thing that is fun is like there are it is
Speaker 3: the same beats. But there's something that is so appealing
Speaker 3: about watching somebody go out of their way and the
Speaker 3: underdog story.
Speaker 4: You know, I do think that.
Speaker 3: I do still think John Wick is just we mentioned
Speaker 3: it a bunch of times, but it is just up there.
Speaker 3: I just think, Oh, you know which other one I love?
Speaker 3: Which is one of the craziest's absolute classic Tony Scott
Speaker 3: classic Man on Fire starring Denzel that's not the craziest movies.
Speaker 4: A Kitchen and Ac did hit Man.
Speaker 3: But he wouldn't necessarily have gone so hard if they
Speaker 3: hadn't stolen his young white charge.
Speaker 4: The code of Fanning, who.
Speaker 3: Is deeply close to who has seen through his hardened ways,
Speaker 3: and I'll never.
Speaker 4: Forget like some of the depths in that movie.
Speaker 3: It looks like a really prestigious American action movie, and
Speaker 3: it is, but like they are like blowing people up
Speaker 3: with like fireworks in their butt, like he's doing crazy
Speaker 3: things in there that put it up there, I think,
Speaker 3: with some of the best of these kind of movies.
Speaker 3: And then finally for a home alone, meaning a climax,
Speaker 3: a trap, yes, trap Leyden climax.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot to pick on here. You
Speaker 1: could say, Hobbs and Shaw, you could say, I think
Speaker 1: to some of the Equalizer films, do.
Speaker 4: This any Saw films or skuy fal Saw.
Speaker 1: Is basically I'm gonna go slight Twist. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: Return of the Jedi.
Speaker 4: Okay, love this.
Speaker 1: Those motherfucking e Wills, how they won the wall, you know,
Speaker 1: setting those traps with the logs and the rocks and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Don't count what they've done for the cause.
Speaker 3: Don't discount it because that's how they want. Okay, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna tell you guys, this is this is the movie
Speaker 3: that you should all go and watch. I believe it's
Speaker 3: probably still streaming somewhere like Chewby maybe now maybe shudder.
Speaker 3: This is the big controversial nineteen eighty nine French movie
Speaker 3: called Deadly Games, which I only found out about because
Speaker 3: of Shudder. It was also called Dial Code, Santa Claus,
Speaker 3: Game Over, Hide and Freak. It's basically a kid at
Speaker 3: Christmas in France whose house is broken into ala Home Alone.
Speaker 3: It's very much a Home Alone influence Anna, and but
Speaker 3: he goes like Ham. He's like a child prodigy who
Speaker 3: starts making like inventions and blowing things up, and it's
Speaker 3: really really good, scary, creepy stuff. It's it's definitely what
Speaker 3: they were trying to do with Home Alone. But they
Speaker 3: were like, you know, Americans and Christmas. And that's why
Speaker 3: I think Macaulay Culkin gives one of the old time
Speaker 3: like unintentionally creepy performances in Home Alone.
Speaker 1: I mean, Nobody to five stars out of five star
Speaker 1: rating system, What do you give it, Rosie?
Speaker 3: I think Nobody Too is a decidedly solid like a
Speaker 3: you're looking at. I would have said, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: trying to think about other movies I've rated this year.
Speaker 3: I rated Jurassic Park Rebirth, which was like a fine
Speaker 3: kind of streamlined movie that was like a three and
Speaker 3: a half for me. So I think I got to
Speaker 3: give Nobody two more of like A four, because I
Speaker 3: do think the invention of that. I think the action
Speaker 3: is really inventive. I think the cost is funny. I
Speaker 3: think that it's enjoyable, well shot movie. It's eighty nine
Speaker 3: minutes long. That's so I'm like, if you just me
Speaker 3: like a leaning me in it mean crazy action fun
Speaker 3: settings because of the notion of the theme park. I
Speaker 3: will also say I do think from the outset of
Speaker 3: the John Wick franchise, these guys have made interesting and
Speaker 3: thoughtful choices about who their bad guys are, so it
Speaker 3: doesn't always kind of fall into that more like very
Speaker 3: nefarious kind of death wish peppermint like weird crime racism
Speaker 3: kind of mindset. So I think this movie also follows
Speaker 3: along with that. And yeah, I mean, if you just
Speaker 3: want to see some people get killed on a water slide,
Speaker 3: then enjoying Nobody too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna give it a I'm gonna give a
Speaker 1: solid three and a half fat great action movie. There's
Speaker 1: nothing in here that's new or super surprising, but it's
Speaker 1: a it's a very entertaining, enjoyable time that again, at
Speaker 1: eighty nine minutes, really respects your time. When I got
Speaker 1: home from the movie. Christine was like, you're home already.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, lead a mean movie.
Speaker 3: Literally, you're like, no, two hour and forty long min here,
Speaker 3: Like no, I can just enjoy this. Also, it is
Speaker 3: really funny that the movie is written by the same
Speaker 3: guy and it's basically just all the same beats.
Speaker 1: I respect that, I respect, I respect that, I love
Speaker 1: your I love your ustle, I love that. On tomorrow's
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