Speaker 1: Oula Fanarritos, and welcome to an all new episode of
Speaker 1: How Rude Tanarito's. Have you ever wondered what it would
Speaker 1: be like to reconnect with the person with whom you
Speaker 1: shared your very first kiss. Well, today we have a
Speaker 1: bitter surprise for you, no pun intended. We have Christian
Speaker 1: Goosick on the podcast, who you all know as Jake Bitterman.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's right.
Speaker 1: For the first time since nineteen ninety one, I'll be
Speaker 1: reconnecting with my very first kiss, both on stage and
Speaker 1: off stage, and in front of a live studio audience
Speaker 1: of two hundred strangers, including my mother and father. Oh,
Speaker 1: I still haven't recovered from this. We'll get to hear
Speaker 1: Christian tell us what it was like playing that unforgettable
Speaker 1: yet lovable troublemaker with hair that could seriously rival any ripper.
Speaker 2: Please welcome Christian Goosik.
Speaker 3: I so remember him too. And yeah, he had that
Speaker 3: you know mullet, you had that.
Speaker 1: It was a mullet, but it looked like like a
Speaker 1: raccoon skill.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 5: It was there is hello.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, we were just looking at pictures and we
Speaker 3: Hair is always a big discussion on hawbrid Tanderto's.
Speaker 5: Because it was the eighties, so it's all bad.
Speaker 4: I understand. Hair has been a big part of my life.
Speaker 4: As you can see, I still have long hair.
Speaker 3: Well, yes, but it's looking it's looking fabulous now, might
Speaker 3: I say it's.
Speaker 2: Looking very modern.
Speaker 1: It's you've grown out the mullet, the whatever that was,
Speaker 1: whatever it.
Speaker 4: Was, you know. I mean there was a time where
Speaker 4: I thought that was really cool. People would be like, wow,
Speaker 4: look at that, and that was.
Speaker 3: Like that was peak, you know, late eighties, early nineties hairstyle.
Speaker 3: I mean you should see you should see the rippers
Speaker 3: that have come through here from Jesse and the Rippers.
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable, just unbelievable. So so yes, you're in good company,
Speaker 3: my friend, You're in good company.
Speaker 5: But welcome to the show. We just sort of jump
Speaker 5: in with our interviews, so you're on. Welcome. We're so
Speaker 5: happy to have you here.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm so thrilled. I'm so excited about
Speaker 1: this reunion. Thank you so much for joining.
Speaker 4: Us, No, thank you for having me. I'm excited. I
Speaker 4: can't explain enough. How you know, in my adult life,
Speaker 4: there's so few things that are just like pure excitement
Speaker 4: and I'm really like totally excited about this. I've been
Speaker 4: giggling with my wife and my friends, you know.
Speaker 2: So oh good.
Speaker 4: Okay, so many people that over the years have you know,
Speaker 4: sort of a loving joke of being Jake Bitterman and
Speaker 4: and yeah, so there's there's dozens at least people that
Speaker 4: are like super excited for this too.
Speaker 2: Well there, that's great.
Speaker 5: There, I trust me.
Speaker 3: They are a lot of fan Ato's out there that
Speaker 3: are definitely excited for this as well.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yes, I'm you are legendary. You're a legendary
Speaker 1: character in the Full House camph And I'm so glad
Speaker 1: you're excited to be here, because I didn't know if
Speaker 1: you would be hesitant to come on the podcast or
Speaker 1: if you.
Speaker 2: Were just like, no, let's go, let's just oh no.
Speaker 4: Let's go, let's go do it. I mean, I I
Speaker 4: you know, I'd lead a pretty regular life and it's
Speaker 4: mostly boring and and this is great. You know, my
Speaker 4: kids are excited. Everybody is like, oh my god, my
Speaker 4: dad's going to be on the podcast for Full House.
Speaker 2: Oh that's so cool.
Speaker 4: So yeah, thank you guys for having me on here.
Speaker 4: It really oh of course, yeah, I you.
Speaker 2: Mentioned you mentioned your kids.
Speaker 1: Tell us who your kids are, how old are they,
Speaker 1: and do they they know about your past as Jake.
Speaker 4: Of course, of course they know. The Jake Bitterman moniker
Speaker 4: has followed me most of my life with pretty much
Speaker 4: everybody that I know. It's it's it's been a testament
Speaker 4: to how popular the show is. Yeah. I have two girls,
Speaker 4: A beautiful wife of twenty five years now, two girls.
Speaker 4: They're ten and twelve.
Speaker 5: Amazing, you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's the funnest time in my life I've
Speaker 4: ever experienced just being with them. They're both little performers.
Speaker 4: It's great.
Speaker 2: They're Oh so they got the acting gene.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes. My ten year old is you know, musical theater,
Speaker 4: just nut. Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 5: I love that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: My younger one is musical theater, not too so, I
Speaker 5: love that.
Speaker 4: Oh nice nice? Yeah yeah, I yeah, it's it's a blast,
Speaker 4: you know, and way more talented than I ever was
Speaker 4: or have been. And then my twelve year old is
Speaker 4: a musician. I mean, she is just amazing. I can't
Speaker 4: even I can't explain it. She taught herself how to
Speaker 4: play the piano by like four. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 4: been really Oh wow, neat. Yeah, she plays pretty much
Speaker 4: every instrument she puts her hands on. She plays the cello,
Speaker 4: the ukulele, the xylophone all the time. We have musical
Speaker 4: instruments everywhere in the house and she just plays them.
Speaker 3: That is incredible. You know who else used to do that?
Speaker 3: Prince Well, there are several really really talented art but
Speaker 3: he was one of the ones that just played like
Speaker 3: every instrument.
Speaker 5: He would sort of pick up.
Speaker 3: It's and I have such admiration for people like that
Speaker 3: because I am not an instrument person.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm very musically not talented myself. And it's
Speaker 4: been neat to see, you know, I mean, it's it's
Speaker 4: you know what you know what's really neat about it is,
Speaker 4: you know I I before meeting Charlie that's that's her name, Charlie,
Speaker 4: Charlie and Kaylin. But before meeting Charlie, you know, I
Speaker 4: would have said, oh, there's some people that are just
Speaker 4: talented that you can just do it. But you know,
Speaker 4: as soon as Charlie could touch the piano. You know,
Speaker 4: my dad is a pianist and we've just had the
Speaker 4: piano that I grew up with in our house for
Speaker 4: years and years now, huh. And as soon as she
Speaker 4: could touch the piano, she would have just sort of
Speaker 4: hit the keys and then you know, be mad catching
Speaker 4: her voice. I'm talking for like eighteen months and for
Speaker 4: a long time, we just see her do this regularly
Speaker 4: every day, and then we realized, wait a minute, there's
Speaker 4: a pattern to this. And she would, you know, kind
Speaker 4: of do it and match your voice, and do it
Speaker 4: and match your voice. And then then one day around four,
Speaker 4: she came to me and she there was this song
Speaker 4: on a cartoon she was watching, and she was like,
Speaker 4: you know, Daddy, can you show me how to play
Speaker 4: this song? I was like no, and she was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: like I'll ask Grandpa, And so I asked my dad
Speaker 4: and my dad came back and laugh. Then he's like, look,
Speaker 4: he goes, whoever composed this song for the cartoon? They
Speaker 4: were really playing with it. It doesn't repeat, it's you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like, there's no easy just chord progression.
Speaker 4: I could show her, And so I came back, I'm like,
Speaker 4: why do you choose an easier song? She was really mad, frustrated,
Speaker 4: and then she came back like four or five days later,
Speaker 4: and she looked at me, real serious. She goes, Daddy,
Speaker 4: I know how to play it. I was like, really, yeah,
Speaker 4: come here, and she played it and I was like,
Speaker 4: oh wow, and we realized, okay, wait a minute, something
Speaker 4: else is going on here. She's been teaching herself how
Speaker 4: to do this.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Wow. And then we've just seen that same thing happen
Speaker 4: with so many different you know, instruments in different times.
Speaker 4: There's been so many cool times where I've just been
Speaker 4: able to sit there and be like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: because me, you know.
Speaker 3: It's myself of the family, do you know, it's the Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's that's really incredible though.
Speaker 5: What a gift, What.
Speaker 3: A really amazing gift, And what a cool thing to
Speaker 3: watch her get to sort of enjoy and come into
Speaker 3: as she gets older.
Speaker 4: Oh it's a blast. It's a blob, you know.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 4: You know, Jody, you said you have kids, you know, Andrew,
Speaker 4: I don't know if you have kids or not.
Speaker 5: Yeap, she does't.
Speaker 1: She's got I got older kids twenty years old and
Speaker 1: seventeen years old. So yeah, I'm in the think of
Speaker 1: it in the thickest teenagehood and my baby adult who's
Speaker 1: lived trying to live on his own so yeah, it's hard,
Speaker 1: but I miss those days when they were you know,
Speaker 1: ten years old is like.
Speaker 2: The perfect age.
Speaker 3: Yeah, puberty beginnns sixteen and fourteen now, so a little
Speaker 3: younger than that, So we kind of have a little
Speaker 3: cascade of you know, ten to twenty there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, that's that's what. Yeah. My wife and
Speaker 4: I we were a little bit later. We just you know,
Speaker 4: we didn't have any accidents or whatever, and then we
Speaker 4: found ourselves sort of in our late thirties going okay,
Speaker 4: we want kids. Yeah, and yeah, it's it's a blast.
Speaker 4: I mean, and I agree with you. It's like every age.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know how the twenties is, Andrea,
Speaker 4: but every age is like the most amazing new adventure
Speaker 4: and it's just amazing. Yeah, I love it. You know,
Speaker 4: it's fun. And watching them sort of the pureeness of
Speaker 4: just doing what they're doing still is is great.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I just wish we could enjoy that because it may
Speaker 3: change in the next few years. Just as a warning,
Speaker 3: they may become these little unrecognizable people somewhere around thirteen
Speaker 3: and you're like, I don't know who you are.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's happening a little bit in front of our eyes.
Speaker 4: It's funny. So our ten year old we joke around
Speaker 4: as ten going on sixteen. You know, she's already sort
Speaker 4: of there, you know what I mean, where she doesn't
Speaker 4: I drop profit school. She's like, no, daddy, I can't
Speaker 4: give you a kiss. You know what I mean? Right?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yah, I don't wan to take a picture.
Speaker 2: But my twelve that's embarrassing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, our twelve year old openly talks about she doesn't
Speaker 4: want to grow up yet. She's she's she's like, I don't.
Speaker 4: She's like, I want to be a kid still, you know,
Speaker 4: when she sort of loves it all. Yeah, yeah, it's great,
Speaker 4: and so we're just sort of milking it while we
Speaker 4: can assume.
Speaker 5: You, yeah, enjoy Yeah, that's yeah.
Speaker 4: It's probably going to change quick.
Speaker 1: Is it weird to look at your kids at this
Speaker 1: age now and think, I, I mean, you you were
Speaker 1: that age when you were a child actor on Full
Speaker 1: House and Highway to Heaven and all of.
Speaker 2: The other appearances you did. Is that kind of weird?
Speaker 2: Is it that your kids are catching up to.
Speaker 4: You that way? It's really weird because I still feel
Speaker 4: that age in my head. You know, I still feel
Speaker 4: like I mean ten. But you know, I joke around
Speaker 4: with people all the time, especially younger people like you know,
Speaker 4: in business and whatnot. You know that you you know,
Speaker 4: people in the young twenties that are being very adultish,
Speaker 4: and I'll often find myself looking at them and being like,
Speaker 4: you know, I don't know what to say. Uh, I
Speaker 4: still feel fifteen or sixteen in my head. It's weird.
Speaker 4: My body, my body is slowed down, but you know,
Speaker 4: and and looking at them and going wow, so much
Speaker 4: time has gone by, you know, and and and they
Speaker 4: look at me like I'm well, they don't actually look
Speaker 4: at me like I'm responsible. I'd be lying there, you know.
Speaker 4: They look at my wife, she's responsible. But you know
Speaker 4: there's the air of like, oh, I'm an adult. Wow,
Speaker 4: that's that's weird.
Speaker 2: You know, how did that happen.
Speaker 3: I'll walk around, like I'll open the door the house
Speaker 3: and be.
Speaker 5: Like, huh yeah they've read this month. No wow.
Speaker 3: And I've been doing that consistently now for a while.
Speaker 3: And here like it's just like sometimes it will hit
Speaker 3: you where you're like, well, I okay, I am wow,
Speaker 3: it's just yeah, it's just me all right, Well, oh boy,
Speaker 3: like totally well.
Speaker 4: And even to think of like like like you guys
Speaker 4: hold a special sort of position in that zeitgeist. Didn't
Speaker 4: think of how many millions of people around the world
Speaker 4: still picture you as a ten year old, eleven year old,
Speaker 4: you know, like and really just in their head, you've
Speaker 4: you're sort of frozen in time there, and and it's uh, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's a it's a trip to think about, you know,
Speaker 4: existence and growing old in the universe is a trip,
Speaker 4: that's all I can say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, Well, before before we came back and
Speaker 1: did the reunion show the Whole or House. We came
Speaker 1: back and did five seasons of the continuation of the House.
Speaker 1: But before then I would get sort of recognized, you know,
Speaker 1: go not to Target at the grocery store, but the
Speaker 1: kids would be.
Speaker 3: Like, you're horrified that I was so much older than
Speaker 3: my fifteen year old self, right, Yeah. Their parents would
Speaker 3: be like, oh, that's you know, that's Kimmy, your staff
Speaker 3: or whatever. And the kids are like, that's some random
Speaker 3: old lady in Target. Okay, I don't know who that is. Yeah, yeah, right,
Speaker 3: And you're like, and you're part of you.
Speaker 5: Is like, let's stud up to me.
Speaker 3: And then part of you is like, no, it's now
Speaker 3: obviously it's I mean, I'm just gonna go shopping for
Speaker 3: deodorant things by like totally.
Speaker 4: Totally, yeah, it's it's it's weird. I actually it's funny.
Speaker 4: I've never been recognized for anything other than being Jake Bitterman,
Speaker 4: and it's been oh yeah, yeah, it's happened quite often
Speaker 4: all throughout my life.
Speaker 2: It's really even now, like to this day.
Speaker 4: It is so yeah, like like I kind of said
Speaker 4: this at the you know, at the onset of the show.
Speaker 4: You know, different sort of epochs of my life, you know,
Speaker 4: where you meet new people, you know, even leading up
Speaker 4: to you know, my my current career and and and
Speaker 4: sort of job position that I've had for more than
Speaker 4: a decade now, there's been moments where people, either right
Speaker 4: off the bat or after we've gotten to know each other,
Speaker 4: kind of lean over and they're like, hey, you're Jake Bnnerman,
Speaker 4: are you? And I giggle and I'll be like yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I keep seeing something or whatever something's behind me, but
Speaker 4: and I giggle and I'm like, yeah, you know, yeah
Speaker 4: that's me, you know, And then and then you kind
Speaker 4: of see it where they're like, you know, like I
Speaker 4: have some inside info about the show, and I kind
Speaker 4: of look at them. I'm like, you know, I was
Speaker 4: I was like thirteen at the time, but I really.
Speaker 3: Like, oh no, I was just gonna say, like they
Speaker 3: I mean, that's amazing that people like the familiarity of
Speaker 3: the show that people know even you know, all of
Speaker 3: all of our our side characters, all of the people
Speaker 3: that came through and were you know, parts of one
Speaker 3: episode or several, Like what, that's just so cool to me.
Speaker 5: How do you feel about that? Like, are you like, oh,
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 4: I love it. Don't get me wrong, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. I ham it up as much as I
Speaker 4: possibly can every time I possibly can ham it up.
Speaker 4: It's it's it's amazing. It's it's even something that like,
Speaker 4: I so this is weird, but I should share with
Speaker 4: you guys because you guys are part of this, you know,
Speaker 4: early on in high school, so I grew up in
Speaker 4: Orange County. I was listening to other episodes.
Speaker 5: Yeah we did, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was listening to.
Speaker 4: Other episodes and I loved the show, by the way,
Speaker 4: And you know, I heard you guys talk about growing
Speaker 4: up in Orange County also, and you know, I grew
Speaker 4: up in Anaheim, and most of my friends in Anaheim
Speaker 4: just knew I was the child actor, so it wasn't
Speaker 4: that big of a deal. Like when I did Full House,
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, yeah, you're on Full House whatever, you know,
Speaker 4: And these are all kids I knew my whole life.
Speaker 4: And then in ninth grade, I moved to your Belinda
Speaker 4: and I went to a new high school. And that
Speaker 4: was culture shock, you know what I mean. I was like, like, look,
Speaker 4: I was kind of a dorky, chubby kid, you know,
Speaker 4: didn't know anybody, you know, went from like high school
Speaker 4: where the cholos were the coolest kids you could imagine,
Speaker 4: to a high school where, like, you know, the the
Speaker 4: white kids wearing the Metallica te shirt were the coolest
Speaker 4: kids you could imagine. And I was stuck somewhere in
Speaker 4: the middle. And you know, it wasn't bad, but I
Speaker 4: didn't really know anybody, you know, I was. I went
Speaker 4: from being having tons of friends and to just sort
Speaker 4: of being like nervous, you know, like we all are
Speaker 4: at that age. Yeah, yeah, anyhow, and then I can't remember.
Speaker 4: I think it was the second episode I was on.
Speaker 4: I think if I remember, right, you know, I did
Speaker 4: that episode, and that episode aired, and I didn't think
Speaker 4: much of it because you know, this has happened many
Speaker 4: times in my childhood life. And then I went into
Speaker 4: first period and the girl who sat in front of me,
Speaker 4: who like I was just nervous, she was really pretty
Speaker 4: and cooler than me and all of that. As soon
Speaker 4: as I sat down, she turned around and looked at
Speaker 4: me and she went, your Jake bitterman, aren't you? And
Speaker 4: I looked at her. I was like yeah. And then
Speaker 4: I looked and like the whole class was looking at me,
Speaker 4: and and and primarily they hadn't even noticed that I existed,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It wasn't like I said,
Speaker 4: it wasn't bad, but I was just a kid that
Speaker 4: sort of sat in the back of the class, the
Speaker 4: new kid whatever. And all of a sudden, that's all
Speaker 4: everybody wanted to talk about, which was it was great.
Speaker 4: It was like, all of a sudden, everybody was like,
Speaker 4: I can't believe it. You're in a full house. I'm like,
Speaker 4: oh my, you know, wow, wow wow. Then I went
Speaker 4: to second period and the same thing happened, and then,
Speaker 4: you know, and then and then and then the whole day,
Speaker 4: the same thing happened, and then somewhere in that world
Speaker 4: people started calling me Bitterman and and oh no, no no,
Speaker 4: And I mean it really turned out wonderful. You know.
Speaker 4: It sort of existed, you know, halfway, goofing off, halfway
Speaker 4: making fun of, halfway, sort of being accepted into the
Speaker 4: you know world that became the high school world, and
Speaker 4: the name Bitterman stuck. And I have friends in high
Speaker 4: school that at various times didn't like later on that
Speaker 4: I knew, like, you know, you go to parties and
Speaker 4: maybe meet other friends, and they would just know me
Speaker 4: as Jacob. Even you know, a good friend of mine
Speaker 4: started calling me Jacob and people just call me Jacob.
Speaker 4: And then like friends from other schools would be calling
Speaker 4: me Jacob, and they'd hear somebody call me Christian and
Speaker 4: they look at me, they be like, why do they
Speaker 4: call you Christian?
Speaker 5: Oh my god?
Speaker 4: And I would be like, oh, oh, that's my name.
Speaker 4: And they'd be like, where did Jacob come from? And
Speaker 4: I'd be like, well, interesting story, funny enough, since that's
Speaker 4: funny enough. I even had we joke around it to
Speaker 4: this day. A good friend of mine that I knew
Speaker 4: in high school. Knew through high school. When I was
Speaker 4: in grad school. He lived next to my grad school.
Speaker 4: By the way, I went to grad school at Chapman.
Speaker 4: I think you went.
Speaker 5: To Chapman.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, but he lived next door, so I'd always
Speaker 4: go over to this house for lunch. We kind of
Speaker 4: had a little resurgence or friendship. I was in my
Speaker 4: mid thirties at the time, and uh, one day something
Speaker 4: happened where he saw my last name Guzek and he
Speaker 4: looked at me, he goes, that's your last name, and
Speaker 4: this is somebody I had known since we were fifteen.
Speaker 4: And I went yeah, and he goes, it's not Bitterman.
Speaker 4: And I looked at him and I was like, I
Speaker 4: was like, wait, wait, wait, are you serious? And he
Speaker 4: went yeah, where did Bitterman come from? And I just
Speaker 4: started laughing and I was like, well, oh my god,
Speaker 4: I'm like, uh crazy, you never knew. And I like
Speaker 4: filled him in when you know, we were like in
Speaker 4: our mid thirties, and it was hilarious, you know, I mean,
Speaker 4: because he lived he literally thought my name was somehow
Speaker 4: you know, Christian, or you know, he knew Christian, but
Speaker 4: he thought my name was somehow like Christian. Bitterman or
Speaker 4: something like that, you know what I mean, Like, and
Speaker 4: he had no idea about full House or anything.
Speaker 2: Oh and we.
Speaker 1: Well, Bitterman is a catchy million you know, it just
Speaker 1: rolls off the tongue Bitterman, and you know, I love
Speaker 1: it totally.
Speaker 4: It's funny. And and like I said, it's it's been
Speaker 4: something that I just embraced from the beginning and has
Speaker 4: been a real fun, you know, great icebreaker, something to
Speaker 4: laugh about, you know. Like like I said, it really
Speaker 4: sort of characterized me through high school and and and
Speaker 4: even just went beyond actually people knowing about the show,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: And just right, that's so wild, Like I mean, some
Speaker 3: things that could grow a life of their own, you know, Bitterman.
Speaker 5: Became this whole Like that's just hilarious to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's very a very relatable story.
Speaker 1: You mentioned about getting recognized in class, and you're just like,
Speaker 1: oh my, I'm glad you have such a great attitude
Speaker 1: about it, because not every former child actor is like that,
Speaker 1: you know, they kind of want to distance themselves from
Speaker 1: their past. But it was Jody and I mean we've
Speaker 1: always embraced it.
Speaker 2: Though you know, high school might have been a little
Speaker 2: bit different.
Speaker 5: Right, Well, there wasn't anyway, you go, No, it wasn't.
Speaker 5: That wasn't me. I don't, Yeah it's not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's a little harder, but no, I'm so
Speaker 1: glad to hear that it was a positive, a positive interaction,
Speaker 1: and that it gave.
Speaker 2: You some street cred. It gave you some street cred
Speaker 2: in your Belinda, right.
Speaker 5: The mean streets in your Belinda.
Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, you know those those tough streets. Definitely absolutely did.
Speaker 4: It was a yeah, yeah, yeah it was. It's it's
Speaker 4: really just been a look, it's it's been positive the
Speaker 4: whole time. And and and I say this not even joking.
Speaker 4: I owe a lot of that to you know, different
Speaker 4: sets I worked on, but but certainly the full house set.
Speaker 4: I mean, you guys were so positive and warm and
Speaker 4: welcoming and friendly and supportive and and let's face it,
Speaker 4: I was just like a nervous you know, and and
Speaker 4: really like for me at least, when I look back
Speaker 4: on all of that, it's filled with those experiences, you know,
Speaker 4: and and and I just look at it like what's
Speaker 4: not to smile?
Speaker 5: Uh, you know, and and love really yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So how did you get into acting? Was this
Speaker 1: something your parents put you into or is it like
Speaker 1: a dream you had at a young age.
Speaker 4: No, you know, my my mom is the perpetual stage.
Speaker 4: I love her to death. She's still my best friend
Speaker 4: and and and trust me, she is you know. She
Speaker 4: would have me leave my career tomorrow to to uh
Speaker 4: be on that callback for this, you know, the Snickers commercial.
Speaker 2: Right'vailed totally totally.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's again. Even
Speaker 4: that as an adult is such a wonderfully positive thing
Speaker 4: in my adult life, even like, like, god, I'm sorry
Speaker 4: to have to tell you guys the story too.
Speaker 2: Is this this is your time. We want to hear
Speaker 2: all your stories.
Speaker 4: So so you have to understand. You know, my my
Speaker 4: mom and my dad are like mine and my wife's
Speaker 4: best friends. You know, we lived back to back for
Speaker 4: like twenty years. We we actually both moved. Yeah, we
Speaker 4: both moved, and after we moved, they moved. They moved
Speaker 4: into the same neighborhood, you know, so we still live
Speaker 4: very close. We'll just really close, you know.
Speaker 5: And that's so sweet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's wonderful, it's it is. Anyhow, you know,
Speaker 4: there's a continual joke of everybody that knows me and
Speaker 4: my mom about you know, like, you know, Christian, be ready,
Speaker 4: you have your headshot ready.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Like right, if your headshot
Speaker 3: and resume? Yeah, yeah, you remember your social Security numbers
Speaker 3: so you can write it down on a public document
Speaker 3: at some some sort of audition so that everyone can
Speaker 3: take it.
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, right right.
Speaker 4: I think about that all the time, by the way,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like, I have no worry
Speaker 4: about my Social Security number.
Speaker 5: It's right, You're like, oh please, I survived the eighties
Speaker 5: as a child. After that. I wrote that on every
Speaker 5: wall in La Yeah.
Speaker 4: Exactly, exactly. It's just it's just there everywhere, you know.
Speaker 4: But but there's this continual joke like again everywhere that
Speaker 4: I'm at and whatnot and and uh and so you know,
Speaker 4: I've so I've worked in finance for a long time,
Speaker 4: you know, really sort of straightforward whatever, mostly boring job.
Speaker 4: But but but you know, real fun and loose at
Speaker 4: the same time. And uh and at this time, you know,
Speaker 4: I happened to be you know, sort of the lead
Speaker 4: in the office, and the office was a real loose environment.
Speaker 4: We all goofed around. My parents would often come by,
Speaker 4: my brother even worked in that office, and so everybody
Speaker 4: knew that, like Christian childhood actor lore, you know, and
Speaker 4: there was a joke. You know. It was often you know,
Speaker 4: like if we were talking about something else, you know,
Speaker 4: like and they were disagreeing with me, they'd be like,
Speaker 4: you better get that headshot ready for your mom, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like that was right, that was ready. Anyhow,
Speaker 4: So I'm sitting at and my mom calls me and
Speaker 4: and I'm even in the middle with helping another person
Speaker 4: that works with me. We're working in a deal. It's
Speaker 4: a little bit serious, you know. When my mom calls
Speaker 4: and and I just grabed while he's sitting right there,
Speaker 4: and she's like Christian I think it was Warner brother
Speaker 4: but Christian Warner Brothers called, like stuff, what you're doing,
Speaker 4: you know? And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, what's up.
Speaker 4: She's like, no, a Fuller House called. You know, here's
Speaker 4: here's the number of this producer called. You need to
Speaker 4: call them back, you know what I mean. And I
Speaker 4: was like, Okay, okay, mom, cool, cool, okay, what's the name?
Speaker 4: You know, Like, and I'm I'm in my head thinking
Speaker 4: about some things that we're sort of in a in
Speaker 4: an argument about about you know, some deal we're working
Speaker 4: on and and you know, and and she's you know,
Speaker 4: and so I take it down, you know, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: all right, mom, all right, I'll call him. And I
Speaker 4: hang up the phone and I start moving back to
Speaker 4: talk about you know, you know, my you know, my
Speaker 4: partner's deal, and he stops me. He goes, whoa bro
Speaker 4: Warner Brothers called. And I looked at him. I'm like,
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, yeah, okay, whatever, I'll call him in
Speaker 4: a second, you know what I mean, like, like, hold on,
Speaker 4: we got to call this client. And I start to
Speaker 4: pick up the phone and he puts his hand his
Speaker 4: finger on the phone like to hang up, and he
Speaker 4: looks at me real serious. He goes, Warner Brothers called,
Speaker 4: you better listen to your mom. We need to call
Speaker 4: Warner Brothers right now. And I'm here. I mean, it's
Speaker 4: his deal. And I'm here like.
Speaker 3: He's like no, no, no, you don't understand. This is
Speaker 3: this doesn't happen to normal people. You're like, ah, this
Speaker 3: is following me again.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just like whatever, I'll call him. What is
Speaker 4: it going to be like? And and he's even more
Speaker 4: playing than like, you better listen to your mom's man,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Right right?
Speaker 4: And I look at him and he literally has his like,
Speaker 4: you know, finger on the hang up button. And I
Speaker 4: look at him like, all right, fine, let's call him.
Speaker 4: So I call, you know whatever, the number and and
Speaker 4: and one are the producer's answers, and you know, I say, hi,
Speaker 4: you know, this is Christian Ghuzick. I heard somebody called
Speaker 4: for me. And he stops and he goes, is this Christian?
Speaker 4: And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's Christian. And he's
Speaker 4: like Christian Guzick and I'm like, yeah, Christian. He goes
Speaker 4: the actor of the play, Jake Vigerman, and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 4: yeah it is. And and mind you, my you know,
Speaker 4: really good friend is standing right next to me just
Speaker 4: milking all of this up.
Speaker 3: Oh god, right, You're like, yeah, your best friend, your
Speaker 3: friends will be like your biggest cheerleader, but also make
Speaker 3: fun of you the entire time, right, Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: His mind. We had just been involved in this real nervous,
Speaker 4: tense discussion and he's already away from it, even though
Speaker 4: he's the one that has like all this money on
Speaker 4: the deal. And I'm just trying to work it out
Speaker 4: for him, and I'm still my mind's still like in
Speaker 4: that conversation and and and I'm like yeah, and he goes,
Speaker 4: oh my god, oh my god, hold on, hold on,
Speaker 4: I need to close the door. And he closes the
Speaker 4: door and he comes back. He goes, hey, he goes, oh,
Speaker 4: we've been looking for you. And I start laughing, you
Speaker 4: know what i mean. I'm like, I'm like, oh, I'm
Speaker 4: like okay. I'm like, well I'm here, you know what
Speaker 4: i mean. I start goofing off too. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 4: available if you need me, you know what i mean. Like,
Speaker 4: and I'm just sorry, playing back to him, and he goes, oh.
Speaker 4: So he goes, what do you do now. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: you know, I work at a bank and finance. He's like, okay,
Speaker 4: so a regular job. I'm like, yes, yes, yes, look,
Speaker 4: I'm not available for anybody, but a Foolhouse needs me
Speaker 4: on there. And he starts laughing and he's like, you know,
Speaker 4: He's like thank hun and I'm like and I stop.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm like, okay, seriously, what's going on? Like
Speaker 4: you know, I know Fuller House is on the air,
Speaker 4: you know what i mean. And he goes, look, he's
Speaker 4: like okay. He's like, I'm just gonna level with you.
Speaker 4: He's like, we uh we cut together or the second
Speaker 4: season and you're in it. And I was like, oh cool,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And he goes, oh, thank goodness,
Speaker 4: and and I'm like, what what is it like? Like
Speaker 4: is it? He goes, well, we thought they had cleared you.
Speaker 4: And he goes and it turns out and nobody has
Speaker 4: talked to you for thirty years, you know.
Speaker 3: So it's like they used a clip in the show
Speaker 3: and they hadn't cleared it with you, right, And they.
Speaker 4: Hadn't they hadn't released it yet, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: And whatever that that that dude date was coming and
Speaker 4: he was like, are you willing to sign a release?
Speaker 4: And and I'm like, of course, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And I stopped. I went hold on though, and and
Speaker 4: and I put him on speaker phone and I stood
Speaker 4: up to the whole office and I said, everybody, Hollywood's
Speaker 4: on the phone. We got a release coming. Be careful,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And I picked the phone
Speaker 4: back up and he's laughing and he's like, you're just joking, right,
Speaker 4: And I'm like, no, I'm totally joking, like what do
Speaker 4: you need me to sign? You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: And and he's like, can I email it to you whatever?
Speaker 4: I'm like yeah, He's like can you do it like
Speaker 4: right now? And I start laughing and I'm like, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm even joking around with him. I'm like, man, I right,
Speaker 4: I've got you guys by the short hair.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I'm sure some lawyer and Warner Brothers was
Speaker 3: having a hemorrhage like what do you mean you don't
Speaker 3: have a signed clearance document for this? Right?
Speaker 4: And it was totally and Sue is.
Speaker 3: For everything we right, yeah, exactly, And so I started
Speaker 3: let it turns out to be really bitter and actually
Speaker 3: takes this him Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: Totally and and uh and he's like and and and
Speaker 4: he stops and he goes, you're gonna get paid, and
Speaker 4: I went, WHOA wait a minute. And I put him
Speaker 4: back on a hold and I looked at everybody. I said,
Speaker 4: I quit, Hollywood's paying me. I'm done. We're done, and
Speaker 4: like and he's like no, no, no, no, And I picked up.
Speaker 4: I'm like, come on, I'm joking, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: He's like, it's only thirty seven dollars come, please come.
Speaker 4: That's before taxes, before taxes, and uh and and and
Speaker 4: so is just laughing and and I, you know, I'm like,
Speaker 4: I'm like no, I'm like like I don't I don't
Speaker 4: care about that at all. I'm like, send it over.
Speaker 4: And and and he's like, he's like, all right, cool,
Speaker 4: He's like and he's like, you don't need to talk
Speaker 4: about the pay I'm like no, I'm like, look, I
Speaker 4: would just sign it for free. I don't care. He's like, well,
Speaker 4: we have to pay you because of zag and everything,
Speaker 4: you know, and and uh and and I'm like cool,
Speaker 4: I'm like I'll take the free money obviously, you know,
Speaker 4: residuals are great, but you know, don't worry about it.
Speaker 4: Send it over, sign it. And he sent it over
Speaker 4: and signed it, you know, and I sent it back,
Speaker 4: and of course my mom called and was like, okay,
Speaker 4: what was it? You know, like, are are we going?
Speaker 5: I'm my bag is packed right.
Speaker 2: Right, I've got my let's let's go.
Speaker 4: Thomas. I listened to you guys talking about the Thomas Guide,
Speaker 4: and it brought a to heer to my office.
Speaker 2: That's how we got to all of our auditions. Was
Speaker 2: the Thomas guy.
Speaker 4: You remember navigating the Thomas Guide for my mom left
Speaker 4: and right, D six to page whatever.
Speaker 3: You got to jump to the next page. Oh no,
Speaker 3: it's J five on this one right, and you're like, oh,
Speaker 3: where's lebre.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh god, we were GPS.
Speaker 3: But it's also why we're all going to be okay
Speaker 3: in the ZBA apocalypse because we can readmaps.
Speaker 4: So totally. It's funny you say GPS. I tell people
Speaker 4: all the time. When I was like ten years old,
Speaker 4: I envisioned GPS, like I in my head, it existed,
Speaker 4: and it wasn't satellites. It was putting cameras on every
Speaker 4: freeway overpass everywhere so you could transmit the live data
Speaker 4: and it was better then. It would be better then
Speaker 4: at the time. If you remember like the radio shows
Speaker 4: that you would have to listen right right.
Speaker 5: Yeah for traffic information to the AM whatever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, am whatever, you know, and the traffic update
Speaker 4: would come on the fives and forty fives. I think yeah, yeah, oh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and NPR it like yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: And and in my head I would I would just
Speaker 4: sit there and be like, no, there's a better way.
Speaker 4: There's a better way, Like we could just put cameras
Speaker 4: everywhere and then just transmit that real time data to everybody.
Speaker 4: But I was like, you know, ten years old, falling
Speaker 4: asleep in the car, trying to carsick.
Speaker 5: Right right. You were like, this is I just want
Speaker 5: this for me? Really, that's all I want.
Speaker 3: Yeah, to be able to take a nap and not
Speaker 3: have to figure out a rerouting through downtown LA.
Speaker 4: It helped me though. For a small portion of my career,
Speaker 4: I actually had to make a commute from Orange County
Speaker 4: to Westlake Village.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Every day for about two years.
Speaker 5: Oh that's a grind.
Speaker 2: Oh that is hard, that's awful.
Speaker 5: So why do you hate yourself? No? Yeah, yeah, what
Speaker 5: are you? Yeah, why would you do that to yourself? No,
Speaker 5: that's really that is really rough. That's painful.
Speaker 3: I don't even like going to Westlake Village from where
Speaker 3: I live and I live in LA, but it's terrible.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: You get to like, you know, like the Deep Valley
Speaker 4: and you're like, oh, we only have another five minutes ago.
Speaker 2: Right yeah.
Speaker 5: Oh man, Yeah.
Speaker 3: It was the things that we did is as child
Speaker 3: actors are a little we we could have we we.
Speaker 5: Could have invented GPS you could have invented.
Speaker 4: I know it slipped through my fingers, it did. It
Speaker 4: did help me though, because you know we carpoled. There's
Speaker 4: three of us that had to do it. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: we all we all dreaded it, but like they were
Speaker 4: amazed by you know, I knew every street already.
Speaker 1: Know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, You're like, oh I could that's right, get off
Speaker 3: here and make a left, go down this way, go yeah,
Speaker 3: like you could figure your way around.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Ways would uh you know, ways would give us
Speaker 4: routes and I'd be like, no, we don't want to
Speaker 4: go there, like no, no, no, here's yeah, there's a
Speaker 4: cut through over here, and they how do you know this?
Speaker 4: I'd be like, you don't.
Speaker 3: Know, Like there's not a light there, it's gonna suck
Speaker 3: making a left.
Speaker 5: Trust me go down to this one. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 5: it should have been.
Speaker 3: Child actor GPS, that's what that's what we Yeah, although
Speaker 3: it's true these days, I'm like I can find my
Speaker 3: way around anything. But like so Andrea, I just it's
Speaker 3: so fun to see you guys reunited because you were
Speaker 3: the first kiss.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, you.
Speaker 1: Do you know that you were my very first kiss,
Speaker 1: like of all time, like on stage and off stage
Speaker 1: like that was it for me?
Speaker 2: The very first one?
Speaker 4: So did you I do remember that from when we
Speaker 4: did the show totally totally.
Speaker 1: Was I your first kiss or did you already have
Speaker 1: experience in that part?
Speaker 5: We've heard me say that before.
Speaker 2: Good answer, good answer, Bitterman.
Speaker 4: Yeah, totally, but I remember that. Do you remember how
Speaker 4: we all had like, what was that?
Speaker 5: My god?
Speaker 3: I think never recovered from that. Still it singed them
Speaker 3: off totally. It was just rubbing alcohol with a mint flavor.
Speaker 3: I think it really is what that one?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So was it nerve wracking? Was it as nerve
Speaker 1: wracking for you as it was for me? Because I
Speaker 1: was like so nervous, not only because of the pressure
Speaker 1: of the first kiss, but the fact that there was
Speaker 1: a studio audience of two hundred people and my parents
Speaker 1: that's crazy there as well. It was just like that
Speaker 1: is so much pressure on a thirteen year old.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So were you nervous too, or were you just like, eh,
Speaker 2: this is.
Speaker 4: Just actually I mean I was nervous, but probably for
Speaker 4: a lot of different reasons, you know. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 4: I I can't imagine sort of your position in that
Speaker 4: being your first kiss, Like I remember I remember talking
Speaker 4: about it. I remember like that was sort of the
Speaker 4: you know, not rumor, but a sort of word on
Speaker 4: the set, you know what I mean. And oh god,
Speaker 4: and again like like it was such a positive set
Speaker 4: and such a friendly set with everybody. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Then yeah, it was your family all being like, oh
Speaker 3: you know, And that was the thing too. It's not
Speaker 3: like we were it was like your family standing there
Speaker 3: and watch.
Speaker 5: It was just yeah, it.
Speaker 4: Was totally totally. But like like you knows, as a
Speaker 4: thirteen year old, you know, you have to understand too,
Speaker 4: like just coming on to a set, you know where
Speaker 4: where it's so I mean, you guys know this too,
Speaker 4: probably from other jobs. But you come on as as
Speaker 4: a you know, as as a spot character or whatever,
Speaker 4: and everybody's there and you guys all have you know,
Speaker 4: these sort of great you know whatever, you know, jobs
Speaker 4: and and and and track records and performances, and as
Speaker 4: a thirteen year old kid who's just kind of a
Speaker 4: brady kid that you know, has it, doesn't really think
Speaker 4: about acting, just sort of you know, Brady kid, you
Speaker 4: come on and it's just you're just nervous, you know,
Speaker 4: you just want to kind of fit in and and
Speaker 4: so there's so much of that going going on with
Speaker 4: me when all of that was going on, and if
Speaker 4: I try to think about it, I really just remember
Speaker 4: that of just this sort of you know, overwhelmingness of Okay,
Speaker 4: I'm I'm on the show and the show is such
Speaker 4: a hit, and and you know, i just don't want
Speaker 4: to screw up, and I'm just trying to remember my
Speaker 4: lines and all of that type of stuff. And but again,
Speaker 4: you guys, and and I mean most sets, but you
Speaker 4: guys really have such a friendly, fun environment that it
Speaker 4: was so supportive, you know, and like that like like
Speaker 4: sort of knowing from the hair and makeup or I
Speaker 4: think it was if I remember right, it was even
Speaker 4: Laurie Laughlin that.
Speaker 3: Told me that it was it probably I think it
Speaker 3: was probably Laura. Yeah, that sounds like a very laur
Speaker 3: thing to do, because like Laurie was was like the
Speaker 3: you know, the maternal figure.
Speaker 5: Sort of within our cast.
Speaker 3: So she was that sounds and Laurie is the one
Speaker 3: that would be like finding out information, letting you know.
Speaker 3: I think she even said when she was on the
Speaker 3: show that she said something to him, didn't she say.
Speaker 2: That was a different that was a different boyfriend.
Speaker 5: That's right. I remember him.
Speaker 3: That was that was but no, that was like a
Speaker 3: very laury thing to do. Yeah, and only but you
Speaker 3: were it was only you in her heart. It was
Speaker 3: only you in her heart.
Speaker 1: So yes, he can never be replaced, bitterman, never be
Speaker 1: replaced in my heart.
Speaker 3: Right, but that does that sounds like a Lari sort
Speaker 3: of mom intervention where she'd.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, for sure, because she knows how unhinged I was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she was very ably trying to calm me down, talk
Speaker 1: to you, brief you about, Hey, this is what's going on.
Speaker 1: Andrew's a little nervous.
Speaker 4: Well, And I remember her being every time I was
Speaker 4: on the show, you know, and she was so like,
Speaker 4: you know, like such an adult from my perspective at that.
Speaker 3: Time, right and now there were like they're like mid twenties,
Speaker 3: and we were like they're so they're so wise, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, I'm me at twenty six,
Speaker 3: twenty seven, I.
Speaker 5: Was an idiot.
Speaker 4: Totally, Yes, totally, but but but I remember even her
Speaker 4: in particular, was, you know, every time I came on
Speaker 4: the set, really, you know, I'm probably just on her
Speaker 4: end in her mid twenties. I was like, oh, hey,
Speaker 4: Bitterman's back on you know, what's his name again? Oh Christian, Okay,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But like I remember, she
Speaker 4: would always just be very nice and friendly and you know,
Speaker 4: and from my perspective, she was just this like unbelievably
Speaker 4: a gorgeous, you know, adult. But I do seem to
Speaker 4: remember she. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, but I
Speaker 4: swear she was the one that said something to me
Speaker 4: sort of just sitting there.
Speaker 2: But I believe it. I believe it. That's Laurie, always
Speaker 2: taking care of others. Yeah, that is absolutely Laurie.
Speaker 3: Oh, fan Rito's We're so happy you joined us today
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