WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Are We Bargain Shopping? 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:06.840 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:16.720 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Players 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:21.960 Lounge broadcasting line from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:27.640 Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny McCray, and Knew he scrugs. 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:32.760 All right, it's that time. It's Friday. It is time 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:35.920 for the Players Lounge. All right, We've got one hour 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:38.680 with your boys, and we have a lot of topics 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:40.880 to get to. I'm knew, we scrugs, longtime Cowboys reporter, 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:43.839 joined by two former Dallas Cowboys safeties, Barry Church and 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:48.839 Danny McCray. All Right, fellas a lot going on. Can 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:51.240 we start with free agency? Is that good by you guys? 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:55.320 That's good with your boy? Whatever knew he wants, whatever 0:00:55.400 --> 0:01:01.120 knew he wants. I'm all in. Cowboys is not happy. 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:04.480 Cowboy Nation wants moves. Cowboy Nation sees what the Patriots 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:07.759 are doing and they want to see that happen here. 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:10.280 And a part of me is laughing because what do 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:14.920 we see written midway through every season? Hey, everybody who 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:17.200 ran out there the first week of free agency, these 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:20.480 deals aren't as good as they thought. You know, don't 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:22.440 do it. And you used to hear people say the 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:25.240 Patriots they understand how to do it right. They don't 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:27.040 go out here the first week of free agency. They 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:29.840 let everybody else go. Well, then the Patriots run out 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:32.759 here first week of freec Yeah, see great job, Bill, 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:35.720 look at what they're doing. I'm just trying to understand 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:38.840 how should this go. Guys, what do we believe. Do 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:41.760 we believe bad money spent free agency the first week 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:46.720 or not? I don't. I think it depends on the player. 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:48.760 I don't. I think there's good money they can be 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:51.120 spent in the first week of free agency. And we're 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:53.920 gonna give Bill Belichick a pass because he is the 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:55.920 great Bill Belichick said, We're just going to assume that 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:58.920 he knows exactly what he's doing, especially since he didn't 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:02.160 have anything to work with last year. But there are 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:04.040 some guys who go out there and spend too much money. 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:05.600 Jerry would tell you that he went out there and 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:08.400 got Brandon Car for fifty million dollars and he overpaid 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:11.960 for him. But ever since then he's been a little gunshot. 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:15.040 So I think that there were some moves that we 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:17.679 could have made. I was looking at Patrick Peterson thinking 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:20.480 we can get a veteran corner out there or making 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:22.560 some type of splash on the d line. But I 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:24.360 guess we're gonna wait to the draft for that. So 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:27.320 Jerry's gonna stick to his guns and just and just 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:30.560 wait it out. Yeah, I think he's gonna gonna wait 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:32.720 it out. And then well, first let me address the 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:35.320 Bill Belichick, the great Bill Belichick. I don't know how 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:38.240 great he's been. All Right, my boy Tom Brady left 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:41.720 and everything off the cliff. If we look at his 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:45.240 draft record, I mean, I'm not sure. I'm not sure 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:47.760 he don't two players Brady and Gronkowski. So I'm not 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:51.480 sure about the Great Bill Belichick. But back to the question, Um, look, 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:54.120 I think I think the Cowboys, man, if we if 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:56.680 we watched their track record ever since, like Danny McCrae 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:59.480 just stated, ever since you know, we paid b car, 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:02.560 we haven't made that big splash in free agency. And 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:04.720 I feel like their philosophy is, you know, groom from 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:07.120 within and pay your guys that you draft from within. 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:10.480 Has it always worked out? No? But the free agent 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:12.680 class we had last year when we went out there 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:14.280 and we did a little bargain shop and we did 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:16.000 a little here, in a little bit of there, they 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:21.280 were terrible. I mean, Jerry, every single free agent that 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:23.960 we brought to the team, half of them were cut 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:26.760 before even the season started. So for Cowboys, they should 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:28.520 to go out there and say, hey, let's plunge, just plunge, 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:30.560 let's plunge. I mean, look at our track with do 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:32.600 we want to spend fifty million on something and ended 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:34.359 up being a bus Then we're really in the hole. 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:37.720 So for me, I'm gonna continue to ride with the 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:39.880 with the Joneses have been doing these past couple of years. 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:43.280 Built from within. There are some moves out there and 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:46.080 free agency that I would like to see the Cowboys make, 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:48.040 but I'm not sure they would like. I said that 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:51.040 free safety position, to me is one of the top 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:53.560 priorities that we gotta get after. And there's plenty of 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:56.760 free safety free agents out there that will not break 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:58.880 the bank. I've named the couple already on this show 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:02.400 to Sean Gibson Trey Boston. There's plenty of options out 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:04.760 there that can help this defense, and they're bargains and 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:07.480 they're very solid players. So for the free agents that 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:10.520 we've gotten already so far on this defensive line. I'm 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:12.520 gonna be honest with you, I haven't really heard a 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:15.160 lot about those guys, but hopefully they can come in 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:17.640 here and provide some depth or provide some pop for 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:19.880 this defense, because we know we know we needed. But 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:22.120 going back to the question, I just feel like the 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:24.320 Jones is on. They've been doing a pretty good job 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:27.240 these past couple of years as far as fielding a team. 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:28.760 I know last year was kind of that, you know, 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:30.680 we're just gonna throw that away because that WHO free 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:32.840 agent class was terrible. But I'm gonna ride with them 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:35.440 and hopefully they can get some more guys defense to help. 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:38.800 So so, so tell me this would you have liked 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:41.400 to see? Listen? Because I know you guys are all 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:44.920 on the Alabama cornerback and all that. It's two guys. 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:47.320 It's two guys out there, all right. I think I 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:50.839 think that's a good bargain price for Patrick Peterson and 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:54.520 Kyle Fuller just became available on the market. If I'm 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:57.320 looking at guys who I would pick, I would have 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:01.359 taken over the unknown of certain in the first round. 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:03.359 I would have gave these two guys a shot. I 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:05.040 think that would have been something where you could make 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:07.479 a splash in free agency, and you don't go out 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:09.880 there and spend fifty million dollars on a guy. You 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:11.440 go out there and sign until one year deal, so 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:13.840 kind of like you did Quinn and see how it 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:17.839 works for one year. I would love to have fully. 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:19.880 I would love to have him on this squad. But 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:22.200 when we were talking in our group text, I knew it. 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:24.760 He made a great point that I think he's gonna be. 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:26.800 I think he's gonna have a lot of suitors out there, 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:28.839 and I think his price is just gonna keep rising 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:31.640 and rising as people compete for his services. But I 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:33.120 would love to have him. I think he's a very 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:35.240 solid corner out there. He's a pro bowler, all pro 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:37.600 and he seems like a great leader. He was in Chicago. 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:39.680 So I would love to have him, Just not sure 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.440 he can. We can we can afford that man? So 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:45.040 so would you have paid the Tim Meal for Patrick 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:48.040 Peterson without a doubt, Without a doubt, I mean, you 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:52.120 wouldn't have did that movie? Oh easy? Let me hear why, 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:55.760 Let me hear why? I dude? And it's one one 0:05:56.600 --> 0:06:00.400 Because Dak Prescott got signed and you start looking at 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:03.640 how many people are making big money under this cap. 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:05.560 You aren't going to be able to go out here 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:09.400 and spend ten million dollars, especially on an older player. 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:13.200 What you're trying to do, You're not going to Nieman Marcus. 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:15.960 You're you're trying not to be at five below like 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:18.640 you were last year's shop, because five below was definitely 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:21.039 five below. You're trying to figure out, how can I 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:23.920 get here to TJ Max? And Patrick Peterson is not 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:29.279 a TJ Max guy. Patrick Peterson, so so we could Hey, baby, 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:32.440 I didn't spend many a dollar TJ Max. Baby, I 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:36.040 like TJ Max. But so so you're trying. This is 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:38.640 where the cowboys are the first week or free agency. 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:41.520 You shopping at the nice big box store. They can't 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:43.760 do that, so we try. We gotta go over here 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:47.119 to the shopping mall, to the shopping center, and this 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:49.920 is where the cowboys are going to be. If Kyle 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:54.279 Fuller somehow can land in that spot, then maybe the 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:57.400 cowboys can do something. But Patrick Peterson was not going 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:59.840 to be a guy they were gonna be able to 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:03.560 get the TJ Max Church Church Church. Do you remember 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:06.440 maybe a few months ago my man knew he was 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:08.880 throwing numbers out there for all the Smith talking about 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:11.640 three years, talking about nine million dollars a year, you know, 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:14.360 and now you're talking about you can't get Patrick Peterson 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:17.160 for ten and you you're looking at all that Smith. 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:19.160 They could have found a way to make it work 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:21.280 with Patrick Peterson. They could have got them on nor 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:23.560 strooms and they would have been fine. We know, we 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:25.800 know these teams know how to make stuff work with 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:30.800 cap the car caps imaginary. Where did I end up 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:33.520 with Aldon Smith? We were just talking about free agencies 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:36.000 two weeks ago with guys. I just know when you started. 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:39.080 I just know where you started. When did I finished? 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:43.960 I know where I mean. Listen, after you played like that, 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:46.680 of course you're gonna finish finished that way. But I'm saying, okay, 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:51.040 we go to play better than you. Okay, So so 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:53.240 there you go. Now now that you're here, now that 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:58.360 it's money paying time, I'm putting my check book away. 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:04.080 All talked, little talking. So I hadn't changed my mind. 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:06.040 You you know, as Bill Parcels used to say when 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:08.800 he coached the Cowboys, I reserved the right to change 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:12.320 my mind. I have changed my mind. It is time 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:15.440 to go. It plus you got a new defensive scheme. 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:17.360 So at this time we didn't think Mike Nolan was 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:19.320 gonna get fired. We think the Cowboys be six and 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:21.280 ten and everything would blow up and the hot Boys 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:24.400 and be cold Boys. But it happened, so Alder Smith 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:27.360 got to go Danny all right, Well, Patrick Peters, I 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:31.040 know I'm not telling that Patrick Peters. So I'm not 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.760 telling you that Patrick Peterson is not a player that 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:36.040 could have helped the Cowboys. I'm just telling you, by 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:38.559 the way the Cowboys has spent their money and with 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:41.839 this Dak Prescott deal, he was going to be too 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:44.559 much for them. They're still trying to now go to 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:47.400 TJ Max to get them Nikes, but you're not trying 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:49.800 to get them nikes at that price tag that you 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:53.120 gotta get at the higher store. That's all I'm saying. Okay, 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:57.600 this is where you're at the now, Well Kyle Fuller 0:08:57.640 --> 0:08:59.960 get there. I don't think Kyle Fuller will get into 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:03.120 the TJ Max category for the Cowboys, so I'd like 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:05.000 to see the player here. I don't know if they 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:08.439 can work out something creative. There's so many teams that 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:11.679 have cap issues that maybe maybe the Cowboys can get 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:14.960 lucky enough to get the player, but they definitely weren't 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:17.640 going to get Patrick Peterson, whose agent was smart enough 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:20.600 to say, hey, let's strike as soon as free agency hits. 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:23.120 Don't wait because the longer you wait, the money drives up. 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:26.960 Cow Fuller's getting more money than Patrick Peterson on the market. 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:30.880 I agree he should. I agree. That's why I don't like. 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:32.920 I said, I like the player, but I don't think 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:35.120 they can afford the player. They're going to try to 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:37.760 see if the player's price comes down. This is what 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:40.320 the game they're playing right now as an organization, and 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:44.400 I don't think that it will. I think the problem 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:48.040 is we're over here shopping at TJ. Max Man when 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:49.880 we need to be giving a little bit of Macy's 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:52.120 or dealer's love. I think that's what we need to 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:54.679 be going towards. We're not at the north Ship level yet, 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:56.719 we're not at the neeble markets, but we can get 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:58.719 some some may see some dealers in there. We can 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:02.200 get some deals like that in there. Yeah, something something, 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:04.640 because we're bringing in nothing but you know, no disrespect, 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:08.679 but we're bringing in guys that you know, backup, guys, 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:15.120 back up and why and why are you doing that? Okay, 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:16.640 and why are you doing that? You don't have enough 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:20.520 money to go to Macy's. Yeah, that's true, you clearly 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:23.040 and you don't have enough money. This was going to 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:25.480 be in church. You talked about it when it first 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:28.080 you hit it. Yeah, oh yeah. Moving on from Dak, 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:30.160 this was what the cost was going to be. The 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:32.600 Patriots can spend all this money because they've got all 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:35.280 this money under the cap. The Cowboys don't have it. 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:39.000 When you look at who they're paying Dak Prescott, Zekiel Elliott, 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:43.840 Zach Martin, Tyrnn Smith, Lord, you've got big contracts. So 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:46.720 this is why you going to TJ max. Your budget 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:52.000 is limited. Okay, what's that? What's Dax's cap hit this year? 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:55.920 Twenty It was it twenty two, twenty two. Come, so 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:57.880 you got a twenty two million dollars cap hit and 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:00.880 you're talking about because Dack signed the deal. That's why 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:03.560 we can't go go go shop at Norse rooms. That 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:06.559 I think that's that was a great decision for them, 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:08.680 and they actually saved them some bread to go out 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:12.640 there and make some moves. We would looking at we 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:16.199 were looking at thirty, we were looking at thirty seven. Okay, 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:19.559 and you're right, Danny, But at the same time, you 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:24.000 still don't have all this this thought process that the 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:26.200 Cowboys and the press conference I was at was trying 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:28.200 to tell you, hey, we got enough pie to go 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:30.920 out here and build a competitive defense and team around 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:34.160 Dak Prescott. That that did not include them jumping out 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:37.560 the first week of free agency. I think they're still 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:39.880 going to make moves, but you're not going to see 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:43.199 first week free agency dollars where you're sitting here singing that, 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:46.400 hey we got Patrick Peterson on one year, ten million 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:49.000 dollars deal. They're not doing that. I just feel like 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:51.840 that was cheap. I feel I feel like the ten 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:54.480 I feel like ten millis for one on the player, 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:58.160 like that is cheap. Oh but but clearly they didn't 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:01.680 so that you know, so that that's the that's that's 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:03.840 the reality you have to live in, is that they 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:06.560 didn't feel like that was what they needed. Now and 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:08.480 this is something I don't know. This would be great 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:11.199 if we could have a conversation, what does dan Quinn 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:14.480 want in the quarter? Does dan Quinn want what Patrick 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:17.839 Peterson brings? Clearly Mike Zimmer does, But that there in 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:21.880 lies another question there um and seeing where they get 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:23.920 to here in week two, and I think, if I'm 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:27.320 a Cowboy fan, come off this whole premise and dog 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:28.960 on it. They're not doing anything. I want them to 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:32.679 do something. Here. Just understand where you gotta go shopping, baby, Okay, 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:34.760 we're not going to the We're not going to the 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:36.599 store you want to go to. We gotta break you 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:38.640 on down. You can get good deals to TJ Max. 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:40.360 And that's where the cowboys are letting you know. This 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.960 is where they've been shopping. They ain't changing, baby. They 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:44.840 got the credit card to the TJ Max. Now they 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:46.439 got a credit card. And this is where you go 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:50.200 church church. When the last time you've been to TJ Max? Uh? 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:52.040 You know I was over there yesterday give some some 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:56.439 kids supplies, you know, supplies for the I was nt 0:12:57.000 --> 0:13:00.280 Max get I had. I had a little card getting 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:03.120 it in I was. I was shopping. I had a 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:07.839 little receipt list from TJ Max. Even nowhere it is 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:11.160 my man, man, I tell you well, my friends like y'all. Man, 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:15.760 I'm telling you baby, look shot shot con made sure 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:18.640 you never had to go down to TJ Mat shout 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:22.760 out by the way, man shout out dot com page baby, 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:25.440 So you didn't have to do that anymore. I'm happy 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:30.559 for you. You're checking out players. Laughs. On Dallas Cowboys 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:34.080 dot com. We were brought to you by hotels dot com. 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:36.720 Danny McCray Perry Church. I'm knew, he shrugs, all right, 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:39.880 McCray Church played for the Cowboys safety position. I'm just 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:42.319 the old Cowboys reporter. Let's talk about a couple of 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:45.120 guys at the Cowboys did make some moves on the 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:48.680 free agency. They retake Jordan Lewis. Jordan Lewis the slot corner, 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:50.920 three year, sixteen point five million dollars eight and a 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:55.160 half million UM guaranteed, played in sixty one of sixty 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:58.800 six possible games, thirteen stars in twenty twenty. It's basically 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:02.160 the Anthony Brown. I'll start with you, mccraig. You're good 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:05.440 with this. You're good with this. Listen, I'm good with it. 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:07.920 It's a little confusing. Um. It makes me a little 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:10.400 nervous for you guys in that certain pick because I'm like, 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:13.000 now they got they got three guys out there. Uh. 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.920 I see Jordan Lewis as being a better slot corner 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:21.360 than Anthony Brown, so maybe they'll pump bump him outside 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:23.720 and make him compete with whoever they ended up drafting. 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.680 But you know, I've been saying this all along. I 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:30.000 think that the defensive coordinator really set these guys back, 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:34.280 because last two years ago, as we were watching Jordan Lewis, 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:36.680 I thought that he was prepared to be one of 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:38.760 the best slot corners in the league. He you see 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:40.680 his instincts, you can see his quickness, you can see 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:42.960 him making players on the ball, and then all that 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:45.240 just kind of left last year. So I think with 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:49.600 a new new coaching staff, new new scheme, new techniques, 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:52.320 and getting back to the basics, I think he'll he'll 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:56.120 show that he's worth what they paid him this year. Yeah, 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:58.920 this this move right here from me, it was a headscratcher. 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:02.520 It was a headscratcher because, like you said, they basically 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:06.480 got two nickel corners. They're paying two nickel corners top 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:08.920 nickel not top nickel money, but good nickel money. I mean, 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:11.800 you got Anthony Brown and Jordan Lewis, who are both 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:15.440 prototypical Nickels as far as body, stature, quicks, all that stuff. 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:19.000 They're the same player. And we've seen Anthony Brown transition 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:21.240 from the nickel to the outside corner with not that 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:23.960 great success. So if you're dual, if you're paying both 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:26.080 of those guys and they play the same position, I 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:28.160 don't see one of those guys going out to the outside. 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:30.120 I just don't see it. They don't have the body type. 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:32.040 I'm not saying they're not good enough to do it, 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:34.160 but they just don't have the physical body type to 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:36.280 go out there and compete with the taller corner or 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:38.480 the taller receivers like the AJ Greens of the World's 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:40.520 and all that stuff. So I see them both being 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:42.400 the same type of player. So I for you to 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:45.120 have both guys getting paid that much money in the 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:48.320 same position, that's a head scratcher to me. Nothing against 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:50.240 Jordan Lewis because, like McCrae said, I think he was 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:52.320 going to be one of the most prototypical nickels, and 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:55.160 he was a ball magnet the year before last, in 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:58.040 twenty nineteen, he was a ball magnet. This year he 0:15:58.080 --> 0:15:59.480 took a kind of a dip, But a lot of 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:01.320 that people are saying is due to the Mike Nolan 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:02.840 system and a lot of these guys didn't know what 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:04.920 they were doing out there, so hopefully he can get 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:07.720 back to that ball magnet type of play. But like 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:09.600 I said, it was a head scratcher because you already 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.080 got that guy Anthony Brown, and they have the same 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:14.560 similar skill set. I thought we could have used those 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:17.520 dollars somewhere else, maybe gotten a K one short on 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:20.080 the defensive line or something like that, but we ended 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:21.840 up going with George Lewis, which I found it as 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:24.160 a head scratcher. And hopefully we still go after Certain, 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:26.040 but if we, I mean, if we don't, we still 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:28.080 got those three guys sitting there, and I just I 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:31.320 just don't see that as being a solid three corner, 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:33.400 you know, cornerback group. You know, I seek we have 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:34.760 a great or not a great, but we have a 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:38.120 developing outside guy in Diggs. We have two good nickel 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:41.520 corners and Brown and Lewis, but we still don't have 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:43.760 that outside piece. And if you bring in Certain, that's 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:46.960 just a lot of money in that secondary room for 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:48.840 not a lot of proven players. And you know, it 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:52.240 was a head scratcher to me. All Right, this is good. 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:55.040 I like the conversation and I love the conversation where 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:56.880 this is going. So let me kind of play Devil's 0:16:56.880 --> 0:17:00.400 advocate and then you guys can shoot it down. Anthony 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:02.640 Brown is on a three year deal, so this will 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:06.240 be year two of the three year deal. So that 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:08.520 third year you may decide you want to move on 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:11.960 from Brown, and then you've got Lewis. Than by signing Lewis, 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:14.040 you kind of give yourself all right, we've got two 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:16.720 guys here, they're placeholders. We got three corners. If you 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:19.880 draft another guy, Let's say it's Sir Tanner Farley at 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:24.359 ten and who knows, maybe you could somehow magically find 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:27.560 Kyle Fuller looking real good at the TJ Maxisle. You 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.159 could possibly get him and then have the whole different 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:34.080 looking type of cornerback big. But right now, just here 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:36.320 we are, you know, just a couple of days after 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:39.800 Saint Patrick's Day. Isn't it almost like an insurance policy? Says, 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:42.160 see an insurance policy. They say, hey, look, we can 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:45.879 get George Lewis on an Anthony Brown deal, which looks 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:48.920 better for us, and we'll kind of figure to Anthony 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:50.879 Brown deal out later, but we can still if we 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:53.440 want to add to this dB room. But just a 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:55.480 free agency right now. And we look at how the 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:58.000 Cowboys have operated. George Lewis is a guy, you know, 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:00.600 and going back to what you said, Danny Echoes what 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:04.560 Stephen Jones was saying at that press conference for Dak Prescott. 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:08.360 He said, we have players here that Dan Quinn can 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:11.119 work with. There's talent to work with. He clearly feels 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:15.520 that George Lewis was a guy who underperformed under Mike Nolan, who, 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:18.440 in their own kind way didn't say this. Dude didn't 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:23.040 know what he was doing. If Richard Sherman still out there, sorry, Church, Yes, 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:25.840 you're gonna go ahead. Bro. Is Richard Sherman still out 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:28.000 there as a free agent, because I know he played 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:30.520 under Dan Quinn and you're looking for a veteran and 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:33.080 you're looking for something on the TJ. Maxwell, he might 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:36.200 be in that price range as he's looking for places 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:39.200 to go. So, you know, I wouldn't throw that out 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:41.960 there because, like I said, you know, defensive coordinators are 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:45.760 always looking for leaders who were in their previous in 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:48.960 their previous scheme that could make things happen. So be 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:51.479 on the lookout for Richard Sherman and to talk to him. 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:54.960 Heating up coming to the Cowboys and look and Lewis, 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:57.120 I would agree. I would agree with your point about, 0:18:57.160 --> 0:18:59.879 you know, having a placeholder and having guys for the future, 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:02.440 because you know, after guaranteed money is up with a Brown, 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:04.879 I see, unless he has, you know, a spectacular season, 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:06.680 they're probably gonna move on from him, and then you 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:09.080 can insert jun George Lewis right there, and I would 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:11.640 agree with that. If we had the luxury of having 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:13.640 a great front seven, Like if we had a great 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:15.399 front seven already and we were just like, you know what, 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:17.679 let's add some depth for future reference and all that 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:20.040 other stuff, I would definitely agree with you. But we 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:23.399