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Speaker 1: new episode of the Dave Damna Check Football Program CBS Sports.

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Speaker 1: Do you Around the NFL podcast are huge in Japan?

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room failed with heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. What's up boys, hey Dan? Well, at least

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Speaker 1: one of us is huge in Japan. Famously famously, I'm

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Speaker 1: more average sized than Japan, I Leo's say, whereas here

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Speaker 1: I'm small. That's true, that's true. You have you ever

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Speaker 1: noticed that money goes plural on the collective nouns and

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Speaker 1: it's per picked. He does it like the British deal,

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Speaker 1: and it never works. Alright, one of my big pet

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Speaker 1: peeves about the way journalists right in America. You brought

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Speaker 1: up pet peeves whilst I do have to bring up

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Speaker 1: a pet peeves. What's up? Please? Do you know? We

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Speaker 1: shot an NFL now hit yesterday and um Mark Is

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Speaker 1: He was somewhere within the building and then the internal monitors.

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Speaker 1: now hit and listen, I'm gonna I'm gonna be honest

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Speaker 1: with you. He put it up on Twitter and it

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Speaker 1: Mark's having some fun, you know. But then oh, Westling

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Speaker 1: are on display. And West as to himself, I like

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Speaker 1: this shot. I'm going wide with this. So Chris goes

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Speaker 1: onto his Instagram account, Bang sends it live. Then Daddy

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Speaker 1: Daddy goes to his settings, makes it his cover photo.

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Speaker 1: Well I did. That's the only way I put it

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Speaker 1: on Facebook. It's not like I just put it up

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Speaker 1: My point is that you you, to me one of

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Speaker 1: mesas I know that you have already can convinced yourself

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Speaker 1: of this narrative that you constructed. Can I have equal

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Speaker 1: time here to offer a rebuttal? Yes, but it seems

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Speaker 1: like a lot you've already quite a say in this.

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Speaker 1: I just want to say it was a little, to me,

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a I reject your la Ravio magnifico.

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Speaker 1: First of all, out of all the feedback I got back,

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Speaker 1: seven chins. It was not I thought a great shot.

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Speaker 1: And frankly, the background looks beautiful, the old green Ski

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna move on now because Greg's uncomes. He's like,

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Speaker 1: to say I haven't doing anything that Wes. You did

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Speaker 1: do you like that? I loved it. You know I

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Speaker 1: I have to do this. I have to do us.

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Speaker 1: It's time I must declare vengeance on you, Chris, for

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Speaker 1: what what you've done. What I will in the in

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Speaker 1: believe I look handsome and you're potentially blinking or unflattering shot. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and how good you were, how you were Eilan and

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Speaker 1: into a love sea. Once I declare avenger, I already

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Speaker 1: regret it. But once I declare a vengeance, I can't

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Speaker 1: She is a Mountain Rushmore member, and uh she came

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Speaker 1: Last seed, what's up? How much? Guys? How's it going good? Good? Good?

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Speaker 1: hard knocks come a little too much. Well, you know, education, bro,

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Speaker 1: whether Mermaids or dinosaurs were real, I'm going Mermaids every time.

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Speaker 1: believe in you on this, but this seems like will

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Speaker 1: be easier because like largely like cool ranch Dorito's. I

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Speaker 1: was thinking of, like I don't even know, I don't

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Speaker 1: even eat the chocolate or candy, so lots of rich

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Speaker 1: like chocolate, ice creams uh, like white bread and really

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Speaker 1: anything that I can find in our news when that's

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Speaker 1: sort of in a snack bin. Just that's freating that

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Speaker 1: all day long. Okay, I don't like white bread is

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Speaker 1: gonna get you sixty extra pounds that you at. White

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Speaker 1: bread is awful for your body. So what I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to do show down the entire digestive system and just

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Speaker 1: start stock can fats and excess weight over my entire body.

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Speaker 1: Have you out? I've done a lot of thinking about it.

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Speaker 1: Can I just say something to you, Mark, because you're

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Speaker 1: also in the circle. It's not easy to getting the

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Speaker 1: circle if you do still working that way in almost

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Speaker 1: if you um pull this off and we it ends

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Speaker 1: up where you end up on a bed in your

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Speaker 1: seven pounds and people have to come visit you because

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Speaker 1: you can't go to visit and then eventually die. I

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Speaker 1: would pull a Gilbert Grape situation and I'd burned down

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Speaker 1: the house so they wouldn't have to have the crane

447
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Speaker 1: come to take your body. Yet I I appreciate that that.

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Speaker 1: My end game is not that type of weight gain.

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Speaker 1: I just want to absolutely jumpy and walk off target.

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Speaker 1: You want to be at Remember Dan, Dan famously believed

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Speaker 1: in you with the p ninet X and you accused

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Speaker 1: you know the rest of us have not believing in Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just want to be out there. I believe in

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Speaker 1: you in terms of I like that. I think that's

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Speaker 1: easier for people to see as a trajectory. For for me,

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Speaker 1: I think both are balder dash. I didn't believe in

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Speaker 1: either of them. Okay, But no matter what happens, because

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Speaker 1: it maybe it gets away, gets away from you. I'm

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Speaker 1: not letting you crane take you out of here. But

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you burned that sucker to the ground.

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Speaker 1: Give your dignity if you don't have you you're gonna

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Speaker 1: burn my family's house to the ground. That's that's the

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Speaker 1: thank you. All right, it's time now, and this is

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Speaker 1: very strict. I will be clocking this. Sydney will be

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Speaker 1: watching it very closely. Around the majority of the a

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Speaker 1: f C and forty two minutes. We're gonna go through

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Speaker 1: the north, south and west and exactly forty two minutes.

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Speaker 1: And I'm serious about this. If we run out of time,

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Speaker 1: we will not finish the preview. That's it. There will

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Speaker 1: be teams, probably in the a f C West that

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Speaker 1: will get banged. Here. You don't want you don't want that.

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Speaker 1: Don't cross dan hands unless you want to start which

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Speaker 1: one unless you want to start with or put the

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Speaker 1: worst division last because that one could be banged or

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Speaker 1: my o, we're thinking it well, as long as we

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Speaker 1: move along at the three minute intervals, there's no chance.

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Speaker 1: If we're in the middle of the sentence, you move on.

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Speaker 1: Oh you wanted a horn? Okay, do we have a

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Speaker 1: horn Sydney. We're putting in Sydney on the Sydney. You

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Speaker 1: have three minutes to find a horn. You have your

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Speaker 1: own test right now? All right, we're about to start,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna begin with a the a f C

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Speaker 1: North and the Baltimore Ramands Mark. The Ravens have never

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Speaker 1: suffered double digit losses two years in a row during

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Speaker 1: the Joe Flacco John Harbaugh rain. Will this be the

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Speaker 1: first time that happens this season? I think if you

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Speaker 1: would have asked me in May or June, I would

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Speaker 1: have said, yes, that they could spiral out of control.

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Speaker 1: But I sort of like the way they're coming along

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Speaker 1: from the rookies on the offensive line look good. Ronnie

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Speaker 1: Stanley has been stellar in preseason, and I think their

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Speaker 1: defense is coming along a little bit better than I thought.

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Speaker 1: And Breshad Perriman looks like he's gonna play. Their injuries

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Speaker 1: are looking a lot better than they did in Well,

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Speaker 1: they're on the field practicing, But we don't know if

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Speaker 1: Terrell Suggs is Terrell sucks there. Steve Smith, Steve Smith,

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Speaker 1: what preside Pyramian is gonna be? So to me, it's

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Speaker 1: been positive, but you don't really know. This is the

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Speaker 1: team I'm curious to watch them. I wouldn't say they're

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Speaker 1: the most fascinating team in the league, but they're the

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Speaker 1: team where I don't know what I'm gonna see out

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Speaker 1: of them in September. I feel we were talking about

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Speaker 1: it this morning with me and Mark, like they could

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Speaker 1: be eleven wins or five wins and it wouldn't really

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Speaker 1: shock me either way. So they're well coached and a

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Speaker 1: lot of their losses last year were very close too.

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Speaker 1: Can I put what West just said? I believe in

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Speaker 1: their coach. I think that it's an underrated coach, John Harbaugh.

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Speaker 1: And you have Joe Flacco back, who's to me, not

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Speaker 1: the greatest quarterback, but a guy that's going to keep

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Speaker 1: the ship of float. He has never proved that he's

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Speaker 1: the type of guy that would truly let a team

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Speaker 1: go downhill. Cl I'm off with torn a c l

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Speaker 1: We'll see how he comes back from that. But I

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Speaker 1: think this team will be a little bit better than

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Speaker 1: people think. Maybe not back to the old Ray Evans,

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Speaker 1: but I think this could be a team that's in

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Speaker 1: playoff contention two years removed from an an FC championship

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Speaker 1: appearance against the Patriots with a two touchdown lead in

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Speaker 1: the second. But my problem is where is their pastorsh

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Speaker 1: I mean you have Terrell Suggs and Elvis Elvis Dumerville

522
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Speaker 1: are really getting up there in years, and then that

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Speaker 1: puts their secondary in a tough spot, and that is

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Speaker 1: an ugly secondary. They've had some bad secondaries occasionally. It

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Speaker 1: is a bad looking secondary on paper, with a lot

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Speaker 1: of injuries at cornerback. Matt Jude on fifth round defensive end,

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Speaker 1: has been their best defensive player in camp. I believe

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Speaker 1: he led all of college football in sacks last year

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Speaker 1: and looks really good as a pastor. They're gonna need

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Speaker 1: They're gonna need some of their young and and just

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Speaker 1: random secondary players too to step up because on paper

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Speaker 1: it's it's one of the worst defensive backfields in the

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Speaker 1: a f C. Wow, that's a lot of fun time

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Speaker 1: Terence West. There you go. Who do we think? Who

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Speaker 1: do we think leads them and carries Terence West? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I think they'll be fine on the back of the

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Speaker 1: it's unbelievable bad luck. How much bad luck. They have

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Speaker 1: a tight end though they've lost three tight ends last year,

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Speaker 1: they lost a couple more this year. Already we're gonna

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Speaker 1: move on to the Steelers. No, not that, No, that's

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Speaker 1: the wrong buzzer. Starry, get us going. How are the

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Speaker 1: Steelers considered the consensus favorites in this division, and they're

543
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Speaker 1: a team with so many questions. Mark Sammy Coates was

544
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Speaker 1: supposed to be the guy to replace Martevis Bryant. That

545
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Speaker 1: hasn't happened already. Burns was supposed to step in and

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Speaker 1: fix their cornerback problem. That's not happening. There's second round safety.

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Speaker 1: I believe his name is Sean Davis. I think he's

548
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Speaker 1: their nickel corner. Now. Yeah, I don't know about this

549
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Speaker 1: secondary being fixed. Why are they automatically considered the favorite.

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Speaker 1: I think because we just talked about coaching and consistency

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Speaker 1: in Baltimore. The Steelers have overcome in multiple season so

552
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Speaker 1: many issues and distractions and injuries and still wound up

553
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Speaker 1: being right on the doorstep of the playoffs. That's not

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs with one of the best quarterbacks of

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Speaker 1: a lifetime. I I don't I think they have the

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Speaker 1: ability to overcome some of this. I also am biased

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Speaker 1: into terms of looking at the Steelers and saying, I

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Speaker 1: assume they're just gonna be twelve and four, And you're right,

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Speaker 1: they have issues, but Mike Tomlin has guided them through

560
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Speaker 1: those issues before. But their defense I think was getting

561
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Speaker 1: better played pretty well towards the end of last season.

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Speaker 1: About the Broncos, and I think in terms of fixing

563
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Speaker 1: their secondary, I think the fix is really in their

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Speaker 1: front seven. That Jarvis Jones is better, showed a little

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Speaker 1: bit in the last preseason game. They think he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be better. That Ryan Shazier gets even better. That Stefan

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Speaker 1: to It and Cameron Heyward say the same thing about

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Speaker 1: their front seven last year. Yeah, and it didn't quite happen,

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Speaker 1: but the defensive line is very is very good. I

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Speaker 1: think that's a good front seven in terms of they

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Speaker 1: changed their scheme last year and it seems like a

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Speaker 1: caught on by the end of the year. They're They're

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Speaker 1: one of the teams in the league and of course

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Speaker 1: amongst the a f C contenders that are dead in

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Speaker 1: the water if their quarterback gets hurt and he hasn't,

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Speaker 1: Ben hasn't actually missed a lot of time, but he

577
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Speaker 1: seems to get hurt every year and he's getting older,

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Speaker 1: so I worry about that. What if he goes down again.

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Speaker 1: We saw what a mess they were last year, and

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Speaker 1: all the numbers that back up that that offense isn't

581
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Speaker 1: as explosive with out Martavis Bryant, who's not there all year.

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Speaker 1: That to me, I'm looking into are they going to

583
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Speaker 1: really be a team that's scoring thirty points a game?

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Speaker 1: One thing? I mean, I think had Briant been in

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Speaker 1: there and Levi on Bell without the suspension, we'd be

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Speaker 1: looking at the Steelers potentially as a record breaking type off.

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Speaker 1: So they still have the best triplet potentially in the

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Speaker 1: a f C. There's an answer. I think. I think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be fine. There's your answer, Chris, is that

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Speaker 1: you have a top five quarterback, you have a top

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Speaker 1: two or three wide receiver, and you have a top

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Speaker 1: two or three running back. Of course, there's some ifs.

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Speaker 1: You gotta keep everyone healthy, but that's the basis, along

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Speaker 1: with a pretty good offensive line overall. Uh, for a

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Speaker 1: team that's gonna put up points each week and win

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Speaker 1: double digit games. You worried about the Steelers. I just

597
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Speaker 1: don't think the division should be handed to them and

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Speaker 1: everyone and not just the division, but everyone's claiming that

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Speaker 1: they're right there with the Patriots. Is the class of

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Speaker 1: these that does happen to Pittsburgh? And you're right, I

601
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Speaker 1: see the Steelers is at least one level, maybe two

602
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Speaker 1: levels below. The Patriots move on to the Cincinnati Bengals

603
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Speaker 1: and the buzzer. That's all you guys like the buzzeran

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Speaker 1: This entire segment in general is you're struggling with so

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Speaker 1: it makes sense that the sound effect has ill effects

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Speaker 1: on you. You know, I love Andy Dalton, uh and

607
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Speaker 1: I stuck by him for years and years. I don't

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Speaker 1: have a great feeling about Andy this year, and I

609
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: think losing a lot of those weapons and people are

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Speaker 1: excited about Uh Tajh Boyd and Tyler. Tyler Boyd. Tajh

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Speaker 1: Boyd is the guy that he Evans picked to be

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Speaker 1: the Jets quarterback a couple of years ago. Um, so

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Speaker 1: did Rex Ryan. So no he didn't. They cut him

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Speaker 1: after like four weeks. But what my point is, I'm

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Speaker 1: just keep it real, Jill, Let's keep two more minutes. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm I'm a little nervous that that Andy

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Speaker 1: Dalton crashes down to earth no tight end for at

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Speaker 1: least six weeks. Who knows of Tyler Eifford's gonna be

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Speaker 1: the same guy when he gets back. Still got a

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Speaker 1: j green This offense, which really did uh play its

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Speaker 1: part while the defense did its usual strong work. If

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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton really comes down to earth, I don't think

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Speaker 1: they tumble. But this could be a team that is

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Speaker 1: again another nine win team. If Dalton regresses and I

625
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Speaker 1: got a bit of assessed with that he does well.

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Speaker 1: I think when you saw at Clemson when Taj Boyd

627
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Speaker 1: had DeAndre Hopkins, Sammy Watkin and Marta still couldn't be

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Speaker 1: more than the Jets quarterback. Oh I thought we heard

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Speaker 1: this segment? Did I? Did I say that again? Oh? Okay,

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Speaker 1: that was a good one. Go thank you. Yes, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why we're all handwringing about Andy Dalton.

632
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Speaker 1: I don't. We're not over this yet. I thought I

633
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Speaker 1: got pasted this. It's a small sample size, but he

634
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Speaker 1: played quite a bit against the Jaguars on Sunday night,

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Speaker 1: and he looked like last year's Andy Dalton to me,

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Speaker 1: you know, sometimes when players developed, they keep the lessons

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Speaker 1: that were taught to him. And just because Hugh Jackson

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00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: isn't in the building doesn't mean that everything that was

639
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: instilled is gone. Andy Dalton to me looks like I

640
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: has gotten over some of the hiccups of the total

641
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: about face and this is a team and I have

642
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: them as a playoff team that survives injuries as well

643
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: as any team in the league because they've built up

644
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: such a great roster. This is a team. If it

645
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: was any other team this preseason, we'd be talking about

646
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: how they've been devastated with injuries. Really six or seven

647
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: key players, not just Iffort, but Iffort's main backup, not

648
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: just one second year tackle, but their top two picks

649
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: from a year ago are both in your Dark West

650
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: Dinards like, and yet when you look at who fills

651
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: in for them, they always figure it out. At this point,

652
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: I trust in these Bengals to at least be winning

653
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: games and be a playoff type of team. And I

654
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: think Dalton's made a big enough leap that he'll survive.

655
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: There's there are very few teams I trust more. From

656
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: September through the end of December. Good back. I mean,

657
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: when you say Pittsburgh is potentially gonna get unseated, it

658
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: has to be the Bengals you're talking about, not the Ravens.

659
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: I could see the To me, the Ravens have the

660
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: widest range of outcome in the entire NFL. Greg the

661
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. What an upset I got the Cleveland Browns

662
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: and good that I did. I gotta say, and I

663
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: want to throw this to the other two uh non

664
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: Browns fans in the room, just to start. For the

665
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: first time in a long time, I'm excited to watch

666
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: some Cleveland Brown's offensive football. They're not gonna be good

667
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 1: on defense, but maybe that makes their games even more

668
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: exciting that there's some high scores. I mean, especially when

669
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: Josh Gordon gets back. Are you guys with me that

670
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: this is gonna be kind of a fun team that

671
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: r G three. Maybe he's not gonna be what he

672
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: wants was, but it'll be better. No, no, no, no.

673
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: They're probably in the bottom five offenses. I want to watch.

674
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: I want to watch, really, I want to watch Corey Coleman.

675
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 1: Outside of that, what about Josh Gordon and Terrell prior

676
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 1: the Twin Towers I got outside Gary Barnage Britta's finest.

677
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 1: I gotta wait a month for Josh Gordon and Cal Pryor.

678
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: I believe is a mirage. I don't believe he's still

679
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: gonna be catching fifty yard passes every week. Still fun

680
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 1: to watch, maybe when he does well. Also, I think

681
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: r G three is gonna be injured by the in September,

682
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm not really I don't know why we

683
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: insist on And to me, it's a little condescending to Mark,

684
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: like we have to playcate him by acting like the

685
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: Browns are gonna be fun every year. I don't Before

686
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: last season I said they had the worst roster in

687
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: the entire NFL. Can I just say that. I think

688
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: part of it is I don't think it's being condescending

689
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: to Mark. I think it's there's a bit of an

690
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: NFL trope out there now that there's an excitement about

691
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 1: the Browns at all times, because one of the big

692
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: stories that that around the NFL is when will the

693
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: Browns finally get their act together? And I think the

694
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: Calves have now played into that a little bit. So

695
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: anything that good happens to the Browns, even in a

696
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: preseason game, gets kind of blown up now into whoa,

697
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: maybe things are finally changing, or Hugh Jackson get a hired,

698
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: Oh they finally got the right catch the coach. There's

699
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: a lot of optimism maybe when they're it's it's a

700
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 1: little overly optimistic around this team. At times they are changing,

701
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: and the evidence of that is that they've stockpiled Harsha

702
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: Walker level draft picks over the next two years. I

703
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: don't know that we need to see the Browns blow

704
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: the doors off anybody on offense this year. I think

705
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 1: if they hit on Corey Coleman and he's a difference maker,

706
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: that's where your step begins, and then the next two drafts.

707
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: But I think I would just preach patients. You've got

708
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,919
Speaker 1: five fun, skill position players with a good offensive coach,

709
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 1: that's all well, and you don't have five good linemen.

710
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: I'm the biggest concern watching the Browns in the preseason

711
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: is both their lines and but their offensive line. I

712
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: agree with you. Quarterbacks are potentially sitting duck territory back there,

713
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: and how long can RG three last. They don't have

714
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: a running game. For what I see, I think it's

715
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: it is patients. They are committed to their plans to

716
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: win many games. But I'm more interesting from boring and

717
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: bad last year. Yeah, and under Ray Farmer, it was

718
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: let's get as many five ft eight wide receivers as

719
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: we can and pose no threat through the air. So

720
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: they're trying something new. I do think they have an

721
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: offensive minded coach with some pedigree for the first time

722
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: and since so there are the seeds of hope. I

723
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't get your hopes up for this season. WHOA make

724
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: you happy? I mean, it's different, It's not exactly what

725
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: I'm looking for. All right, Let's before we move on

726
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: to the a f C South. Our prediction is now

727
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: for the North Division. Mark Well, I'm gonna go Pittsburgh

728
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: number one. I'm gonna go Cincinnati a close second, Baltimore

729
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: middle of the pack, third in Cleveland and deep fourth.

730
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: I guess I'm gonna go against my own question here.

731
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick didn't you fill out that forum for

732
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: NFL dot com where you have to pick the division? Two?

733
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: Do you pick for that? I think the Steelers. I

734
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 1: don't know. To me, there's no obvious favorite. I'll go

735
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: Steelers slightly over the Bengals. Ravens are about a five

736
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: hundred team in Browns win four games, so we're we're

737
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: kind of picking this division to be the same as

738
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: last year. I'm the exact same as you guys. I

739
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: ended up going with the Steelers because I didn't want

740
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: to beat the one year that I picked the Steelers

741
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: every year for like ten years, so it'd be insane

742
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: to not pick them one didn't be wrong. Uh, Steelers

743
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 1: eleven and five, Bungles Tenants six, maybe a playoff spot

744
00:37:55,520 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: Ravens eight mate Cleveland four and twelve, but some progress

745
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: a little more fun to watch, immense progress four wins.

746
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: Um All right, final thoughts on the a f C

747
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: North Mark cessil, I have no more thoughts. All right,

748
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: Let's now move on to the a f C. Sad

749
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: Mark tell us about the Jaguars. Alright, January. It is

750
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: January second, in Sonny, Jacksonville. Is Gus Bradley in his

751
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: office preparing for the a f C wild Card game?

752
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: Or is he thirty five miles east of Texas while

753
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: moving his family cross country amid rumors that H G

754
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: H fuel Tom Coughlin is about to return to his

755
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: roots and take over the Jags. Basically, is Gus Bradley

756
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 1: took it to the limit? Is Gus Bradley preparing for

757
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: a playoff game in the Jags are success? Or is

758
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin gonna be He will not be fifty nine

759
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: miles the Jacksonville. He'll be in Jacksonville preparing for that

760
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: playoff game. Do you think it's happening? I do. I

761
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: think you know this, we're gonna predict at the end.

762
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna win this division. I don't think

763
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: it's gonna be who cares? We can just why why

764
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: hold back? Uh, it's not gonna be a much improved division.

765
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: It's gonna be more fun to watch division. But I

766
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna take more than nine or ten

767
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: wins to win this division. I do think Jacksonville is

768
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: gonna make good on on all this excitement. They better

769
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: because I'm going to be legitimately annoyed if the Jaguars

770
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: go four and twelve again, because this has been a long,

771
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: a long off season of hype around the Jaguars being

772
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: strong on both sides of the ball, and how Blake

773
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 1: Bortles is new new Ben Roethlisberger and everything is clicking

774
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: now and Gus Bradley is a guy they should. They

775
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: were right to stick by give me something, do not

776
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: make me deal with this. And the only great thing

777
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 1: that came out of this offseason was Jack's Lady. Certainly

778
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 1: not the first year we took it to the limit.

779
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: I disagree with almost everything Gregg says. I think it's

780
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: a tangibly improved division overall, and I think the Jaguars

781
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: will have to wait a year because Blake Bortles hasn't

782
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: learned how to wing yet still makes way too many

783
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: mistakes with the game on the line, and I think

784
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota will not be making those mistakes with the

785
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: game on one. I think I think there a team

786
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: that's gonna have wild ups and downs. There's gonna be

787
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: parts in the season where we all say this team

788
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: looks unbelievable, and parts of the season where we think

789
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: it's over and that they're going in the can. They

790
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 1: just seem like one of those topsy turvy type of teams.

791
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: But it would stun me if they their defense was

792
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: so bad. I don't think people remember how bad their

793
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: defense was last year, and their defensive talent now is

794
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: is top ten talent. If they're just average, that the

795
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: the offense just needs to be a little better than

796
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: average in the one nine ten games. I give David

797
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 1: Caldwell the GM credit for if this is their last

798
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: season to stick around and prove something, they went for

799
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: it with the acquisitions in the free agency cash. I

800
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: mean they are going to make an attent If it

801
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. It is on Fowler in got way, Um,

802
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: you know Malik Jackson, Jared Oddrick, that everyone in the secondary,

803
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey just it just feels like there's so many

804
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: some any people. And then Allen Robinson's and known commodity.

805
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: I think yelled In and Ivory are basically known commodities,

806
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: like probably the most improved roster from top to bottom

807
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: in the league. Ah, that wrong answer. By what we're

808
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: back to that Houston Texans West Houston Texans. I believe

809
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: last year had one of the slowest offenses in the league.

810
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: And now, as we've heard Greg say, they only have

811
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: two starters returning on offense, have they gone from one

812
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: of the worst offenses to one of the best offenses

813
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: in the NFL? H m hmm. I'm gonna say no

814
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: until you know Dwayne Brown is back, which we don't

815
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: know when that's gonna be. Derek Newton de right tackle,

816
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: we don't know when he's gonna be back, and I

817
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: think it's gonna take time. I think it right, and

818
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: they lose their center for this team, I think in

819
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: a best case scenario, this team improves a lot down

820
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: the second half. In the second half of the season,

821
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: but they're bumpy early. I like that the stress was

822
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: on getting faster, and that's modern NFL offenses to me.

823
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 1: It boils down. There's a lot of nice parts around

824
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: brock Osweiler, and he had what one good preseason outing

825
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: and and really uninspiring two other showings, and now the

826
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: bullets start flying in Week one. I'm not sure that

827
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: I trust brock Osweiler as a sixteen games starting quarterback.

828
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: If he proves to be a different guy than he

829
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 1: was from much of last season with the Broncos, then

830
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: I liked this offense a lot. I don't know if

831
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: it's the most improved offense, because I would go with

832
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: Lamar Miller. Is is a is a big help too

833
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: on the ground game. I just the Texans are suddenly

834
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: in a much better division, I think m I mean

835
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: their offense. It wasn't good last year, but it wasn't

836
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: one of the worst five offenses in the league. It

837
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 1: was that was good coaching. It was worse than average.

838
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 1: You're right, and maybe good coaching now makes what's good

839
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: talent look a lot better. I've been impressed out quickly

840
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: Will Fuller and Braxon Miller stepped right in there. And

841
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: so that's a Rick Smith trademark in Houston that his

842
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: first second round draft picks play right off the bat.

843
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: But Miller, especially a guy who's you know, changed positions

844
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: not too long ago, it stepped in there. He looks

845
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: like a slot receiver. He looks like a good player,

846
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: Yes he does. I see more chemistry between Osweiler in

847
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: in Fuller than I do Osweidler in Hopkins. At this

848
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: point it was it was, by the way NFL Network

849
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: top five QB ratings in the preseason, this man was on. Yes,

850
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: that means he's real. I am a little bit nervous about. Um,

851
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 1: what West stay with the center position in that offensive

852
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: line is? Is that gonna hurt my Lamar Miller breakout

853
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: season now makes a little nervous about a little bit nervous,

854
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: But I will stay strong. I still believe this is

855
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: a seventeen hundred total yard season taking in the top

856
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 1: three fantasy drafts a year from now. I'm not backing

857
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: down Greg, Okay, I mean and if if Jadeveon Clowney

858
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 1: breaks out like we think he can, him and Watt

859
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: are the best one to combination in the entire league.

860
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: Easy question. Is Andrew Luck banged Wes No. And here's

861
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: what I would say. It's a Greg Rosenthal staple that

862
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: when everybody in the country agrees on something, everybody in

863
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: the football world agrees on something, it's not gonna go

864
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: that way. And everyone right now agrees that Andrew Luck

865
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: has banged. The Colts offensive line is a mess, their

866
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: defense has no talent. In the past week, since the

867
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles turned their offensive line into a turnstyle, everybody

868
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: has said the Cults are banged, their offense is terrible.

869
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: And I think I would just I would appeal to

870
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: the Greg Rosenthal staple here, so the idea go the

871
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: other direction, because at the end of the day, there

872
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 1: are uh some good skill players, they're great skill players

873
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 1: and potentially all time great quarterback. That's enough to carry

874
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: the day here. Also, is the offensive line really any

875
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: worse than it was two years ago when they were

876
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship game. I don't know. Well, that's

877
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: the thing. He had always Luck in his first four

878
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: years or three years, had always may do with what

879
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: he had around him and made these teams not just

880
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: playoff teams with winning playoff games. Last year, I think

881
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: he earned the right to kind of throw that out.

882
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't he go back to being the guy that

883
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: just carries a mediocre team. Well, last year he took

884
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: a pounding and missed a massive chunk of the season.

885
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: So how long does the body continue to sustain these shots?

886
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been hit as much as any quarterback

887
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: in the league outside of what Blake portles. I mean,

888
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: it's how long? How what do you expect me to

889
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: the one man show? Well? I I think Andrew Luck

890
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: could have a good season, and it could be obvious

891
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: to our eyes, if not monster numbers, that he's playing

892
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: really well. But I do think the defense that the

893
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: Colts had for a couple of years under Brogano is

894
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: better than the defense than they had now. They weren't good,

895
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 1: but they were average. I mean, this is a team

896
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: that ranked in the in the middle of the pack

897
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, ninth in points allowed yards.

898
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: Last year they were among the worst, and I think

899
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: they've gotten a lot worse on paper. So this could

900
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: be a defense that's in the body three four defenses

901
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: in the league. And then even if Andrew Luck is

902
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: playing well, you might not be winning many games. I

903
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: just don't like how this team is constructed. And when

904
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: you have the gift of Andrew Luck and you've had

905
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: that for years at this point, and you've not improved

906
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: the way the team around him is built. I I

907
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 1: don't like that. I think the other teams in the

908
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 1: Nancy South are catching up. It's tough because people are

909
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: You're right, we're watching the preseason. I'm changing my pick

910
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: partly based on what's gone on this month. So I'm

911
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: going along with the crowd in this case, and we're

912
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: basing on a team that was missing their top four cornerbacks,

913
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: but one of them, the big, the big one, Vante Davis,

914
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: isn't coming back for a month. And even when he

915
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 1: comes back, that's a tough injury to come back from.

916
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: To Mark's point about this roster, remember the old Michael

917
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: Lombardi blue player, red player. Yes, how many blues are

918
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: on the rosters Andrew Luck, that's Donte Moncrief, could be

919
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 1: t Y Hilty, They're not Dante Moncrief isn't right now,

920
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: it could be thought Davis. It's it's still player heavy

921
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 1: and not heavy where it matters. Very few above average

922
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: starters on this right. Who's what's the level below blue.

923
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: I think it's red blue and red red chip, red chip.

924
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: That's better. That's the problem is they don't even have

925
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: any red chips. Their defense is a bunch of rust

926
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: colored poop chips. That's the question. Is he banged a

927
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: lot of poop around him? Now? The Titans, Oh, the

928
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. West's team. I'm gonna just make it obvious.

929
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: Is this gonna be the team of a t O?

930
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: What do we think? Because I'm I'm kind of on

931
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: board now, let's actually I'm gonna stop the clock one

932
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: second here seven heard it in a while? See, Oh,

933
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: this is a very special higher I mean, the team

934
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: of West t L every year. What a tradition. I like.

935
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: I like about three or four they've I'm convinced. I'm

936
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: excited Mariotta Sharp, especially Derrick Henry. Uh. Maybe Mike Malarkey

937
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: doesn't ruin this thing. Could we've even vote on him

938
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: right now? It's imprompted you would think of it before

939
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: the season. Let's give it a week or two. But

940
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: I would vote for them because my philosophy with team

941
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: of a t L, which is not happened up till now.

942
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: And I'm fine with that for the most part is

943
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: that I want a weird team that could maybe be good,

944
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: but maybe not be good. I don't need it to

945
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 1: be a fifteen and one juggernaut that we know is

946
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: going to go to the NFC Championship, not just not

947
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 1: how I vote team of a t L. So I

948
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: would vote for Titans, yes, because they're weird and interesting.

949
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: Much like the American flag means a lot of different

950
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: things to a lot of different people, the team of

951
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 1: a t L means different things to different people. I

952
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: always thought it meant getting ahead of the curve as

953
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: the primary thing. I just thought it'd be a team

954
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: that I want to enjoy rooting. I'm closer to that,

955
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of with you. I'd like a weird team.

956
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: I think the defense might be bad to mediocre, though,

957
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 1: which is a problem. I just want to make Wess happy.

958
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: Thank you. I think this is happy. These just off

959
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: pod life off. It's it's all going as we saw

960
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: on Facebook and bodies banging um. So they have a

961
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: bad defense and Malarkey's their coach. I just want to

962
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: throw these things out of here before we dive in

963
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 1: with two feet into what a matrimony. I think it's

964
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: a bad defense. It's certainly not why we'd be picking

965
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: them for Team of a TL. Their offense is interesting

966
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: and could be a time possession clock chewing back. There

967
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: another option quarterback. They feel a little eat more conventional

968
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: at this point, but I think they're gonna be fun

969
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: to watch. You can't deny that Blake Boards is fun

970
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: to watch. I'm not going to stump for the Titans yet,

971
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: because at this stage of the game it should be organic.

972
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 1: All four of us should be agreeing that this. We're

973
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: so excited about the Titans that we're gonna do it.

974
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 1: We're not there yet, I understand, but we have positive

975
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: signs their defense. That's fine. But I don't think anybody's

976
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: claiming that the team of a t L has to

977
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 1: be a super Bowl contender right now. Ever, Wes is ready,

978
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: we'll do it if if they're in the mix. I mean,

979
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: that's that's life about that's life with West. This narrative

980
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: is outrageous. This one bothers was well, I was this

981
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: former girlfriends know it. When West is ready, that's you know,

982
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: that's what it happened. That's when it happened that I

983
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: don't even know where I don't even know what that

984
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:53,919
Speaker 1: means either. Huh, it meant nothing? What did that? Man?

985
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: It didn't actually make sense. Okay, all right, let's pick

986
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: the division. Mark. I'm at such a loss with this division.

987
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: It's so crazy. But um, I am going to no.

988
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: I just I was. I've read shuffled the Order like

989
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: thirty times, and I'm prepared to be completely wrong. But

990
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: I'm going with Jaguars is my division winner. I don't

991
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: think any of these teams have a great record. I

992
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: think Titans, Texans, Cults after that, wow, Jags. Okay, I'm

993
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: going Tennessee Titans take the division. And the reason why

994
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: is because Marcus Mariotta becomes on Andrew left Lux level

995
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: as a quarterback this year and he has better surrounding

996
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: talent than Andrew Luck. Titans, Jaguars, Texans, Coult. You just

997
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,439
Speaker 1: made the argument that the Colts aren't banged. I said

998
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: Andrew Lux not banged. That was the question that was asked. Okay,

999
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: what kind of what kind of first place team? Do

1000
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: you think? The division so much better? Like ten wins leven.

1001
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna beat each other up. I don't

1002
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: think it's the record's going to be indicative of it. Yeah,

1003
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any three and thirteen team in

1004
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 1: this division anymore. I think I think the Colts can

1005
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: finish in Land. So the seven and nine or eight

1006
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: and eight. Um, I have Houston defending their crown at

1007
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 1: ten and six, Tennessee at nine and seven, and and

1008
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: yes going in the right direction, the jack seven and nine,

1009
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,720
Speaker 1: and I think Indy will kind of crumble and they'll

1010
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: clean house go six and ten. I was on the

1011
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: Colts all offseason. I thought that Andrew Luck will rise

1012
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 1: and just carry them in a in a lackluss year division.

1013
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 1: I let I'm letting the preseason affect me. So I'm

1014
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: making Jacksonville one. I'll keep the Colts at number two.

1015
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll just fall apart. Titans third, and

1016
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 1: uh the Texans going first. So you're gonna go with

1017
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: a team that is going to be in third place.

1018
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: But I think they'd be a fun seven win team.

1019
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. All right. Let's move finally to

1020
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: the A finally to the A f C West. We'll

1021
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: start with the Chiefs. Mark bear with me here. No

1022
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: team in the league can win ten games in a

1023
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: row and still be seeing universally as a non Super

1024
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: Bowl threat by the NFL's Illuminati esque power elite, no

1025
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: team except the Chiefs. Will anything change this season for

1026
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: Andy Reid? Or will he continue to be fodder for

1027
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,720
Speaker 1: snarky jokesters who enjoy ribbing him for his sublogical clock

1028
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: management and insane utility belt over red Parker outfits at

1029
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: way too sunny Arrowhead Stadium. Can this year's version of

1030
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: the Chiefs honestly be anything more than in ten and

1031
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: six Cadre that blows up hardcore in January? Can we

1032
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: not debate and just have you read that over and

1033
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: over again for three minutes? That was too much. I

1034
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: love the description of Andy Reid and also the snark.

1035
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 1: What was it? The snark because it really describes people

1036
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,919
Speaker 1: talking about Mike Malarkey well in his like utility belt

1037
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 1: that he wears a giant Yeah you, by the way,

1038
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: you still the one making fun of Mike Malarkey in

1039
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: the past. You just happen to like his quarterback. Now

1040
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: that's not true. Oh yeah, you're harried Mike Malarkey. Yeah,

1041
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: you're running down throwing parades for that Falcon's offense. We're

1042
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: gonna hear it from Chiefs fans if we talked the

1043
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: whole time. Yeah, that that two thousand Chiefs fans calmed down,

1044
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: all right, So the cliffs notes of that market. Are

1045
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: the Chiefs any better than tenant six? Are they just

1046
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: the same team that they were? They won ten games

1047
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: the row. You know, they will be the same type

1048
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: of team and that may be enough to win a

1049
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: strange division. I like the Chiefs. I like that they're

1050
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: kind of you know, they went on a ten or

1051
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: eleven game winning streak last year, won a playoff game,

1052
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 1: and nobody's talking about them. That seems like a nice

1053
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: place to be in. We just were talking about the

1054
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: other day. Is Alex Smith set up to have an

1055
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 1: Alex Smith career year? That sounds like good news. I

1056
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: think they have a great coach and a great home

1057
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: field advantage. Yeah, the Chiefs can do it. I think

1058
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: he is. I'm a little I think they are can

1059
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: be better. I think this is the year where people

1060
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: stop being snarky and give them a little grudging respects

1061
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: are getting real before getting back to snarky next year

1062
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: or something, before they start giving them some respect. That

1063
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: that Andy Reid has maximized this team uh and made

1064
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: them look as good as he could, and especially on offense,

1065
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: I think they're set up for a nice season. Agree

1066
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: Alex smith career year the best offense Andy Reads in

1067
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: Kansas City and maybe the best offense he's had since

1068
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 1: Donovan McNab's prime. I think the Chief's offense will be

1069
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: much better. I think the defense takes a step back

1070
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: with Justin Houston status up in the air, might miss

1071
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: the whole season. They have to be ready for that.

1072
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: They lose Sean Smith. I know Marcus Peters could become

1073
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 1: the next great NFL cornerback. He might already be there,

1074
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: and if he's a superstar level talent, that changes a

1075
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: lot of things with you. I think, like if I

1076
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 1: don't like the way the cults are built, I do

1077
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: like what has happened in Kansas City that they've stuck

1078
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: to their philosophy. A lot of people aren't impressed with

1079
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: Alex Smith overall. It's not just Alex Smith's team. There's

1080
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: a lot of other parts around him. They feel like

1081
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: a team to me that's gonna go to the a

1082
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: f C Championship potentially as a ceiling, you know, destination

1083
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: and lose. Yeah, which is which is a step forward?

1084
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: By the way, that's not a slight on the Chiefs,

1085
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: and I think, Spencer, where's a guy you really need

1086
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: to be taken in drafts? I thought that last week.

1087
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: Now I really think it now that Charles doesn't look

1088
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: great and he he's a heck of a running back,

1089
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: and their defensive line is as underrated as any group,

1090
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 1: especially with your boy Chris Jones San Diego Chargers Chris Wesling. Uh,

1091
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: I have to come up with a question here. Huh Okay,

1092
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: that's the exercise. Joe Ibosa joins the defense and already

1093
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: has Denzel Perriman in a secondary which Jason Barrett does

1094
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: not get nearly enough publicity as a young up and

1095
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: coming cornerback who is shadowing number one receivers when we're

1096
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 1: making the leap with those three guys at each level

1097
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: of the defense, is this now the second best defense

1098
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: in the f C West behind the Broncos because the

1099
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: Chiefs were one of the best defenses in the NFL

1100
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: last year. The Raiders, they have some intriguing talent. This

1101
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: this is a big drop off from Denver though right

1102
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 1: there a good defense, but not a great defense. That's

1103
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: up to you to decide, I think, but do you

1104
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: think they have great potential? I do think they have

1105
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,919
Speaker 1: much better potential than the most people believe. I think

1106
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 1: John Pagano has slid by with some mediocre to disappointing

1107
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: seasons as their defensive coordinator without getting a lot of attention.

1108
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: But I generally kind of like what he does. He's

1109
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 1: very creative, and I'm with you. I think the talent

1110
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 1: level is there to be the second, but I think

1111
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: there's second most talented defense in the division. I think

1112
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: it's it's one of the hardest of visions and football

1113
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: to be the second best defensive team unless you are

1114
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: very very good on defense, and I would put them

1115
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 1: more third up and coming because the Chiefs and I

1116
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: don't see the Broncos taking a step back on defense

1117
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 1: despite some of the losses. The Chiefs, to me, justin

1118
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: Houston aside, have parts at every level. And let's not

1119
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: forget about the Raiders. The Raiders secondary has improved. They

1120
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: have players at every level too, So it's I don't

1121
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: think that's an automatic second. I'd go lower. They were

1122
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: so banged up last year on the offensive line. They

1123
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: have good continuity. I don't think they're terrible players on

1124
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 1: the offensive line. And now you've got Keenan Allen back,

1125
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: Travis Benjamin looks good. I like this guy. Tyrelle Williams

1126
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: looks pretty good in the preseason as their third receiver.

1127
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: Maybe they won't miss Stevie Johnson. You got Melvin Gordon,

1128
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: and you have the Philip Rivers. Hey, it's I need

1129
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: to make a run for the Super Bowl run that

1130
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: Tony Romo is not gonna apparently have this year. It's

1131
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers that Now Philip Rivers was gonna have more

1132
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: children so he could raise an offensive line too. That

1133
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: would be awesome, Like a sixty seven year old Philip

1134
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: Rivers with the bunch of twenty seven year old sons.

1135
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: Football story that would be You would have to call

1136
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: that offensive line the moat Rivers. I like that. See,

1137
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: I get him, I get him? Uh anything else on

1138
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:20,439
Speaker 1: the Chargers. Man, Well, let's move on. Let do whatever

1139
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: you want in this world. You know what I'm saying.

1140
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: And let me say this. This is gonna be kind

1141
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: of a strong man for us, because I know how

1142
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: you feel about this. But I'll set it up and

1143
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: you can knock it down. Couldn't close John, I would

1144
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: couldn't close the procost Wilder and got away. All right,

1145
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: Maybe I didn't want to pay him, that's fine. So

1146
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: then he targeted a veteran to hold the fort. Targeted

1147
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: the wrong guy. Mark Stitches did not work out at all,

1148
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: to the point where he might not have to make

1149
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: the team. Drafted guy in Paxton Lynch. We'll see how

1150
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: that plays out, but not a guy that's gonna be ready,

1151
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: at least not right now. And now a defending Super

1152
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: Bowl champion is being piloted by Trevor Simeon and everybody's

1153
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: talking themselves into this guy now. But there's a good

1154
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: chance he's a disaster. So I ask you this, does

1155
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: John Elway deserve some grief for defending an NFL title

1156
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: with this type of situation at quarterback? If you're asking me, no,

1157
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: he deserves no grief whatsoever. And I don't have any

1158
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,919
Speaker 1: issue with anything he did. Peyton Manning could not play

1159
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: football anymore. I don't think that John Elway should have

1160
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: enticed him back. I didn't say that that shouldn't. Well

1161
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: let's start, Well, you have to cover all these angles,

1162
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 1: brock Osweiler. I don't think it's worth nearly an amount

1163
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: of money that Houston paid him. And I don't think

1164
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: it's unrealistic to believe that Trevor Simmeyon can have a

1165
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: better year than brock Osweiler will this year. So I

1166
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: have no issue with anything John Elway did. I'm in

1167
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: lock step with West because I think the amount of

1168
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: money they would have invested in brock Osweiler and what

1169
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna get from Trevor Simeon, he's gonna look great.

1170
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: Pay what you pay brock Osweiler. Your defense isn't as good,

1171
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: at least in fairness state that. It's not like John

1172
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: always said, Okay, brock see you later. He was willing

1173
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: to make him a very well played quarter dam sixteen

1174
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 1: not seventeen. Part of that has to be a little

1175
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: bit of public public relations too, and also he planned

1176
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 1: for the future. Just not offer your starting quarterback any money. Yeah, Ken,

1177
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: if you don't, If you don't mean he made aggressive offers,

1178
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 1: and I think they were ultimately a little surprised that

1179
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: brock Oswiler left. I mean, they kept raising their offers

1180
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: and as Wilder got the best deal that he could,

1181
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: I think it makes to be seen. I mean, that's

1182
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: a corny answer. Maybe this goes back further and and

1183
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: the maybe some bad blood. Do you do you think

1184
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: Broncos the Broncos win the Super Bowl with Brock Oswyler

1185
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: last year, and they don't. They definitely don't do it

1186
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: if it wasn't John Elway, the only person in the

1187
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: NFL that Peyton Manning trusted enough to go to Denver

1188
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: and join him there. Yeah, but that's John Elson. They

1189
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl and they built that team because

1190
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 1: that Peyton Manning attracts talent. That was great. That was

1191
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: Elway at his best. What would year maybe pony up

1192
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: the extra million or so and or whatever it took

1193
01:00:56,080 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: to get Brock, but he knows him. We're gonna I'll

1194
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 1: say that the seventh round pick is a guy we

1195
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 1: can count on just because it's the only guy left

1196
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 1: that but maybe for four weeks and until Paxton Lynch

1197
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 1: the first round pick. To me, if their defense is

1198
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: as good as it was, especially late last year, then

1199
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 1: none of it matters. That that's what they're really need

1200
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: to not be worried about. But like it's tough to

1201
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 1: have a defense, be the best defense in the league

1202
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 1: and then do it again and be that dominant doesn't

1203
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: mean they're gonna be a bad defense. They could be

1204
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 1: the sixth best defense in the league. That's not gonna work.

1205
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: I don't think that, Trevor Simmons. You need it to

1206
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: be an epic, historical type defense. I think if your

1207
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: position is John always should have handled this much differently,

1208
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 1: I think you have to come up with a viable alternative.

1209
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 1: And I don't think that paying brock Oswar a lot

1210
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: of money just because he was the guy who was there,

1211
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 1: but that that was the best decision to make. I'm

1212
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 1: just saying he did offer him a lot of money

1213
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 1: in a vacuum of no other options. Yes, you're right,

1214
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: what a topic. I love it alright. My Raider's question,

1215
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 1: it's not even a humble break. The d r s

1216
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 1: Everyminds made workaholics still on the air. That is it me?

1217
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: Or did the the Raiders buzz? Did all the excitement

1218
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: about the Raiders? That was everyone too quick with that?

1219
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: I feel like it's disciplined. Maybe it's just the off

1220
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 1: seasons too long. Are you as excited about the Raiders

1221
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 1: as you were maybe three or four months ago? No,

1222
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 1: I don't think I am. And it's through no fall

1223
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 1: to their own. Like you said, I think it's just

1224
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: the off seasons too long. There's we ran out of

1225
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: reasons to be excited about them. We already used them up.

1226
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 1: I'm naturally more excited about the Titans, so that's where

1227
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 1: my energy has gone. But there's no reason not to

1228
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 1: be excited about the Raiders. They have a much deeper

1229
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: roster than most of the a f C teams have.

1230
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 1: I I think that the excitement is legit in the

1231
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: fact that Reggie Mackenzie, you know, looked like he was

1232
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: building a tire fire for a couple of years there.

1233
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 1: And they've hit on draft picks. They have a young quarterback,

1234
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 1: they've got a great wide receiver and Marii Cooper. Their

1235
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 1: defense is starting to get stacked. Yes, I think there

1236
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 1: is reason for excitement, but they're also part of it

1237
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 1: is situations and time and time period, and they're in

1238
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: a tough, tough division. I don't think it's any assumption

1239
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 1: that they're this automatic wild card team. They're gonna have

1240
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 1: to go out and win games that no one in

1241
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 1: that organization has shown they can win in the last

1242
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: ten years. How high do we think Derek Carr's ceiling

1243
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 1: is like this this year. To me, that's their big question.

1244
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what the answer. I think we'll find

1245
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 1: out the reasons why. Maybe the excitement has dissipated a

1246
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 1: little bit. Do you believe Derek Carr is the same

1247
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 1: as a Marcus Mariotta And I don't, No, I don't.

1248
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: I mean I thought I still thought between him, Bridgewater

1249
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: and car U in Bordles to be Bordles was the

1250
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 1: guy that I thought was ahead of the other two,

1251
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: and I thought Bridgewaters right Like, I don't know, I

1252
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: need to I feel like I need to see more

1253
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: from Derek car especially after the second half. Seas Okay,

1254
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 1: maybe he wasn't as good in the second half, but

1255
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: Raiders fans screaming at their radios or phone or whatever,

1256
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: are saying, well, last year, you guys completely counted out

1257
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: Derek Carr, and then we're not counting him out a

1258
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 1: weak point on that team. He really did improve. We're

1259
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 1: not suggesting anything to the contrary, we're not counting him out.

1260
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 1: I think we want to see that he's going to

1261
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: be that guy who is an asset for you instead

1262
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 1: of a guy who is sometimes good in second half

1263
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: of last year, Is he gonna be. Is he gonna

1264
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 1: be Matt Ryan or Jake you know, somewhere between Matt

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Speaker 1: Ryan and Jake Cutler, Or is he gonna be a

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Speaker 1: potential top five type of two? Other teams in this

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Speaker 1: division would take two. Other teams in this division would

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Speaker 1: take Derek Carr over the current quarterbacks, no questions asked.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna take Trevor Simeon over Derek Carr. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: Broncos there one. Who's the other one? I don't think

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs would take him? Well, I would. I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's any way Andy Reid's taken Derek Carr over. Okay,

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Speaker 1: maybe Andy Reid isn't. But if I'm a Chiefs fan,

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Speaker 1: I'll take Derek Carr over Alexey. You want to win

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Speaker 1: this year or down the road, because I think Alex

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01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 1: Smith gives you a better chance to win. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think that's a good question. Who do we think

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be better this year, Alex Smith or Derek Carr.

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Speaker 1: I feel better about Alex Smith. Part of that has

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Speaker 1: to do with the period of growth that whole teams

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01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: had together. That you're you're talking about two different players

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Speaker 1: in two different systems, we talk the Chiefs, but Derek

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01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: cart of me is not the issue on the Raiders

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Speaker 1: all right. Time to pick the division? Quiet Storm, Well,

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Speaker 1: I talked about the Chiefs. That's going to the a

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Speaker 1: f C Championship. I think they have a good chance

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Speaker 1: for that. Pick them not to make the playoffs, then

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Speaker 1: I picked them championship. I think they go to the

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Speaker 1: SC Championship. Go Chiefs, number one, Broncos a very tight second, um, Raiders,

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01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 1: third Chargers fourth, great division. I have really changed my

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01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 1: mind on the Chiefs in the last few weeks. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna have them winning the division. Raiders, second, Broncos, third

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01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:39,439
Speaker 1: Chargers fourth again. Very tough to pick between one and four.

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Speaker 1: Uh West and I are in lockstep. I got k

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Speaker 1: C at ten and six, Oakland at nine and seven,

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01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 1: Denver fall into eight and eight. I think their defense

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01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 1: will be great, but you don't often see a historic

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01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: defense then followed up with an equally historic season, and

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01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 1: that's how good they have to be. So I think

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01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna hurt them when their offense struggles, and San

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01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,040
Speaker 1: Diego won't be a joke, but they'll go set in

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01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 1: to nine I think range. So the Chiefs we love

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01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. I have just unusual for US. I have

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01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 1: the Chiefs winning the Division two. I have the Chargers

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01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: not only making the playoffs, but then as a scrappy

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01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 1: six seed in the playoffs, winning a couple of road

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01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 1: games with Philip Rivers. This is what you want to happen,

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01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 1: like a couple of well why not, because we have

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01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 1: no idea what's going to happen, so you might as

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01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 1: well pick what you want to happen. You started going

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Speaker 1: with your heart. This is the throne of sleeve stuff

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Speaker 1: because he wants the Chargers to shock a couple of

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Speaker 1: people go to New England and lose forty one. I

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Speaker 1: wanted to be a good game, like I would dare

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Speaker 1: pick against the Patriots. What's the point, but you want

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01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 1: to have a chance trying to set up Patsy. They're

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Speaker 1: going to the playoffs and the Broncos go from the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl to the seller of New York Giants because

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Speaker 1: they dared to be This is the best division in

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Speaker 1: football to people in this room, not getting John Elway

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Speaker 1: Christmas cards, I think this is the best division in football.

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't surprise me if the Tire Division is. This

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Speaker 1: one's not for Greg, it's gonna you can only speak that.

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Speaker 1: That's the only sense he says. Now. I mean, he's

1325
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 1: just like, I can't follow. That wasn't in Pat said it,

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Speaker 1: not John Elway. No, this was the stick the sticks.

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01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 1: Six months ago, John Elway was going to do this speech.

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01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: He was gonna grab the nays said it about Pat.

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01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 1: This one's also for John. It's it's telling that six

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Speaker 1: months later, we've forgotten our own bits from February. It's alarming.

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01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 1: There might be a carbon monoxide leak here and and

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01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 1: the Broncos fans should be upset. Only Mark Sessler picked

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01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: them to win uh the Super Bowl last year. Westling

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01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 1: thought I didn't even believe my own take that the

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01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 1: Broncos could potentially beat the Patriots in the a f

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Speaker 1: C Championship. I remember that maybe they should be happy

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01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 1: with their Lombardi Trophy and not care what I predict

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Speaker 1: their fortunes. That's it. We did it forty two minutes exactly.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty good. It is the only thing we've ever

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01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 1: finished that time. You got to lose that thing. I

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01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 1: have asthma. It's making me a really upset, but you know,

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Speaker 1: it's celebration. It's like a it's really struggling to breathe.

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01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 1: Whatever they're doing there, it's not a happy celebration. Dan,

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01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 1: You've got an eleven and three quarter month window before

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01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 1: we need to do divisional previews again, or we're not

1346
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 1: riding high. It's how you felt when the Fantasy Week wrapped.

1347
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 1: I am a new person. I'm just gonna do whatever

1348
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 1: I want at this But the difference is we're bringing

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01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 1: back Fantasy Week next next year. Well, people seem to

1350
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 1: like this, the division previews, they're gonna be gone for

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01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 1: another year. That was kind of fun. But see, we

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01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:48,560
Speaker 1: did the majority of the a f C. If this

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01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 1: went to four teams I would have passed out about

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01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 1: twenty minutes ago. That's a lot of teams to cover.

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01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 1: Twelve was okay. For plus four plus four twelve, that

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01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,560
Speaker 1: would be okay. This is your least favorite thing to

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01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 1: do on the podcast. You know, I love talking football

1358
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,759
Speaker 1: with you boys, But that was a little overly structured.

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01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 1: That's all. Well, we get on us to come up

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01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 1: with a better We got a whole year to think

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01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 1: about it as we undermine what we just did. It's

1362
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:20,759
Speaker 1: like the tape is still running on this show somehow,

1363
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 1: listeners like if they're not invested, why should I be?

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Speaker 1: Stop it shoots baskets outside CBS Sports dot Com. All right,

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01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 1: that's it for UM today's edition of That's it for

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Speaker 1: the Last Around the NFL podcast you ever listened to.

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01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you for listening all these years. It's

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01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 1: been a great run together. Your baskets, tell your friends,

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01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 1: leave a comment on iTunes. So shoot your baskets. We

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Speaker 1: will be back um Thursday. We'll be back Thursday this

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Speaker 1: week for our third show the week. Uh so make

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Speaker 1: sure you come on back. Just kidding, Uh, please come back.

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01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 1: We need you. It's all we have until then. This

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Speaker 1: is Dan Hans's signing off. It's pretty close with the

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Speaker 1: Quiet Store, the mail Man, the Boss, and the Beautiful

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Speaker 1: Last Sit behind the Glass down Thursday, m