WEBVTT - Dwight Howard 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.200 We wanted to destroy Lebrun in the cass. Because of that, 0:00:03.279 --> 0:00:05.559 I couldn't wait to see Anderson Barrage. I wanted to 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:08.079 rip his hair off. I wanted to kill it with 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:12.559 galskis of his name. Would all my life the grinding, 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:17.759 all my life, sacrifice hustle back price. One slice got 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:20.159 the Broner dice to sware all my life. I've been 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:23.440 grinding all my life, all my life, then grinding all 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:28.400 my life up, sacrifice, hustle back price. One slice got 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:30.880 the broll dice to sware all my life. I've been 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:35.960 grinding all my life. Hello, welcome to another edition of 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:38.239 Club Sha Shake. I am your whole shouting sharp. I'm 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:40.560 also the proprouder of Club Sha Shake and the guy 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:42.920 that's stopping by for a conversation on the drink today. 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:46.400 If an NBA champ, He's an Olympic gold medallist. He's 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:48.400 a three time Defensive Player of the Year, four time 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:51.880 first Team All Defensive Player, five time First Team All NBA, 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:55.280 five time rebounding champ, two time block leader, eight time 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:59.280 All Star Slam dunk champ, and mister Georgia Basketball in 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:03.920 my state. Dwight Howard there's a title missing, and we're 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:07.640 gonna talk about that seventy fifth anniversary. Let's go ahead 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:09.800 and get into it right now. D White. I've been 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:12.440 very outspoken and we talked about on my show Skipping. 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:15.880 I talked about it on Undisputed that I believe that 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:18.280 you that you should have been on that team given 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:20.920 what I just read off. Forget how they feel about 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:23.000 you where he didn't take it serious, YadA, YadA, yall, 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:27.040 get all that, but based on your resume, you should 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:29.840 have been one of the seventy five best players in 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:34.720 NBA history. Are you surprised you're not? And when you 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:37.560 got when you didn't hear your name called, what did 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:40.200 you feel? I'm very surprised that I wasn't put on 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:43.319 the list. When I saw that I wasn't on the list, 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:48.360 I was really upset and I really was just wanting 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:50.160 to say, like, you know, I don't even want to 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:52.800 play basketball anymore? Like what am I playing for? Right? 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:55.400 I've did all this stuff, I've accomplished all these things. 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:58.400 I felt like I've been a great ambassador for the 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:02.880 NBA in the game, believe, and I feel like that 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:08.520 was just like a disrespect, like total disrespect and you know, 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:13.520 even what you just said about you know, people saying like, ah, 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:16.160 he didn't take it softer court. It's one thing, but 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:18.440 what you did on the okay, for somebody to not 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.680 take it serious, to have three Yeah, that's what I 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:23.240 was like, did that? That's what I was about to 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:26.079 allude to, Like, how could someone say I didn't take 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:29.959 the game serious when the stuff that you're mentioning? Three 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:32.560 time Defensive Player of the Year. I had to take 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:35.160 defense serious enough to want to win it three times 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:37.240 in the row, and I actually should have won it 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:40.240 four times in the row. The last year I didn't 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:42.560 win it because I asked for a trade and the 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:45.359 media went on this world win about me wanting to 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:50.680 leave Orlando, and the person who won was third team 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:53.880 All Defense that year and I was first team. So 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:56.840 it's like that don't even make any sense, correct. So 0:02:56.880 --> 0:02:58.959 it's just like a lot of things have been happening 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:02.520 and I'm like me me taking the game serious. I've 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:05.480 been playing for eighteen years. I have to take something 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:07.520 serious in order to play that long. Do I like 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:10.200 to have a good time? Yes, I'm doing something that 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:13.560 I dreamed about doing since I was three years old. 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:16.960 Of course I'm gonna smile and hal far What is 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:20.600 it that the fans and the media get wrong about 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:22.519 the White Howard? This is why I am in general, 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:25.280 you know what I'm saying. I think that over the 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:27.800 over period of time, has just been so many things 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:30.919 that have been said about my character, how I am 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:34.960 with teams, teammates. All these things have been like, you know, 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:38.000 just crazy to me that people would even think that one, 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:40.200 I'm a bad teammate, that I'm a cancer in the 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:43.200 locker room, that I'm a bad guy, that I'm a diva, 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:46.360 all these things that you're partner and one of your 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:49.360 other shops said about me, you know, all the time. 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:51.320 And I used to sit back and be like, man, 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:53.200 I want to have a conversation with him to see 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:54.960 where he would even think that I would be this 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:57.440 type of person. Where he got that from? Yeah, where 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:00.080 you got it from? You know, cause that's not even me. 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:03.600 You know. I've always taken this game series, but I 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:05.800 want to have fun doing it right. I'm not gonna 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:07.880 sit and be mad while I'm playing this sport. But 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:12.280 I do take it serious. And obviously my resume shows 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:15.280 that and my body shows that. I take what I 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:18.240 do serious, so and I just think it's always been 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:20.839 a misconception that the people in the media are just 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:24.320 when I've been like a polarized character in the media. 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:26.760 You know, where I can be loved, I could be 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:29.760 hated based off if I left a team, or if 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:32.119 I said something about this, or me and Kobe didn't 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:36.279 work out, or just all these circumstances that people said 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:39.720 I wasn't who I you know I am. Today you 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:43.880 mentioned that you asked for a trade from Orlando? What 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:46.800 was track? What was happening in Orlando that you felt that, 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:50.720 you know what, it's time for me to move on, Well, 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:54.520 on the with the team. I'm gonna start with the team, 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:57.760 then I go personal with the team. I just felt like, 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:01.880 we went to the finals, Why would you get rid 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:05.440 of that team? Right? That didn't make any sense to me. 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:08.520 I had no clue about it. No one asked me 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:11.599 about it. Like, we just got to the finals. You 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:14.320 don't throw away the whole team. They basically blew it up, 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.359 and they blew it up, so, you know, I was 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:19.080 really upset about it. But we did get Vince Carter back, 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:21.840 We did get some really good pieces Matt barns and 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:24.440 stuff like that. But it's just like, we just got 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:27.640 to the finals. Let us build, you add with around 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:30.800 the teams, don't don't break it up like me and 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.599 he don't have great chemistry. Me and Rashan and me 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:35.920 and Jamir are two point guards that played in the 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:39.400 place that Jamir skipped to my loop and Anthony Johnson, 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:42.240 they did an amazing job. Why get rid of these 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:45.480 vets and these people that are really grooming me and 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:49.360 Jamir and the youngest on how to be real vets 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:51.680 and players in the league, Like, why messed that up? 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:54.599 So after that, you know, on the basketball, laying on 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:56.840 the personally, and I'm like, man, you know what, I've 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:58.920 been on the land though for eight years. I feel 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:02.760 like I'm not growing. I feel like I had a 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:06.200 lot of yes people around me or just people that 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:09.280 was had They come to you and say, the White 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:12.360 this is what we're thinking. Yes, we went to the finals, 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:14.920 but we feel in order for us to grow as 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:18.000 a team and possibly get back to the finals, this 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:20.279 is the direction. But because they cut you out of 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:23.200 that process, they didn't ask. They just started rebuilding and 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:25.320 that was just one part of it. But you know, 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:29.120 for eight years. I had called in text and email 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:32.600 the owner of the team, just to develop a relationship 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:36.240 because I'm eighteen. I don't know anything about money, how 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:38.000 to spend it, how to save it, how to do 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:42.040 anything with it, and how to be a franchise player, right, 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:45.479 so I wanted to talk to the person who drafted me. 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:50.719 Never really had contact, you know. And when that situation happened, 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:52.640 it is like, man, let me just go somewhere else 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:55.360 and start fresh, right, And then it just blew up. 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:59.000 It just seemed like the world went crazy after that. 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:01.240 Could you have handled that situation? How do you think 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:05.320 you handled that situation? About going about asking port trade? 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:07.599 Could have been handled behind closed doors. Didn't do it 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:10.040 behind closed doors. And that's the thing that people don't know. 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:13.720 I went to oldest smith one on one. The first 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:16.560 person I actually went to was Jamir Nelson, okay, because 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.120 we got drafted together and that was my teammate and 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:21.320 he was like my big brother, right, And I went 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:23.600 to him and said, listen, Jamie, I want to get traded. 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:26.560 It's not because of you staying and nobody on the 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:29.480 team I love, y'all. I just want to change for myself. 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:33.160 That's it. That's all. He said. Bet what you're gonna do? 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:35.000 I said, I'm gonna go talk to the the oldest. I 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:37.160 went and talked the oldest. I said, oldest, I don't 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:40.480 want this public. I don't want want nobody knowing about this. 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:43.200 I don't wanted to turn into a situation like how 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:46.120 Lebron just had and the whole world is hating me 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:47.960 because I wanted to lead this team. Just let me 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:50.560 go somewhere and start first, he said, I got you. 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:53.160 I thought they was gonna keep it private, and all 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:55.240 of a sudden they came out and said I wanted 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:57.320 to get traded. And I hated this. I hated that, 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:59.640 and I'm like, damn, I never said none of this stuff. 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:04.240 And then it just blew up. So that put So 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:07.120 that has something to do with probably maybe the media 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:09.680 and the fans turning on you because of what the 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:11.760 way it was put the way, yeah, the way it 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:14.560 was projected to the whole world. And with me, I'm 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:17.360 not thinking like I should say something about it or 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:21.080 do anything about it, because I know that I wasn't 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:24.120 the person asking to get staying out of here or 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:26.560 do this and do that. I just wanted to leave 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:29.480 so I'm thinking it's gonna blow over. Then it start 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:33.000 getting into the season, and then it's just coverage and 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:37.240 just all these different negative things happening, and I'm like, dang, 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:40.000 it's nowhere around it. Then I get hurt. So now 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:42.400 I was like, oh, this is happening. Now I get hurt. 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:45.120 And then now it's like I'm not trying to play 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:48.200 because out the coaches here. So it's just too much 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:52.600 going on. And you know, I just really really felt 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:55.880 bad for the city because we did so much in 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:58.920 the Orlando and I know personally in the community, I 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:02.200 was doing so much and the fact that all these 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:04.960 people had seemed like they got they turned on me 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:08.040 because of what some people who wasn't even in Orlando 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:12.120 was saying, and you know it, it was heartbreaking for 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:17.680 a while. Was La the first on your list? I 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:19.440 want to get traded? Okay, you made that a clear. 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:22.520 You went to oldest mid LA wasn't on your list. 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:24.760 La was not on my list at all. Where did 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:26.640 you want to go? I wanted to go to Brooklyn. 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:28.960 I didn't want to go to LA because I felt 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:32.920 like I wanted to go somewhere who's n they've never 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:36.000 won or they haven't had as many championships, and I 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:38.280 wanted to help that team grow and be a champion. 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:41.120 And when I wanted to play against Kobe because they 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:43.560 just beat us, right, So I'm like, why would I 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:45.280 want to go to LA. I don't want people to 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:48.559 think I'm trying to follow behind Shad or do any 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:52.560 of that. So yes, I wanted to go somewhere else 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:55.599 and make my own name and statement there. And the 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:57.840 Magic knew that. I told him I wanted to go 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:00.920 to Brooklyn, and they sent me to LA. So once 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:02.960 I got there, I was like, you know what, I 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:05.880 just had back surgery. I was supposed to be out 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:08.400 of year. I wasn't even supposed to play that season, right, 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.800 I said, I'm gonna just go play and see what happened. 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:15.880 And it didn't work out as well as we wanted 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:19.560 it to. You mentioned you're supposed to be out of year. Obviously, 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:22.439 you're coming in three time Defensive Player of the Year, 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:26.080 you finished second in the MVP voting. You are Perennial 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:27.960 got his finning in the top five in the MVP. 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:31.560 You had taken a team to the championship. Now you're 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:34.800 linking up with Kobe you're linking up with Pyle. What 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:37.240 are your thoughts? You're like, Okay, this is not my 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:39.080 original plan. I didn't want to go. This is not 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:42.800 my original destination. But you know what, Kobe Pyle another 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:46.560 big defeat. Okay, I thought I was gonna win. I 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:50.600 was happy. I was like, yo, I didn't want to 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:52.800 go to La because we just played Kobe and I 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.800 really wanted to beat him. Right, But I'm like, this 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:59.040 is Kobe, right, so I'm finna bust my ass to 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:01.760 get back in the gym him to come back and play. Right. Mind, 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:05.120 You people don't know how bad this surgery was. Right. 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.360 This doctor is the best doctor in the world for 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:13.160 back surgers. He doctor Watkins. He said that my my 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:16.040 herniated disk was the largest that he's ever had to 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:20.360 pull out of someone. I couldn't even lift my calf. 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:23.320 I couldn't do a calf raise. Okay, that's how bad 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:25.800 it was. The doctor in Orlando told me that my 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.599 career was over. I wasn't gonna I wasn't supposed to 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:31.600 play anymore. Right. I came back in four months. It 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:33.840 took a month and a half to get my nerves 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:38.760 and my calf muscle to work. So I wasn't even 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:40.680 supposed to play that year. And I came back and 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:44.600 had average twenty two and twelve and thirteen, and people 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:46.760 saying that I had a bad season for the Lakers, 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:49.199 I didn't want to play and all that stuff, and 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:51.960 I'm like, man, I went out there and I thought 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:54.400 I turned up and I wasn't even a hundred percent. 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:56.480 I tore my label them in the whole process and 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:59.360 played the whole season with a torn labor So it 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:02.120 was like I all I wanted to do is come 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:04.440 here and win, right, And when it didn't work out, 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:08.280 just like damn, I feel like I was all by 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:11.360 myself because it felt like when I got kicked out 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:14.400 of the last game, everybody turned it on me like 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:17.880 it was my fault. I was the reason the Lakers 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:20.960 had a bad season. Magic Johnson said, if I can't 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:23.120 get the Lakers to the playoff, then I shouldn't be 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:27.360 a Laker. So I'm like, damn, this is crazy, right, 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:34.040 But I just kept moving, kept moving. It didn't turn 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:37.319 out the way you wanted to with the Lakers. Russ 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:41.560 comes to the Lakers. He's a hometown kid. His dream 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:43.920 is to play for the Lakers. He watched them win titles. 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:48.000 Is there anything that you could have shared with him 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:51.360 to like, Russ, this is a different animal. You've got 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:54.679 to win here. They don't care about what you've done elsewhere. 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:56.959 They didn't care about my three Defensive Players of the Year, 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:59.200 they didn't care about my all nbas, they didn't care 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:02.160 about any of that. They needed to see three time 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:04.240 defensive player of the Year. They needed to white how 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:06.520 to get one of those awards. Here. They're gonna need 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:11.080 to see you do what you've done other places here. See. 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:15.920 I think that that be like the misconception where you 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:20.160 have to allow that mindset. If you allow that mindset 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:24.480 to take over you, you will not have a good season, okay, 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:27.640 because you're thinking about what everybody else is thinking. And 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:31.160 I felt like that's what he was doing. He's thinking 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:33.959 about if he missed this shot, or he's hearing the 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.599 crowd bull and they're buying him, and they're buying his 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:41.079 family and all this stuff, and it's like, you gotta 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:44.880 tune that out, right. I have went through the ringer 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:48.520 with the la fast from leaving, coming back, leaving and 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:51.960 coming back and then buoying me throwing basketballs at me, 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:54.920 Jersey's all that stuff, But I understand, like they just 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:58.680 really passionate about their team. They love their team. So 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:03.559 people some people don't understandn't know how to express anger, 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:06.960 even when it's a fan, right, you know, So I 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:09.040 get it. So you gotta be able to just block 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:11.800 all that hoing that out and go win and make 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:15.080 them pay for saying anything about you. So when I 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:18.200 got back and I played again, I made every fan 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:21.000 eat their words about what they said about me, right, 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:23.520 no matter if they thought that I did it in 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:26.080 a bad way or however I left the first time. 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:28.920 I made sure that the second time I played, they 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:31.600 couldn't say nothing about the White how whether it was 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:34.640 how he was on a bitch, how I acted with 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:38.360 the referees, teammates, it was nothing they could say because 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:40.760 I left it all out there on the line. So 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:43.240 it turned out good. Do you wish you had got 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:45.200 that kind of reception the first time around like you 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:47.760 got the second time around. I think that I got 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:50.560 that reception when I first got there, right, But I 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:53.960 think because we lost that season and how the season went, 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:57.720 it was just people were so upset because their expectations 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:01.000 were so sold through the roof and you know, but 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:02.760 that's every year with the lady. That's every year and 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:04.400 I and I get it, you know. But that's why 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:07.320 for me, I don't do the expectation thing. I go 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:10.720 out there and stay in that moment and I live 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:13.800 in that and that's how I'm able to, you know, 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:18.720 keep pushing. We don't get back to basketball but this summer. 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:20.960 I mean, I know, you know what I'm talking about. 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:23.640 I want to talk about your You're you're wrestling. You're 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:27.440 a big wrestling fan. You know wrestling. I think wrestling 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:30.120 and originated in Georgia. Georgia Championship Wrestler. Doesn't get into 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:33.080 better than that with Gordon Soul and Dusty Rose mister right, 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:35.920 Oh yeah yeah. I grew up following the circuit Savanna 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:38.440 backslip Blacks by day yea, they used to come to 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:41.280 a come to Glenville. So I'm a big wrestling fan. Also, 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:44.880 when did you become a wrestling fan? Who's your favorite wrestler? 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:50.320 I became a wrestling fan in the Macho Man Randy 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:56.040 Savage phase. Uh he actually is my alias, my Randy Savage, 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:59.960 So I love Macho Man Randy Savage. Uh he would 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:03.920 probably be at the top for me. Then you got Goldberg, okay, 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:11.480 Hogan Steing the Undertaker right, and the Big Show with 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:17.000 the exception of the Big Show Goldberg and Hogan, all 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:23.000 the Rep Savage dressed up, Sting dressed up. Uh, macho 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:26.960 man dressed up? So what would the white hair the 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:29.480 white Dwight Howard's character be? Who? Who? Who are you 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:31.560 gonna be? What you you gonna put paint on? You 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:36.040 gonna come back to the action figure? Okay? That way, 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:38.200 I can wear any outfit I want them where I 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:40.520 can dress up like g I Joe and be slow. 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.320 I can dress up in the wrestling outfit. I can 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:48.800 dress up in anything. Because I'm the action figure. Everybody's 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:50.800 out there to see to be put on the show. 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:53.920 So because you can put undertakers a very tall man, 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:58.920 the Big Show was John Normous. Who U Hogan is 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:02.640 fairly tam You got uh see you forgetting about Raven Simone. 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:06.920 I'm not Raven Simone. Uh dang Simone. Uh oh oh 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:10.520 h oh man. He passed away. Yes, yes, yes, yes, Ramon, 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:13.520 Ramon Ramon. I don't know why I said Raven Smone, 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:19.359 Razor Ramone, Razor Ramone that's exactly the all time the 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:23.239 ultimate big guy Andre the John. Yes. Yes, So so 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:25.919 what's your move? What? What? What's the White Howard move? Actually, 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:27.879 I have a couple move. I've been a couple of 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:30.119 moves I've been practiced and I have the de bo 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:33.200 okay as the White and so when I'm doing this running, 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:36.919 I thought a real strong elbow, which I threw a 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:40.600 lot of in the basketball knocked the people out. Okay, 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:44.399 I got the Superman punched with the basketball. Okay. I 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:48.000 also have uh this kick that I do. It's like 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.280 a real high kick, right, so I can do it 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:52.840 from many different angles, but it ended up knocking a 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:55.440 lot of people out. I've been doing stunts and practices 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:58.520 just so you know, I've actually got some videos that 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:00.960 I'm gonna be putting out because you did I mean 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:03.480 you've already you know, audition for the WW I did 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:07.520 some tryout. Yeah. I went down to SummerSlam, right, and 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:10.720 they had about seventy five people. They're trying they try 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:13.120 us aren't in landa right, they are in Orlando, which 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:17.120 was crazy that it's Orlando. So guys are trying out, 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:20.000 they're doing promos and I'm watching it and I'm like, man, 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:22.359 I believe I can go on stage and do what 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:26.080 they're doing. Kill it right. So but the big one, 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:28.440 you gotta have a persona. You gotta be able to talk. Yes, 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:30.800 but that your boy was able to talk. Yes, all 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:33.520 the guys to entertain you gotta be you gotta be 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:36.080 able to entertainment. And let me go on stage. They 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:39.080 let me go on stage. I get on stage and 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:41.800 I kill it so bad that they asked me to 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:46.000 come back the next day and do another one on stage. Okay, 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:50.200 this time stephaniem Man is there. That's the Steos and 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:55.080 also Triple Late. Yes, they both was like the White 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:58.639 had the best promoi of everybody in there. If you 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:01.760 call us and want to come to wrestling, were ready 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:05.200 for so you get okay, Well how about this here? 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:09.560 Shock also is a big wrestling fan. Yes, Shock the 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:14.640 White twenty twenty three Summer Slam winn against the Superman nickname. 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:20.000 I like it. I like it, so you said, twenty 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:23.680 twenty three, twenty twenty three Summer Slam. We gotta guess 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:28.800 what it's even bigger? What wrestlerman here is in La 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:32.480 this year? Okay? Who the king of La Ka La 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:39.480 let's go, Shack, let's go. Let's go. Hey, I'm ready. 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:43.560 I'm ready to go right now. Say say you'd be 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:46.520 the referee you were in skip, I'm taking you down 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:52.720 the way. That would be, that would be, that would 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:59.199 do genormous rate Man what Superman Verse? Superman? You also had? Uh, 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:01.120 they have this. I should teach this TV show that's 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:05.480 gonna aar in January. Celebrities training special Forces? Yes, what 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:09.240 was that like? Training to be a special Force? That 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:14.200 was the hardest training I ever did in my life. 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:16.480 You got a new final respect for those guys. Huh, 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:19.879 I have. It's if it was something more than respect. 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:24.440 That's what I have for anybody who's ever laced up 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:28.879 those boots, trained at anything, for any of the services. 0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:33.720 Because what we went through was pure hell. And I 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:35.800 don't want people to think that this was a show 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:38.920 where after we finished filming we went back to our 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:41.760 nice hotel and got a chance of get in the bed. No, 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:45.359 it was no hotels, it was no beds. We're out 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:48.920 in the desert, one hundred and fifteen degrees every day, 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:53.080 forty fifty degrees at night, Scorpions in the saying all 0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:56.800 type of stuff, be getting chased by dogs, helicopters, getting 0:20:56.800 --> 0:21:00.000 set on fire, tear gas. I'm running up two hundred 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:03.399 fifty foot towers, jumping down the back of 'em, jumping 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:07.920 out of helicopters backwards, didn't put in the ocean, getting drowned, 0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:11.320 proof tests and doing everything like it was the hardest 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:13.280 thing in my life. And then the hardest part was 0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:17.080 writing death letters to our families, right, that was the 0:21:17.119 --> 0:21:19.680 hardest thing that we had to do and then read 0:21:19.760 --> 0:21:23.600