WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Starling Thomas V Brings Experience, Competitive Fire To Cardinals Cornerback Room

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<v Speaker 1>Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles on ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>You know football season is near when Jag is openly

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<v Speaker 5>talking about adding more what to Cardinals camp. What we'll

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<v Speaker 5>get to that. You know football is near, Ron Wolfley,

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<v Speaker 5>When Trey McBride and Nick Ross are barking at each

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<v Speaker 5>other out on the backfields, when every other Cardinals young

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<v Speaker 5>guy looks like he needs nner the World's Strongest Man contest.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's magnus ver Marvinson. At this point, you

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<v Speaker 5>know football is near.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait for it.

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<v Speaker 5>When Aaron Rodgers finally decides to show up for something

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<v Speaker 5>more than the Pat McAfee show, Well we're waiting, but

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<v Speaker 5>never fear. The original Thursday Night Football is here, fifty

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<v Speaker 5>two weeks a year, Tonight, featuring one of our favorites,

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<v Speaker 5>the precocious, the talented, the affable, Starling Thomas the Fifth.

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<v Speaker 5>Paul Calvic here, Ron Wolfy there on the Big Red Rage,

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<v Speaker 5>presented by and tan Ford and Gilbert We are santan Ford.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Paul, you bring up Starling Thomas the Fifth,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, and this guy was really a surprise last year.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I'm sure it wasn't a surprise to star

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<v Speaker 1>how well he played, but for me, at least as

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<v Speaker 1>the analyst watching him play out there and watching how

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<v Speaker 1>effectively he assimilated into the secondary. I gotta tell you, man,

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<v Speaker 1>Star Thomas is a player.

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<v Speaker 5>And look, Wolf we're gonna ask him about that Week

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<v Speaker 5>three starting assignment against Oh, I don't know, the Detroit

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<v Speaker 5>Lions team that had caught him a year earlier. Oh

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<v Speaker 5>how good did that feel? Because we know I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know if he knows this, but coaches told us that

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<v Speaker 5>Lions coaches were pointing to Starling Thomas pregame and saying, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>that was a regret mistake. We let that guy hit

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<v Speaker 5>the street. Less than twenty four hours later, he was

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<v Speaker 5>an Arizona Cardinal. The dude ran a four to eight

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<v Speaker 5>at his pro day. So we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 5>Starling Thomas. We're going to talk to Starling Thomas all

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<v Speaker 5>about this Cardinals, what he's seen so far, where this

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<v Speaker 5>defense can go. And you're talking about OTA's here wolf

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<v Speaker 5>where you know what? Look the eyeball test so far,

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of guys are passing it, including Darius Robinson.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you not ask d rob what his weight was

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<v Speaker 5>earlier this week? What did you find out?

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<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, Paully, I did. I looked

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<v Speaker 1>him dead in the eye and I said, Darius, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta tell me what's your weight at right now? And

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<v Speaker 1>are you where you want to be? And he said

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and ninety pounds. Oh, Danny, he said yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul I was like, wait a minute, are you telling

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<v Speaker 1>me you can still actually go out you can play

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<v Speaker 1>a seven technique. You could play the wide nine on

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<v Speaker 1>the edge. You could actually go out there at two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred ninety pounds and play the wine nine. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>telling me you could do that, Darius? He said, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and ninety pound edge.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen. If that does happen, look out, baby, that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a good thing.

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<v Speaker 5>We like to call it eleven card pickup. Nick rawlis

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<v Speaker 5>getting crazy with all eleven guys. Where are they going

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<v Speaker 5>to be? Where are they coming from? How is he

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<v Speaker 5>going to deploy them? Zavion Collins will talk a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit later on this edition of The Big Red Rage

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<v Speaker 5>about how he can be over the nose, he can

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<v Speaker 5>be deep center field. So a little bit of everything

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<v Speaker 5>makes them really unpredictable. On defense, what's interesting is we

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<v Speaker 5>haven't had a whole bunch of time to talk about

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<v Speaker 5>the offense this offseason because the Cardinals, you know, the

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<v Speaker 5>new and improved defense, the extreme makeover. Trey McBride finally

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<v Speaker 5>had a chance to speak up and be after the

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<v Speaker 5>offense this week, and here's what he had to say

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<v Speaker 5>about building that foundation in OTAs.

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<v Speaker 6>This is a you know, the foundation of how you

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<v Speaker 6>start the season, you get the timing, you get the

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<v Speaker 6>offensive lineman, you know, working on these blocks together, combination blocks,

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<v Speaker 6>you get the timing with Kyler and just being out

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<v Speaker 6>there and seeing the defense and running routes again and

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<v Speaker 6>catching the ball from Kyler everything. It just kind of

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<v Speaker 6>get that gelback, get that you know, flow everything. But

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<v Speaker 6>I'm excited to see where this offense can go.

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<v Speaker 5>There you go, Trey McBride, your Pro Bowl tight end,

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<v Speaker 5>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Jonathan Gannon this week will talking about how he wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to see improvement on offense with quote efficiency. Yeah, care

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<v Speaker 5>to translate that in your opinion? What do you think

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<v Speaker 5>the head coach means by better efficiency on offense?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? For me, Pauly, it's more consistency. That's what he's

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<v Speaker 1>really looking for, to go out and perform well in

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<v Speaker 1>a much more consistent basis. I think that's on all

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<v Speaker 1>phases of offensive football. But also too, when you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about efficiency, you're talking about Okay, Kyler Murray and Marvin

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<v Speaker 1>Harrison Junior and how many times when they throw the

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<v Speaker 1>ball on the nine route, on the fade, on a

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<v Speaker 1>deep throw down the field, how many times does Kyler

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<v Speaker 1>put that ball on the money, giving Marvin Harrison Junior

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to actually go up and make a play,

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<v Speaker 1>even if it's contested, go up and make a play

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<v Speaker 1>down the field. That to me, they need to do

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot more efficiently going forward. But to me

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<v Speaker 1>they go overall too. He's talking about consistency and how

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<v Speaker 1>they play.

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<v Speaker 5>And we'll take a deep a little bit later in

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<v Speaker 5>this edition of The Big Red Rage presented by Santan

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<v Speaker 5>Ford in Gilbert on the whole dynamic of broken plays

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<v Speaker 5>and now with the Kyler Murray at quarterback and the

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<v Speaker 5>ninety nine score on athleticism that can benefit the Cardinals.

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<v Speaker 5>All you know is talking to Jacoby Brissett in this

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<v Speaker 5>studio earlier this week Wolf. He was talking about Drew Petsing,

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<v Speaker 5>who was the quarterbacks coach twenty twenty two for Cleveland

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<v Speaker 5>when Jacoby Brissett started eleven games or drew in the

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<v Speaker 5>Cleveland Browns. He just talked about one of the great

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<v Speaker 5>aspects of DREWF. Petsing as an offensive coordinator is he'll

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<v Speaker 5>run any play at any time and it's not about

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<v Speaker 5>him and his play sheet. It's about the players. And

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<v Speaker 5>you know what, You know this better than anyone ten

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<v Speaker 5>years in the NFL, ego is a real thing, not

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<v Speaker 5>only with players but with coaches, and so if Drew

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<v Speaker 5>Petsing is willing to adapt and put guys in the

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<v Speaker 5>best position to make plays based on the talent he has. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>what does that mean year three in the system? What

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<v Speaker 5>does it mean year three going into camp? Interesting? Because

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<v Speaker 5>woll if we want you to tran from football ease

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<v Speaker 5>to English, from coach speak to English. Here's what Jonathan

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<v Speaker 5>Gannon said he's been about changing with this year's off

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<v Speaker 5>season workouts.

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<v Speaker 6>I wanted more friction in off season so training camp really,

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<v Speaker 6>so we're just going to schedule a little bit different way.

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<v Speaker 1>More friction, he said, more friction training camp really? Yes, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So to me, PAULI, more friction is more contact. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that. You know, did you really need a

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<v Speaker 1>ten year veteran in the NFL to actually translate that, Paulie,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. I think he's talking about more physicality,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, and he's talking about the pads going on,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's talking about training camp and that that friction

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<v Speaker 1>is going to turn into intensity. The only thing I

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<v Speaker 1>would add to that is coach are you going to

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<v Speaker 1>change your policy if it gets too contested and there's

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<v Speaker 1>too much friction that is out on the field and

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<v Speaker 1>somebody says, what are you doing jigging me in the eye. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go ahead and hammer you for that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what are you going to do when that happens?

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<v Speaker 5>If you've been scoring at home? Correct me if I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 5>There's been one fight that have got players kicked out

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<v Speaker 5>each of the first two training camps under Jonathan Gannon.

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<v Speaker 5>There were two players who went at in year one.

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<v Speaker 5>There were two players who went at in year two.

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<v Speaker 5>Both had the walk of shame, had to have the

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<v Speaker 5>long walk, the entire one hundred yards down shame. It

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<v Speaker 5>is when you're kicked out of camp, when you're kicked

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<v Speaker 5>out of practice.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to call it the walk of shame.

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<v Speaker 5>You already feel shame at that point. Well, this is.

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<v Speaker 1>Where you know what poly Seriously, you know how much

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<v Speaker 1>I love JG and how much in line.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, if this got you in trouble with don't say it.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't say it still, Paul, it is it is okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I won't say okay, but you know how I feel

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<v Speaker 1>about it, and so does JG.

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<v Speaker 5>And here's why I asked the question off the top,

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<v Speaker 5>and I know you thought it was a rhetorical question.

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<v Speaker 5>Why am I asking him means more physicality? Are we

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<v Speaker 5>sure it means more physicality, because in this day and

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<v Speaker 5>age where starters hardly play in the month of August,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe it just means more compete. Maybe it just means

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<v Speaker 5>more one on ones, not necessarily rooting in a two

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<v Speaker 5>and here's a four arm shiver to your neck. No,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe it just means, Okay, we're gonna get more contested

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<v Speaker 5>practices one oh yeah against ones.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that, honestly, that could be the case. But

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<v Speaker 1>once again, Paul, if you're talking about that, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about competition and ramping up competition, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>think puts the blood on the boil? That's exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>it puts. Competition. When you're all jacked up, fired up,

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<v Speaker 1>and suddenly you think you've been wrong, you you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of you're playing so hard in the game of football,

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of lose your mind. Friction can be competitive,

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt about it. If that's what he's talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's physicality, and I think it is competition

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<v Speaker 1>as well. But you put those two things together, and man,

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<v Speaker 1>look out.

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<v Speaker 5>See I already think as a default setting going into

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<v Speaker 5>this camp this year, it's going to be more competitive

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<v Speaker 5>than ever. You know why because they are going to

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<v Speaker 5>be legitimate NFL players who don't make the final fifty three.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, Paul, each of the last two years. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>come on, you sort of knew the final fifty three

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<v Speaker 5>save maybe one two three spots. Now you need two

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<v Speaker 5>hands to count how many spots will legitimately open. There's

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<v Speaker 5>going to be a really good defensive lineman, a really

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<v Speaker 5>good corner at least who don't make this final fifty three.

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<v Speaker 1>No doubt about it, PAULI in right now the OTAs.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on right now with the OTAs, Man, this

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<v Speaker 1>is where it begins. It really is. If he's talking

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<v Speaker 1>about friction and really talking about that friction, that competitiveness

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<v Speaker 1>in training camp. Of course, it starts in the OTAs

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Rookies and newcomers. This is an important time

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<v Speaker 1>of year, Paul. For rookies and newcomers. They got to

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<v Speaker 1>learn the skit, the schemes, they got to learn the

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<v Speaker 1>system right here. They have to prepare themselves so that

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<v Speaker 1>when they go to training camp. They know the offense.

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<v Speaker 1>They can play fast, they can go out there and

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<v Speaker 1>hammer people and lower the plow and hit the gas.

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<v Speaker 1>Veterans getting used to new coaches, the dynamic like we

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<v Speaker 1>have in the defensive line room. By way of example,

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<v Speaker 1>that is so important for veterans and newcomers to this

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<v Speaker 1>team and rookies that training camp. You're one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 1>when you're going into training camp, and the only way

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<v Speaker 1>to be one hundred percent doing that is the OTAs.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, Greg Derge told us this week Will Johnson round

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<v Speaker 5>two rookie looks really really good, just like he looked

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<v Speaker 5>at Michigan. Hey, join the berg Ganga Dallas Monday Night Football.

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<v Speaker 5>Starling Thomas is next as we talk to the corner

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<v Speaker 5>on the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert.

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<v Speaker 3>Yash on the left side of the end zone and

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<v Speaker 3>it is incomplete. Starling Thomas had good coverage.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one on one on the outside and that is

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<v Speaker 1>excellent coverage by Starling Thomas fires.

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<v Speaker 3>Right sideline Thomas knocks it down. Good play by Thomas

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<v Speaker 3>who is on Dobbs that time.

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<v Speaker 1>Excellent coverage right there by Starling Thomas.

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<v Speaker 4>Deep ball near side and incomplete.

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<v Speaker 3>What a job by star Thomas in cover John Gibson

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<v Speaker 3>at the twenty yard line. He turned around to defend

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<v Speaker 3>the ball and broke up the pass.

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<v Speaker 1>It is just so heads off by Thomas. This young

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<v Speaker 1>guy is developing and has been.

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<v Speaker 4>All season long.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, here's a fun fact for you. Which NFL player

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<v Speaker 5>has the most starts among all NFL players who entered

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<v Speaker 5>as rookie free agents since twenty twenty three? How about

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<v Speaker 5>the guy who grew up going to do Carlos Dansby

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<v Speaker 5>football camps in Birmingham, Alabama, where the star also stands

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<v Speaker 5>for star ur Starling. Thomas is our guest and the

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<v Speaker 5>Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We

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<v Speaker 5>are santan Ford Starling. How we doing, man?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm doing great man. Happy to be here man.

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<v Speaker 5>We had John last season. And among the other fun

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<v Speaker 5>facts we learned Starling is how many generations? How many generations?

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<v Speaker 1>Back?

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<v Speaker 5>Does that go? The name itself?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm the fifth, so go four generations? Man? That is okay,

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<v Speaker 7>I give me a six one day.

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<v Speaker 5>All right. So here we are, year three, okay, and

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<v Speaker 5>and everyone talks about, all right, the jump from year

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<v Speaker 5>one to year two. We wait a minute, what about

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<v Speaker 5>a jump from year two to year three? How are

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<v Speaker 5>you feeling? How is it tracking so far?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm feeling great.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 7>The games there is slowing down day by day. I'm

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<v Speaker 7>learning the defense more of the ins and outs of it,

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<v Speaker 7>and I'm just having fun with the game. Just seeing

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<v Speaker 7>the progress that I made from like you said, year two,

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<v Speaker 7>year three, Man, I'm so excited for this season.

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<v Speaker 5>We had Jalen Thompson in the studio recently. He's just

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<v Speaker 5>talking about you know what when you know it? As

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<v Speaker 5>JG says, are you at that point now with this defense?

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<v Speaker 7>I definitely think that I'm at that point right now.

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<v Speaker 7>And I feel like the coaches have that trusted me in.

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<v Speaker 7>My team has have that trusted me that I know

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<v Speaker 7>know it and they feel good when I'm out there.

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<v Speaker 5>You do anything unconventional, you know in training methods this offseason?

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<v Speaker 5>What are you doing like hot yoga?

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<v Speaker 7>You know, the pilates, you know, I started I started

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<v Speaker 7>davving into the pilates and the yoga man, But I

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<v Speaker 7>have become a big fan of goda. A lot of

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<v Speaker 7>people may not know about that, but I do not.

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<v Speaker 7>So let me explain. Goda is like reconstructing your body

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<v Speaker 7>to move as a baby moves.

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<v Speaker 5>Really, yes, and how does one go about doing that?

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<v Speaker 7>You do a lot of work this on your toes

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<v Speaker 7>and working on bowls as they call him. It's called boweing,

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<v Speaker 7>bowing into the hips and to your corners.

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<v Speaker 5>So and what does that do for you out in

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<v Speaker 5>the field? Have you noticed the difference?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, I feel way more explosive. I feel like I

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<v Speaker 7>get out of my cuts way bro, because all I'm

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<v Speaker 7>staying on my toes more and not being as flat footed.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, every workout that you do now is always

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<v Speaker 7>flat footed. And but go to like reconstructs as and

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<v Speaker 7>you are on your toes more.

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<v Speaker 5>You learn something. Even an old guy like me learn

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<v Speaker 5>something every day that's outstanding. Starling Thomas is our guest

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<v Speaker 5>here on the Big Red Rage, presented by Santan forty

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<v Speaker 5>and Gilbert. Do you still hang around Buddha.

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<v Speaker 7>Man, Yeah, it's my guy. Like as I next right

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<v Speaker 7>next to each other, families know each other now, man,

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<v Speaker 7>it's like my best friend right now.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean not everyone gets invited to Buddha Baker's house

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<v Speaker 5>for Thanksgiving dinner? Right, So, what do you think if

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<v Speaker 5>the young guys came up to you because you're no

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<v Speaker 5>longer the youngest helping young guys, right, I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 5>got to be a little bit different, just that vibe

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<v Speaker 5>right there, right.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, because you're so used to being the young guy

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<v Speaker 7>hang around Buddha and JT all the time, and being

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<v Speaker 7>a young guy to that group now is like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>you gotta step into a bigger role, Like you're not

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<v Speaker 7>the young guy anymore. You're You're one of the vets now.

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<v Speaker 7>So I've been excited and I've just been embracing it. Honestly.

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<v Speaker 5>I hear all of the other dbs talk about how

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<v Speaker 5>when it comes to the meeting rooms, they want to

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<v Speaker 5>sit next to Buddha and JT. It's like they're the

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<v Speaker 5>cool kids in class. What do you guys learn through osmosis?

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<v Speaker 5>What do you think you've learned the most from those two.

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<v Speaker 7>Just being able to watch film, understand concepts, and just

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<v Speaker 7>being a pro send right next to Boodo, you can

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<v Speaker 7>see how his notes are, you can ask him questions

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<v Speaker 7>and he thinks as a coach things, you know, he's

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<v Speaker 7>able to go out there and explain what everybody does.

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<v Speaker 7>So just being around him, just finding out how the

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<v Speaker 7>defense works, makes you play fast by knowing where everybody

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<v Speaker 7>everyone is.

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<v Speaker 5>And then when you have the head coach who's area

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<v Speaker 5>of expertise is cornerback, what's the luck to play for

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<v Speaker 5>Johnathan Gannet Because if there is one position group that

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<v Speaker 5>he knows cold, it's your room.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Is he more demanding because of that? Because of just

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<v Speaker 5>his background?

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<v Speaker 7>I feel like he is. He's on the corners super hard.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, and as a corner in the NFL, you

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<v Speaker 7>have to be able to withstand the pressure. So he

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<v Speaker 7>puts pressures on us any different techniques. So he's on

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<v Speaker 7>us pretty hard. But everybody in that room, we all

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<v Speaker 7>embraced that fact and that's why we played corner and

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<v Speaker 7>that's why the Cardinals have us.

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<v Speaker 5>So twenty two starts after you an undrafted rookie free agent,

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<v Speaker 5>what did you know about yourself, Starling Thomas that the

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<v Speaker 5>NFL found out once you entered the league.

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<v Speaker 7>I just knew that I belonged here, regardless of draft status,

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<v Speaker 7>regardless of what people may think or whatever. I knew

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<v Speaker 7>that I belong Like you said, you wouldn't have twenty

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<v Speaker 7>two starts in two years without being belonging here. So

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<v Speaker 7>just you know, just proving myself right and everybody else

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<v Speaker 7>that believed in me right.

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<v Speaker 5>Honestly, how good did it feel? Come on, now we're

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<v Speaker 5>in the trust tree? Okay, the next season? How good

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<v Speaker 5>did it feel Week three last year and you're a

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<v Speaker 5>starter against the team that cut you good to Detroit Lions.

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<v Speaker 7>Man, it felt amazing. Man. It was a lot of emotions.

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<v Speaker 7>But I was so happy to be out there, man,

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<v Speaker 7>And even the guys over there on their team, Man,

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<v Speaker 7>they was happy to see me, man, And it was

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<v Speaker 7>just it was a surreal moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 7>But I went out there and just played played all

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<v Speaker 7>knew that I belonged there, and you know, made them

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<v Speaker 7>wish that I was still over there.

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<v Speaker 5>For everyone who missed your appearance in the Big Red

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<v Speaker 5>Rage last year. Are there similarities between Dan Campbell and

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<v Speaker 5>Jonathan Gannett, especially when it comes to the energy.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, both both people are hot energy guys and they

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<v Speaker 7>make you want to play for them. Like, I haven't

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<v Speaker 7>been around coaches like that in a minute, So I'm

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<v Speaker 7>glad that I was able to play on them, both

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<v Speaker 7>of them, But JG and Dan Campbelly are very hot

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<v Speaker 7>energy and you know they make you want to put

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<v Speaker 7>your neck out there for them.

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<v Speaker 5>I look at this cornerback room, even minus Sean Murphy bunting,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, done for the year unfortunately with injury. Still

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<v Speaker 5>I look at this at as the most competitive room.

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<v Speaker 5>You got eleven corners in there. What's it been like

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<v Speaker 5>out on the field here during Ota?

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<v Speaker 7>Some it's been competitive. All of us are just trying to,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, push each other, And I feel like that's

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<v Speaker 7>the best thing about it. When you have a competitive room,

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<v Speaker 7>everybody's play is going to go go up. So that's

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<v Speaker 7>been the best thing about it. And everybody in the

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<v Speaker 7>room has been pushing one another's no you know, mad

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<v Speaker 7>about this or that. Everybody just want to see each

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<v Speaker 7>other do good.

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<v Speaker 5>Where are you better? How are you better versus your

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<v Speaker 5>rookie year here? Now in year three as a player.

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<v Speaker 7>I am more comfortable. I know what to do. I'm

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<v Speaker 7>comfortable in myself, my teammates are comfortable in me, and

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<v Speaker 7>now I just I just go out there and play

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<v Speaker 7>my game. I know my game, I know what I'm

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<v Speaker 7>good at you know, I know the things that I

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<v Speaker 7>work on, and you know, I'm just ready to go

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<v Speaker 7>out there and continue to make plays like I do.

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<v Speaker 5>We had Paris Johnson junior in right, he was he

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<v Speaker 5>was your draft class, and we talked about all the

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<v Speaker 5>elite pass rushers he faced his rookie year, Aaron Donald,

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<v Speaker 5>TJ Watt, Miles Garrett, Micah Parsons. You can kind of

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<v Speaker 5>have a rollodex now. Yeah, dudes, You've gone against right,

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<v Speaker 5>Justin Jefferson, Tyreek Hill. Tell me about some of the

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<v Speaker 5>battles you've had one on one the last couple of years.

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<v Speaker 7>I have some grip, good battles. DK Metcalf, Tara mcclaurin.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll say Brandon I has been was good, like he said,

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<v Speaker 7>Justin Jefferson, who else, DeVante Adams, Garrett Wilson, yeah, Jaylen Wattle,

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<v Speaker 7>Tyreek Hill, of course? Uh? DJ Moore? Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So what does that do for your confidence?

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<v Speaker 7>Now here in your three I'm just knowing, like you,

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<v Speaker 7>I went against the best guys in the league already,

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<v Speaker 7>and I held my own weekend week out. So I'm

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<v Speaker 7>going into this year not wor everybody think I'm just

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<v Speaker 7>going into this year knowing that I've already played against

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<v Speaker 7>the best guys, and I know what, I'm one of

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<v Speaker 7>the best guys too.

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<v Speaker 5>This defense invested heavily in the front seven in the offseason.

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<v Speaker 5>What does that do for a defensive secondary?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, we love that. Everybody has miles. We can feel

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<v Speaker 7>the difference of the passwords right now in OTA's man,

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<v Speaker 7>so better pastors come, work picks.

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<v Speaker 5>You can feel it already.

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<v Speaker 7>We can feel it already.

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<v Speaker 5>We so explain that to us football one on one.

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<v Speaker 7>Ah, man, you know we can just feel that. You

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<v Speaker 7>feel that the rushers are getting there. Everything's getting there,

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<v Speaker 7>like we feel good about it. We love it. We

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<v Speaker 7>watch it on film. Everybody's working, man. We love the

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<v Speaker 7>how the front seven is looking and.

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<v Speaker 5>When you can hit and harass and pressure quarterbacks more picks.

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<v Speaker 5>Even the great Patrick Mahomes. That's how the Eagles won

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<v Speaker 5>the Super Bowl? Right, Yeah? Who stands out so far?

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<v Speaker 5>Give me who's who's Maybe I don't know, a young guy,

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<v Speaker 5>a newcomer, players, no players, Is there anyone who's caught

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<v Speaker 5>your eye out there so far? Either side of the ball,

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<v Speaker 5>any position group?

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<v Speaker 7>This young guy on a defensive and uh, they say

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<v Speaker 7>Wats has been pretty good, and den Zale has been

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<v Speaker 7>pretty good. Max has been playing good. Will like all

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<v Speaker 7>the guys who brought in, Like, everybody's been playing good.

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<v Speaker 7>Cody's been playing good. Even Bug we call him Cante.

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<v Speaker 7>This is his name, so seventh rounder. Yeah, he's been

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<v Speaker 7>playing good. Man, everybody's been playing good.

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<v Speaker 5>What was your action when you saw the muscle mass

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<v Speaker 5>that Marvin Harrison Junior put on lining up?

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<v Speaker 4>Agains me?

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<v Speaker 7>Like, yo, man, did you did you grow a few?

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<v Speaker 5>Greg Dorsch was in here, He's like, he talked about,

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<v Speaker 5>you know what, now corners are going to face going

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<v Speaker 5>against Marvin Harrison Junior, and he paused, he said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>good luck with that. What what what is going to

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<v Speaker 5>make Marvin a challenge? Especially with the added strength? What

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<v Speaker 5>does that do for him? And when he's battling corners

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<v Speaker 5>one on one?

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<v Speaker 7>I feel like it's just give him more strength at

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<v Speaker 7>the top of his wraps. Marvin's already pretty good route runner,

0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:11.919
<v Speaker 7>he got great hands, good speed. I just felt like

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<v Speaker 7>he just added another layer on how good he's going

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<v Speaker 7>to be in his league. Honestly, he just keep adding

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<v Speaker 7>on to it. So I'm excited to see what he does.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm glad I get to go against him every day

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<v Speaker 7>and practice because it makes me better myself.

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<v Speaker 5>So, yeah, are there do you guys help each other out? Like,

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<v Speaker 5>okay after a rep or after a practice or maybe periodically,

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<v Speaker 5>do you tell each other Okay, I tried this, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe you do that?

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<v Speaker 8>Do you?

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<v Speaker 5>You guys saw Yeah, paradogs like that.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, definitely, because I was always good to see what

0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:39.240
<v Speaker 7>a receiver is seeing from a dB and what are

0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:41.919
<v Speaker 7>they're thinking and vice versas so, and we're teammates at

0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:43.480
<v Speaker 7>the end of the day, and we all want to

0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:44.960
<v Speaker 7>see each other do good and we all want to

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<v Speaker 7>win games. So if that's gonna be a way for

0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:50.680
<v Speaker 7>me to help him win games and me win, that's

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<v Speaker 7>a plus for us.

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<v Speaker 5>Starling Thomas the Fifth is our guest here in the

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<v Speaker 5>Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert Jalen

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<v Speaker 5>Thompson confirmed for us. So, when you guys are watching

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<v Speaker 5>film the last couple of months, so last season, you

0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:04.439
<v Speaker 5>started seeing your schemes being replicated by other teams.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that was crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>That's Good's a heck of a compliment, isn't it is?

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<v Speaker 7>Though? It is? It is. It was like, bro, are

0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:13.560
<v Speaker 7>they running the same thing? And we were running but

0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:17.480
<v Speaker 7>they didn't run it right there? Run it like us?

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<v Speaker 5>So, I mean, tell us about Nick Ross. What does

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<v Speaker 5>it like to play for such an innovative defensive coordinator?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh? Man, I love it. So many different schemes, so

0:23:26.040 --> 0:23:28.680
<v Speaker 7>many different techniques. He's always making a quarterback in the

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<v Speaker 7>offensive coordinator rethink you know, have them on an edge.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 7>I love Nick. He's He's also a high energy guy.

0:23:34.960 --> 0:23:37.640
<v Speaker 7>Who do you want to play for? He talks a lot,

0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:40.760
<v Speaker 7>you know, man, so we always want to back up

0:23:40.800 --> 0:23:43.560
<v Speaker 7>our decordinator. Man, So I love playing from Nick.

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<v Speaker 5>Trey McBride admitted he goes right after Nick Ross if

0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:47.200
<v Speaker 5>he ever makes a catch.

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<v Speaker 7>He does every time Trey cass theball, he looks right

0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:50.000
<v Speaker 7>at Nick.

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<v Speaker 5>And then Jacoby Brissett was in there and he's like,

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<v Speaker 5>oh yeah, I'm a trash talker. And you know, nobody

0:23:55.000 --> 0:23:57.640
<v Speaker 5>even has to start it with me. I'll started Jacoby.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the thing.

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<v Speaker 7>About this scene right now. Everybody's just so competitive.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 7>We love it and it's bringing the best out of everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good.

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<v Speaker 5>You know. During camp, Chris Stapleton, Country Music Superstar is

0:24:11.640 --> 0:24:13.720
<v Speaker 5>gonna be across the street. You're gonna take Buddha over

0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:15.040
<v Speaker 5>to a Chris Stapleton concert.

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<v Speaker 7>I have to is a must. I'm drag him out.

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<v Speaker 5>Have you helped him develop a little bit of an

0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:22.359
<v Speaker 5>affinity for country music?

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<v Speaker 7>He has grown? He has grown. He has grown. When

0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:29.439
<v Speaker 7>he goes golfing, he listens to it. Now, have you

0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:32.679
<v Speaker 7>taken up golfing? He's taking me, He's taking me?

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<v Speaker 5>All right, that's great, darling.

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<v Speaker 7>We really enjoyed it, have you, man?

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<v Speaker 5>We look forward to it. I mean twenty two starts

0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:44.000
<v Speaker 5>in two years. Think about that. Think about the depth

0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:47.639
<v Speaker 5>in the cornerback room. Think about what a loaded defensive

0:24:47.640 --> 0:24:50.359
<v Speaker 5>front is going to do for the secondary. We can't wait.

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<v Speaker 5>We continue. It is a big red rage presented by

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<v Speaker 5>santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford.

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<v Speaker 4>Play action of boot to the right. Murray looking downfield

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<v Speaker 4>now loves it deep heresigned Harrison count it looks funny.

0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:10.600
<v Speaker 4>Ten the ten. Parrison dies to the end zone.

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:15.879
<v Speaker 3>He's in Touchdowwn step to Murray looking left now in trouble,

0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:18.720
<v Speaker 3>spins left now steps up running left.

0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:21.280
<v Speaker 4>Murray breaks a tackle looking end zone, firing.

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<v Speaker 3>Left side, a sliding tuch for a touchdown and it's Higgins.

0:25:25.720 --> 0:25:29.720
<v Speaker 3>Kyler Murray does it again for Murray Magic.

0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Kyler Murray staying alive with it looked like he was

0:25:33.800 --> 0:25:35.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna be sacked.

0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:38.399
<v Speaker 3>Kyler Murray, who takes the shotgun step backs up, looks

0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:41.000
<v Speaker 3>left everybody covered. Murray spins to his left, now running

0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:43.159
<v Speaker 3>being chased by Young at the five yard line, and

0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:46.240
<v Speaker 3>Murray hoists it deep in near side. Harrison Clottet had

0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:49.200
<v Speaker 3>a fifty yard line and he's tackled there. An incredible

0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:52.200
<v Speaker 3>play by Kyler Murray to keep that play alive.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how many human beings make that play that.

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<v Speaker 1>Kyler Murray just played the mighty Kyler Murray.

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<v Speaker 5>No doubt when he's at his best. The Cardinals are

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<v Speaker 5>at their best, and they're one of the best offenses

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<v Speaker 5>in the NFL. It is the Big Red Rage presented

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<v Speaker 5>by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford, Paul

0:26:10.440 --> 0:26:13.159
<v Speaker 5>calvec Ron Wolfley. We're going to get into Kyler in

0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:16.240
<v Speaker 5>the offense, but special thanks to Starling Thomas once again

0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 5>his off season training addition where he's replicating baby steps

0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:24.320
<v Speaker 5>in not so many words. I think that went way

0:26:24.359 --> 0:26:27.160
<v Speaker 5>above my head. He says it's working though for him

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<v Speaker 5>out on the field, So we'll take his word for

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<v Speaker 5>it on that one. How about the fact that he confirmed,

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<v Speaker 5>just like Jalen Thompson, the teams did steal the Cardinals

0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:37.520
<v Speaker 5>defensive schemes at the end of last year, except as

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:39.640
<v Speaker 5>Starling told us, yeah, they really weren't doing it right.

0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:42.800
<v Speaker 5>They weren't doing it for the caliber Nick Rowlis wanted

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<v Speaker 5>it in the way he designed it, Okay, and then

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<v Speaker 5>Wolf he can already tell even out during OTAs that

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<v Speaker 5>the pass rush has been elevated, that the Cardinals front seven,

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:56.639
<v Speaker 5>all the investments are going to pay off. They're already

0:26:56.960 --> 0:26:59.560
<v Speaker 5>paying off. He can already tell the way they're going

0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:01.719
<v Speaker 5>to be able to affect the quarterback this year. I mean,

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:04.480
<v Speaker 5>you talk about tick talk. We all look forward to that.

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<v Speaker 1>No doubt about it, Paul. I mean, think about it.

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:09.879
<v Speaker 1>As a quarterback. You love the dynamic where you know

0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 1>your offensive protection is really really good, and it's not

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:15.720
<v Speaker 1>just the offensive line, it's everybody. The receivers are going

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:18.119
<v Speaker 1>to run their right route, the offensive line is going

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:20.360
<v Speaker 1>to protect there, your running back is going to pick

0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 1>up litz Is. If you can actually have that kind

0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:25.439
<v Speaker 1>of confidence in your protection. It makes a quarterback that

0:27:25.600 --> 0:27:29.240
<v Speaker 1>much better when that protection breaks down, when he can't

0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:33.480
<v Speaker 1>count on being protected. Oh man, that's a big advantage

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<v Speaker 1>to the defense.

0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:37.080
<v Speaker 5>And then there are a handful of quarterbacks that when

0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 5>the production breaks down, it doesn't matter because they have

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:42.880
<v Speaker 5>the athleticism to get out and make a defense pay.

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:46.359
<v Speaker 5>Kyler Murray is most definitely one of those quarterbacks. Talking

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:49.040
<v Speaker 5>to Jacoby Brissett QB two this week, Wolf, he said,

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<v Speaker 5>you know the difference between me and Kyler is I

0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:53.800
<v Speaker 5>have a six yard run and for Kyler that's a

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 5>touchdown run. He said, that's just one of the many differences.

0:27:56.840 --> 0:28:00.720
<v Speaker 5>He had some self deprecating humor on that one. But seriously, though,

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<v Speaker 5>Kyler Murray this offseason. In fact, back in April, Cardinals

0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 5>Corner Arizona Sports in April, talking to Tyler Drake, he

0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 5>broke down, Okay, what happens when plays break down and

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<v Speaker 5>how I can produce more.

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<v Speaker 8>I think where we could be better as a unit

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:19.320
<v Speaker 8>in myself as extending plays in scrambled drill, because I mean,

0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:21.080
<v Speaker 8>you go, look, you look at Josh, you look at Lamar,

0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:23.359
<v Speaker 8>like a lot of things that they do the sexy

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:26.160
<v Speaker 8>plays come from outside of the pocket and when things

0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:28.400
<v Speaker 8>break down. That's something that me is you and Drew

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:30.880
<v Speaker 8>have talked about, is guys have to confinue to move,

0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:33.280
<v Speaker 8>Guys have to continue stay active when play breaks down,

0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:35.680
<v Speaker 8>because you know that's gonna happen with a guy like myself,

0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:38.760
<v Speaker 8>you know, being quarterbacks. So I think that's a big area.

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:42.040
<v Speaker 8>Aphysis is make it things happen whatever plays breakdown.

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 5>You know, he mentioned Josh Allen Lamar Jackson more than once.

0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 5>It's almost like he was sitting around watching the AFC

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 5>playoffs and sort of had an epiphany, said, you know

0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 5>what I can do that Maybe I need to get

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 5>back to doing that. Because Wolf, if you go back

0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 5>to the first half of twenty twenty one when he

0:28:57.400 --> 0:29:00.240
<v Speaker 5>was a legitimate MVP candidate, he was doing a lot

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:01.080
<v Speaker 5>that wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>He Yeah, No, he was Paully, no doubt about that.

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:06.560
<v Speaker 1>And this is the great conversation that we have had

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 1>over the years with Kyler Murray. This, Polly is a

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:13.120
<v Speaker 1>great example. It's a great soundcut because to me, this

0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:15.640
<v Speaker 1>is what I want to see from Kyler Murray. This

0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:18.360
<v Speaker 1>is when I want Kyler Murray to run the ball.

0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:22.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't want a lot of called runs for Kyler Murray,

0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Polly every now and then, is it a bad idea

0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:28.880
<v Speaker 1>to go ahead and have a quarterback sweep or go

0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:32.200
<v Speaker 1>ahead with the you know, the read option. Of course

0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:34.520
<v Speaker 1>you can do all of these things. But Paul to

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:37.960
<v Speaker 1>me once again, you want the defense to know, oh, yeah,

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:40.440
<v Speaker 1>we will run him. You don't think we're gonna run him.

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:43.800
<v Speaker 1>We will. You better pay attention to that. But man,

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:47.080
<v Speaker 1>more than anything, when it breaks down, when he has

0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 1>got to go out there and create, that's when I

0:29:50.080 --> 0:29:52.800
<v Speaker 1>want him to use his legs, not just to run,

0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:56.160
<v Speaker 1>not just to always run the ball, but to extend

0:29:56.200 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the play like we have seen him do famously over

0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:02.640
<v Speaker 1>the first seven years of his career.

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<v Speaker 5>No doubt. And look, especially in the red zone. To

0:30:06.240 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 5>your point, you know, okay, a design run here, they're

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:12.440
<v Speaker 5>absolutely warranted, really effective when he's trying to beat someone

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:13.560
<v Speaker 5>to the pylon.

0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:14.440
<v Speaker 1>I get it.

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:16.600
<v Speaker 5>But even Kyler Murray said over the years he'd much

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:19.560
<v Speaker 5>rather have it be organic that when he sees open

0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:22.040
<v Speaker 5>green or he sees a defense with their backs to him,

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 5>and then he takes off and we all know how

0:30:24.040 --> 0:30:26.920
<v Speaker 5>backbreaking and demoralizing it is when it's third and fourteen

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:31.280
<v Speaker 5>to the quarterback runs for fifteen. So there's that and

0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 5>then there's another aspect of how this offense is evolving,

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 5>and that's something that Trey McBride talked about this week, saying,

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:40.240
<v Speaker 5>you know what, more sauce please.

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:43.240
<v Speaker 6>It's not as fundamental, it's not as basic. They're adding

0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 6>a lot of motions and a lot of you know,

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 6>sauce is what I call it, just putting a little

0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 6>you know, extra flavor on the same plays that we have,

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 6>maybe motion guys to it, running different guys in different things,

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 6>So trying to stick to our main you know, concepts

0:30:55.840 --> 0:30:57.760
<v Speaker 6>that we have, but dressing them up in different ways,

0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:00.560
<v Speaker 6>whether you know, one guy's running a motion or some

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:02.160
<v Speaker 6>guys doing a route. But it's all kind of the

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 6>same concepts, just different ways to get to it. So, yeah,

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:07.240
<v Speaker 6>this offense can be very complex. And the way that

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 6>Drew and these guys have changed throughout the offseason and

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 6>continue to build it, it's been a lot of fun

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:13.960
<v Speaker 6>and I'm excited to see us in action area.

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:16.520
<v Speaker 5>You know, Drew Petsing likes to use the word multiple.

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 5>We can do multiple things out of the same personnel group.

0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 5>Multiple things out of the same formation. I tend to think,

0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:26.360
<v Speaker 5>just because they're in the Cardinals division, Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVeigh,

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 5>how many times maybe are they running a similar play,

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 5>but it's not a totally different personnel or a different formation.

0:31:31.800 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 5>At least that's what defensive players have said over the years,

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 5>and it can make it really hard to predict, really

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 5>hard to decipher what's coming when. And so now that

0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 5>some of these guys have another year under their belt

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 5>of this system, it would make sense, wouldn't it that

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:49.600
<v Speaker 5>the football IQ goes up and now the offensive cornera

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 5>can dial up a little bit more.

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:53.800
<v Speaker 1>No doubt about it, Belly, right now, this is the

0:31:53.840 --> 0:31:57.120
<v Speaker 1>next step for Kyler Murray and this offense. It's year

0:31:57.240 --> 0:32:01.680
<v Speaker 1>three and Drew Petsing's offense now they have definitely got

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 1>to step it up. Pauli, There's no doubt about that.

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:07.720
<v Speaker 1>I think we're going to see that Sauce, as Trey

0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 1>McBride is talking about right now. But for me, the

0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 1>broken plays once again, Bali, they got to be able

0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 1>to capitalize on that first and foremost. I think the

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:22.960
<v Speaker 1>chemistry with Marvin Harrison Junior that has got to be

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 1>number one, Paulli number two. It's improving in these broken

0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 1>plays for me. But yeah, the sauce is moving around

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:36.400
<v Speaker 1>this offensive front and getting some type of motion where

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 1>defenses are constantly making checks on what you're doing. I

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 1>know why Drew Petsing didn't make it complicated. I know

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 1>why he did last year, and that was because he

0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:49.960
<v Speaker 1>wanted Marvin Harrison Junior and Kyler Murray to be really,

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 1>really base and try to build some type of foundation

0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:57.120
<v Speaker 1>for chemistry. That's what he wanted more than anything else. Paully.

0:32:57.560 --> 0:33:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Now they can build on that foundation and from last year.

0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:03.520
<v Speaker 1>But to me, that's why he didn't do a lot

0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 1>of movement. He didn't want it to be complicated for

0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Kyler or for Marvin Harrison Junior. Now it's time to

0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 1>take that next step together.

0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 5>And the one play that both Kyler and Drew Petsen

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:19.280
<v Speaker 5>have cited over and over his evidence was week to

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:22.960
<v Speaker 5>touchdown number two against the Rams, the sixty yarder, Oh yeah,

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:26.920
<v Speaker 5>where Kyler bought time and pointed and there was Marvin

0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 5>Harrison Junior going to a vacated space in the defense.

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:33.959
<v Speaker 5>It was basically backyard football and then Kyler boom hits

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:36.360
<v Speaker 5>him in stride and then Marvin Harrison does the rest

0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 5>and he houses it all the way to the pylon.

0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 5>That's the kind of thing that you know, Kyler has

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:45.240
<v Speaker 5>talked about, and I think rightfully so receivers cannot give

0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:48.560
<v Speaker 5>up on a play, keep running because you never know

0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:50.920
<v Speaker 5>your quarterback is going to extend a play for a

0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 5>stupid amount of time. I mean, yes, the receivers have

0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:55.320
<v Speaker 5>to stay active, don't they.

0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, they have to, you know. And that really

0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:00.480
<v Speaker 1>is that when you hear him say the scram drill

0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:03.720
<v Speaker 1>when you're Kyler talking about it as well, and some

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 1>other cuts that we have played throughout the years. When

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:09.359
<v Speaker 1>he's talking about that, they do that over and over

0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:13.240
<v Speaker 1>and over again in practice. The scramble drill is real

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:15.760
<v Speaker 1>and it's alive, and it's something that's got to become

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:18.920
<v Speaker 1>a significant part of what the Arizona Cardinals are going

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 1>to do because it is the wild card. And one

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:24.399
<v Speaker 1>other thing too, Bali. While we're talking about all of this,

0:34:24.960 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 1>but man, and you already touched on it a little bit,

0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:33.880
<v Speaker 1>but when a play breaks down because the opposing defense

0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:37.239
<v Speaker 1>is getting pressure and getting after Kyler Murray and he

0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:40.920
<v Speaker 1>breaks out of that pressure, and you've got man covered

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:44.880
<v Speaker 1>down the field and suddenly he converts a third and

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:49.840
<v Speaker 1>thirteen like Russell Wilson used to do when he was

0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:55.360
<v Speaker 1>up in Seattle. It just breaks the defensive coordinator's heart.

0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 1>It sucks the life out of a defense who has

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:03.439
<v Speaker 1>done every right on first down, everything right on second down,

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 1>got you into a third and thirteen, and suddenly that

0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:10.359
<v Speaker 1>quarterback converts with his legs. It is demoralizing, Paul.

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:14.320
<v Speaker 5>You can sense it, just the vibe, the body language,

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 5>the slump shoulders on the sideline. It really is demoralizing, deflating.

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 5>So we heard from Trey McBride there. We talked about

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:24.319
<v Speaker 5>Marvin Errison Junior. I want to know who's the third

0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:26.799
<v Speaker 5>receiving option in this offense. When we come back, I'm

0:35:26.800 --> 0:35:30.880
<v Speaker 5>gonna talk about position battles, where is it most competitive,

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:35.359
<v Speaker 5>Who exactly is the quarterback of the defense. We're gonna

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:37.120
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<v Speaker 5>This is the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford

0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:59.320
<v Speaker 5>in Gilbert.

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:03.560
<v Speaker 3>To Gino drops back, the pass gets hit, the ball

0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:07.880
<v Speaker 3>comes out, and it's recovered by Smith that the forty

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:10.160
<v Speaker 3>one Zaven Collins in the backfield.

0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 4>Boys, he having a day.

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:16.359
<v Speaker 9>I still do a lot of crazy stuff. I got'ta

0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:19.680
<v Speaker 9>line up in the hay gap and still drop Nick

0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 9>likes to stretch the limits of how hard can we

0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 9>make this?

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:28.240
<v Speaker 1>This drob Nick rawl is doing a great job disguising

0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:29.919
<v Speaker 1>what he's going to do.

0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:32.279
<v Speaker 9>They make it very simple for you know, guys to

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 9>be able to be in that defense, especially a bigger

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:36.680
<v Speaker 9>body guy that has to drop and what they ask

0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 9>of us. They're very cognizant of what they want us

0:36:39.120 --> 0:36:40.680
<v Speaker 9>to do and how they want us to do it.

0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:44.279
<v Speaker 5>Well, remember the win in Miami last year and I

0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:46.080
<v Speaker 5>think we all did a double take. Wait a minute,

0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:49.720
<v Speaker 5>is that Zabon Collins at nearly six five to seventy

0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:53.040
<v Speaker 5>something running straight down the middle of the field one

0:36:53.080 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 5>on one with Tyreek Hill And it was a definitive yes,

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:01.960
<v Speaker 5>as he confirm last season, right here actually on the

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:04.480
<v Speaker 5>Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. He

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:06.920
<v Speaker 5>was elaborating on that a little bit more this week

0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:10.719
<v Speaker 5>in meeting the media, And so when Starlin Thomas on

0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:13.480
<v Speaker 5>this episode confirms it, yes, other teams are replicating Nick

0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:16.480
<v Speaker 5>Rollis's schemes. I don't know if that's one of them,

0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 5>having you know, a guy who is the starting middle

0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:22.160
<v Speaker 5>linebackers now edge player actually covered the likes of a

0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:26.680
<v Speaker 5>Tyreek killed downfield. But yeah, sometimes it can get pretty

0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 5>dang innovative, can it not.

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's no doubt about it. Bully and what they

0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 1>have done with Zavan Collins lining them up in that

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:37.400
<v Speaker 1>A gap, Paul. A lot of the times they're playing

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:40.359
<v Speaker 1>Tampa too, and that's when you have two safeties high

0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:42.799
<v Speaker 1>and that Mike backer is running down the middle of

0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:45.319
<v Speaker 1>the field. But rarely are you ever going to put

0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:49.360
<v Speaker 1>that Mike backer in the A gap and drop him

0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:52.320
<v Speaker 1>into the middle of the field, hunting up the number

0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:56.440
<v Speaker 1>two receiver typically towards the strength of the formation that

0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:59.359
<v Speaker 1>is Tampa too. It's been around a long time, but man,

0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:01.560
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of different ways you can get to

0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:03.839
<v Speaker 1>Tampa to and execute.

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:05.920
<v Speaker 5>It, all right, let's talk about middle linebacker. It used

0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:09.480
<v Speaker 5>to be the position for Zamon Collins. For a few

0:38:09.560 --> 0:38:11.479
<v Speaker 5>days in the offseason, had a hot take that maybe

0:38:11.560 --> 0:38:14.320
<v Speaker 5>Zamon Collins was going back to mike backer. That's a

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:18.200
<v Speaker 5>definitive no. Thanks KLVC for wasting our time on that one.

0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 5>It is going to either be from what we can tell,

0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:24.640
<v Speaker 5>Michael Walker, a Keen Davis Gaither or the rookie Cody

0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:28.320
<v Speaker 5>Simon Wolf. How would you handicap thinks? How wide open

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:30.800
<v Speaker 5>is this battle to be the quarterback of the defense

0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:33.839
<v Speaker 5>now that team captain Kaizer White, from all appearances, will

0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:34.359
<v Speaker 5>not be back.

0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, Paully. I think a Keen Davis Gaither

0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:42.120
<v Speaker 1>is the guy that actually has the inside hand, so

0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:44.400
<v Speaker 1>to speak, on this. I think he's got the best

0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:48.560
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to be your starter. I will say that Cody

0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Simon is fascinating to me. He really is. I think

0:38:52.719 --> 0:38:56.359
<v Speaker 1>he's smart enough to actually do it. Now. I don't

0:38:56.360 --> 0:38:58.480
<v Speaker 1>think he's smart enough to actually go out and have

0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:02.319
<v Speaker 1>the green dot, but I do believe he's smart enough

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:05.759
<v Speaker 1>to actually line up and play inside linebacker, play the

0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 1>mike backer position in the National Football League. Now, man,

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:14.120
<v Speaker 1>that is a that is a tall, tall order right

0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:17.759
<v Speaker 1>there to actually fill because it's very difficult. You've got

0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 1>to know everything. You have got to understand what an

0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:24.359
<v Speaker 1>offense is doing, what schemes are doing. And the thing

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:28.560
<v Speaker 1>he lacks the most is the experience of playing in

0:39:28.600 --> 0:39:32.920
<v Speaker 1>an NFL box, not a college box, an NFL box.

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:36.480
<v Speaker 1>And that's the one reason why I pause and hesitate,

0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:40.440
<v Speaker 1>because I think Cody Simon has the physical abilities to

0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:43.120
<v Speaker 1>do that job and do it very very well, and

0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:47.200
<v Speaker 1>the mentality, but he just lacks the experience. And it's

0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:51.520
<v Speaker 1>the reason why I would say that Davis Gaither is

0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:52.919
<v Speaker 1>probably in the lead.

0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:55.640
<v Speaker 5>And what's really interesting, because we talked to him earlier

0:39:56.200 --> 0:39:59.440
<v Speaker 5>this week, is that he really had a mac Wilson

0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:03.960
<v Speaker 5>senior finish to twenty twenty four for the Cincinnati Bengals.

0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:06.880
<v Speaker 5>What mac Wilson senior did in December and January for

0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:09.560
<v Speaker 5>the Patriots, which got him paid by the Cardinals a

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:12.279
<v Speaker 5>keen Davis Gath almost replicated that. He went from a

0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:16.839
<v Speaker 5>special team's assassin special teams captain to a starting inside linebacker.

0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:19.440
<v Speaker 5>He had a thirteen tackle game at Pittsburgh. He had

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:22.480
<v Speaker 5>a twelve tackle game against Tennessee. He had another twelve

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:25.280
<v Speaker 5>tackle game in the rematch against Pittsburgh in the season.

0:40:25.400 --> 0:40:28.880
<v Speaker 5>I mean, he ended the year as a tackling machine.

0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:31.080
<v Speaker 5>And I think he put film out there Wolf you

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:34.280
<v Speaker 5>tell me where JG and MONTIOSIV were like, wait a minute,

0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:36.359
<v Speaker 5>maybe this guy is ready for more. Maybe this guy

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:38.240
<v Speaker 5>can wear the green dot and call our defense.

0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:42.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Paul, I mean he averaged nine point seven tackles

0:40:42.280 --> 0:40:46.560
<v Speaker 1>per game. You know, that's pretty dog on good right there. Again,

0:40:46.680 --> 0:40:49.600
<v Speaker 1>for a guy that came in under the auspices in

0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:52.759
<v Speaker 1>which he did, being a special teams player and then

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 1>getting the start over the last six games for the Bengals,

0:40:56.120 --> 0:40:59.359
<v Speaker 1>that really is a nice little sample size. Yet at

0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:02.279
<v Speaker 1>the same time, time, man, you gotta be careful. He's

0:41:02.280 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 1>going to have to come in here, I think, and

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 1>I think he's going to have to win that job.

0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:09.480
<v Speaker 1>I think that's going to be an open competition right there,

0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:10.600
<v Speaker 1>don't you, Paul.

0:41:10.560 --> 0:41:12.600
<v Speaker 5>I do you know? And he's the son of a coach,

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:16.399
<v Speaker 5>right as his father is an assistant at Virginia, And

0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:18.959
<v Speaker 5>he said sometimes he'll even get feedback on his phone

0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:22.319
<v Speaker 5>at halftime from his dad. So he has a high

0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:24.359
<v Speaker 5>football at QUB by all accounts, I want to ask

0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:26.799
<v Speaker 5>you real quick. We teased it wide receiver two and

0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:30.040
<v Speaker 5>three after Marvin Arson Junior, after training Bride at tight

0:41:30.160 --> 0:41:32.520
<v Speaker 5>end your top two targets. But wait a minute, isn't

0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:35.399
<v Speaker 5>the room for someone to establish themselves, especially as wide

0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:37.040
<v Speaker 5>receiver two on this roster?

0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, oh yeah, there's no doubt about it. I mean,

0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:44.279
<v Speaker 1>Greg Derch, I think once again is going to be

0:41:44.320 --> 0:41:47.680
<v Speaker 1>one of your starters in eleven personnel. I think Michael

0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Wilson is going to have the opportunity to go out

0:41:50.680 --> 0:41:53.799
<v Speaker 1>there and prove that he is not the guy. I

0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:56.120
<v Speaker 1>think he is going to be the guy because I

0:41:56.200 --> 0:41:59.000
<v Speaker 1>believe in Michael Wilson. I think he's going to continue

0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:02.880
<v Speaker 1>to take that next step. But yeah, there's some interesting

0:42:02.920 --> 0:42:05.600
<v Speaker 1>guys they have PAULI that are out there that could

0:42:05.600 --> 0:42:06.560
<v Speaker 1>make a run at him.

0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:10.280
<v Speaker 5>Even Zay Jones, who sort of had a pretty solid

0:42:10.320 --> 0:42:13.040
<v Speaker 5>finish in week seventeen and eighteen when he finally got

0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:16.360
<v Speaker 5>in rhythm, got some targets. He could be an intriguing

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:19.200
<v Speaker 5>Guy's had some huge seasons in the NFL. He told

0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:21.319
<v Speaker 5>us this week he feels really good. So there's that,

0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:24.840
<v Speaker 5>and then there's corner. I mean even minus Sean Murphy

0:42:24.880 --> 0:42:27.640
<v Speaker 5>Bunting done for the year with injury. I consider that

0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:30.160
<v Speaker 5>pretty wide open, including the rookie Will Johnson, who I

0:42:30.200 --> 0:42:33.239
<v Speaker 5>think is gonna be given every opportunity to be a

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 5>starting corner man.

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:37.960
<v Speaker 1>That's gonna be fascinating to watch. Are you really going

0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:41.239
<v Speaker 1>to take Will Johnson and stick him out there on

0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:44.319
<v Speaker 1>an island? Are you gonna do that? Week one? Are

0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:46.120
<v Speaker 1>you gonna do that? Are you gonna run him out there?

0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:49.920
<v Speaker 1>And he's gonna be the starter coming out of training camp? Yes,

0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:54.080
<v Speaker 1>is my answer to that. I think the kids got

0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 1>everything that he needs. And what I love about this

0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:02.040
<v Speaker 1>the vetting process with JG of course, and Manti asen

0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:05.439
<v Speaker 1>Fort and every kid they bring onto this roster right now.

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:08.040
<v Speaker 1>They have a great way of vetting this guy and

0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:11.200
<v Speaker 1>whether or not he's got the mentality, whether or not

0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:14.479
<v Speaker 1>he's got the intellect to actually come on and play

0:43:14.520 --> 0:43:18.359
<v Speaker 1>the position and do it well as a young guy man.

0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:21.880
<v Speaker 1>To me, they're really really high on Will Johnson in

0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:25.680
<v Speaker 1>regard to his brain and in regard to his physical gifts.

0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:28.319
<v Speaker 1>And because of that, I think, Paul, this is just

0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:31.439
<v Speaker 1>it's not even a hot take, is it. But Will

0:43:31.520 --> 0:43:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Johnson's your starter week one.

0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:37.400
<v Speaker 5>How many times Jonathan Gannon called him a quote perfect

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:40.160
<v Speaker 5>scheme fit. Yeah, Drew Standon told us on the Red

0:43:40.200 --> 0:43:43.600
<v Speaker 5>Sea Report, Wink Martindale, the defensive coordinator from Michigan runs

0:43:43.600 --> 0:43:47.720
<v Speaker 5>an NFL caliber defense, very complex, very complicated, very exotic

0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:50.400
<v Speaker 5>at times. If Will Johnson can master that defense in

0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:53.640
<v Speaker 5>one year, then he's equipped for the NFL. So I

0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:56.240
<v Speaker 5>thought that was really intriguing. And then if he truly

0:43:56.320 --> 0:43:59.680
<v Speaker 5>is an elite corner think about the fact that Patrick Sir,

0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:04.960
<v Speaker 5>Tam Sauce Gardner, Derek Stingley Junior, they have started every

0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:08.680
<v Speaker 5>single game of their NFL career. The moment they were drafted,

0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:12.120
<v Speaker 5>they were starters, not unlike Marvin Arrison Junior, not unlike

0:44:12.160 --> 0:44:14.560
<v Speaker 5>Paris Johnson Junior. I mean, if he's that dude, if

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:17.360
<v Speaker 5>he's that good, if he's a legitimate top fifteen player

0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:19.239
<v Speaker 5>in this draft, win healthy, and the only reason he

0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 5>fell is because of some erroneous claims about his knee,

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<v Speaker 5>then I agree with you. He easily could be cornerback

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<v Speaker 5>one when they break camp in August.

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<v Speaker 1>And Paul, that is a jammed room now cornerback, which

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<v Speaker 1>is amazing right now because it was a going into

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<v Speaker 1>last season. We thought it was a weakness. It didn't

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<v Speaker 1>turn out to be a weakness. Now it's a jam

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<v Speaker 1>pack room.

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<v Speaker 5>No doubt. Maximelon looked really good at the end of

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<v Speaker 5>last year. Starling Thomas our guest tonight. He started twenty

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<v Speaker 5>two games in two years, so it is going to

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<v Speaker 5>be highly competitive. Not to mention Garrett Williams, you're starting

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<v Speaker 5>nickel corner, one of the highest graded corners in the

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<v Speaker 5>entire league. Yeah, last season, ay be part of the

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