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Speaker 3: your share of ten thousand dollars. One of the questions

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Speaker 3: is which player will have the most rushing yard this week?

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Speaker 4: James Cook, Kashawn.

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Speaker 3: Jenkins, Christian McCaffrey or Saquon Barkley Colin I know the answer.

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Speaker 1: I like James Cook. They're gonna get some possessions. You know,

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Speaker 1: when you take a good team up a couple of

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Speaker 1: stinging losses, they play mad. I think Buffalo is gonna

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Speaker 1: play well this weekend. Albert Breer covering the NFL money

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Speaker 1: More in quarterback for over twenty years. Hey, let's the

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Speaker 1: Ravens suddenly. I mean we saw last night Albert just

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Speaker 1: getting Joe Mault back at left tackle. The Chargers could

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Speaker 1: run the ball to the left side, and Herbert was magic.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens are bringing back the band this weekend at home.

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Speaker 1: I think they're going to go on a heater. What

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Speaker 1: do you think?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think there's been a lot of

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Speaker 6: those narratives out there column what's wrong with the Ravens.

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Speaker 6: Look at the inactive list, you'll see exactly what's wrong

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Speaker 6: with the Ravens. Lamar Jackson was out, Kyle Hamilton was out,

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Speaker 6: Brokwan Smith was out. And now they've got a chance

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Speaker 6: to walk in. Now they've dealt themselves. They dug themselves

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Speaker 6: quite a hole to dig out of at one in

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Speaker 6: five and I'm gonna read the schedule, de I have

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Speaker 6: it in front of me. They play the Bears this week,

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Speaker 6: then they're at Miami, at Minnesota, at Cleveland, and then they.

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Speaker 5: Play the Jets.

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Speaker 6: There's a shot, and I'm not saying it's the lamp,

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Speaker 6: but there's a pretty good shot you can get through

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Speaker 6: that at five and zero, yep. And then on Thanksgiving

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Speaker 6: night have the Bengals coming in, who could be playing

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Speaker 6: really well at that point too, with Joe Flackoak quarterback

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Speaker 6: with a six and five record, and then they go

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Speaker 6: into a critical stretch where they play the Bengals, the Steelers,

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Speaker 6: then the Bengals again and the Patriots and the Packers.

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Speaker 5: So the schedule to stiffened down the stretch.

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Speaker 6: But they've got a real chance here to build some momentum,

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Speaker 6: to get Lamar Jackson back in the groove, Havero, Kwan

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Speaker 6: You have Ronnie Stanley getting healthier at left tackle. I

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Speaker 6: would not dismiss the Ravens as a contender.

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 6: I think most of their issues just to stem to

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Speaker 6: what was on the inactive list over the last months.

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Speaker 6: That's why they haven't played as well. And I think

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Speaker 6: they've got a real chance here to go on a

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Speaker 5: Their schedule sets up you and.

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Speaker 1: I agree, So I think one of the real fascinating

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Speaker 1: games Dallas, it's a true serum game against Denver. So

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Speaker 1: they beat the Giants and the Jets, and they tied

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Speaker 1: the Packers and almost beat Philly and then they get

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Speaker 1: Denver's got their own issues. They can't hit the long

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Speaker 1: two best rosters in the NFL, I would argue are Eagles, Denver,

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Speaker 1: maybe Detroit, and both the Eagles and the Broncos don't

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Speaker 1: feel good right now about their offense. All your sourcing.

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Speaker 1: I know that Sean loves bon Knicks, but it has

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Speaker 1: been really much like Jalen, really uneven for the Broncos offense.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think? What do you hear?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think there's a year of tape

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Speaker 6: how they're deploying bon Knicks, and teams have a better

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Speaker 6: handle on how to deal with them now, you know, certainly,

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Speaker 6: I think you know, you look at the roster and

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Speaker 6: I think their skill position talent is good, not great.

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Speaker 6: Courtland Sutton, Marvin Mems are good players. Are they great players?

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: You know what they've got in the backfield with Ak

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Speaker 6: You know, they really need bo Nicks to go out

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Speaker 5: They don't have superstars, and you.

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Speaker 6: Know, I think the encouraging thing is down the stretch

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Speaker 6: nicks Is two throws at the end of that Giants

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Speaker 6: game were as big as big gets, right, Like there's

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Speaker 5: He finds them sitting.

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Speaker 6: Down on the zone and then he hits Sutton on

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Speaker 5: How do you make that happen more consistently? I think

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Speaker 5: that's what they're searching.

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Speaker 6: For, and this is going to be a fascinating week

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Speaker 6: when you're talking about that singular matchup Denver offense versus

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think this is a.

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Speaker 6: Real strength versus strength game where you've got an outstanding

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Speaker 6: Dallas offense with Ada, with a quarterback in Dak Prescott

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Speaker 6: Denver defense. That's fantastic, right, So we have strength and

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Speaker 6: strength there, I think on the other side, now Denver's

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Speaker 6: got that opportunity to really assert themselves offensively.

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Speaker 5: It'll be interesting to see whether or not they can

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Speaker 1: So, you know, I look at Aaron facing the Packers.

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Speaker 1: There was a lot maine that there. When he came

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Speaker 1: it was time. Jordan Love had been in the building.

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Speaker 1: You want to get a couple of years on that

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Speaker 6: I think Aaron's relationships with a lot of people in

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Speaker 5: Here's what I respect about Aaron.

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Speaker 6: And I will say this like he's not perfect, right,

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Speaker 6: but what I've always respected about Aaron is that when

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Speaker 5: He doesn't punch down.

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Speaker 6: Generally, his issues have been either with the head coach

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Speaker 6: I think all those people still love him. The coaching staff,

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Speaker 6: he had a good relationship with Matt Lafleur. Matt Lafleur,

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Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers in the front office. So I think ninety.

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Speaker 6: Five percent of Aaron Rodgers' relationships are still really good.

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Speaker 5: But then there are a couple that weren't.

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Speaker 6: And so Brian Gudukunz is still there as the general manager.

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Speaker 5: That was one relationship that was certainly strained.

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Speaker 6: Mark Murphy was the president. He's not the president anymore,

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Speaker 6: so he's gone. So like I think there's gonna be

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Speaker 6: there's gonna be a lot of handshakes and hugs for

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Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers waiting on the other sideline on Sunday when

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Speaker 6: the Packers come into Pittsburgh and then maybe when the

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Speaker 6: if he can throw a touchdown pass or too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's funny. I gotta tell you. The deadline is

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Speaker 1: it's very tantalizing. My take has always been if you're

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Speaker 1: Bay Mica move. Not a trade deadline move. That's a

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Speaker 1: big swing. That's a super Bowl roster. Then I hear about,

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Speaker 1: well the Giants want to like slow down, like the

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Speaker 1: Raiders want to slow down. That's just job your retainment, Like,

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Speaker 1: I just think Buffalo looks at Kansas City, Albert, you

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Speaker 1: we don't match up right now with Kansas City.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and Kansas City's playing really well.

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Speaker 6: I think Patrick Mahoonmes might be the MVP of the

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Speaker 6: got Rashie Rice back. I think the Chiefs are speaking

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Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of pressure on people in

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Speaker 6: You know, So now you've got the guys that you're

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Speaker 6: zero era for Josh Allen in Buffalo, and so you

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Speaker 6: need guys like at Aliburn and Greg Russeau and Trell

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Speaker 5: You know, you need those guys to perform at a

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Speaker 5: high level. Could they use.

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Speaker 6: Another weapon to make their offense a little bit more dynamic.

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Speaker 6: I think if that was available to them, they would

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Speaker 6: certainly look at it. And if it was a young

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Speaker 6: then I think they would explore it. So who is that,

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Speaker 6: you know? I think you call New Orleans about Chris o'lave.

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Speaker 6: I think you call Minnesota about Jordan Addison just to

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Speaker 6: see if there's any interest at all. Because those guys

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Speaker 6: I think both those guys wind up staying where they're at.

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Speaker 6: I think both those guys wind up extended. But those

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Speaker 6: watch a little bit further down the line for Buffalo.

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Speaker 6: It could be Rashid Shahed from New Orleans. The one

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Speaker 1: Albert Breer Monday morning, quarterback, Thanks buddy, you got a call. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Turn on the news. This is the Herdline news.

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Speaker 4: All right, Colin, we got to go back to Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 4: They got the big Sunday night football.

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Speaker 4: In on his relationship with Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 8: A lot of it is just, you know, I'm saying

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that one. That's gonna be a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like I need to.

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Speaker 4: I just want to remind people. According to Pro Football.

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Speaker 3: Focus, Okay, Aaron Rodgers grading out is the twenty fourth

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Speaker 1: I know you hate it, No, I just don't. I

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Speaker 4: So this is the problem.

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Speaker 3: How do you square this with Rogers facing the Jets defense,

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Speaker 3: As we saw last night. The Vikings defense is a joke. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So all of a sudden, now you've got to face

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Speaker 1: But they didn't. They have a couple extra days to prep, hasn't.

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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlino has been good Monday night football, extra days

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Speaker 4: He's gonna have them all juiced up. That's fine.

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Speaker 3: Mike up Parsons might have something to say about that, Colin.

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Speaker 4: I like the Packers here. I think we might be

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Speaker 3: Next up, Saquon Barkley remains one of the big mysteries

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Speaker 4: Colin.

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Speaker 3: His numbers are down so dramatically, it's like what everybody

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Speaker 4: Every year they get a new one.

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Speaker 3: All right, we'll wrap up with World Series Game one.

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Speaker 3: Action starts tonight on Fox. Blue Jays Dodgers. Everybody's excited.

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Speaker 3: Two years ago, or two off seasons ago, rather, Shohey

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember this Colin. He ended

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Speaker 3: up not being on the flight and signed with the Dodgers. Well,

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Speaker 3: Jay's manager John Schneider poked at the free agent pursuit.

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Speaker 10: You felt good about it, you know, and you felt

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Speaker 10: you felt good about the feedback he was giving about

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Speaker 10: our organization and opportunity here. But you never really know

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Speaker 10: what a player's feeling in free agency, and there's got it.

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Speaker 10: There's a lot of things that have to line up

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Speaker 10: for them personally too, so you can't really think about

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Speaker 10: what if, you know, you think about the twenty sixth

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Speaker 10: that we have. He's a great player. I'll say it again.

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Speaker 10: I hope he brought his hat, the Blue Jay hat

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Speaker 10: that he took from us in our meeting. I hope

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Speaker 10: he brought it back finally. But and the jacket for decoy.

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Speaker 10: You know, it's like, give us our stuff back already.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think from a business standpoint, the

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Speaker 1: proximity to the Pacific rim, the Dodgers and the Angels

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Speaker 1: are better fits. I mean, but I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: Toronto is a great North American city. They're very well run.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, man, Toronto, they're they're almost like they're

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Speaker 1: a little bit like Milwaukee. But I think better at

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Speaker 1: the plate. I don't know what the numbers say. I

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Speaker 1: feel like they're Milwaukee but a little bit more dangerous

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Speaker 1: in that two, three four spot. Maybe the numbers don't

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Speaker 1: belie that, but that's what it feels like to me.

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Speaker 1: They'll give they'll give the Dodgers more trouble.

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Speaker 3: So apparently, you know, everything happens for a reason. Some

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Speaker 3: people believe that. So after whizzing on Otani, Blue Jays

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Speaker 3: ended up with Vlad Guerrero. Not a bad consolation prize, right,

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Speaker 3: He's now like they're superstar. They love him and who knows,

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Speaker 3: maybe he's the MVP of the World Series and it's like, hey,

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Speaker 3: this is what was meant to be, not Otani, but

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Speaker 3: we needed Vlad as our guy leading us. I'll still

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Speaker 3: take the Dodgers in five. I think you said six.

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Speaker 1: Was it? Dodgers in six? Key is tonight? Dodgers very

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Speaker 1: good Game one playoff team, But Bluji.

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Speaker 4: Has just had a long series. Does that stuff matter.

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Speaker 1: In baseball?

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Speaker 4: Dodgers are well rested or are they rusty rested?

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Speaker 1: Well, the Dodgers starters are ready to go, so I

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Speaker 1: mean Snell and Yoshi, everybody's ready to go. Jmckle the news, Well.

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Speaker 2: That's the news, and thanks for stopping by The Herd

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Speaker 2: Line news.

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Speaker 1: Dodgers, Pitchers starters are more arrested, probably an advantage his picks.

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Speaker 1: J mac Tomorrow's headlines today.

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Speaker 2: Next, be sure to catch live editions of The Herd

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Speaker 2: Weekdays and Noone Easter not a Empacific.

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Speaker 1: Rachel Nichols stopped by the show twice this week. Obviously.

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Speaker 1: Her second trip to our show was regarding the NBA scandal.

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Speaker 1: Of note, they've got a couple of things, a couple crises,

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Speaker 1: if you want to call it that, that they're dealing

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Speaker 1: with right now. The Clipper Kawhi story, which I'm not

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Speaker 1: fascinated with, but I think the reporting on it's been

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Speaker 1: excellent Pablo Tory. And then the other story yesterday which

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Speaker 1: was hard to wrap your brain around, Damon Jones and

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Speaker 1: Terry Rozier and Chauncey Billups a massive there's two separate cases.

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Speaker 1: One or in terms of number of people, is the

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Speaker 1: NBA gambling stuff, the poker stuff, which includes Lakosa Nostra.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know it still existed or didn't think it

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Speaker 1: was very vibrant today in the poker stuff. Now there's

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Speaker 1: accusations that Chauncey Phillips is part of both. They're just accusations.

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Speaker 1: But throughout the course of the weekend and next week,

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Speaker 1: we'll keep you updated on the very latest. There's a

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Speaker 1: real hunger for that story. But it is time to

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Speaker 1: make Jmac make the big picks. We call this segment

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Speaker 1: tomorrow's headlines Today. What's the headline? Niners and the Texans

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Speaker 1: on a wonky, weird numbers weekend and not a lot

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Speaker 1: of great games.

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Speaker 4: I think this one certainly qualifies, probably for some.

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Speaker 3: Reasons you're gonna find out here shortly, the headline for

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Speaker 3: Texans Niners will be love out the way forty nine

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Speaker 3: ers gold held up in Houston, Give me the Texans, Colin,

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Speaker 3: look at how we play on recent current of bens there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah again and nice to hear you laughing. So Demico

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Speaker 3: Ryans here, first matchup against the Niners since leaving San France, Colin,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask you, like, listen, you're.

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Speaker 4: A defensive coordator.

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Speaker 3: You spent time with Shanahan. You're seeing these guys in practice.

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Speaker 3: If anybody knows what Shanahan wants.

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Speaker 4: To do, it's Demiko Ryans.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a big edge for this great Texans defense.

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Speaker 3: They got one of the best front sevens in the

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Speaker 3: in the league, arguably be the best front four.

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Speaker 4: I think the Niners struggle here a little bit. I'm

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Speaker 4: with you.

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Speaker 3: I think you said low scoring game earlier, especially without

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Speaker 3: Nico Collins at Christian Kirk.

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Speaker 4: There's rumors that Houston could.

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Speaker 3: Start two rookies on the outside, Higgins and Noel Like.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, whoa, that's a bit of a surprise. I'll

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Speaker 3: go seventeen to thirteen ish Texans get to win lines

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Speaker 3: moving toward three. This could close Texans three, which I

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Speaker 3: don't love.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today, Brown's Patriots. I really like New England

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Speaker 1: in this spot.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Colin, you know sometimes again we agree, it's like

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Speaker 3: seventy eight percent hitting the headline for Brown's against the

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Speaker 3: pay as well be canceled coverage. Brown's not protected from Mayhem, Colin.

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Speaker 4: We love Drake May here. I know he's going to

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Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna start calling him Drake mahomest. That's how good

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Speaker 3: Drake may has been. Right, number one deep ball throwing

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Speaker 3: the league.

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Speaker 4: Colin, are you ready.

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Speaker 3: For this stat twenty plus yard air passes Drake May

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Speaker 3: fourteen of eighteen this season. Wow, that's insane with five touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, the Browns they're susceptible to

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Speaker 3: getting beat deep again. This Cleveland defense does not really travel.

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Speaker 3: That's been a big issue for them, right, and you

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Speaker 3: get the rookie quarterback going up against Rabel. And here's

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Speaker 3: the other stat.

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Speaker 4: I love.

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen or heard this anywhere. So we saw

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Speaker 3: the Raiders last week get really smashed.

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Speaker 4: Guess what they.

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Speaker 3: Were going into their bye. Okay, maybe they were already

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Speaker 3: mentally checked out. You know who else We saw a

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Speaker 3: struggle Jacksonville guy, really their doors blown off. They were

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Speaker 3: heading into a bye. The Cleveland Browns have a bye

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Speaker 3: next week, Colin. They've been on a long one. They

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Speaker 3: had road games, they had London, they had to go travel.

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Speaker 3: Now you get a one more trip before the buye.

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Speaker 3: I think they kind of get smashed here by the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today, This was a stay away game for me.

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Speaker 1: Giants at the Eagles. Can they sweep Philly?

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Speaker 4: Well, why do you stay away? Colin? I just just curious.

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Speaker 1: Philly's gonna eventually figure out their run game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I would agree they're a Jeckel and Hi team.

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Speaker 3: The headline for Eagles Giants the rematch will be Kwan

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Speaker 3: but not forgotten. Barkley sets a reminder for Giants. This

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Speaker 3: has to be the Saquon Barkley game. Colin, this is

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Speaker 3: a weird Eagles stat.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready for this?

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Speaker 3: So they lead the league in three and out punts,

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Speaker 3: number one in the NFL. They're also number one in

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Speaker 3: red zone touchdown efficiency.

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Speaker 1: What.

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Speaker 3: I don't really know what's going on with this team.

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Speaker 3: It could be as you noted that they're on another

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Speaker 3: offensive coordinator. You know, they basically change them like they're

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Speaker 3: underwear every season, and now they're just struggling on the

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Speaker 3: down to down.

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Speaker 4: This aj Brown.

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Speaker 3: Stuff is concerning everybody's wait right now to see if

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Speaker 3: he practices today and will be a go this weekend.

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Speaker 4: But at some point they got to figure this out.

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Speaker 3: Once they move the ball, they're great, but getting started,

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Speaker 3: they're like that old car that can't really get going. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 3: they're facing a Giants team that has been lights out

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Speaker 3: in the first quarter with Dart and Dable scheming up stuff. Remember,

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Speaker 3: they grabbed these early leads and can they hold on?

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Speaker 3: I'm going Eagles here, but I don't feel amazing about it.

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Speaker 1: All right. I took the over on Dolphins at the

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Speaker 1: Falcons Atlanta at home. It's a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: track team. Tomorrow's headlines today Miami at the atl What

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Speaker 1: do you got?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 4: I was texting you earlier this week.

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Speaker 3: One of my big things in the league this year

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Speaker 3: is it's back to a ground and pound. Running is

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Speaker 3: so instrumental the way defenses are adjusting.

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Speaker 4: Who did that give the edge to?

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Speaker 9: Here?

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Speaker 3: The headline will be for Falcons Dolphins life is to

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Speaker 3: a short Dolphins clock out mid season. This is a

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Speaker 3: Miami defense. Colin cannot stop the run. Seven they face

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Speaker 3: the season, five have gone over one hundred yards. Jonathan

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Speaker 3: Taylor was at ninety eight. Like I'm just telling you,

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Speaker 3: Bijon should be in line to carry your fantasy team

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Speaker 3: this weekend. And you know the headline here clock out

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Speaker 3: midseason has Miami quit. I mean, I think we saw

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Speaker 3: some of that in the second half against the Browns.

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Speaker 3: Can the Falcons run away and hide? We'll see how

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Speaker 3: Michael Pennix in that knee holds up. It sounds like

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Speaker 3: he's going to be a go not an issue. Miami's

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Speaker 3: pass rush isn't great. I just want to see the

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Speaker 3: Atlanta offense that cooked Washington right, that went up and

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Speaker 3: down the field against the Bills. That's the one I

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Speaker 3: want to see at home. And by the way, if

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Speaker 3: Tampa slips up against the Saints and Atlanta wins this,

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Speaker 3: we've got a divisional race that kind.

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Speaker 4: Of is fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Finally, tomorrow's headlines today A really interesting game, Cowboys

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Speaker 1: at the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'd say this is probably the second best game. I'm

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Speaker 3: fascinated by it. I'm starting to come around on the Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: I can't believe it.

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Speaker 3: The headline for Dallas Denver will be shot happens three

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Speaker 3: hundred and fifty yard Dackerie dropped onto the field.

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Speaker 4: Colin, this is about Dak Prescott. How about this? I

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Speaker 4: saw a funny stat The two best offenses.

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Speaker 3: In the league are the Dallas Cowboys and whoever's playing

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Speaker 3: Dallas because the defense is so leaky. Sounds like Trayvon

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Speaker 3: Diggs I'm reading here in the last hour, could be

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Speaker 3: going on the IR.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what happened in his house. Something went down.

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Speaker 3: Now he's banged up, he's out, so they're gonna hemorrhage

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Speaker 3: points on the back end. But man, you know what

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Speaker 3: Dak Prescott cooks. That's man to man defense, throwing to

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Speaker 3: Lamb who can get open, and Pickens, who's a cheap code.

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Speaker 3: Denver plays a lot of man Colin, I think this

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Speaker 3: matchup should Dak should have another three hundred and fifty

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Speaker 3: yard game here. The question is can can the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: defense get enough stops to get the win. I'll take

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Speaker 3: a little Dallas on the money line, and if the

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Speaker 3: Eagles slip up, I'm just telling you, if you want

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys, Colin, bet them now to win the NFCS

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Speaker 3: because things could go their way this weekend, which is

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Speaker 3: honestly one of the bigger stories in the league.

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Speaker 4: We thought this team was headed downhill.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a four to five win team. Yeah, no, not.

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Speaker 1: And I was a fan of what was it, the

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Speaker 1: August Green Bay Micah trade, Like I was a fan

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Speaker 1: of it getting two first round picks. Albert Brier, who

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Speaker 1: was on about a half hour ago, his thoughts on

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Speaker 1: that struggling bow Knicks Broncos offense and that leaky Dallas defense.

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Speaker 6: I think this is a real strength versus strength game

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Speaker 6: where you've got an outstanding Dallas offense with a dat

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Speaker 6: with a quarterback in Dak Prescott playing at an MVP level,

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Speaker 6: two receivers and Lamb and Pickens who have number one

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Speaker 6: type ability going against a Denver defense. That's fantastic, right,

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Speaker 6: So you have strength on strength there. I think on

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Speaker 6: the other side, now Denver's got that opportunity to really

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Speaker 6: assert themselves offensively. It'll be interesting to see whether or

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Speaker 6: not they can do it.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's it's interesting with Sean payton E. You

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Speaker 1: know bo Nicks. If you go to Russell Wilson's prime,

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Speaker 1: what did he do? He ran around and and you know,

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Speaker 1: could struggle over the middle of the field. Bow Knicks now,

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Speaker 1: young guy runs around really well. Has struggled on the

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Speaker 1: deep ball. Russell was very good on the deep ball early,

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Speaker 1: but never really saw the middle of the field. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's some complaints that you know, bo Nicks is little

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Speaker 1: run reliant, has to move, hasn't been as good from

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Speaker 1: the pocket. Greg Cosel says, I tend to think if

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Speaker 1: you can run as a quarterback, do it for the

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Speaker 1: first two years, then scale back on it. But for

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Speaker 1: two years as you try to de cipher NFL defenses,

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Speaker 1: pick up first downs, use your legs. By year three,

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Speaker 1: don't run as much, learn to slide. But I think

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Speaker 1: it's almost like when you go to work at a

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Speaker 1: new company the first two years, just live at the office. Now,

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Speaker 1: I tell my kids in your twenties, you've got the energy.

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Speaker 1: Live at the office. Thirties, start a family, forties, you

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Speaker 1: lose energy. In the NFL when you're a young quarterback,

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Speaker 1: the defenses are so much tighter and well coached in college. Run,

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Speaker 1: move the chains, move the sticks, pick up first downs.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be choppy. You know, people look at Mahomes, Well,

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Speaker 1: Homes didn't have to play us first year, so you

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Speaker 1: didn't get those five or six really sloppy, ugly, turnover

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Speaker 1: prone starts.

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Speaker 2: You know, he had.

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith, Andy Reid and inherited Travis Kelcey closer to

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Speaker 1: his prime or in his prime. All right, First things

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Speaker 1: first is around the corner World Series Tonight, Dodgers, in

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Speaker 1: the Blue Jays, stars, power hitters everywhere, cy young winners,