WEBVTT - Nobody 2 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:05.320 Warning today's episode Kittaine spoilers for Nobody to Nobody No. 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:21.880 Hello. 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:25.200 My name is Jason Concepcion and I'm Urdy Night, and 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:27.200 welcome back to ext revision of the podcast Where Week. 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:29.280 I've de be your favorite shows. 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:31.560 Movies, comics, and pop culture company for my our podcast 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:36.200 Where're bringing you episodes every Tuesday Thursday plus like today, we're. 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:39.640 Discussing the summer's biggest movies every Friday, plus days on Saturday. 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:43.240 And in today's episode, we are going to be talking 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:48.080 about Nobody Too starring Bob Odenkirk. Don't we all love him. 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:51.520 We're gonna be talking about that. We're gonna talk about 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:55.240 some of our other favorite secret spies in the suburbs 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:57.880 type movies. And we're also gonna ask, like, what what 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:00.640 are actual movie's saying right now? Like what twenty twenty 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:05.160 five action movies? We are they telling us about the world? 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:05.800 Been living it? 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:10.600 Okay? Nobody Too? 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:16.959 Nobody two is the sequel to the surprise hit Nobody Won, 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:21.640 which was released in twenty twenty one, starring God starring 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:22.119 I Know. 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.559 Feels like it well is not that long though I. 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:26.760 Know it does not feel that long ago. 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:31.720 The first film was directed by Hardcore Harry's Ilia Nischuler 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:39.440 and written by John Wick Scribe Derek Coolstadt, starring Bob 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:45.080 Odenkirk and Nobody to picks up the baton from Nobody One, 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:52.280 still starring Bob Odenkirk, still written by Derek Colstad, but 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:59.200 this time directed by Timo Chahanto, Indonesian action filmmaker. And 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:03.919 your thoughts, Rosie upon seeing Nobody Too. 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:08.720 Yes, I was, I was. I have controversial takes on 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:11.480 Nobody Else was really good. I think, I think it's 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:14.400 a brilliantly made movie, but also I found it to 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:17.480 be quite like it's quite like a just a kind 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:21.760 of a gritty like grinding like hardcore watch. And I 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:24.520 think that's why people liked it. I mean, you mentioned 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:28.359 ilias the director of Nobody Wants for like big breakout 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:31.919 movie Hardcore Henry, which was like such a moment if 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:33.640 you were there for it, which was this kind of 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:38.000 crazy POV action movie that began as a short that 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:39.640 I think was like one of those big kind of 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:43.520 if you were on the internet in the zeros and tens, that. 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:45.360 Was like a big thing that you were looking for. 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:48.919 I really enjoyed Nobody Too because even though, and we'll 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:52.040 talk about this, it is essentially like the same beats. 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:56.840 I enjoyed the kind of you know, as we mentioned, 0:02:56.840 --> 0:03:00.800 the Dead Island kind of lens that they put this through, 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:04.120 where it's like, I like the colorful shirts. I like 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:06.800 the he's just trying to have a good holiday and 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:09.480 be a good dad. But you know, these people in 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:12.800 this small town Plumberville, this kind of American summer town, 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:17.000 are you know, nefarious and corrupt. I think there's been 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:21.079 some really good small town corruption movies this year with 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:25.280 Rebel Ridge obviously and other fantastic movie starring Future Green 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:28.680 Lanterns star Aaron Perre. That was very much we love 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:32.680 a small town corruption movie, like, yeah, it's a it's 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:35.600 American tradition. And I think for me, what I really 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:40.480 loved was I'm a big Timo fan. I loved Timo's 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:43.360 Timo used to make a lot of horror movies with 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:47.560 another director they call the Mo Brothers. They made Maccab, 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:50.280 they made stuff like that. But then he really came 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:55.480 back onto my kind of radar in when he made 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:59.119 The Night Comes for Us, which is on Netflix. It's 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:04.720 a Indonesian action horror kind of boss too. 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:08.720 Many super violent, too many throats for me, I love 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:11.000 I love you. 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:12.920 I was like, yeah, I get it. 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:14.440 I listen. 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:17.560 I love the action movies. I love violent movies. This 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:20.640 is a well made movie. It's just too many throats. 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:22.520 The Night Comes for Us is one of the most 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:23.239 violent movies. 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:27.040 It's one of the most like jugular cutting movies you will. 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:28.039 Ever see it. 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:31.600 It's like The Raid if The Raid was. 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:35.800 Like a Gorse black and it stars, it stars Eco 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:39.240 Us and it stars Joe Taslim. And then Timo has 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:42.200 done some other great movies that you know he did. 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:46.800 He'd recently had a new action movie on Netflix. He 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:52.120 did the really fun horror movies, Made The Devil Take You, 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:54.719 Made The Devil Take You Too, which very Sam raimish. 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:56.839 So what I really liked about this one was I 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:59.520 felt like he was able to bring his kind of 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:05.560 cartoonish direction of violence to this. You get a lot 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:09.080 of like teeth that coming now and people again like 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:11.840 kicked in the head, and there's the boat fight, which 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.400 was really fun. So I like that timas kind of 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:16.480 bring his more out their style. But I would say, 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:19.599 as well, definitely not like Night Comes for Us, is 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:21.479 that this is a completely fine. 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:25.960 The boat fight was wonderful. It's like, listen, you can 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:28.400 almost Here's what's fun about these movies kind of for me, 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.680 both one and two and particularly too. You can just 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:35.200 look and be like, ah, the tooth coming out like 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:39.159 from Wanted exactly, the fight on the boat like Jackie 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:42.440 Chan's police story fight on the bus, but on a boat, 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:48.240 and all these wonderful like little nods. You know, first 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:49.880 it's a first Blood set up. 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:51.240 And I also. 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:55.839 Liked listen, the action is really fun and to your point, 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:59.039 it it veers at times into an almost Tom and 0:05:59.160 --> 0:05:59.960 Jerry level. 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:02.760 Yeah, yeah, yeah, especially in this one, which I think 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:03.640 is really fun, like. 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:08.960 You could shoot somebody, sure, but why not trigger a 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:15.080 home alone style trap the super Bowl with knives to 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:16.599 like come out. 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:20.120 Like kill did love the stuff, you know what, I 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:21.800 will say, I'm glad you brought that up, because I 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:23.960 do think one of the reasons that this movie really 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:27.800 spoke to me was like, basically, in case you you know, 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:31.520 really need it, it is the family go on a vacation. 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:34.960 It's just after you know, continuing on from the first 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:36.919 movie where I just kind of gotten rid of the 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:39.719 people who causing problems in his family who raided his house. 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.640 Very classic death wish sty'll set up and now they're 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:44.880 going on vacation. They want everything to be normal, but 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:49.160 his son gets into it with a kid at an arcade, 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:53.400 and you unravel this kind of you know, chaotic corruption 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:56.119 under the small town. But I'm glad that you brought 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:59.120 it up because the final act of this movie is 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:02.440 what I think I'm looking for in many movies, which. 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:05.400 Is like, why are more movies set in theme pos? 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:08.040 Like why are the action movies. 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:09.880 And horror movies set in theme pox? Because I think 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:12.640 that is like an iconic setting for something fun. And 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:15.240 there's about three or four movies that have ever done it, well, 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:16.400 this being one of them. 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:19.360 Am I think that you know it's it has taken. 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:22.880 It took several decades, two and a half decades, almost 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:27.400 three three decades for the home alone finish to become 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:30.960 the part to become a trope. You know, maybe it 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:34.080 was SETI Fall that was really the high brow movie 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:38.160 that was like what if we just got home alone there? 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:42.080 And you know this the entire climax of this film, 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:44.400 I'm just thinking, great, We're gonna get a home alone 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:48.680 in a Carnival good. And I think that now that 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:52.360 it's been this long and we've you know, we've started 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:55.800 the ball rolling with this, I agree with you. I 0:07:55.880 --> 0:08:01.640 love a good like Booby Trap laden Finish a Home Alone. 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:04.680 And I think we're gonna start to see more of 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:05.160 these now. 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:05.440 Yeah. 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:06.480 Fun. 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:07.600 I think it's fun. 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:10.840 And also we've you know, Rube Goldberg machines are ever 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:14.080 more popular whether you're in a Saw type situation. You know, 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:16.560 we're like fifteen twenty years out from the first Saw 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:20.040 movie now, so I feel like we can explore that. 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:26.480 I also think that there is something just decidedly thrilling. 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:28.920 It's the nature of going on a roller coaster, right 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:31.400 is it looks dangerous, but it's not dangerous. 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:33.280 So I think that seeing. 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:37.079 A space like that that then becomes dangerous and has 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:39.679 all these kind of terrifying traps is very fun. 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:40.760 There's only other like. 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:44.120 I watched a movie a very long time ago, Spanish movie. 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:46.440 I believe it's called a Christmas Tale, and it's about 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:51.800 some kids who accidentally trap a bank robber who is 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:54.640 dressed as Santa in a pit, and because they're eleven 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:57.640 year olds, they get kind of obsessed with like keeping 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:01.400 the person in the pit, and it's really kind of 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:05.320 a creepy moralistic tale until at the end she just 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:08.719 escapes and chases them through a water park dressed the 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:12.840 Santa with an axe. And I always remember just being like, yes, also, 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:14.640 you know something that was kind of blowing my mind 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:17.520 when I was watching Nobody to which I'm interested to 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.319 see if we'll like translate for an average audience member. 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:24.400 I just feel like this is a very stacked movie castwise. 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:26.440 I feel like you not only do you have obviously 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:30.000 Bob Odenkirk Connie Nilson returning, but then you have like 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:36.560 Colin Hanks is the evil corruption against and goes like 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:40.720 really into it. You've got Christopher Lloyd. He's doing a 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:42.800 classic like crazy dad vibe. 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:43.160 Here. 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:51.120 Who's who you've seen in things such as the Michael Man, 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:54.480 Miami Heat, Miami Vice. Excuse me, you've seen him in 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:56.680 Carlito's Way, You've seen him. 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:59.000 In and that's a answer. 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:02.240 And he it's fun and he gets a fun kind 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:05.400 of twist on this story too, like where you expect 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:08.600 him to be somewhere. Also, McKenna grace is in this movie. 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:11.720 Like they stacked it up. I think post nobody Wan 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:13.880 and I think we can see this with a lot 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:17.360 of the North, the eighty seven North, like David. 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:18.160 Lee type stuff. 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:19.800 Yeah, post John Wick. 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:22.720 This stuff appeals to people they want to be in 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:25.800 the next one after Nobody. I think people watched it 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:27.800 and said, I want to be in whatever that is. 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:29.880 Yeah, I agree with you, And I think the appeal 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:35.880 is something like this, Hey, Sharon Stone, it's a cool 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:39.160 whatever her price is like a couple of million, We 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:42.280 shoot you out in five days. You're in and out 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:44.920 in five days. You don't have to sit on like 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:50.040 in Vancouver or wherever for a month. And it's and 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:52.920 you can basically just be crazy and do what you want. 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:55.360 I think that's the appeal, which is and is a 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:58.560 grand appeal. Like Christopher Lloyd. When I saw Christopher Lloyd 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:01.080 in the first one, I was like, wait a second, 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:04.520 Christopher Lloyd is eighty. 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:09.120 Two yep, wow, this yeah is having a sun. 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:13.400 The casting for these is spectacular. I think part of 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:15.920 it is the fact that they can probably pay a 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:19.920 good a good salary because and it's everything else is 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:26.160 clearly done the cheapest, high quality way you can do it. 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:29.560 Yeah, which, honestly, this is now going to become I think, 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:32.240 you know, I was on a skate patch yesterday talking 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:36.360 about gong Girl, and we were kind of talking about 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:40.240 the loss of the mid range, mid budget movie that could. 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:43.000 For example, Gongirl costs like sixty million dollars, but it 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:46.080 made three hundred and seventy million dollars, which now would 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:49.320 be a kind of good EMCU take in twenty twenty five, 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:52.240 and this, I think is the new version of that. 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:54.160 Way the budget for this movie. 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:56.439 Twenty five, Yeah, the new it's like, this is twenty 0:11:56.480 --> 0:12:00.000 five million dollars. It's a twenty five million dollar budget. 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:03.280 But if this opens, you know to ten, fifteen, twenty, 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:05.520 it's gonna do great. But the first one made a 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:06.120 ton of money. 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:06.920 For Universe, I'm. 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:08.120 Like, called fifteen million. Die. 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:10.280 I forget the budget on it was what it was, 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:12.880 but it was they made like sixty million on a 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:15.040 less than twenty million dollar budget or something. 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:17.800 I think as well, like because of the way that 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:21.319 streaming has changed how people watch stuff in America obviously, 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:22.400 and I always talk about this. 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:24.080 I think it's great. It's one of the things I 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:25.200 really think is. 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:28.559 A great choice culturally, is like I think the R 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:32.000 rating is a really powerful choice here because you can 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:34.440 take a kid to an R rated movie if you 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:36.640 are their guardian or you were an adult, and I 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:39.360 think it opens up what people can and can't see, 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:41.839 whereas in England you have to have like your passport 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:44.080 to go and see an eighteen rated movie, Like they're 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:47.040 really really hardcore about it. And I think so there 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:50.560 was always a culture of people of all different ages 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:53.199 going to see movies here. Last night I went to 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:56.440 see Weapons again and there was an eight year old 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:58.640 in there and you know what, that kids slaunched it out, 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:02.440 so good for the parents. But like, something I think 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:06.200 about movies like this now is in a post streaming 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:09.040 world where every kid has watched a YouTube video about 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:12.120 all the worst deaths in john Wick or all the 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:15.400 craziest times that Freddie versus Jason killed each other, I 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:18.040 think a kid can like this could be a movie 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:21.320 where there is a wider quadrant than you would expect 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:22.800 who is going to go and want to see. 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:25.240 And I think to your point, there is clearly a 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:31.920 space for people love the john Wick style setup. A 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:36.160 man has been aggrieved in some way by the powers 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:39.600 that be and he gets revenge, and I think there's clearly, 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:43.240 as the success of Nobody Won has shown, there's clearly 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:47.160 a space for that setup. But just like less crazy, 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:48.480 less gritty than John Wick. 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:49.679 They did it like. 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:55.079 More fun and slightly more comedic and lower the death count, 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:56.920 Like a lot of people get beat up, but only 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:59.680 a few people die now, and if they. 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:01.920 Do, they die in like a crazily comedic way, like 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:04.640 an anchor is going through the head. So you're kind 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:07.400 of like, isn't that like an episode of Paulpie right? 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:10.120 And so I think that there is. I think there's 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:11.360 clearly a space for that. 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:13.520 And I think part of it is, like, what's interesting 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:18.640 to me about watching this movie was like, how clearly 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:24.160 what resonates is, uh, you like this movie because the 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:27.640 world is fucked it is. You feel like it is corrupt. 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:31.400 You feel like the skills you would need to fight 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:34.360 back against it are like impossible. You would have to 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:36.800 be I'd have to be like a retired government assassin 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:38.720 or something exactly to figure out how to do it. 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:40.920 And so this the wish fulfillment in this movie is 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:43.960 quite clear. It's like, here's a guy just wants to 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:46.200 live a normal life like everybody else wants to live 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:49.120 a normal life, only he's the one they shouldn't have 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:56.200 fucked with. And again it's so simple and yet extremely satisfying. 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:59.680 And there's nothing we were talking about this pre mic 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:04.720 plot wise characterized. There's nothing that's a surprise in this 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:07.680 movie or nobody won, like you know, nobody won. The 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:12.320 the the guys walk onto the bus and you understand. 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:16.400 Do you understand that he's about yeah, good app But 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:18.720 then it becomes how do you show that? 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:22.280 And I think what acts? The real surprise is that 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:28.560 it's Bob Odenkirk. Here's the guy from Mister Show and 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:32.600 from you know better call Sauw who good actor, good 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:36.480 dramatic actor, more more known for his comedic work. Who 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.160 nobody was thinking, oh action star. 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:43.080 And that to me is. 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:46.600 Like, it's an interesting twist on it because you're it's like, 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:49.040 give us the genre stuff that is tried and true, 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:55.320 like literally a genre, the the middle aged aggrieved man 0:15:56.040 --> 0:16:00.720 is a genre that is so yes. But this twist 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:03.360 is what if we cast it really interestingly like what 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:04.160 you know? 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:09.200 And I think that exactly. I think that is what 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:15.600 David Leitch and Chad Steleski have been doing since the 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:18.480 first John Wick movie. Because even that movie, having Keanu 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:23.160 Reeves as that character was like a meta textual commentary 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:26.040 and understanding of what he did well but that he 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:29.080 had always been critiqued for, which is like this almost 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:32.560 Hong Kong inspired style of acting that's really about action 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:36.200 and movement instead of you know, emotions and everything. 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:37.680 In the most normal way. 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:39.800 But the other thing that John Wick did that I 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:43.400 think is really great and for me is why this 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:48.920 era of Nobody and John Wick is a great subversion 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:52.640 and kind of elevation of the traditional revenge movie is 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:55.360 if you look back at something like Charles Bronson, who 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:57.800 I have to say, I grew up loving B movies 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:00.680 and exploitations, so I used to watch those movies a lot. 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:04.840 But like Death Wish, for example, all those movies begin 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:09.239 with like a horrific assault on a woman, and I 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:12.200 think that for a long time, the idea of these 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:15.200 movies was like a man has to rectify something bad 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:18.760 that was done to his property aka his house, or 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:22.040 his wife or his children. And there's like five Death 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:25.480 Wish movies because of that and about that. So I 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:29.720 think what I really love about Nobody one established more 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.239 of this idea of like what if somebody invades your 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:34.920 home and the sanctity of your home and the safety 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:37.280 of your home that you built, rather than like what 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:40.199 if they sexually assault your teenage daughter? Like And I 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:43.200 think that with john Wick, one of the reasons that movie. 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:46.240 Had such a killing reach what if they kill your dog? 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:49.399 Like what if it's something that you can imagine being 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:52.600 the thing that breaks you, But it doesn't have to 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:55.480 begin in that like truly exploitative place. And I think 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:57.480 that's why these are so fun for me. And I 0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:01.760 think as well, like you know, this movie especially builds 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:04.399 on what we've seen and nobody won by kind of 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:08.480 establishing this almost franchised mindset of like, well, their son 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:11.040 clearly has aggression issues, but if he uses them in 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:13.120 the right way, he too can be a cool assassin 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:16.800 who beats up corrupt people. And you get Connie Nielsen, 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:18.560 who is suddenly. 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:20.239 Like they're like, by the way, by the way, I 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:23.400 thought she was just a normal successful wife, She's a sniper. 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:25.639 She's also a successful sniper. 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:28.679 And I think, like there's I like to see the 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:31.680 ways that they try and build these worlds out when 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:33.760 they make movies like this. I think that's one of 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:36.280 the most fun things about John The law is how 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:39.000 you expand the world, and the law, the John Wick 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:40.000 law is insane. 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:44.000 I mean the law of nobody too is only not 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:47.720 insane because we don't know that much about it yet. 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:52.320 I will say that the more I. 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:55.359 Learn and you learn more about nobody too, for instance, 0:18:55.400 --> 0:19:00.320 you learn that, uh, it's Hutch and the resist dad 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:04.000 was like involved in this town for was like. 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:08.360 Bringing a holiday, but really it was some kind of. 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:14.040 Mission right because uh, you know, drugs and counterfeit goods 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:17.760 and chemical precursors for drugs and things are coming back 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:21.480 from Canada into this small town and Hutch's dad and 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:26.200 his dad was involved in this. And there's also the 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:30.200 thing of I forget the name of the character who 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:33.240 in one and two Hutch calls on the phone and is. 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:37.160 Like his content is like, oh, it's his governments, contact government, 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:40.520 his government handler who is in this for like a minute, 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:41.080 but it's. 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:44.840 Has the Michael Michael Well it was Michael Ironside in 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:46.520 the right in the first one. But you know who 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:48.399 is it? No, it's the I'm talking about the British 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:50.800 guy who's like in the barbershop and he's just. 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:58.320 This you've got in trouble this time you missed. 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:01.240 You're gonna have to keep your head down on this one, 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:04.879 Old boy. 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:06.560 A right, John Wick, and Sir John, I think that's 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:09.280 one of my one of my things that I really 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:13.159 enjoy about this era of like crazy action movies. 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:14.800 It's basically just that we're. 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:16.760 In a time where people are allowed to have a 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:18.879 lot more fun with it and there is more of 0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:23.160 a kind of wild style approach. Whether it's The Kingsman 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:26.440 or whether it's John Wick or whether it's nobody, We're 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:30.320 getting these different versions of what an action movie can be. 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:33.560 And I do think that historically there's a good action 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:37.080 comedy tradition in America, So I feel like these fit in. 0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:39.840 And I think that there is the other influence that 0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:43.080 I'd like to call out on this movie specifically, and 0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:48.879 they want is the is the genre of YouTube video 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:53.800 that's like Bully gets his due, Bully picks. 0:20:53.640 --> 0:20:58.199 On the wrong guy. Yeah, And I mean that is 0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:00.439 the power of both of these movies. 0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:04.359 Every single absolutely set pieces like Bully picks on the 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:06.760 wrong guy, you did it, you did the wrong thing 0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:10.600 this time, like when the when the carnival guy smacks 0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:14.640 the back of Hutch's daughter's head and you just know, Okay. 0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:16.200 You're just like what and also like that's such a 0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:19.440 stupid just like take one step back, bro like, don't 0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:20.720 don't hit an eleven. 0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:24.920 Year old girl. But I am excited for the inevitable addition. 0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:28.280 And Nobody three of like the girl becoming really cool. 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:30.960 Oh no, that's gonna get it. That's definitely gonna hand 0:21:31.000 --> 0:21:31.879 it off to the family. 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:34.440 You go to hand it off to the family. Nobody three. 0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:37.520 It's called like family vacation and like it's like a 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:40.200 National Lampoon movie and they just go to a different place. 0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:42.160 Take a quick break, and then we'll do some opening 0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:47.119