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Speaker 1: Let's go Gians. I like it out on the Giants Bubbling,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast. It's

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Speaker 1: our off season interview series. You go position by position

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Speaker 1: talking to members of the Giants heading into training camp.

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Speaker 1: This year, we're gonna lead off with quarterbacks and now

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Speaker 1: we welcome in Giants quarterback Jameis Winston. Jamis, how's it going, man?

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Speaker 2: Man blessed bro.

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Speaker 1: So you're always one of the first guys here and

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Speaker 1: you're always one of the last guys out. What has

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Speaker 1: it been like trying to really sink your teeth into

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Speaker 1: this offense and learn it in such a short period

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Speaker 2: Brother, It's one of the most challenging offenses that I've

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Speaker 3: So really just being immersed in it and being grateful,

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Speaker 3: like just to have that that youthful learning back, like

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Speaker 3: being challenged by offense that I don't know, and especially

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Speaker 3: doing into OTAs with limited reps is amazing.

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Speaker 1: What makes it more difficult.

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Speaker 2: The concepts are very similar. You see that all over

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Speaker 3: But I feel like that the freedom and the access

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Speaker 3: There's so much on us, whether it be man beaters,

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Speaker 3: whether it be one word calls that have the protection,

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Speaker 3: the formation and alerts intertwined in the whole call, that

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Speaker 3: that's very a lot. That's a lot, and sometimes like

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Speaker 3: you have things that correlate together, like if like R

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Speaker 3: But this is is a lot of memorization, Like you

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Speaker 3: have a lot of different words and verbets that doesn't

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Speaker 1: So this is complicated in a good way, in a

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Speaker 1: complicated in a way that empowers you as a quarterback

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I think that's one of one of the

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Speaker 3: biggest parts of being a quarterback in general, is mastering

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Speaker 3: not just a quarterback to know their stuff, but it

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Speaker 3: It requires your receivers and running backs to be on

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Speaker 1: Now you mentioned limited reps in in the spring, right,

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Speaker 1: you guys have four quarterbacks you're trying to get reps

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Speaker 1: for and they've been kind of moving Jackson around, and

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Speaker 1: you know, normal training camp it's you know, four plays,

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Speaker 1: four plays, four plays. That hasn't really been the case

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Speaker 1: in the spring. It's limited reps. So how has it

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Speaker 3: You know, one thing that I've experienced over the past

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Speaker 3: for every moment that I get to step by Dan

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Speaker 2: Man. So that's been the most inciting part.

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Speaker 1: You have a rookie and Jackson dor in the room,

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Speaker 1: It doesn't like he's gonna have to do that, which

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just talked to him about man using his resources,

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Speaker 1: You have a pretty unique leadership style. Everyone here is

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Man, I remember one one instance, especially in the NFL,

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Speaker 3: I was trying to please others.

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Speaker 2: You know, I was just trying to, you know.

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Speaker 3: Show everyone that I was just a good guy and

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Speaker 3: being who you truly are and being that unapologetically. And

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Speaker 3: it was just time like this moment with with Sham

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Speaker 3: Sean was like, hey, we ain't kissing, no babies, Like

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Speaker 3: he was like, man, get out of here, like he

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Speaker 3: We're already we're not in the TSA line, like we

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Speaker 3: not kissing babies and that right then I was like,

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Speaker 3: you know, I can build good person without someone else

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Speaker 3: you can be unapologically unapologetical with you and original and

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Speaker 3: something like so it's okay, you know, yes that person

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Speaker 3: matter what anyone else thinks. It's about what It's about

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Speaker 3: what you do. It's about your own individual actions to

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Speaker 1: Manning, that's a great answer. I want to ask about

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Speaker 1: the wide receivers. What do you think of this wide

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Speaker 3: Man It's a it's a very impressive round receiver crew.

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Speaker 3: Man? I've played with some Hall of Fame receivers and

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Speaker 1: All right, now we're joined by Giants rookie quarterback Jackson

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Speaker 1: Dart and Jackson we just said jamis here. It's airing

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Speaker 1: been in the league like eight nine years and he's like, Dude,

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Speaker 1: this is the most complic offense I've ever had to

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Speaker 4: I have great guys in the room, great coaching staff

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Speaker 1: Now that you're here, What are some of the things

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Speaker 4: I think conceptionally I've pretty much ran, you know, all

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Speaker 4: So I'm really excited to to implement, you know, this

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm really excited for the season.

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Speaker 1: Now it makes it more complicated for you. But are

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Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, this is what separates this

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Speaker 2: And I love that part of it because it lets

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Speaker 4: And you know, you've seen the success level on such

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Speaker 4: I'm really excited for this year. I'm really excited for

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Speaker 1: Drinking from a fire holes is an expression that a

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Speaker 1: When you hit training camp, the pads come on, you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that during this time that I've been

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Speaker 1: Awesome. Final question, Russell Wilson came in year one, he

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Speaker 4: I think that that's something that Russ does so well.

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Speaker 4: and this is leadership presence. You know, that's been huge

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Speaker 4: I can just take something away from him every single day,

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Speaker 4: which has been such a blessing. But at the same time,

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Speaker 4: You're right, you got to develop fast, and you gotta

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Speaker 4: be ready to play because you never know when your chance.

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Speaker 2: Is gonna come. And definitely not gonna let that slip.

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Speaker 1: Jackson, good stuff in best luck, good seeing you man,

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Speaker 1: Thank you you. Great stuff from the QBS there. Good

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Speaker 1: to hear from the guys that go to be under

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Speaker 1: into twenty twenty five. That's all the time we after.

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Speaker 1: The Johnsontle Podcast, brought to you by Citizens, the official

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Speaker 1: Bank of the Giants. We'll see you next time.

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Speaker 2: Everybody,