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Become a member today and 10 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: you'll get access to our full shows, unedited, ad free, 11 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 2: and all put together for you every morning in your inbox. 12 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 3: We need your help to build the future of independent 13 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 3: news media and we hope to see you at Breakingpoints 14 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 3: dot com. 15 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 2: So we've got a bunch of updates here on the 16 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 2: home front about the censorship regime that the Trump administration 17 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 2: is trying to put in place at this point, threatening 18 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 2: broadcasters who dare accurately cover his disastrous or these are 19 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 2: some comments from Air Force one last night from Trump himself. 20 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and take a listen. 21 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 4: They put out sorting the comakazie votes. The comic Kazie 22 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 4: boots don't exist. Yeah, fake, and you can op see 23 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 4: that when you look at them. It looks because if 24 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 4: they did exist, we'd hit them just like we hit 25 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 4: other boats all over the place, but they don't exist. 26 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 4: In fact, some of the people say, where are the bus? Well, 27 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 4: how come nobody see the bus? You know why? Because 28 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 4: it's AI generated. It's fake and I found it, realized 29 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 4: this before we started. But Iran is known for a 30 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 4: lot of fake news, and they deal with our fake news. 31 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 4: And I actually think it's pretty criminal because our media companies, 32 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 4: who have no credibility whatsoever, are putting out information that 33 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 4: they know is false, and it's a very dangerous thing 34 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 4: for the country. I think it's I think they could 35 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 4: be a serious jeopardy. 36 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: So I know that's hard to hear, but he says 37 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: there that the coverage is pretty criminal of these specific things, 38 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: and let's go and put his true social up there. 39 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: This is from this is d two guys, just to 40 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: emphasize how, you know, how hard he's going on this 41 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: against journalists in the way that they for the war. 42 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: Here he is threatening to charge media outlets with treason 43 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 2: if they report things in a way that he does 44 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: not personally like. So he says Iran has long been 45 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: known as a master of media manipulation in public relations. 46 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: They're militarily ineffective and weak, but are really good at 47 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 2: feeding the very appreciative fake news media false information. Now 48 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 2: AI has become another disinformation weapon that Iran uses quite well, 49 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: considering they're and being annihilated by the day. They showed 50 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: phony Kamakazi boats. This is what he was talking about 51 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: in that clip shooting at various ships at sea, which 52 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 2: looks wonderful, powerful and vicious. But these votes don't exist. 53 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 2: It's all false information. Show how tough they're already defeated. 54 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: Military is the five US refueling planes that were supposedly 55 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: struck down and badly damage, according to Wall Street Journal's 56 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: fake reporting and others are all in service, with exception 57 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: of one which will soon be flying. The skies, buildings 58 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 2: and ships that are shown to be on fire are not. 59 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: It's fake news generated by AI. For instance, Iran working 60 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: close coordination with the fake news media, shows our great 61 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 2: USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier, one of the largest and 62 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: most prestigious ships in the world, burning uncontrollably in the ocean. 63 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: Not only was it not burning, it was not even 64 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: shot at. Iran knows better than to do that. Isn't 65 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,119 Speaker 2: that the one sacer Di supposedly there was a laundry 66 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: fire that was the alleged problem there. The story was 67 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: knowingly fake, and in a certain way you can say 68 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: that those media outlets that generated it should be brought 69 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: up on charges for treason for the dissemination of false information. 70 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: The fact is Iran is being decimated. The only battles 71 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: they win are those that they create through AI and 72 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: are distributed by corrupt media outlets. The radical left wing 73 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: press knows this full well, but continues to go forward 74 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: with false stories and lies. That's why their approval rating 75 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: is so low. I can win a presidential election in 76 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: a landslide getting only five percent positive press. They have 77 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: no credibility. I'm so thrilled to see Brendan Carr, the 78 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: chair of the Federal Communications Commission, looking at the licenses 79 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: of some of these corrupt and highly unpatriotic news and 80 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: scare quotes organizations. They get billions of dollars of free 81 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: American airways and use it to perpetuate lies booked the 82 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: news and almost all of their shows, including late night morons, 83 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: who get gigantic salaries for horrible ratings and never get 84 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: As I used to say in the apprentice fired. Thank 85 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: you for your attention to this matter. So not only 86 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: does he say maybe we should file charges of treason 87 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: against companies media companies that report things that we don't like, 88 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: but number two, I'm glad to see that Brendan Carr, 89 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: chair of the FCC, is already moving in the direction 90 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: of threatening media outlets and threatening their broadcast licenses for 91 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: quote unquote unpatriotic news. Yes, just so disturbing and orwellian. 92 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 3: Well you can already see. Let's put Brendan Carrs tweet 93 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 3: up there, guys, this is d one. He's the FCC chairman. 94 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 3: He says, broadcasters that are running hoaxes and news distortions 95 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 3: also known as fake news, have a chance now to 96 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: correct course before their license renewals come up. The law 97 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 3: is clear broadcasters must operate in the public interest. They 98 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: will lose their license if they do not, frankly changing 99 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 3: courses in their own business interest. 100 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:02,239 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. 101 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 3: The point is is that this would affect the direct 102 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 3: network's NBC or NBC ABC, et cetera that actually still 103 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: require a broadcast license from the FCC. Yours truly, you know, 104 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 3: we're all here on the Internet and or cable news, 105 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 3: who wouldn't be as effected. 106 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: But if you compare the two. 107 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 3: Things together, CBS News and obviously the Trump administrative support 108 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 3: for CBS News, you can see how they're trying to 109 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 3: control the narrative. What Trump said there is empirically bullshit. 110 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,239 Speaker 3: For example, do you remember that crowd that we showed 111 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 3: Crystal for the morning of the iatola for his funeral. 112 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: He is saying that's Ai generated. 113 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 3: It literally came from a photographer working for the New 114 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 3: York Times. It's not Ai generated. And now there's a 115 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: couple things that are very scary about that. Do you 116 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 3: want to know who claimed that it was AI generated? 117 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: The Israel? 118 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 4: Yea. 119 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: So how did Israel. 120 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 3: Lobby BS talking points get into the brain and the 121 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 3: mouth of the President of the United States. 122 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: That's a very interesting question. 123 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 3: So much so that he wants to file trees in 124 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: charges against the people who publish and or talk about 125 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 3: such videos. Then you have combined the FCC and this 126 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 3: so called patriotic news. I saw this first during this 127 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 3: press conference with Pete Hegsath. 128 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: We have D three. 129 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 3: Let's go and play this is from Friday where he's 130 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: lambasting the press for accurately giving a report of what's 131 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 3: going on with Iran. 132 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: Let's take a listen. 133 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 5: Or more fake news from CNN reports that the Trump 134 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 5: administration underestimated the Iran War's impact on the Strait of 135 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 5: Horror moves patently ridiculous. Of course, for decades, Iran has 136 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 5: threatened shipping in the street of horror moves. This is 137 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 5: always what they do. Hold the straight hostage. CNN doesn't 138 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 5: think we thought of that. It's a fundamentally unserious report. 139 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 5: The sooner David Ellison takes over that network, the better. 140 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 3: The sooner David Ellison takes out of that network, the better. 141 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 3: What do you think that exactly shows you in terms 142 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 3: of their support for David Ellison, who was Lindsey Graham's 143 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 3: guest for the State of the Union. Do you remember 144 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 3: that one that David literally Lindsey Graham's guest for the 145 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 3: State of the Union, is going to be owning CNN. 146 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 3: So they're going to stem similar By the way, who's 147 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: going to be affected by a broadcast license because of 148 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 3: total oligarcher ownership of media and so called patriotic press. 149 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 3: And in the press conference, Pete Hegg sat out there 150 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: is talking about how you shouldn't say things like For example, 151 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 3: he took issue with the headline where it was like 152 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 3: Iran war widens. 153 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: How could you be take issue with that? 154 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: He said, you should say Iran is defeated or Iran 155 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: is not doing as well or something like that. I 156 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 3: was like, Iran war widens is a statement of literal 157 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 3: empirical fact. If you hit ten countries in a single day, 158 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 3: that's widening. 159 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: That's what it's called. And I mean, look, this is nuts. 160 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: And when we I mean compare it with war about 161 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 3: to talk about with Tucker, it's this is the most 162 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 3: dangerous thing. It is also entirely fitting with every time 163 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 3: that this nation goes to war, Americans who live under 164 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 3: it become less free. The censorship that happens, either self 165 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 3: censorship or state pressure that happened under Iraq shaped the 166 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 3: entire environment for pushing the country into war under false 167 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 3: pretenses under Vietnam. Very similarly, the crazy amounts of censorship 168 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 3: state pressure that was here at home, it empowered the state, 169 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 3: remember the Patriot Act. Of course, also after nine to eleven, 170 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 3: during World War Two, we had literal government censorship where 171 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 3: they're deciding what or whatnot you know, different reporters can 172 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 3: report out from the battlefield. And then the origins of 173 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 3: wartime censorship of a lot of the power of the 174 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 3: state is the American Civil War and the First World War, 175 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 3: where they had the exact same situation play out here 176 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 3: at home state power locking people up for reporting things badly, 177 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 3: using an expansion of surveillance and censorship, all under the 178 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 3: guise of patriotism and supporting the war effort. This is 179 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 3: why it is so dangerous actually for us here at 180 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 3: the home front. And in those cases, many of those 181 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 3: wars were much more popular crystal than this one is today. 182 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 3: If you launch a war with sixty percent disapproved, I mean, 183 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 3: just imagine the way that you're gonna have to censor 184 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 3: your way out. 185 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: Of that one. 186 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 3: So you actually could see an even bigger crackdown that 187 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 3: comes from At that time, at least people were buying 188 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 3: the bs this time. 189 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: Not so sure not this time. 190 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 6: Yeah. 191 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 2: And Trump is you know, I mean, he's deeply authoritarian 192 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 2: to begin with, and even before launching this incredibly unpopular 193 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: illegal war of choice, was aggressively going after the media. 194 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 2: And so, I mean, I think there's a few things 195 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 2: to note here. First of all, there is. This is 196 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 2: also a sign of weakness because they're clearly crashing out. 197 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: I mean, Trump himself is like lashing out at reporters 198 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 2: who ask questions. He doesn't like issuing these long, true 199 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 2: social posts. He put another one out defending the good 200 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 2: honor of Mark Levin. Blah blah blah. You know, Megan 201 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: Kelly said he had a micro penis. And now Trump's 202 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: got to come and ride to the rescue and make 203 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: sure everybody knows that Mark Levin is a great American patriot, 204 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. In any case, he's clearly crashing out, 205 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 2: and heg Seth is not saying this stuff on his own. 206 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 2: Brendan Carr is not saying this stuff on his own. 207 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: He was at Mara Lago right before he issues this statement, etc. 208 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: This is all coming directly from Trump, because if there's 209 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: one thing he knows, it is TV news coverage. And 210 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 2: he is watching this, and he knows, even in spite 211 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 2: of the fact that so much of the coverage is 212 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 2: pro war propaganda to an absurd degree, he is watching 213 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 2: this and going, this doesn't look good, this doesn't look good. 214 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 2: What can I do? And so he reaches for all 215 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: of his tools of bullying and threats and coercion. You know, 216 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 2: even prior to this, we had all the lawsuits against 217 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 2: media organizations to get them to bend to his will. 218 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: You have major media organizations being sold off to the 219 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 2: Ellisons at as Pete Hexeth reminds here, you know, you said, okay, 220 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: the threats against the primetime broadcasters like those don't apply 221 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 2: to cable news, they don't apply to where we are 222 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 2: on YouTube, et cetera. But hey, TikTok was sold off 223 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: to the Ellisons, so they have other means of, you know, 224 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 2: trying to coerce and trying to stifle dissent, and TikTok 225 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 2: thing was one h hundred percent over. They didn't like 226 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 2: the way that the Gaza war was being accurately portrayed, 227 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 2: the Gaza genocide was being accurately portrayed there. They didn't 228 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 2: like that. So you got a crony, a pro Zionist, 229 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: pro Trump crony, to go in and strike that deal. 230 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: You know, all these media companies, they are giant conglomerates. 231 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 2: They don't care about the news, they don't care about 232 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: the truth. What they care about is their bottom line. 233 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: So if you know, YouTube has a deal in front 234 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 2: of them. If any of these companies has a deal 235 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 2: in front of them they wanted to go through, they're 236 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 2: going to be listening to the closely to these words 237 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 2: about you know, unpatriotic content and how you've got to 238 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 2: be towing the go USA line, and some of that 239 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: stuff has real power. You also have the other effect 240 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 2: here is to try to gin up a lot of 241 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 2: public fervor and outrage at media outlets that cover things accurately. 242 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 2: So if we could put up D six ABC News, 243 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 2: they had a headline that I think again is just 244 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,599 Speaker 2: accurate reflection of what is going on. Even as a 245 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 2: run been pummeled by Israelian American air strikes, with its 246 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: military capabilities greatly diminished, which is actually the Trump administration's framing, 247 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 2: Tehran continues to demonstrate resolve both in adapting and expanding 248 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 2: its military tactics. Observers told ABC News that is just reality. 249 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 2: I mean, we you know, you guys saw that the 250 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 2: drone strike video. You saw the missiles that were landing 251 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 2: in Tel Aviv. You see the you know, the strait 252 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 2: of Hormos continue to be held, you see the oil refineries, 253 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: you know, struck in the GCC countries like that is 254 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 2: just accurate. And yet if you go and look at 255 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 2: the comments below this post, you have all these people 256 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 2: and can put some of these up on the screen 257 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 2: who are furious, how dare you this is Iranian propaganda? 258 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: You know, observers told ABC News the observers being their 259 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: news RT and Jackson Hinkele Iron is defending their own country. 260 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: The US is not well, that one is sort of accurate. 261 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 2: ABC News wants us to know that our enemies are 262 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 2: very strong and brave. So tons of outrage here in 263 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: the comments of people who want to be lied to. 264 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 2: That is what's going on here, and sadly, and you know, 265 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 2: we saw this in the Iraq War. There was a 266 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 2: large contingent of Americans who were desperate to be lied 267 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: to about that war as well. And we're furious at 268 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 2: anyone who tried to puncture that bubble. You know. The 269 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 2: other piece sober that I think is really important to 270 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: talk about here is Trump is right that AI has 271 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: destabilized reality. And you do see that. I mean, when 272 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: we're trying to figure out what is real, what's true, 273 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 2: what's false, et cetera, it is very difficult, very very difficult, 274 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: and we are I think, extremely conservative about the images 275 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 2: that we bring you. We only put up things that 276 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: are absolutely verified. You know, even then it continues to 277 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: be dicey, et cetera. But there's no doubt that it 278 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 2: has become much more difficult to separate truth from fiction 279 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 2: because of the quality of these AI deep fakes. Now 280 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 2: you know, the BB is BB alive or dead question 281 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 2: is a good good example of that. And so not 282 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 2: only do you have things that are fake that are 283 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 2: being disseminated that are you don't have the appearance of truth, 284 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 2: but also what Trump is doing is he's taking things 285 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 2: that actually did happen and trying to undermine your confidence 286 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: in them by saying no, no, no, that's AI. So, 287 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: like you said, the marches in protests in favor of 288 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: the government in Iran, which is the thing that really 289 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 2: has happened, not just once but multiple times, he wants 290 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: to say no, no, no, that's AI. And we saw 291 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 2: this playbook in Gaza as well, where they would say, 292 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 2: you know, oh, these horrific images that you're seeing, these 293 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: are AI, These are fake, this is Pollywood. Trump is 294 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 2: using that same playbook, and because AI has destabilized reality, unchecked. 295 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: AI has destabilized reality and there are no limits put 296 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: on this. There's no ability to tell true from truth 297 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: from fiction. It gives him an angle to be able 298 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: to push these bullshit Israeli talking points and to tell 299 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 2: you the truth. I think he believes it. I think 300 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: he believes that those protests were fake. I think he's 301 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: buying whatever his you know, the Israelian are telling him 302 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 2: at this point. 303 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: That is so crazy. 304 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think I think we should all be extremely, 305 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 3: extremely on guard because this can move fast. It can 306 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 3: move quick the power of the state. We're about to 307 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 3: talk about this with Tucker Carlson, and this what they 308 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 3: will do usually, this is actually what Yeah, let's just 309 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 3: move over to Tucker. We just talked a lot about 310 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 3: f the FCC, about government censorship. Usually what happens in 311 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 3: these cases is they pick a figurehead, they go after 312 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 3: him or her, try and make an example to send 313 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 3: a chilling message across all of media. Now, one of 314 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 3: the most prominent anti Iran war voices on the right, 315 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 3: Tucker Carlson, is saying that the CIA has been spying 316 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 3: on him his communications and maybe preferred may be preparing 317 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 3: a criminal referral as a result of some discussions that 318 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 3: he's had with the Iranian regime. 319 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: Let's take a listen. 320 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 6: So the other day I found out that the CIA 321 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 6: is preparing some kind of criminal referral against me, a 322 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 6: crime report the Department of Justice, on the basis of 323 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 6: a supposed crime I committed. What's that crime? Well, talking 324 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 6: to people in Iran before the war. They read my texts. 325 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 6: So the crime under consideration, apparently would be the Foreign 326 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 6: Agent Act or something like that, acting as an agent 327 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 6: of a foreign power. And I don't expect this to 328 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 6: go anywhere. I'm not too worried about an actual criminal 329 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 6: case against me for a bunch of reasons. One, I'm 330 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 6: not an agent of a foreign power. Unlike a lot 331 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 6: of people commenting on US politics and global affairs, I 332 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 6: have only one loyalty, and that's the United States and 333 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 6: have never acted against it. It's interests for the only 334 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 6: interests I care about, because I'm from here and I 335 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 6: have a lot of kids, so that's not a concern. 336 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 6: I've also never taken money from anybody. Don't need it, 337 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 6: don't want it, and that's provable. And moreover, it's my 338 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 6: job to talk to everybody all the time, and try 339 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 6: and figure out what's happening around the world. That's literally 340 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 6: what I do for a living. I'm not going to 341 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 6: stop doing that, nor should I. I don't think. I'm 342 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 6: also an American, I can talk to anybody. I have 343 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 6: no secrets to divulge, so legally, I think the case 344 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 6: is ludicrous and I doubt it will even become a case. 345 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 6: I'm bringing this up for a couple of reasons, though, 346 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 6: and they're pretty obvious. One is that countries tend to 347 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 6: become more authoritarian in wartime. It's just the nature of war. 348 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 6: People are dying, the stakes are high, people's emotions have 349 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 6: risen to a very high point, to a crescendo, and 350 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 6: so there's much less tolerance for any kind of descent 351 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 6: in the homeland. The irony, of course, is the United 352 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 6: States fights wars on behalf of freedom, but there's always 353 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 6: less of it here in our country during war. So 354 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 6: that's a widely recognized phenomenon, and it's likely to happen 355 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 6: now too. Another point to make that is worth knowing 356 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 6: is that the US I see the Intelligence Agency spy 357 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 6: on Americans. Now you probably knew that, and it's been 358 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 6: revealed a lot, including by Julina Soannge and Ed Snowden. 359 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 6: The humor threatened with death for revealing it, but everyone knows. 360 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 6: But it's probably a little more widespread than most people understand, 361 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 6: and it's likely that things like that will begin to 362 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 6: happen at greater scale now, So you should just know 363 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 6: that going forward. Thanks. 364 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 3: I think that that is incredibly obviously not only newsworthy, 365 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 3: but indicative, combined with the FCC warning that we just 366 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 3: gave to everybody about what this enhanced sort of wartime 367 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 3: censorship is going to look like Crystal So for example, 368 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 3: and let's actually zoom out, because what are the zion 369 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 3: Is claiming. They're saying, oh, well, he committed treason by 370 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 3: talking to the Iranians. Well, if that's treason, then you're 371 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 3: going to have to lock up. Basically every reporter who's 372 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 3: ever spoken to the Iranians, including CBS News which had 373 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 3: the Iranian foreign minister, NBC News, which just had the 374 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 3: Iranian foreign minister part of a natural reportage, is actually 375 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 3: reaching out to people who, yes, many times, are America's 376 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 3: enemies or people who are you are at WARWI, Why 377 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 3: do we do it? And why is it actually incumbent 378 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 3: upon us to do so. The reason why is to 379 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 3: give the American people a full picture of what we're 380 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 3: actually doing. Otherwise you only have to rely on Pete 381 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,959 Speaker 3: Hegseeth and General Cain and Donald Trump to tell us 382 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 3: what's actually happening. And as you can all see in 383 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 3: front of you in the information age, the biggest threat 384 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 3: to their narrative is the truth and an alternate perspectives, 385 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 3: and especially in an already unpopular war. So no, per Tucker, 386 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 3: he may not be getting criminally charged. But the fact is, 387 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 3: by the way, this has not been denied by the CIA, 388 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 3: The administration has not denied any of this. They've had 389 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 3: more than twenty four hours now at this point. 390 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: To do so. 391 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 3: If it was BS, I think they would say so. 392 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 3: And I think this is really dangerous and it also highlights, 393 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 3: especially if you're people like us, we're reaching out to 394 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 3: foreign officials all the time. Iran, if you're listening, I'll 395 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 3: talk to you anytime. But it does demonstrate that we 396 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 3: are under not only surveillance from our own government, but 397 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 3: possible criminal and legal liability in this case, specifically for 398 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 3: just trying to inform the American people. They try to 399 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 3: do this under WikiLeaks. Remember this is a bipartisan thing 400 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 3: that we've seen in the past. This is why it's 401 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 3: so dangerous to get into these types of wars in 402 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 3: the first place. 403 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is why, you know, we've always been 404 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 2: against these conversations about like, oh, you platform this person 405 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 2: or you platform that person, because this is where it 406 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 2: ends up, like, oh, how dare you speak to these 407 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 2: you know, adversarial countries. And it's meant to make such 408 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 2: reporting scandalous and in the Trump administration's case, make it 409 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 2: outright apparently illegal. Let's put you two up on the screen, 410 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 2: because there was some elaborate you know, trying to concoct 411 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 2: after the fact, for d chess that Trump was engaged 412 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 2: in here allegedly. So this person says, and this got 413 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 2: by the way, tons of retweets and views and everyone 414 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 2: like really bought into this. This person says, this photo 415 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 2: of Tuck in the Oval office with Trump is hilarious. 416 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 2: In hindsight, Trump knew Tucker was talking to Iran, so 417 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 2: he invites him the Oval office before the strike, knowing 418 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 2: Tucker will run straight back and relay it. Aroan sees 419 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 2: this photo, thinks Tucker has Trump's ear, thinks Trump is bluffing. Meanwhile, 420 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 2: Trump's sitting there smiling because he wanted them to believe it. 421 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 2: Tucker's ego sells the deception, Camani buys it, and just 422 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 2: like that, Tucker unknowingly helps take out the supreme leader 423 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 2: and now America's biggest trader, meaning Tucker Carlson maybe heading 424 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 2: to prison. Perfectly played. Now, let me just ask you 425 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 2: a question. Has anything about this war made you think 426 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 2: that Trump is playing some sort of eight D chess 427 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 2: and elaborately planning out these intricate, brilliant moves, etc. No, 428 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 2: it has maybe been the dumbest war in all of 429 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 2: human history. This man launched a war in the Middle 430 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 2: East and did not think through what it would do. 431 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 2: You for oil prices or the strait of horn mows. 432 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 2: It is literally the most basic thing of all time. 433 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 2: And yet do you think this was all some elaborate, 434 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 2: brilliant chess master style plot. I mean, it's just utterly 435 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: absurd on its face. 436 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is zionis fan fiction. Let's call it for 437 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:16,239 Speaker 1: what it is. 438 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 3: Also, Reporter Mark Caputo over at Axios he has a view, 439 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 3: by the way, even he is like, guys, this is 440 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 3: total bullshit. He's like, I spoke to people in the 441 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,959 Speaker 3: White House. He's like, none of this happened. They had 442 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 3: a meeting. Tucker said, please don't strike Iran, and the 443 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 3: President explained various different things as to why he was 444 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 3: either you know, thinking he was weighing in that direction, 445 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 3: and then the meeting ended. 446 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: That's how it went. 447 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: There was no some grand plan that they want to 448 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 3: describe here. I mean, what they really want is to 449 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 3: see their enemies in prison. 450 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: That's it. 451 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 3: They want to see their political enemies. They want the 452 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 3: state weaponized against them. They're jinting up these same like 453 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 3: jingoistic terms in which we're not supposed to be able 454 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 3: to talk or consider the viewpoint of the people we 455 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 3: are literally in a war with. And that may help 456 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 3: us onunderstand exactly what we're doing, what the terms are, 457 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 3: and what some of the things being laid out by 458 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 3: the Pentagon, whether they're true or not. That's vitally important 459 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 3: in a time of war. When you lose it, you 460 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 3: lose the ability to process information itself. And so I 461 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 3: think the fact that CIA is engaging in this type 462 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 3: of activity is already a deep threat, you know, to 463 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 3: the United States. By the way, they're not even supposed 464 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 3: to be spying on US citizens, not that anybody even 465 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 3: cares at this point, right in the entire til. 466 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 2: Well, and if he isn't, and this is where so 467 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 2: many of the Patriot Act abuses just became come so clear, 468 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 2: because part of what that enabled them to do is, oh, 469 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 2: if you're talking to someone we deem an enemy or 470 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 2: a terrorist, then we're allowed to sweep up your communications. 471 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 2: And so that could be what's going on here. I mean, 472 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 2: I will say, like in the same Mark Computer report, 473 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 2: he says, this isn't happening in terms of spying. He says, 474 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 2: this isn't happening in terms of the criminal charges. I 475 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 2: don't know. So those are the denials coming from the government. 476 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,239 Speaker 2: I don't know what's really going on here, but you 477 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 2: know the fact of the possibility of this, and I 478 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 2: don't really see a self interested reason why Tucker would 479 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: lie about this. If anything, it puts him in a 480 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 2: weird spot because, frankly, listen, when I look at this, 481 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,479 Speaker 2: and when I look at Tucker's overall commentary on the 482 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 2: Iran war, to which he is very opposed, there's one 483 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,959 Speaker 2: word that very rarely comes out of his mouth and 484 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 2: that is Trump, and it's like he wants to put 485 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 2: this all on It's all Israe's Israel drivers ins Israel's war, 486 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 2: and it's like, there is no doubt that Israel had 487 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 2: an interest in the sward, that they were pushing for this, 488 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 2: et cetera. We talk about it ad nauseum on this show. 489 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 2: Here is also no doubt that Donald Trump also wanted 490 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 2: this war. The reasons are a bit mysterious, right, I 491 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 2: think we've the best we can come up with. Is 492 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 2: high on his own supply after Venezuela thought the Twelve 493 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 2: Day War went great. You know, loves the spectacle of 494 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 2: all the military grandeur, loves to see things blow up 495 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 2: on TV and have that kind of power in his hands. 496 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 2: As thinking about his legacy, et cetera. Perhaps there's an 497 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 2: Epstein Files connection as well. I certainly don't rule that out. 498 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, the President of 499 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 2: the United States surrounded himself with a bunch of sycophants 500 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 2: who were too afraid to tell him the truth, got 501 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 2: himself bought in, hopped up on Lindsey Graham and Israeli propaganda, 502 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: and decided to launch this war. And it is in 503 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 2: his hands. It is his fault. And I think it 504 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 2: is frankly pathetic at this point that Tucker can't say that. Clearly, 505 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 2: I was sympathetic to the argument leading up to this 506 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 2: that always trying to maintain access and he wants to 507 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 2: be able to have influence on the inside. Okay, you 508 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 2: tried and you failed. That's where we are now. So 509 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: why are we still pursuing the strategy? And so when 510 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 2: you put on a video in Tucker's case, which again 511 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 2: why I don't think this is self interested because it 512 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 2: makes him look kind of bad. You put out this 513 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 2: video claiming that Trump's CIA is spying on you, and 514 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 2: Trump's DOJ is planning on filing criminal charges against you, 515 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 2: and you can't say anything about the President of the 516 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 2: United States who is leading this institutions. I mean, I 517 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 2: just think it's like, come on, man, why are you 518 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 2: going to actually be real about the man that you 519 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 2: supported three times to be in the Oval office. You 520 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 2: were sitting there next to him at the RNC, you 521 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 2: push for him. When are you going to have a 522 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 2: moment say, you know what, I was wrong about this guy. 523 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 2: I fucked up, Like there is you know, I have 524 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 2: some small culpability for pushing this guy into the Oval 525 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 2: office multiple times? When is that going to come? Because 526 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 2: you know, to me, it seems like he's hiding the ball, 527 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 2: trying to avoid culpability for this president and by extensions, 528 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 2: for himself. 529 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 3: I think that they are playing a very difficult game. 530 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 3: They look at it exactly like you said, as trying 531 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 3: to maintain some sort of influence with the White House 532 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 3: and trying to push things in that direction. But and 533 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 3: here's here's actually what I've learned. So do we have 534 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 3: the Mark Levin thing? Can we put that up there 535 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 3: on the screen. So Donald Trump issues this long screed 536 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 3: about Mark Levin about how he's the greatest, about how 537 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 3: he's real maga, about how Megan Kelly is bad. You're 538 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 3: basically the subtacks for calling him micro penis. 539 00:26:59,160 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: Mark. 540 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 3: What do you learn from that is that Mark Levin 541 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 3: had a view. Mark Levin hated Donald Trump. He literally 542 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 3: said he would never vote for him in twenty sixteen. 543 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 3: I believe he supported Ron DeSantis in the twenty twenty 544 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 3: four primary. When Donald Trump does things that Mark Levin likes, 545 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 3: he goshes and gives him praise. When he does things 546 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 3: that he doesn't like, he actually puts out tweets and 547 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 3: campaigns against it and calls and all that. What you 548 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 3: learn from that is that people who are actually critical, 549 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 3: let's say, if they're part of the coalition or not, 550 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 3: when they have a view and they force that view 551 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 3: very very very forcefully, they win the anti war right, 552 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 3: let's say, specifically in the lead up to Midnight Hammer 553 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 3: and also here with the strikes with Iran. Everything has 554 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 3: to be couched in, Oh, mister President, you're so great, 555 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 3: you're my friend, etc. 556 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: Right, that's what they do. 557 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 3: And then when they do something that you don't like, 558 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 3: then if you're not willing to hit them in the 559 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 3: way that Mark Levin and many of the other critics hit, 560 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 3: then they view you as somebody who's always going to 561 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 3: be part of that coalition. And I've learned this lesson, 562 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 3: I think very I mean really during mid Night Hammer 563 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 3: and ongoing forward. I do think that a breaking point, 564 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 3: if you will, will I mean at a certain point 565 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 3: has to come soon. We're already seeing it with a 566 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 3: lot of the maga ogs, I saw Milo a few others. 567 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 3: They're like, it's over the people who are there literally 568 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 3: from twenty fifteen, long before many others were. I don't 569 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 3: know yet whether that's indicative of anything, but at the 570 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 3: end of the day, if you're not willing to withdraw 571 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,479 Speaker 3: your vote or withdraw your support, withdraw and actually deeply 572 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 3: criticize somebody, I don't think that you have a lot 573 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 3: of power in Washington. And I've seen that now play 574 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 3: out over and over again with a lot of these 575 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 3: neo cons who hated Donald Trump, and now that he 576 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 3: does the stuff that they want, they're his greatest champion, right. 577 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 3: I mean, he's like the Savior literally in the Messiah 578 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 3: in the way that they all talk about him. But 579 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 3: they were absolutely willing to trash him whenever he didn't 580 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 3: do what they want him to do. And I've learned 581 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 3: that especially over the years, like if you really want 582 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 3: sources in Washington, you need to criticize them, because then 583 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 3: they'll call you and be like, no, you're wrong. 584 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying. 585 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 3: If you just write fluff pieces for them, they're like, oh, 586 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 3: this person's a joke. You know, we could just feed 587 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 3: him anything. And I've seen it play out unfortunately now. 588 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great point. It's a great point. I mean, 589 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 2: I think of the same thing with like you know, 590 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 2: the AOC on the on the left, if you want 591 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 2: to take that perspective, like you know, constantly trying to 592 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 2: be good with leadership and not criticize too hard. And 593 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 2: it's like because of that, it really diminished her power. 594 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 2: It was not a strategy that was effective. So to 595 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 2: the extent that your goal year is to maintain influence 596 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 2: and access. First of all, to my point, like you 597 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 2: failed that access did not get you anywhere we are 598 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 2: in this war now. And if that is not a 599 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 2: principled redline for you, I don't know what it is. 600 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 2: What is? So what are you still maintaining your access 601 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 2: for at this point? Second of all, it does not 602 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 2: actually confer you power, right, You've had some. I mean 603 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 2: Marco Rubio himself ran against Trump in twenty sixteen. The 604 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 2: whole little Marco thing, I mean just absolutely vitriolic, rheteric, 605 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 2: Ted Cruz same thing, vitriolic, reli rhetoric back and forth 606 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 2: between them. But Trump, you know, if you suck back 607 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,479 Speaker 2: up to him and them as flowers for doing what 608 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 2: you want, later on he's going to let you back 609 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 2: in the circle. I think there's another concern here though, too, 610 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: you know, with Tucker specifically, who's a podcast or an 611 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 2: influencer and also may have presidential ambitions. I don't know. 612 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: He floated that recently how he'd love to get on 613 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 2: his presidential debate stage versus Ted Cruz. You're walking a 614 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: tricky line with the Trump base because it is a 615 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 2: cult and the one thing they care about. And this 616 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 2: is what Ron DeSantis, you know, crashed into the rocks 617 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 2: of where do you stand on the issue of Donald Trump? 618 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: And so you can criticize Kushner, you can criticize the advisors, 619 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 2: you can criticize the Israelis, but there is a concern 620 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 2: that if you directly criticize Donald Trump the way that 621 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 2: like a Marjorie Taylor Green does or Thomas Massey does, 622 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 2: that you are going to be, you know, cast out permanently, 623 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 2: and you're going to be a Liz Cheney type figure, 624 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: going to be persona non grata, And so you're going 625 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 2: to lose that base of support. Because when Trump says 626 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 2: I am Magat, everything I say is what Maga is 627 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 2: and that's the end of the story. He is correct 628 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 2: about that. So I think that's the other part of 629 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,959 Speaker 2: the calculation that is going on here. But again, like 630 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,479 Speaker 2: if you're saying the CIA is spying on you and 631 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 2: the doo jib like they're trying to throw you in 632 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 2: prison and you can't man up and like name the 633 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 2: person who is the head of those agencies and who 634 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 2: they are all taking marching orders from, because he's installed 635 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 2: all of his loyalists. I just think it's I just 636 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 2: think it looks pathetic. 637 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 3: Frankly, I think I think the turn that you want 638 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 3: me becoming sooner than you think, Or I could be wrong. 639 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: I really don't know. Maybe they'll be Like David Sachs, 640 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: So let's talk about sas. 641 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 2: So some extraordinary comments here made by David Zachs, who 642 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 2: of course is the White House cryptosar, so he is 643 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 2: in the Trump administration even as he continues to host 644 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 2: his All In podcast, which is like sort of the 645 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 2: hub of tech bro discussion, and he made some pretty 646 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 2: extraordinary comments about his concerns regarding the Iran war, including 647 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 2: the possibility that he could see Israel launching a nuclear weapon, 648 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 2: which is I mean extraordinary, even just the admission that 649 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 2: Israel has nuclear weapons coming from an administration official. Let's 650 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 2: go and take a listen to that. 651 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 7: You also have to I think consider the impacts on Israel. 652 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 7: I mean, it's hard to know exactly how much damage 653 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 7: Israel is taking right now there's a social media blackout, 654 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 7: but what you're starting to hear trickle out is that 655 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 7: Israel is getting hit harder than they've ever been hit 656 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 7: before in their history. And we're only two weeks into this. 657 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 7: If this war continues for weeks or months, then Israel 658 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 7: could just be destroyed, and there are very large parts 659 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 7: of it now. I think Israel is a harder target 660 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 7: than the Golf States. Their infrastructure is more hardened. Also, 661 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 7: they're further away. The Gold States are vulnerable to drones 662 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 7: and shot range missiles, whereas Israel is mainly vulnerable to 663 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 7: long range missiles. Nonetheless, at some point their air defenses 664 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 7: could become exhausted if it hasn't happened already, and Israel 665 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 7: could get seriously destroyed. And then you have to worry 666 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 7: about Israel escalating the war by contemplating using a nuclear weapon, 667 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 7: which would truly be catastrophic. So there's a lot of 668 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 7: scenarios here, a lot of really frightening scenarios about where 669 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 7: escalation could lead. And even though the United States is 670 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 7: a much more powerful country than Iran. They essentially have 671 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 7: a dead man switch over the economic fate of the 672 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 7: Gulf States, and even potentially beyond that. You know the 673 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 7: habitability of some of these countries. So I do tend 674 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 7: to think that this is a good time to declare victory. 675 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 7: I think Brad, you're right that the president has never 676 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 7: said that democracy promotion is one of his objectives. Yes, Jkel. 677 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 7: Obviously everyone would welcome if the people rose up and 678 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 7: chose a new regime, but that's not something that we've said. 679 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 7: We have to accomplish. 680 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 2: Pretty unvarnished comments there at least coming from Trump administration official, 681 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 2: but unfortunately didn't last long. I can put this next 682 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 2: piece up on the screen. Trump put out this true 683 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 2: social that says the US has beaten and completely decimated 684 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 2: her on both militarily, economically, and in every other way. 685 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 2: But the countries of the world that receive oil through 686 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 2: the hormone strait must take care of that passage, and 687 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 2: we will help a lot. The US will also coordinate 688 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 2: with those countries so everything goes quickly, smoothly, and well. 689 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 2: This should have always been a team effort, really, and 690 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 2: now it will be. It will bring the world together 691 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 2: toward Harmony's scurity, an everlasting piece, to which Sachs replies, 692 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 2: this is a smart strategy thanks to President Trump. The 693 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 2: US is energy and dependent. The countries that actually depend 694 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,720 Speaker 2: on Gulf oil should apply pressure to reopen the strait. 695 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 2: So clearly, you know he got some kind of phone 696 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 2: call and trying to get back in the good graces 697 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 2: year of Trump. 698 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, he made the mistake of thinking that you actually 699 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 3: get to say what you want when you work for 700 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 3: the government. I mean, look, every word that he said 701 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 3: is correct, literally every word. 702 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: That's the David Sachs. 703 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 3: I remember I interviewed him here at the desk during 704 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 3: the war in Ukraine. He was always a voice of restraint, 705 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 3: a fan of John Meersheimer, remember, heroically stood up against 706 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 3: the war, against a lot of the Neo konagenda for 707 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 3: the war in Ukraine and war with Iran, by the way, 708 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 3: many years ago. And so this is part of the 709 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 3: problem though, with this entire, with this entire I mean, 710 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 3: it actually relates a lot to the conversation that we 711 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 3: just had about criticism and your ability to voice when 712 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 3: you're within the government and when the government and especially 713 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 3: this administration, demands absolute and total loyalty from everybody who 714 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 3: it works for. I mean, right now, as you and 715 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 3: I are doing this segment about David Sachs, the White 716 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 3: House Press Secretary this happened moments ago, is tweeting out 717 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 3: Ben Shapiro fan essays, being like Ben Shapiro, the White 718 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 3: House pres Secretary is saying. Ben Shapiro says, this is 719 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 3: the most courageous decision of my entire lifetime to go 720 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 3: to strike Iran. That's the tone coming from the White 721 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,760 Speaker 3: House Press Secretary and the President talking about Mark Levin. 722 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 3: So when you have people like this who are more 723 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 3: independent minded or have a different view, who actually work 724 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 3: inside the administration, if you go out on your skis 725 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 3: and let's say, tell the truth, especially a philosophy which 726 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 3: was used to great political effect, I think during the 727 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four campaign, and then they rein it in. 728 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: What does that tell you about the power? 729 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 3: What does that tell you about the information environment too 730 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 3: that they want to put out there. 731 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 1: In terms of who they want to boost. 732 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,720 Speaker 3: They don't want really anybody to acknowledge, not even previously 733 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 3: held beliefs, but even the truth as it actually stands 734 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,479 Speaker 3: in front of us. So it's really crazy and as also, 735 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 3: as I said at the top of the show, I 736 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 3: believe David Sachs is now the first US administration have 737 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 3: official ever to publicly acknowledge Israel's nuclear weapons program, even 738 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 3: though it has been done by Colin Powell, I think 739 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,720 Speaker 3: in the Wikileak's emails when he talked about Israel's nuclear weapons, 740 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 3: but the first time has ever been publicly acknowledged, I 741 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 3: believe by an administration official, which is incredibly ironic considering 742 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 3: that we all know that it's the case. But I mean, yeah, 743 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 3: every word he said was true, but the fact that 744 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 3: you have to be rained in immediately just shows you 745 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 3: what we're dealing with. 746 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 2: I mean, the comments themselves are just worth lingering on 747 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 2: for one more minute. The fact that someone in the 748 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 2: Trumpet minute thinks the Israelis are crazy enough that if 749 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 2: this thing starts to going sideways for them, which in 750 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 2: some ways it already has. I mean, I think they're 751 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 2: in a sense, they're definitely achieving more of their aims 752 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 2: than the US is. This is going better for these 753 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 2: is Raelies than it is for the US. But they're 754 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 2: still dealing with a toll. There's a huge economic toll there. 755 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 2: You know, a significant part of their population is in 756 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,959 Speaker 2: and out of bomb shelters. I'm sure there are plenty 757 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 2: of people will continue to just leave the country because, like, 758 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 2: you know what, this whole safe haven for Jews is 759 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 2: not so safe for me and my family. So they're 760 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 2: you know, they've already had an out migration problem. So 761 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 2: in any case, you know that you have this official 762 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 2: who's like, these people are crazy enough that they would 763 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 2: actually use an OUK. That's a wild, wild admission that 764 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 2: should be terrifying to all of us that that is 765 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 2: even a possibility that is on the table, and that 766 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 2: this president has put the world in a position where 767 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 2: that's a possibility. And by the way, I don't rule 768 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 2: it out for him either, because he's backed into a corner. 769 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 2: You know, it's not going to be just an easy 770 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 2: cake walk, contrary to what he says to reopen the 771 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 2: straight of form. Who's our allies are not excited about 772 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 2: putting their service members and their military equipment at risk 773 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 2: to help us fix the problem that we have created. 774 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 2: The global economy is going to suffer in ways that 775 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 2: could potentially be devastating, and there are no clear paths 776 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 2: to some sort of easy victory. Which is what Trump wants. 777 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 2: So the level of danger that the world is in 778 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:37,839 Speaker 2: right now is truly truly terrifying, and especially when you 779 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 2: hear you know, even though he ultimately walked it back, 780 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 2: we all know the original comments are the ones that 781 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 2: he more accurately believes. To hear that directly from someone 782 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,320 Speaker 2: within the administration is pretty extraordinary. 783 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, and I do think it's important. Also, 784 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,760 Speaker 3: I also think we need to start watching for dissent 785 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 3: and for anybody who's listening, who might still listen, who 786 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 3: is in the administration. 787 00:38:58,840 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: It's time to go. 788 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 3: Time to resign at a certain point, because unless you 789 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 3: want this to be on you forever, if you want 790 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,839 Speaker 3: to be one of these like bush folks who has 791 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 3: to be a dead ender like Ari Fleischer till the 792 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,760 Speaker 3: day you die about how you actually acted with honor. 793 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 3: We're at the point now we know what time it is, 794 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 3: and I think you should do and I think it's 795 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 3: time to go. Especially Look, you know, David, he could 796 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 3: do whatever he wants, is filed rich. 797 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: He's like nearly a billionaire. 798 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 3: Is it really worth it at this point, especially if 799 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 3: you really believed in the anti war agenda? For me, no, 800 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think it's time to go, 801 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 3: especially if you have the means to stand on your 802 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 3: own two feet. So that's just my own two cents. 803 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 3: Thank you guys so much for watching. We appreciate it. 804 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 3: Hope and pray that we survived the tornado. If we do, 805 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 3: we'll see you all tomorrow