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Speaker 1: If you want Colts talk all year long, You're in

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Speaker 1: the right place. This is the Official Colts podcast, giving

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Speaker 1: is the Colts Official Podcast. I'm Jeffrey Gorman here in

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Speaker 1: the Coult Radio studios. I'm with mate Matt Taylor. Voice

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Speaker 1: of the Colt. JJ Stankovitz is here from Colts dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Senior writer, who I appreciate our friends at Wynn Bett

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Speaker 1: behind this show. I want you to be behind this

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Speaker 1: show too. It's a tough one though. It's a tough one.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about a thirty eight ten loss in New

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Speaker 1: It's like I said, JJ Stankovitz, we got a little

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Speaker 1: who said It coming up. That'll be fun and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna give you my random thought of the week. But

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Speaker 1: big picture now, guys, come in whenever you want. We're

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Speaker 1: four eleven and one. Following the loss of the Giants,

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Speaker 1: they clinched a playoff berth first time since twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 1: We saw the celebrations, we saw the on field celebrations.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get into Coats. Lost by twenty eight points

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Speaker 1: or fourth loss this season by at least twenty three maytay,

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Speaker 1: We'll go with you. First, you were there, you were

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Speaker 1: watching this Rick Venturi like the matchup early in the

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Speaker 1: he did. I mean he accounted for a buck seventy

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Speaker 1: As you said, I mean, what are the Colts need

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Speaker 1: On Sunday, JJ, you were out there in New York,

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Speaker 1: so that that's the first thing. The second thing is

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Speaker 1: now all right, this is a hard reset for this

426
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Speaker 1: franchise with the coaching staff. What direction are you going

427
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Speaker 1: to go? Is Jeff Saturday going to be the head coach?

428
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Speaker 1: What kind of staff does he bring in? Do you

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Speaker 1: hire a an established head coach who's been in the NFL,

430
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Speaker 1: who's been at the college ranks, whatever it may be.

431
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Speaker 1: Do you hire a an established coordinator around the NFL.

432
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Speaker 1: You're gonna have a lot of options. A lot of

433
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Speaker 1: good coaching candidates are going to be out there. This

434
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Speaker 1: is a significant opportunity for the direction of this franchise.

435
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Speaker 1: I think probably that's what I gonna be twenty twenty three.

436
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Speaker 1: When this season it is two thousand and twenty three,

437
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Speaker 1: What am I saying? Hey Jay, Hey, what happy New year?

438
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Speaker 1: It must have had a hell of a year each man. Yeah, No,

439
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Speaker 1: I didn't, um, But for the next five years of

440
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 1: this franchise are probably going to be defined by this offseason. Yeah.

441
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Speaker 1: Between what you do at this top five pick, top

442
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Speaker 1: six pick, whatever it may be, what you do at

443
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,440
Speaker 1: head coach, those things are going to determine the next

444
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Speaker 1: probably five years of this franchise, right for sure? Matt Taylor,

445
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Speaker 1: what do you think I mean? You know, listening to

446
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 1: the national media, it's should be Jeff Saturday. It shouldn't

447
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Speaker 1: be Jeff Saturday. Who's the quarterback? Is he gonna be

448
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 1: there when the Colts picked? Do they do another veteran

449
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Speaker 1: at that? Uh, you know your thoughts on this thing,

450
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 1: just watching a dwindle like this and Jeff Saturday, you know,

451
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Speaker 1: I'm not on his behalf, but let's let's not forget.

452
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Speaker 1: I don't know that that any coach could come in

453
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Speaker 1: in into the situation that he did, especially not having

454
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Speaker 1: tremendous amount of experience on the sidelines. And and do

455
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Speaker 1: you know what people thought, you know, could be done?

456
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Speaker 1: And that's a complete turnaround. That wasn't the idea of

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Speaker 1: this thing. Well, I think the overhaul is already underway.

458
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Speaker 1: I mean, the offensive coordinator's gone, the head coach is gone.

459
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Speaker 1: And I think for me that the second loss to

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Speaker 1: Tennessee back in October, I think that was I mean,

461
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 1: seems like forever ago. That really set things off. Then

462
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Speaker 1: you make the move to Sam Ellinger, Frank gets dismissed,

463
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Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday was hired. Obviously, that was excuse me, unorthodox move.

464
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Speaker 1: I just think it's been a very chaotic, crazy season.

465
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Speaker 1: On and off the field for this team, I think

466
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Speaker 1: the Colts along the way have lost their identity. They

467
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Speaker 1: have lost who they are schematically. I think they have

468
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Speaker 1: lost who they are culturally. And you know, prior to

469
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Speaker 1: this season, Parks Frasier had never called plays at any level.

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Speaker 1: I actually think he's done a pretty good job all

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Speaker 1: things considered, but there's really no identity in the passing game.

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Speaker 1: You know, they've lost Jonathan Taylor, they lost They've lost

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Speaker 1: one of their leaders a long time ago on defense

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Speaker 1: and that Shack Leonard. And like we said last week,

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Speaker 1: once the Gun goes off against Tennessee on Sunday, that

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Speaker 1: is going to set in motion, as JJ so accurately said,

477
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Speaker 1: an offseason that is going to have long lasting ramifications

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Speaker 1: for this team, this franchise for the next you know,

479
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Speaker 1: five years, the foreseeable future is going to be you know,

480
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Speaker 1: the foundation of this team in the next five years

481
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Speaker 1: is going to be late that concrete, it's going to

482
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Speaker 1: be poured here in the months of January, February and March.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I'm not just throwing five years out

484
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Speaker 1: as a random number. It's an easy number. Five years

485
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Speaker 1: is the length of a first round contract. It's four

486
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Speaker 1: years plus a fifth year option, right, and if you're

487
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Speaker 1: drafting a quarterback, that is a that is a five

488
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Speaker 1: year window right there where that guy's on a rookie contract.

489
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Speaker 1: You can do a lot of things with how you

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Speaker 1: build your roster, but more importantly the adonomics of it,

491
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Speaker 1: right is that is the window that you are now

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Speaker 1: opening for the next five years of hate. Do we

493
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Speaker 1: have the guy or not? That's what you would find out.

494
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Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna play some who said it coming up?

495
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Speaker 1: Thanks to our friends that win bet. This is the

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Speaker 1: Colt's official podcast right now and Sam Ellinger, guys, real quick,

497
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Speaker 1: we're going to see him start this game against the Texas.

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Speaker 1: Do we need to see more but than just the

499
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Speaker 1: limited time he's been on the field right now, where

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Speaker 1: Sam ellenor her rank as far as in these future

501
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Speaker 1: plans for the Colts at the quarterback position. I think

502
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Speaker 1: if he comes out of this game, and yeah, I mean,

503
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Speaker 1: you know, I think worst case, you're looking at a

504
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Speaker 1: solid backup for him. You know, you talk to talk

505
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Speaker 1: to players after this game and after everyone as Sam

506
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Speaker 1: starts and even in you know, midweek maytay the conversations

507
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Speaker 1: you've had, and they all talk about his poise and

508
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Speaker 1: just the knowledge of the offense that he has where

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Speaker 1: you can bring him into a game and you're not

510
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Speaker 1: going to miss a beat schematically. You know, if to

511
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Speaker 1: change the offense, he knows all the calls, he knows

512
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Speaker 1: how to make the checks within this offense. Operationally, this

513
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Speaker 1: offense is going to be fine. It'll be sustained. And

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Speaker 1: for a backup quarterback, I mean, that's kind of what

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Speaker 1: you want. You want you want stabuild when you have

516
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Speaker 1: to make a change at the most important position on

517
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Speaker 1: the field, whether it's due to an injury or something else,

518
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Speaker 1: you want stability. And that's what Sam Ellinger brings you

519
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Speaker 1: is stability. And he's under contract next two years. He's

520
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Speaker 1: going to be very cheap because he was a six

521
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Speaker 1: round draft pick, so he's not costing to hault of money,

522
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Speaker 1: which is an important thing to keep in mind. If

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Speaker 1: you do have to move on from a couple of

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Speaker 1: guys in there, Matt Ryan and Nick Foles, that you

525
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Speaker 1: know they'll incurse some dead money and all that. That's

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Speaker 1: all important. And you know, maybe you want to bring

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Speaker 1: in a veteran quarterback next year. Maybe you don't, but

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Speaker 1: I think you want to see one more, one more

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Speaker 1: data point from Sam Ellinger this weekend. That does carry

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Speaker 1: a lot of importance, and that can't of compete too.

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Speaker 1: We know we've seen as he's a competitor man, so

532
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Speaker 1: it doesn't care who they bring in at quarterback. He

533
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Speaker 1: is at practice as well preparing as as a sturger.

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Speaker 1: He said in his whole career. I mean he wasn't

535
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Speaker 1: even supposed to be on this roster here. Nick Foles

536
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Speaker 1: has brought in to be the backup, and Sam competed

537
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Speaker 1: his butt off so hard in training camp that he

538
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Speaker 1: earned a spot on this roster, got better in the offseason.

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Speaker 1: Real quick. Let's play some who said. What we're gonna

540
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Speaker 1: do is we're gonna hear from some of the players

541
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Speaker 1: inside the locker rooms. We're gonna identify who that is

542
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Speaker 1: and discuss a little bit of the content, other message

543
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Speaker 1: and what we think they were getting at mattey roll

544
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Speaker 1: the first one. I think when we when we start

545
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Speaker 1: to get a little bit of a rhythm, we hurt

546
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Speaker 1: ourselves at the end of the day, and we haven't

547
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Speaker 1: been able to find an identity as an offense, whether

548
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Speaker 1: that be in one phase of offensive play. We haven't

549
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Speaker 1: been able to find that. And then when we do

550
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Speaker 1: catch a little bit of a rhythm in a game,

551
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Speaker 1: well we'll stop ourselves and we'll stall because of something

552
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: we do to ourselves, self inflicted wounds. So um, never

553
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: found an identity and hurt ourselves. Who is it? That's

554
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: the aforementioned Sam Ellinger, that's the that's Sam. I am. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's talking about why the offense hasn't found an identity

556
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Speaker 1: this late in the season. And you know, it's not hard.

557
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: It's when when you switch quarterbacks five times, which is

558
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Speaker 1: what the Colts have done and what they will do.

559
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Speaker 1: Plus when you're down multiple coaches and you've got the

560
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Speaker 1: two guys that primarily put the offense together on a

561
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Speaker 1: week to week basis for the last couple of years

562
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Speaker 1: and Marcus Brady and Frank Right no longer being here,

563
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: it leads to instability. And like I said, I don't

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Speaker 1: think I don't think the Colts really have an identity

565
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: right now. In the passing game, you know, they rarely

566
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Speaker 1: push the ball down the field. It's a lot of screens.

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Speaker 1: They don't get their big playmakers involved right now, Jilani

568
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: Woods and Alec Pierce. You know, they're they're big yards

569
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: per catch, guys don't get a lot of that, and

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00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: they're struggling mightily right now on third down. They're thirty

571
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Speaker 1: first in red zone. On offense, the offensive line hasn't

572
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: lived up to expectations this year. So it's an offense

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Speaker 1: that really doesn't hang its hat on anything right now.

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Speaker 1: And I think Sam's right, it's an offense that's going

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Speaker 1: into Week eighteen really not knowing what or who it is.

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Speaker 1: Roll tape we got who said at number two coming

577
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Speaker 1: right up. I'm proving this year and I'm a top

578
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Speaker 1: linemaker in this league. I'm an every damn starter. And

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Speaker 1: you know, for me, that was just a call in

580
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: my mind just to come in and earn my spot.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like I've done that, and I feel

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Speaker 1: like I've constantly just step in trying to make players. Now,

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00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: there's still a lot that I feel like I really

584
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 1: want to improve on. There's so many things that I

585
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: feel like I need to get better at it. But

586
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: it's a start, you know. I feel it's good to

587
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: be able to be out there and compete every snack

588
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: and every down and try to help the team win.

589
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: So it's definitely disappointed, but you know, for this year

590
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: is just something to me to build on and just

591
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Speaker 1: try to see if I could take it further next year.

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Speaker 1: That would be linebacker Zaire Franklin, who we talked about earlier.

593
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Speaker 1: He has one hundred and fifty nine tackles, two sacks,

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Speaker 1: six pass breakups, two forced fumbles this year. Zire Franklin,

595
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: by the way, he wasn't supposed to be in this role.

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00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: He's playing the mic because Shack Leonard has been out

597
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: for most of this year. But if you remember, even

598
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Speaker 1: going back to Week four when Shaq got back on

599
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: the field for the first time, they couldn't take Zire off.

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Speaker 1: They could not do it because he was playing in

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Speaker 1: such a high level and they didn't. Yeah, so much

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Speaker 1: respect to Zire Franklin for not you think about the

603
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Speaker 1: year that he had where he gets he gets a

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Speaker 1: contract extension, and some guys they get the extension, their

605
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: play falls off that you know, that big contract. Zire,

606
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: his play has got better. He has he has shown

607
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Speaker 1: himself to be a pro, a legitimately good starting linebacker

608
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. He has taken this opportunity and made

609
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: more than the most of it. Um and he's he

610
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: is the the I think he is the leader on

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Speaker 1: this team. Um. You know, hey, he talks to the

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Speaker 1: players before they go into the locker room or yet

613
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Speaker 1: four kickoff. So that's a pretty good indication. Yea, with

614
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Speaker 1: the with the likes of Matt Ryan around absolutely and

615
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: the likes de Forrest partner out there, Zaire the constant

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Speaker 1: one in there he was talking to his teammate, and

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Speaker 1: and one other thing. Um, he has stood at his

618
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: locker and answered some really hard questions all year. Just

619
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Speaker 1: so much respect for how he's handled it professionally. Um,

620
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: that is a tough spot to be in, and he has.

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Speaker 1: He has done an incredibly professional job talking to the press,

622
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Speaker 1: talking to the media in some really difficult circumstances. This here,

623
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Speaker 1: so that should also not go not go unnoticed. He

624
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: comes he comes from total humble NFL beginnings in that

625
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: he was a seventh round pick. And I love the

626
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: story Maple special teamer, yeah, a special teams guy, but

627
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Speaker 1: I mean dating back to his rookie season. I love

628
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Speaker 1: this story that he told and kind of chronicling his journey.

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Speaker 1: You know when he was a rookie in training camp,

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Speaker 1: you know, he was like running with the threes. Well

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Speaker 1: they give him a number ninety seven Jersey. Yeah. Right,

632
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Speaker 1: So I mean he's he's not a huge core part

633
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Speaker 1: of that defense in twenty eighteen when he's a rookie,

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Speaker 1: he's getting like five reps of practice like every other

635
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Speaker 1: eleven on eleven series, and he's supposed to I mean,

636
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Speaker 1: in that limited time, how are you supposed to make

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Speaker 1: a name for yourself and make enough plays to stake

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Speaker 1: acclaim at a roster spot. But he did that because

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Speaker 1: of special teams play. And now, as JJ said, he's

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Speaker 1: on the cusp of setting a franchise record for tackles

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Speaker 1: in a single season. He's under contract for next season,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna be fascinating to see how

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Speaker 1: this all plays out with Bobby o'karaka. Because o'kaaka is

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Speaker 1: a free agent and hypothetically Shack Leonard is coming back

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Speaker 1: next season. What do you do because you can't take

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Speaker 1: you can't take Franklin off the field? Can Leonard and

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Speaker 1: Franklin be the primary linebackers in his defense next season

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Speaker 1: if o'kaaka doesn't come back. In free agent, DJ Speeds

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Speaker 1: a free agent two yeah, and a guy who's had

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Speaker 1: a very good season at linebacker as well. DJ that

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Speaker 1: position will be Zire Franklin has missed like three snaps

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Speaker 1: all season. He's played one hundred percent of the snaps

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Speaker 1: in fifteen out of sixteen games. That record, I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's been guys, there's been great tacklers here for some

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Speaker 1: bad football team. So there's gonna be a little bit

656
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Speaker 1: of a when they had great football. Does not monumental

657
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Speaker 1: what this kid's doings. You can say, all right, it's

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Speaker 1: over seventeen game season and Shack Lender needed sixteen games

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Speaker 1: to get to one sixty three or whatever it was.

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Speaker 1: But like he's okay, fine, he's third in Col's history

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Speaker 1: and tackles in a season that's a great accomplish. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know that doesn't suck you. There's no diminishing the

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Speaker 1: kind of season he has had. May Tay, we talked

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Speaker 1: about this earlier, but role tape will be brief on

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Speaker 1: this one. I was disappointed, uh, frustrated, aggravated, whatever words

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Speaker 1: you want to use. Um, you know, I thought that

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Speaker 1: I thought the celebration was tasteless all the way around.

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Speaker 1: And um, you know, from from a teammate perspective, from

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Speaker 1: a guy who's done this a long time. Uh, you

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Speaker 1: know our response of taking care of our guy. I

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Speaker 1: wasn't I wasn't thrilled with and so I'm gonna leave

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Speaker 1: it that so I don't get myself in But yeah,

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Speaker 1: not not not not our best moment. Uh right, then,

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Speaker 1: well you know who that is. That's a head coach

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Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday barking to his offensive lineman about what had happened.

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Speaker 1: We talked about a Kimon Thibodeau and the celebration and everything. Uh,

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Speaker 1: we don't need to go back in it because we

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Speaker 1: said it earlier on the show. And I'm sure Jeff

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Speaker 1: Saturday did have a nose to nose, or maybe not

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Speaker 1: a nose to nose, but a stern talking to the

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Speaker 1: offensive line. I think it's the entire team some of things.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the entire team because I think it

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Speaker 1: and I know it could be any But you're right,

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Speaker 1: You're right. It could have been wide receiver, could have

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Speaker 1: been right. You know, you don't run from off the sideline,

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Speaker 1: so it's not a defensive backer. You're gonna be you know,

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Speaker 1: flagged and all stuff. But I but I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: It could have been anybody in that instance, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it just goes back to culture and I

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Speaker 1: just think it goes back to bonds and how how

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Speaker 1: close and this I don't know, I don't know. The

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Speaker 1: biggest thing, guys that I want to bring about this

693
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Speaker 1: offensive line is there what three or four sacks away

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Speaker 1: from setting the franchise record for sacks allowed. That's the day, guy,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the part that really needs a better

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Speaker 1: taste in your mouth. Because you've got some talent up there,

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Speaker 1: and we're talking about the length of this coach team.

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Speaker 1: As far as the history of this team setting a

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Speaker 1: franchise record for giving up most sacks, it's just like,

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Speaker 1: come on, yeah, yeah, I mean well that I think

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Speaker 1: that can also get into the last two set it here?

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Speaker 1: Can it not? Yes, it can. Absolutely, Let's go rotate. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think because it's a it's an extra element you

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Speaker 1: have to account for in the QB run game. You

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Speaker 1: get an extra hat and um, you run out of

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Speaker 1: guys as a defense when you're using the running back

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Speaker 1: to tide and as blockers, and so then guys have

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Speaker 1: to have to get off blocks versus having a guy

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Speaker 1: a free tackler for the running back. So there's that

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Speaker 1: and then in the past game, UM, it adds an

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Speaker 1: extra element that you got to contain the quarterback and

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Speaker 1: you can do a really good job in the back

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Speaker 1: end covering UM and there's still that element that you

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Speaker 1: have to stop. So it you know, it adds a

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Speaker 1: level of complexity to offensive play. I think what we've

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Speaker 1: seen this year, by the way, that was Sam Ellinger

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Speaker 1: talking about mobile quarterbacks. What we've seen, canot what we've

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Speaker 1: seen this year around the NFL is that you don't

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Speaker 1: need a running quarterback. Yes, it is a it's a

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Speaker 1: good thing to have if you got one, but there

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Speaker 1: are but a mobile right, a mobile quarterback. Indamic, we

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Speaker 1: don't think of Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert running quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Those guys can get outside the pocket and they can

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Speaker 1: make athletic plays off platform. That I think is the

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Speaker 1: prototype of quarterback that you're looking for. You don't need

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Speaker 1: a Josh Allen who can run the ball the way

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Speaker 1: you can, or Lamar Jackson or Justin Fields. I mean

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. He's not a running quarterback by any stretch.

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Speaker 1: He is a great quarterback who can win from the pocket.

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Speaker 1: Beacon all also win by scrambling outside the pocket, he

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Speaker 1: can evade pressure. That's something he is very good at.

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Speaker 1: That's something Joe Burrow is very good at. Um. You just,

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Speaker 1: I think what you need as a quarterback who can

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Speaker 1: evade that pressure that's coming after you, and the Colts

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Speaker 1: for most of the season have not had that guy. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean when you just talked about the sacks. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean the fifty eight sacks, that's in part because

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Speaker 1: the Colts have been immobile that quarterback, and I think

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Speaker 1: Ellinger has that ability, and that's that's too to piggyback

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Speaker 1: off of JJ. He's exactly right. That's something the Colts

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Speaker 1: I think have to find the ability to make plays

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Speaker 1: when the pocket isn't perfect and get a first down

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Speaker 1: by extending plays running the football. You gotta have that

744
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Speaker 1: because priority one this offseason is finding the long term

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Speaker 1: starter with those abilities that because that's where the game is.

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Speaker 1: That's not where the game is going, that's where the

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Speaker 1: game is, it's already there. You've got to have that.

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Speaker 1: In quite frankly, the Colts defense has struggled with that

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Speaker 1: in their opposition at quarterback this season. Okay, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: you just you just have to have that, I think

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Speaker 1: going forward, priority won this offseason is finding quarterback mobility

752
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Speaker 1: and in all likelihood probably getting young and dynamic of

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Speaker 1: that position. That's the voice of the Colts. That's Matt Taylor.

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00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,479
Speaker 1: Find him on Twitter at Maytay Colts. JJ Stankovitz Colts

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00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: dot Com Senior writer find him at JJ Stankovitz on Twitter. Guys,

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Speaker 1: don't forget this week coming up, we got roundtable Lives.

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Speaker 1: Listen to coach Jeff Saturday and Rick Ventury and Joe Writes.

758
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: They recap the Giants lost daily updates or Tuesday and

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Speaker 1: through Thursday this week on ninety three five and one

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Speaker 1: oh seven five The Fan and of course the Colts

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Speaker 1: Audio Network. You'll hear Mattey there inside Football with Ventury.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna drop on Wednesday with the blueprints to beat

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Speaker 1: these Texans. Know your foe. Get up to speed on

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Speaker 1: the Texans with John Harris, football analysts for those Texans,

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Speaker 1: as well as Friday, Don't Forget Colts APR O JMV

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Speaker 1: ninety three five, one oh seven five The Fan and

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Speaker 1: Sunday Night the instant reaction from the Texans game. That

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Speaker 1: podcast is great. That's with our very own JJ's ankles

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Speaker 1: and Bill Brooks fun facts time guys, Uh, Nick Foles

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Speaker 1: goes down, incomes Sam Ellinger. If Sam Ellinger goes down,

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Speaker 1: who is the emergency quarterback? So Jeff said, this is

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Speaker 1: your random thought here. No, no, this is just my

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Speaker 1: football thought. I've got a random thought. So all right,

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Speaker 1: So my so Jeff Saturday, I wouldn't say who it was. Um,

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Speaker 1: I had a couple of a couple of guesses. These

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Speaker 1: are all to you do I do we know? Okay?

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Speaker 1: I asked this question during the game. We happened to

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Speaker 1: be sitting in a in a booth that was right

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Speaker 1: next to the coach's box of the coaches that were upstairs.

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Speaker 1: So at halftime I kind of talked, okay, raised by

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Speaker 1: someone and I said, uh, you know, hey, what happens

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Speaker 1: just in case, so go ahead. Uh Well, so Jelanny

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Speaker 1: Woods was a college quarterback, Um, he that would be

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Speaker 1: a guess of mine that he's he's played quarterback before.

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Speaker 1: That's that would be my guess. Yeah, at a high

786
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Speaker 1: level power five conference, right, So that's that's a natural speculation.

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Speaker 1: I'm not giving up my sources, but let me just

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Speaker 1: say this on this one, that's a pretty darned stinking

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Speaker 1: good guest, j J. Thank you. That's where I'll brilliant.

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Speaker 1: That's the most of it. May Tam, I'm going to you.

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Speaker 1: You're ready for this emergency emergency quarterback? Yes me. Joffre

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Speaker 1: Gorman wasn't there. Honestly, it's a name out there that

793
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Speaker 1: we have, and I'm gonna say it's a pretty good guess.

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Speaker 1: It becomes close at that point. You're just going with

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Speaker 1: athletic trade. It's like the guy that's like the fastest

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Speaker 1: or it has the most athletic ability, that has an escapability.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, maybe like I don't know, key

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Speaker 1: key qt or something. What do you think, j J?

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Speaker 1: The emergency emergency quarterback? Yeahs Catcher, let me think about

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Speaker 1: Harris Campbell, Matt. That's a pretty good stinking guess right there. Okay,

801
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Speaker 1: when you're talking about that, But then again, I don't

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Speaker 1: know who it was or anything, but I will relieve

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Speaker 1: we'll won't name my sources on that one. Now, time

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Speaker 1: for the random thought. We're gonna get off football for

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Speaker 1: a little bit and well needed, I think during show

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Speaker 1: us recapping the Giants and looking forward to the AUF

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Speaker 1: that was not on the rundown the backup to the

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Speaker 1: backup to the backup that was not on there. All right, guys,

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Speaker 1: my random thought of the week is this. And I'm

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Speaker 1: going to you guys because one of you, well, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to be all right, let's go flavor. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you that I love Okay, So I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about the was just in New York City and

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Speaker 1: I had the most incredible slice of pizza. Okay, the

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Speaker 1: most incredible. And I've had many in New York throughout

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Speaker 1: my years and stuff of traveling, but this one was

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Speaker 1: extra special. And I'm putting it down saying right there,

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Speaker 1: you've got handcuffs on your rest of your life. When

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Speaker 1: it comes to pizza. You gotta pick one style, one place,

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Speaker 1: one something for me question. And I thought this, this

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Speaker 1: is the question. It is one place, guys. It is

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Speaker 1: one place in one place only. And I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: start with it. If I could redup, if I could

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Speaker 1: duplicate what I had in New York City this past

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Speaker 1: this past weekend, bar none without heavens. It was a

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Speaker 1: Valhalla experience that I'll remember for quite some time. It

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Speaker 1: was just I know, it's a slice of pizza, but

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Speaker 1: this thing hit on all angles and I'm gonna say

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Speaker 1: it's a small little shop that's off of was the

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Speaker 1: name of Mark. That's what I want to I have

831
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Speaker 1: to go there. I have to walk there again, and

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Speaker 1: I want to call it Bravos, but it's not Bravos

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Speaker 1: and it's not a change. It wasn't Bravo, but it

834
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Speaker 1: was bivial or something like that. I'm gonna have to

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Speaker 1: talk to my people about it. And it was kind

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Speaker 1: of people. Well, who was there with me? Is what

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Speaker 1: I meant. So I'm gonna go with that. But that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be who is I've got guesses on your two

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Speaker 1: all right, what's your guess? I love you guys. But

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Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna hear some Dominoes in there here,

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Speaker 1: some little highlighters little in there. Yeah, Donados is great,

842
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Speaker 1: so Jenji, it might be different. This would be fun

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Speaker 1: because JJ spent a lot of time in Chicago, which

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Speaker 1: is known it for the deep dish pizza. We can

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Speaker 1: go through the great restaurants that they have there, but

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Speaker 1: go ahead, deep I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Just through four

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Speaker 1: writing utensis and I was looking right at him when

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Speaker 1: I said Dominoes. Writing him was great deep dish pizzas

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Speaker 1: for tourists in Chicago, the Chicago Pizza. You go into

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Speaker 1: whatever joint is closest to you. And if they have

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Speaker 1: tavern cut which is square squares and you got the

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Speaker 1: four little triangles on the end, that are the best

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Speaker 1: pieces of pizza of all time. And if they deliver

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Speaker 1: you that pizza in a box where there is a

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Speaker 1: picture of Italy on it and it says delicious Italian Pizza,

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Speaker 1: you're in the right place. Delicious Italian pizza on the box,

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Speaker 1: on the box the remember that you can even google

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Speaker 1: that delicious Italian pizza. That's a good call. I've heard

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Speaker 1: of that conspiracy theory that you're talking about. I think

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Speaker 1: it's it stands to be true that that box goes

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Speaker 1: out to a lot of different vendors, but it only

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Speaker 1: goes out to the good one. But it only goes

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Speaker 1: out to the good ones. J J. I've i've this

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Speaker 1: comes right now. Flag on that because there's a pizza

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Speaker 1: place ride down the street from me. That's it's okay,

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Speaker 1: and that got the Italian boh by the kids, Buy

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Speaker 1: the kids pizza and take a picture of that box

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Speaker 1: and put it on Twitter. Matsape because if it says

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Speaker 1: delicious Italian pizza, So then this conspiracy or this theory

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Speaker 1: rather is is or they you got the box with

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Speaker 1: the guy in Venice he's on the water, yeah, or

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Speaker 1: it's got the chef given the you know the circle. Also,

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Speaker 1: I got I gotta say my favorite pizza place around me.

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Speaker 1: I live in Carmel. Yeah, Puccini's very good. So I

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Speaker 1: can't a good call. I love, I cannot, but there's

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Speaker 1: multiple Here's here's the thing with Puccini's for me, so

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Speaker 1: I cannot. I cannot eat cheese. I'm very lactose intolerant.

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Speaker 1: We don't need to get into that Puccini's has very

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Speaker 1: very good non dairy cheese, sure and very good. And

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Speaker 1: also that you have to say non dairy cheese in

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Speaker 1: order don't freakon cheese. Great great crust, great crust, and

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Speaker 1: don't forget if you really like pizza a lot, that

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Speaker 1: means more sugars, usually in the sauce. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. I mean, in general, it's like that pizza

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Speaker 1: was so good at tasted like a dessert. I don't

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Speaker 1: like that. I don't like that at all. I was

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Speaker 1: like you know, you see a lot of big sugars

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Speaker 1: in the in the tomato sauce stuff. I'm out on

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Speaker 1: that may take. Do you like a lot of sauce?

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Speaker 1: Are you minimal? Minimal sauce? Guy, mini sauce? I gotta

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Speaker 1: hear yours, mate, tap, where are you going? I said, Dominoes? Yeah, thanks,

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Speaker 1: appreciate that. Um, I'm not above Dominoes. Don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. Listen, it's hard to screw up pizza. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I mean, pizza's pizza. It's hard to screw it up.

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Speaker 1: But if I have to eat one style of pizza

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Speaker 1: for the rest of my life, I probably am gonna

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Speaker 1: go with the traditional large slice triangle New York style

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Speaker 1: pizza because the deep dish is very filling. I think

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Speaker 1: I would get sick of it real quick. Um, the

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Speaker 1: stuffed pizza that you see sometimes, you know, like where

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Speaker 1: the sausage is crumbled and inside the dough, I don't

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Speaker 1: think I could do that all the time every time

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Speaker 1: when I eat pizza, Probably go to this place that

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Speaker 1: you've you've turned me onto and go there for every

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Speaker 1: single time. I will have some of that. But hey,

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Speaker 1: that's my random thought of the week, where's the best

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Speaker 1: and only pizza place you're going to? Really? From the rafters,

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Speaker 1: He's in this room somewhere from the rafters. If Casey

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Speaker 1: Value he wants to chime in on best pizza around,

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Speaker 1: I think I know it's gonna be, and it's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: My guess is Casey Value is gonna call Pizza King

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Speaker 1: his favorite pizza pizza. Do not slander little slender Pizza

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Speaker 1: King Indiana Tras. I just guess what he would guess.

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Speaker 1: I have. I have family that live in Columbus, Ohio

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Speaker 1: that it's a it's a prerequisite that every time they

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Speaker 1: come to town they have to stop at Pizza King. Okay,

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Speaker 1: just okay, I'm sorry, that's what I'm I'm not slander.

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Speaker 1: But I've had pizza gay and I say, you know,

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Speaker 1: to different structure gyms. But it's not it's not a

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Speaker 1: it's not a franchise, or it's not a what's the

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Speaker 1: word I'm looking for. Not every Pizza King is exactly

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Speaker 1: the same. It's not like Chick fil a, Right, what's

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Speaker 1: the word I'm looking for. It's it's each Pizza King

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Speaker 1: has different ingredients that go into the pizza. If you

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Speaker 1: go to down South Indiana, Southern Indiana, pizza ga is

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Speaker 1: gonna taste different than the one in Zions. That's exactly right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you go to the one in Salem, Indiana, it's

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Speaker 1: different from the one in you know, Wabash. That's fair enough, guys.

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Speaker 1: I love talking pizza and football. This is this is

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Speaker 1: the Colts Official podcast again. Mayte at Mayte Colts is

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Speaker 1: his handle on Twitter. He is the voice of the

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Speaker 1: Colts and he's here. You hear him all throughout the week.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget. You can check out these guys on the

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Speaker 1: Colts Audio Network. JJ stank if it's great job as usual.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for not bringing up Polangios or Greenies. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: no no, you screwed me with you now with your pizza,

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Speaker 1: your pizza. So you're in Chicago for the collections and

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Speaker 1: you you tweeted on a photo from Giordanos. He said,

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Speaker 1: where's the best place to go get a pizza in Chicago?

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Speaker 1: And I said, leave Giordano's. He's walked to Parotellos or

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Speaker 1: Port Portillos. Now exactly the wet piefa again, here we go.

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Speaker 1: But I'm saying I drank my pizza that day and

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Speaker 1: when I went to Giardanos, because it's so hot, they

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Speaker 1: delivered to you. You gotta wait about four hours. You

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Speaker 1: can pick the thing up, so I'm out. I'm out

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Speaker 1: on Deep Dish also takes forty five minutes to make it.

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Speaker 1: It was super JJ, good call on the George Colts

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Speaker 1: Official Podcast. Folks. We'll be talking to you next week.

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Speaker 1: Got a lot to talk about with the Texans game

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Speaker 1: coming up and what's gonna happen this offseason for your

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Speaker 1: Colt for Matt Taylor Voice and the Colts and JJ

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Speaker 1: stang commits from Colts dot Com. I'm Jeffrey Gorman. We

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