1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: I just think in today's world a shelf, the life 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: of managers and coaches is so much shorter because does 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: no one wants to play the long game. MutS to 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: do more. 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 2: Pop corner time and we might take this topic right 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 2: into our next guest, but let's start with you guys. 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 3: Buster Posey takes over the San Francisco Giants baseball operations department, 8 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 3: and there was a really good story or just good 9 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 3: back and forth with media in Philadelphia yesterday talking to 10 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 3: some of the players about his role. Bryce Harper steals 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 3: the show with his quote right off the jumpe says 12 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 3: he's got my dream job, and he said, being able 13 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 3: to be president of an organization really cool opportunity for him, 14 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 3: obviously one of the best to ever do it. Behind 15 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 3: the plate goes over the accolades and then he says, 16 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 3: I think he's just going to do a lot of 17 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 3: really cool things over there and kind of let everybody 18 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 3: do their jobs as well. I think that's a big thing. 19 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 3: Super excited for him. Trey Turner pointed out how he 20 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 3: thinks that currently in the game, there's a real advantage 21 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 3: for some old school methodology, analytics, whatever you want to 22 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 3: call it. 23 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: Because he thinks that the. 24 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 3: Game is getting so analytical, and that's a topic that's 25 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 3: been going on for a long time. But he basically 26 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 3: was bringing up the blend. So what do you think 27 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 3: about what those two said? 28 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 4: First of all, I love the players are getting back 29 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 4: involved because Chris Young, Greg Breslo, Buster Posey. Let's not 30 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 4: forget Brandon Gomes. People always talk Andrew Freeman, but Brandon 31 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 4: Gomes was a pitcher and he's a player and he's run. 32 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 4: He's the GM for the Dodgers, right. I love this. 33 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 4: I think this is the way it's going to have 34 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 4: to get back to you. You have to have a mix. 35 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 4: I think everyone went to I'm not anti analytics, Trevor, 36 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 4: don't yell at me or anybody in Twitter world, but 37 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 4: there has to be a mix. You have to have 38 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 4: analytics and you have to have people that have stepped 39 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 4: into the box because one of the biggest things for 40 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 4: me as a player is being able to go to 41 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 4: a coach, somebody in the organization and say, what do 42 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 4: you feel I feel like this when I step into 43 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 4: the box. It's the bottom of the night and I 44 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 4: have to face Trevor May. He's trying to the game 45 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 4: and I need to get a hit. I'm feeling this, 46 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 4: How can you help me? And then they can say 47 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 4: why did that once? Or I did this or I 48 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 4: had this feeling and this is how I coped with it. 49 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 4: I think that's a big thing for players today, is 50 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 4: to have somebody in their space that they can have 51 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 4: say I did that, and I know what it feels like, 52 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 4: and this is how you can help and have different ideas. 53 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 4: Is it data driven? It can be. Is it feeling 54 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 4: driven it can be. Is it mechanical driven It can be. 55 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 4: But you got to have different options. And I don't 56 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 4: think you go all one way or all the other way. 57 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 4: You have to have a nice mix. And I think 58 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 4: the really smart ones that have success are the ones 59 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 4: that can do that the best. 60 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 3: So let's bring in Buck Showalter obviously has worked with 61 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 3: many different front offices throughout his career. Buck joining us 62 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 3: right now on FT to keep this combo going. Buck, 63 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 3: you got us? What's up? 64 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 1: Hey guys, Hey Trevor, how you doing? Man? 65 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 5: Good Buck? Good to see you. 66 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 4: Man. 67 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 5: I'm glad we got to do this together. It's awesome. 68 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: You know how you get a guy towards the end 69 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: of his career, and you know it's there, and he 70 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: just his body won't cooperate. But his heart's there. And 71 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: every once in a while Trevor would show it to 72 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: me and I'm like, dang, it's gotta be frustrating for 73 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: him because you know it's there, but the body just 74 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: wouldn't cooperate. He was a good one man. And you 75 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: know what about Trevor. Trevor wasn't scared, guys, he wasn't scared. 76 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: Here it is, man, see what you can do with it. 77 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: Here's mine, showed me yours. Okay, I'm done. 78 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 4: Okay, you keep guys. 79 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 5: I'm going there. You guys get it all right? 80 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 3: Yeah Trevor you're talking about he's got a great hat. 81 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: But but I'm with you. 82 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 4: But wall we got it. But did you hear did 83 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 4: you see the one Sodo conversation today about what he 84 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 4: said about Aaron Judge and not hitting behind him and 85 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 4: how it's harder for him now and how it's not 86 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 4: as easy with the best hitter in the world not 87 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 4: hitting behind him. What you think of those quotes? Because 88 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 4: you you managed in New Yorker a couple of different times. 89 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 4: What's how important is lineup construction? 90 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: It is to a point, but I think it becomes 91 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: a crutch sometimes I think I don't I don't what 92 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: happened before in years past and who was there, and 93 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: anything that reflects on my teammate or anything. I really 94 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: choose my words very carefully because somebody is hitting behind 95 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: him now and there's always those. Anytime you start making 96 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: comparison between teammates that you've had in the past and whatever, 97 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: that usually doesn't play well. It may be innocent, it 98 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: may be something that you know you didn't mean the 99 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: context in which it came out, but once you put 100 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: it out there, they're going to run with it. So 101 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: I would be very careful about reflecting on things I 102 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: had before that I don't have anymore. How's that. 103 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 5: Very well put? 104 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 6: Buff I got some questions about what it's like to 105 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 6: be on the hot seat as a manager. As we know, 106 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 6: the Twins end of the year not so great last year, 107 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 6: and they started this year not so great. It just 108 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 6: goes I mean, Rock Obaldelli's got to be thinking about 109 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 6: some of this stuff and what his future looks like. 110 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 6: If you started a season like this and you came 111 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 6: out with much higher expectations of what you're seeing on 112 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 6: the field. At what point, like what at what point 113 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 6: do you feel like you need to act and act quickly? 114 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 5: Is this like a right away hey guys, let's figure 115 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 5: this out. 116 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 6: Or is it how long do you give your team 117 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 6: time to breathe before you start to go flip some chairs? 118 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: Well, you know, first of all, you got to be sincere. 119 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: Nothing plays more quickly than a phony in a locker room. 120 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: You're around each other too much. If you do something 121 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: that's not sincere. Players, players realize that in a heartbeat, 122 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: and they really don't want to think that you're panicking 123 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: behind scenes. So you know, we talk about hot season. 124 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: You know, players are on a hot seat, so to speak. 125 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: I mean, we all have expectations. You know. The managers 126 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: and coaches aren't any different. Front offices have a little 127 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: bit more of a line. So I uh, I'm just 128 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: think in today's world, the shelf life of managers and 129 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: coaches is so much shorter because no one doesn't No 130 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: one wants to play the long game much anymore. They 131 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: want to play the short What have you done for 132 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: me lately? Instant gratification. You know, Friday is casual day 133 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: and all the different things that go on. That's fine 134 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: and Danny, but you I just at some point they can't. 135 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: Every manager understands the job description and where it might end, 136 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: and it's it's not always fair, trust me, it's not 137 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: always fair. But you understand that going in that at 138 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: some point your time is going to be done. You know, 139 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: I've been in places eight nine years. I've been in 140 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: places two years, three years. It's just, you know, things change, 141 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: and it's uncomfortable for families, it's uncomforable for people that 142 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: are reading all this stuff. But it's what they do, 143 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: and it's the job description. And you should not be 144 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: dealt with any harder than any easier than players. Every 145 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: day players come in, especially ones with options, and you're traded, 146 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: all the other different things are going on. It's a 147 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: very volatile job, and I think you understand the job 148 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: scription going in, Buck. 149 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 4: What's it like being a manager on the hot s 150 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 4: you've been there, there is there a moment when you 151 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 4: realize and I'm gonna get fired too. Is there a 152 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 4: switch in the way someone talks to you? Is there 153 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 4: a switch in the way you feel when you go 154 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 4: to the park. Every day you go to the park, 155 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 4: do you feel, gosh, I have to win to try 156 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 4: to save my job. I mean, you've been through it all. 157 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,679 Speaker 4: What's it like being one of these guys that people 158 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 4: are talking about their jobs and were early in April? 159 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: I didn't personally, you know, I realized every day a 160 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: j I woke up how lucky and honored I was 161 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: to do what I did, coming from my background and 162 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: every day. This is not just some cliches. I didn't 163 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: want the player's job to be any harder because what 164 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: I might personally be going through, and they didn't wish 165 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: that on any buddy. I think the challenge is to 166 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: continue to treat people the same and treat them fairly, 167 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: and that golden rule works pretty good, you know, and 168 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: regardless of your personal situation, I tried to go out 169 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: of my way. A lot of players would tell you 170 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: when we were doing poorly. I was actually more upbeat, 171 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: you know, And when we were at one, six or 172 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: seven in a row, you know, you want to be 173 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: on top of things and you continue. You know, baseball 174 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: season is stretching out the good times and shortening the 175 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: bad ones, because you know, a team that wins a 176 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: hundred games still looses sixty two. It's just there's I 177 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: don't think the people that haven't the people that haven't 178 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: been in the arena, don't understand the emotional and mental 179 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: ebbs and flows of the season. 180 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 5: AJA. 181 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 3: It is time for people to get some new clubs, 182 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 3: and to do that they need to go to their 183 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 3: local PXGI for a fitting, right. 184 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 4: No doubt. I was there today. I've been there before. 185 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 4: Last time I was there, they gave me this killer gap. 186 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 4: Way you look at that sweet spot, Scott, it is 187 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 4: worn out. That is right in the sweet spot right there. 188 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 4: So I went and got new club today, new irons. 189 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 4: But more importantly, I got this bad boy. I got 190 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 4: me a new putter. This is my old putter. It's 191 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 4: on order. Yes, that's my putter cover PXG Mustang putter. 192 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 4: Now I'm going to the Allen putter. They talked me 193 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 4: into it because I was draining some putts today. Bob, 194 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 4: the guy who helped me out. He helped me with 195 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 4: my irons. He got them ted up perfectly. But then 196 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 4: we went to the putt and green. I was draining 197 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 4: them putts because that's the most important part of golf. 198 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 7: PXG fittings are fun. 199 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: Schedule. 200 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: You're fitting today as you can hear from AJ For 201 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 3: a limited time, you could save up to twenty percent 202 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 3: on your entire order. 203 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 7: Head over to pxg dot com slash foul. That's pxg 204 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 7: dot com slash foul to save up to twenty percent 205 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 7: on your entire order pxg dot com slash f o 206 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 7: u L. Restrictions apply see site for details. 207 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 4: Fuck, what was your go to move? Was it flipping 208 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 4: a table? Was it breaking a fungo? Was it yelling 209 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,719 Speaker 4: and screaming, slamming a door? What was your what was buck? Showalters? 210 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 4: I'm gonna show these guys go to move? 211 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: What would I be showing on AJ? You know what? 212 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 4: I don't know. Sometimes managers just want to stay. You 213 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 4: know how angry I am. Guys, So I'm gonna throw 214 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 4: the table with food or I'm gonna yell at somebody 215 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 4: because just to show them. 216 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: No, you know it was I didn't. I didn't really 217 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: have a lot of that if it, if it ever happened, 218 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: it was sincere and it happened. And I think spontaneity 219 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: shows your true emotions. Sometimes we're always measured with the 220 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: media and all the different things. But that's why I'm 221 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: so protected of places where you can let your hair down. 222 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: Be a team at spring training, it's a bus, it's 223 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: an airplane, you know, the places where guys can be 224 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: themselves because the locker room is basically in an interview 225 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: room most of the time. So I didn't do a 226 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: lot of that aj you know. I we would talk 227 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: among ourselves and I would go, what do you guys think, 228 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: What's what's the issue? What should we You know, you 229 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: want to get input back from them and make them 230 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: feel ownership of what's going on. But you know, I 231 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 1: tried to stay real so to speak. You know, oh 232 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: my gosh, he's trying to show us how mad he is. Well, 233 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: you know, try raising your children like that and as 234 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: a parent and see how that works out. 235 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 4: So I get it. You. You learned this from John Russell, 236 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 4: your old bench coach, because we had him in Florida 237 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 4: State League and one time he had a meeting. We're 238 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 4: in Port Saint Lucy and he wasn't a man of 239 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 4: many words either, and he said, ay, we lost a game, 240 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 4: and he's like everybody in the locker room and he 241 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 4: just walks in there and he just looks at us 242 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 4: all and he just walks out and closes the door. 243 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 4: And we're all like, wait, what what just is he? 244 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 4: I guess he's mad at us? Like what just happened? 245 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 4: He didn't even say a word. He just literally looked 246 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 4: at us and went around the room and looked us 247 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 4: on the eye and then just turned and walked out. 248 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 4: We're like, I guess Dad's mad at us. 249 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: You know, guys, that there's so many as you guys know, 250 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: there's so many emotions that are that are transferred with 251 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: a look, with a you know, it isn't always verbal. 252 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: And we'll see who can yell all out us. You 253 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: want to lose an argument with an umpire, go out 254 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: there and scream and yell and not listen to a 255 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: thing he's saying. Most of my arguments that I've won 256 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: when baseball have been when I've kind of kept my 257 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: composure and talked on a civil tone of these guys. 258 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: But oh, there's a time and place and if you 259 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: talk enough people. I have had my moments, but it 260 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: was sincere. Yeah. I what you see is what you get. 261 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: You don't want to come across as a phony. Oh 262 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: my goodness, I've never seen this side of him. All 263 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: of a sudden, You're gonna win more games because the 264 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: guy was yelling at you, and every once in a 265 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: while you got to put a little you know what 266 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: in the gidea up and get a little I don't 267 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: like being too predictable, you know what I mean? You 268 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: like to throw a little unpredictability out there every once 269 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: in a while, Trevor, we. 270 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 5: Speaking about it, did we? No? 271 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: No? 272 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 6: You were you when there was when you had something 273 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 6: to talk about, you usually just went to the people 274 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 6: that you need to talk to about it with, or 275 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 6: if it was a team thing, you're like Francisco, Max, 276 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 6: come over here, we're gonna fix this. 277 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 4: Uh. 278 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 5: And I feel like that worked really well. 279 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 6: I think we won forty more games than we lost 280 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 6: that year, so I would see mission accomplished. 281 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: Remember the movie Theater? Right? 282 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, go on real quick? Yeah, go on it? 283 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 5: Wait movie there. I'm sorry, I'm confused. Now what are 284 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 5: we talking about? 285 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: Uh? Spring training? Starting spring training off? 286 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 5: Yeah? 287 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 4: Anyway, what did you guys get the movie theater and 288 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 4: get a popcorn and candy? I mean, what are we 289 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 4: missing here? Clearly it made a huge impression on Trevor. 290 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: I don't think I'll be there. Trevor may not have 291 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: been there first the night before spring training, we go 292 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: to a movie theater as a team, talk about a 293 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: lot of things without you know, a j I hated 294 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: spring training first day, and everybody's just ready to get 295 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: on the field and get it started. You got your 296 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: spikes one off that and what happens the train or 297 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: the traveling secretary, the manager of the hitting coats, the 298 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: pitching coasts, they all give this big spiel whatever different 299 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: departments they may have now, and they're sitting there for 300 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: an hour at least. And I hated that, and I said, 301 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that. So we did all 302 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: that the night before at a movie theater, had a 303 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: little movie, we played, talked about what we want to do, 304 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: and then when they got to the ballpark next day, 305 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: all they had to worry about was baseball. All the 306 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: others jump. 307 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I wasn't there. I remember why I was. 308 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 6: And it took me almost three days to get down 309 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 6: to Florida because I had two flights get canceled and 310 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 6: it was just I was in Houston for like thirty 311 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 6: six hours. 312 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 5: So that's why I missed it. Okay, that's all makes 313 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 5: sense now, I do. 314 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 6: Speaking of also, unpredictability, like you were mentioning before we 315 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 6: got to see the ABS system in spring. I want 316 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 6: to get your take on it. How do you feel 317 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 6: about how that was implemented. Do you like the challenge 318 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 6: system as opposed to just robo umpires, because I know 319 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 6: I do, I know AJ does, but definitely want your 320 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 6: take on it. 321 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: AJ does or doesn't. 322 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 6: He likes challenges much more than he likes just robo umpires, 323 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 6: getting them all right all the time. 324 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: I hate to say this, but I agree with y'all. 325 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna find out in our hurry, which like, 326 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: can you imagine the first thing? I may have the 327 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: rules wrong, bear with me, but you found out very 328 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: quickly who you can trust with because in the first 329 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: in and first at bad, if somebody uses a challenge 330 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: and he's not right and the rest of the team suffers, 331 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: you're going to find out very quickly who has an 332 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: idea about what they're challenging. I do like it. I 333 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: think it's coming and it's another way that fans can 334 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: trust the game. They can trust at A ball's a ball. 335 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: It strikes a strike, and no outside element is going 336 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: to figure into the w or L. We're going to 337 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: get it right. I still think we should review more things. 338 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: And I don't know why they automatically say, well, that's unreviewable. 339 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: Why let's get it right. There was an obstruction play 340 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: the other night with Pittsburgh, and you know, obviously a 341 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: very good umpire missed the obstruction when two guys were 342 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: laying in the foul line. The guy had to run 343 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: around them. That should be reviewed. 344 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 4: Oh, just don't run into each other when you're catching 345 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 4: a pop up. And you know that's what I said. 346 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: I said, why are you going to penalize the offense 347 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: because two guys didn't communicate very well? 348 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know, but it's amazing. They're 349 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 4: all nice somepires. Now that you're not managing anymore, they're 350 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 4: all great umpires in your managing. I guarantee you didn't 351 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 4: say that. But when you're saying, when Bucks show, Walter's 352 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 4: sitting at home in his green room with his Tube 353 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 4: TV that he still has on and you trying to 354 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 4: get the wires the antenna's right to watch the local game. 355 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 4: What drives you crazy when you watch games at home? 356 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 4: But what's the thing you look and say, Man, I 357 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 4: wish they would change this. 358 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know They've done a lot of things. 359 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: You know, I've been on those competition committees, and you 360 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: find out when you go in and go why don't 361 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: they do this? Why don't they do this? And you 362 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: realize that they've been working on it for two years 363 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: trying to get all the kinks out of it. I 364 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: would probably say I wish they had somebody in control 365 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: of quality control of a ball game where dugouts are 366 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: the same home and away, where foul ground is similar, 367 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: where the warning track is not twelve feet on one 368 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: field and ten on the next, where bullpen mounds are 369 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: the same, they're not different heights or links or you know, 370 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: in different directions. I mean, when you warm up with 371 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: Trevor had a good curve ball. When you warm up 372 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: into the wind and all of a sudden you get 373 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: on the field and you're throwing against the wind, it's 374 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: a different curveball. Things like that. This quality control the 375 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: batting cages for the visiting team, just something that controls 376 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: the quality and the consistency. Hey, you want to be 377 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,479 Speaker 1: an expansion team, you want to be whatever. You have 378 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,239 Speaker 1: to meet certain criteria. Your fences have to be a 379 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: certain height, they have to have certain padding on them. 380 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: It's all about safety for me. Some of these spring 381 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: training facilities. I know there's a field without naming it. 382 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: I wouldn't take our bedroom players on the road because 383 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: it was a safety issue. I just think I'd like 384 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: to see the quality control of a major league facility 385 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: be consistent throughout the game. How's that that makes sense? 386 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 4: All right? Buck? Where were you in nineteen ninety eight. 387 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: I was starting the first year of the Diamondbacks. 388 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 4: Were you the manager of the Diamondbacks? 389 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: Yes? 390 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 4: Okay, because I was in Triple A in Salt Lake 391 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 4: City and we went to Tucson. Yeah, you're talking about No, 392 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,719 Speaker 4: you were talking quality control. Now I want to know, 393 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,719 Speaker 4: and this is a truth, and you tell me if 394 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 4: I'm lying. We had Paul Molitor on rehab the only 395 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 4: Triple A games he ever played in his life. We're 396 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 4: in Tucson. It's like August. It's one hundred and seventy 397 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 4: two degrees in Tucson Electric Park. Down there. You guys 398 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 4: had air conditioned cages. You would not let us use 399 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 4: the air conditioned cages. And Paul Molitor was pissed, and 400 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 4: he went out and hit for the cycle. By the way, 401 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 4: in that game, his only triple A game he ever 402 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 4: played it. He hit for the cycle at forty five 403 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 4: years old. Why didn't you let us use those air 404 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 4: conditioned cages? 405 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: First of all, aj, that's another myth that you've chosen. 406 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 5: No, that is true. 407 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 4: That is truth. They said Buck show Walter said, you 408 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 4: guys cannot use him, you have to hit outside. 409 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: Well, I think the manager then was Chris Fire. He 410 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: probably used me because he didn't want him to hit 411 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: over there, because I would always let Paul hit me. 412 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't just. 413 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 4: Paul, not the rest is just Paul, not the rest 414 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 4: of the team. 415 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 1: First of all, I would never do that, if you 416 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: know me. So that's another myth that you're perpetuating, and 417 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: I would not. So many things there in Arizona about 418 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: socks and hats that I laugh about now because we didn't. 419 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: We did none of that stuff. The only thing we 420 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: did we had a mannequin in the middle of the 421 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: locker room the first year because we had five hats, 422 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: five jerseys, four pants, three belts, three socks. Finally, I said, 423 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: go down to Sears and Roebuck by mannequin, put it 424 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: in the middle of locker room and dress it every day. 425 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: But what happened. God started messing around with the mannequin, 426 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: so we had to get that out of there. 427 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 4: I just that was what I mean. Listen, that's a 428 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 4: true story. I don't care what Buck says. Buck might 429 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 4: say it didn't say, but I know he said it. 430 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: Because they're on the phone. 431 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 4: And then you know what happened is we went back 432 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 4: there because you Then your team came, your Tucson team 433 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 4: came to Salt Lake and we had inside cages and 434 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 4: they said we want to use the cages. Were like none, no, no, 435 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 4: Bucks said no. And then next time we went to Tucson. 436 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 4: I guess who got to hit inside the buzz. 437 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: Definitely not true. Somebody must have used my name to 438 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: get something done they wanted to do personally, so I 439 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: would never do that. Or you. They protected you in 440 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: the expansion draft. I always wanted you on a club, 441 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: but I could never get you. People look used to 442 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: go look at him, and I go, why are you 443 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: looking at it? 444 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 5: You like to win. 445 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: That's what I liked about you. 446 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 4: You like to win, and I like to hit inside 447 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 4: an air conditioning and forty seven. 448 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 3: Degrees, Tod father, I'm looking for premium clothes at an 449 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 3: affordable price. I wanted to fit nice. 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Now 471 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 4: you're a Stargville legend, stargree Misissippi, Florida. My team is 472 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 4: playing Mississippi State in baseball? Is there anything I need 473 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 4: to see? Because I've never been to a game at 474 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 4: Duty Noble, So what do I need to experience while 475 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 4: I'm at the Dude, you could. 476 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: Go out to left field loss you you know they've 477 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: led the nation I think in attendance for like ten 478 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: or fifteen years in a row. Yeah, I went back. 479 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: I sawn two contracts, one with the Yankees and one 480 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: with my parents. I'd go back and finish my agree, 481 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: which I did. Uh Starkbull. 482 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 4: Uh. 483 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: It was a dry county when I was there. I 484 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: don't think it is anymore. You'll be impressed. You'll be impressed. 485 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: Good facility there. They've had a tough year so far, 486 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: but they just had a good series. I follow him. 487 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: Good food around there, get there early aj and soak 488 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: in the atmosphere. 489 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 4: I can do that. It's not a dry county anymore. 490 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 4: I was gonna say, as far from it is a 491 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 4: wet county now. 492 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, we uh not that. I had heard that rumor 493 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: that it was dry, but you know we didn't have 494 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: time for that. I was Ron Polk's first recruiting class. 495 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 4: There a j Wow. I love Ron Polk. He's still around, man, 496 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 4: he still walks around and says, Hi, everybody's he's amazing. 497 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 1: I think he's doing the color commentary. You'll see him there. 498 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: Tell him I said hello, he's I learned a lot 499 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: of baseball from him. 500 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 2: Fuck, I got one more for you. I'm gonna jump in. 501 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 3: Did you see Trout who obviously hasn't played much right, 502 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 3: but he jumps for the ball and the fan kind 503 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 3: of grabs the baseball wasn't as agree, just says what 504 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 3: happened in the World Series. 505 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 2: But do you think everything's fine? 506 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 3: I mean, this stuff's been going on for a while, obviously, 507 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 3: contact with fans and players when they're jumping trying to get. 508 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: A foul ball. 509 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 2: Are you okay with the way that all played out? 510 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: Well, I go back to the quality controlled thing. There's 511 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: a way to keep it from happening if you want to. 512 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: You're trying to worry about the fans experience, Like we've 513 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: got this netting up now all the way down the 514 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: foul line, and we all go, geez, why did we 515 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: do this? Years ago, we've all been at batting practice 516 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: or games where people just have gotten hit. Really it's 517 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: really ugly to see, and they fixed it. They could 518 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: fix that. You don't want to move the seats back, 519 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: but there's a way to put a barrier up there, 520 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: so to speak, to keep that from happening in the outfield. 521 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: And you could do it and the foul ground down 522 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: where that happened. But you know number got the call 523 00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: right the way the way the rulesers stayed. You know, 524 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: here's one where you got no foul ground at all 525 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: down that corner. But you're trying to enhance the fans 526 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 1: experience by getting them close. But you know, why is 527 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: this guy giving him high five? I don't know. Look 528 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: what I did, but I could you imagine how ticked 529 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: off you'd be if you were going to make that play. 530 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what do you guys think. I mean, 531 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 1: it's you could fix it. You could fix it. 532 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 4: I said that put the nets up all the way 533 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,239 Speaker 4: down like they do in Japan. They have nets all 534 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 4: the way down the foul lines and you can't jump 535 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 4: in the stands. But then fans complain, Oh it hurts 536 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 4: our view. 537 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: You know. I've been to Japan two or three times 538 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: and there's so many I picked up some things over 539 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:41,719 Speaker 1: there they do things. There's things you can pick up 540 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: over there, and you go, gosh, why don't we do that? 541 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: You know. 542 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 4: Cheerleaders? 543 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: You said, no, I think there's there's all something else 544 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: over there. But I love the way they take batt 545 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: in practice. I love the way they did their warning tracks. 546 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: I picked up something the way they did their warning tracks. 547 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: If you look at opening day with the Diamondbacks, we 548 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: did our warning track different. We did it. We stole 549 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: it from a team in soul CAREA. 550 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 4: What'd you do? 551 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 7: Well? 552 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: Basically, you know you got X number of steps when 553 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: you warning track is so you can look at the 554 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: ball and know how close you are the fence. That's 555 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: why they should all be the same distance, because you know, 556 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: if there's a three step warning track in one place 557 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: and a four four step warning track, it messes you up. 558 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: So there they had put grass about six feet and 559 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: right next to the fence, so you could run on grass. 560 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: You fill the center of a warning track, but as 561 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: soon as you felt grass again, you know you had 562 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: one step on a jump and we had more great catches. 563 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: Steve Finley loved it. Louigan Zalas and other teams were 564 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: getting gator arms as they got close to the fence, 565 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: but we couldn't keep the grass growing. There was no sunlight, 566 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: so we ended up having to take it out. But 567 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: it was fun for about a month. 568 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 4: Wow, that's cool, all right, that's cool. By the way, 569 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 4: you I can see you love in the two batting 570 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 4: practice hitters at once. The way you can get the 571 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 4: guy from Mississippi State that throws with both arms and 572 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 4: he could throw to both guys at the same time. 573 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: You can get somebody killed there too. The rule was, 574 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: I talked to their guy. The rule was never if 575 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: you muscleball, never go after or pick it up. There's 576 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: another one coming. It's rapid fire. I think it's a 577 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: little too rapid quite frankly. 578 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 2: VP. 579 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 4: Yeah they do. And they hit two hit two guys 580 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 4: at the same time. Oh wow, Yeah, two guys throwing, 581 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 4: two guys hitting at the same time. 582 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: You know what they had, You know what they had? 583 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: They had? What do you call that thing when you 584 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: play the piano that gives you the beat? What is it? 585 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: Trevor knows, I know something metrodome. They would play that 586 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: over the bout speaker at a certain pace and you 587 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:53,959 Speaker 1: go fungo, pitch, fungo, pitch and you never broke up 588 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: that rhythm of of the VP. And we used to 589 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: do that with We'd set a clock up for infield. 590 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: If you want to do a fast infield, you put 591 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: it at four to one four flat, and if you 592 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: want to do a slow infield, you set it at 593 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: like four to six. It was the only way we 594 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: could get some of the young seventeen eighteen year old 595 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: kids to slow their game down. Some of these kids 596 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: would come out of the Latin Academy and Dominican and 597 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: they would be just so fast. We couldn't get them 598 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: to slow them down, and so we slowed them down 599 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: with a clock and said, I don't want you to 600 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: get the ball over there. See how long you can 601 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: take to get the ball to first base. It was tough. 602 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: Wow, that's crazy. 603 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is to me the stuff that Buck comes 604 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 4: up with. He loves warning tracks, he loves the detail. 605 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 2: We got to you know, h you. 606 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 1: Know what, like you were always looking like we sit 607 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: in the room and you go, how do we slow 608 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,239 Speaker 1: this guy down? He's going too fast, And we had 609 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 1: to come up as a coach, you have to come 610 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: up with the way that you don't go, Hey, slow 611 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: down you've got to give them something to slow them down. 612 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: So we got a water polo clock from the Olympic coach. 613 00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: It was the only one that you could put out 614 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: side and if it rained, it was not a problem. 615 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: And we would set it where the buzzer would go 616 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: off at zero and we'd started like four three four 617 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: four whatever, And that is how we got some of 618 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 1: our kids American in Latin, to slow down. 619 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 2: We hit all the word bingo in this one. 620 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 4: That's waterful buck. 621 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 2: We got a jump, but this was awesome. 622 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 3: Obviously we're gonna we're gonna have you swinging by here 623 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 3: and there, so appreciate it. 624 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 2: Great to have you on. We'll get you back, Supper Trevor. 625 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: Good to see a good man you got there. Don't 626 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: mess him up. 627 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 4: We'll try and work on that. 628 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 2: Ajmi are pretty pretty rough as you know. Bud. Thank you. 629 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 4: We'll talk seeing 630 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: Bless you got thank you here