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Speaker 1: Warning today's episode Kittaine spoilers for Nobody to Nobody No.

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Speaker 2: Hello.

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Speaker 1: My name is Jason Concepcion and I'm Urdy Night, and

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Speaker 1: welcome back to ext revision of the podcast Where Week.

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Speaker 2: I've de be your favorite shows.

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Speaker 1: Movies, comics, and pop culture company for my our podcast

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Speaker 1: Where're bringing you episodes every Tuesday Thursday plus like today, we're.

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Speaker 2: Discussing the summer's biggest movies every Friday, plus days on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: And in today's episode, we are going to be talking

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Speaker 3: about Nobody Too starring Bob Odenkirk. Don't we all love him.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna be talking about that. We're gonna talk about

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Speaker 3: some of our other favorite secret spies in the suburbs

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Speaker 3: type movies. And we're also gonna ask, like, what what

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Speaker 3: are actual movie's saying right now? Like what twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: five action movies? We are they telling us about the world?

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Speaker 4: Been living it?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Nobody Too?

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Speaker 1: Nobody two is the sequel to the surprise hit Nobody Won,

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Speaker 1: which was released in twenty twenty one, starring God starring

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Speaker 1: I Know.

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Speaker 2: Feels like it well is not that long though I.

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Speaker 4: Know it does not feel that long ago.

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Speaker 1: The first film was directed by Hardcore Harry's Ilia Nischuler

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Speaker 1: and written by John Wick Scribe Derek Coolstadt, starring Bob

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Speaker 1: Odenkirk and Nobody to picks up the baton from Nobody One,

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Speaker 1: still starring Bob Odenkirk, still written by Derek Colstad, but

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Speaker 1: this time directed by Timo Chahanto, Indonesian action filmmaker. And

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Speaker 1: your thoughts, Rosie upon seeing Nobody Too.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I was, I was. I have controversial takes on

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Speaker 3: Nobody Else was really good. I think, I think it's

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Speaker 3: a brilliantly made movie, but also I found it to

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Speaker 3: be quite like it's quite like a just a kind

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Speaker 3: of a gritty like grinding like hardcore watch. And I

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Speaker 3: think that's why people liked it. I mean, you mentioned

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Speaker 3: ilias the director of Nobody Wants for like big breakout

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Speaker 3: you were there for it, which was this kind of

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Speaker 3: if you were on the internet in the zeros and tens, that.

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Speaker 4: Was like a big thing that you were looking for.

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Speaker 3: I really enjoyed Nobody Too because even though, and we'll

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Speaker 3: I enjoyed the kind of you know, as we mentioned,

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Speaker 3: the Dead Island kind of lens that they put this through,

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Speaker 3: where it's like, I like the colorful shirts. I like

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Speaker 3: the he's just trying to have a good holiday and

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Speaker 3: be a good dad. But you know, these people in

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Speaker 3: this small town Plumberville, this kind of American summer town,

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Speaker 3: are you know, nefarious and corrupt. I think there's been

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Speaker 3: some really good small town corruption movies this year with

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Speaker 3: Lanterns star Aaron Perre. That was very much we love

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Speaker 3: a small town corruption movie, like, yeah, it's a it's

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Speaker 3: Timo used to make a lot of horror movies with

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Speaker 3: another director they call the Mo Brothers. They made Maccab,

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Speaker 3: they made stuff like that. But then he really came

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Speaker 3: The Night Comes for Us, which is on Netflix. It's

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Speaker 1: Many super violent, too many throats for me, I love

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Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, I get it.

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Speaker 2: I listen.

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Speaker 1: I love the action movies. I love violent movies. This

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Speaker 4: The Night Comes for Us is one of the most

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Speaker 1: It's one of the most like jugular cutting movies you will.

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Speaker 4: It's like The Raid if The Raid was.

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Speaker 3: Like a Gorse black and it stars, it stars Eco

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Speaker 1: The boat fight was wonderful. It's like, listen, you can

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Speaker 1: from Wanted exactly, the fight on the boat like Jackie

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Speaker 1: and all these wonderful like little nods. You know, first

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Speaker 1: Liked listen, the action is really fun and to your point,

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Speaker 1: it it veers at times into an almost Tom and

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Speaker 1: You could shoot somebody, sure, but why not trigger a

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Speaker 3: Very classic death wish sty'll set up and now they're

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Speaker 3: what I think I'm looking for in many movies, which.

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Speaker 4: Is like, why are more movies set in theme pos?

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Speaker 1: Am I think that you know it's it has taken.

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Speaker 1: that was like what if we just got home alone there?

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Speaker 2: And I think we're gonna start to see more of

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Speaker 3: And also we've you know, Rube Goldberg machines are ever

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Speaker 3: I also think that there is something just decidedly thrilling.

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Speaker 4: So I think that seeing.

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Speaker 3: I watched a movie a very long time ago, Spanish movie.

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Speaker 3: I just feel like this is a very stacked movie castwise.

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Speaker 3: This stuff appeals to people they want to be in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you, And I think the appeal

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Speaker 1: The casting for these is spectacular. I think part of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which, honestly, this is now going to become I think,

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Speaker 4: Way the budget for this movie.

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Speaker 3: A right, John Wick, and Sir John, I think that's

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Speaker 1: box office predictions. Your box office prediction on a budget

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Speaker 1: of twenty five million dollars, Nobody to kind of a

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Speaker 2: I think right now it's a good weekend.

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Speaker 4: To be opening. I do think that.

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Speaker 3: What's going to happen that I think is interesting about

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Speaker 3: It made twenty seven million dollars domestically fifty seven million dollars.

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Speaker 3: I think this could be I think I think opening

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Speaker 3: that I could just constantly hear people eating popcorn like

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Speaker 3: it was so it was so packed that you just couldn't.

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Speaker 1: I don't in a movie will do that.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's got that kind of leg but

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Speaker 4: I do think it could.

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Speaker 3: People are excited to be at the movie there they

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Speaker 3: see so it could be a bit more.

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Speaker 2: I do see it going to VOD definitely.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, And I think as well, like for all

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Speaker 3: we know, we'll see what kind of see what kind

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Speaker 3: of kind of situation they're in, because also that you

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Speaker 3: could do VOD, but they could also make a ton

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Speaker 3: of money if they sell this to a different streaming

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Speaker 3: site as it's place.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So, Jason, Rosie, if you like.

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Speaker 1: It, yes, if you like nobody what Rosie retired hit

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Speaker 1: Person Slash you Fucked.

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Speaker 2: With the Wrong Person movie?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I recommend, And what it's a home alone movie,

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Speaker 1: would you recommend?

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Speaker 4: Okay? So let me look.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So in my current I have currently fully committed

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Speaker 3: to always changing my letter box top four, which I

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Speaker 3: know people I'm not.

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Speaker 4: They don't love that, but you know what, I can't

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Speaker 4: help it, Guys.

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Speaker 3: I love, I agree, I agree, So I'm a changer,

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Speaker 3: I'm But what I do now is I specify. So

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Speaker 3: after I saw Nobody, I put a selection of some

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Speaker 3: of my favorite super violent dad slash wronged dad movies.

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Speaker 3: This one of the ones that I'm going to recommend,

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Speaker 3: is gonna come out soon on four K. It's been

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Speaker 3: very hard to find up until now. They're actually doing

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Speaker 3: a screening of it in La coming up soon with

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Speaker 3: the star James Brolin. Still looking great by the way, Guys,

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Speaker 3: he's like in his eighties. Still still looking great. Love

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Speaker 3: James Brolin, And he is in this movie called Night

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Speaker 3: of the Juggler where his daughter is kidnapped by a

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Speaker 3: creep in like eighties Harlem, seventies eighties Harlem, which is

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Speaker 3: completely broken down, and the movie is really grimy, really

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Speaker 3: grow grubby like definitely has creepy overtones, but it is

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Speaker 3: also essentially an eighty minute long chase through New York

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Speaker 3: on multiple different public transport metro bus, feet, car, it's

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Speaker 3: one of the best. I think it's such an underrated

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Speaker 3: classic exploitation movie and they're doing a four K re release,

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Speaker 3: so I think that is very much one of the

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Speaker 3: early and most interesting kind of death Wish spin offs.

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Speaker 3: So definitely that one. I would say one of my

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Speaker 3: other kind of that's kind of a cheat one. One

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Speaker 3: of the ones I have listed here is Trained to

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Speaker 3: Busan because it's violent and there's a dad, but I

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Speaker 3: don't think that really counts.

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Speaker 4: But it's a good horror movie. Guys.

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Speaker 3: I am a fan, of course of Park Chamwick's Old Boy.

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Speaker 3: I think that is a very good aggrieved man movie

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Speaker 3: that also influenced many of these films. So those would

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Speaker 3: be two of my top ones. Jason, how about you.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Eastern Promises two thousand and five.

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Speaker 3: Ooh, one of the best sorry history, by history of it.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with two thousand and five is a

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Speaker 1: history of violence David Crohn, based on a comic book

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Speaker 1: based on a graphic novel. David Cronenberg's adaptation of the

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Speaker 1: graphic novel of the same name about a kitman who

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Speaker 1: retires from the Chicago mob to go work at a.

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Speaker 2: Diner and has a nice family.

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Speaker 1: It's good one day things his world's intersect and he's

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Speaker 1: gotta be violent again. It's a great one, and honestly

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Speaker 1: it's oh, excuse me, Philadelphia Mob.

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Speaker 2: It's a great one. And it's honestly beat for beat.

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Speaker 1: You could put it over Nobody won, and it's kind of,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, all of these movies follow that's the same.

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Speaker 3: Thing that is fun is like there are it is

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Speaker 3: the same beats. But there's something that is so appealing

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Speaker 3: about watching somebody go out of their way and the

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Speaker 3: underdog story.

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Speaker 4: You know, I do think that.

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Speaker 3: I do still think John Wick is just we mentioned

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Speaker 3: it a bunch of times, but it is just up there.

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Speaker 3: I just think, Oh, you know which other one I love?

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Speaker 3: Which is one of the craziest's absolute classic Tony Scott

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Speaker 3: classic Man on Fire starring Denzel that's not the craziest movies.

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Speaker 4: A Kitchen and Ac did hit Man.

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Speaker 3: But he wouldn't necessarily have gone so hard if they

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Speaker 3: hadn't stolen his young white charge.

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Speaker 4: The code of Fanning, who.

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Speaker 3: Is deeply close to who has seen through his hardened ways,

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Speaker 3: and I'll never.

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Speaker 4: Forget like some of the depths in that movie.

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Speaker 3: It looks like a really prestigious American action movie, and

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Speaker 3: it is, but like they are like blowing people up

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Speaker 3: with like fireworks in their butt, like he's doing crazy

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Speaker 3: things in there that put it up there, I think,

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Speaker 3: with some of the best of these kind of movies.

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Speaker 3: And then finally for a home alone, meaning a climax,

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Speaker 3: a trap, yes, trap Leyden climax.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot to pick on here. You

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Speaker 1: could say, Hobbs and Shaw, you could say, I think

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Speaker 1: to some of the Equalizer films, do.

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Speaker 4: This any Saw films or skuy fal Saw.

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Speaker 1: Is basically I'm gonna go slight Twist. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: Return of the Jedi.

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Speaker 4: Okay, love this.

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Speaker 1: Those motherfucking e Wills, how they won the wall, you know,

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Speaker 1: setting those traps with the logs and the rocks and

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Speaker 1: all that stuff. Don't count what they've done for the cause.

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Speaker 3: Don't discount it because that's how they want. Okay, I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna tell you guys, this is this is the movie

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Speaker 3: that you should all go and watch. I believe it's

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Speaker 3: probably still streaming somewhere like Chewby maybe now maybe shudder.

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Speaker 3: This is the big controversial nineteen eighty nine French movie

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Speaker 3: called Deadly Games, which I only found out about because

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Speaker 3: of Shudder. It was also called Dial Code, Santa Claus,

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Speaker 3: Game Over, Hide and Freak. It's basically a kid at

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Speaker 3: Christmas in France whose house is broken into ala Home Alone.

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Speaker 3: It's very much a Home Alone influence Anna, and but

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Speaker 3: he goes like Ham. He's like a child prodigy who

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Speaker 3: starts making like inventions and blowing things up, and it's

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Speaker 3: really really good, scary, creepy stuff. It's it's definitely what

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Speaker 3: they were trying to do with Home Alone. But they

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Speaker 3: were like, you know, Americans and Christmas. And that's why

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Speaker 3: I think Macaulay Culkin gives one of the old time

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Speaker 3: like unintentionally creepy performances in Home Alone.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Nobody to five stars out of five star

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Speaker 1: rating system, What do you give it, Rosie?

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Speaker 3: I think Nobody Too is a decidedly solid like a

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Speaker 3: you're looking at. I would have said, you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: trying to think about other movies I've rated this year.

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Speaker 3: I rated Jurassic Park Rebirth, which was like a fine

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Speaker 3: kind of streamlined movie that was like a three and

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Speaker 3: a half for me. So I think I got to

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Speaker 3: give Nobody two more of like A four, because I

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Speaker 3: do think the invention of that. I think the action

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Speaker 3: is really inventive. I think the cost is funny. I

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Speaker 3: think that it's enjoyable, well shot movie. It's eighty nine

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Speaker 3: minutes long. That's so I'm like, if you just me

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Speaker 3: like a leaning me in it mean crazy action fun

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Speaker 3: settings because of the notion of the theme park. I

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Speaker 3: will also say I do think from the outset of

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Speaker 3: the John Wick franchise, these guys have made interesting and

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Speaker 3: thoughtful choices about who their bad guys are, so it

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Speaker 3: doesn't always kind of fall into that more like very

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Speaker 3: nefarious kind of death wish peppermint like weird crime racism

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Speaker 3: kind of mindset. So I think this movie also follows

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Speaker 3: along with that. And yeah, I mean, if you just

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Speaker 3: want to see some people get killed on a water slide,

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Speaker 3: then enjoying Nobody too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna give it a I'm gonna give a

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Speaker 1: solid three and a half fat great action movie. There's

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Speaker 1: nothing in here that's new or super surprising, but it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a very entertaining, enjoyable time that again, at

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Speaker 1: eighty nine minutes, really respects your time. When I got

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Speaker 1: home from the movie. Christine was like, you're home already.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, lead a mean movie.

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Speaker 3: Literally, you're like, no, two hour and forty long min here,

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Speaker 3: Like no, I can just enjoy this. Also, it is

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Speaker 3: really funny that the movie is written by the same

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Speaker 3: guy and it's basically just all the same beats.

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Speaker 1: I respect that, I respect, I respect that, I love

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Speaker 1: your I love your ustle, I love that. On tomorrow's

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Speaker 1: episode of extra Vision, we're breaking down the biggest news

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Speaker 1: of the week. It's news that's it for this episode

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Speaker 1: that you're listening. X ray Vision is hosted by Jason

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Speaker 1: Cepcion and Rosie Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kaufman.

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Speaker 2: Our supervising producer is Abuzafar.

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Speaker 3: Our producers are Common Laurent Dean Jonathan and Bay Wack.

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Speaker 1: songs by Aaron Kaufman.

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