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Speaker 1: big news story. So I was grateful for that one.

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Speaker 1: Have fun and uh, you know, I'm rooting for Snow.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you are, but I you know

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Speaker 1: Fred Goodelli is oh you know, yes, you know he is,

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Speaker 1: because there's this sense that if people see Snow, they

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Speaker 1: will stop with their put their remote down and watch.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, but Michelle, fred Fred Goodelli, you know, is

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Speaker 1: one of the great producers in this business. He's in

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Speaker 1: a truck, yes, I know that, So he's not he's

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Speaker 1: rooting for Snow. But he's he doesn't care about those

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Speaker 1: in the elements. He just wants it. These are pretty pictures,

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Speaker 1: you know what? I hear in my ear every time.

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Speaker 1: It's always seventy and perfect inside the truck, and I

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Speaker 1: you know how things I want to say, It's not pretty.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Michelle, have fun. We'll be watching. We appreciate

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Speaker 1: it as always. Thanks Dan Talculator, that's Michelle Tafoya. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure

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Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon

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Speaker 1: eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and

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Speaker 1: you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR

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Speaker 1: or stream us live on the Peacock app. Tony Biselli

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Speaker 1: former Jacksonville Jaguar and maybe we'll live to see the

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Speaker 1: day when he gets into the Hall of Fame. Five

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowls. He's the lead analyst for Thursday Night Football

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Speaker 1: in Westwood One and he does the Jags radio color

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Speaker 1: analyst and part of Westwood Ones the NFL playoff coverage.

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Speaker 1: He's going to be there for the Buccaneers and the Saints.

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Speaker 1: That'll be Sunday night. Tony joins us on the program.

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Speaker 1: How does this go right? For Urban Meyer in Jacksonville, Tony. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's easy, Dan. You know that win games. Winning solves everything.

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Speaker 1: I mean it literally cures every ale of a professional

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Speaker 1: sports team and an athlete. And I think the point

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Speaker 1: is is in your comments earlier, we're dead on the

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Speaker 1: transition is littered from college to the NFL with dead

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Speaker 1: bodies of guys who could not do it. Now, I

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Speaker 1: think what Shad Khan decided was, we need to do

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Speaker 1: something different. This has been a franchise of a last

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Speaker 1: ten years. It has not been relevant outside of twenty

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Speaker 1: seventeen where they made an AFC Championship run. And so

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Speaker 1: I think he wanted somebody who was a proven winner,

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Speaker 1: who was a proven leader and gave them a chance

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Speaker 1: to kind of make a splash day one, but also

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Speaker 1: had instant credibility when he walked in the room. And

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Speaker 1: so listen, he's a leader. He's won everywhere he's ever been.

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Speaker 1: And the one thing I do like about his kind

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Speaker 1: of philosophy, and because I'm a believer of it, it's

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Speaker 1: not about what scheme you run. It's not about Hey,

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Speaker 1: I run the gap or I run the zone, or

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Speaker 1: I blitz I did this. I mean everyone's doing the

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Speaker 1: same thing, you know, with a different variation. It's about

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Speaker 1: getting the right people in the building. And so the

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Speaker 1: question I have is is can you build the right staff,

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Speaker 1: Can you get the right OC, the right DC, the

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Speaker 1: right assistance and then and then what is your player

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Speaker 1: procurement strategy? Because getting guys who fit what you want

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Speaker 1: to do, and I think that's where teams fail and

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Speaker 1: that's where organization in the NFL will really struggle, is

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Speaker 1: you don't have the pieces that fit what you're trying

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Speaker 1: to do. And that'll be interesting to see who he

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Speaker 1: surrounds himself with. But as a leader, Dan, it's unquestionable

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Speaker 1: he's got it done. But also relating to these players,

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Speaker 1: we find that that there is a gap in college

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Speaker 1: you listen to me. In the NFL, it feels like

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Speaker 1: you listen to your players. And maybe I'm overstating it here,

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Speaker 1: but you know what is going to be the biggest

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Speaker 1: difference in the transition of coaching college players to coaching

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Speaker 1: NFL players. Well, the good thing if you're coaching the Jags,

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Speaker 1: it's not much different than college right now. They're so

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Speaker 1: dang young, so it'll probably work. I mean, listen, big

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Speaker 1: difference is you have guys who are in their thirties,

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Speaker 1: have kids, family has been married for a while, and

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Speaker 1: everything else. But I think the one thing is even

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Speaker 1: in college today, Dan, these are millennials, and so the

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Speaker 1: millennials don't want you to tell them what to do

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Speaker 1: and they don't buy into that. You have to be

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Speaker 1: able to build relationships with players. It's whether it's college

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Speaker 1: or pro. I'm a big believer in that. And guys

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Speaker 1: want to know why are you asking him to do something?

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Speaker 1: And I think Urban smart enough. I mean, he's been

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Speaker 1: around college. He understands that you understood recruiting, and I

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Speaker 1: think it's similar in today's player. They want a relationship.

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Speaker 1: They want to know you care about them, and they

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Speaker 1: want to know why you're asking them to do something.

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Speaker 1: So whether you're hard or you're not player coach not

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Speaker 1: a player's coach, both can work and so but really

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Speaker 1: where you get to buy in is one you have

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Speaker 1: credibility day one, but then what you institute leads to success.

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Speaker 1: So ultimately he's gonna have to win football games to

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Speaker 1: get the credibility he wants a long term There was

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Speaker 1: an article in The Orlando Sentinel in early December calling

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Speaker 1: for the Jags to hire you as the general manager.

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Speaker 1: Have you been approached to be the general manager? Dan?

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Speaker 1: My phone never rang once, so that if that gives

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Speaker 1: you any insight on whether I've been after or not

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Speaker 1: even once, not even like an accidental like the wrong call,

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Speaker 1: wrong number, maybe the wrong number, yeah, wrong number. Hey,

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Speaker 1: we're trying to get so no, listen. My role. My

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Speaker 1: role is I do the team. I do the obviously

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Speaker 1: the radio you talked about. I'm ben there since day one,

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Speaker 1: love the organization, want nothing but the success. Happy to

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Speaker 1: give input where I'm asked, But my job isn't to

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Speaker 1: give input. How about offensive line coach? Again? If Urban

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Speaker 1: would love to, I will talk him to anyone about

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Speaker 1: any opportunity. But right now there's no plans and my

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Speaker 1: phone's not ringing, and I'm very satisfied and happy with

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Speaker 1: what I do on a daily basis. If Urban did

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Speaker 1: not have the number one pick, would he be taking

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Speaker 1: this Jacksonville John It's a great question. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: because if you look at it, yes, they have the

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Speaker 1: number one pick. Let's say they would have the number

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Speaker 1: two pick. You're still going to get a really good player.

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Speaker 1: There's you know, give justin fields who's a good player.

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Speaker 1: I think that Zach Wilson is intriguing at a BYU,

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Speaker 1: so you can still get your quarterback. What doesn't change

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Speaker 1: regardless of the draft pick is this team is gonna

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Speaker 1: have over one hundred million dollars of cap space in

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Speaker 1: a year where a lot of teams are gonna be struggling.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of good players out there,

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Speaker 1: go get and so I don't think any nothing changes

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Speaker 1: in that world. And also the other thing, I think

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Speaker 1: one of the reasons Urban came here Dan is he

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Speaker 1: can do something no one's ever done in Jackson moved forward,

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Speaker 1: and he can make it relevant. He can you know,

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Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl. He can be the guy who

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Speaker 1: does it. And Urban's a competitive individual. Um, He's a

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Speaker 1: guy who wants to, you know, make a name and

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Speaker 1: be out there and do something no one else can do.

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Speaker 1: And he has a chance to do that. And with

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars, I think he probably would have still just

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Speaker 1: because there's so many other positives around it. But I

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Speaker 1: think that probably maybe that was the tipping point. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just wonder long term, you know that that would

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Speaker 1: be a question. That's that's my question with Urban. I

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Speaker 1: don't think anybody is going to critique his credentials, but

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Speaker 1: just his mental and physical health and being able to

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Speaker 1: do this. This is a grind, man. This is a college.

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Speaker 1: Is one thing pros This is day and night grind.

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Speaker 1: Then I don't know, Yeah, I'll say this, it's a college.

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Speaker 1: It's you know the first two places that Bowling Green

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Speaker 1: and you taught he had to build that. He's competing.

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Speaker 1: He didn't have the best players. I mean, he proved

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Speaker 1: that he can do it. Florida State in Ohio. I mean,

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Speaker 1: excuse me, Florida in Ohio State. He woke up day

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Speaker 1: one with a team that was better than nine, eight

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Speaker 1: to ten teams that were on a schedule. I mean

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Speaker 1: he was just better. They drave, the recruited better and

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Speaker 1: everything else. That's not the case in the NFL. And

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Speaker 1: so it is that grind. And so people ask me

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Speaker 1: what I think about it. I said all the things

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Speaker 1: I said positive a second ago. Here's my question, and

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Speaker 1: I'll maybe articulated similar to what you said, maybe a

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Speaker 1: little different is he's never done at the NFL, so

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Speaker 1: we know about that. There's history who can look at

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Speaker 1: and kind of make our judgment. The health is real.

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Speaker 1: This is an individual at two different spots because of

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Speaker 1: the grind and what went on at Florida in Ohio

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Speaker 1: state that had to step away for health reasons. And

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Speaker 1: I hate it for him because no one wants to

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Speaker 1: have those things, and so you worry, and I think

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Speaker 1: as an owner, and you look back and I think

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Speaker 1: when you make that decision, you have to do your

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Speaker 1: homework and say, Okay, how are you physically, what does

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Speaker 1: it look like? How do you manage that? Because you're

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Speaker 1: making the hire for the long term and you want

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Speaker 1: him to build something that is sustainable. So that's something

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Speaker 1: to watch. I know every Jag fan will probably have

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Speaker 1: be praying for him and making sure that help doesn't

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Speaker 1: become an issue. But it's hard to avoid because the

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Speaker 1: mental grind and fatigue, and especially when you're wired like

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Speaker 1: urban Meyer. From what I've been told. I've never met him,

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Speaker 1: but I've been told he's a competitive dude and winning

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Speaker 1: is the only option. And in the NFL, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: lose some games, so that would be something to watch.

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Speaker 1: But hopefully, if you're a Jags fan, hopefully you don't

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Speaker 1: have to deal with it very much, so that means

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Speaker 1: you're winning a lot of football games. Tony Biselli joining us.

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Speaker 1: He's the color analyst for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Also works

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Speaker 1: for Westwood One, and of course former Jags offensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of which, the first thing I would do is

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Speaker 1: not repeat the mistake that the Colts did with Andrew Luck.

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Speaker 1: I would make sure I had a really good offensive

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Speaker 1: line because the Colts did it in the reverse order,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, they wake up one

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Speaker 1: day and they go, wait, Andrew Luck doesn't want to

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Speaker 1: play anymore. No, he got so banged up through those

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Speaker 1: first couple of years. Now they have a great offensive line.

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Speaker 1: That's what I hope that the Jags investing. If you've

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Speaker 1: got Trevor Lawrence, I can't have one hundred million dollars

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Speaker 1: quarterback and I've got you know, pennies on the dollar

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Speaker 1: at the offensive line positions here. Tone, Yeah, I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, my formula to build a football team

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Speaker 1: is not that complicated. You gotta have a quarterback. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's no doubt about that. And you're hoping Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 1: is that guy. After that Dan, you better protect the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: If you can't control the line of scrimmage by running

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Speaker 1: it when you have to and protecting the quarterback. I

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Speaker 1: you're gonna struggle, so you have to invest there. For

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars, good news is they've got three guys in

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Speaker 1: the interior pretty good. Norwell is a good player. Missed

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Speaker 1: a couple of games because injuries, but last three years

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Speaker 1: he's played good football. Aj Can, the right guard, had

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Speaker 1: to resigned last year at his best year of football

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Speaker 1: was really good. Brandon Linder's upper echelon center where they

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Speaker 1: need to improve and they need to do a little bit.

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Speaker 1: We're at the tackle positions. Jowan Taylor is a second

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Speaker 1: year player out of Florida, has high potential going to

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Speaker 1: be your right tackle next year. The questions at left tackle.

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Speaker 1: Cam Robinson, Alabama, four year guy, he's a free agent.

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Speaker 1: Do you sign him? He was better this year, it

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Speaker 1: needs to improve. Do you sign him and make him

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Speaker 1: your left tackle? Or do you go draft or go

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Speaker 1: in free agency and say, hey, let's go get a

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Speaker 1: rental out of Trent Williams who's a free agent out

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Speaker 1: of San Francisco, and maybe ask pay him more money

641
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Speaker 1: than anyone else to get him come in so you

642
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: are dead on though. The number one job of the

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Speaker 1: GM and Urban Meyer, I think especially early, is if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna draft Trevor Lawrence, surround him with people, starting

645
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Speaker 1: with the offensive line where he can have success. You

646
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Speaker 1: were there when the Browns beat the Steelers, and a

647
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: lot of times you can tell before a game when

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Speaker 1: teams walk on the field like there's confidence there. The

649
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,719
Speaker 1: first time I ever saw it was when the Raiders

650
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Speaker 1: beat the Redskins in the Super Bowl, when Marcus Allen

651
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: had that unbelievable run, Like, the Raiders came on the field,

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Speaker 1: and if I could have put my house up, if

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Speaker 1: I had a house, I would have bet the Raiders

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Speaker 1: that night. I don't know if you noticed anything different

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Speaker 1: with it felt like, and I've said this before, my

656
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: audience is tired of hearing about it. Cleveland knew their

657
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: identity going into that game and the Steelers did not.

658
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've sensed that at all, But

659
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: the Browns looked like a different team than earlier in

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00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: the year against Pittsburgh. Blink. Yeah, it's so hard Dan

661
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: in this COVID is to get a real sense. Number One,

662
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: you can't go down the field and spend time with

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Speaker 1: the teams and get a feel and get the emotion

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Speaker 1: and kind of have conversations too. There's no fans, and

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00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: so it's almost it's a very sterile environment. I mean,

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Speaker 1: thinking how different that game would have been if you

667
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: had a packed house at Hines Field when the place

668
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Speaker 1: is going crazy. And I think also you probably got

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Speaker 1: that feeling because right when it started, boy snap over

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Speaker 1: the head and the next thing, you know, this thing's

671
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: out of control. So and there was a desperation on

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00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: the Cleveland sideline like hey, chip on the shoulder, we

673
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: have something to prove. And it almost got the feeling

674
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Speaker 1: like Pittsburgh's like we always beat the Browns. You know

675
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: it's in pitts Burg. We never lose to them. So

676
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: what's going to change this year? What you got going

677
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: on there? My computer's going crazy and trying to throw

678
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: it off. You know what? It could be Urban Meyer

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00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: asking you to be oh no, okay, all right, Dan,

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00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: I'll text you if I okay, I'll let you. I

681
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Would you rather pass block for Brady or

682
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: breeze Tom Brady? Because I think Tom Brady is one

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Speaker 1: of the best um pocket quarterbacks. I've ever seen his

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00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: movement in the pocket buying time. And he's a tackles

685
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: best friend because he always steps up. He's always working

686
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Speaker 1: up in the prop pocket, meaning it helps you with

687
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: your angles and in your ability to protect them. Breeze

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00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 1: is good too. I mean, they're both fabulous in the pocket.

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Speaker 1: You don't play this long if you can't operate from

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Speaker 1: the pocket. But if you if I have to choose one, uh,

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Speaker 1: it's Tom Brady. Plus I'm six seven, he's sixty four.

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Speaker 1: Probably easier for him to see over the top of me.

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Speaker 1: This game will come down to what un then the

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Speaker 1: can the Buccaneers run the ball um You look at

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00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: the thirty eight three game, they went they're past happy

696
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: Byron left Worts. I don't think he was his best game.

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00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: He called they got away from it and over thirty

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Speaker 1: five percent of the time the Saints were pressure and

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00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 1: Tom Brady or they're hitting them and they had no rhythm.

700
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: You gotta get Leonard Fournette, you gotta get Ronald Jones.

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00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: They don't have to be you know, they don't have

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Speaker 1: to be the Tennessee Titans with Derek Cannery to the

703
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens running the ball, but they gotta, you know,

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Speaker 1: they at least have to threaten the Saints defense to

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Speaker 1: give Brady time to operate and to throw the ball around.

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Speaker 1: Good to talk to you as always, Tony, Thanks for

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Speaker 1: joining us have fun on Sunday Night. Thanks Dan TALKU

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Speaker 1: sim It's Tony Biselli does the color for radio on

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Speaker 1: Jags Radio Network now be on Westwood One their NFL

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Speaker 1: playoff coverage. He's got Buckaneers Saints on Sunday Night. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure

712
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine to noon

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Speaker 1: Find your local station for The Dan Patrick Show at

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Speaker 1: bring in Michael Wilbon. Pardon the interruption, and of course

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Speaker 1: we're trying to figure this out. Mike, and I thought

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Speaker 1: I mentioned at the beginning of the show that I

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Speaker 1: thought this was COVID related, but I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that's the sole reason why Kyrie Irving checked out from

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Speaker 1: the nets like he checked out and then was involved

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Speaker 1: in COVID. I don't know why he checked out to

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Speaker 1: begin with. So what do you think we're looking at

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Speaker 1: here with Kyrie and coming back a big fat mess.

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Speaker 1: That's what we're looking at and is more than COVID related.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you hear all kinds of stuff, Dan, I

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00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: know you have quite the grape vine, as do I.

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Speaker 1: We hear all kinds of stuff as to why Kyrie's

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Speaker 1: gone and where his head was, he didn't feel like playing,

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00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: blah blah, blah, blah blah. And the bottom line is

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Speaker 1: you're talking about now one of the least dependable players

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Speaker 1: in the league, certainly certainly one of the least dependable

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00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: great talents in the league. And Harden now appears on

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Speaker 1: that list as well, which is an interesting thing for

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Speaker 1: Brooklyn Nets. And the reason that the most people can't

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Speaker 1: wait to see them is not just because they've got

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Speaker 1: this apparent super team, but they got a super mess

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Speaker 1: on their hands with a first coach, future Hall of famer.

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Speaker 1: You know, I love Steve Nash and Mike D'Antoni, who

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Speaker 1: knows who knows where they can get their arms around this,

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Speaker 1: and most importantly Kevin Durant because this all falls on

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00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant now as well, a guy who Kevin Durant

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00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: has proven he'll play if there's a threat that he

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Speaker 1: winds up leaving the court with one leg. Kevin Durant

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Speaker 1: plays on blacktop of the summer, he plays on hardwood

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Speaker 1: all winter. He just plays. And he's now got two

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Speaker 1: dudes running with him who aren't committed to playing. There

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Speaker 1: was conversation yesterday. We had it here when we got

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Speaker 1: through with the show, the best threesome that we've ever

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Speaker 1: seen on the basketball court. And I know it's we

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00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: were We've got the end result to back up when

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Speaker 1: we say, hey, Rodman and Pippen and Jordan or whoever

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Speaker 1: it might be, with your big ray Allen, Uh, Pierce

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00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 1: and Uh and KG or bosh Men Lebron and Wade,

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00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: do you have a best big three of all time?

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Speaker 1: Maybe what was called the original? It wasn't the original,

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00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: but you know, Bird Parish McHale is still pretty damn good. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: And and and the thing is that was talking about

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Speaker 1: just the front line is you know Danny didn't even

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Speaker 1: include you know, Dennis Johnson for crying out louder or

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Speaker 1: Danny Ainge two great players as well. Um, I still

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Speaker 1: look at those and you know, I'm not well, I

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Speaker 1: am old enough as a as a young kid to

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Speaker 1: have seen West and Baylor. Now they didn't win when

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Speaker 1: Baylor was there because when they won, Baylor hit the

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Speaker 1: knee injury and Will West and Baylor my god. Um,

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Speaker 1: so I'm going back, Yeah, I'm going back. Um. Certainly,

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Speaker 1: certainly Lebron, Dwayne, Wayne and Chris Bosh won two, but

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Speaker 1: that's not quite as many as you mentioned Jordan Pippen

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Speaker 1: and Rodman or Jordan Pippen and Grant or actually Coach.

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Speaker 1: I get chided by, yeah, coo, Coach is a fourth

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Speaker 1: in there. I mean, so, yeah, it's not gonna be.

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna be as contemporary as the kiddies. Wont

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Speaker 1: you know it's not gonna be. It's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: what they would come up with. It's gonna be something

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Speaker 1: as forty years old. But I would come up with

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Speaker 1: Steph Curry, with k D and Clay Okay like there,

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Speaker 1: and then I throw in Draymond. So if I say,

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Speaker 1: you can throw in your fourth and and you want

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Speaker 1: to put in Coup coach with Rodman, Pippen and Jordan

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Speaker 1: you know, then that's kind of fun. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what's going to happen in Brooklyn. I know that we

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Speaker 1: look at the individual challenge, but this isn't about individual talents.

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Speaker 1: It's the individual tallenge meshing together to make it a

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Speaker 1: team talent. And that's where I have a big question mark.

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Speaker 1: Here are there more concerns on the quarter off the

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Speaker 1: court in your opinion? With the Nets? Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have sent off the court until this week.

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Speaker 1: And you know when you listen to I listened to

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Speaker 1: to Boogie Cousins the other night and listen to John Walt,

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Speaker 1: I mean they're just throwing They're like, what are we

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Speaker 1: talking about? We had we had a team here that

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Speaker 1: had a big anything, but they could have been a

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Speaker 1: contender if James Harden was interested and he wasn't. So

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00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: now you got off the court because there's although if

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Speaker 1: everybody's where he wants to be. But then if everybody's

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Speaker 1: where he wants to be, what the hell is going

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Speaker 1: out with Carrie Irving? M I still think on the court.

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Speaker 1: You know I had before the season, I was watching

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Speaker 1: the preseason games, in the first couple of regular season

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Speaker 1: games then and Kyrie Irving, you reminded, and he's out

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Speaker 1: there and engaged. There is just no better ball Haller.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's no better ballhill than necessarily, I'll still

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Speaker 1: take Isaiah Thomas. But I mean we're talking, you know,

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Speaker 1: we're splitting the finest hairs now right. But the averages

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Speaker 1: his career I got. My son is a Kyrie Irving devotee,

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00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: just winds up leading to screaming matches every night at

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Speaker 1: our house. And I'm Penny average more than five assists

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Speaker 1: a game. How can you be a wizard with the

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Speaker 1: ball and only average five assists a game? One night,

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Speaker 1: I made him take out go to basketballs dot com

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Speaker 1: almost head take out the basketball and Cyclopedia, dating me further,

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Speaker 1: but I made him go to the site and read

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Speaker 1: aloud John Stockton's assist totals every year and some years,

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Speaker 1: as you know, they were like twelve and thirteen and

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Speaker 1: Kyrie can't get six. And so my challenge was, if

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Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving, and this is my under if he's engaged

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Speaker 1: enough to sort of average six point two assists a game,

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Speaker 1: which is half of magic in Stockton in a great year,

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Speaker 1: If he's half that interested in finding his teammates. Yeah, Brooklyn,

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Speaker 1: they're loaded. They can they can do this. But now, man,

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Speaker 1: I mean, so what's his level of engagement versus selfishness?

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00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: And usually that doesn't work out well that ratio. I

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Speaker 1: think they can probably become interested enough to play with

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Speaker 1: each other because this is what they want it. But now,

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna have everybody gun informed. Do they have

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Speaker 1: that constitution? Kevin Durant does Kevin Durant has that? Do

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Speaker 1: the other two have it? And I'm thinking no, they don't.

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Speaker 1: He's Michael Wilbon pardon the interruption, co host. The person

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Speaker 1: player who has the most pressure on them this football

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Speaker 1: weekend is who oo football Weekend? Man? I gotta shift

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Speaker 1: years and go back to that. Um well, I don't,

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Speaker 1: unlike a lot of people in this industry talk about this,

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Speaker 1: I don't think the goat has any pressure. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if he loses, so what does he like give back

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Speaker 1: the trophy? He's the goat to somebody else? Nub So

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Speaker 1: Brady has I mean, you know it's relative to the others.

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Speaker 1: Brady has none, Breeze has none. I mean Rogers a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Because people think that Green Bay should have

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00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 1: won more than one, right, and so I don't know

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Speaker 1: that there's anybody you know, maybe well Jackson, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know he's won, he's won a playoff game now,

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Speaker 1: but I think he's ahead of Josh Allen and Buffalo

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Speaker 1: in terms of what people are expecting. And I guess

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Speaker 1: I'm defining it there for Dan on what people are

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Speaker 1: expecting out of these playoff teams and the biggest players

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Speaker 1: on the teams. Were we being fair though to the

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson situation where he bowed out early in the

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Speaker 1: playoffs two previous years, but he just turned twenty four

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Speaker 1: he finally won a playoff game, and then people like

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Speaker 1: he finally won a playoff game, like he's twenty four

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Speaker 1: two years? Yeah, yeah, I would, Yeah, I don't think

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Speaker 1: it was. You know, we rushed to crazy brushes to

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Speaker 1: judgment now you know he's for his career. Were okay,

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Speaker 1: he's home for two I mean, you know, I I

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Speaker 1: I now I'm saying pressure for a different reason. He

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Speaker 1: because this conversation has taken place and we have unfairly rushed.

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Speaker 1: Now he's there, you know, he's sitting there now, and

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Speaker 1: you're like Okay, who who do you favorite to win

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Speaker 1: this game? And if if you're playing favorites, I know

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Speaker 1: Buffalo's gotta be. I don't look, but Buffalo's gotta be.

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Speaker 1: What a three to four, two to three point favorite

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Speaker 1: at home? Is that what it is? Then? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I you know, does Josh Allen have extra yet? No,

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Speaker 1: but he will if he doesn't win this home game.

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Speaker 1: We'll come in the next season saying, oh Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: he hadn't gotten too a title game yet, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I certainly don't think it's Kansas although you know,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting to me that everybody rushed to declare than

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Speaker 1: the greatest team of all time after one one. I'm

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Speaker 1: down with that, But I don't think Kansas City. I

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Speaker 1: don't think there's anyway, and I don't think Cleveland has

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Speaker 1: just not even that much pressure given what they've gone through,

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Speaker 1: given how they've broke through. So I guess I guess

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing Lamar Jackson, which goes against everything. Uh. Well,

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Speaker 1: we could have talked about the Bears, Mike, so I

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Speaker 1: spared you that. Oh please, thank you you. I hopefully

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Speaker 1: you still like me enough to spare me Bears conferences

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Speaker 1: can't because they're so pathetic. I can't. I can't do

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Speaker 1: then too. Thank you, Mike, it's always great to see you,

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Speaker 1: and uh, thanks for joining us. Have a great weekend, Dann.

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Speaker 1: You do the same man, appreciate you have. That's Michael Wilbon,

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