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Speaker 1: You know, Paul, you bring up Starling Thomas the Fifth,
Speaker 1: of course, and this guy was really a surprise last year.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sure it wasn't a surprise to star
Speaker 1: how well he played, but for me, at least as
Speaker 1: the analyst watching him play out there and watching how
Speaker 1: effectively he assimilated into the secondary. I gotta tell you, man,
Speaker 1: Star Thomas is a player.
Speaker 5: And look, Wolf we're gonna ask him about that Week
Speaker 5: three starting assignment against Oh, I don't know, the Detroit
Speaker 5: Lions team that had caught him a year earlier. Oh
Speaker 5: how good did that feel? Because we know I don't
Speaker 5: know if he knows this, but coaches told us that
Speaker 5: Lions coaches were pointing to Starling Thomas pregame and saying, yeah,
Speaker 5: that was a regret mistake. We let that guy hit
Speaker 5: the street. Less than twenty four hours later, he was
Speaker 5: an Arizona Cardinal. The dude ran a four to eight
Speaker 5: at his pro day. So we're going to talk about
Speaker 5: Starling Thomas. We're going to talk to Starling Thomas all
Speaker 5: about this Cardinals, what he's seen so far, where this
Speaker 5: defense can go. And you're talking about OTA's here wolf
Speaker 5: where you know what? Look the eyeball test so far,
Speaker 5: a lot of guys are passing it, including Darius Robinson.
Speaker 5: Did you not ask d rob what his weight was
Speaker 5: earlier this week? What did you find out?
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, Paully, I did. I looked
Speaker 1: him dead in the eye and I said, Darius, you
Speaker 1: gotta tell me what's your weight at right now? And
Speaker 1: are you where you want to be? And he said
Speaker 1: two hundred and ninety pounds. Oh, Danny, he said yes.
Speaker 1: Paul I was like, wait a minute, are you telling
Speaker 1: me you can still actually go out you can play
Speaker 1: a seven technique. You could play the wide nine on
Speaker 1: the edge. You could actually go out there at two
Speaker 1: hundred ninety pounds and play the wine nine. Are you
Speaker 1: telling me you could do that, Darius? He said, yes,
Speaker 1: two hundred and ninety pound edge.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: Listen. If that does happen, look out, baby, that's gonna
Speaker 1: be a good thing.
Speaker 5: We like to call it eleven card pickup. Nick rawlis
Speaker 5: getting crazy with all eleven guys. Where are they going
Speaker 5: to be? Where are they coming from? How is he
Speaker 5: going to deploy them? Zavion Collins will talk a little
Speaker 5: bit later on this edition of The Big Red Rage
Speaker 5: about how he can be over the nose, he can
Speaker 5: be deep center field. So a little bit of everything
Speaker 5: makes them really unpredictable. On defense, what's interesting is we
Speaker 5: haven't had a whole bunch of time to talk about
Speaker 5: the offense this offseason because the Cardinals, you know, the
Speaker 5: new and improved defense, the extreme makeover. Trey McBride finally
Speaker 5: had a chance to speak up and be after the
Speaker 5: offense this week, and here's what he had to say
Speaker 5: about building that foundation in OTAs.
Speaker 6: This is a you know, the foundation of how you
Speaker 6: start the season, you get the timing, you get the
Speaker 6: offensive lineman, you know, working on these blocks together, combination blocks,
Speaker 6: you get the timing with Kyler and just being out
Speaker 6: there and seeing the defense and running routes again and
Speaker 6: catching the ball from Kyler everything. It just kind of
Speaker 6: get that gelback, get that you know, flow everything. But
Speaker 6: I'm excited to see where this offense can go.
Speaker 5: There you go, Trey McBride, your Pro Bowl tight end,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Jonathan Gannon this week will talking about how he wanted
Speaker 5: to see improvement on offense with quote efficiency. Yeah, care
Speaker 5: to translate that in your opinion? What do you think
Speaker 5: the head coach means by better efficiency on offense?
Speaker 1: Yeah? For me, Pauly, it's more consistency. That's what he's
Speaker 1: really looking for, to go out and perform well in
Speaker 1: a much more consistent basis. I think that's on all
Speaker 1: phases of offensive football. But also too, when you're talking
Speaker 1: about efficiency, you're talking about Okay, Kyler Murray and Marvin
Speaker 1: Harrison Junior and how many times when they throw the
Speaker 1: ball on the nine route, on the fade, on a
Speaker 1: deep throw down the field, how many times does Kyler
Speaker 1: put that ball on the money, giving Marvin Harrison Junior
Speaker 1: an opportunity to actually go up and make a play,
Speaker 1: even if it's contested, go up and make a play
Speaker 1: down the field. That to me, they need to do
Speaker 1: that a lot more efficiently going forward. But to me
Speaker 1: they go overall too. He's talking about consistency and how
Speaker 1: they play.
Speaker 5: And we'll take a deep a little bit later in
Speaker 5: this edition of The Big Red Rage presented by Santan
Speaker 5: Ford in Gilbert on the whole dynamic of broken plays
Speaker 5: and now with the Kyler Murray at quarterback and the
Speaker 5: ninety nine score on athleticism that can benefit the Cardinals.
Speaker 5: All you know is talking to Jacoby Brissett in this
Speaker 5: studio earlier this week Wolf. He was talking about Drew Petsing,
Speaker 5: who was the quarterbacks coach twenty twenty two for Cleveland
Speaker 5: when Jacoby Brissett started eleven games or drew in the
Speaker 5: Cleveland Browns. He just talked about one of the great
Speaker 5: aspects of DREWF. Petsing as an offensive coordinator is he'll
Speaker 5: run any play at any time and it's not about
Speaker 5: him and his play sheet. It's about the players. And
Speaker 5: you know what, You know this better than anyone ten
Speaker 5: years in the NFL, ego is a real thing, not
Speaker 5: only with players but with coaches, and so if Drew
Speaker 5: Petsing is willing to adapt and put guys in the
Speaker 5: best position to make plays based on the talent he has. Okay,
Speaker 5: what does that mean year three in the system? What
Speaker 5: does it mean year three going into camp? Interesting? Because
Speaker 5: woll if we want you to tran from football ease
Speaker 5: to English, from coach speak to English. Here's what Jonathan
Speaker 5: Gannon said he's been about changing with this year's off
Speaker 5: season workouts.
Speaker 6: I wanted more friction in off season so training camp really,
Speaker 6: so we're just going to schedule a little bit different way.
Speaker 1: More friction, he said, more friction training camp really? Yes, Okay,
Speaker 1: So to me, PAULI, more friction is more contact. I
Speaker 1: don't think that. You know, did you really need a
Speaker 1: ten year veteran in the NFL to actually translate that, Paulie,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think he's talking about more physicality,
Speaker 1: of course, and he's talking about the pads going on,
Speaker 1: and he's talking about training camp and that that friction
Speaker 1: is going to turn into intensity. The only thing I
Speaker 1: would add to that is coach are you going to
Speaker 1: change your policy if it gets too contested and there's
Speaker 1: too much friction that is out on the field and
Speaker 1: somebody says, what are you doing jigging me in the eye. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm going to go ahead and hammer you for that.
Speaker 1: You know, what are you going to do when that happens?
Speaker 5: If you've been scoring at home? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 5: There's been one fight that have got players kicked out
Speaker 5: each of the first two training camps under Jonathan Gannon.
Speaker 5: There were two players who went at in year one.
Speaker 5: There were two players who went at in year two.
Speaker 5: Both had the walk of shame, had to have the
Speaker 5: long walk, the entire one hundred yards down shame. It
Speaker 5: is when you're kicked out of camp, when you're kicked
Speaker 5: out of practice.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to call it the walk of shame.
Speaker 5: You already feel shame at that point. Well, this is.
Speaker 1: Where you know what poly Seriously, you know how much
Speaker 1: I love JG and how much in line.
Speaker 5: Well, if this got you in trouble with don't say it.
Speaker 1: Don't say it still, Paul, it is it is okay.
Speaker 1: I won't say okay, but you know how I feel
Speaker 1: about it, and so does JG.
Speaker 5: And here's why I asked the question off the top,
Speaker 5: and I know you thought it was a rhetorical question.
Speaker 5: Why am I asking him means more physicality? Are we
Speaker 5: sure it means more physicality, because in this day and
Speaker 5: age where starters hardly play in the month of August,
Speaker 5: maybe it just means more compete. Maybe it just means
Speaker 5: more one on ones, not necessarily rooting in a two
Speaker 5: and here's a four arm shiver to your neck. No,
Speaker 5: maybe it just means, Okay, we're gonna get more contested
Speaker 5: practices one oh yeah against ones.
Speaker 1: I think that, honestly, that could be the case. But
Speaker 1: once again, Paul, if you're talking about that, if you're
Speaker 1: talking about competition and ramping up competition, what do you
Speaker 1: think puts the blood on the boil? That's exactly what
Speaker 1: it puts. Competition. When you're all jacked up, fired up,
Speaker 1: and suddenly you think you've been wrong, you you kind
Speaker 1: of you're playing so hard in the game of football,
Speaker 1: you kind of lose your mind. Friction can be competitive,
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. If that's what he's talking about,
Speaker 1: I think it's physicality, and I think it is competition
Speaker 1: as well. But you put those two things together, and man,
Speaker 1: look out.
Speaker 5: See I already think as a default setting going into
Speaker 5: this camp this year, it's going to be more competitive
Speaker 5: than ever. You know why because they are going to
Speaker 5: be legitimate NFL players who don't make the final fifty three.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Paul, each of the last two years. I mean,
Speaker 5: come on, you sort of knew the final fifty three
Speaker 5: save maybe one two three spots. Now you need two
Speaker 5: hands to count how many spots will legitimately open. There's
Speaker 5: going to be a really good defensive lineman, a really
Speaker 5: good corner at least who don't make this final fifty three.
Speaker 1: No doubt about it, PAULI in right now the OTAs.
Speaker 1: What's going on right now with the OTAs, Man, this
Speaker 1: is where it begins. It really is. If he's talking
Speaker 1: about friction and really talking about that friction, that competitiveness
Speaker 1: in training camp. Of course, it starts in the OTAs
Speaker 1: right now. Rookies and newcomers. This is an important time
Speaker 1: of year, Paul. For rookies and newcomers. They got to
Speaker 1: learn the skit, the schemes, they got to learn the
Speaker 1: system right here. They have to prepare themselves so that
Speaker 1: when they go to training camp. They know the offense.
Speaker 1: They can play fast, they can go out there and
Speaker 1: hammer people and lower the plow and hit the gas.
Speaker 1: Veterans getting used to new coaches, the dynamic like we
Speaker 1: have in the defensive line room. By way of example,
Speaker 1: that is so important for veterans and newcomers to this
Speaker 1: team and rookies that training camp. You're one hundred percent
Speaker 1: when you're going into training camp, and the only way
Speaker 1: to be one hundred percent doing that is the OTAs.
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Speaker 3: Yash on the left side of the end zone and
Speaker 3: it is incomplete. Starling Thomas had good coverage.
Speaker 1: It's one on one on the outside and that is
Speaker 1: excellent coverage by Starling Thomas fires.
Speaker 3: Right sideline Thomas knocks it down. Good play by Thomas
Speaker 3: who is on Dobbs that time.
Speaker 1: Excellent coverage right there by Starling Thomas.
Speaker 4: Deep ball near side and incomplete.
Speaker 3: What a job by star Thomas in cover John Gibson
Speaker 3: at the twenty yard line. He turned around to defend
Speaker 3: the ball and broke up the pass.
Speaker 1: It is just so heads off by Thomas. This young
Speaker 1: guy is developing and has been.
Speaker 4: All season long.
Speaker 5: Right, here's a fun fact for you. Which NFL player
Speaker 5: has the most starts among all NFL players who entered
Speaker 5: as rookie free agents since twenty twenty three? How about
Speaker 5: the guy who grew up going to do Carlos Dansby
Speaker 5: football camps in Birmingham, Alabama, where the star also stands
Speaker 5: for star ur Starling. Thomas is our guest and the
Speaker 5: Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We
Speaker 5: are santan Ford Starling. How we doing, man?
Speaker 7: I'm doing great man. Happy to be here man.
Speaker 5: We had John last season. And among the other fun
Speaker 5: facts we learned Starling is how many generations? How many generations?
Speaker 1: Back?
Speaker 5: Does that go? The name itself?
Speaker 7: I'm the fifth, so go four generations? Man? That is okay,
Speaker 7: I give me a six one day.
Speaker 5: All right. So here we are, year three, okay, and
Speaker 5: and everyone talks about, all right, the jump from year
Speaker 5: one to year two. We wait a minute, what about
Speaker 5: a jump from year two to year three? How are
Speaker 5: you feeling? How is it tracking so far?
Speaker 7: I'm feeling great.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 7: The games there is slowing down day by day. I'm
Speaker 7: learning the defense more of the ins and outs of it,
Speaker 7: and I'm just having fun with the game. Just seeing
Speaker 7: the progress that I made from like you said, year two,
Speaker 7: year three, Man, I'm so excited for this season.
Speaker 5: We had Jalen Thompson in the studio recently. He's just
Speaker 5: talking about you know what when you know it? As
Speaker 5: JG says, are you at that point now with this defense?
Speaker 7: I definitely think that I'm at that point right now.
Speaker 7: And I feel like the coaches have that trusted me in.
Speaker 7: My team has have that trusted me that I know
Speaker 7: know it and they feel good when I'm out there.
Speaker 5: You do anything unconventional, you know in training methods this offseason?
Speaker 5: What are you doing like hot yoga?
Speaker 7: You know, the pilates, you know, I started I started
Speaker 7: davving into the pilates and the yoga man, But I
Speaker 7: have become a big fan of goda. A lot of
Speaker 7: people may not know about that, but I do not.
Speaker 7: So let me explain. Goda is like reconstructing your body
Speaker 7: to move as a baby moves.
Speaker 5: Really, yes, and how does one go about doing that?
Speaker 7: You do a lot of work this on your toes
Speaker 7: and working on bowls as they call him. It's called boweing,
Speaker 7: bowing into the hips and to your corners.
Speaker 5: So and what does that do for you out in
Speaker 5: the field? Have you noticed the difference?
Speaker 7: Yes, I feel way more explosive. I feel like I
Speaker 7: get out of my cuts way bro, because all I'm
Speaker 7: staying on my toes more and not being as flat footed.
Speaker 7: You know, every workout that you do now is always
Speaker 7: flat footed. And but go to like reconstructs as and
Speaker 7: you are on your toes more.
Speaker 5: You learn something. Even an old guy like me learn
Speaker 5: something every day that's outstanding. Starling Thomas is our guest
Speaker 5: here on the Big Red Rage, presented by Santan forty
Speaker 5: and Gilbert. Do you still hang around Buddha.
Speaker 7: Man, Yeah, it's my guy. Like as I next right
Speaker 7: next to each other, families know each other now, man,
Speaker 7: it's like my best friend right now.
Speaker 5: I mean not everyone gets invited to Buddha Baker's house
Speaker 5: for Thanksgiving dinner? Right, So, what do you think if
Speaker 5: the young guys came up to you because you're no
Speaker 5: longer the youngest helping young guys, right, I mean, that's
Speaker 5: got to be a little bit different, just that vibe
Speaker 5: right there, right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, because you're so used to being the young guy
Speaker 7: hang around Buddha and JT all the time, and being
Speaker 7: a young guy to that group now is like, Okay,
Speaker 7: you gotta step into a bigger role, Like you're not
Speaker 7: the young guy anymore. You're You're one of the vets now.
Speaker 7: So I've been excited and I've just been embracing it. Honestly.
Speaker 5: I hear all of the other dbs talk about how
Speaker 5: when it comes to the meeting rooms, they want to
Speaker 5: sit next to Buddha and JT. It's like they're the
Speaker 5: cool kids in class. What do you guys learn through osmosis?
Speaker 5: What do you think you've learned the most from those two.
Speaker 7: Just being able to watch film, understand concepts, and just
Speaker 7: being a pro send right next to Boodo, you can
Speaker 7: see how his notes are, you can ask him questions
Speaker 7: and he thinks as a coach things, you know, he's
Speaker 7: able to go out there and explain what everybody does.
Speaker 7: So just being around him, just finding out how the
Speaker 7: defense works, makes you play fast by knowing where everybody
Speaker 7: everyone is.
Speaker 5: And then when you have the head coach who's area
Speaker 5: of expertise is cornerback, what's the luck to play for
Speaker 5: Johnathan Gannet Because if there is one position group that
Speaker 5: he knows cold, it's your room.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Is he more demanding because of that? Because of just
Speaker 5: his background?
Speaker 7: I feel like he is. He's on the corners super hard.
Speaker 7: I mean, and as a corner in the NFL, you
Speaker 7: have to be able to withstand the pressure. So he
Speaker 7: puts pressures on us any different techniques. So he's on
Speaker 7: us pretty hard. But everybody in that room, we all
Speaker 7: embraced that fact and that's why we played corner and
Speaker 7: that's why the Cardinals have us.
Speaker 5: So twenty two starts after you an undrafted rookie free agent,
Speaker 5: what did you know about yourself, Starling Thomas that the
Speaker 5: NFL found out once you entered the league.
Speaker 7: I just knew that I belonged here, regardless of draft status,
Speaker 7: regardless of what people may think or whatever. I knew
Speaker 7: that I belong Like you said, you wouldn't have twenty
Speaker 7: two starts in two years without being belonging here. So
Speaker 7: just you know, just proving myself right and everybody else
Speaker 7: that believed in me right.
Speaker 5: Honestly, how good did it feel? Come on, now we're
Speaker 5: in the trust tree? Okay, the next season? How good
Speaker 5: did it feel Week three last year and you're a
Speaker 5: starter against the team that cut you good to Detroit Lions.
Speaker 7: Man, it felt amazing. Man. It was a lot of emotions.
Speaker 7: But I was so happy to be out there, man,
Speaker 7: And even the guys over there on their team, Man,
Speaker 7: they was happy to see me, man, And it was
Speaker 7: just it was a surreal moment.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 7: But I went out there and just played played all
Speaker 7: knew that I belonged there, and you know, made them
Speaker 7: wish that I was still over there.
Speaker 5: For everyone who missed your appearance in the Big Red
Speaker 5: Rage last year. Are there similarities between Dan Campbell and
Speaker 5: Jonathan Gannett, especially when it comes to the energy.
Speaker 7: Yes, both both people are hot energy guys and they
Speaker 7: make you want to play for them. Like, I haven't
Speaker 7: been around coaches like that in a minute, So I'm
Speaker 7: glad that I was able to play on them, both
Speaker 7: of them, But JG and Dan Campbelly are very hot
Speaker 7: energy and you know they make you want to put
Speaker 7: your neck out there for them.
Speaker 5: I look at this cornerback room, even minus Sean Murphy bunting,
Speaker 5: you know, done for the year unfortunately with injury. Still
Speaker 5: I look at this at as the most competitive room.
Speaker 5: You got eleven corners in there. What's it been like
Speaker 5: out on the field here during Ota?
Speaker 7: Some it's been competitive. All of us are just trying to,
Speaker 7: you know, push each other, And I feel like that's
Speaker 7: the best thing about it. When you have a competitive room,
Speaker 7: everybody's play is going to go go up. So that's
Speaker 7: been the best thing about it. And everybody in the
Speaker 7: room has been pushing one another's no you know, mad
Speaker 7: about this or that. Everybody just want to see each
Speaker 7: other do good.
Speaker 5: Where are you better? How are you better versus your
Speaker 5: rookie year here? Now in year three as a player.
Speaker 7: I am more comfortable. I know what to do. I'm
Speaker 7: comfortable in myself, my teammates are comfortable in me, and
Speaker 7: now I just I just go out there and play
Speaker 7: my game. I know my game, I know what I'm
Speaker 7: good at you know, I know the things that I
Speaker 7: work on, and you know, I'm just ready to go
Speaker 7: out there and continue to make plays like I do.
Speaker 5: We had Paris Johnson junior in right, he was he
Speaker 5: was your draft class, and we talked about all the
Speaker 5: elite pass rushers he faced his rookie year, Aaron Donald,
Speaker 5: TJ Watt, Miles Garrett, Micah Parsons. You can kind of
Speaker 5: have a rollodex now. Yeah, dudes, You've gone against right,
Speaker 5: Justin Jefferson, Tyreek Hill. Tell me about some of the
Speaker 5: battles you've had one on one the last couple of years.
Speaker 7: I have some grip, good battles. DK Metcalf, Tara mcclaurin.
Speaker 7: I'll say Brandon I has been was good, like he said,
Speaker 7: Justin Jefferson, who else, DeVante Adams, Garrett Wilson, yeah, Jaylen Wattle,
Speaker 7: Tyreek Hill, of course? Uh? DJ Moore? Wow?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So what does that do for your confidence?
Speaker 7: Now here in your three I'm just knowing, like you,
Speaker 7: I went against the best guys in the league already,
Speaker 7: and I held my own weekend week out. So I'm
Speaker 7: going into this year not wor everybody think I'm just
Speaker 7: going into this year knowing that I've already played against
Speaker 7: the best guys, and I know what, I'm one of
Speaker 7: the best guys too.
Speaker 5: This defense invested heavily in the front seven in the offseason.
Speaker 5: What does that do for a defensive secondary?
Speaker 7: Oh, we love that. Everybody has miles. We can feel
Speaker 7: the difference of the passwords right now in OTA's man,
Speaker 7: so better pastors come, work picks.
Speaker 5: You can feel it already.
Speaker 7: We can feel it already.
Speaker 5: We so explain that to us football one on one.
Speaker 7: Ah, man, you know we can just feel that. You
Speaker 7: feel that the rushers are getting there. Everything's getting there,
Speaker 7: like we feel good about it. We love it. We
Speaker 7: watch it on film. Everybody's working, man. We love the
Speaker 7: how the front seven is looking and.
Speaker 5: When you can hit and harass and pressure quarterbacks more picks.
Speaker 5: Even the great Patrick Mahomes. That's how the Eagles won
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl? Right, Yeah? Who stands out so far?
Speaker 5: Give me who's who's Maybe I don't know, a young guy,
Speaker 5: a newcomer, players, no players, Is there anyone who's caught
Speaker 5: your eye out there so far? Either side of the ball,
Speaker 5: any position group?
Speaker 7: This young guy on a defensive and uh, they say
Speaker 7: Wats has been pretty good, and den Zale has been
Speaker 7: pretty good. Max has been playing good. Will like all
Speaker 7: the guys who brought in, Like, everybody's been playing good.
Speaker 7: Cody's been playing good. Even Bug we call him Cante.
Speaker 7: This is his name, so seventh rounder. Yeah, he's been
Speaker 7: playing good. Man, everybody's been playing good.
Speaker 5: What was your action when you saw the muscle mass
Speaker 5: that Marvin Harrison Junior put on lining up?
Speaker 4: Agains me?
Speaker 7: Like, yo, man, did you did you grow a few?
Speaker 5: Greg Dorsch was in here, He's like, he talked about,
Speaker 5: you know what, now corners are going to face going
Speaker 5: against Marvin Harrison Junior, and he paused, he said, yeah,
Speaker 5: good luck with that. What what what is going to
Speaker 5: make Marvin a challenge? Especially with the added strength? What
Speaker 5: does that do for him? And when he's battling corners
Speaker 5: one on one?
Speaker 7: I feel like it's just give him more strength at
Speaker 7: the top of his wraps. Marvin's already pretty good route runner,
Speaker 7: he got great hands, good speed. I just felt like
Speaker 7: he just added another layer on how good he's going
Speaker 7: to be in his league. Honestly, he just keep adding
Speaker 7: on to it. So I'm excited to see what he does.
Speaker 7: I'm glad I get to go against him every day
Speaker 7: and practice because it makes me better myself.
Speaker 5: So, yeah, are there do you guys help each other out? Like,
Speaker 5: okay after a rep or after a practice or maybe periodically,
Speaker 5: do you tell each other Okay, I tried this, you know,
Speaker 5: maybe you do that?
Speaker 8: Do you?
Speaker 5: You guys saw Yeah, paradogs like that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely, because I was always good to see what
Speaker 7: a receiver is seeing from a dB and what are
Speaker 7: they're thinking and vice versas so, and we're teammates at
Speaker 7: the end of the day, and we all want to
Speaker 7: see each other do good and we all want to
Speaker 7: win games. So if that's gonna be a way for
Speaker 7: me to help him win games and me win, that's
Speaker 7: a plus for us.
Speaker 5: Starling Thomas the Fifth is our guest here in the
Speaker 5: Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert Jalen
Speaker 5: Thompson confirmed for us. So, when you guys are watching
Speaker 5: film the last couple of months, so last season, you
Speaker 5: started seeing your schemes being replicated by other teams.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was crazy.
Speaker 5: That's Good's a heck of a compliment, isn't it is?
Speaker 7: Though? It is? It is. It was like, bro, are
Speaker 7: they running the same thing? And we were running but
Speaker 7: they didn't run it right there? Run it like us?
Speaker 5: So, I mean, tell us about Nick Ross. What does
Speaker 5: it like to play for such an innovative defensive coordinator?
Speaker 7: Oh? Man, I love it. So many different schemes, so
Speaker 7: many different techniques. He's always making a quarterback in the
Speaker 7: offensive coordinator rethink you know, have them on an edge.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 7: I love Nick. He's He's also a high energy guy.
Speaker 7: Who do you want to play for? He talks a lot,
Speaker 7: you know, man, so we always want to back up
Speaker 7: our decordinator. Man, So I love playing from Nick.
Speaker 5: Trey McBride admitted he goes right after Nick Ross if
Speaker 5: he ever makes a catch.
Speaker 7: He does every time Trey cass theball, he looks right
Speaker 7: at Nick.
Speaker 5: And then Jacoby Brissett was in there and he's like,
Speaker 5: oh yeah, I'm a trash talker. And you know, nobody
Speaker 5: even has to start it with me. I'll started Jacoby.
Speaker 5: That's the thing.
Speaker 7: About this scene right now. Everybody's just so competitive.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 7: We love it and it's bringing the best out of everyone.
Speaker 1: That's good.
Speaker 5: You know. During camp, Chris Stapleton, Country Music Superstar is
Speaker 5: gonna be across the street. You're gonna take Buddha over
Speaker 5: to a Chris Stapleton concert.
Speaker 7: I have to is a must. I'm drag him out.
Speaker 5: Have you helped him develop a little bit of an
Speaker 5: affinity for country music?
Speaker 7: He has grown? He has grown. He has grown. When
Speaker 7: he goes golfing, he listens to it. Now, have you
Speaker 7: taken up golfing? He's taking me, He's taking me?
Speaker 5: All right, that's great, darling.
Speaker 7: We really enjoyed it, have you, man?
Speaker 5: We look forward to it. I mean twenty two starts
Speaker 5: in two years. Think about that. Think about the depth
Speaker 5: in the cornerback room. Think about what a loaded defensive
Speaker 5: front is going to do for the secondary. We can't wait.
Speaker 5: We continue. It is a big red rage presented by
Speaker 5: santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford.
Speaker 4: Play action of boot to the right. Murray looking downfield
Speaker 4: now loves it deep heresigned Harrison count it looks funny.
Speaker 4: Ten the ten. Parrison dies to the end zone.
Speaker 3: He's in Touchdowwn step to Murray looking left now in trouble,
Speaker 3: spins left now steps up running left.
Speaker 4: Murray breaks a tackle looking end zone, firing.
Speaker 3: Left side, a sliding tuch for a touchdown and it's Higgins.
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray does it again for Murray Magic.
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray staying alive with it looked like he was
Speaker 1: gonna be sacked.
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray, who takes the shotgun step backs up, looks
Speaker 3: left everybody covered. Murray spins to his left, now running
Speaker 3: being chased by Young at the five yard line, and
Speaker 3: Murray hoists it deep in near side. Harrison Clottet had
Speaker 3: a fifty yard line and he's tackled there. An incredible
Speaker 3: play by Kyler Murray to keep that play alive.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many human beings make that play that.
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray just played the mighty Kyler Murray.
Speaker 5: No doubt when he's at his best. The Cardinals are
Speaker 5: at their best, and they're one of the best offenses
Speaker 5: in the NFL. It is the Big Red Rage presented
Speaker 5: by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford, Paul
Speaker 5: calvec Ron Wolfley. We're going to get into Kyler in
Speaker 5: the offense, but special thanks to Starling Thomas once again
Speaker 5: his off season training addition where he's replicating baby steps
Speaker 5: in not so many words. I think that went way
Speaker 5: above my head. He says it's working though for him
Speaker 5: out on the field, So we'll take his word for
Speaker 5: it on that one. How about the fact that he confirmed,
Speaker 5: just like Jalen Thompson, the teams did steal the Cardinals
Speaker 5: defensive schemes at the end of last year, except as
Speaker 5: Starling told us, yeah, they really weren't doing it right.
Speaker 5: They weren't doing it for the caliber Nick Rowlis wanted
Speaker 5: it in the way he designed it, Okay, and then
Speaker 5: Wolf he can already tell even out during OTAs that
Speaker 5: the pass rush has been elevated, that the Cardinals front seven,
Speaker 5: all the investments are going to pay off. They're already
Speaker 5: paying off. He can already tell the way they're going
Speaker 5: to be able to affect the quarterback this year. I mean,
Speaker 5: you talk about tick talk. We all look forward to that.
Speaker 1: No doubt about it, Paul. I mean, think about it.
Speaker 1: As a quarterback. You love the dynamic where you know
Speaker 1: your offensive protection is really really good, and it's not
Speaker 1: just the offensive line, it's everybody. The receivers are going
Speaker 1: to run their right route, the offensive line is going
Speaker 1: to protect there, your running back is going to pick
Speaker 1: up litz Is. If you can actually have that kind
Speaker 1: of confidence in your protection. It makes a quarterback that
Speaker 1: much better when that protection breaks down, when he can't
Speaker 1: count on being protected. Oh man, that's a big advantage
Speaker 1: to the defense.
Speaker 5: And then there are a handful of quarterbacks that when
Speaker 5: the production breaks down, it doesn't matter because they have
Speaker 5: the athleticism to get out and make a defense pay.
Speaker 5: Kyler Murray is most definitely one of those quarterbacks. Talking
Speaker 5: to Jacoby Brissett QB two this week, Wolf, he said,
Speaker 5: you know the difference between me and Kyler is I
Speaker 5: have a six yard run and for Kyler that's a
Speaker 5: touchdown run. He said, that's just one of the many differences.
Speaker 5: He had some self deprecating humor on that one. But seriously, though,
Speaker 5: Kyler Murray this offseason. In fact, back in April, Cardinals
Speaker 5: Corner Arizona Sports in April, talking to Tyler Drake, he
Speaker 5: broke down, Okay, what happens when plays break down and
Speaker 5: how I can produce more.
Speaker 8: I think where we could be better as a unit
Speaker 8: in myself as extending plays in scrambled drill, because I mean,
Speaker 8: you go, look, you look at Josh, you look at Lamar,
Speaker 8: like a lot of things that they do the sexy
Speaker 8: plays come from outside of the pocket and when things
Speaker 8: break down. That's something that me is you and Drew
Speaker 8: have talked about, is guys have to confinue to move,
Speaker 8: Guys have to continue stay active when play breaks down,
Speaker 8: because you know that's gonna happen with a guy like myself,
Speaker 8: you know, being quarterbacks. So I think that's a big area.
Speaker 8: Aphysis is make it things happen whatever plays breakdown.
Speaker 5: You know, he mentioned Josh Allen Lamar Jackson more than once.
Speaker 5: It's almost like he was sitting around watching the AFC
Speaker 5: playoffs and sort of had an epiphany, said, you know
Speaker 5: what I can do that Maybe I need to get
Speaker 5: back to doing that. Because Wolf, if you go back
Speaker 5: to the first half of twenty twenty one when he
Speaker 5: was a legitimate MVP candidate, he was doing a lot
Speaker 5: that wasn't.
Speaker 1: He Yeah, No, he was Paully, no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: And this is the great conversation that we have had
Speaker 1: over the years with Kyler Murray. This, Polly is a
Speaker 1: great example. It's a great soundcut because to me, this
Speaker 1: is what I want to see from Kyler Murray. This
Speaker 1: is when I want Kyler Murray to run the ball.
Speaker 1: I don't want a lot of called runs for Kyler Murray,
Speaker 1: Polly every now and then, is it a bad idea
Speaker 1: to go ahead and have a quarterback sweep or go
Speaker 1: ahead with the you know, the read option. Of course
Speaker 1: you can do all of these things. But Paul to
Speaker 1: me once again, you want the defense to know, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we will run him. You don't think we're gonna run him.
Speaker 1: We will. You better pay attention to that. But man,
Speaker 1: more than anything, when it breaks down, when he has
Speaker 1: got to go out there and create, that's when I
Speaker 1: want him to use his legs, not just to run,
Speaker 1: not just to always run the ball, but to extend
Speaker 1: the play like we have seen him do famously over
Speaker 1: the first seven years of his career.
Speaker 5: No doubt. And look, especially in the red zone. To
Speaker 5: your point, you know, okay, a design run here, they're
Speaker 5: absolutely warranted, really effective when he's trying to beat someone
Speaker 5: to the pylon.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 5: But even Kyler Murray said over the years he'd much
Speaker 5: rather have it be organic that when he sees open
Speaker 5: green or he sees a defense with their backs to him,
Speaker 5: and then he takes off and we all know how
Speaker 5: backbreaking and demoralizing it is when it's third and fourteen
Speaker 5: to the quarterback runs for fifteen. So there's that and
Speaker 5: then there's another aspect of how this offense is evolving,
Speaker 5: and that's something that Trey McBride talked about this week, saying,
Speaker 5: you know what, more sauce please.
Speaker 6: It's not as fundamental, it's not as basic. They're adding
Speaker 6: a lot of motions and a lot of you know,
Speaker 6: sauce is what I call it, just putting a little
Speaker 6: you know, extra flavor on the same plays that we have,
Speaker 6: maybe motion guys to it, running different guys in different things,
Speaker 6: So trying to stick to our main you know, concepts
Speaker 6: that we have, but dressing them up in different ways,
Speaker 6: whether you know, one guy's running a motion or some
Speaker 6: guys doing a route. But it's all kind of the
Speaker 6: same concepts, just different ways to get to it. So, yeah,
Speaker 6: this offense can be very complex. And the way that
Speaker 6: Drew and these guys have changed throughout the offseason and
Speaker 6: continue to build it, it's been a lot of fun
Speaker 6: and I'm excited to see us in action area.
Speaker 5: You know, Drew Petsing likes to use the word multiple.
Speaker 5: We can do multiple things out of the same personnel group.
Speaker 5: Multiple things out of the same formation. I tend to think,
Speaker 5: just because they're in the Cardinals division, Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVeigh,
Speaker 5: how many times maybe are they running a similar play,
Speaker 5: but it's not a totally different personnel or a different formation.
Speaker 5: At least that's what defensive players have said over the years,
Speaker 5: and it can make it really hard to predict, really
Speaker 5: hard to decipher what's coming when. And so now that
Speaker 5: some of these guys have another year under their belt
Speaker 5: of this system, it would make sense, wouldn't it that
Speaker 5: the football IQ goes up and now the offensive cornera
Speaker 5: can dial up a little bit more.
Speaker 1: No doubt about it, Belly, right now, this is the
Speaker 1: next step for Kyler Murray and this offense. It's year
Speaker 1: three and Drew Petsing's offense now they have definitely got
Speaker 1: to step it up. Pauli, There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: I think we're going to see that Sauce, as Trey
Speaker 1: McBride is talking about right now. But for me, the
Speaker 1: broken plays once again, Bali, they got to be able
Speaker 1: to capitalize on that first and foremost. I think the
Speaker 1: chemistry with Marvin Harrison Junior that has got to be
Speaker 1: number one, Paulli number two. It's improving in these broken
Speaker 1: plays for me. But yeah, the sauce is moving around
Speaker 1: this offensive front and getting some type of motion where
Speaker 1: defenses are constantly making checks on what you're doing. I
Speaker 1: know why Drew Petsing didn't make it complicated. I know
Speaker 1: why he did last year, and that was because he
Speaker 1: wanted Marvin Harrison Junior and Kyler Murray to be really,
Speaker 1: really base and try to build some type of foundation
Speaker 1: for chemistry. That's what he wanted more than anything else. Paully.
Speaker 1: Now they can build on that foundation and from last year.
Speaker 1: But to me, that's why he didn't do a lot
Speaker 1: of movement. He didn't want it to be complicated for
Speaker 1: Kyler or for Marvin Harrison Junior. Now it's time to
Speaker 1: take that next step together.
Speaker 5: And the one play that both Kyler and Drew Petsen
Speaker 5: have cited over and over his evidence was week to
Speaker 5: touchdown number two against the Rams, the sixty yarder, Oh yeah,
Speaker 5: where Kyler bought time and pointed and there was Marvin
Speaker 5: Harrison Junior going to a vacated space in the defense.
Speaker 5: It was basically backyard football and then Kyler boom hits
Speaker 5: him in stride and then Marvin Harrison does the rest
Speaker 5: and he houses it all the way to the pylon.
Speaker 5: That's the kind of thing that you know, Kyler has
Speaker 5: talked about, and I think rightfully so receivers cannot give
Speaker 5: up on a play, keep running because you never know
Speaker 5: your quarterback is going to extend a play for a
Speaker 5: stupid amount of time. I mean, yes, the receivers have
Speaker 5: to stay active, don't they.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they have to, you know. And that really
Speaker 1: is that when you hear him say the scram drill
Speaker 1: when you're Kyler talking about it as well, and some
Speaker 1: other cuts that we have played throughout the years. When
Speaker 1: he's talking about that, they do that over and over
Speaker 1: and over again in practice. The scramble drill is real
Speaker 1: and it's alive, and it's something that's got to become
Speaker 1: a significant part of what the Arizona Cardinals are going
Speaker 1: to do because it is the wild card. And one
Speaker 1: other thing too, Bali. While we're talking about all of this,
Speaker 1: but man, and you already touched on it a little bit,
Speaker 1: but when a play breaks down because the opposing defense
Speaker 1: is getting pressure and getting after Kyler Murray and he
Speaker 1: breaks out of that pressure, and you've got man covered
Speaker 1: down the field and suddenly he converts a third and
Speaker 1: thirteen like Russell Wilson used to do when he was
Speaker 1: up in Seattle. It just breaks the defensive coordinator's heart.
Speaker 1: It sucks the life out of a defense who has
Speaker 1: done every right on first down, everything right on second down,
Speaker 1: got you into a third and thirteen, and suddenly that
Speaker 1: quarterback converts with his legs. It is demoralizing, Paul.
Speaker 5: You can sense it, just the vibe, the body language,
Speaker 5: the slump shoulders on the sideline. It really is demoralizing, deflating.
Speaker 5: So we heard from Trey McBride there. We talked about
Speaker 5: Marvin Errison Junior. I want to know who's the third
Speaker 5: receiving option in this offense. When we come back, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna talk about position battles, where is it most competitive,
Speaker 5: Who exactly is the quarterback of the defense. We're gonna
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Speaker 3: To Gino drops back, the pass gets hit, the ball
Speaker 3: comes out, and it's recovered by Smith that the forty
Speaker 3: one Zaven Collins in the backfield.
Speaker 4: Boys, he having a day.
Speaker 9: I still do a lot of crazy stuff. I got'ta
Speaker 9: line up in the hay gap and still drop Nick
Speaker 9: likes to stretch the limits of how hard can we
Speaker 9: make this?
Speaker 1: This drob Nick rawl is doing a great job disguising
Speaker 1: what he's going to do.
Speaker 9: They make it very simple for you know, guys to
Speaker 9: be able to be in that defense, especially a bigger
Speaker 9: body guy that has to drop and what they ask
Speaker 9: of us. They're very cognizant of what they want us
Speaker 9: to do and how they want us to do it.
Speaker 5: Well, remember the win in Miami last year and I
Speaker 5: think we all did a double take. Wait a minute,
Speaker 5: is that Zabon Collins at nearly six five to seventy
Speaker 5: something running straight down the middle of the field one
Speaker 5: on one with Tyreek Hill And it was a definitive yes,
Speaker 5: as he confirm last season, right here actually on the
Speaker 5: Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. He
Speaker 5: was elaborating on that a little bit more this week
Speaker 5: in meeting the media, And so when Starlin Thomas on
Speaker 5: this episode confirms it, yes, other teams are replicating Nick
Speaker 5: Rollis's schemes. I don't know if that's one of them,
Speaker 5: having you know, a guy who is the starting middle
Speaker 5: linebackers now edge player actually covered the likes of a
Speaker 5: Tyreek killed downfield. But yeah, sometimes it can get pretty
Speaker 5: dang innovative, can it not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt about it. Bully and what they
Speaker 1: have done with Zavan Collins lining them up in that
Speaker 1: A gap, Paul. A lot of the times they're playing
Speaker 1: Tampa too, and that's when you have two safeties high
Speaker 1: and that Mike backer is running down the middle of
Speaker 1: the field. But rarely are you ever going to put
Speaker 1: that Mike backer in the A gap and drop him
Speaker 1: into the middle of the field, hunting up the number
Speaker 1: two receiver typically towards the strength of the formation that
Speaker 1: is Tampa too. It's been around a long time, but man,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of different ways you can get to
Speaker 1: Tampa to and execute.
Speaker 5: It, all right, let's talk about middle linebacker. It used
Speaker 5: to be the position for Zamon Collins. For a few
Speaker 5: days in the offseason, had a hot take that maybe
Speaker 5: Zamon Collins was going back to mike backer. That's a
Speaker 5: definitive no. Thanks KLVC for wasting our time on that one.
Speaker 5: It is going to either be from what we can tell,
Speaker 5: Michael Walker, a Keen Davis Gaither or the rookie Cody
Speaker 5: Simon Wolf. How would you handicap thinks? How wide open
Speaker 5: is this battle to be the quarterback of the defense
Speaker 5: now that team captain Kaizer White, from all appearances, will
Speaker 5: not be back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, Paully. I think a Keen Davis Gaither
Speaker 1: is the guy that actually has the inside hand, so
Speaker 1: to speak, on this. I think he's got the best
Speaker 1: opportunity to be your starter. I will say that Cody
Speaker 1: Simon is fascinating to me. He really is. I think
Speaker 1: he's smart enough to actually do it. Now. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's smart enough to actually go out and have
Speaker 1: the green dot, but I do believe he's smart enough
Speaker 1: to actually line up and play inside linebacker, play the
Speaker 1: mike backer position in the National Football League. Now, man,
Speaker 1: that is a that is a tall, tall order right
Speaker 1: there to actually fill because it's very difficult. You've got
Speaker 1: to know everything. You have got to understand what an
Speaker 1: offense is doing, what schemes are doing. And the thing
Speaker 1: he lacks the most is the experience of playing in
Speaker 1: an NFL box, not a college box, an NFL box.
Speaker 1: And that's the one reason why I pause and hesitate,
Speaker 1: because I think Cody Simon has the physical abilities to
Speaker 1: do that job and do it very very well, and
Speaker 1: the mentality, but he just lacks the experience. And it's
Speaker 1: the reason why I would say that Davis Gaither is
Speaker 1: probably in the lead.
Speaker 5: And what's really interesting, because we talked to him earlier
Speaker 5: this week, is that he really had a mac Wilson
Speaker 5: senior finish to twenty twenty four for the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 5: What mac Wilson senior did in December and January for
Speaker 5: the Patriots, which got him paid by the Cardinals a
Speaker 5: keen Davis Gath almost replicated that. He went from a
Speaker 5: special team's assassin special teams captain to a starting inside linebacker.
Speaker 5: He had a thirteen tackle game at Pittsburgh. He had
Speaker 5: a twelve tackle game against Tennessee. He had another twelve
Speaker 5: tackle game in the rematch against Pittsburgh in the season.
Speaker 5: I mean, he ended the year as a tackling machine.
Speaker 5: And I think he put film out there Wolf you
Speaker 5: tell me where JG and MONTIOSIV were like, wait a minute,
Speaker 5: maybe this guy is ready for more. Maybe this guy
Speaker 5: can wear the green dot and call our defense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Paul, I mean he averaged nine point seven tackles
Speaker 1: per game. You know, that's pretty dog on good right there. Again,
Speaker 1: for a guy that came in under the auspices in
Speaker 1: which he did, being a special teams player and then
Speaker 1: getting the start over the last six games for the Bengals,
Speaker 1: that really is a nice little sample size. Yet at
Speaker 1: the same time, time, man, you gotta be careful. He's
Speaker 1: going to have to come in here, I think, and
Speaker 1: I think he's going to have to win that job.
Speaker 1: I think that's going to be an open competition right there,
Speaker 1: don't you, Paul.
Speaker 5: I do you know? And he's the son of a coach,
Speaker 5: right as his father is an assistant at Virginia, And
Speaker 5: he said sometimes he'll even get feedback on his phone
Speaker 5: at halftime from his dad. So he has a high
Speaker 5: football at QUB by all accounts, I want to ask
Speaker 5: you real quick. We teased it wide receiver two and
Speaker 5: three after Marvin Arson Junior, after training Bride at tight
Speaker 5: end your top two targets. But wait a minute, isn't
Speaker 5: the room for someone to establish themselves, especially as wide
Speaker 5: receiver two on this roster?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, there's no doubt about it. I mean,
Speaker 1: Greg Derch, I think once again is going to be
Speaker 1: one of your starters in eleven personnel. I think Michael
Speaker 1: Wilson is going to have the opportunity to go out
Speaker 1: there and prove that he is not the guy. I
Speaker 1: think he is going to be the guy because I
Speaker 1: believe in Michael Wilson. I think he's going to continue
Speaker 1: to take that next step. But yeah, there's some interesting
Speaker 1: guys they have PAULI that are out there that could
Speaker 1: make a run at him.
Speaker 5: Even Zay Jones, who sort of had a pretty solid
Speaker 5: finish in week seventeen and eighteen when he finally got
Speaker 5: in rhythm, got some targets. He could be an intriguing
Speaker 5: Guy's had some huge seasons in the NFL. He told
Speaker 5: us this week he feels really good. So there's that,
Speaker 5: and then there's corner. I mean even minus Sean Murphy
Speaker 5: Bunting done for the year with injury. I consider that
Speaker 5: pretty wide open, including the rookie Will Johnson, who I
Speaker 5: think is gonna be given every opportunity to be a
Speaker 5: starting corner man.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be fascinating to watch. Are you really going
Speaker 1: to take Will Johnson and stick him out there on
Speaker 1: an island? Are you gonna do that? Week one? Are
Speaker 1: you gonna do that? Are you gonna run him out there?
Speaker 1: And he's gonna be the starter coming out of training camp? Yes,
Speaker 1: is my answer to that. I think the kids got
Speaker 1: everything that he needs. And what I love about this
Speaker 1: the vetting process with JG of course, and Manti asen
Speaker 1: Fort and every kid they bring onto this roster right now.
Speaker 1: They have a great way of vetting this guy and
Speaker 1: whether or not he's got the mentality, whether or not
Speaker 1: he's got the intellect to actually come on and play
Speaker 1: the position and do it well as a young guy man.
Speaker 1: To me, they're really really high on Will Johnson in
Speaker 1: regard to his brain and in regard to his physical gifts.
Speaker 1: And because of that, I think, Paul, this is just
Speaker 1: it's not even a hot take, is it. But Will
Speaker 1: Johnson's your starter week one.
Speaker 5: How many times Jonathan Gannon called him a quote perfect
Speaker 5: scheme fit. Yeah, Drew Standon told us on the Red
Speaker 5: Sea Report, Wink Martindale, the defensive coordinator from Michigan runs
Speaker 5: an NFL caliber defense, very complex, very complicated, very exotic
Speaker 5: at times. If Will Johnson can master that defense in
Speaker 5: one year, then he's equipped for the NFL. So I
Speaker 5: thought that was really intriguing. And then if he truly
Speaker 5: is an elite corner think about the fact that Patrick Sir,
Speaker 5: Tam Sauce Gardner, Derek Stingley Junior, they have started every
Speaker 5: single game of their NFL career. The moment they were drafted,
Speaker 5: they were starters, not unlike Marvin Arrison Junior, not unlike
Speaker 5: Paris Johnson Junior. I mean, if he's that dude, if
Speaker 5: he's that good, if he's a legitimate top fifteen player
Speaker 5: in this draft, win healthy, and the only reason he
Speaker 5: fell is because of some erroneous claims about his knee,
Speaker 5: then I agree with you. He easily could be cornerback
Speaker 5: one when they break camp in August.
Speaker 1: And Paul, that is a jammed room now cornerback, which
Speaker 1: is amazing right now because it was a going into
Speaker 1: last season. We thought it was a weakness. It didn't
Speaker 1: turn out to be a weakness. Now it's a jam
Speaker 1: pack room.
Speaker 5: No doubt. Maximelon looked really good at the end of
Speaker 5: last year. Starling Thomas our guest tonight. He started twenty
Speaker 5: two games in two years, so it is going to
Speaker 5: be highly competitive. Not to mention Garrett Williams, you're starting
Speaker 5: nickel corner, one of the highest graded corners in the
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