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Speaker 2: Michael Pittman Junior.

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Speaker 4: Twenty fifty two five touchdown. Jonathan Taylor take forty nine

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Speaker 3: In the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio Studio.

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Speaker 4: Let's get the podcast started. Welcome to the OCP, the

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Speaker 4: Official Colts Podcast. The Living Room, joined weekend and week

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Speaker 4: out by Ms. Lara Overton, Mister JJ Stakovitz. I'm Jeffrey Gorman. Guys,

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Speaker 4: A lot to go over what we're gonna be talking

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Speaker 4: about this upcoming uh the OTA period, the Ricky Mini

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Speaker 4: who is our official representative. She covers at Kentucky Derby

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Speaker 4: Fear for the Official Colts podcast and you were down

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Speaker 4: He respond it, Yes, correspondent, And a couple of fun

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Speaker 4: He had some good connections, good connections they're speaking of

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Speaker 4: Hey on Twitter X at JJ Stankowitz, at Larra Overton.

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Speaker 4: Let's get to what we're sitting down to talk a

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Speaker 3: is just absolutely phenomenal with developing that group and what

438
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Speaker 3: you saw that they were able to do with the

439
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Speaker 3: rotation of tit ands last year.

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Speaker 2: To me, it's Jelannie Woods.

441
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Speaker 3: We have no idea what Jelannie Woods with Anthony Richardson

442
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Speaker 3: looks like because of the injuries that Jelanni battled through

443
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Speaker 3: all of last season and then obviously.

444
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Speaker 2: The injury to Anthony.

445
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Speaker 3: So I think Jilani's a guy you invested a draft

446
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Speaker 3: pick in, right, like, you've got to see it. And

447
00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,199
Speaker 3: we saw it in his rookie season, right with the

448
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Speaker 3: game winning touchdowns that he was able to have.

449
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Speaker 2: It's so compelling, and it's just all about he has

450
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Speaker 2: to stay healthy.

451
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Speaker 3: I think, you know, Bo has continued to just kind

452
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Speaker 3: of steadily progress, especially last year as a blocker in

453
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Speaker 3: this offense. And what you were able he was able

454
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Speaker 3: to give you. Man, Yeah, you've got to see it.

455
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Speaker 3: You've got to see July stay healthy. And I think

456
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Speaker 3: that when you get to VET Mini camp in June,

457
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,040
Speaker 3: a lot of guys are going to be on that

458
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Speaker 3: position and on him with exactly what that looks like.

459
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Speaker 3: I do think that it was really encouraging what you

460
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Speaker 3: saw from Will Mallory late in this season, thrust into

461
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Speaker 3: tough situations and what he that element he brought and

462
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Speaker 3: then you kind of look at a lot of those guys.

463
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Speaker 3: I mean, Kylin is completely different from really the rest

464
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Speaker 3: of what those guys give you at that position.

465
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Speaker 2: So what are you doing?

466
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Speaker 3: What other aspect does he bring in compliment to some

467
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Speaker 3: of those guys? A little bit of you know, a

468
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Speaker 3: hybrid between what you get out of the wide receiver

469
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Speaker 3: group and your tight end group.

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Speaker 2: I was bringing up this argument the other day.

471
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Speaker 3: Is it funny that when you look at our group

472
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Speaker 3: of tight ends, the majority of them were not tight

473
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Speaker 3: ends to start out? Like or like Will Mallory really

474
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Speaker 3: the only one because you look, Mo played college basketball,

475
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 3: didn't start playing foot until he came into the league.

476
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Speaker 3: Jelani was a quarterback to start his college career, Drew

477
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 3: Ogletree was a receiver, Kylen Granson was a receiver, And

478
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Speaker 3: these guys have all kind of.

479
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Speaker 2: Been converted into the position.

480
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Speaker 3: So the ceiling is incredibly high for a lot of

481
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Speaker 3: those guys still trying to master playing this position in

482
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Speaker 3: the NFL within this offense.

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Speaker 1: I think the question I have about the tight ends is,

484
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Speaker 1: and like you mentioned, Jeffrey, how many get kept? But

485
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Speaker 1: does anyone develop into that like number one guys? Because

486
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Speaker 1: right now the Colts have a bunch of good players

487
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Speaker 1: in that room who collectively, if you look at some

488
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Speaker 1: of the numbers they had last year, they were like

489
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Speaker 1: third inexplosive play rate among tight ends if you take everyone,

490
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Speaker 1: but individually there was no one who ranked in the

491
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Speaker 1: top fifteen or twenty I think that's okay, but I

492
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Speaker 1: do think you want to see it ideally you kind

493
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Speaker 1: of get that Dallas Goddard. You know that Shane had

494
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Speaker 1: in field.

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Speaker 3: What this offense looked like with like Eric Ebron, Jack

496
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Speaker 3: Doyle right right? That that tandem how you know threatening

497
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Speaker 3: that was like that twenty eighteen year that Eberon had

498
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Speaker 3: with Luck.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

501
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Speaker 1: Now it's not a like dead On. You have to

502
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Speaker 1: have this thing. You like to have production out of

503
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Speaker 1: your tight ends regardless how you get it. But does

504
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Speaker 1: someone maybe ascend to that level where it's like, all right,

505
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Speaker 1: this guy's kind of our clear cut, bona fide number

506
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Speaker 1: one tight end in that room, because if not, I

507
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Speaker 1: mean I think there do you see that happening? Is

508
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Speaker 1: that player developed in training camp? Do we find that

509
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Speaker 1: can be comes out? Tight end development takes laws. It's

510
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Speaker 1: not a like a microwaveable process. It kind of you

511
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Speaker 1: see a lot of guys emerge in year three, in

512
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Speaker 1: year four, even into year five of their NFL careers.

513
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Speaker 1: So it's not like because none of these guys have

514
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Speaker 1: maybe done it yet doesn't mean that it's not in them.

515
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Speaker 1: They can't do it. So we'll see.

516
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Speaker 2: Also not every team has one.

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Speaker 3: I mean, how many true those type of tight ends

518
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Speaker 3: like you're talking about obviously, you know you've got Kelsey

519
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Speaker 3: and Kittle and Goddard, those type of guys.

520
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Speaker 2: You know, you think about zach Ertz from a few

521
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Speaker 2: years ago.

522
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Speaker 3: Even like how many of those are they're only ten

523
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Speaker 3: fifteen right now.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know about fifteen. I think I think

525
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Speaker 1: it's probably you count on two hands how many there are. Yeah,

526
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Speaker 1: but we'll see. I mean, those guys have talent, and

527
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Speaker 1: you know, if one of them could make that jump

528
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Speaker 1: that doesn't again it doesn't. This isn't like a make

529
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Speaker 1: or break thing. But if you can't get that, I

530
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Speaker 1: think that's better than the sort of spread out. But

531
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Speaker 1: the spread out thing works if that's what you got.

532
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Speaker 1: And we saw Shane use that kind of spread the

533
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Speaker 1: ball thing. You know that all those seam balls to

534
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Speaker 1: you know, Mallory and ogle Tree and those guys where

535
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Speaker 1: it's just like Anthony Richard sinder Gardner got the ball

536
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Speaker 1: and bammed that guy's wide open fifteen yards downfield. Just

537
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Speaker 1: get them the ball. Those type of routes are really valuable.

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Speaker 3: My Indiana is showing so bad because every time when

539
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Speaker 3: you said Dallas Goddard, and when I had to say it,

540
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Speaker 3: I havepen to say not Dallas Clark, like because I

541
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Speaker 3: just defaulted.

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Speaker 2: I mean, and it's like, yeah, right time, every time.

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Speaker 4: Only so many Dallas as a Dallas Taylor, Dallas Flowers.

544
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Speaker 4: I would call Dallas Taylor a rest in peace again,

545
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Speaker 4: a guy I knew from La Dallas Clark all the time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, I just I just had a transition here

547
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Speaker 1: to talk about some other guys who the Colts are

548
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Speaker 1: going to count on. How about Dallas Flowers. And he's

549
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Speaker 1: in that bucket with Jalen Jones, he's an Dallas.

550
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Speaker 2: To clarify, that's a d l Yeah, got you Dallas correct.

551
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Speaker 1: But those corners are kind of in that bucket where

552
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Speaker 1: the Colts have said, hey, last year, we we liked

553
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Speaker 1: the experience you got, we liked some of the stuff

554
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Speaker 1: you did. It needs to be more consistent and you

555
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 1: need to be more available, but we are not going

556
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Speaker 1: to go splash for a corner. We are not going

557
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Speaker 1: to Does.

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Speaker 4: That mean no veteran brought in from here on out?

559
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Speaker 1: I mean that could still happen, uh, but I'm not

560
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Speaker 1: I'm not so sure that it does and so I

561
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Speaker 1: pulled this up today. I was doing an article on Tuesday,

562
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Speaker 1: just you know Kenny and Kenny Moore and Gus Bradley

563
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Speaker 1: last week kind of talked about the corners and why

564
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Speaker 1: they're confident in them. Juju Brentz last year in man coverage.

565
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Speaker 1: This is something Rick vent Terre's talked a lot about

566
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Speaker 1: how the Colts need to maybe play a little bit

567
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Speaker 1: more man with their corners. Well, Juju Brentz last year

568
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Speaker 1: had a Pro Football Focus coverage grade in man coverage

569
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Speaker 1: of ninety point eight that was the second highest in

570
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Speaker 1: the NFL in a group that included Sauce Gardner and

571
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Speaker 1: Derek Stingley who were below him. So you've got some

572
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Speaker 1: talented guys in this group Juju. I kind of viewed

573
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Speaker 1: Juju almost as like defensive Anthony Richardson, where we saw

574
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Speaker 1: the flashes from him. It needs to be more consistent.

575
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Speaker 1: But the big thing with him is he's got to

576
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Speaker 1: stay healthy. If Juju can find a way to stay healthy,

577
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Speaker 1: even in that small sample size of last year, I

578
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Speaker 1: saw a lot from him that makes me believe he

579
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Speaker 1: can be a good corner in the NFL.

580
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Speaker 4: He didn't I want to be careful I say this,

581
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Speaker 4: he didn't get the opportunity to play man as much

582
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Speaker 4: as maybe he will this year. Is that an accurate

583
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Speaker 4: statement with I mean they played something like seventy eight

584
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Speaker 4: or eighty two percent zone last year. I'm saying so, yeah,

585
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Speaker 4: like his you know, but his resume on that will

586
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Speaker 4: be a small sample size of my accurate on it.

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Speaker 1: It's I think I think you can earn more of

588
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Speaker 1: those within the defense as it goes on, you know,

589
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Speaker 1: cause you to play man coverage, you got they gotta

590
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Speaker 1: trust you, right, that has to be a high level

591
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Speaker 1: of trust to be manned out there. Yeah, but I

592
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Speaker 1: you know, you think about the PBu that Brent's had

593
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Speaker 1: in the end zone on DeVante Adams where he was

594
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Speaker 1: manned up one on one against the best receiver in

595
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Speaker 1: the NFL, maybe one of the best, and he turned,

596
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Speaker 1: got his head around, he swatted the ball away. He

597
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Speaker 1: was in tight coverage. It was a great play. That's

598
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Speaker 1: the kind of upside that Juju has. And you're right,

599
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like you're going to play a

600
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Speaker 1: ton of man, But even the guys who play the

601
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Speaker 1: most man in the NFL are they're still playing zone.

602
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Speaker 1: Probably more than half the time. It's not necessary. The

603
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 1: way the game is just the way the game is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, Ello, you had a great sit down with

605
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Speaker 4: Jordan rod Rieg from the Athletic talking about Leatu Latu

606
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Speaker 4: and his development. We're gonna hear from that in a minute.

607
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Speaker 4: But another segue. The addition, not the addition, but the

608
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Speaker 4: extension that we saw for Quitty pay and what he

609
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Speaker 4: means to this defense option. Yeah, yeah, what he means

610
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Speaker 4: to this defensive line room. They showed what he means

611
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Speaker 4: by paying this young man thirteen and a half million dollars.

612
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Speaker 4: Now you've got everybody's talking about the new kid on

613
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Speaker 4: the block, Leatu obviously coming in here. How do you

614
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Speaker 4: think that will their friendship, which is i even off

615
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Speaker 4: the colts football field?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

617
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Speaker 4: How he's going to help the rookie in this in

618
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Speaker 4: this year his first year in the NFL and we're

619
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Speaker 4: talking about the fifth year.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you actually, so as soon as Latu was drafted,

621
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Speaker 3: I figured out that Quitty had trained with him with

622
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Speaker 3: coach Ed. Coach Ed is a defensive line pass rush

623
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Speaker 3: coach out in LA who trains a ton of NFL guys,

624
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 3: few collegians in there as well, so Quitty has known

625
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 3: law To for a while, so texted him. He said,

626
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 3: elite pass rush, ability to win games with our room alone,

627
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 3: becoming the best D line in the NFL. That is

628
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 3: the endorsement. That is the endorsement. Yes, yeah, I mean

629
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Speaker 3: he doesn't get much better than that. And when I

630
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Speaker 3: had I had a lot to for our one on

631
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Speaker 3: one for I sit down and brought that up and

632
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Speaker 3: he was just so overwhelmed, like with that endorsement, like

633
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Speaker 3: what that meant to him, And he talked about how

634
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Speaker 3: excited he is to play with, you know, not only

635
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Speaker 3: the defensive line, but when he was leaving the draft,

636
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 3: he ran into Desire Franklin in the hotel and z

637
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 3: had a chance to say, you know, hey, can't wait

638
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 3: to get you excited, you know, fired up to have

639
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 3: you and all that, and he was like, oh my god,

640
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 3: like he was almost not like starstruck in that way,

641
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 3: but still like just kind of like a little bit

642
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 3: like overwhelmed it like, oh, Zire was coming up to

643
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 3: him and you know, reaching out to him and welcoming

644
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 3: him to the team, and how excited he was. I said, yeah,

645
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 3: there's a pretty good guy to set the tone of

646
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 3: what to expect for the defense. You met the right guy,

647
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 3: you know, if Zira Franklin's the first guy post draft

648
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 3: that you're seeing as you're headed to Indy.

649
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 4: But big year for Quiddy.

650
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh okay, big year as in important, important, valuable

651
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: member of this defense year for lady. I think it

652
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,239
Speaker 1: was I want to get this right, so sorry if

653
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: I don't, but I think it was Zach Hicks on Twitter.

654
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: He had a point that was like in our culture

655
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: where it's like you're either if you're a first run pick,

656
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,959
Speaker 1: you're the superstar or you're a bust. Quitty pay is is.

657
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: He's a good football player. He defends the run really well.

658
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: He's got some pass rushing juice, but he hasn't had

659
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: a double digit SAX season, so some people might be like, well,

660
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: why'd you pick up his fifth year option. He's not

661
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: that good. There are other things that he does that

662
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: are so vital to this defense. He pushes the pocket

663
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: as kind of that that power guy at defensive end.

664
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: But quitd He's just he's a good football player. There

665
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: is a lot of value in being a good football player,

666
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: and he it's it's against the run, it's against the pass.

667
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: Picking up his fifth year option made a ton of sense.

668
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: And he's also been really available right the last last

669
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: year especially, he he really increased his availability. But I think,

670
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: you know, and Chris Ballard said, we think there's you

671
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: know a little more in there. Gus Bradley said, we

672
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: think there's a little more in there. You know, some

673
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: some defensive ends there they develop on different timelines, and

674
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: Quity going into your four could see another jump in

675
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: his sack production. I think you want to see a

676
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: jump in his pressure production. But if Quitty is who

677
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: he was last year again this year, there is no

678
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: problem with that. That's a good football player, an important

679
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: part of your defense, and a guy who you trust

680
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: on every single snap that he's out.

681
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 3: You've also had quite a bit of rotation among defensive

682
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,239
Speaker 3: line coaches since Quitty has been in the building, and

683
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 3: now most recently that's going to be Charlie Partridge, and

684
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 3: especially coming from the collegiate coaching background of how he

685
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 3: developed players there, I think is going to be in

686
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 3: a incredible asset to this room that has already proven itself.

687
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 3: They set the franchise record in sacks last year, right,

688
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 3: and now there is you know, Charlie coming in, who

689
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 3: really is going to be able to bring another element

690
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 3: in compliment to everything that these guys have done so far.

691
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 3: I'm intrigued by what Charlie can do with the guys

692
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 3: he inherits as part of that position group. Quitty included,

693
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 3: because I think Quitty is one who really prides himself

694
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 3: on honing his craft, developing that skill set, implementing new

695
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 3: moves into you know, his game. So that's an interesting

696
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 3: caveat too to the production of the defensive line, not

697
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 3: just with you know, Quitty and now having that you

698
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 3: know obviously extension or that fifth year option and lat

699
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 3: too and all of those things. But Charlie's gonna be significant.

700
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 3: I think that's one of the more underscored headlines and

701
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 3: things to watch as you go into training.

702
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 4: Another rookie that a lot of eyes will be on

703
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 4: is Charlie Bartridge. I mean, let's be honest here, He's

704
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 4: coming from a storied collegiate career and coming up to

705
00:31:59,120 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 4: the big time.

706
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the Colts are putting a lot of emphasis,

707
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: as they do with Gus Bradley, on getting home with

708
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: four and rushing four. So that defensive line has to

709
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: be humming on every single snap. The kind of like

710
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,959
Speaker 1: we talked about where, yeah, the Colts set the Indianapolis

711
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,959
Speaker 1: era franchise sack record last year, but the pressure wasn't

712
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: didn't match it. Essentially, the pressure rate didn't match it.

713
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: So you want to keep that sack production where it was,

714
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: but get the pressure rate up and consistently affect the

715
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: quarterback more often. You know, you think about that Week

716
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: E team game where CJ. Stroud did have time to

717
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: operate in the pocket and there are a lot of

718
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: plays where his third down and the Colts didn't get

719
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: pressure on him. That's what you got to change, even

720
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: if it's not getting fifty one sacks is a lot,

721
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: I think that's I don't know if you're thinking about

722
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: getting more than fifty one sacks, but you want to

723
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: get pressure on a higher percentage of your snap.

724
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: So you're also speaking about rookies coming in.

725
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 3: How fun is it that Matt Goncalva is the offensive

726
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 3: lineman was opposite Charlie Parsher chief was going to battle

727
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 3: with all Charlie's guys at pitten Yeah, pretty.

728
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: Good resource, right, or because Macansov has also only played

729
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: what three games last year, but Hey, Charlie Partridge saw

730
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: him every day in that building, so pretty good resource.

731
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Speaker 4: Hey, I'll tell you what, Charlie's gonna have a big

732
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 4: impact on liatu quity pay and the rest of that

733
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 4: defensive lineman. But you shut down with Jordan Rodrie, who

734
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 4: wrote a fantastic story, great article, fantastic story on LATU

735
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 4: and just give me a once over real quick what

736
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 4: you found out after talking to the same no before.

737
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Jordan, incredible NFL writer for the Athletic, had

738
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 3: an opportunity which she explains how this story came to

739
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 3: be in compliment to a lot of the other work

740
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 3: that she has been doing. But some really incredible insight

741
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 3: as to his motivation to not just make it to

742
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 3: the NFL, but to be great in the NFL. And

743
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 3: exactly maybe what not only the Indianapolis Colts scouts in

744
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 3: front office saw in him, but the compliment that he

745
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 3: will be and her experience in covering some really great

746
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 3: pass rushers what she sees as being indications that he

747
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 3: has everything that it takes to be one of those

748
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 3: impact guys and immediate impact guys for the franchist.

749
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 4: Good job by you. Let's sit down now, Lara is

750
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 4: sitting down. Rather, here's Jordan Rodrieg and Lara Olverton talking

751
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 4: about Leatu Latu.

752
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 3: So delighted to be joined by the fabulous, the incredibly

753
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 3: talented Jordan Rodrigg of The Athletic, who I admittedly fangirled

754
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 3: wholeheartedly at the combine. I don't give a chance to

755
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 3: see you very often, and Colts fans may not be

756
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 3: as familiar with your work, Jordan, because your primary duties

757
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 3: with the Athletic are covering the La Rams. Prior to

758
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 3: that you were with the Carolina Panthers. It's not a

759
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 3: ton of crossover typically with the Colts fan base. I

760
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 3: remember seeing you at Lucas Soil Stadium though a few

761
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 3: years ago, and have been such a fan of your

762
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,280
Speaker 3: work ever since. So it's it's just such an incredible

763
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 3: opportunity to get you on the Official Cults podcast and

764
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 3: now talk about the fifteenth overall pick.

765
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm so excited for the crossover. Obviously, I've followed

766
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 5: the Colts for a long time. I was a big

767
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 5: Andrew Luck fan when he came out as a West

768
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 5: Coast girl, and Stephen Holder, Zach Keefer, James Boyd all

769
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 5: favorite people and colleagues and former colleagues of mine. So

770
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 5: I was so happy we finally got to talk. I

771
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 5: feel like we've messaged and everything in the past, and

772
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 5: like when we finally got to talk, it was like, well,

773
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 5: we could just spend this entire women in the NFL

774
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 5: Happy hour just like talking to each other, right.

775
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 2: So we really could have just put us in a corner.

776
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, and thank you for having me. Latu is an

777
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 5: awesome person. Got to spend some time with him and

778
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 5: his d line coach Ed mcgilbra at the Senior Bowl

779
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 5: and mobile could not have left a better impression.

780
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 7: So really glad to talk about him with you today.

781
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 3: So the title of this, and I have to tell

782
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 3: you guys, the way this came on my radar is

783
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 3: my good friend Ashley Adamson from the PAC twelve network.

784
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 3: She sent this over to me and I was like, Oh,

785
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 3: it's a Jordan bas this is awesome. It's called house

786
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 3: Star outside Linebacker LAYOUTI Lato masters the unique craft of

787
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 3: past rushing and why the first thing I want to

788
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 3: ask is, with your primary focus covering the rams and

789
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 3: all of you know the demands of that, how did

790
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 3: this story land on your radar? And kind of create

791
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 3: an opportunity to go away from that a little bit

792
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 3: with this teacher.

793
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

794
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 5: Well, as a part of my role too, I do

795
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 5: special projects for the athletic and so him being such

796
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 5: a big time prospect and such a really unique and

797
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 5: really a story of overcoming a lot, it was always

798
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 5: he was always someone that I sort of followed.

799
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 7: He was obviously local UCLA.

800
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 5: In the in the Los Angeles area, and then his

801
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 5: d line coach Ed mcgilbra like, he's trained he trains

802
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 5: players up here near West Lake area, which is a

803
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 5: little bit north of Los Angeles, and so I've known

804
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 5: Ed for forever because he's trained some Rams players, he's

805
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 5: trained Chargers players, He's trained players from from a lot

806
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,280
Speaker 5: of different NFL teams. So I first started hearing about

807
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 5: this younger player, Leatsu Latu, who was kind of just.

808
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 7: Going and hanging around. He wasn't really participant because he

809
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 7: wasn't you know, they're doing their own off season stuff

810
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 7: for college.

811
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 5: But he was like eavesdropping, right, And I say that

812
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 5: in the best way. I mean he was Some coaches

813
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 5: they like to call it like he was nosy.

814
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 7: He was nosy.

815
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 5: He wanted to know all of the little technical things

816
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 5: that these professionals were doing.

817
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 7: He wanted to know the different types of moves.

818
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 5: He wanted to understand why they rushed the way that

819
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 5: they rushed. And so he's been on my radar for

820
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 5: a while as someone who I wanted to write about,

821
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 5: and so it was fortuitous and Mobile. I was working

822
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 5: on a separate project and I happened to cross paths

823
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 5: with Ed, and I was like, oh my gosh, you know,

824
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 5: I would love to talk to him, and luckily, you know,

825
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 5: everyone was able to make it happen, and I just

826
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 5: came away from that conversation really feeling like, you know,

827
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 5: this is a young man who has it right and

828
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 5: definitely a franchise player.

829
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 3: Interesting that you guys are both out in California, but

830
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 3: it took like Mobile right to like bring you to me,

831
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 3: and it was not like how like the NFL works

832
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 3: well in ed coach. Ed also works with Quitty pay

833
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 3: Quitty was one of the first people to reach out

834
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 3: to Leyatu when he was drafted. So Ed is very

835
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 3: highly respected, very well regarded among NFL circles. Our defensive

836
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 3: line coach Charlie Partridge has just raved about him. You

837
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 3: talk about Leaatu having it, what kind of is that

838
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 3: factor that kind of in spending more time sold you

839
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 3: on that and was really evident that he has not

840
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 3: only the ability that we saw at the college level,

841
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 3: but that that can translate over to the NFL, as

842
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 3: the Colts hope it does and hope it immediately does.

843
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 5: So yeah, I think we all know from watching his

844
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 5: tape obviously watching him play in college that he's got

845
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 5: every pass rush tool in the bag already. That's not

846
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 5: always enough, though, It's about how you combine things, how

847
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 5: you sequence things. There's so much creativity that goes into

848
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 5: building a rush plan.

849
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 7: It's not just using one move over and over.

850
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 5: We're gonna unless you happen to be the most gifted

851
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 5: presence on the field ever, and some people do.

852
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 7: They'd have for free watched Aaron Donald, So yeah, and.

853
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 5: And like, but but Aaron that the thing that's really

854
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 5: cool is actually, you know, Leatu and I really had

855
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 5: a great conversation about Aaron because watching Aaron Donald and

856
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 5: combining some of the hand moves that Aaron Donald does,

857
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 5: some of the chop and swipe moves, combining it with

858
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 5: some of the footwork that he was watching from professional

859
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 5: basketball players, James Harden being one of them I wrote

860
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 5: about in the story. They were basically trying to just

861
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 5: different ways of creating leverage and different movements.

862
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 7: And I knew that Leatu was very.

863
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 5: Passionate about football and passionate about you know, past rushing

864
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 5: in general. You don't come back from what he came

865
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 5: back from if you don't have this like absolute love

866
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,959
Speaker 5: and joy for the game. But sitting down with him,

867
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 5: it really reminded me of talking to people well beyond

868
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 5: his years. I've been fortunate to cover a lot of

869
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 5: really outstanding, great pass rushers in my career so far.

870
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 5: And the way he talked about the craft of the game,

871
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 5: the way he talked about the artistry, the creativity, it

872
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 5: really came off like he was painting a picture with

873
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 5: his pass rush and the meticulousness with which he approached

874
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 5: like every minute.

875
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 7: Little detail. It really was. I mean, it was fantastic.

876
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 7: It was beyond his years.

877
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 5: And so because he reminded me so much of some

878
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 5: of those conversations that I had had with pros who

879
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 5: took you know, took still took time, always had it

880
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 5: in them, but took time to develop some of that

881
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 5: technical stuff and really have that broader sense for the game,

882
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 5: that artistry sort of painter and canvas mentality. He has

883
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 5: it now, and I think that that's really cool and

884
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 5: I couldn't be more excited for him.

885
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 3: I'm stealing a line specifically out of your article right here.

886
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 3: Every detail offers a potential rush scenario, a collection of

887
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 3: moves from which Latsu will select and then craft into combinations,

888
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 3: like a painter selecting swipes of color for his palette

889
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 3: before turning to the canvas. So great writing, just like

890
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 3: great pass rush all comes from details. And some of

891
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 3: the really interesting details that I read and learned from

892
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 3: your piece were the anticipation of the pre snap movement.

893
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 7: What was it that stood.

894
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 3: Out to you as some of the elite dynamics for

895
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 3: him even before he moves in, how he evaluates these

896
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 3: offensive linemen that he's preparing to attack.

897
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's you're studying body contours. Basically, you're studying, usually

898
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 5: from a lot of deep tapework before you're looking at

899
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 5: the way that the linemen you'll be facing, or multiple

900
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 5: linemen if I assume they'll be moving him around, because

901
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 5: the kid can do everything, but you know you're studying

902
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 5: their tendencies. You're studying the way that they set. What

903
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 5: does their elbow do when they pass set? You know, uh,

904
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 5: with if it's a five step drop, what if it's

905
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 5: a run play? You know, what does their base do?

906
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 5: Where do their knees go? Like what is what do

907
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 5: their hips do? And it's for him and for for

908
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 5: really great pass rushers who are our pass rush specialists,

909
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 5: it's all about finding ways to work those leverage points

910
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 5: and those body contours and those different tendencies and and

911
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 5: and learn them on the fly and build and build

912
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 5: and build with different sequencing of moves and then flip

913
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,919
Speaker 5: that against them.

914
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 7: And I think what people a lot of times people don't.

915
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 5: Get right about pass rushing is they think it's okay,

916
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 5: you rush and then you rush again, and then you

917
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 5: rush again, and like, if you're one for four, then

918
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 5: that's bad. Really, three of those four rushes could be

919
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 5: setting up the fourth rush.

920
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 7: And that's what is really important. It's a it's a chess.

921
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 5: Match within the chess match within the chess match. And

922
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 5: the really really great ones study those tendencies.

923
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 7: They don't get buried by them.

924
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 5: They don't get you overwhelmed by the amount of information

925
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 5: but they really study and try to think of different

926
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 5: combinations and sequences that can eventually turn those things they

927
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 5: see on tape and that they feel in the course

928
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 5: of snap to snap movement eventually turn those.

929
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 7: Against the player that they're playing against.

930
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 3: It's incredible. It's like physics meets chess meets you know,

931
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 3: everything in how you're trying to manipulate all of these

932
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 3: different facets. In spending some time and getting to talk

933
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 3: with him a little bit about the injury, and people

934
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 3: are very well aware of his story.

935
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 6: Now, how do you see that that has possibly either

936
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 6: prepared him to maybe one not take anything for granted,

937
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 6: or this is almost something.

938
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 3: That he has already faced so much adversity early on

939
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 3: in his career, had to overcome it that now the

940
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 3: inevitable adversity that he is going to face over the

941
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 3: course of a seventeen game NFL rookie season at that position,

942
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 3: not that anything is just going to be easy, but

943
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 3: that some of these struggles and some of the adversity

944
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 3: are actually going to be in the long run, a

945
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 3: really good thing potentially for his NFL career.

946
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 7: Yeah.

947
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 5: Well, first and foremost, I know everyone who watches him play,

948
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 5: who meets him, whoever interacts with him just wants him

949
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 5: to be healthy for the long haul, and it's really

950
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 5: cool to see him return the way that he has.

951
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 5: I think that in talking to him, one of the

952
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 5: things that I kept thinking about was, here's this young

953
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 5: person who is coming and doing this.

954
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 7: Job interview basically for months. Right it's like a month's

955
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:40,720
Speaker 7: long job interview.

956
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 5: And the thing that people most are asking him about most,

957
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 5: and rightfully so, because you have to vet the prospect,

958
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 5: is something that he couldn't control. And then that's when

959
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 5: I started thinking about, Okay, well, what elements.

960
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 7: Of his life does he control?

961
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 5: And it starts the past rush obviously, but it also

962
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 5: broadens into the amount of work he's put into this

963
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 5: game and this sport and this craft, and that was

964
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 5: something that really shone through. He understands what it feels

965
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 5: like to have no control over losing the thing that

966
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 5: you love, and then when you get it back, what

967
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 5: are you going to put into it that you can control?

968
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 5: Understanding that in life the uncontrollable could happen to you.

969
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 5: But if you're showing up again and again and again,

970
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 5: snap in, snap out, and you're doing the work, and

971
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 5: you're throwing yourself into the thing that you love with

972
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 5: full passion and energy.

973
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 7: Then you might have.

974
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 5: The odds on your side in the end, and you'll

975
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 5: never regret putting in that work. And that is again,

976
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 5: he's much younger than I am, but very much taught

977
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 5: me a lesson from that conversation. And I'm grateful for

978
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 5: that because it's just it was incredible perspective from somebody

979
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 5: so young. But again it's he is a product of

980
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 5: the life he has experienced.

981
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 3: And I mean that's something I feel like we should,

982
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 3: you know, take to heart and like be reminded of,

983
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 3: right Like I need that, like I need this young

984
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 3: person early twenties, you know, fresh out of UCLA kind

985
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 3: of helping to helping me embrace that even more so.

986
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 3: And one of the things that a Latsu said when

987
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 3: he was here for his media availability was introductory pressor.

988
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 3: He was asked, what are your interests outside of football?

989
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 2: He said none. I mean, we know he.

990
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 3: Has a background in rugby. In fact, right away to

991
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 3: start the week, we see the clips from coach ed

992
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 3: where he's right out back working on his scratch. He's

993
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 3: back at it this week before coming to Indianapolis for

994
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 3: Briggy Mini Camp. Is that accurate? No interest outside of

995
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 3: football from what you were able to gather in the

996
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 3: time you spent with him and his coaches at UCLA

997
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 3: and coach at as well.

998
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 7: I mean we only talked about football, So I like, I.

999
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 3: Wouldn't be surprised because those are what are your interests outside,

1000
00:46:58,680 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 3: but you would also been none.

1001
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 7: It was just to football nerds, I think. Yeah, so

1002
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 7: I think.

1003
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 5: But but really though, I mean, huge passion for his family.

1004
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 5: If you ask him about his family, he'll probably talk

1005
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 5: for hours because he has so much care and compassion

1006
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 5: for them and wants to set them up in their

1007
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 5: lives as well, and certainly took on that role at

1008
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,919
Speaker 5: a younger age. So I just it's it's very cool.

1009
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 5: The bondie is with his mom is awesome as well.

1010
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 5: So I think it's really just family and football with that.

1011
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 3: Guy because his mom too, she was here with him

1012
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 3: as well as his siblings. She was really the one

1013
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 3: who had to advocate to find a doctor who would

1014
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 3: help him, who would clear him and allow him the

1015
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 3: opportunity to continue his football Creer correct.

1016
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, and she she fought for him, She fought for

1017
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 5: his dream and it's it's really you can't say it

1018
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 5: any any better than that, where she believed in him,

1019
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 5: she didn't want to see him, you know, hurting, and

1020
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 5: she believes that he could come back, just as he

1021
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 5: believed he could come back. And she was really the

1022
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,919
Speaker 5: one who fought for his dream and kind of talked

1023
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 5: him through and helped him through some of those harder moments.

1024
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 3: And he's regarded as the best pass rusher in the draft,

1025
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 3: certainly among you know, there were those very top tier

1026
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 3: of elite pass rushers in this draft, the first defensive

1027
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 3: player to come off the board at fifteen in an

1028
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 3: absolutely wild draft class. In the time that you have spent,

1029
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 3: because you talked about you've been around a lot of

1030
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 3: top tier, elite edge rushers in the NFL. I know

1031
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 3: Lautu has spent a lot of time with Max Crosby.

1032
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 3: That's someone who he really tries to learn from. If

1033
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 3: you had to say, like this is you know, you

1034
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 3: don't want to necessarily give comps or like set things

1035
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 3: too high, but if you had to help Colt fans

1036
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 3: kind of understand the type of weapon that he is

1037
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 3: in the pass rush, who would you maybe equate elements

1038
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 3: of his game too, not specifically him as a player,

1039
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 3: but at least elements of you know, that pass rush

1040
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 3: skill set and what he's able to do.

1041
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's really tough because I don't know that

1042
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 5: I've come across a lot of prospects who are that

1043
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 5: tool z that early in terms of like the arsenal

1044
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 5: of moves and and the way he thinks and talks

1045
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 5: about them. But you know, it certainly is gonna be

1046
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 5: an interesting path for him to strike out on because

1047
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 5: he is approaching he is entering the league sort of

1048
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 5: in a unique space where he is one of the

1049
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 5: past rushers in recent memory who is coming in with

1050
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 5: that wide of a tool belt essentially, and also the

1051
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 5: things he can do even you know, in some of

1052
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 5: the four I work if they drop him a little bit,

1053
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 5: his DB's his old DB's coach and defensive coordinators telling

1054
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 5: me like he moves like a corner when they're doing

1055
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 5: different drills for for dropping and.

1056
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 7: Those types of things.

1057
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 5: So it's really hard to to comp as you as

1058
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 5: you know, and I don't want to put too much

1059
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 5: on him before he gets in the building, but I

1060
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 5: will tell you the way he talked about football, and

1061
00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 5: again the the attention to detail and and the appreciation

1062
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 5: and understanding of like the bigger picture of football and

1063
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 5: of a pass rush reminded me of a lot of pros.

1064
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,879
Speaker 5: I've been around some great ones and guys who really

1065
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 5: look at it at that in that way and go

1066
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,720
Speaker 5: on to have really long careers in the league.

1067
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 3: Something that was really interesting to me that we heard

1068
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 3: from Colt's defensive line coach Charlie Partridge. He was talking

1069
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 3: with Lattu and was just asking him where he learned

1070
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 3: a lot of things, and while he was going through

1071
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 3: his injury, he just studied a lot of like YouTube

1072
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 3: like drills and a lot of this is you know,

1073
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 3: self motivated and self taught, which is really interesting. And

1074
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 3: coach Partridge is like champing at the bit to get

1075
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 3: his hands on this guy to work with him. Because

1076
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 3: Charlie comes from such a long line of success at

1077
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 3: the college level. This is his first time at the

1078
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 3: professional level. So it really feels like from the Colts

1079
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 3: perspective to have coach Partridge coming immediately out of Pittsburgh

1080
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 3: and having a long line of guys who you've worked

1081
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 3: with JJ Watt at Wisconsin and now to have a

1082
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 3: guy who has that skill set, but yet has so

1083
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 3: much opportunity for growth along with a defensive front that

1084
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 3: set the franchise back record this year. This should be

1085
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 3: a very exciting time to watch this cold Stefens.

1086
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, it'll be fun.

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Speaker 5: I mean it's like when crazy potential meets great coaching.

1088
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 5: So much fun comes after that. So from Afar, I'll

1089
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 5: be excited to see as well.

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Speaker 7: Thank you so much.

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00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 3: Okay, what else are you working on? I'll give all

1092
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 3: of our like colts, fans, you know, just a preview

1093
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 3: of you know, following you and what you're gonna be

1094
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 3: working on for the next few weeks so that they

1095
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 3: can be in tune with all the work that you're

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00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:40,720
Speaker 3: doing across the league.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. So it will have come out by now. So

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Speaker 7: as of time we were recording this, it's not yet released.

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Speaker 5: But a big two part project about the draft, about

1100
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 5: what it's like to be in a scouting department throughout

1101
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 5: the course of a draft cycle that is up now

1102
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 5: at the Athletic dot Com. Put a lot of time

1103
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 5: into that and was really a cool experience.

1104
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 7: I hope everyone goes and checks it out.

1105
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 3: Awesome, we will. I'm always sharing and retweeting your stuff.

1106
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 3: So we'll be sure to do that as well. Jordan,

1107
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 3: thank you so much for taking the time, and I

1108
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 3: hope it's not like another full year at the Combine

1109
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 3: until we get to chat again. Thank you for all

1110
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 3: your hard work. Admire so much what you do and

1111
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 3: always enjoy your writing and your stories and your contributions

1112
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 3: to the phenomenal football landscape. Thank you so much for

1113
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:30,439
Speaker 3: taking the time.

1114
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 7: Thank you for having me my pleasure. Thank you for

1115
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 7: all of your work. Huge fan of yours.

1116
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 5: We could go on and on again for another forty

1117
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 5: five minutes on this, but I really appreciate you having

1118
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 5: me on Hi Motor.

1119
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously a work ethic that this cat.

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Speaker 2: The euro Chop.

1121
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 4: All he's about is football, football, football.

1122
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: Well already, only audience, Lara, just eurochop the microphone.

1123
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 4: With your Lara over to then or euro chop here,

1124
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 4: let's bring it. Well. I can't wait. What are we

1125
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 4: going to expect out of this young man this year?

1126
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 4: Your number one overall draft choice of the golds.

1127
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 3: Hey, we're gonna see it right away. I think, first

1128
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 3: and foremost, it comes in hungry. He's ready to work

1129
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 3: in compliments to this group, and not just hungry to

1130
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 3: prove what he can do, but hungry to learn from

1131
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 3: the rest of this group.

1132
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 2: And that's one of the things I found really excited.

1133
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 3: Exciting is for him to coming off of his experience

1134
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 3: in college, you know, out of Washington, then to UCLA,

1135
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 3: to have this organization that's really invested in him. And

1136
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 3: you heard him when he arrived in Indianapolis. He kept

1137
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 3: thanking Shane and Chris, thanks for believing in me, Thanks

1138
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 3: for believing in me.

1139
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 2: This is a guy who is he like, is just

1140
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 2: so grateful.

1141
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 3: And that's something that you know, Jordan emphasized in her

1142
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 3: article too, and I want to pub this for her

1143
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 3: as well. She mentions it in the interview that article

1144
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 3: is out now in which she was basically embedded with

1145
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 3: the La RAMS scouts for about a year preparing for

1146
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 3: the draft. So if you want a great article and

1147
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 3: kind of just a different perspective, because obviously we do

1148
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,439
Speaker 3: it as part of behind the Colts, and you see

1149
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 3: the perspective from our scouts, you want to see from

1150
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 3: another organization. Obviously, the Rams have a very different approach,

1151
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 3: you know, to the draft and what they have done

1152
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 3: in recent years. So that article actually two parter. That's

1153
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 3: out now if you want to follow that as well, well.

1154
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 4: Done by you. Great job on that on that inside

1155
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 4: look and more to come obviously all the latest and

1156
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 4: greatest information at colts dot com. What can I expect

1157
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 4: or what can we expect in your eyes? Out of

1158
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 4: Law two as a rookie.

1159
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,919
Speaker 1: I think you you want to see We talked about

1160
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: a little bit last week, you know with the sack

1161
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: totals of like if he gets seven.

1162
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 4: Or eight sacks, right, I mean yeah, but no, I.

1163
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: Think I think you want to see the that kind

1164
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: of like I was just talking about. You want to

1165
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: see him contribute to the pressure rate going up and

1166
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 1: you're affecting quarterbacks more frequently, you just see more blitzes. Well,

1167
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 1: I what I want to know with a lot too,

1168
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: is because he has experience kind of playing all over

1169
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: in different ways. He's different than a Taekwon Lewis or

1170
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 1: a Dioah Dangbo where they'll kick inside on third down.

1171
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: He can play in this sort of like the spinner

1172
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: role where he's lined up in a two point stand,

1173
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 1: so just like on his two feet over a guard

1174
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: and he can rush the guard that way. You kind

1175
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: of see the Browns do it with Miles Garrett, where

1176
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: you get a little bit creative and how you can

1177
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: deploy this guy because he has such a different skill set.

1178
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: That's gonna be an interesting thing for Gus Bradley to

1179
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: potentially use if he wants to be creative with that

1180
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: rushing four where okay, maybe we're not sending more blitzes,

1181
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 1: but let's get a little creative with how we use

1182
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: lat to sprinkle him in over a guard, over a center,

1183
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 1: lined up in different ways to try to generate different

1184
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: kinds of pressures with that four man rush.

1185
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 4: The defensive future is bright, guys, thanks for sitting down.

1186
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 4: Let's talk talking about this. Obviously, Colts dot com will

1187
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 4: have the latest. These two will be all over the

1188
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 4: Rookie Mini Camp, hearing from the rookies for almost the

1189
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 4: first time, and a lot on Lattu and ad like

1190
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 4: we talked about. But great job on behind the Colts.

1191
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 4: When can we expect another episode out.

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00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 3: Of there coming up in a few weeks. It is

1193
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 3: in progress. It is in progress behind the We will

1194
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 3: we will update you. And yeah, so we're we have

1195
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 3: actually a couple of we are pursuing that are in

1196
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 3: the works and we will work on the strategy on

1197
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 3: how we're releasing those very very soon.

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Speaker 4: Double J. We're going to look forward to a great

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Speaker 4: piece that you've put a lot of time and effort into.

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00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 4: I think it was a June release about the Colts

1201
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 4: moved from Baltimore to Indianapolis.

1202
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 1: Yes, that'll be on the Colts Audio Network. We're targeting

1203
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: a end of June release for it. And the it's

1204
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 1: essentially just telling the story of why the Colts are here, yep,

1205
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: because I think we know all the images of the

1206
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: Mayflower trucks pulling up and all that, but I didn't

1207
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: know the full story of how the Colts left Baltimore,

1208
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 1: why they left Baltimore, the political intrigue of and then

1209
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 1: the political intrigue of how the city of Indianapolis built

1210
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 1: a dome without a tenant.

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Speaker 4: It's a great story and he's going to bring that

1212
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Speaker 4: to you.

1213
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 3: JJ.

1214
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 4: I know you do a lot of writing, not so

1215
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 4: much with this anymore, but on your computer, and you're

1216
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 4: going NonStop this time a year, even though we're in

1217
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 4: the offseason. So well done, and obviously follow them along

1218
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 4: at JJ Stankowitz at Lara Overton. I'm Jeffrey Gorman, Guys.

1219
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Speaker 4: I appreciate it. Have fun at the Rookie Minute Camp.

1220
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 4: We're gonna hear from you this weekend as well as

1221
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 4: a bunch of other rookies. Be safe, and I can't

1222
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 4: wait to hear your Kentucky Derby stories next year. Yes,

1223
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,240
Speaker 4: I know you'll be going You'll be going back, all right, guys,

1224
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 4: that's it for now. The Official Colts Podcast will talk

1225
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:13,439
Speaker 4: to you next week.