WEBVTT - Department of Cerberus

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Cerberus. Deputy Defense Secretary Stephen Feinberg wants America's

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<v Speaker 1>war machine to get cozier with companies. The private equity

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<v Speaker 1>firm he co founded is building a constellation of next

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<v Speaker 1>generation businesses to answer the call by Caleb Melby read

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<v Speaker 1>aloud by Mark Leedorf. Late last year, Deputy Secretary of

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<v Speaker 1>Defense Stephen Feinberg walked on stage at the National War

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<v Speaker 1>College in Washington and announced that the military was overhauling

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<v Speaker 1>how it buys weapons. It was a rare public appearance

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<v Speaker 1>for Feinberg, a billionaire financial engineer who eschews the limelight

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<v Speaker 1>as much as his boss, former Fox News host Pete Hegseth,

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<v Speaker 1>embraces it. Speaking haltingly, Feinberg warned that America's adversaries have

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<v Speaker 1>never been stronger and that the Pentagon wasn't keeping up.

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<v Speaker 1>We do things in a very old manner, a slow manner,

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<v Speaker 1>a bureaucratic manner, and we must change.

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<v Speaker 2>That, Feinberg said.

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<v Speaker 1>He put private businesses that sell to the government on

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<v Speaker 1>notice two. The contractors who are willing to change with

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<v Speaker 1>us will prosper and grow, he said. Those who don't

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<v Speaker 1>and resist it will be gone. The new initiative included

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<v Speaker 1>the creation of an Economic Defense Unit, or EDU, reporting

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<v Speaker 1>to Feinberg that would accelerate the production of weapons, bolster

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<v Speaker 1>domestic supply chains, and counter China's economic power. Before entering

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<v Speaker 1>government last year, Feinberg was the co chief executive officer

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<v Speaker 1>of Cerberus Capital Management, a private equity firm he co

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<v Speaker 1>founded that has seventy billion dollars of assets under management,

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<v Speaker 1>including investments in Albertson's supermarkets and dozens of other companies.

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<v Speaker 2>In function and design, the.

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<v Speaker 1>EDU looked a lot like Cerberus. There was good reason

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<v Speaker 1>for that. In Weinberg's first weeks in office, Pentagon staff

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<v Speaker 1>were dispatched to the company's New York headquarters, where they

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<v Speaker 1>met with executives overseeing investments in defense related businesses with

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<v Speaker 1>the goal of learning how the Pentagon could better engage

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<v Speaker 1>private investors. According to a person familiar with the conversations

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<v Speaker 1>who wasn't authorized to speak about them, in January, an

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<v Speaker 1>opinion piece in The Hill highlighted key details about how

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<v Speaker 1>the EDU would accomplish its mission, months before Finberg's own

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<v Speaker 1>memo on the topic. The author, Paul Miller, had recently

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<v Speaker 1>left Cerberus, where he'd helped oversee the firm's investments in

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<v Speaker 1>national security businesses. The edu, Miller wrote, would avoid bureaucracy

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<v Speaker 1>and move capital rapidly like a private equity partner. George Kalatidis,

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<v Speaker 1>one of four Cerberus veterans Finberg had brought into the Pentagon,

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<v Speaker 1>was selected to run the new office. Another, David Lorch,

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<v Speaker 1>was tapped to lead the Office of Strategic Capital OSC,

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<v Speaker 1>which has a two hundred billion dollar lending budget. In

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<v Speaker 1>Feinberg's assent to the number two job at the Pentagon,

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<v Speaker 1>former Cerberus executives have gained remarkable access to the largest

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<v Speaker 1>US government agency that presents potential conflicts. Unlike any the

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<v Speaker 1>Defense Department has seen. In an administration teaming with billionaires

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<v Speaker 1>and rife with crypto enrichment, stock trading in companies interacting

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<v Speaker 1>with the government, and public transactions that benefit the president's suns,

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<v Speaker 1>Feinberg has quietly achieved something different in personnel, priorities and policy.

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<v Speaker 1>He has remade the Pentagon with its one trillion dollar

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<v Speaker 1>budget in Cerberus's image. Those changes have implications for American

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<v Speaker 1>industry and national security that will be felt for years

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<v Speaker 1>to come, and as Feinberg shakes up how the military

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<v Speaker 1>does business. Cerberus and Tracker Capital, Management, of venture capital

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<v Speaker 1>firm he founded, are building next generation national security businesses

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<v Speaker 1>poised to profit in a new era of warfare. This

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<v Speaker 1>isn't Cerberus's first attempt to become a business partner for

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<v Speaker 1>America's war machine. As recently as twenty nineteen, it was

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty fifth largest defense contractor, with one point nine

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars in awards, according to an annual government list

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<v Speaker 1>of the top one hundred. As one of its companies,

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<v Speaker 1>which built barracks and trained police in Afghanistan, went sideways,

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<v Speaker 1>the flow of money dwindled in twenty twenty, when Cerberus

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<v Speaker 1>sold the company Dine Corp International for an undisclosed amount.

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<v Speaker 1>Its revenue from the Defense Department collapsed to six hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty five million dollars. It remained below five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars a year through twenty twenty four, the last

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<v Speaker 1>year for which such data is available. Cerberus's pivot from

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<v Speaker 1>investing in big contractors to more cutting edge technologies began

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<v Speaker 1>during Donald Trump's first administration, when Feinberg chaired the President's

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<v Speaker 1>Intelligence Advisory Board and received top secret briefings that increased

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<v Speaker 1>his alarm about China. Although most of Cerberus's assets are

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<v Speaker 1>still in non defense companies, the private equity firm and

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<v Speaker 1>Tracker went on a buying spree starting in twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>acquiring or investing in more than two dozen national security businesses.

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<v Speaker 1>An examination of company documents and public filings shows one

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<v Speaker 1>tests hypersonic weapons, another installs undersea communications cables, a third

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<v Speaker 1>manages a strategic shipyard in the Pacific. Five have been

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<v Speaker 1>selected to bid on Trump's Golden Dome missile shield initiative.

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<v Speaker 1>A tiny start up Feinberg championed before taking office below

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<v Speaker 1>the radar of most telecommunications analysts, has been integrated into

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<v Speaker 1>efforts encouraged by the Defense Department to build a six

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<v Speaker 1>G wireless network that could be worth billions of dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>While Feinberg has said he has divested his stakes in

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<v Speaker 1>Cerberus and Tracker, his published ethics agreement reserved the right

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<v Speaker 1>to place those assets in trusts for his adult children.

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<v Speaker 1>The Feinberg trusts planned to donate incentive fees received from

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<v Speaker 1>Cerberus funds to charities benefiting US veterans. According to a

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<v Speaker 1>trustee in his filings, Feinberg has left open the possibility

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<v Speaker 1>that he could return to the company, saying he would

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<v Speaker 1>consult with ethics officials before repurchasing any assets. Feinberg declined

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<v Speaker 1>requests for an interview. Sean Parnell, the chief Pentagon spokesman,

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<v Speaker 1>said Feinberg follows all federal laws and avoids any conflict

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<v Speaker 1>of interest. Deputy Secretary of War Steve Feinberg is a

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<v Speaker 1>man of integrity who has conducted himself ethically throughout his

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<v Speaker 1>entire career and has had a generational impact on the

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<v Speaker 1>Department of War, he said. Throughout his entire professional journey,

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<v Speaker 1>including his service as Deputy Secretary of War, he has

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<v Speaker 1>maintained an impeccable record of public trust, entirely free from

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<v Speaker 1>any conflict of interest. He has been successful in his

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<v Speaker 1>career before serving in government, during his service, and will

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<v Speaker 1>continue to be successful after he decides to move on.

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<v Speaker 1>A spokesman for Cerberus said Feinberg divested his stake in

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<v Speaker 1>Cerberus and any funds it manages, and is not involved

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<v Speaker 1>in the operations of Cerberus or its portfolio companies in

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<v Speaker 1>any way. The company has taken proactive steps to establish

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<v Speaker 1>a comprehensive compliance program designed to address any potential or

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<v Speaker 1>perceived conflicts. The spokesman said, including protocols prohibiting contact concerning

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<v Speaker 1>service investments with mister Feinberg and Cerber's alumni serving at

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<v Speaker 1>the department. Tracker Capital didn't respond to requests for comment.

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<v Speaker 1>The question of whether what's good for Feinberg and Cerberus

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<v Speaker 1>is good for the military is being tested as the

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<v Speaker 1>Pentagon deploys more capital than ever. Although he's now managing

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<v Speaker 1>taxpayer dollars, Feinberg has brought a Wall Street appetite for risk.

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<v Speaker 1>His team has negotiated deals to buy equity stakes in

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<v Speaker 1>companies and is exploring lease back arrangements to build housing

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<v Speaker 1>and data centers on military bases. People familiar with his

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<v Speaker 1>thinking say he'll consider the Pentagon's investments a success if

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<v Speaker 1>one in five succeed, in line with the world of

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<v Speaker 1>venture capital, where money is invested across startups and a

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<v Speaker 1>few winners can more than make up for failures. Defense

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<v Speaker 1>industry executives and government employees praised Feinberg for his willingness

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<v Speaker 1>to challenge the military's long standing deficiencies. The Pentagon has

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<v Speaker 1>had trouble tracking how it spends money, failing every financial

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<v Speaker 1>audit it is conducted in the past decade. It remains

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<v Speaker 1>dependent on a handful of large corporations such as Lockheed

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<v Speaker 1>Martin and Boeing, and key projects frequently come in behind

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<v Speaker 1>schedule or over budget. Feinberg's team has pushed what it

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<v Speaker 1>calls an acquisition transformation strategy across all the military services

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<v Speaker 1>to make the process faster, more flexible, and contingent on

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<v Speaker 1>rigorous benchmarks. The effort has ushered new companies, including startups,

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<v Speaker 1>into the Pentagon's contracting base, but the Cerberus deal makers

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<v Speaker 1>he's brought into the Pentagon have sidelined acquisition experts and

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<v Speaker 1>are unfamiliar with the nuts and bolts of government processes,

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<v Speaker 1>according to half a dozen current and former officials interviewed

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<v Speaker 1>by Bloomberg BusinessWeek who ask not to be named for

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<v Speaker 1>fear of retribution. That's led to some rushed deals with

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<v Speaker 1>inadequate due diligence and bets on unproven technologies. One early

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<v Speaker 1>winner was Vulcan Elements, a producer of highly specialized commercial

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<v Speaker 1>magnets backed by a company in which Donald Trump Junior

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<v Speaker 1>is an investor. Former Cerberus executives now serve as Feinberg's

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<v Speaker 1>deputy chief of staff and as heads of both the

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<v Speaker 1>EDU and the OSC Cerberus, meanwhile, has a history of

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<v Speaker 1>hiring leaders close to the government. In twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>it added the former CEO of in q Tel, the

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<v Speaker 1>nonprofit venture capital firm created by the CIA, and the

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<v Speaker 1>highest ranking officer in the Space Force. Since Finberg joined

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<v Speaker 1>the government, Cerberus has recruited the first US Ambassador for

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<v Speaker 1>cybersecurity and the former acting director of the National Security Agency.

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<v Speaker 1>Feinberg's allies in government and business wave away concerns that

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<v Speaker 1>his time in the Pentagon might be a boon for Cerberus,

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<v Speaker 1>saying he's a patriot who's losing money to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>But Eileen Applebaum, co director of the Center for Economic

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<v Speaker 1>and Policy Research, who's testified before Congress about Cerberus, says

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<v Speaker 1>it isn't that simple. Cerberus looks out for itself. She says,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever is happening, whatever it's doing, they're thinking about how

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<v Speaker 1>they make money and come out on top. Feinberg has

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<v Speaker 1>been fascinated with the military since at least as far

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<v Speaker 1>back as his days at Princeton University, where he captained

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<v Speaker 1>the tennis team and enrolled in the Army Reserve Officers

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<v Speaker 1>Training Corps. He co founded Cerberus in nineteen ninety two,

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<v Speaker 1>naming it after the multi headed dog in Greek mythology

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<v Speaker 1>that guards the underworld. The firm's core businesses are in

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<v Speaker 1>private credit and real estate, but over time Feinberg directed

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<v Speaker 1>his company's expansion into the business of war, leading hours

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<v Speaker 1>long meetings about even small defense adjacent businesses and recruiting

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<v Speaker 1>executives from the CIA and the military. Now sixty six,

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<v Speaker 1>Feinberg is worth four point four billion dollars according to

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<v Speaker 1>the Bloomberg Billionaire's Index. But as he built that fortune,

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<v Speaker 1>he was always hunting for a bargain. One former employee

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<v Speaker 1>recalls him getting excited about buying four suits for the

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<v Speaker 1>price of three at jose Bank, the men's clothing store.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like your aunt who brags about the deal she

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<v Speaker 1>got on Jeanes at TJ Max, says the employee. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not about the genes, it's about the pursuit of a

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<v Speaker 1>good deal. Other Cerberus alumni talk about the pool his

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<v Speaker 1>wife requested at his modest ranch house in Stamford, Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 1>Feinberg took a week off to dig it himself before

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<v Speaker 1>giving up after one day and hiring a contractor. He's

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<v Speaker 1>since upgraded to Fancier Diggs. These tales of a finance

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<v Speaker 1>titan devoted to making money while also being uncomfortable spending

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<v Speaker 1>it underpin the respect he gets from former employees, even

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<v Speaker 1>liberal ones, who describe him as a Rockefeller Republican with

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<v Speaker 1>a sense of nobless obliege and a patriotic streak. Many

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<v Speaker 1>recall Cerberus holiday parties where festivities were halted so the

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<v Speaker 1>national anthem.

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<v Speaker 2>Could be played.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the years, Feinberg has constructed an anti publicity shield

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<v Speaker 1>as effective as any missile defense system. He once told investors.

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<v Speaker 1>The New York Times reported that if anyone at Cerberus

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<v Speaker 1>has his picture in the paper and a picture of

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<v Speaker 1>his apartment, we will do more than fire that person.

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<v Speaker 2>We will kill him.

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<v Speaker 1>That aversion to transparency has permeated the Defense Department, which

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<v Speaker 1>has stripped credentials from reporters who refuse to submit their

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<v Speaker 1>stories to the agency prior to publication. Investigations of leaks

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<v Speaker 1>led to the suspension and eventual firing of Feinberg's first

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<v Speaker 1>chief of staff, though there was no finding of wrongdoing.

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<v Speaker 1>Feinberg has played a key role in everything from the

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<v Speaker 1>Pentagon's push for its largest budget ever to overseeing its

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<v Speaker 1>artificial intelligence initiative, but except for his speech on acquisition reform.

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<v Speaker 1>He's let others handle the public conversation while.

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<v Speaker 2>He works behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't see the black hole, but you know it's

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<v Speaker 1>there because the planets around it wobble, says one former

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<v Speaker 1>Defense Department employee, describing Feinberg's management style. Behind that veil,

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<v Speaker 1>Feinberg's team of former Serberus executives has been focused on

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<v Speaker 1>reshaping how the Pentagon interacts with private businesses. Feinberg believes

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese companies are dominant in strategic industries as a result

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<v Speaker 1>of government backing, and he doesn't think US companies can

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<v Speaker 1>outrun them without their own government support. People familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>his thinking say a conviction that's led the Pentagon to

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<v Speaker 1>take ownership stakes in at least six companies, including Vulcan Elements,

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<v Speaker 1>Rare Earth's producer MP Materials, and rocket motor maker L

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<v Speaker 1>three Harris Technologies. His primary tools for drawing government and

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<v Speaker 1>business closer are the Economic Defense Unit and the Office

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<v Speaker 1>of Strategic Capital, which was created during the Biden administration

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<v Speaker 1>to make loans to companies that can help secure domestic

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<v Speaker 1>supply chains. Under Trump, the office's lending capacity has ballooned

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<v Speaker 1>to two hundred billion dollars, which Feinberg's team wants to

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<v Speaker 1>deploy over three years. Feinberg's arrival at the Pentagon was

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<v Speaker 1>met with excitement he'd done his research. Current and former

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<v Speaker 1>staff say his deal making expertise was sorely needed and

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<v Speaker 1>he was considered a more serious person than Hegsev, but

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<v Speaker 1>that good will began to fade when he spurned closer

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<v Speaker 1>collaboration with other government agencies, hired more Cerberus staff, and

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<v Speaker 1>came to rely on them over the department's career employees.

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<v Speaker 2>The people say.

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<v Speaker 1>While a formal application process still exists, they say the

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<v Speaker 1>Cerberus alumni prefer to source their own deals, relying on

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<v Speaker 1>their personal networks to find them. That, coupled with the

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<v Speaker 1>massive budget increase, is creating a bottleneck that's keeping money

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<v Speaker 1>from moving, the people say. By contrast, Cerberus has more

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<v Speaker 1>than one hundred and twenty managing directors to handle assets

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<v Speaker 1>equal to one third of the OSC's lending budget, and

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<v Speaker 1>without the aggressive timeline to deploy the cash. To ease

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<v Speaker 1>the backlog, Feinberg's team hired thirty investment bankers. The pitch

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<v Speaker 1>to potential employees made clear how the job would ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>pay off. According to a head hunting presentation put together

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<v Speaker 1>by recruitment firm hydrichen Struggles International on the Pentagon's behalf,

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<v Speaker 1>your exit opportunities will be exceptional, including the potential to

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<v Speaker 1>launch a new fund with members of this team, The

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<v Speaker 1>document says you will gain access to fundraising channels that

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<v Speaker 1>include royal families and foreign sovereign contacts. Feinberg's rush to

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<v Speaker 1>rebuild a domestic supply chain for their critical minerals used

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<v Speaker 1>in making components essential for warfare has led to some

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<v Speaker 1>sloppy deal making that's exposed fissures in the Trump administration

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<v Speaker 1>about how to tackle the problem. In November, the OSC

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<v Speaker 1>announced an eighty million dollar loan to re Element Technologies,

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<v Speaker 1>a rare earth's processor in Indiana, as part of a

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<v Speaker 1>larger one point four billion dollar venture into magnet manufacturing,

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<v Speaker 1>but the memorandum of intent was signed before due diligence

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<v Speaker 1>had been completed. Since then, Pentagon officials vetting the company

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<v Speaker 1>have raised red flags about its financial soundness and its

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<v Speaker 1>ability to scale up its technology.

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<v Speaker 2>Bloomberg News has reported.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time of the announcement, John Gallagher was Feinberg's

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<v Speaker 1>lead man.

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<v Speaker 2>For critical minerals deals.

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<v Speaker 1>A West Point graduate and thirty year U. S. Army veteran,

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<v Speaker 1>Gallagher is among Finberg's most trusted lieutenants. Before entering government,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd been on Trump's transition team and served as Feinberg's

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<v Speaker 1>assistant when he chaired the Intelligence Advisory Board during the

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<v Speaker 1>first Trump administration. He'd worked as a managing director at

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<v Speaker 1>both Tracker and Cerberus Supply Chain Fund, a two point

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<v Speaker 1>five billion dollar vehicle that counts cutters in Saudi Arabia's

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<v Speaker 1>sovereign wealth funds among its backers. According to three people

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with the investments, who asked not to be identified

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<v Speaker 1>because they weren't authorized to speak about the financing, Gallagher's

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<v Speaker 1>expertise lay in understanding what the government needed and thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about how to provide it. According to former Serberus employees,

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<v Speaker 1>deal making was not his primary focus. The same month

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<v Speaker 1>the deal was announced, Lorch was named director of the OSSE.

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<v Speaker 1>A mid level deal maker at the Supply Chain Fund,

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<v Speaker 1>Lorch was known for being able to keep Feinberg's long hours.

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<v Speaker 1>He was also viewed by former colleague as cautious. Lorch

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<v Speaker 1>wants to know exactly what the outcome will be. In

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<v Speaker 1>five years, says one former employee who worked with him

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<v Speaker 1>at Cerber's. You can't price risk that way. Soon there

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<v Speaker 1>were signs that the OSSE was rethinking how it approached

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<v Speaker 1>risk too. Earlier this year, the office sent out two

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<v Speaker 1>requests for proposals, according to documents reviewed by BusinessWeek, One

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<v Speaker 1>asked potential contractors for assistance in monitoring a portfolio of

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<v Speaker 1>forty to fifty deals. The other sought help redeveloping the

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<v Speaker 1>office's probability of default risk rating model. Lorch's team at

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<v Speaker 1>the OSSE gave the re Element deal a deeper look.

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<v Speaker 1>By May, it was on the rocks. It turned out

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<v Speaker 1>the company's CEO, Mark Jensen, had an ally in the

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<v Speaker 1>White House. When Bloomberg News reported that the Pentagon was

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<v Speaker 1>reevaluating the re Element loan, Trump trade advisor Peter Navarro,

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<v Speaker 1>who'd been pushing to make critical minerals investments, blasted Feinberg's team.

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<v Speaker 1>He said they had no experience and how to manage

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<v Speaker 1>a crisis at warp speed, and accuse the os of

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<v Speaker 1>subjecting companies to overburdensome reviews. Two months later, when the

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<v Speaker 1>Economic Defense Unit announced a twenty five million dollar investment

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<v Speaker 1>in the company, Lorch's Office of Strategic Capital was not

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<v Speaker 1>named in the release. Parnell, depending on spokesman declined to

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<v Speaker 1>answer questions about re Element, Gallagher, Lorch, Navarro, and re

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<v Speaker 1>Element didn't respond to requests for comment. Creating a domestic

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<v Speaker 1>critical minerals industry would be trying under the best of circumstances,

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<v Speaker 1>but the US off short its supply chain for decades,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning it's not only the rocks that are in short supply,

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<v Speaker 1>but also the refining capacity and expertise. Feinberg's team has

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<v Speaker 1>made targeted equity investments and loans because that's what they

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<v Speaker 1>know how to do, but it isn't clear that the

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<v Speaker 1>strategy of trying to out China China can succeed. One

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<v Speaker 1>former defense official says it would be easier to guarantee

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<v Speaker 1>loans underwritten by large US banks, gaining acts to their

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<v Speaker 1>underwriting and due diligence departments. It's extraordinarily susceptible to partisan manipulation,

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<v Speaker 1>as with the Pentagon's backing of vulcan elements. The official

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<v Speaker 1>says of Feinberg's strategy state directed capitalism with a whiff

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<v Speaker 1>of feudalism. There are favorable terms and conditions going out

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<v Speaker 1>to industries and actors who are nominally aligned with the party.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back with Department of Cerberus. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to Department of Cerberus. At his confirmation hearing last year,

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<v Speaker 1>Feinberg touted his experience operating defense contractors in our DoD companies.

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<v Speaker 2>Which we have bought over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly we were insiders, but I also have an outside

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<v Speaker 1>perspective to bring, he said. He offered his career in

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<v Speaker 1>corporate turnarounds as a reason why he would be able

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<v Speaker 1>to help the Pentagon improve its efficiency, cost structure, and operations.

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<v Speaker 2>This is in my.

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<v Speaker 1>Wheelhouse, hopefully, he told members of the Senate, while noting

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<v Speaker 1>that I have certainly made my share of mistakes. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of those mistakes involved companies with defense contracts. In two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and six, Feinberg led Cerberus on a gun buying spree.

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<v Speaker 1>It acquired thirteen firearms brands, including Remington and Bushmaster, to

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<v Speaker 1>form Freedom Group, which became the largest US gun and

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<v Speaker 1>ammunition maker by revenue. A major customer the Army, which

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<v Speaker 1>bought Remington M twenty four sniper rifles by the thousands.

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<v Speaker 1>Cerberus filed to take the company public in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and nine, but domestic gun sales dropped, and Remington was

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<v Speaker 1>haunted by claims that its rifles fired without the trigger

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<v Speaker 1>being pulled. A CNBC documentary revealed that the Marine Corps

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<v Speaker 1>Elite Sniper Training School had found the guns misfired as

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<v Speaker 1>often as twice every twenty rounds, posing a safety hazard.

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<v Speaker 1>Settlements with civilian users kept the outcome of the claims

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<v Speaker 1>from public view, and Remington said at the time that

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<v Speaker 1>its guns were safe, trusted, and reliable. The initial public

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<v Speaker 1>offering never happened. Then, in twenty twelve, a Bushmaster was

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<v Speaker 1>used to massacre twenty children and six adults at Sandy

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<v Speaker 1>Hook Elementary School in Connecticut, a few miles from where

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<v Speaker 1>Finberg's father lived. Four days later, Feinberg put Freedom up

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<v Speaker 1>for sale, but few buyers wanted to touch the company

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<v Speaker 1>even after its which the name back to Remington. Cerberus

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately told investors they could sell their shares to the gunmaker.

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<v Speaker 1>Inventory piled up and Remington's bonds plummeted. In twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>the company, which first sold rifles to the US military

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<v Speaker 1>in eighteen forty five, filed for bankruptcy. Cerberus's attempted turnaround

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<v Speaker 1>of Dyne Corp in twenty ten also ended badly. At

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<v Speaker 1>the time of the purchase, Dnecorp was the largest US

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<v Speaker 1>contractor in Afghanistan, training police and building garrisons. The government

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<v Speaker 1>had accused Dyne Corp of overcharging the State Department for

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<v Speaker 1>its services in Iraq. A member of the Bipartisan Commission

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<v Speaker 1>on Wartime Contracting said dine Corp's billing it maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>single most outrageous example of how contractors received billions of

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in the Iraq War without even basic documentation. The

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<v Speaker 1>dispute was resolved last year without a determination of liability,

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<v Speaker 1>when Dyne Corp agreed to pay a twenty one million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars settlement. Feinberg shuffled through Diyne Corp CEOs, going through

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<v Speaker 1>four in little more than a year, but his turnaround

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<v Speaker 1>artists were unable to write the ship and Dyne Corp

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<v Speaker 1>was sold for an undisclosed amount in twenty twenty. Four

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<v Speaker 1>years later, Cerberus jumped back into the military services business,

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<v Speaker 1>acquiring M one Support Services, which had scooped up a

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<v Speaker 1>major dine Corp contract. M One, run by several dine

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<v Speaker 1>Corp executives, was awarded nine hundred million dollars for servicing

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<v Speaker 1>military aircraft. In twenty twenty four, federal data show it

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<v Speaker 1>became Cerberus's largest Defense Department contractor by publicly available revenue.

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<v Speaker 1>Cerberus also owns Tier One Group, a military and law

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<v Speaker 1>enforcement training company with a complex in arkhan Saw that

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<v Speaker 1>offers urban sniper courses and a thirty acre model of

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<v Speaker 1>a village where troops engage in mock combat. Four Saudis

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<v Speaker 1>who participated in the twenty eighteen killing of Washington Post

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<v Speaker 1>journalist Jamal Koshoji, also trained there. The Cerberus spokesman said

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<v Speaker 1>the State Department vets all foreign partners trained by Tier One,

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<v Speaker 1>and that Cerberus and Tier One condemned the murder and

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<v Speaker 1>ceased all contracts with Saudi Arabia. Tier One was started

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and six by Steve Reikert, a former

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<v Speaker 1>Marine who secured an investment from Cerberus after guiding Feinberg

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<v Speaker 1>at a land navigation training session at Marine Corps Base

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<v Speaker 1>Camp Lejune in North Carolina. In a twenty twenty blog

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<v Speaker 1>post about a client he calls SF, who worked in

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<v Speaker 1>capital management in New York, Rykert described how he grabbed

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<v Speaker 1>SF by the collar to get him out of the

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<v Speaker 1>way of a poisonous cottonmouth snake. That would have been

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<v Speaker 1>a hard one to explain to my command, Riiker wrote.

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<v Speaker 1>When Paul Allen, the billionaire co founder of Microsoft, died

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty eighteen, there was something inside his twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollar estate that Feinberg wanted. It wasn't the Seattle Seahawks,

0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:14.600
<v Speaker 1>which Allan owned, or his collection of French Impressionist paintings. Instead,

0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:18.040
<v Speaker 1>it was the world's largest aircraft, with a wingspan longer

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<v Speaker 1>than a football field, Stashed in a hangar in California's

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<v Speaker 1>Mojave Desert. The Rock, a twin fuselage behemoth that incorporated

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<v Speaker 1>parts from two Boeing seven forty sevens, was designed to

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<v Speaker 1>carry air launch to orbit rockets and satellites. Allan died

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<v Speaker 1>before he ever got to see the Rock fly, and

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<v Speaker 1>without access to Alan's fortune, the company that built it, Stradalaunch,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see a future. It announced plans to cease operations

0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:47.439
<v Speaker 1>and put its assets up for sale. Allan's estate listed

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<v Speaker 1>the company for four hundred million dollars, but drew no

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<v Speaker 1>serious interest from fellow space pioneers Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos. Feinberg,

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<v Speaker 1>who chaired Trump's Intelligence Advisory Board at the time, would

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<v Speaker 1>have been aware of Mountain concerned about hypersonic weapons, highly

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<v Speaker 1>maneuverable missiles that can change course while traveling a mile

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<v Speaker 1>a second, making it nearly impossible to target or intercept.

0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:14.439
<v Speaker 1>China unveiled one in October twenty nineteen. The US was

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<v Speaker 1>far from developing a competing weapon, but before Strata Launch

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<v Speaker 1>was put up for sale, it had been developing testing

0:25:20.720 --> 0:25:24.440
<v Speaker 1>technology that could help the US catch up. Feinberg saw

0:25:24.440 --> 0:25:28.040
<v Speaker 1>an opportunity. In a deal that wasn't announced, Cerberus acquired

0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:31.359
<v Speaker 1>the company. The rock was retrofitted with a test bed

0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:34.600
<v Speaker 1>between its twin fuselages that could be used to assess

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<v Speaker 1>hypersonic technology. By late twenty twenty one, Strata Launch had

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<v Speaker 1>secured funding from the Pentagon and partnerships with government contractors.

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<v Speaker 1>Company records obtained by BusinessWeek show the biggest opportunity, according

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<v Speaker 1>to the documents, a potential contract to develop a hypersonic

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<v Speaker 1>propulsion system offered by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency,

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<v Speaker 1>better known as DARBA. The company estimated it could be

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<v Speaker 1>worth while one hundred million dollars. Stratolaunch couldn't undertake that

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<v Speaker 1>task on its own, so it partnered with Aerojet Rocket Dyne,

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<v Speaker 1>a maker of solid rocket motors. According to the documents,

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<v Speaker 1>Aerojet was the only supplier of missile propulsion systems not

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<v Speaker 1>owned by one of the biggest contracting firms. After a

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<v Speaker 1>takeover attempt by Lockheed Martin in twenty twenty two was

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<v Speaker 1>blocked by the Federal Trade Commission, it was acquired by

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<v Speaker 1>L three Harris, becoming the aerospace company's rocket motor division.

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<v Speaker 1>An L three Harris spokeswoman said in an email that

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<v Speaker 1>the company regularly engages with a range of space and

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<v Speaker 1>missile companies to explore how we might support potential solutions,

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<v Speaker 1>and that the partnership with Stratolaunch didn't result in a contract,

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<v Speaker 1>but Feinberg's fascination with hypersonics would follow him into office.

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<v Speaker 1>In his Senate confirmation testimony, he mentioned the technology five times,

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<v Speaker 1>saying the US was under invested. If our enemy can

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<v Speaker 1>carry nuclear capability on things faster than ours, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a big problem. In January, the OSC announced

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<v Speaker 1>its first deal with the weapons maker since Feinberg took office,

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<v Speaker 1>a one billion dollar equity investment in L three Harris.

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<v Speaker 1>The funding is intended to help EL three Harris spin

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<v Speaker 1>off Aerojet Rocketdyne into a separate, publicly traded entity that

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 1>would give the government a stake in a rocket motor

0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 1>company that has partnered with Cerberus's Strata Launch. Parnell, the

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<v Speaker 1>Pentagon spokesman, declined to comment about how Stradlanch's relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>Aerojet was handled during the L three Harris transaction. Byron Callen,

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<v Speaker 1>a managing partner at Capital Alpha Partners, published a note

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<v Speaker 1>questioning why Lockheed or RTX didn't get funding given that

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<v Speaker 1>their missile interceptors and weapons are the primary customers in

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<v Speaker 1>this segment. And then there was the question of what

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<v Speaker 1>would happen to the government's stake in a public offering

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<v Speaker 1>or sale. How will conflicts of interest be avoided?

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<v Speaker 2>Callen asked.

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<v Speaker 1>Callen's concerns were echoed by others closer to the military.

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<v Speaker 1>One goal of equity investments is to broaden the base

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<v Speaker 1>of companies that work with the government, but the strategy

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<v Speaker 1>could have the opposite effect, warping partnerships and subcontracting relationships

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<v Speaker 1>around what military leaders are calling national champions. One former

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<v Speaker 1>Air Force officer who wasn't authorized to discuss the deal

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<v Speaker 1>called it collaboration pressure. Meanwhile, Strata Launch's star is rising.

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<v Speaker 1>Six months after Feinberg arrived at the Pentagon, the Department

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<v Speaker 1>issued a ninety million dollar contract to the company.

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<v Speaker 2>For air launched flight tests.

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<v Speaker 1>The money was granted through what is known as other

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<v Speaker 1>Transaction Authority, a less onerous contracting process designed to ease

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 1>startup's entry into the Defense department ecosystem. The deal helped

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<v Speaker 1>boost Stratlaunch's flight bookings, according to a Cerberus insider familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with the transaction. The same month, the Pentagon took a

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<v Speaker 1>stake in L three Harris. Stradlaunch announced its first investment

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<v Speaker 1>since the Cerberus acquisition, a significant capital investment from Elliott

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<v Speaker 1>Investment Management, the private equity firm run by Republican donor

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Singer. Feinberg's team doesn't dispute the effects of their

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<v Speaker 1>deal making. Edu head Cleatides, a Cerberus managing director before

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<v Speaker 1>becoming Remington CEO in twenty twelve, recently shared a LinkedIn

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<v Speaker 1>post by a mining executive. Sovereign backing is now a

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<v Speaker 1>competitive variable, the executive wrote. Companies with US equity participation

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<v Speaker 1>or debt guarantees will have easier access to off take

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<v Speaker 1>agreements permitting support and follow on institutional capital. Projects without

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<v Speaker 1>state alignment will face higher hurdles regardless.

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<v Speaker 2>Of grade or jurisdiction.

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<v Speaker 1>Feinberg has traveled along road to the upper echelons of

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump administration. His journey began a decade ago when

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<v Speaker 1>he and his wife donated about two point two million

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:53.280
<v Speaker 1>dollars to Trump affiliated groups in the twenty sixteen presidential race.

0:29:53.920 --> 0:29:57.240
<v Speaker 1>Trump named him to his Board of Economic Advisors and Wide,

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<v Speaker 1>giving him an opportunity to serve the administration in a

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<v Speaker 1>now national security role. Former Cerberus employees say he had

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<v Speaker 1>long expressed interest in being appointed Director of National Intelligence,

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<v Speaker 1>but an actual job took years to materialize. One hang

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<v Speaker 1>up was Feinberg's desire to keep his stake in Cerberus.

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<v Speaker 1>Divestment was a harder task for him than for other billionaires.

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<v Speaker 1>Many of Cerberus's competitors have gone public, not Cerberus. Feinberg,

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<v Speaker 1>as one internal management agreement puts, it, shall have the

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<v Speaker 1>full and complete authority to make all decisions relating to

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<v Speaker 1>the operation and management of the firm. The agreement also

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:38.880
<v Speaker 1>stated that his salary and bonus would continue until his death,

0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:41.720
<v Speaker 1>at which point it would go to his successors or

0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 1>his estate. Former Cerberus employees recall working late into the

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<v Speaker 1>night to get his affairs in order, only for Trump

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<v Speaker 1>to state at a February twenty seventeen press conference that

0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 1>he didn't think he'd need the billionaires services after all.

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<v Speaker 1>A solution came in twenty eighteen when Trump asked Feinberg

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<v Speaker 1>to head his Intelligence Advisory Board, a group that includes

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<v Speaker 1>members of the private sector. He wouldn't have to divest

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<v Speaker 1>his holdings. The board was a good fit for Feinberg,

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<v Speaker 1>who's long been fascinated by spycraft. It gave him access

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<v Speaker 1>to top secret intelligence and high ranking spies, among them

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:20.600
<v Speaker 1>David Rush, a CIA officer arrested this year after hoarding

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<v Speaker 1>about three hundred gold bars worth forty million dollars at

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:27.200
<v Speaker 1>his Virginia home. The New York Times reported in June

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<v Speaker 1>that Feinberg asked to work more closely with Rush on

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<v Speaker 1>a Chinese spying effort. A Pentagon spokesman told the paper

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<v Speaker 1>that Feinberg hadn't endorsed Rush for any career position. Feinberg's

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:41.680
<v Speaker 1>stint on the board alarmed him, according to a person

0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 1>advising him at the time, Amorphous threats posed by America's adversaries.

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<v Speaker 1>Things he'd heard about secondhand suddenly became concrete. Feinberg accelerated

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<v Speaker 1>his intelligence and national security investing. In twenty eighteen, his

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<v Speaker 1>nonprofit Tracking Foundation, which he seated with one hundred and

0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:03.480
<v Speaker 1>thirty million dollars, donated five million dollars to in Qtel,

0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:07.120
<v Speaker 1>the venture capital firm tied to the CIA. A few

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<v Speaker 1>years later, he went to in Qtel's office for a

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<v Speaker 1>presentation on a new technology. According to a person familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with the meeting, that sparked another revelation. The person says

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<v Speaker 1>the real opportunities for investors lay not in services companies

0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:25.800
<v Speaker 1>and arms purveyers, but in highly specialized technologies where early

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 1>movers would be able to fend off competitors. Tracker Capital

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:34.960
<v Speaker 1>placed bets on drones, AI, intelligence analysis, semiconductors, space thrusters,

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<v Speaker 1>and more, and in twenty twenty three, Feinberg hired former

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<v Speaker 1>in q Tel CEO Chris Darby to launch a venture arm,

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<v Speaker 1>Cerberus Ventures, which invested in DNA engineering, quantum computing parts,

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 1>and refrigerator systems to cool quantum systems, plus a company

0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 1>with plans to build a web browser for the national

0:32:53.880 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 1>security community with Cerberus Ventures. We're redefining national security, Darby's

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<v Speaker 1>said at the Milken Institute conference in May twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe energy assurance is national security, not just for

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, but for all countries. I think food

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 1>security is national security. I think productivity and safety are

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<v Speaker 1>national security. During Feinberg's nomination hearing, Tennessee Republican Senator Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Haggerty told a story about his time serving as ambassador

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<v Speaker 1>to Japan during Trump's first administration. Haggerty had learned Chinese

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<v Speaker 1>shipbuilders were eyeing a defunct shipyard in Subic Bay, a

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<v Speaker 1>strategically important port in the Philippines once the site of

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<v Speaker 1>the largest US overseas military installation. Government agencies were unable

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<v Speaker 1>to act, Haggerty said, so he turned to the next

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<v Speaker 1>best thing, Steve Feinberg and Cerberus. Cerberus acquired the yard

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty two. If Stephen's team had not stepped

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<v Speaker 1>up to solve the problem, the Chinese Communist Party today

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<v Speaker 1>would likely possess a vital piece of strategic infrastructure in

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<v Speaker 1>the South China Sea.

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<v Speaker 2>Haggarty said at the hearing whether that wager.

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<v Speaker 1>Would turn out to be an active, patriotic goodwill, a

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<v Speaker 1>financial home run, or both depended largely on what the

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<v Speaker 1>US military plan to do so. When discussion of an

0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:14.920
<v Speaker 1>investment in Subic Bay came up at a meeting early

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<v Speaker 1>in Feinberg's tenure at the Pentagon, it posed a dilemma.

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<v Speaker 1>According to two people familiar with the meeting, Department staff

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<v Speaker 1>suggested discussions take place at a venue where Feinberg wasn't present.

0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:29.320
<v Speaker 1>Feinberg nodded an assent, according to one of the people.

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<v Speaker 1>Since then, Subic Bay has become a focus of the

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<v Speaker 1>Pentagon's efforts to counter China. At a conference in May,

0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:39.799
<v Speaker 1>Kolotides said controlling ports was a key part of the

0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Pentagon's break it strategy to limit China's mobility, likening it

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<v Speaker 1>to tactics used by the British Empire. Cerberus has leased

0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:51.560
<v Speaker 1>the shipyard and is seeking to acquire more land. Trump

0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:54.880
<v Speaker 1>has promoted plans for a nearby munitions plant, and in

0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:58.400
<v Speaker 1>August Cerberus announced that the Korea Development Bank has plans

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<v Speaker 1>to facilitate investments in suppor court of Cerberus's broader maritime

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 1>strategy as part of the South Korean government's plans to

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<v Speaker 1>make American shipbuilding great again. No investments have been announced.

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<v Speaker 1>Frank Bruno, Cerberus's CEO, thanked the White House and heralded

0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:20.360
<v Speaker 1>South Korea's bold commitment to MASGA. Taken together, the developments

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 1>inextricably link Cerberus to the US military's resurgence in the Pacific.

0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 1>At a ceremony celebrating the partnership in September, South Korea's

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:32.160
<v Speaker 1>ambassador to the Philippines heralded a deal that married his

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 1>country's shipbuilding strength with Filipino skilled laborers. The US, he said,

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:42.720
<v Speaker 1>provides financial strength through Cerberus. Among Cerberus's tenants at Subic

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<v Speaker 1>Bay is SubCom, another Cerberus company. In April, Cerberus announced

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<v Speaker 1>it had restructured its deal with SubCom, which manufactures and

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:54.440
<v Speaker 1>lays undersea fiber optic cables for major US tech firms

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<v Speaker 1>and the federal government. The deal allowed Cerberus managed funds

0:35:58.360 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 1>to boost their controlling stake and hold it for longer.

0:36:02.120 --> 0:36:04.759
<v Speaker 1>Cerberus bought the company in twenty eighteen for about three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty million dollars. The new transaction valued at

0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:11.640
<v Speaker 1>five hundred and fifty percent higher at two point three

0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:16.920
<v Speaker 1>billion dollars. SubCom, the only US based undersea cable company,

0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:21.000
<v Speaker 1>is a major provider to the Pentagon. Many government contracts

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 1>aren't public. The information is withheld for national security reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>But as the Trump administration becomes more wary of foreign

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:32.480
<v Speaker 1>governments and companies, Subcom's home base advantage is more important

0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:36.280
<v Speaker 1>than ever, says Sunil Tagare, who has run subse cable

0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:39.360
<v Speaker 1>companies since the nineteen nineties and is now CEO of

0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:43.920
<v Speaker 1>California based Open Cables, which isn't a direct competitor. They

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<v Speaker 1>are most likely making a killing on their DoD contracts.

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<v Speaker 1>A SubCom spokesman said in an emailed statement that it

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<v Speaker 1>competes for government work on a non exclusive basis through

0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:58.560
<v Speaker 1>established procurement processes, and that it is first and foremost

0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:02.840
<v Speaker 1>a commercial company. Making money. Has remained front and center

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:06.320
<v Speaker 1>at Cerberus. When he was still at the company, Feinberg

0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:09.799
<v Speaker 1>told potential investors that the Supply Chain Fund's strategy of

0:37:09.840 --> 0:37:13.480
<v Speaker 1>building a more muscular national security state wasn't just good

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:17.640
<v Speaker 1>for America, but also for business. Two former Cerberus employees

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 1>say Darby has said the same. Make no mistake. Steve

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:25.879
<v Speaker 1>wants IRR and Moic Darby told the twenty twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>Milkin attendees using the abbreviations for internal rate of return

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<v Speaker 1>and multiple on investment capital. That has not changed. One

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:38.280
<v Speaker 1>of Finberg's interests when he was running Cerberus was countering

0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Chinese dominance in the telecommunications industry. As part of that strategy,

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<v Speaker 1>Cerberus invested in a small startup called Oran Development, which

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<v Speaker 1>was building new technology that would allow US communications companies

0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:55.160
<v Speaker 1>to be less reliant on hardware built overseas. Those were

0:37:55.200 --> 0:37:58.480
<v Speaker 1>big ambitions for a company that recently had only sixteen

0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:02.440
<v Speaker 1>employees listed on linked In, most of them based in India.

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<v Speaker 1>It was such a new kit on the block that

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<v Speaker 1>industry analysts BusinessWeek interviewed had never heard of it. Ed Gubbins,

0:38:09.640 --> 0:38:13.080
<v Speaker 1>principal analyst at research firm Global Data, pointed to a

0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:16.040
<v Speaker 1>press release from shortly after Trump won re election as

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:19.520
<v Speaker 1>some of the earliest evidence of the company's existence. That

0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:22.560
<v Speaker 1>announcement stirred a bit of a mystery because it was

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:25.840
<v Speaker 1>hard to find references to orin online, Gubbins wrote in

0:38:25.880 --> 0:38:29.080
<v Speaker 1>a note to clients last year. But four days after

0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Feinberg's appointment was confirmed, the investment was looking prescient. In

0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Nvidia announced it was leading a consortium developing a six

0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:42.560
<v Speaker 1>G network that would seamlessly connect hundreds of billions of phones, sensors, cameras, robots,

0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 1>and autonomous vehicles. The creation of such a network had

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<v Speaker 1>become a priority of the Defense Department, which believes an

0:38:49.680 --> 0:38:52.839
<v Speaker 1>AI native network could enhance its ability to track low

0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:57.319
<v Speaker 1>flying drones, surveill borders, and address other issues, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was an opportunity to make US companies not check nineese

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:05.160
<v Speaker 1>ones the future of wireless communications. Among Nvidia's partners are

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<v Speaker 1>t Mobile, Cisco, Booz, Allen Hamilton, and Oran Oran CEO

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<v Speaker 1>Vas Gudledana, who'd managed teams at telecommunications companies, says he

0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:20.000
<v Speaker 1>pitched Feinberg in twenty twenty three. Existing networks were inefficient

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:23.520
<v Speaker 1>and run on proprietary hardware that made supply chains vulnerable.

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<v Speaker 1>According to company slides Goodladana provided to BusinessWeek, information gathered

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<v Speaker 1>from cell towers had to go to data centers to

0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 1>be processed. Oran offered a future where AI powered analysis

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:38.439
<v Speaker 1>would be conducted at the cell towers themselves, which would

0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:42.520
<v Speaker 1>remain operational during outages. The company says its technology is

0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:46.600
<v Speaker 1>purpose built for the US government and national security. He

0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 1>immediately got it, Gudladana says of Feinberg's reaction, he said,

0:39:51.440 --> 0:39:56.240
<v Speaker 1>let's build this. Following an investment from Cerberus's supply chain fund,

0:39:56.600 --> 0:40:00.840
<v Speaker 1>executives got the company an audience within Nvidia formed a syndicate,

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:03.000
<v Speaker 1>not in a bad way, but in a good way,

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<v Speaker 1>Goodladanna says. Asked about the meeting with Oran, a spokesperson

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<v Speaker 1>for Nvidia said the company is proud to work with

0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:14.799
<v Speaker 1>a US led ecosystem racing to build open, secure communication systems.

0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:18.839
<v Speaker 1>The US government has supported the development of the technology

0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:22.400
<v Speaker 1>since twenty twenty three, when the Biden administration allocated one

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<v Speaker 1>point five billion dollars through the Chips Act. That funding

0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:30.600
<v Speaker 1>was routed through the National Telecommunications and Information Administration, but

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:34.440
<v Speaker 1>Congressional Republicans rescinded the funding in Trump's One Big, Beautiful

0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Bill and allocated new money for the effort to Feinberg's

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<v Speaker 1>Defense Department, run out of an office called Future g

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<v Speaker 1>Goodladana says, Oran has held meetings with the Department of

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<v Speaker 1>Homeland Security to discuss how its technology might be used

0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:51.480
<v Speaker 1>to surveil the US Mexico border. He sees a twenty

0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:55.400
<v Speaker 1>billion dollar market opportunity where governments can use the technology

0:40:55.400 --> 0:40:58.640
<v Speaker 1>for surveillance and defense, and coffee shops and fast food

0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:00.960
<v Speaker 1>restaurants can use it to push CO customers a coupon

0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 1>when they're close by, but the path to those billions

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:07.960
<v Speaker 1>goes through the Pentagon, he says. Future g and the

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<v Speaker 1>Department of War are supporting us and helping us in

0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 1>many ways, says Goodledanna, We know everyone on that team.

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<v Speaker 1>In March, the company announced it raised forty five million

0:41:18.480 --> 0:41:22.880
<v Speaker 1>dollars from investors, including many of its sixty partners, turning

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:25.680
<v Speaker 1>Cerberus's investment into another winner.