Speaker 1: From the King of sports Books comes the Key sports
Speaker 1: podcast Unleashed, presented by the MGM. Here's your host, Jerry
Speaker 1: Ferrara and Olivia Harlan Decker. Welcome to Gosh. How do
Speaker 1: I say this? An interesting episode of Unleashed, A sad
Speaker 1: episode of Unleashed, and very more than anything unprobable episode
Speaker 1: of Unleashed. And our loyal listeners know exactly what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about. They know that I lost a bet that
Speaker 1: had a lot of sentiment involved in a lot of
Speaker 1: embarrassment at stake. Oh my god, Jerry, and here we are.
Speaker 1: I cannot believe it. Yeah, just to reflect for a minute,
Speaker 1: I did not want to make this bet with you,
Speaker 1: Olivia Harland Decker. I did not want to do it.
Speaker 1: For number one, I didn't want to wear cheese on
Speaker 1: my head. I just didn't. And number two I thought,
Speaker 1: I really thought we were most likely going to lose.
Speaker 1: But now you, on the other hand, and if you're
Speaker 1: just catching up with us this week and didn't here
Speaker 1: last week, you know, Olivia die Hard Packers band made
Speaker 1: a bet and you actually even threw me the points
Speaker 1: out of pity. I asked for the points bread and
Speaker 1: you said, yeah, all right whatever at a pity, that
Speaker 1: was my only hope and we went down big. But yeah,
Speaker 1: you have to wear cheese on your head this episode,
Speaker 1: and you have really nice hair, so I'm worried about
Speaker 1: I'm just worried, and I feel bad for your husband
Speaker 1: saying like you're gonna you smell like cheese tonight. Well,
Speaker 1: a couple of things. You're nice to say that, because
Speaker 1: my postpartum hair loss would beg to differ. Um, I
Speaker 1: also did not do my hair tonight, so I'm very
Speaker 1: much anticipating my post show shower. And also Sam is
Speaker 1: out of town playing a game, so no one else
Speaker 1: is going to even be close to this head of hair.
Speaker 1: In mind, my baby, you'll be asleep. So, um, this
Speaker 1: is just for you, Jerry. One wash or to wash it?
Speaker 1: You go two washes? Maybe well wash in the condition
Speaker 1: you maybe do a wash in a little condition or treatment. Now,
Speaker 1: to be fair, I get that the whole cheesehead thing
Speaker 1: is an easy thing to make fun of. I get it.
Speaker 1: I think Packer fans are self aware that it's kind
Speaker 1: of a stupid thing. Believe me, I heard a lot
Speaker 1: of that overseas for the Packers Giants game. Obviously, in London.
Speaker 1: I live in London. I went there and there were
Speaker 1: some I think did I tag you? And one of
Speaker 1: them are you sent it to me? Of Giants fans
Speaker 1: sheering about the cheese after yes, they with some curse
Speaker 1: words about the cheese. Roll that clip in here. Let's
Speaker 1: roll that clip in here because I want everyone to
Speaker 1: know who Giants fans really are. That was mean. That
Speaker 1: was nasty, too godly the whole thing though, Jerry, and
Speaker 1: I'm eating my words. I thought there was no chance
Speaker 1: in hell this would happen. I really didn't. That's why
Speaker 1: I was giving you such a hard time last week,
Speaker 1: and to be quite honest, it really shouldn't have it.
Speaker 1: I'm as shocked as anyone, only because the Giants are
Speaker 1: obviously decimated with injuries. There was Marcus Johnson I think
Speaker 1: his name is. I didn't even know who that dude was, Like,
Speaker 1: I was googling him during the game. Yeah, I just did.
Speaker 1: You were players I had to do. I had to
Speaker 1: do quick Google checks on. But I do kind of
Speaker 1: you guys are all to blame because here's my issue
Speaker 1: that I'm having with Like the Packers, obviously, I love
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. He's amazing quarterback. You have two really, really
Speaker 1: good running backs, and I know the Giants defense was
Speaker 1: stout and we were keen in a little bit, but
Speaker 1: still to go away from them on those third and
Speaker 1: fourth down plays, to not even really get the ball
Speaker 1: in their hands or even the third n I get
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is your your best player. You gotta put
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands. But still your two running
Speaker 1: backs are dynamic. I thought we would have saw. I
Speaker 1: was most afraid of a j. Dillon and of Aaron Jones.
Speaker 1: I'm not afraid of any of your receivers. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: In the past, obviously, Davante Adams scared the life out
Speaker 1: of me. There is not one receiver on the Packers
Speaker 1: that I was fearful. And we lost our number one quarterback,
Speaker 1: A Dory Jackson too, went went out in the first quarter.
Speaker 1: And I still wasn't afraid of any of your receivers.
Speaker 1: You need like a redo because Davante Adams had some
Speaker 1: issues the other night. He doesn't look too happy. Get
Speaker 1: him bad, you need him bad. Honestly, he should be.
Speaker 1: He should be in Green Bay. Still, I just love
Speaker 1: how much show you're eating up without making me put
Speaker 1: this cheese in my head. Let's talk it, let's go now.
Speaker 1: I did spare you. We talked off air. I didn't
Speaker 1: want I don't I could do no fondue or anything,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, let's just keep it simple. I'm a
Speaker 1: cheddar guy. You know it smells, but it's not like
Speaker 1: God awful. So do you have? What do you have
Speaker 1: in your possession? So you texted me I could just
Speaker 1: get away with some you know, either slices or spring
Speaker 1: goals of just cheddar, and you kept you again, You're
Speaker 1: going very easy on me, so I appreciate that. So
Speaker 1: in my fridge I looked and Sam maybe wondering what
Speaker 1: happened to our cheese. This is British cheddar, perfect for cooking,
Speaker 1: and it expires today. Oh God, are you going to
Speaker 1: keep this on for the whole shell? Um? Not for
Speaker 1: the interview? All right? I asked for that because I
Speaker 1: thought we were interviewing Kevin Garnett. Today. We're actually interviewing
Speaker 1: Kevin Garnett I believe next week, which is awesome. But
Speaker 1: today we have Zach Harper because we're gonna get to
Speaker 1: talk some NBA action, which I can't believe. That's finally
Speaker 1: here I can't believe. I know, I know, we can't wait.
Speaker 1: There's so much to get to. Okay, all right, all right,
Speaker 1: she reaches in the bad folks out most disturbing because
Speaker 1: I have a babysitter right now watching the baby, and
Speaker 1: I really hope them come out and sees what my
Speaker 1: work really. Oh that's a good. Oh my gosh, I
Speaker 1: feel bad. I feel bad. I know. Okay, so there's
Speaker 1: all right. Well, look, you cannot say Olivia Harland Decker
Speaker 1: does not pay her debts. She pays her debts. She's
Speaker 1: currently Yeah. Well, I'm sure we'll have these will be
Speaker 1: breakout clips, so we'll have this on blame the play calling.
Speaker 1: Should have got the ball a j and Aaron a
Speaker 1: little more. Oh, it doesn't all that. We gotta be
Speaker 1: a little careful with these, with these bets going forward,
Speaker 1: because but you know what, you know what, we'll end
Speaker 1: it with this. We'll move on from the bed after this.
Speaker 1: I reversed. Jings to you, Allah, Peter Andrew. Peter Andrew,
Speaker 1: but you you were a heavy favor going in, and
Speaker 1: you are pushing the envelope on what this bet wants.
Speaker 1: So let this be a lesson in our next future. Bets.
Speaker 1: Maybe we just go a little easier on each other.
Speaker 1: But it can't be money, you know. We like to
Speaker 1: make it a little bit different. And honestly, unless our
Speaker 1: two teams meet again, this is it. So I alright,
Speaker 1: I'm okay with this. So I'm not actually gonna meet
Speaker 1: in the super Bowl. Yeah, so this is it. I
Speaker 1: don't care, right, But overall, listen, great game, so much fun.
Speaker 1: The stadium at Tottenham Hotspur was amazing. In the fans
Speaker 1: Jerry were like seven Packer fans. I'm not kidding. That's
Speaker 1: the other thing you had home you had home field advantage.
Speaker 1: I did see uh picture or video Sam posted on
Speaker 1: his on his Instagram and them. I was like, wow
Speaker 1: that it just looks I used like some kind of
Speaker 1: old classy bar. It just looked really cool. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I whish I was there. That looks awesome. Oh it
Speaker 1: was so much fun. We ran into so many random
Speaker 1: people we knew. It really felt like we were at
Speaker 1: lambeau Field. It felt better than if we were at
Speaker 1: lambeau Field because so many people were you know, new
Speaker 1: Packer fans, like if they were either Brits or Europeans
Speaker 1: in general coming over for the game. And there were
Speaker 1: a couple of things. And Packer fans will know this
Speaker 1: that at a home game r p P, a announcer
Speaker 1: will say that's a Packer's first down in the music
Speaker 1: plays da da da da, go back go, and I
Speaker 1: think you do it three times and then you're done.
Speaker 1: Because you're on offense. You want to be quiet, and
Speaker 1: the either new NFL fans or new Packer fans and
Speaker 1: not realize you want to be quiet when your team's
Speaker 1: on offense. And they just kept going, go, Pat go,
Speaker 1: and we're like, no, no, no everar me quiet. But man,
Speaker 1: it didn't seem to matter that. Uh. I mean, we
Speaker 1: just gave it away. We gave it away. We're feeling
Speaker 1: confident at halftime, obviously. And one of the bets I
Speaker 1: liked going into this game was a J. Dillon over
Speaker 1: twelve and a half rushing attempts and he only had six.
Speaker 1: That's the horrible Everyone in the stands kept saying, run
Speaker 1: the damn ball, run the damn ball. It was so maddening.
Speaker 1: And then the tip passes to end the game. I mean,
Speaker 1: your defense was great, you guys throttled us. Defense was great,
Speaker 1: but so after five weeks now I have not been
Speaker 1: very impressed with the Packers at all, and to me
Speaker 1: it is squarely on. The defense hasn't been great either.
Speaker 1: Let's be honest. You let the Giants have what twenty
Speaker 1: on the answered point like, that's not good. The Giant
Speaker 1: shouldn't score that much. But yeah, again, I repeat, there's
Speaker 1: no and on that offense. Who scares me other than
Speaker 1: your running backs? Your running backs do. But I know
Speaker 1: they were like a non factor. Call down you should
Speaker 1: be calling Carolina. I also put on Twitter I was
Speaker 1: I was begging the Giants to call the Panthers because
Speaker 1: they're in full blow it up mode. It seems like
Speaker 1: DJ Moore, I don't even know if you could get them,
Speaker 1: I don't know what the trade would be. I don't
Speaker 1: even think the Giants have any cap room to make
Speaker 1: it work. But if you're the Packers, maybe you should
Speaker 1: be called Carolina and say, hey, what what do you
Speaker 1: like for DJ? Or even Robbie Anderson. At this point,
Speaker 1: that's how down I am on this receiving corps. The
Speaker 1: Packers or Robby Anderson call the Panthers the Giants. Packers
Speaker 1: absolutely should be calling the Panthers today. I know, I know.
Speaker 1: And again We've talked about the O b J situation
Speaker 1: on this show. He's not healthy. Really told in November
Speaker 1: he's smart, he's taking his sweet time. He's like, you know,
Speaker 1: the hot new girl to move to the high school.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let all the suitors come to him
Speaker 1: and and figure this out. I I would love to
Speaker 1: think he'd see the chance to do one year with
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame quarterback. But if I'm O b J,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of wondering. I don't want to, you know,
Speaker 1: go somewhere to not advanced far in the playoffs. I
Speaker 1: want a multi year deal. You know he's gonna want
Speaker 1: stability after the last year. So well, I think he
Speaker 1: deserves it because and I've always been a fan of
Speaker 1: his since he was on the Giants. I still wish
Speaker 1: he was on the Giants. I still think the Giants
Speaker 1: should call him as well. Although I don't see how
Speaker 1: you go back. I don't think it works. But we
Speaker 1: know the Rams have problems, Cooper Cup not being one
Speaker 1: of them. Oh b J got open a lot for
Speaker 1: the Rams. Alan Robinson, who I did a whole spiel
Speaker 1: on Alan Robinson before the season started. I was so
Speaker 1: happy for him to finally have a legit quarterback. He
Speaker 1: put up numbers in Chicago with no quarterback whatsoever, and
Speaker 1: then he goes to the Rams and I'm thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: he's got Stafford. Now I don't know if they have
Speaker 1: zero chemistry or if Alan Robinson can't get separation or what.
Speaker 1: He gets no looks. So to me, if you're looking
Speaker 1: at it, O b J was getting looks and was
Speaker 1: a big part of that offense, Alan Robinson is not.
Speaker 1: So I think that makes O. B J stock go
Speaker 1: up if I'm now that was coming off a massive injury.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I you're right. He should absolutely sit back.
Speaker 1: Teams like the Giants who are decimated, the Packers who
Speaker 1: need help, or you know, some teams were gonna look
Speaker 1: to maybe just get that one last piece like the
Speaker 1: Bills and and and go for it. So this is
Speaker 1: really getting interesting. If I'm O b J looking at
Speaker 1: the Rams still, I mean, look at their last game.
Speaker 1: Stafford through for over three hundred and had four interceptions.
Speaker 1: They're playing with everyone keep saying a patchwork offensive line,
Speaker 1: which you know, almost every offensive line in the NFL
Speaker 1: at some point of the season is patchwork. You know,
Speaker 1: guys just move all around. Certainly Green Bays is getting
Speaker 1: back to that. But yeah, Ram's offense looks pretty pedestrian,
Speaker 1: and you want to you spoke about London fans cheering
Speaker 1: at the wrong time in l a Stafford having the
Speaker 1: quiet his own crowd, or at least he thought it
Speaker 1: was his own crowd, and last year Majordy cowboy fans there.
Speaker 1: And oh I talked about this on Twitter at one
Speaker 1: of my buddies who's a Bears fan. We both the
Speaker 1: fact that there is no disrespect to Justin Fields. I
Speaker 1: think Justin Fields is good. I think he's going to
Speaker 1: be good. I believe in Justin Fields. The Giants traded
Speaker 1: out of that pick, the Bears got that pick draft Fields,
Speaker 1: and now Michael Parsons is having a year that very
Speaker 1: few defensive players have. And the fact that the Giants
Speaker 1: passed on them. The Bears passed them, but the Bears
Speaker 1: that need a quarterback and he falls right to the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: That just hurts, because man, I would love to have
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons on the Giants right now. I know everyone's
Speaker 1: looking at Michael Parsons. Dan Quinn's defense is looking really legit.
Speaker 1: In fact, I think Dan Quinn's probably first step for
Speaker 1: the next head coaching hire, which we're kind of looking
Speaker 1: at Matt Rule and Carolina. I think he's got the
Speaker 1: hottest seat right now in the NFL. But on the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: let's just finish off on that. When you look at
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush, he had just ten completions. I know, people
Speaker 1: are really hot right now. He's undefeated, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: I mean, his game wasn't tastic. He had just ten completions,
Speaker 1: like I said, but he's winning now. Obviously. Zeke and
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard are doing the heavy lifting and looking incredible.
Speaker 1: In fact, I think Tony Pollard needs the ball more.
Speaker 1: But together they were great and Dad may come back
Speaker 1: this week against Philly. How do you feel about that? So,
Speaker 1: as a Giants fan and as an avid NFC East
Speaker 1: watcher and being pleasantly surprised by the NFC East this year, Look,
Speaker 1: Cowboys have gotten off the great starts in the past.
Speaker 1: This is in the last ten years, isn't it, But
Speaker 1: by far, by far. And I'm being honest with you
Speaker 1: Cowboy fans, and I know there's a billion of you
Speaker 1: out there. This is the most scared of a Cowboys
Speaker 1: team that I have ever been because I look around
Speaker 1: that roster. I look around. They have two really good
Speaker 1: running backs, they have one really great receiver and a
Speaker 1: bunch of good role playing receivers. The offensive line could
Speaker 1: get even healthier. And the defense, this is the best
Speaker 1: Cowboys defense since the nineties, since they had Charles Haley
Speaker 1: and Leon This is the best Cowboys defense since the nineties.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it just is. So I'm really afraid you
Speaker 1: lay out a good argument. I guess I just feel
Speaker 1: like the Cowboys of years past have been more star studded.
Speaker 1: But you know, it doesn't matter, and we're seeing that
Speaker 1: by by teams like the Giants, and you know what,
Speaker 1: the Eagles, who are obviously the leaders right now, be
Speaker 1: scared of the Eagles, right But could you name like,
Speaker 1: could you name seven Eagles off the top of your head?
Speaker 1: You probably could, but you have to think when you
Speaker 1: get down the like four or five or six and
Speaker 1: not loaded with stars. They're just a really good deep team.
Speaker 1: I don't really want to talk about the top of
Speaker 1: my head right now, besides the Chadar, the British Cheddar
Speaker 1: that's on the top of your head. Last thing about
Speaker 1: the Cowboys because I want to ask you this, it's
Speaker 1: Dak's job, right, I mean, that's what every talking head
Speaker 1: show is going to talk. Of course it is, and
Speaker 1: I agree, And I thought about this a lot while
Speaker 1: doing the workout this morning. Cooper Rush is doing amazing things.
Speaker 1: He's managing the game perfectly. Ceedee Lamb is very effective
Speaker 1: with Cooper Rush in the lineup. But I just think
Speaker 1: Dac has a much higher ceiling. Maybe a lower floor,
Speaker 1: maybe when he goes bad and the offenses run differently,
Speaker 1: and if he throws some picks because Cooper does not
Speaker 1: throw picks, maybe a lower floor. But I think to
Speaker 1: advance and win three or four games in the playoffs
Speaker 1: to win a Super Bowl, I think you need the
Speaker 1: ceiling of Dak, and I think he's earned that. So
Speaker 1: let's let's quiet all the chatter about maybe the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are better off what time will tell, but and and
Speaker 1: beating the Eagles would go a long way for either
Speaker 1: of these two quarterbacks. But yeah, this is we got
Speaker 1: some good matchups this week. I gotta say with Cooper,
Speaker 1: it's really fun to watch this because of course, when
Speaker 1: Dad comes back, which should be this week, he's earning
Speaker 1: himself years in this league. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: people will go back to this season and look at
Speaker 1: what he did and whether he's a backup for the
Speaker 1: rest of his career or not. I see him really
Speaker 1: doing some good things for his career. So it's always
Speaker 1: great to see that someone else who was earning themselves
Speaker 1: years in this league. Is Dino Smith in your Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 1: He's been so great last week three touchdowns, no interception.
Speaker 1: H Kenneth Walker Jr. Obviously was great. Penny got hurt,
Speaker 1: so that's a question mark. Their defense is terrible in Seattle,
Speaker 1: but they've got this like top ten offense in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And they lost, of course, but they look legit on offense.
Speaker 1: So obviously, my my long shot lottery ticket of the
Speaker 1: Seahawks winning the division is not going to hold up.
Speaker 1: Although gosh, if they just had a little bit of
Speaker 1: defense and if they could have held onto that game,
Speaker 1: or you know, they had one more win and you're
Speaker 1: really looking at the Rams saying okay, and look, the
Speaker 1: Niners are scary on defense. They just lost the defensive
Speaker 1: player today. I would still at least be in the hunt.
Speaker 1: I still am in the hunt, but barely. But the
Speaker 1: bigger story. The bigger story is they got the Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson trade right. They got a lot of value for him.
Speaker 1: They didn't have to pay him all that money. And
Speaker 1: maybe it's too soon to say, oh, Russell Wilson's finished.
Speaker 1: I think it is a little too soon because who
Speaker 1: knows if he's hurt new offense and maybe the coach
Speaker 1: is part of the issue. Who knows. Either way, Do
Speaker 1: you want that for the next five years? No, you
Speaker 1: now have draft capital, you have GENO for the time being. Uh,
Speaker 1: things are looking bright in Seattle. I just again with
Speaker 1: these older coaches. That's why I'm so upset with Like Tomlin,
Speaker 1: he's not an old coach, but it's been around. I
Speaker 1: don't want to watch Tomlin rebuild. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I want to watch Pete cow rebuild. But it certainly
Speaker 1: seems like they're there are a few steps ahead of
Speaker 1: where we all thought they would be going into the year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Russell Wilson thing is cringe e. But it's like
Speaker 1: when a couple gets a divorce and one of them
Speaker 1: just really kicking ass and one of them is and
Speaker 1: I you know, one of them is going on dates
Speaker 1: and supernatos on the cat were subway sandwiches weird commercial
Speaker 1: subway sandwiches on Then how about the let's ride as
Speaker 1: he's leaving the press conference? That was that not so
Speaker 1: weird and cringe e than country. You need to go
Speaker 1: ride yourself to a quarterback camp and talk to Trent
Speaker 1: Dilfer or something or whatever, because no one's writing if
Speaker 1: you are, No one's riding right now, so you need
Speaker 1: to Yeah, no one's riding right now unless the people
Speaker 1: are betting against you or maybe riding with you. Something
Speaker 1: else about Russ that kind of just it was always
Speaker 1: weirded me out for years now. I've kind of kept
Speaker 1: tabs on this is like every video I see of him,
Speaker 1: he has a different accent. I'm not kidding. Some of
Speaker 1: his Instagram stories, he has a completely different voice than
Speaker 1: later and and I just I've heard like twelve different
Speaker 1: variations of his voice, which just kind of adds to
Speaker 1: the who are you dude? Like? And I don't know
Speaker 1: if you watch this two on Good Morning Football, they
Speaker 1: did a whole rant on it and it was a
Speaker 1: great piece and they just we're giving more firsthand stories
Speaker 1: of dealing with Russell, like behind the scenes and just
Speaker 1: same kind of unflattering things, and so a lot coming
Speaker 1: to light. Look, I I wish, I wish no one
Speaker 1: ill in this business. I don't. I would love. I
Speaker 1: would love everyone to do well, stay healthy and provide
Speaker 1: for their family. But he would have Russell Wilson or
Speaker 1: Gino Smith. And you have to answer right now. I'll
Speaker 1: let you take one piece of cheese off your head
Speaker 1: if you answer in less than five seconds. Okay, I
Speaker 1: believe you could take a little cheese off. I think
Speaker 1: I would too. I don't know, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: really see that. We're overreacting obviously, and we're kind of
Speaker 1: jumping to it feels like an NBA trade to me,
Speaker 1: that trade. There's so many teams, Like if you look
Speaker 1: at the Pelicans and we're gonna talk about all this
Speaker 1: with Zach Harper. Obviously you love Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis
Speaker 1: won a Bubble championship with the Lakers, but the last
Speaker 1: few years he's been injured, we haven't seen him. And
Speaker 1: now the Pelicans, who have a good roster, now have
Speaker 1: a million of the Lakers picks. That's a great place
Speaker 1: to be in and the Seahawks could be left with
Speaker 1: very valuable draft capital. If the Broncos don't pull this together,
Speaker 1: and now there's still the three and two, so we're
Speaker 1: two and three. But yeah, this is crazy. Speaking of this,
Speaker 1: there's a team that is one in four, that maybe
Speaker 1: the best one in four team in the NFL, and
Speaker 1: I have said, I think this team is making the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm going against that now obviously, but it leads
Speaker 1: me to my m it's time to leash. So the
Speaker 1: Davante Adams shoving a photographer thing, well, let me just
Speaker 1: say when I first saw the video, I was shocked.
Speaker 1: It's so not Davante. He's always been such a class act, calm, cool,
Speaker 1: collected and as someone who works on the sidelines of games,
Speaker 1: and I worked with so many amazing people over the years,
Speaker 1: camera guys, security guys, graphics people. You know, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of people who earn their paycheck on a football field,
Speaker 1: not just the players and coaches. Okay, so I felt
Speaker 1: pretty angry the first time I saw it. I'm like
Speaker 1: that guy, just like, that's DeVante's dream job. That's that
Speaker 1: guy's dream up, you know, to be an NFL photographer.
Speaker 1: That it's It made me so angry that these people
Speaker 1: sacrifice and are working long hours and for a lot
Speaker 1: less money. And you know the guy too, he was
Speaker 1: just walking across the tunnel. I could understand if it
Speaker 1: was almost paparazzi like of like shoving a camera in
Speaker 1: his face, blah blah blah, but he was I don't
Speaker 1: think he saw Davante coming, as I've rewatched the tape,
Speaker 1: so I just thought that was so unfair and really
Speaker 1: sad to see. Davante quickly apologized both of the man
Speaker 1: on Twitter and then to the press afterwards in the
Speaker 1: locker room. And I still think he's a class act.
Speaker 1: This was so out of character, and I get it.
Speaker 1: He was so embarrassed by the way that game ended.
Speaker 1: At one point last Monday Night football in Kansas City,
Speaker 1: him and Hunter Renfro run into each other on their
Speaker 1: final play to win it. And it was horrible. But
Speaker 1: Adams had two touchdowns twenty four yards. He had a
Speaker 1: great game and only on three catches too, which is wild.
Speaker 1: How did he only have three catches and two touchdowns
Speaker 1: and a hundred twenty four yards? I don't know. But anyways,
Speaker 1: a eads now one and four and Adams is kind
Speaker 1: of sitting there, probably wondering what his decision was all about.
Speaker 1: I would assume we've talked about it a lot on
Speaker 1: the show, but a part of my unleashed is this.
Speaker 1: After saying all that, I think it's funny that after
Speaker 1: three hours of asking these guys on the field, these
Speaker 1: players to be gladiators, right, to just run down each
Speaker 1: other's throats, to be so aggressive and violent, that now
Speaker 1: we are clutching our pearls at this little shove like
Speaker 1: as he's walking off the field. And I know this
Speaker 1: might kind of sound hypocritical, but I think the shove
Speaker 1: was totally inappropriate. And again I felt really bad for
Speaker 1: the guy. But I imagine after giving a game, you're
Speaker 1: all and being frustrated with the season, and all you
Speaker 1: hear when you go home as you should have stayed
Speaker 1: in Green Bay blah blah blah. Having all this energy,
Speaker 1: all this aggression for that long, I think it's very
Speaker 1: hard to simply walk off the field or talk with
Speaker 1: the reporter, right. Don't you always feel awkward when a
Speaker 1: players really heated and has a cameras and microphone shoved
Speaker 1: in their face to talk after I think of Richard
Speaker 1: Sherman and Aaron Andrews, that famous postgame interview, and obviously
Speaker 1: Richard wasn't violent or anything, but I'm just saying, there's
Speaker 1: so much going on that right after you're kind of
Speaker 1: not your normal self. You're not how you'd be walking
Speaker 1: down the street, you know what I mean. So I
Speaker 1: always think about that. It's like we asked them to
Speaker 1: do so much physically and to just be these animals,
Speaker 1: these gladiators on the field, and then we want them
Speaker 1: to be perfect gentleman seconds after. And I think that's
Speaker 1: a little unfair of us. You know, let's let's give
Speaker 1: these guys a little second to cool off, because it's
Speaker 1: a whole different mode they're in when they're on the pitch,
Speaker 1: as we say here in London. What do you think, Jerry,
Speaker 1: I think that's a great point. Look, I think if
Speaker 1: you Davante Adams would like to have that one back,
Speaker 1: of course, And I'm with you, like he's he seems
Speaker 1: like an awesome guy, besides this being an awesome player.
Speaker 1: When I'm liking so far as it seems like everyone's
Speaker 1: accepting an apology for the mistake. Finally, like someone made
Speaker 1: a mistake. Uh fortunately, does not seem like the guy
Speaker 1: was hurt. That's let's keep you know, clarity, That's the
Speaker 1: most important thing. The guy didn't get hurt, thankfully, or
Speaker 1: else this would have been a much bigger deal. The
Speaker 1: guy made a mistake. He made Davante Adams made a mistake.
Speaker 1: He said, I'm sorry, Let's forgive him. I've got to
Speaker 1: get fined for sure. If our Davante had definitely reach
Speaker 1: out to the guy, be like again, I'm I'm sure
Speaker 1: he has. I'm sorry anything I can ever do you know,
Speaker 1: let's let's let's move on. You know, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't think it was Thankfully he wasn't hurt. Let's focus
Speaker 1: on that and let's move on. I'm sure Davante Adams
Speaker 1: feels like shit about it and would like to move on.
Speaker 1: So I think we just we can move on. Let's
Speaker 1: forgive someone who made a mistake and move forward. So good, great,
Speaker 1: unleash though, thank you? Than do you want mine? Okay, listen, Obviously,
Speaker 1: I'm a New York guy. I am not getting too
Speaker 1: far ahead of myself with the New York Football Giants
Speaker 1: four and one, and I love my coach. We talked
Speaker 1: already about that way. I'm over the moon, so and
Speaker 1: I'm actually trying to be quiet about like, great, awesome,
Speaker 1: I'm not taking any victory laps because it's only five
Speaker 1: games in. Now we're gonna circle over to my Jets
Speaker 1: fan friends. However, we say that properly, my Jets fans
Speaker 1: friends who historically have always taken victory laps after week one,
Speaker 1: after Week two, or beating the Patriots once or whatever,
Speaker 1: and haven't been good in a really long time. I'm
Speaker 1: not a Jets hater. I do laugh at their pain,
Speaker 1: as many people laugh at my Knicks pain. I do
Speaker 1: laugh at the Jets pain. Jets fans, you should absolutely
Speaker 1: be excited. But I was in a Twitter conversation which
Speaker 1: probably was my first mistake, with a good buddy of mine,
Speaker 1: Sean from the Knicks Wall, great Knicks fan, and my
Speaker 1: guy was talking about, I can't believe the Jets are
Speaker 1: gonna have a defensive rookie of the Year and an
Speaker 1: offensive rookie of the year. This is crazy. Look, look,
Speaker 1: look pumped the brakes. Okay, maybe Sauce Gardner could and
Speaker 1: we devaded. So Sauce Gardner as being a little lockdown corner,
Speaker 1: and he certainly seems like he is, and maybe he
Speaker 1: will win defensive Rookie Year number one? Who cares really
Speaker 1: about those awards? Those are great for the player individually.
Speaker 1: You want this team to develop, You want the young
Speaker 1: talent you have to develop. You have great young talent.
Speaker 1: Take that victory lap Who cares about the awards? Let's
Speaker 1: not get too far ahead of ourselves. You've done that
Speaker 1: historically and that historically does not work. So enjoy the
Speaker 1: winds that you've had. Enjoy this young talent. So don't
Speaker 1: talk about defensive Rookie of the year offensive rookie of
Speaker 1: the year. Just you got a game this week against
Speaker 1: your Green Bay Packers. Could New York snake bite you twice?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I like that it's in Lambeaux. But
Speaker 1: these Jets are a problem. They really are. They are
Speaker 1: not and I actually like the Jets this week. I
Speaker 1: like the Packers to win, but I think it's another
Speaker 1: tight one. Well, what I was just thinking, if if
Speaker 1: you're bragging and we might have defensive Rookie of the
Speaker 1: year an offensive Rookie of the year, well I should
Speaker 1: would hope. So if you had to top ten picks
Speaker 1: right exactly and the number four, number ten, I think, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I forget, but you would think, especially getting one on
Speaker 1: each side of the ball, that that'd be an option.
Speaker 1: But no, Hey, props to Robert Salah. These Jets are
Speaker 1: are kind of fun to watch. And I'm happy for
Speaker 1: Robert sala I've worked with them a little bit when
Speaker 1: he was the forty Niners at d C, and it's
Speaker 1: great seeing good things happen to good people. And I'm
Speaker 1: sure as a New York guy and as a Giants fan,
Speaker 1: you're just like, you're kind of like, come on, we
Speaker 1: are having a moment. Not you listen take all the
Speaker 1: head to see I this was what I did with
Speaker 1: you last week. I played I downplayed the Giants in London.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna downplay this Giants Jets. That Jets. Take all
Speaker 1: the headlines, take all of them, take every single one.
Speaker 1: We will quietly go about our business, will coach Briant table,
Speaker 1: where's Jordan's cement? Threes? And we will just go to
Speaker 1: work and that's it. He's cool onto the Ravens. I'm grant.
Speaker 1: I actually reached out to him. Uh and my friends
Speaker 1: at the Giants said, I don't think it's going to
Speaker 1: happen in season, which I love that answer. Yes, because
Speaker 1: he's not taking a victory lab and why would he
Speaker 1: be talking to us. I should be prepping for his game.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't talk to us. I mean, I got freaking
Speaker 1: sprinkled British cheddar on my head. We're not serious, you
Speaker 1: know what. Well, I'm in such a good mood talking
Speaker 1: about the New York football teams, Like, you know, we
Speaker 1: got Yankees playoff games in the city I'm living in
Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Take the cheese off your head, Take it off.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Let's get ready for our interview Zach Harper.
Speaker 1: The NBA season tips off on Tuesday, and we're about
Speaker 1: to run our own fast break to get you ready
Speaker 1: and leading the point is our guest staff writer for
Speaker 1: The Athletic Zach Harper is here. Zach. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 1: We're excited to have you on. Yeah, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: I'm ready to I'm ready to get back into the
Speaker 1: whole thing. What's weird is I uh, I've been on vacation,
Speaker 1: not going anywhere and not do anything fun. I've just
Speaker 1: been off the last couple of weeks, so I've been
Speaker 1: like cramming to get back. And I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess Draymond gotten to fight and you know, let's
Speaker 1: let's see what else is going on? Yeah that much.
Speaker 1: I mean from trade demands to inter office affairs. It's
Speaker 1: really been one of the wildest, most interesting off season.
Speaker 1: So as you're catching up, what's the one story you
Speaker 1: can't believe happened? Surprisingly, it's that Draymond punched a teammate.
Speaker 1: And it's the teammate that he punched, right, It's not
Speaker 1: like if it was of like grizzly veteran or a
Speaker 1: big tough guy or something like that. All right, you know, whatever,
Speaker 1: the stuff happens, and it does happen. But Jordan's pools
Speaker 1: like the little brother, who I think is like a
Speaker 1: cat own. It's just not the guy you would punch, right, Like,
Speaker 1: It's just not like it's not it's not that big
Speaker 1: tough guy, Like, yeah he talks, but I think that
Speaker 1: and everything that kind of mushrooms off of that in
Speaker 1: terms of where we're going to see the chemistry of
Speaker 1: the Warriors, which has always been something they can rely
Speaker 1: on of like we know what we are, we know
Speaker 1: who we are, and now as defending champs and even
Speaker 1: a bigger target on their back and everything like that's
Speaker 1: pretty big. But as I say this. I mean the
Speaker 1: email Doka stuff is actually really crazy. Like I don't
Speaker 1: know why I said Draymond because that is between their
Speaker 1: injuries and they're just disruption and now they just have
Speaker 1: a whole new coach they weren't expecting to have. I
Speaker 1: should have suspected something when their own team governor came
Speaker 1: out and said like a week prior, like, I think
Speaker 1: we're overrated. I think people are overrating us where I'm like,
Speaker 1: I just went to the finals, how are you overrated?
Speaker 1: But those are the those are the two pick ones
Speaker 1: I guess now. Look, everyone's obviously up in arms about
Speaker 1: the Draymond stuff. I had several conversations with friends who
Speaker 1: one of my buddies called me it's like you know
Speaker 1: what you know when you look at someone and you're like,
Speaker 1: they know what they're doing, Like Draymond knows how to
Speaker 1: fight based off that punch, there's zero doubt about it. Uh. Look,
Speaker 1: now I feel like everyone's shipping Draymond Green off, like
Speaker 1: all the Warriors can't stay together like this, and that's
Speaker 1: going to be such a like to me. But I've
Speaker 1: never been hit like that. I don't want to be
Speaker 1: hit like that. I've certainly argued with teammates and have
Speaker 1: never to play in the NBA. If any team could
Speaker 1: come back from that chemistry wise, it's the Warriors, right
Speaker 1: like I think so, I think so like that and
Speaker 1: it's it's not like it's a new guy who did it,
Speaker 1: right like they know Draymond, but Draymond did he overstepped
Speaker 1: the mountains, like across the line there, and you're right,
Speaker 1: like that was a that was a bar punch like
Speaker 1: that is that is? Like that was I have been
Speaker 1: hit like that? It sucks, uh and I but but
Speaker 1: it was by a stranger. I didn't have to be
Speaker 1: friends with this person anymore like it was by a stranger.
Speaker 1: And so there are plenty of those. There are plenty
Speaker 1: of those. But yeah, like that's something where I think.
Speaker 1: The crazy thing about that and something that happened throughout
Speaker 1: the week of the of the story is most of
Speaker 1: the people on the court didn't see the punch until
Speaker 1: the video goes like Curry didn't see the punch happen.
Speaker 1: All he did was turned around and there's a scuffle,
Speaker 1: right like Andrewodalad didn't see the punch happened. So there
Speaker 1: is okay, we got we had a practice fight. Whatever
Speaker 1: it happens. You know, Jordan's on the on the floor.
Speaker 1: He was shooting around and smiling after the practice when
Speaker 1: the media got let in. So it's not like he
Speaker 1: got sent to the hospital or anything. But once you
Speaker 1: see the way it happened and that there's just this
Speaker 1: immediate escalation. Yeah, like we miss you. We're not not
Speaker 1: we necessarily, but like athletes often miss you. Like, I'm
Speaker 1: so humbled by this experience, right Lebron James saying, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna pass Kaream's scoring record. I'm humbled by that.
Speaker 1: It's like, that's not what that means, Like you're not
Speaker 1: humbled by the idea that you're gonna be the all
Speaker 1: time leading score Draymond Green is legitimately humbled by this,
Speaker 1: and it takes a lot to humble that guy. And
Speaker 1: so I do think like he has a ton of
Speaker 1: work to do to get back on the trust side
Speaker 1: for his entire team, for Jordan Pool. But it's not
Speaker 1: a guarantee. It's not a guarantee that it's going to happen.
Speaker 1: I would guess that it is, but if it, you know,
Speaker 1: two months in the season, it Hey, this isn't gonna
Speaker 1: be repaired, and maybe we do need to ship him
Speaker 1: somewhere because he's got a contract coming up and everything
Speaker 1: I could see it, I just I'm I'm with you,
Speaker 1: like I think they're going to be okay. It seems
Speaker 1: you know, when you hear something happened and you're kind
Speaker 1: of like, oh yeah, but when you see it or
Speaker 1: when you hear recording of something, it all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it's so much worse. In sports, we can think of
Speaker 1: so many things that happened off the field, domestic violence
Speaker 1: type thing. When the video comes out, when the audio
Speaker 1: recording comes out, you're like, damn, that's that's it's different.
Speaker 1: It kind of felt like that because and of course
Speaker 1: there was no audio to it. Have you heard anything
Speaker 1: about what might have been said? I have. I've read
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff of like what could have been said.
Speaker 1: I don't know how much of it is real and
Speaker 1: how much of it is like people trying to be
Speaker 1: the onion, Like I don't know what it is like,
Speaker 1: there's there's just it's like that that Kawhi Leonard story
Speaker 1: of he went to a restaurant and he had a
Speaker 1: bag of apples and they asked him what, you know,
Speaker 1: what he wanted, and he's like, apple time, Apple time.
Speaker 1: It's not a real story, but enough people believed it
Speaker 1: because Kauai is like kind of a different dude, right,
Speaker 1: And so now with the Draymond stuff in Jordan's pool,
Speaker 1: Jordan talks a lot. Draymond is Draymond, Like, there's so
Speaker 1: many iterations of what you could say, Hey, I heard
Speaker 1: this happened, and I'd probably believe. I don't know what
Speaker 1: to believe. Though. What I heard before I saw the
Speaker 1: punched in your in your right, what I heard was
Speaker 1: like Draymond punched him aggressively. I'm like, what does that mean?
Speaker 1: And then I saw the video, was like, that's underselling it.
Speaker 1: That's that was not aggressively. That was that was a
Speaker 1: just a straight up bar fight, except one guy didn't
Speaker 1: seem to know he was fighting. And so yeah, like
Speaker 1: seeing that and I think that's again, like that's the
Speaker 1: thing for the team is once they all saw it.
Speaker 1: I mean, Steph rarely comes out and talks against the teammate,
Speaker 1: but Steph, you know, made some pretty strong comments for
Speaker 1: him based on the situation, while still trying to delicately
Speaker 1: balanced that leadership role, and you know Draymond, it's not
Speaker 1: like he was just some guy on the team, Like
Speaker 1: he's one of the big leaders and that's that's gonna
Speaker 1: be a real thing that they have to fix. It
Speaker 1: did lead to uh, one of my favorite Twitter exchanges
Speaker 1: of Chris Child, who is not verified on Twitter. So
Speaker 1: I hope it's the real Chris Child. I believe it's him.
Speaker 1: I think it's him. I think we can we can't
Speaker 1: confirm it, but like it's as close to a confirmation
Speaker 1: as Bossy I was like reading, is this like a
Speaker 1: fake Chris Child account? And Chris basically the Chris Child's
Speaker 1: account who we believe is Chris Child is saying, Man,
Speaker 1: if they if there's cameras in the nineties for those
Speaker 1: nineties nixed teams in early two thousands, nixed teams, that
Speaker 1: was like a regular thing. Also, it looked like that
Speaker 1: camera was from the nineties. What we all the simply
Speaker 1: save the ads that every podcast has and there's no
Speaker 1: is there that might be on purpose that those security
Speaker 1: cameras are such ship quality. Yeah, I think you know,
Speaker 1: you can put filters on anything right now, Like I
Speaker 1: could look like like the dog out of nowhere. If
Speaker 1: you guys wanted to like it's just like you know,
Speaker 1: there's there's a lot you can do there. Yeah. It
Speaker 1: it definitely looked like like the early versions of a
Speaker 1: ring camera, right like in the quality of it, and
Speaker 1: they're like not the updated stuff, but that first like
Speaker 1: kind of prototype, and um, it's yeah, I mean, man,
Speaker 1: what would you pay to get the Charles Oakley practice footage?
Speaker 1: Because I would pay a lot of money. That means,
Speaker 1: I mean I just go straight credit card on that one,
Speaker 1: like whatever, I'll pay that off later. Like let's we
Speaker 1: got to see all that stuff. So I think it
Speaker 1: was Chris Child's. I would love to hear Chris child
Speaker 1: stories on that. No, we're gonna get Chris Childs on
Speaker 1: this pod to try to talk the guy too. Pieced
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant during used to go to other teams practices
Speaker 1: and fight like I don't even know how he got
Speaker 1: in the building, Like he would just walk in like
Speaker 1: you owe me money, Like let's go Like that's you know,
Speaker 1: those those nineties ones were different, and Steve Kerr kind
Speaker 1: of alluded to that. He said, of all the years
Speaker 1: in the NBA, I've seen twenty plus fights, but that's
Speaker 1: probably a conservative number, and he said, the bigger problem
Speaker 1: right now it is who leaked it, and that kind
Speaker 1: of leads to other organizational issues. And I just want
Speaker 1: to circle back to a team that's got a lot
Speaker 1: of organizational issues right now. Is the Boston Celtics, once
Speaker 1: thought to be kind of a front runner to repeat
Speaker 1: and and be the leader in the East. Now you
Speaker 1: just wonder where did all these cracks happen? And where
Speaker 1: was the breakdown in organization? What do you think the
Speaker 1: Celtics do from here? Does this completely unravel their season?
Speaker 1: And obviously you mentioned the big injuries do right, I
Speaker 1: mean it's tough because now you start wondering what was
Speaker 1: the real Celtics team. Was it the first half Celtics
Speaker 1: team where everyone's like, oh, maybe we should trade Tatum
Speaker 1: or Brown and maybe this isn't the right mix and everything,
Speaker 1: or is it the second half team that dominated the NBA?
Speaker 1: I mean absolutely dominated from every measurement you can you
Speaker 1: can have out there on the floor, like they were
Speaker 1: by far the best team in the second half of
Speaker 1: last season. And then obviously their playoff run was incredible
Speaker 1: and you can say, yeah, there's luck because you know
Speaker 1: Chris Middleton got her. Sure, absolutely. That happens in every postseason, though,
Speaker 1: like we always see some team that isn't healthy and
Speaker 1: it hurts them. Celtics stayed healthy enough, they went through
Speaker 1: their own injuries. UM trying to figure out which team
Speaker 1: that is. You know, they acquire Malcolm Brogda. I love
Speaker 1: that move. They didn't give up much for him, but
Speaker 1: he misses a lot of time. He has planner fasciitist
Speaker 1: issues and all kinds of extremity issues, and so is
Speaker 1: he going to be healthy and available. Robert Williams the
Speaker 1: third already out, you know, months and after the injuries
Speaker 1: he's gone through earlier in his career, had the quick
Speaker 1: turnaround from the meniscus tear. You have to be concerned
Speaker 1: about his availability even when he is back to whatever
Speaker 1: looks like for him. The coaching situation, I mean, until
Speaker 1: this email, U dooka stuff broke. I thought Celtics are
Speaker 1: the team to beat in the Eastern Conference, as good
Speaker 1: as the Bucks, are as good as the Miami or
Speaker 1: Philly or any of these teams Brooklyn on paper at least,
Speaker 1: and until they figure out what what that's gonna be.
Speaker 1: I thought, No, the Celtics are still a team to beat. Now,
Speaker 1: I'd probably say Milwaukee is has their number and maybe
Speaker 1: had their number the whole time. But the Celtics, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's just what I like to do with the team
Speaker 1: and trying to figure out if they're legitimate or not,
Speaker 1: or if they're going to sustain is It's what I
Speaker 1: call the what if game. And once we start getting
Speaker 1: to like four or five what ifs of like what
Speaker 1: if this guy is healthy, what if this coach is
Speaker 1: really good, and what if this guy can come back,
Speaker 1: and what if this chemistry. Once we get to like
Speaker 1: four or five, you're really just grasping at straws there,
Speaker 1: and it feels like we're headed that way. It can correct,
Speaker 1: they could be healthy and everything could be fine, but
Speaker 1: it feels like we're headed to that four or five
Speaker 1: what ifs. Yeah, even the factor in you know, I
Speaker 1: thought the Gallinari signing was going to be good, especially
Speaker 1: come around off time for them. He gets hurt and
Speaker 1: then you know, this is what makes me think, You're like,
Speaker 1: we're living in a simulator sometimes because you have Will
Speaker 1: Hardy there who is primed and ready for a head
Speaker 1: coaching job, and then Danny Ainge plucks him away and
Speaker 1: then you lose your head coach, like gosh, if Will
Speaker 1: Hardy could have just you know, absolutely, I don't know
Speaker 1: if we're having these well we're probably we're having them,
Speaker 1: but not maybe as deeply of like how screwed or
Speaker 1: the Celtics if Will Hardy's there. But uh, I still
Speaker 1: think they have a good roster. I think the East.
Speaker 1: And this is what I wanted to really dive in
Speaker 1: with you about because obviously too we know I'm a
Speaker 1: Knicks fan and this is a safe, safe chat right
Speaker 1: permission for me to talk about. Okay, I won't totally
Speaker 1: submarine the whole conversation, I promise, but the East for once,
Speaker 1: as always it's been the West for years, I think
Speaker 1: that the East. I sat down today and I really
Speaker 1: tried to figure out, Okay, we're gonna have six playoff teams.
Speaker 1: Who are they? We might be poised for a play
Speaker 1: in that will rival the actual will first round of
Speaker 1: the playoffs. So absolutely I looked at some of the team. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we have to pick six of these teams Celtics, Bucks, Sixers, Calves, Nets,
Speaker 1: he Raptors, Hawks, Bulls. I'm gonna throw in the Knicks
Speaker 1: because it's podcast, but I get it. So do you
Speaker 1: have your six yet? Is it? Or is it? There's
Speaker 1: no way to even possibly hedge because I want to
Speaker 1: know who's in the plane. I think this plane. Could
Speaker 1: you could see Knicks, Nets, Hawks, Raptors in the plane.
Speaker 1: That's insane. We might need to see like an executive
Speaker 1: decision by Adam Silver of like, hey, the plan is
Speaker 1: just going to be a best of five series, right,
Speaker 1: like no like one and like it we really should
Speaker 1: get not in the West, just in the Eastern Conference.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do this best of five. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it's if you think about it, Let's be unbiased here,
Speaker 1: Let's remove the Knicks from the conversation just for that.
Speaker 1: We'll bring them right back in. But those are you
Speaker 1: named nine really good teams? Not like oh they could
Speaker 1: like these are nine legitimately good teams. There're only eight spots.
Speaker 1: One really good team is going to be left off.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's Brooklyn because whatever chemistry issues happened this summer
Speaker 1: when coaching weirdness and everything, like, maybe that's them. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's the Raptors taking a step back. Maybe the Bulls
Speaker 1: were more fraudulent than we thought. Maybe the Calves will
Speaker 1: be injured again and Donovan Mitchell is not going to
Speaker 1: make the difference. I don't know what that's gonna end
Speaker 1: up being, but I feel confident Philly, Milwaukee, Boston, Miami.
Speaker 1: Let's lock them into four spots. After that, I would
Speaker 1: guess the Calves and the Raptors would probably round that
Speaker 1: out for me of like definites only because I don't
Speaker 1: know what Brooklyn's chemistry is gonna be. Alonzo balls injury
Speaker 1: is actually very significant for Chicago because he was a
Speaker 1: He's a big part of what they do on both
Speaker 1: ends of the floor. Um, I know his dad was annoying.
Speaker 1: Is a good dude, Like he's good, Yeah, he's really good.
Speaker 1: Some real issues physically, I hate to see that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's tough, um, Atlanta. Maybe there's some weirdness just
Speaker 1: in trying to get everyone on the same page at first.
Speaker 1: We do see some chemistry issues, but just getting that cohesiveness.
Speaker 1: But even then they might be really good right out
Speaker 1: of the gate. I don't know, And so I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think trying to predict the East of who's just
Speaker 1: going to be in that top six is really difficult.
Speaker 1: If you end up doing whatever bets you can and
Speaker 1: you end up nailing that they should just give you
Speaker 1: a vault, Like, just give you it, Like, I don't know, Like,
Speaker 1: here's a vault. We filled it up as much as
Speaker 1: we could. You get it because you guess that correctly.
Speaker 1: You don't think there's any chance and I don't. I
Speaker 1: think there's a small chance that the Heat maybe are
Speaker 1: that bubble team that falls a little only because they're
Speaker 1: a little bit older of a team. Yeah, they're a
Speaker 1: little top heavy. Uh, I don't know. I feel like
Speaker 1: they could be one injury away from like, okay, we
Speaker 1: have to scramble to get to that six C. I
Speaker 1: don't know that's the team I picked to like, actually
Speaker 1: feel more comfortable about the Raptors than the Raptors. Scare
Speaker 1: me more than the Heat. Yeah. I love this Raptors team.
Speaker 1: They're just so smart and so versatile like I and
Speaker 1: they can endure pretty much anything. Um. The thing about
Speaker 1: the Heat, though, where I don't think they'll take a
Speaker 1: step back because it it's tough that they lost p J.
Speaker 1: Tucker and didn't really replace him. They have, you know,
Speaker 1: still pretty much everyone there, but they had a lot
Speaker 1: of guys missed time last year, Jimmy but missed twenty
Speaker 1: plus games, Bam out of Bio missed twenty plus games,
Speaker 1: Kyle Lowry missed a bunch of games, like they had
Speaker 1: a lot of missed opportunities. But the reason that that
Speaker 1: team is so good, and you have to mention heat
Speaker 1: culture whenever you talk about the heat otherwise pat Riley
Speaker 1: will come and punch in the face for not saying it.
Speaker 1: But the heat culture, it really does breathe the next
Speaker 1: man up mentality, and so they do. Eric Spoelster just
Speaker 1: plugs in the next guy and they're still able to
Speaker 1: win regular season games. Maybe that doesn't make them a
Speaker 1: true contender year after year after year in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: but in the regular season, I do think they're built
Speaker 1: to endure that. Assuming guys don't miss forty games, they
Speaker 1: can probably endure twentysothing games. But forty games would start
Speaker 1: being maybe too much to make up for. He's kind
Speaker 1: of been touching on it, but I want to really
Speaker 1: dig into the Brooklyn situation because fascinating and on paper
Speaker 1: they're looking good because we could see obviously Kyrie Katie
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons. Do they contend this year? As as as
Speaker 1: you expand on this, or is Steve Nash fired at
Speaker 1: some point and we see a fire sale at the
Speaker 1: trade deadline? Yeah, I mean everything sounds good right now.
Speaker 1: They're all saying the right things, but it's easy to
Speaker 1: see the right things. Now, what happens if they lose
Speaker 1: four games in a row November or December or January.
Speaker 1: This thing isn't gonna go away. They could still be
Speaker 1: really good throughout the regular season. I mean, on paper,
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, you have Ben Simmons, you have Kyrie Irving,
Speaker 1: you have Seth Curry, you have Nick Klaxson's really good,
Speaker 1: like as in his role. You have Royce O'Neil, who's
Speaker 1: a nice pickup when they lose Bruce Brown, you have um,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm missing that's Joe Harrison be back
Speaker 1: and we know he can shoot the lights out. Like
Speaker 1: they have a really good team on paper, But you
Speaker 1: tried to get the coach and the GM fired. That
Speaker 1: has to matter. This isn't a video game like where
Speaker 1: you just okay, guys back and now here we go.
Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving should be on his best behavior because it's
Speaker 1: contract year, but it's Kyrie like that's I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know how you confident that he's gonna be out
Speaker 1: there for as someone who needs stuff to talk about
Speaker 1: every day. I love like he is a content machine
Speaker 1: for us. But you know, Kevin Durant, as great as
Speaker 1: he's been since coming back from the injuries, he still
Speaker 1: misses a bunch of time too, and that's tough to
Speaker 1: make up for. Ben Simmons is better than everyone's been,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of hammering him for over the last
Speaker 1: couple of years. He's still an All NBA defender. He's
Speaker 1: still an All NBA player. He can still get you,
Speaker 1: you know, sixteen eight and eight every single night with
Speaker 1: great defense. But is he someone that's going to be
Speaker 1: available every game after what we just saw last season?
Speaker 1: There's just so much on paper that that makes sense,
Speaker 1: and so much in the headlines that makes you just
Speaker 1: kind of cock your head like a like a German
Speaker 1: shepherd wondering if they're getting a treat or something right now,
Speaker 1: Like it's just it's such a weird thing for them.
Speaker 1: And so I don't know. You could tell me Steve
Speaker 1: Nash is gonna be coach of the Air. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: I get it. You can tell me he's gonna be
Speaker 1: fired in December, and for sure, I just don't I
Speaker 1: don't know how you predict them if it stays relatively
Speaker 1: on paper. Love their chances, but I don't feel comfortable
Speaker 1: that that's going to happen. I love their chances in
Speaker 1: the regular season. I think the Nets come out super strong.
Speaker 1: I think they make an early statement. I think they
Speaker 1: feed on some teams early. The other elephant in the room.
Speaker 1: There's lots of elephants in Brooklyn, Okay, the most elephants.
Speaker 1: I think they like, there's so many elephants involved. I'm
Speaker 1: actually like, I'm foregoing the regular season. I think they're
Speaker 1: one of those top six easily. I really do. My
Speaker 1: elephant in the room that has been Philly's elephant in
Speaker 1: the room that's now the Nets. Ben Simmons is healthy.
Speaker 1: Can you still and this is always the problem, and
Speaker 1: it remains the problem soil can you play him in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter of a playoff series? That's the issue.
Speaker 1: And if he's your third best player, which he arguably is,
Speaker 1: and we'll see as long as he's healthy, you still
Speaker 1: may have to bench your third best player in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter of a second round playoff game. I think
Speaker 1: that's the biggest hurdle that they're going to face because
Speaker 1: those questions, they are all still there since the last
Speaker 1: time we saw him play basketball was he's passing up
Speaker 1: a wide open dug. I hate to keep saying it,
Speaker 1: but the other thing is can you hit from the
Speaker 1: foul line? Which he has never proven that he could.
Speaker 1: I don't think he needs to. He just needs to
Speaker 1: not be afraid to go to the foul line. Like obviously,
Speaker 1: you don't want to miss free throws. You need to
Speaker 1: make a decent amount of them. But the reason Jannice
Speaker 1: is so well, there are a lot of reasons is
Speaker 1: so great. But one of the reasons Janice is so
Speaker 1: great is he's not a good free throw shooter, but
Speaker 1: he's not deterred from just being a battering ram and
Speaker 1: trying to knock down whatever is in front of him.
Speaker 1: Get foul, go to the free throw line. Ben Simmons
Speaker 1: isn't quite the physical specimen that Janice is, but he's
Speaker 1: six ten to forty, crazy athletic, very strong when not
Speaker 1: going against Johanne like like he's he's physically capable of
Speaker 1: doing a lot of that stuff. And yes, he may
Speaker 1: go one of two from the free throw line every
Speaker 1: single time, but the accumulation of yeah, but you get
Speaker 1: the other team in foul trouble, and then Kevin Durant
Speaker 1: draws a Tiki Tach foul, he goes to the free
Speaker 1: throw line for two. Kyrie Irving gets a Tiki Tach foul,
Speaker 1: He goes to the the free throw line for two. Like
Speaker 1: there is this effect of if Ben Simmons can realize, yes,
Speaker 1: I may be laughed at the free throw line, but
Speaker 1: overall this is going to help us. You can absolutely
Speaker 1: play him in the fourth quarter. It's when he's afraid
Speaker 1: of the contact because he doesn't want that spotlight moment
Speaker 1: of being at the free throw line. That's the trouble.
Speaker 1: Maybe he gets mitigated by the idea that Kyrie and
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant can set up the offense at any point,
Speaker 1: Seth Curry as well to a certain degree, Like they
Speaker 1: didn't really have that in Philly. Philly, they needed Ben
Speaker 1: Simmons to get everybody into their sets, so it was
Speaker 1: a little more difficult. But yeah, like, just be a
Speaker 1: battering ram. You can get laughed at, but then laugh
Speaker 1: in the next round of the playoffs at the people
Speaker 1: who are laughing at you the two things. I look
Speaker 1: at our honest two years the year before the championship
Speaker 1: here had free throw problems. He corrected those when they
Speaker 1: won the champions He's actually great from that. I think
Speaker 1: in that clinching game he's like eighteen for nineteen or
Speaker 1: something like crazy like that. So I don't know. I
Speaker 1: just look at it like when they're playing in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter of a playoff games, you're playing a team
Speaker 1: like Miami or Toronto, and they're literally you don't have
Speaker 1: to guard a player on their team. It just makes
Speaker 1: it a lot easier. I mean, you're right, Duran Kyrie
Speaker 1: could mitigate all of that, that's how good they are.
Speaker 1: But I think it's four v five until he's shown
Speaker 1: he could make one out of two free throws. I
Speaker 1: will say, like in that game seven, he did shut
Speaker 1: down trade on right like for a lot like tray
Speaker 1: On win like four for eighteen in that game, and
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons was guarding him so defensively. He's still is
Speaker 1: very significant in a very positive way. But when he says, yeah,
Speaker 1: I turned and saw a jersey saw Hawks jersey, so
Speaker 1: I decided to pass this like that. Hawks jerseys eight
Speaker 1: inches shorter than you what are you talking about? You
Speaker 1: saw Hawks Jersey? You saw over the Hawks Jersey, Like
Speaker 1: there's no way and so yeah, like he's just gonna
Speaker 1: he will have to prove whatever that meant hurdle is
Speaker 1: that he that he can clear it. Okay, let's go
Speaker 1: to the West for a little bit. Lebron James going
Speaker 1: into your twenty and I'm not sure how much this
Speaker 1: Lakers team really improved. They added Pat Beverley, who I love,
Speaker 1: but he's had a contentious history with Russ and Anthony
Speaker 1: Davis has already been out with back spasms. What's the
Speaker 1: ceiling for this team this year at one? I love
Speaker 1: that we're already getting stories of like Russ and Pattern
Speaker 1: friends now like yeah, absolutely, yeah, exactly. They're on the
Speaker 1: beach together just training like it's great. It's Apollo and
Speaker 1: Rocky all over again. Um No, Like I I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it's really good for the Lakers that Lebron
Speaker 1: is approaching this Kaream record because you can distract from
Speaker 1: all the losses with Hey, come check out Lebron James
Speaker 1: as he marches towards the all time scoring record. I
Speaker 1: don't see unless there's just a crazy rash of injuries throughout.
Speaker 1: I don't see how they finished in the top six
Speaker 1: at all unless they're very healthy. I don't see how
Speaker 1: the Lakers are even like the seven seed in the
Speaker 1: playing tournament. I think this team is gonna be really bad.
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis is not someone you can rely on to
Speaker 1: be healthy on the court. Lebron James has not been
Speaker 1: healthy and reliable to be on the court consistently since
Speaker 1: he joined the Lakers, other than the season where they
Speaker 1: won the title. Pat Beverley helps a lot. They really
Speaker 1: need a player like him. But Jovan Buja, who covers
Speaker 1: the Lakers for the Athletic this was before the Pat
Speaker 1: Beverley trade, but he was kind of looking at what
Speaker 1: they're closing lineup could be the season, and it was
Speaker 1: essentially Lebron and a d Austin Reeves want to Scano Anderson,
Speaker 1: Troy Brown Jr. Of like who he thinks Darvin Ham
Speaker 1: will trust and clutch moments. I beg any random person
Speaker 1: on the street to be able to point out Austin
Speaker 1: Reeves or Troy Brown Jr. Or want to Scano Anderson
Speaker 1: to me, like there's just like that, like good for
Speaker 1: them their NBA players. It's not like their talentless, but
Speaker 1: those are not guys who should be closing games ever,
Speaker 1: that's just not and the Lakers are gonna have to
Speaker 1: put probably two of those guys out there now that
Speaker 1: Pat Beverley is there. I just don't think I think
Speaker 1: so much. I mean, we talked about the what if game.
Speaker 1: We're like thirteen deep into the what if game to
Speaker 1: get the Lakers just to be a team that matters
Speaker 1: in a really positive way and can be a problem.
Speaker 1: Like I think at this point, anyone who's not writing
Speaker 1: them off is just that's respect out of Lebron's resume.
Speaker 1: That is respect out of watching Lebron carry teams. He
Speaker 1: can still do it offensively. He was a bad defender
Speaker 1: last year, and maybe there was no incentive to be
Speaker 1: good defensively because the rest of team was so bad.
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's reasonable to ask a guy
Speaker 1: year twenty to carry a team on both ends of
Speaker 1: the floor, and they don't really have the personnel to
Speaker 1: help out with that. Stay in l a though a
Speaker 1: team you're talking about the Lakers closing five. I can't
Speaker 1: ignore this. And it's so hard because you just never
Speaker 1: know what the health is going to be that closing
Speaker 1: five of the Clippers, which could go a few different ways.
Speaker 1: But if everyone is healthy, if you're looking at Reggie
Speaker 1: Jackson or John Wall or both, who knows whoever is
Speaker 1: playing better. You still have Luke Kenard, still have Terrence Man,
Speaker 1: Paul George Kawai. There gonna get another center to backup
Speaker 1: zoo back at some point? Is this the year we
Speaker 1: finally get the Clippers that we've been waiting for, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, the Prince that's going to save us all
Speaker 1: because we've been waiting, we haven't really seen it. We
Speaker 1: saw for a flash in the bubble and it wasn't
Speaker 1: very good. Is it happening? Unfortunately Prince is usually out
Speaker 1: because of a knee injury, right, the one that's supposed
Speaker 1: to save us, Like, that's that's the issue. Um, if
Speaker 1: you tell me, like even if you tell me like, hey,
Speaker 1: those guys are only gonna play sixty games this year,
Speaker 1: but they'll be healthy for the playoffs, I'm in right,
Speaker 1: get them healthy for the playoffs. I'm completely in on
Speaker 1: this Clippers team. I just don't know how you trust
Speaker 1: that at this point because of the injury issues. Like
Speaker 1: that team. The great thing about that Clippers roster is
Speaker 1: even when they go small, they play bit like because
Speaker 1: everyone six or eight, everyone's strong, like you, you can
Speaker 1: you can be so versatile with that group and not
Speaker 1: really lose a whole lot unless like you're going against
Speaker 1: a Yokich or an Embiide or one of those monsters centers. Yeah, exactly. Um,
Speaker 1: like you could go they could go small, even a
Speaker 1: team like the Timberwolves, and I would feel like they
Speaker 1: have the physical advantage like they It's just and they're
Speaker 1: so well coached. Tyler was such a good coach. He's
Speaker 1: been able to separate himself from well you want a
Speaker 1: title because Lebron was a player, Like, No, that dude's
Speaker 1: a good coach. You look at what that Clippers team
Speaker 1: had last year, and they were as competitive as they
Speaker 1: were with Reggie Jackson Luke Kennard as their two most
Speaker 1: consistent best players. That's great coaching. They were great defensively
Speaker 1: last year without Kauai the whole season without Paul George
Speaker 1: for a big chunk of it. That team is super deep,
Speaker 1: they're super talented. They're just super injured all the time.
Speaker 1: And so if if they're healthy, I think I think
Speaker 1: they're as good as anybody. I think they're title contenders
Speaker 1: and they can they can beat literally anybody that's thrown
Speaker 1: at them. I just I gotta see Quai out there
Speaker 1: for for the full playoffs. Yeah, if they're healthy. That
Speaker 1: closing five to me, I don't know. You can't score
Speaker 1: not and you can't stop it, like it really is
Speaker 1: that incredible. You just have to hope that, you know,
Speaker 1: Paul george Is is not clutching, he ends up with
Speaker 1: the ball. Like that's really the all you can hope for.
Speaker 1: We're gonna stay out West for a little bit longer,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna close with the Knicks. I'm just preparing
Speaker 1: everybody just two hours on the Knicks and then we're
Speaker 1: going to get right a few more minutes here and
Speaker 1: then probably till yeah, about until month, until Thursday night
Speaker 1: football kicks off and then Okay. We talked about the
Speaker 1: East being so deep, especially when you get like six
Speaker 1: through twelve almost I think that the West is not
Speaker 1: quite as deep, but they're really top heavy. But the
Speaker 1: teams that I'm looking at that I have my biggest
Speaker 1: question marks of who are you going to be this year?
Speaker 1: I think the Grizzlies are gonna be good. It's the
Speaker 1: Sun's like, has your window closed? Can you recover from
Speaker 1: that awful playoff performance that we saw? And the team
Speaker 1: I'm most excited about. We mentioned it in the football way,
Speaker 1: like the Russell Wilson trade. If you're the Pelicans, you
Speaker 1: traded Anthony Davis away. Yes, the Lakers got a bubble championship,
Speaker 1: and you have all these picks on the team that,
Speaker 1: like you said, might not be there even close to
Speaker 1: there in the end. Pelicans and the Sun's okay, where
Speaker 1: do we stack them up in the top heavy West?
Speaker 1: The Suns are still deep? Like the Jake Crowder stuff
Speaker 1: is kind of weird that like just all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: he's like he's gone right like camp, Yeah he wants
Speaker 1: to ring, and but like you should be able to
Speaker 1: win a ring in Phoenix, Like that's a good team.
Speaker 1: But also DeAndre Aton and Monte Williams didn't talk like
Speaker 1: it was media days, Like I haven't talked to him
Speaker 1: since Game seven. I haven't talked to coaching game seven.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. You signed a hundred and thirty million dollar
Speaker 1: deal with them. I mean you had you were forced
Speaker 1: into it because of the restrictive free agency. But like
Speaker 1: you signed a deal and you didn't hear from him,
Speaker 1: or you didn't like choose to hit him back or
Speaker 1: something like that, Like that's crazy, and so there could
Speaker 1: be some real chemistry problems. Also, we have to be
Speaker 1: aware that as great as Chris Paul is, the deeper
Speaker 1: you get into a marriage with him in the NBA,
Speaker 1: whether it's the Clippers or the Hornets, Pelicans or whatever, like,
Speaker 1: as the years go on, he starts grading on his
Speaker 1: teammates like he just does, and so that's got to
Speaker 1: be coming at some point. Even for a group like that,
Speaker 1: Phoenix should still be regular season good, playoff good like that.
Speaker 1: You know, may be you know, there are reports that
Speaker 1: they had they got hit with COVID right before Game seven,
Speaker 1: and so maybe that really affected it. I don't know
Speaker 1: what to make out of that collapse. But you lose
Speaker 1: bys at home for a game seven, like there there's
Speaker 1: some issues there and so they can get over it.
Speaker 1: But the Pelicans, this is an important thing to remember
Speaker 1: about the Pelicans. They got off to an awful start
Speaker 1: last season because of injuries, because of a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: The last sixty three games of the year, they were
Speaker 1: thirty three and thirty like they were above five hundred
Speaker 1: team for most of year, but they had a losing
Speaker 1: record because the start was so bad. Willie Green can coach,
Speaker 1: he can flat out coach. There's a lot of talent
Speaker 1: on that team. They played a lot of rookies last year,
Speaker 1: a lot of young guys, and they got They soaked
Speaker 1: up all that experience. They figured out how to fit
Speaker 1: their role. And now you bring Zion back. We have
Speaker 1: to remember Zion is a monster. His second year in
Speaker 1: the NBA is something nobody had done. Twenty seven points
Speaker 1: a game on six shooting. Will didn't do that, Ron
Speaker 1: didn't do that, Shock didn't do that, Jordan didn't do
Speaker 1: no one had done that in their second year except
Speaker 1: for Zion. Like he is an absolute scoring machine and
Speaker 1: he doesn't really know what he's doing out there. So
Speaker 1: as he gets more experienced with those guys, it's just
Speaker 1: gonna be scary. You have to worry about injuries because C. J.
Speaker 1: McCollums had injury issues, Ingram's head injury issues obviously Zion,
Speaker 1: but that team is so good. Like if you told
Speaker 1: me you're back from the future and you saw and
Speaker 1: there were the second seed in the West, I believe
Speaker 1: it like they're they're going to be so good. Herb
Speaker 1: Jones alert, we did not mention herb Jones. We love her. Yeah, sorry,
Speaker 1: I don't want Pelicans Twitter to be at her Jones
Speaker 1: the Alvarado Treby. Yeah, all those guys, they're all good. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: obviously we're a betting show and live down. Church is
Speaker 1: the m v P favorite at plus four hundred, followed
Speaker 1: by Joel at plus six undred than Janice plus six fifty.
Speaker 1: Who is your super early MVP favorite? If someone calls
Speaker 1: back from the future tells you who want it all? Uh,
Speaker 1: isn't it crazy? Yokich isn't up there at all? Like
Speaker 1: back to back m vps. They're gonna be really good,
Speaker 1: Like they're gonna probably win sixty games if they can
Speaker 1: stay healthy like it, but he would have to he might.
Speaker 1: I think I think Himbat is an interesting pick. There
Speaker 1: can I go off the board like super Dark off Menu.
Speaker 1: We love off Menu. The media loves him. They're gonna
Speaker 1: have a bounce back year. He puts up great stats.
Speaker 1: He's almost infallible as a guy in terms of reputation.
Speaker 1: Damian Lillard could be the MVP if they finished. If
Speaker 1: they finished sixth in the West, which usually have to
Speaker 1: be higher than that. But like that team, that team
Speaker 1: had the most loss so before last season, the record
Speaker 1: for most thirty point losses in the season was ten,
Speaker 1: but I think like the ninety one Nuggets or something
Speaker 1: like that, they had fifteen last year. They shattered the record,
Speaker 1: like they tanked so hard or sorry they played young guys, right,
Speaker 1: you have to be careful about how you've heard that
Speaker 1: they lost so hard the second half of the season
Speaker 1: and kind of intentionally once they realized like they didn't
Speaker 1: have they traded off guys. Dame sat out like all
Speaker 1: that stuff. This team's gonna bounce back. They made great
Speaker 1: offseason moves. If they're like forty eight and thirty four
Speaker 1: and sixth or fifth in the West. Ever, like Dame
Speaker 1: is going to have a monster campaign to have. Like
Speaker 1: if I'm going away from the favorites, like Dame would
Speaker 1: be the guy that I throw out there as my
Speaker 1: dark horse. I'm trying to find his odds, like they're
Speaker 1: so down the list that I really think he could
Speaker 1: be a massive, massive pick. I'm taking it because also
Speaker 1: to I even just someone was just talking about like
Speaker 1: the catch and shoot stats from like Simon's when playing
Speaker 1: with Dave and like CJ mccollo, CJ has been great
Speaker 1: without Dame, but he does make everyone better as well.
Speaker 1: If we could see a healthy nurkics healthy nurk Jeremy
Speaker 1: Grants there, they picked up gart was a heart's a
Speaker 1: great addition. Not here little had a really good year
Speaker 1: like that. That team, that team is going to be good,
Speaker 1: like we got Gary Payton. Yeah, it's funny with we
Speaker 1: talked about so much about like, oh, what could the
Speaker 1: Lakers be? What could the Lakers be? I don't think
Speaker 1: the Lakers are better than Portland's. Like that's the thing, Like,
Speaker 1: I think this Portland team is gonna be good. Zack,
Speaker 1: I'm all on that bet. None of this this like
Speaker 1: it's wrong on that best odds in the NBA at
Speaker 1: plus five thousand plus. Oh all over it? All right, Okay,
Speaker 1: can you guys indulge me now for five minutes before
Speaker 1: we let Zach go? No, no, I don't you jump
Speaker 1: in here, Olivia. You should absolutely criticize me. Right, last
Speaker 1: I spoke to our friend Zach Harper. You were weren't
Speaker 1: you hosting for Envy? Yeah? Radio? Right? So yes, I
Speaker 1: was on promoting this very podcast, And I think it
Speaker 1: was Zach who asked me or someone who if you
Speaker 1: had to make your pitch to Donovan Mitchell of like
Speaker 1: why New York I went on this rant. It actually
Speaker 1: was all over Twitter the next day. It was one
Speaker 1: of my better rants about someone's gonna bring a title
Speaker 1: to the Knicks. It was minutes, so we had to
Speaker 1: blow past all these commercial breaks. It was fantastic. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So now, like every Nick van it's like the girl
Speaker 1: who turned me down when I asked her to dance,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like she wasn't really all that anyway.
Speaker 1: I'm sort of doing that with the Donovan Mitchell trade. Like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm glad the Nicks didn't trade for Donovan Mitchell.
Speaker 1: Look at all the young pieces we got in hindsight
Speaker 1: and they'll play itself out. Should the Knicks have thrown
Speaker 1: the whole farm at Donovan Mitchell? I still say no,
Speaker 1: but I'm jaded, Yeah, I mean for what he ended
Speaker 1: up going for, I mean what it was rumored. Like
Speaker 1: when they're saying like it's got to be even a
Speaker 1: greater draft haul than than what they got for Gobert. No,
Speaker 1: you don't do that for Donovan Mitchell for what had
Speaker 1: ended up being Colin Sexton Larry Marking in three picks
Speaker 1: in a swap. Yeah, I like, I think it's doable.
Speaker 1: The argument against it is he doesn't really fit with
Speaker 1: what they have, and my view of like, well create
Speaker 1: something better than what you have, like what you have
Speaker 1: just got to like yeah, I mean, like everything's gonna matter,
Speaker 1: like whether they got Dono Mitchell or not, everything's gonna
Speaker 1: matter on who is Julius Randle this year? That is
Speaker 1: the he sucked last year. He was so bad, Like
Speaker 1: that's probably the worst we've ever seen him play. He
Speaker 1: was fighting with fans like it, like that was that
Speaker 1: was as hopefully as rock bottom as it gets for him,
Speaker 1: especially on that stage with that media and that scrutiny
Speaker 1: and everything. If he bounces back, that's gonna be a
Speaker 1: really nice team. I love the Gym and Brunson pick up.
Speaker 1: Like I'm not a Big four guy, so that's gonna
Speaker 1: you know, that's gonna be tough. But I love R. J. Barrett.
Speaker 1: I thought that the deal they gave him was really smart,
Speaker 1: really good, and it's easy for him to justify that.
Speaker 1: The young guys the bench has been a strength for them.
Speaker 1: I think the question I have the most with them
Speaker 1: is outside of Julius Randall is probably like, just what's
Speaker 1: Tom Thibodeau gonna do? Is his leash very short with
Speaker 1: the front office? Or is he gonna be allowed to
Speaker 1: coach his way? Is he gonna play the young guys,
Speaker 1: which historically he does not or does he recognize? Like no,
Speaker 1: these are the the guys that galvanized that second unit,
Speaker 1: and these are the guys that are going to make
Speaker 1: a big difference for them. What's Mitchell Robinson gonna be? Defensively,
Speaker 1: the idea of him is great. The application of him
Speaker 1: has been a lot of jumping at nothing and then
Speaker 1: you got an easy road the basket Like I probably
Speaker 1: would have traded for Donovan Mitchell because as good as
Speaker 1: I think Quentin Grimes can be or any of those
Speaker 1: young guys, Donovan Mitchell is that it's the whole family
Speaker 1: guy thing of would you like the boat or the
Speaker 1: mystery boxes? Like the mystery box could be anything. It
Speaker 1: could be a boat, like you know, or you could
Speaker 1: just have the boat right like I would rather the
Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell and try to grow and build outside of that.
Speaker 1: But I understand why they didn't do it. You just
Speaker 1: have to hope that everything gels together, because that's another
Speaker 1: team with a lot of what ifs. So I believe
Speaker 1: they're over under thirty eight and a half win total
Speaker 1: for the Knicks. If I'm if I'm off, or if
Speaker 1: it's changed, that's the last time I remember looking, so
Speaker 1: say it is thirty eight. Now, I'm gonna make a
Speaker 1: little bit of a case before you give your answer.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you go with the old But I think,
Speaker 1: and again total Homer, I think the Knicks are closer
Speaker 1: to the four seed from two years ago than they
Speaker 1: are whatever they were the eleventh seed this year. My
Speaker 1: reasons being they legitimately did not have a point guard
Speaker 1: last year. Derek Rose missed a ton of time, even
Speaker 1: like the stability of Alfred Peyton to start, but Derrick
Speaker 1: Rose played a majority of the minutes. You know, Alec
Speaker 1: Brooks was running point guard. I think Alec Brooks was
Speaker 1: the most mistreated player in the NBA. People were criticizing
Speaker 1: his numbers. He was playing point guard a majority of
Speaker 1: the time. That's not what he should be. So I
Speaker 1: think having Brunson, having Rose and that stability of actually
Speaker 1: having real point guards. If they could stay healthy, I
Speaker 1: think they make that over easy and really compete for
Speaker 1: the sixth seed. And I think there're a lock for
Speaker 1: the plane. If you had a guess right now, thirty
Speaker 1: eight and a half over under Nick's total barring relative health, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you have to say right now? I would guess,
Speaker 1: like I think that's about aim, But I mean it's
Speaker 1: this is this is why the oddsmakers are so good,
Speaker 1: right because I look at thirty and a half, great number,
Speaker 1: real to number, Like how do I push on thirty
Speaker 1: and a half? Like how can they get a half way?
Speaker 1: Like that feels about right to me, like relative health,
Speaker 1: Like that should be a five hundred team. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of talent. I don't know how that talent fits together.
Speaker 1: That's the issue, right, Like, I don't know how much
Speaker 1: of that fits together. But there's a lot of talent
Speaker 1: on that team. And maybe I'm just like I've always
Speaker 1: been an R J. Barrett guy, so I think that
Speaker 1: kind of colors me a little bit. I think he's
Speaker 1: been misused. I think I think Tips could could use
Speaker 1: him a lot better as an initiator. But that team
Speaker 1: should be at worst tenth in the East in the
Speaker 1: playing tournament, ready to go, Like they should be better
Speaker 1: than Washington, they should be better than Charlotte, especially with
Speaker 1: this LaMelo ball injury and everything that happened with Miles Bridges.
Speaker 1: They should be you know, Detroit with the Bogdanovitch pick up,
Speaker 1: Like that's an interesting one to me, but that's still
Speaker 1: a very young team. Young cores don't generally win. Orlando
Speaker 1: not gonna do anything like that. They should be there
Speaker 1: for the ten spot at worse. But again, like after
Speaker 1: what happened last year, there is some even for a
Speaker 1: non Nick supporter, like there's some PTSD of trying to
Speaker 1: believe in that team. But I have to believe that
Speaker 1: Tom Thibodeau is going to get them at least back
Speaker 1: to the defensive part that they should be at, Like
Speaker 1: that should be something that's a give in for them
Speaker 1: and and if they're healthy, like that shouldn't be h
Speaker 1: an issue. Like how they scored the end of games,
Speaker 1: I can see that being an issue, but that should
Speaker 1: still be a good defensive team. Look at Jerry satisfied
Speaker 1: little smile. I am satisfied as I as I thought
Speaker 1: that he just text you Nick's articles of like maybe
Speaker 1: we talked about this on the hasn't even started yet, Zack,
Speaker 1: this is our first real NBA conversation. We started this
Speaker 1: podcast seven weeks ago. It's been all NFL. That's why
Speaker 1: when I knew you were coming on. You are one
Speaker 1: of my favorite people to talk hoops with. We've been
Speaker 1: talking hoops for years and reading all your stuff. Okay,
Speaker 1: last thing. It starts for you Tuesday. You're entering your
Speaker 1: busy season. Not that you weren't busy coming up, but
Speaker 1: we're in season. What gave you more excited for Tuesday,
Speaker 1: October eighteen six? Their Celtics, which is a great one,
Speaker 1: Lakers Warriors, just from like a storyline where it's you know,
Speaker 1: we're starting the holiday season. What are you more excited
Speaker 1: to watch on that opening Tuesday night. I want to
Speaker 1: see the good games Lake his Warriors, That's what I
Speaker 1: want to say. I mean the Draymond stuff alone. Is
Speaker 1: he gonna be allowed to be a ring night or
Speaker 1: is he gonna be suspended? Like he's like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take some time away from the team, Like take some
Speaker 1: time away, buddy, this season starting, Like I don't know
Speaker 1: what that means. I don't know if that means he's
Speaker 1: suspended yet, or they're gonna like still try to figure
Speaker 1: out where the suspension should be. If they're dangling this
Speaker 1: like who leaked the video thing as a distraction, Like
Speaker 1: I don't know what that's gonna be. I don't know
Speaker 1: if they let him come for ring night and they
Speaker 1: just wheel him out there like Hannibal Lecter and then
Speaker 1: wheel him back into the into the tunnel, like I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know how you handle that. I
Speaker 1: could see, you know, remember do you remember when we
Speaker 1: had like the gun story with the Wizard's locker room
Speaker 1: and Gilbert Arenas and then when he finally got back
Speaker 1: out on the court, they like do the pregame huddle
Speaker 1: and everything, and he like does finger guns? Like does
Speaker 1: if Draymond gets his ring on the eighteenth, does he
Speaker 1: go out there and like fake square up with Joe
Speaker 1: lake Ub and like do like a fun little thing,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know what. I don't like. It's Draymond.
Speaker 1: Anything could happen. And then you get to the game itself.
Speaker 1: It's Lebron and a d It's Pat Beverley trying to
Speaker 1: annoy Steph Curry. Clay Thompson's back to full health like that.
Speaker 1: You know, the young guys were like co In good
Speaker 1: Moody and Wiseman's Wiggins k pop Star. Now like there's
Speaker 1: just so many storylines for that game and and so
Speaker 1: like and that's the one. And also like you know, selfishly,
Speaker 1: I'm a West Coast guy. I love watching East Coasters
Speaker 1: complaining about the times of everything with the ring ceremony everything,
Speaker 1: The ring ceremony is gonna push that game way back.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be asleep by halfway through the second quarter
Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna be eating popcorn and loving the game.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm I'm excited about that Lakers Warriors matchup. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Patrick Beverley is definitely gonna go at the Jordan Pool
Speaker 1: and you have not the He's going to try to
Speaker 1: legitimately bully Jordan Pool that night. Like there, there's gonna
Speaker 1: be a whole whole thing there. Oh I can not
Speaker 1: wait coming to Zack. Thank you so much. I'm so
Speaker 1: happy we had a basketball conversation. Please come back on
Speaker 1: as we actually have some real data to discuss and
Speaker 1: real wins and losses and uh yeah, get ready, your
Speaker 1: busy season is upon you. Yeah, no one's gonna pay
Speaker 1: attention until after football done, but the NBA. It's fantastic.
Speaker 1: I will go next, all right. You can follow him
Speaker 1: on Twitter at Talk Hoops and read his NBA insight
Speaker 1: on the athletic all season back. Thanks again, thanks guys
Speaker 1: for sure yea a figure since we are kind of
Speaker 1: knee deep now and NBA stuff, which is so fun
Speaker 1: season starting soon. I know Mark Cuban has been involved
Speaker 1: with Entourage, now you know I haven't gotten there yet.
Speaker 1: Is he a guest on the show? I take it. Yes,
Speaker 1: Mark Cuban comes on show, he plays himself, he plays
Speaker 1: Mark Cuban. Yes. Uh. And he's actually even said over
Speaker 1: the years, I think that's helped what what's helped lead
Speaker 1: him to Shark tank and kind of being And yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he's said. I hope I'm not miss quoting him,
Speaker 1: but yeah, Mark Cuban has been on a bunch of times.
Speaker 1: I've acted with Mark Cubans several times, allage elsewhere, all
Speaker 1: all on Entourage, and one thing stands out with him
Speaker 1: that I always remember was like the coolest thing and
Speaker 1: I really wish I could have followed him. So it
Speaker 1: might have been his first day, maybe second day, and
Speaker 1: we're doing this scene. I don't want to spoil too
Speaker 1: much for you. I won't talk really what the scenes about.
Speaker 1: It's him me. I think Kevin Dillon might have been
Speaker 1: in it, and Bob Odenkirk actually who plays Saul on
Speaker 1: Better Call sauls plays Mark Cubans like financial advisor. Right,
Speaker 1: So the show's gone, and this is two thousand eleven,
Speaker 1: I guess it was. Whenever Lebron signed with the Heat
Speaker 1: was two thousand eleven, right, So yeah, so that day
Speaker 1: at nine pm Pacific was when Free Agency officially opened up.
Speaker 1: That day we were shooting, so and I just thought
Speaker 1: that was really and obviously Lebron being the greatest prize
Speaker 1: for any franchise. So we're doing scenes and in between
Speaker 1: takes Cube and like looking at his phone or whatever,
Speaker 1: and then we're telling he's like and he's the one
Speaker 1: who tells me like, yeah, guys, just so you know,
Speaker 1: at nine o'clock Pacific time, I'm I have to I'm
Speaker 1: walking out that door because I have phone calls to make.
Speaker 1: And obviously we're totally cool with that. So just because
Speaker 1: of the trickle effect, like he didn't think he was
Speaker 1: getting Lebron, he just didn't know how the dominoes were
Speaker 1: going to fall up after I think at that point
Speaker 1: it was it was like early on, and I think
Speaker 1: all the rumors were it was obviously the Nicks thought
Speaker 1: they had shot. He's not staying with the Cavs, or
Speaker 1: maybe the Cavs. The MAVs were certainly in the at
Speaker 1: least the public conversation. Who knows what was the real
Speaker 1: deal behind the scenes. So we finish our stuff. Now
Speaker 1: what you do when you're shooting, right you Obviously it's
Speaker 1: called sides, Like I'm on one side, Cubans on the other.
Speaker 1: So they shoot all of marks stuff first on his side,
Speaker 1: so all his stuff is in the can. We have it,
Speaker 1: but I still have to get all my stuff. And
Speaker 1: it's approaching nine o'clock. So he's done. He's app I
Speaker 1: am now going to do my scene with like a
Speaker 1: green tennis ball on the other side. Yes, but listen,
Speaker 1: Normally that's like an acting no no, Like you show
Speaker 1: up for your off camera work. As an actor, you
Speaker 1: give it up even more from your off camera because
Speaker 1: you want to help get the good performance. In this case,
Speaker 1: because I'm such a basketball head, I didn't get whatever
Speaker 1: you could put anything in front of me. I'll get
Speaker 1: the scene done. So as he's leaving and he's like
Speaker 1: getting into his car and he's like, so, I'm like, Mark,
Speaker 1: who's your first call? And he's smiles like maybe maybe Lebron.
Speaker 1: I don't know, we'll call Lebron. But I also think
Speaker 1: Dirk was doing a deal too, so he's like, no,
Speaker 1: I gotta call him, calling Dirk first, finishing up dirt,
Speaker 1: and like he's getting in his car on a cell phone,
Speaker 1: and I just thought to myself, Man, that's gonna be
Speaker 1: so cool. Clock strikes nine midnight, East Coast. He's in
Speaker 1: a car and he's like, who he's called Dirk, He's
Speaker 1: called Lebron's people. He's just gonna roll calls. And I
Speaker 1: wanted to be in that car as his like assistant
Speaker 1: or something, just watching that all unfold. So one of
Speaker 1: the few times you're allowed to break that acting rule
Speaker 1: of not doing your off camera. I've seen other people
Speaker 1: break it, not for nearly as good as rules as
Speaker 1: Mark Cuban. Man, I never knew that was a thing,
Speaker 1: and I guess naivete I would think everyone's just standing there.
Speaker 1: I would think there'd be two cameras facing like each
Speaker 1: other like that but I just would have thought it
Speaker 1: was done in one fell swoop. But you really do
Speaker 1: like one half all the lines, the other half all
Speaker 1: the lines. Yeah. I love behind the scenes stuff like
Speaker 1: this because in TV, like in sports, like even on
Speaker 1: sports broadcast, we have some hidden tricks as well. But
Speaker 1: you know this isn't about that. This is about entourage.
Speaker 1: When we're done with Entorage and we're gonna do our
Speaker 1: sideline reporting stuff because I have question that's something I'm
Speaker 1: super fascinated by and I would love to pick your
Speaker 1: brain about. And I think the audience you want to
Speaker 1: know too. Okay, you do that. So obviously our go
Speaker 1: to bet MGM betting expert Peter Andrew. We talked last week.
Speaker 1: He was getting married this past weekend, and you know,
Speaker 1: we just want to let him live a little. Let's
Speaker 1: let's not bother him. So we're giving him the week off.
Speaker 1: But Jerry, you've got some bets you've put together and
Speaker 1: I think even built a little parlay right. Yeah, you know, Look,
Speaker 1: I do not claim to be any kind of Peter Andrew.
Speaker 1: We love him, we miss him, but he's he's in
Speaker 1: a better place. He's a married guy now. Who knows
Speaker 1: where he is he's in a better place. But I
Speaker 1: do have some games. I'm not gonna bore you with
Speaker 1: my three team ten point teasers that I've been hitting
Speaker 1: every single week. I'm five and oh in three team
Speaker 1: ten point teasers, but those are risky. Those are very
Speaker 1: risky and not always the smartest thing. I'm gonna stick
Speaker 1: with Peter's format, and Olivia, please critique or jump in
Speaker 1: if you have an argument or a better option. Look,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to do this to your Packers. I actually
Speaker 1: like the Packers to win, but I'm putting three units
Speaker 1: on the New York that's plus seven. I think that's
Speaker 1: I think that's like a four point or less game.
Speaker 1: I think that's a final possession game. I think the
Speaker 1: Packers cruise. I think the Jets come back around and
Speaker 1: make it close. I just don't know if you could
Speaker 1: blow the Jets out at this point. They're too frisky.
Speaker 1: So I like three units on that. And second bet,
Speaker 1: here's a team that I've been all on for the
Speaker 1: first five weeks and they've completely screwed me every single time.
Speaker 1: So this is a bit reactionary, but also I love
Speaker 1: what I'm seeing for the Patriots. The Patriots plus three
Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Now, I know that's you know, that's the
Speaker 1: home field three points that we're talking about there. I
Speaker 1: really like what I see from the Patriots defense, their
Speaker 1: run game. I don't think it really matters what quarterback DApp.
Speaker 1: I think this is a Bill Belichick special. I think
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick likes coaching a Patriots team like this more
Speaker 1: than oh seven when they're putting up seventy points a
Speaker 1: game with Tom Brady and Randy Moss. I think he
Speaker 1: loves this and also talk about revenge game, which we
Speaker 1: don't believe. In the Cleveland Browns fired Bill Belichick. We
Speaker 1: remember this, so if anyone has an extra grind, I
Speaker 1: think Bill Belichick is gonna step on the gas here.
Speaker 1: And if you could get them plus there, what's the
Speaker 1: worst thing that happens. I think maybe the Browns win
Speaker 1: by a field goal, which they have not proven they
Speaker 1: could do. So three units on the on the Patriots.
Speaker 1: I really truly do love that. And Okay, I do
Speaker 1: not normally like going with the Big Bills Chiefs matchup.
Speaker 1: We all know that's gonna be a heavyweight showdown rematch
Speaker 1: from the a f C championship game, and what a
Speaker 1: game it was Chiefs are plus three at home. Now,
Speaker 1: if we're taking in the three points for the home field,
Speaker 1: we're saying that the Bills are six points better than
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. I think anytime you can get the Chiefs
Speaker 1: as an underdog at home. I think there were three units,
Speaker 1: and again I think that's a safe number because I
Speaker 1: do think this could be another field goal game. So
Speaker 1: I like the Chiefs plus three for my three units.
Speaker 1: So that's nine. And now I don't have the Peter
Speaker 1: Andrews single game parlay because I don't really you know,
Speaker 1: some of the Thursday Night lines are just kind coming
Speaker 1: to us. Also, good luck figuring out a single game
Speaker 1: parlay with the Commanders and the Bears. But I have
Speaker 1: a part lay, and I don't know how you're gonna
Speaker 1: like it. I like the Commanders plus one. I know
Speaker 1: that's crazy to think. And I also like the over
Speaker 1: thirty eight, something that I don't think anyone's gonna be on.
Speaker 1: I think for a one unit parlay, Commanders plus one
Speaker 1: over thirty eight points, I think these teams are gonna
Speaker 1: score some points. I think the Commanders have fourteen garbage
Speaker 1: points in them easily, and I think the Bears figured
Speaker 1: out some things with you. The Bears were in that game,
Speaker 1: the Bears. That dude got the ball ripped out of
Speaker 1: his hand. Well, the Bears were driving down field to
Speaker 1: go ahead or tie that game. So I think the
Speaker 1: Bears figured some stuff out, and I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be awful game to watch. I go Commanders plus one
Speaker 1: over thirty eight. I think it'll be an awful game.
Speaker 1: I think you're right. These are two of the NFL's
Speaker 1: lowest scoring teams. I mean, you said that's a low number.
Speaker 1: Over on the right now is thirty eight? I know that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm on the over. No. I feel like this will
Speaker 1: be like at two seven game like this is you
Speaker 1: don't think Ron Rivera calling out Carson Wentz saying, what's
Speaker 1: the problem with your team? Guys winning very I do
Speaker 1: love one thing the NFL has been awesome about this year.
Speaker 1: The quarterback play, with the exception of seven guys, has
Speaker 1: been pretty atrocious. You've got Brady calling out the bad football.
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera is called guys getting called out all over
Speaker 1: the place. I love it. The backup too, Like we
Speaker 1: talked about Geno earlier. I mean he wasn't the backup,
Speaker 1: but we talked about guys who we didn't think we'd
Speaker 1: be talked about in October, Cooper Rush and Ken you
Speaker 1: Pickett we didn't think would be starting Missing Olivia. I
Speaker 1: have a hard time naming the best fifteen. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: best fifteen quarterbacks in the NFL. I think you run
Speaker 1: out of gas at like eight, right when you get
Speaker 1: to the eighth quarterback, which is probably maybe borrow at
Speaker 1: what you start going like, I guess it is it,
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, No, it's not, it's not down. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: you know I'm with you on all of them, except
Speaker 1: in this gonna sound Homer and there's no cheese on
Speaker 1: the head involved here, but Jets I I think this
Speaker 1: could be a bigger game. I think the reason I
Speaker 1: say that is I feel like Aaron's really good following
Speaker 1: a loss and coming back home. I feel like they're
Speaker 1: going to really stick it to him. And what he
Speaker 1: says seven points, So I know you're want the bet,
Speaker 1: you want to go extra do I dare I guess
Speaker 1: another New York team death wish? Oh all right, hey, Peter,
Speaker 1: better be careful. You did a pretty good job feeling
Speaker 1: in a slot. Yeah. If I run the table right here,
Speaker 1: Peter Andrew, you might be out of a podcast job.
Speaker 1: The best wish is all the best to your guys. Okay,
Speaker 1: as I run to the shower to wash the smell
Speaker 1: of cheese out of my hair, Jerry, congratulations, this was
Speaker 1: basically your best show yet with all the nixt talk
Speaker 1: and winning the bet. I bet you're feeling on top
Speaker 1: of the world. I feel the top of the world
Speaker 1: because we just talked some hoops. We got football coming
Speaker 1: up this weekend, and we get to talk to Kevin
Speaker 1: Garnett next week. Kevin Garnett KG, the big ticket, the
Speaker 1: big ticket. You know who gave him that nickname, my dad.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that next week. More on that next
Speaker 1: week for sure. See all then,