WEBVTT - NBA Preview with Zach Harper

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<v Speaker 1>From the King of sports Books comes the Key sports

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<v Speaker 1>podcast Unleashed, presented by the MGM. Here's your host, Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>Ferrara and Olivia Harlan Decker. Welcome to Gosh. How do

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<v Speaker 1>I say this? An interesting episode of Unleashed, A sad

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<v Speaker 1>episode of Unleashed, and very more than anything unprobable episode

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<v Speaker 1>of Unleashed. And our loyal listeners know exactly what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. They know that I lost a bet that

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of sentiment involved in a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassment at stake. Oh my god, Jerry, and here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot believe it. Yeah, just to reflect for a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>I did not want to make this bet with you,

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<v Speaker 1>Olivia Harland Decker. I did not want to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>For number one, I didn't want to wear cheese on

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<v Speaker 1>my head. I just didn't. And number two I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>I really thought we were most likely going to lose.

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<v Speaker 1>But now you, on the other hand, and if you're

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<v Speaker 1>just catching up with us this week and didn't here

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<v Speaker 1>last week, you know, Olivia die Hard Packers band made

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<v Speaker 1>a bet and you actually even threw me the points

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<v Speaker 1>out of pity. I asked for the points bread and

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<v Speaker 1>you said, yeah, all right whatever at a pity, that

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<v Speaker 1>was my only hope and we went down big. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to wear cheese on your head this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have really nice hair, so I'm worried about

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just worried, and I feel bad for your husband

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<v Speaker 1>saying like you're gonna you smell like cheese tonight. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of things. You're nice to say that, because

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<v Speaker 1>my postpartum hair loss would beg to differ. Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>also did not do my hair tonight, so I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>much anticipating my post show shower. And also Sam is

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<v Speaker 1>out of town playing a game, so no one else

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<v Speaker 1>is going to even be close to this head of hair.

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<v Speaker 1>In mind, my baby, you'll be asleep. So, um, this

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<v Speaker 1>is just for you, Jerry. One wash or to wash it?

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<v Speaker 1>You go two washes? Maybe well wash in the condition

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<v Speaker 1>you maybe do a wash in a little condition or treatment. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>to be fair, I get that the whole cheesehead thing

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<v Speaker 1>is an easy thing to make fun of. I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Packer fans are self aware that it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a stupid thing. Believe me, I heard a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of that overseas for the Packers Giants game. Obviously, in London.

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<v Speaker 1>I live in London. I went there and there were

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<v Speaker 1>some I think did I tag you? And one of

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<v Speaker 1>them are you sent it to me? Of Giants fans

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<v Speaker 1>sheering about the cheese after yes, they with some curse

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<v Speaker 1>words about the cheese. Roll that clip in here. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>roll that clip in here because I want everyone to

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<v Speaker 1>know who Giants fans really are. That was mean. That

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<v Speaker 1>was nasty, too godly the whole thing though, Jerry, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm eating my words. I thought there was no chance

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<v Speaker 1>in hell this would happen. I really didn't. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>I was giving you such a hard time last week,

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<v Speaker 1>and to be quite honest, it really shouldn't have it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm as shocked as anyone, only because the Giants are

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<v Speaker 1>obviously decimated with injuries. There was Marcus Johnson I think

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<v Speaker 1>his name is. I didn't even know who that dude was, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I was googling him during the game. Yeah, I just did.

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<v Speaker 1>You were players I had to do. I had to

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<v Speaker 1>do quick Google checks on. But I do kind of

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are all to blame because here's my issue

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm having with Like the Packers, obviously, I love

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers. He's amazing quarterback. You have two really, really

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<v Speaker 1>good running backs, and I know the Giants defense was

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<v Speaker 1>stout and we were keen in a little bit, but

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<v Speaker 1>still to go away from them on those third and

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<v Speaker 1>fourth down plays, to not even really get the ball

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<v Speaker 1>in their hands or even the third n I get

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers is your your best player. You gotta put

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<v Speaker 1>the ball in his hands. But still your two running

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<v Speaker 1>backs are dynamic. I thought we would have saw. I

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<v Speaker 1>was most afraid of a j. Dillon and of Aaron Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not afraid of any of your receivers. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>In the past, obviously, Davante Adams scared the life out

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<v Speaker 1>of me. There is not one receiver on the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>that I was fearful. And we lost our number one quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>A Dory Jackson too, went went out in the first quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>And I still wasn't afraid of any of your receivers.

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<v Speaker 1>You need like a redo because Davante Adams had some

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<v Speaker 1>issues the other night. He doesn't look too happy. Get

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<v Speaker 1>him bad, you need him bad. Honestly, he should be.

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<v Speaker 1>He should be in Green Bay. Still, I just love

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<v Speaker 1>how much show you're eating up without making me put

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<v Speaker 1>this cheese in my head. Let's talk it, let's go now.

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<v Speaker 1>I did spare you. We talked off air. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want I don't I could do no fondue or anything,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, let's just keep it simple. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>cheddar guy. You know it smells, but it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>God awful. So do you have? What do you have

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<v Speaker 1>in your possession? So you texted me I could just

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<v Speaker 1>get away with some you know, either slices or spring

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<v Speaker 1>goals of just cheddar, and you kept you again, You're

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<v Speaker 1>going very easy on me, so I appreciate that. So

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<v Speaker 1>in my fridge I looked and Sam maybe wondering what

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<v Speaker 1>happened to our cheese. This is British cheddar, perfect for cooking,

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<v Speaker 1>and it expires today. Oh God, are you going to

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<v Speaker 1>keep this on for the whole shell? Um? Not for

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<v Speaker 1>the interview? All right? I asked for that because I

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<v Speaker 1>thought we were interviewing Kevin Garnett. Today. We're actually interviewing

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Garnett I believe next week, which is awesome. But

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<v Speaker 1>today we have Zach Harper because we're gonna get to

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<v Speaker 1>talk some NBA action, which I can't believe. That's finally

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<v Speaker 1>here I can't believe. I know, I know, we can't wait.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so much to get to. Okay, all right, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>she reaches in the bad folks out most disturbing because

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<v Speaker 1>I have a babysitter right now watching the baby, and

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<v Speaker 1>I really hope them come out and sees what my

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<v Speaker 1>work really. Oh that's a good. Oh my gosh, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel bad. I feel bad. I know. Okay, so there's

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<v Speaker 1>all right. Well, look, you cannot say Olivia Harland Decker

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<v Speaker 1>does not pay her debts. She pays her debts. She's

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<v Speaker 1>currently Yeah. Well, I'm sure we'll have these will be

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<v Speaker 1>breakout clips, so we'll have this on blame the play calling.

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<v Speaker 1>Should have got the ball a j and Aaron a

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<v Speaker 1>little more. Oh, it doesn't all that. We gotta be

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<v Speaker 1>a little careful with these, with these bets going forward,

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<v Speaker 1>because but you know what, you know what, we'll end

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<v Speaker 1>it with this. We'll move on from the bed after this.

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<v Speaker 1>I reversed. Jings to you, Allah, Peter Andrew. Peter Andrew,

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<v Speaker 1>but you you were a heavy favor going in, and

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<v Speaker 1>you are pushing the envelope on what this bet wants.

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<v Speaker 1>So let this be a lesson in our next future. Bets.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we just go a little easier on each other.

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<v Speaker 1>But it can't be money, you know. We like to

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<v Speaker 1>make it a little bit different. And honestly, unless our

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<v Speaker 1>two teams meet again, this is it. So I alright,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm okay with this. So I'm not actually gonna meet

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<v Speaker 1>in the super Bowl. Yeah, so this is it. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care, right, But overall, listen, great game, so much fun.

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<v Speaker 1>The stadium at Tottenham Hotspur was amazing. In the fans

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry were like seven Packer fans. I'm not kidding. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing you had home you had home field advantage.

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<v Speaker 1>I did see uh picture or video Sam posted on

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<v Speaker 1>his on his Instagram and them. I was like, wow

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<v Speaker 1>that it just looks I used like some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>old classy bar. It just looked really cool. Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I whish I was there. That looks awesome. Oh it

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<v Speaker 1>was so much fun. We ran into so many random

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<v Speaker 1>people we knew. It really felt like we were at

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<v Speaker 1>lambeau Field. It felt better than if we were at

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<v Speaker 1>lambeau Field because so many people were you know, new

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<v Speaker 1>Packer fans, like if they were either Brits or Europeans

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<v Speaker 1>in general coming over for the game. And there were

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of things. And Packer fans will know this

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<v Speaker 1>that at a home game r p P, a announcer

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<v Speaker 1>will say that's a Packer's first down in the music

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<v Speaker 1>plays da da da da, go back go, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think you do it three times and then you're done.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you're on offense. You want to be quiet, and

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<v Speaker 1>the either new NFL fans or new Packer fans and

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<v Speaker 1>not realize you want to be quiet when your team's

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<v Speaker 1>on offense. And they just kept going, go, Pat go,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're like, no, no, no everar me quiet. But man,

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't seem to matter that. Uh. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 1>just gave it away. We gave it away. We're feeling

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<v Speaker 1>confident at halftime, obviously. And one of the bets I

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<v Speaker 1>liked going into this game was a J. Dillon over

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<v Speaker 1>twelve and a half rushing attempts and he only had six.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the horrible Everyone in the stands kept saying, run

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<v Speaker 1>the damn ball, run the damn ball. It was so maddening.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the tip passes to end the game. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>your defense was great, you guys throttled us. Defense was great,

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<v Speaker 1>but so after five weeks now I have not been

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<v Speaker 1>very impressed with the Packers at all, and to me

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<v Speaker 1>it is squarely on. The defense hasn't been great either.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's be honest. You let the Giants have what twenty

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<v Speaker 1>on the answered point like, that's not good. The Giant

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't score that much. But yeah, again, I repeat, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no and on that offense. Who scares me other than

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<v Speaker 1>your running backs? Your running backs do. But I know

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<v Speaker 1>they were like a non factor. Call down you should

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<v Speaker 1>be calling Carolina. I also put on Twitter I was

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<v Speaker 1>I was begging the Giants to call the Panthers because

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<v Speaker 1>they're in full blow it up mode. It seems like

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<v Speaker 1>DJ Moore, I don't even know if you could get them,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the trade would be. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even think the Giants have any cap room to make

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<v Speaker 1>it work. But if you're the Packers, maybe you should

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<v Speaker 1>be called Carolina and say, hey, what what do you

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<v Speaker 1>like for DJ? Or even Robbie Anderson. At this point,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how down I am on this receiving corps. The

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<v Speaker 1>Packers or Robby Anderson call the Panthers the Giants. Packers

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely should be calling the Panthers today. I know, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>And again We've talked about the O b J situation

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<v Speaker 1>on this show. He's not healthy. Really told in November

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<v Speaker 1>he's smart, he's taking his sweet time. He's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the hot new girl to move to the high school.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna let all the suitors come to him

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<v Speaker 1>and and figure this out. I I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>think he'd see the chance to do one year with

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<v Speaker 1>a Hall of Fame quarterback. But if I'm O b J,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of wondering. I don't want to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>go somewhere to not advanced far in the playoffs. I

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<v Speaker 1>want a multi year deal. You know he's gonna want

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<v Speaker 1>stability after the last year. So well, I think he

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<v Speaker 1>deserves it because and I've always been a fan of

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<v Speaker 1>his since he was on the Giants. I still wish

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<v Speaker 1>he was on the Giants. I still think the Giants

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<v Speaker 1>should call him as well. Although I don't see how

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<v Speaker 1>you go back. I don't think it works. But we

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<v Speaker 1>know the Rams have problems, Cooper Cup not being one

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<v Speaker 1>of them. Oh b J got open a lot for

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<v Speaker 1>the Rams. Alan Robinson, who I did a whole spiel

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<v Speaker 1>on Alan Robinson before the season started. I was so

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<v Speaker 1>happy for him to finally have a legit quarterback. He

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<v Speaker 1>put up numbers in Chicago with no quarterback whatsoever, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he goes to the Rams and I'm thinking, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got Stafford. Now I don't know if they have

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<v Speaker 1>zero chemistry or if Alan Robinson can't get separation or what.

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<v Speaker 1>He gets no looks. So to me, if you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at it, O b J was getting looks and was

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<v Speaker 1>a big part of that offense, Alan Robinson is not.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that makes O. B J stock go

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<v Speaker 1>up if I'm now that was coming off a massive injury.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I you're right. He should absolutely sit back.

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<v Speaker 1>Teams like the Giants who are decimated, the Packers who

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<v Speaker 1>need help, or you know, some teams were gonna look

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<v Speaker 1>to maybe just get that one last piece like the

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<v Speaker 1>Bills and and and go for it. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>really getting interesting. If I'm O b J looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the Rams still, I mean, look at their last game.

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<v Speaker 1>Stafford through for over three hundred and had four interceptions.

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<v Speaker 1>They're playing with everyone keep saying a patchwork offensive line,

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<v Speaker 1>which you know, almost every offensive line in the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>at some point of the season is patchwork. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>guys just move all around. Certainly Green Bays is getting

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<v Speaker 1>back to that. But yeah, Ram's offense looks pretty pedestrian,

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<v Speaker 1>and you want to you spoke about London fans cheering

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<v Speaker 1>at the wrong time in l a Stafford having the

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<v Speaker 1>quiet his own crowd, or at least he thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was his own crowd, and last year Majordy cowboy fans there.

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<v Speaker 1>And oh I talked about this on Twitter at one

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<v Speaker 1>of my buddies who's a Bears fan. We both the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that there is no disrespect to Justin Fields. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Justin Fields is good. I think he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be good. I believe in Justin Fields. The Giants traded

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<v Speaker 1>out of that pick, the Bears got that pick draft Fields,

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<v Speaker 1>and now Michael Parsons is having a year that very

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<v Speaker 1>few defensive players have. And the fact that the Giants

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<v Speaker 1>passed on them. The Bears passed them, but the Bears

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<v Speaker 1>that need a quarterback and he falls right to the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>That just hurts, because man, I would love to have

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Parsons on the Giants right now. I know everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>looking at Michael Parsons. Dan Quinn's defense is looking really legit.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I think Dan Quinn's probably first step for

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<v Speaker 1>the next head coaching hire, which we're kind of looking

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<v Speaker 1>at Matt Rule and Carolina. I think he's got the

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<v Speaker 1>hottest seat right now in the NFL. But on the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just finish off on that. When you look at

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper Rush, he had just ten completions. I know, people

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<v Speaker 1>are really hot right now. He's undefeated, blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, his game wasn't tastic. He had just ten completions,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, but he's winning now. Obviously. Zeke and

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Pollard are doing the heavy lifting and looking incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I think Tony Pollard needs the ball more.

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<v Speaker 1>But together they were great and Dad may come back

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<v Speaker 1>this week against Philly. How do you feel about that? So,

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<v Speaker 1>as a Giants fan and as an avid NFC East

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<v Speaker 1>watcher and being pleasantly surprised by the NFC East this year, Look,

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys have gotten off the great starts in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>This is in the last ten years, isn't it, But

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<v Speaker 1>by far, by far. And I'm being honest with you

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboy fans, and I know there's a billion of you

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<v Speaker 1>out there. This is the most scared of a Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>team that I have ever been because I look around

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<v Speaker 1>that roster. I look around. They have two really good

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<v Speaker 1>running backs, they have one really great receiver and a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of good role playing receivers. The offensive line could

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<v Speaker 1>get even healthier. And the defense, this is the best

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys defense since the nineties, since they had Charles Haley

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<v Speaker 1>and Leon This is the best Cowboys defense since the nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, it just is. So I'm really afraid you

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<v Speaker 1>lay out a good argument. I guess I just feel

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<v Speaker 1>like the Cowboys of years past have been more star studded.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, it doesn't matter, and we're seeing that

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<v Speaker 1>by by teams like the Giants, and you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>the Eagles, who are obviously the leaders right now, be

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<v Speaker 1>scared of the Eagles, right But could you name like,

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<v Speaker 1>could you name seven Eagles off the top of your head?

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<v Speaker 1>You probably could, but you have to think when you

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<v Speaker 1>get down the like four or five or six and

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<v Speaker 1>not loaded with stars. They're just a really good deep team.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really want to talk about the top of

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<v Speaker 1>my head right now, besides the Chadar, the British Cheddar

0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:41.600
<v Speaker 1>that's on the top of your head. Last thing about

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys because I want to ask you this, it's

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<v Speaker 1>Dak's job, right, I mean, that's what every talking head

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<v Speaker 1>show is going to talk. Of course it is, and

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, And I thought about this a lot while

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<v Speaker 1>doing the workout this morning. Cooper Rush is doing amazing things.

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<v Speaker 1>He's managing the game perfectly. Ceedee Lamb is very effective

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<v Speaker 1>with Cooper Rush in the lineup. But I just think

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<v Speaker 1>Dac has a much higher ceiling. Maybe a lower floor,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe when he goes bad and the offenses run differently,

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<v Speaker 1>and if he throws some picks because Cooper does not

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<v Speaker 1>throw picks, maybe a lower floor. But I think to

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<v Speaker 1>advance and win three or four games in the playoffs

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<v Speaker 1>to win a Super Bowl, I think you need the

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<v Speaker 1>ceiling of Dak, and I think he's earned that. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's quiet all the chatter about maybe the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>are better off what time will tell, but and and

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<v Speaker 1>beating the Eagles would go a long way for either

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<v Speaker 1>of these two quarterbacks. But yeah, this is we got

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<v Speaker 1>some good matchups this week. I gotta say with Cooper,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really fun to watch this because of course, when

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<v Speaker 1>Dad comes back, which should be this week, he's earning

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<v Speaker 1>himself years in this league. You know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>people will go back to this season and look at

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<v Speaker 1>what he did and whether he's a backup for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of his career or not. I see him really

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<v Speaker 1>doing some good things for his career. So it's always

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<v Speaker 1>great to see that someone else who was earning themselves

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<v Speaker 1>years in this league. Is Dino Smith in your Seattle Seahawks.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been so great last week three touchdowns, no interception.

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<v Speaker 1>H Kenneth Walker Jr. Obviously was great. Penny got hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's a question mark. Their defense is terrible in Seattle,

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<v Speaker 1>but they've got this like top ten offense in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>And they lost, of course, but they look legit on offense.

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<v Speaker 1>So obviously, my my long shot lottery ticket of the

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<v Speaker 1>Seahawks winning the division is not going to hold up.

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<v Speaker 1>Although gosh, if they just had a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>defense and if they could have held onto that game,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, they had one more win and you're

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<v Speaker 1>really looking at the Rams saying okay, and look, the

0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:42.720
<v Speaker 1>Niners are scary on defense. They just lost the defensive

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<v Speaker 1>player today. I would still at least be in the hunt.

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<v Speaker 1>I still am in the hunt, but barely. But the

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<v Speaker 1>bigger story. The bigger story is they got the Russell

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson trade right. They got a lot of value for him.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't have to pay him all that money. And

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's too soon to say, oh, Russell Wilson's finished.

0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:05.520
<v Speaker 1>I think it is a little too soon because who

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<v Speaker 1>knows if he's hurt new offense and maybe the coach

0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:10.879
<v Speaker 1>is part of the issue. Who knows. Either way, Do

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<v Speaker 1>you want that for the next five years? No, you

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<v Speaker 1>now have draft capital, you have GENO for the time being. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>things are looking bright in Seattle. I just again with

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<v Speaker 1>these older coaches. That's why I'm so upset with Like Tomlin,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not an old coach, but it's been around. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to watch Tomlin rebuild. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>I want to watch Pete cow rebuild. But it certainly

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<v Speaker 1>seems like they're there are a few steps ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>where we all thought they would be going into the year. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the Russell Wilson thing is cringe e. But it's like

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<v Speaker 1>when a couple gets a divorce and one of them

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<v Speaker 1>just really kicking ass and one of them is and

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, one of them is going on dates

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<v Speaker 1>and supernatos on the cat were subway sandwiches weird commercial

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<v Speaker 1>subway sandwiches on Then how about the let's ride as

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<v Speaker 1>he's leaving the press conference? That was that not so

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<v Speaker 1>weird and cringe e than country. You need to go

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<v Speaker 1>ride yourself to a quarterback camp and talk to Trent

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<v Speaker 1>Dilfer or something or whatever, because no one's writing if

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<v Speaker 1>you are, No one's riding right now, so you need

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<v Speaker 1>to Yeah, no one's riding right now unless the people

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<v Speaker 1>are betting against you or maybe riding with you. Something

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<v Speaker 1>else about Russ that kind of just it was always

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<v Speaker 1>weirded me out for years now. I've kind of kept

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<v Speaker 1>tabs on this is like every video I see of him,

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<v Speaker 1>he has a different accent. I'm not kidding. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>his Instagram stories, he has a completely different voice than

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<v Speaker 1>later and and I just I've heard like twelve different

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<v Speaker 1>variations of his voice, which just kind of adds to

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<v Speaker 1>the who are you dude? Like? And I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you watch this two on Good Morning Football, they

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<v Speaker 1>did a whole rant on it and it was a

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<v Speaker 1>great piece and they just we're giving more firsthand stories

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<v Speaker 1>of dealing with Russell, like behind the scenes and just

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<v Speaker 1>same kind of unflattering things, and so a lot coming

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<v Speaker 1>to light. Look, I I wish, I wish no one

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<v Speaker 1>ill in this business. I don't. I would love. I

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<v Speaker 1>would love everyone to do well, stay healthy and provide

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<v Speaker 1>for their family. But he would have Russell Wilson or

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<v Speaker 1>Gino Smith. And you have to answer right now. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>let you take one piece of cheese off your head

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<v Speaker 1>if you answer in less than five seconds. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>believe you could take a little cheese off. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I would too. I don't know, I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really see that. We're overreacting obviously, and we're kind of

0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:30.440
<v Speaker 1>jumping to it feels like an NBA trade to me,

0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:33.080
<v Speaker 1>that trade. There's so many teams, Like if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the Pelicans and we're gonna talk about all this

0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:39.080
<v Speaker 1>with Zach Harper. Obviously you love Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis

0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:41.600
<v Speaker 1>won a Bubble championship with the Lakers, but the last

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<v Speaker 1>few years he's been injured, we haven't seen him. And

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<v Speaker 1>now the Pelicans, who have a good roster, now have

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<v Speaker 1>a million of the Lakers picks. That's a great place

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<v Speaker 1>to be in and the Seahawks could be left with

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<v Speaker 1>very valuable draft capital. If the Broncos don't pull this together,

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<v Speaker 1>and now there's still the three and two, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>two and three. But yeah, this is crazy. Speaking of this,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a team that is one in four, that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the best one in four team in the NFL, and

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<v Speaker 1>I have said, I think this team is making the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm going against that now obviously, but it leads

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<v Speaker 1>me to my m it's time to leash. So the

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<v Speaker 1>Davante Adams shoving a photographer thing, well, let me just

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<v Speaker 1>say when I first saw the video, I was shocked.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so not Davante. He's always been such a class act, calm, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>collected and as someone who works on the sidelines of games,

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<v Speaker 1>and I worked with so many amazing people over the years,

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<v Speaker 1>camera guys, security guys, graphics people. You know, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people who earn their paycheck on a football field,

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<v Speaker 1>not just the players and coaches. Okay, so I felt

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<v Speaker 1>pretty angry the first time I saw it. I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>that guy, just like, that's DeVante's dream job. That's that

0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:01.639
<v Speaker 1>guy's dream up, you know, to be an NFL photographer.

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<v Speaker 1>That it's It made me so angry that these people

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<v Speaker 1>sacrifice and are working long hours and for a lot

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<v Speaker 1>less money. And you know the guy too, he was

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<v Speaker 1>just walking across the tunnel. I could understand if it

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<v Speaker 1>was almost paparazzi like of like shoving a camera in

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<v Speaker 1>his face, blah blah blah, but he was I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he saw Davante coming, as I've rewatched the tape,

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<v Speaker 1>so I just thought that was so unfair and really

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<v Speaker 1>sad to see. Davante quickly apologized both of the man

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter and then to the press afterwards in the

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<v Speaker 1>locker room. And I still think he's a class act.

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<v Speaker 1>This was so out of character, and I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>He was so embarrassed by the way that game ended.

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<v Speaker 1>At one point last Monday Night football in Kansas City,

0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:46.080
<v Speaker 1>him and Hunter Renfro run into each other on their

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<v Speaker 1>final play to win it. And it was horrible. But

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<v Speaker 1>Adams had two touchdowns twenty four yards. He had a

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<v Speaker 1>great game and only on three catches too, which is wild.

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<v Speaker 1>How did he only have three catches and two touchdowns

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<v Speaker 1>and a hundred twenty four yards? I don't know. But anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>a eads now one and four and Adams is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sitting there, probably wondering what his decision was all about.

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<v Speaker 1>I would assume we've talked about it a lot on

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<v Speaker 1>the show, but a part of my unleashed is this.

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<v Speaker 1>After saying all that, I think it's funny that after

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<v Speaker 1>three hours of asking these guys on the field, these

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<v Speaker 1>players to be gladiators, right, to just run down each

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<v Speaker 1>other's throats, to be so aggressive and violent, that now

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<v Speaker 1>we are clutching our pearls at this little shove like

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<v Speaker 1>as he's walking off the field. And I know this

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<v Speaker 1>might kind of sound hypocritical, but I think the shove

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<v Speaker 1>was totally inappropriate. And again I felt really bad for

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<v Speaker 1>the guy. But I imagine after giving a game, you're

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<v Speaker 1>all and being frustrated with the season, and all you

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<v Speaker 1>hear when you go home as you should have stayed

0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:49.439
<v Speaker 1>in Green Bay blah blah blah. Having all this energy,

0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:52.800
<v Speaker 1>all this aggression for that long, I think it's very

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<v Speaker 1>hard to simply walk off the field or talk with

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<v Speaker 1>the reporter, right. Don't you always feel awkward when a

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<v Speaker 1>players really heated and has a cameras and microphone shoved

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<v Speaker 1>in their face to talk after I think of Richard

0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Sherman and Aaron Andrews, that famous postgame interview, and obviously

0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Richard wasn't violent or anything, but I'm just saying, there's

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<v Speaker 1>so much going on that right after you're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>not your normal self. You're not how you'd be walking

0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:18.720
<v Speaker 1>down the street, you know what I mean. So I

0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:21.280
<v Speaker 1>always think about that. It's like we asked them to

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<v Speaker 1>do so much physically and to just be these animals,

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<v Speaker 1>these gladiators on the field, and then we want them

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<v Speaker 1>to be perfect gentleman seconds after. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a little unfair of us. You know, let's let's give

0:23:35.400 --> 0:23:38.600
<v Speaker 1>these guys a little second to cool off, because it's

0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:42.320
<v Speaker 1>a whole different mode they're in when they're on the pitch,

0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:44.639
<v Speaker 1>as we say here in London. What do you think, Jerry,

0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:47.560
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a great point. Look, I think if

0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:50.280
<v Speaker 1>you Davante Adams would like to have that one back,

0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:52.840
<v Speaker 1>of course, And I'm with you, like he's he seems

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<v Speaker 1>like an awesome guy, besides this being an awesome player.

0:23:55.240 --> 0:23:58.000
<v Speaker 1>When I'm liking so far as it seems like everyone's

0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:01.600
<v Speaker 1>accepting an apology for the mistake. Finally, like someone made

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<v Speaker 1>a mistake. Uh fortunately, does not seem like the guy

0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:08.080
<v Speaker 1>was hurt. That's let's keep you know, clarity, That's the

0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:10.960
<v Speaker 1>most important thing. The guy didn't get hurt, thankfully, or

0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:12.520
<v Speaker 1>else this would have been a much bigger deal. The

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:15.439
<v Speaker 1>guy made a mistake. He made Davante Adams made a mistake.

0:24:15.520 --> 0:24:18.200
<v Speaker 1>He said, I'm sorry, Let's forgive him. I've got to

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<v Speaker 1>get fined for sure. If our Davante had definitely reach

0:24:21.359 --> 0:24:23.800
<v Speaker 1>out to the guy, be like again, I'm I'm sure

0:24:23.800 --> 0:24:26.959
<v Speaker 1>he has. I'm sorry anything I can ever do you know,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's let's move on. You know, I don't I

0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:32.720
<v Speaker 1>don't think it was Thankfully he wasn't hurt. Let's focus

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<v Speaker 1>on that and let's move on. I'm sure Davante Adams

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<v Speaker 1>feels like shit about it and would like to move on.

0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:40.680
<v Speaker 1>So I think we just we can move on. Let's

0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:45.040
<v Speaker 1>forgive someone who made a mistake and move forward. So good, great,

0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:53.440
<v Speaker 1>unleash though, thank you? Than do you want mine? Okay, listen, Obviously,

0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:56.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm a New York guy. I am not getting too

0:24:56.320 --> 0:24:59.200
<v Speaker 1>far ahead of myself with the New York Football Giants

0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:02.560
<v Speaker 1>four and one, and I love my coach. We talked

0:25:02.600 --> 0:25:04.679
<v Speaker 1>already about that way. I'm over the moon, so and

0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:07.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm actually trying to be quiet about like, great, awesome,

0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:10.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm not taking any victory laps because it's only five

0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:13.080
<v Speaker 1>games in. Now we're gonna circle over to my Jets

0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:16.719
<v Speaker 1>fan friends. However, we say that properly, my Jets fans

0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:23.160
<v Speaker 1>friends who historically have always taken victory laps after week one,

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<v Speaker 1>after Week two, or beating the Patriots once or whatever,

0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:28.680
<v Speaker 1>and haven't been good in a really long time. I'm

0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:31.480
<v Speaker 1>not a Jets hater. I do laugh at their pain,

0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:34.679
<v Speaker 1>as many people laugh at my Knicks pain. I do

0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:39.480
<v Speaker 1>laugh at the Jets pain. Jets fans, you should absolutely

0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:43.440
<v Speaker 1>be excited. But I was in a Twitter conversation which

0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:46.360
<v Speaker 1>probably was my first mistake, with a good buddy of mine,

0:25:46.400 --> 0:25:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Sean from the Knicks Wall, great Knicks fan, and my

0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:52.320
<v Speaker 1>guy was talking about, I can't believe the Jets are

0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:54.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna have a defensive rookie of the Year and an

0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:57.760
<v Speaker 1>offensive rookie of the year. This is crazy. Look, look,

0:25:57.800 --> 0:26:02.320
<v Speaker 1>look pumped the brakes. Okay, maybe Sauce Gardner could and

0:26:02.359 --> 0:26:05.280
<v Speaker 1>we devaded. So Sauce Gardner as being a little lockdown corner,

0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:07.280
<v Speaker 1>and he certainly seems like he is, and maybe he

0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:10.200
<v Speaker 1>will win defensive Rookie Year number one? Who cares really

0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:13.280
<v Speaker 1>about those awards? Those are great for the player individually.

0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:16.000
<v Speaker 1>You want this team to develop, You want the young

0:26:16.080 --> 0:26:19.479
<v Speaker 1>talent you have to develop. You have great young talent.

0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Take that victory lap Who cares about the awards? Let's

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:25.359
<v Speaker 1>not get too far ahead of ourselves. You've done that

0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:31.399
<v Speaker 1>historically and that historically does not work. So enjoy the

0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:34.560
<v Speaker 1>winds that you've had. Enjoy this young talent. So don't

0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:36.879
<v Speaker 1>talk about defensive Rookie of the year offensive rookie of

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:39.640
<v Speaker 1>the year. Just you got a game this week against

0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:43.199
<v Speaker 1>your Green Bay Packers. Could New York snake bite you twice?

0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I like that it's in Lambeaux. But

0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:48.880
<v Speaker 1>these Jets are a problem. They really are. They are

0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:51.359
<v Speaker 1>not and I actually like the Jets this week. I

0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:53.280
<v Speaker 1>like the Packers to win, but I think it's another

0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:55.679
<v Speaker 1>tight one. Well, what I was just thinking, if if

0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:57.760
<v Speaker 1>you're bragging and we might have defensive Rookie of the

0:26:57.800 --> 0:27:00.000
<v Speaker 1>year an offensive Rookie of the year, well I should

0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:03.280
<v Speaker 1>would hope. So if you had to top ten picks

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:07.640
<v Speaker 1>right exactly and the number four, number ten, I think, yes, yes,

0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:10.760
<v Speaker 1>I forget, but you would think, especially getting one on

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:13.040
<v Speaker 1>each side of the ball, that that'd be an option.

0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:17.800
<v Speaker 1>But no, Hey, props to Robert Salah. These Jets are

0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:20.080
<v Speaker 1>are kind of fun to watch. And I'm happy for

0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Robert sala I've worked with them a little bit when

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:24.160
<v Speaker 1>he was the forty Niners at d C, and it's

0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:27.400
<v Speaker 1>great seeing good things happen to good people. And I'm

0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:29.400
<v Speaker 1>sure as a New York guy and as a Giants fan,

0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:31.480
<v Speaker 1>you're just like, you're kind of like, come on, we

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:34.399
<v Speaker 1>are having a moment. Not you listen take all the

0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:36.840
<v Speaker 1>head to see I this was what I did with

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:39.840
<v Speaker 1>you last week. I played I downplayed the Giants in London.

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:43.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna downplay this Giants Jets. That Jets. Take all

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:46.880
<v Speaker 1>the headlines, take all of them, take every single one.

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:51.240
<v Speaker 1>We will quietly go about our business, will coach Briant table,

0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:53.800
<v Speaker 1>where's Jordan's cement? Threes? And we will just go to

0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:57.879
<v Speaker 1>work and that's it. He's cool onto the Ravens. I'm grant.

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:01.000
<v Speaker 1>I actually reached out to him. Uh and my friends

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:03.240
<v Speaker 1>at the Giants said, I don't think it's going to

0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 1>happen in season, which I love that answer. Yes, because

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:11.199
<v Speaker 1>he's not taking a victory lab and why would he

0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 1>be talking to us. I should be prepping for his game.

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't talk to us. I mean, I got freaking

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:19.119
<v Speaker 1>sprinkled British cheddar on my head. We're not serious, you

0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:21.119
<v Speaker 1>know what. Well, I'm in such a good mood talking

0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 1>about the New York football teams, Like, you know, we

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:26.080
<v Speaker 1>got Yankees playoff games in the city I'm living in

0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:28.879
<v Speaker 1>in Cleveland. Take the cheese off your head, Take it off.

0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:31.760
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Let's get ready for our interview Zach Harper.

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:43.840
<v Speaker 1>The NBA season tips off on Tuesday, and we're about

0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 1>to run our own fast break to get you ready

0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:48.720
<v Speaker 1>and leading the point is our guest staff writer for

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 1>The Athletic Zach Harper is here. Zach. Thanks for joining us.

0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 1>We're excited to have you on. Yeah, thanks for having me.

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:55.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm ready to I'm ready to get back into the

0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:58.760
<v Speaker 1>whole thing. What's weird is I uh, I've been on vacation,

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 1>not going anywhere and not do anything fun. I've just

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:03.200
<v Speaker 1>been off the last couple of weeks, so I've been

0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:05.200
<v Speaker 1>like cramming to get back. And I was like, oh, yeah,

0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I guess Draymond gotten to fight and you know, let's

0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:09.320
<v Speaker 1>let's see what else is going on? Yeah that much.

0:29:09.920 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean from trade demands to inter office affairs. It's

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:17.600
<v Speaker 1>really been one of the wildest, most interesting off season.

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:20.560
<v Speaker 1>So as you're catching up, what's the one story you

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 1>can't believe happened? Surprisingly, it's that Draymond punched a teammate.

0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 1>And it's the teammate that he punched, right, It's not

0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 1>like if it was of like grizzly veteran or a

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:33.640
<v Speaker 1>big tough guy or something like that. All right, you know, whatever,

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 1>the stuff happens, and it does happen. But Jordan's pools

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:39.440
<v Speaker 1>like the little brother, who I think is like a

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:41.720
<v Speaker 1>cat own. It's just not the guy you would punch, right, Like,

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:44.680
<v Speaker 1>It's just not like it's not it's not that big

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 1>tough guy, Like, yeah he talks, but I think that

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 1>and everything that kind of mushrooms off of that in

0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:53.160
<v Speaker 1>terms of where we're going to see the chemistry of

0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 1>the Warriors, which has always been something they can rely

0:29:55.680 --> 0:29:57.239
<v Speaker 1>on of like we know what we are, we know

0:29:57.280 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 1>who we are, and now as defending champs and even

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 1>a bigger target on their back and everything like that's

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:06.120
<v Speaker 1>pretty big. But as I say this. I mean the

0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:08.240
<v Speaker 1>email Doka stuff is actually really crazy. Like I don't

0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:11.480
<v Speaker 1>know why I said Draymond because that is between their

0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 1>injuries and they're just disruption and now they just have

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:18.320
<v Speaker 1>a whole new coach they weren't expecting to have. I

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 1>should have suspected something when their own team governor came

0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:24.760
<v Speaker 1>out and said like a week prior, like, I think

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:27.160
<v Speaker 1>we're overrated. I think people are overrating us where I'm like,

0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I just went to the finals, how are you overrated?

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 1>But those are the those are the two pick ones

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>I guess now. Look, everyone's obviously up in arms about

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 1>the Draymond stuff. I had several conversations with friends who

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:39.160
<v Speaker 1>one of my buddies called me it's like you know

0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 1>what you know when you look at someone and you're like,

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 1>they know what they're doing, Like Draymond knows how to

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 1>fight based off that punch, there's zero doubt about it. Uh. Look,

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 1>now I feel like everyone's shipping Draymond Green off, like

0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 1>all the Warriors can't stay together like this, and that's

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:56.040
<v Speaker 1>going to be such a like to me. But I've

0:30:56.080 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 1>never been hit like that. I don't want to be

0:30:57.680 --> 0:30:59.800
<v Speaker 1>hit like that. I've certainly argued with teammates and have

0:30:59.880 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 1>never to play in the NBA. If any team could

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:06.480
<v Speaker 1>come back from that chemistry wise, it's the Warriors, right

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:09.640
<v Speaker 1>like I think so, I think so like that and

0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 1>it's it's not like it's a new guy who did it,

0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 1>right like they know Draymond, but Draymond did he overstepped

0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 1>the mountains, like across the line there, and you're right,

0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 1>like that was a that was a bar punch like

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 1>that is that is? Like that was I have been

0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:25.400
<v Speaker 1>hit like that? It sucks, uh and I but but

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:26.800
<v Speaker 1>it was by a stranger. I didn't have to be

0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:29.000
<v Speaker 1>friends with this person anymore like it was by a stranger.

0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 1>And so there are plenty of those. There are plenty

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 1>of those. But yeah, like that's something where I think.

0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:40.400
<v Speaker 1>The crazy thing about that and something that happened throughout

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 1>the week of the of the story is most of

0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 1>the people on the court didn't see the punch until

0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 1>the video goes like Curry didn't see the punch happen.

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 1>All he did was turned around and there's a scuffle,

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 1>right like Andrewodalad didn't see the punch happened. So there

0:31:55.920 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 1>is okay, we got we had a practice fight. Whatever

0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 1>it happens. You know, Jordan's on the on the floor.

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>He was shooting around and smiling after the practice when

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 1>the media got let in. So it's not like he

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 1>got sent to the hospital or anything. But once you

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 1>see the way it happened and that there's just this

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:15.080
<v Speaker 1>immediate escalation. Yeah, like we miss you. We're not not

0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 1>we necessarily, but like athletes often miss you. Like, I'm

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 1>so humbled by this experience, right Lebron James saying, Oh,

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm gonna pass Kaream's scoring record. I'm humbled by that.

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 1>It's like, that's not what that means, Like you're not

0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 1>humbled by the idea that you're gonna be the all

0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 1>time leading score Draymond Green is legitimately humbled by this,

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 1>and it takes a lot to humble that guy. And

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 1>so I do think like he has a ton of

0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:38.480
<v Speaker 1>work to do to get back on the trust side

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 1>for his entire team, for Jordan Pool. But it's not

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 1>a guarantee. It's not a guarantee that it's going to happen.

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 1>I would guess that it is, but if it, you know,

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 1>two months in the season, it Hey, this isn't gonna

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 1>be repaired, and maybe we do need to ship him

0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:54.560
<v Speaker 1>somewhere because he's got a contract coming up and everything

0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 1>I could see it, I just I'm I'm with you,

0:32:57.480 --> 0:32:59.880
<v Speaker 1>like I think they're going to be okay. It seems

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:02.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, when you hear something happened and you're kind

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:04.640
<v Speaker 1>of like, oh yeah, but when you see it or

0:33:04.640 --> 0:33:07.200
<v Speaker 1>when you hear recording of something, it all of a sudden,

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:09.240
<v Speaker 1>it's so much worse. In sports, we can think of

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 1>so many things that happened off the field, domestic violence

0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:13.719
<v Speaker 1>type thing. When the video comes out, when the audio

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:17.320
<v Speaker 1>recording comes out, you're like, damn, that's that's it's different.

0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:20.720
<v Speaker 1>It kind of felt like that because and of course

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 1>there was no audio to it. Have you heard anything

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:27.320
<v Speaker 1>about what might have been said? I have. I've read

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:29.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff of like what could have been said.

0:33:29.600 --> 0:33:31.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how much of it is real and

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 1>how much of it is like people trying to be

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:34.680
<v Speaker 1>the onion, Like I don't know what it is like,

0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 1>there's there's just it's like that that Kawhi Leonard story

0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:40.680
<v Speaker 1>of he went to a restaurant and he had a

0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 1>bag of apples and they asked him what, you know,

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 1>what he wanted, and he's like, apple time, Apple time.

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 1>It's not a real story, but enough people believed it

0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:49.160
<v Speaker 1>because Kauai is like kind of a different dude, right,

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 1>And so now with the Draymond stuff in Jordan's pool,

0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Jordan talks a lot. Draymond is Draymond, Like, there's so

0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 1>many iterations of what you could say, Hey, I heard

0:33:57.480 --> 0:34:00.640
<v Speaker 1>this happened, and I'd probably believe. I don't know what

0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 1>to believe. Though. What I heard before I saw the

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 1>punched in your in your right, what I heard was

0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:07.960
<v Speaker 1>like Draymond punched him aggressively. I'm like, what does that mean?

0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:09.960
<v Speaker 1>And then I saw the video, was like, that's underselling it.

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 1>That's that was not aggressively. That was that was a

0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:16.319
<v Speaker 1>just a straight up bar fight, except one guy didn't

0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:18.560
<v Speaker 1>seem to know he was fighting. And so yeah, like

0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:20.880
<v Speaker 1>seeing that and I think that's again, like that's the

0:34:20.920 --> 0:34:23.279
<v Speaker 1>thing for the team is once they all saw it.

0:34:23.520 --> 0:34:26.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Steph rarely comes out and talks against the teammate,

0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:29.440
<v Speaker 1>but Steph, you know, made some pretty strong comments for

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:32.880
<v Speaker 1>him based on the situation, while still trying to delicately

0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:36.560
<v Speaker 1>balanced that leadership role, and you know Draymond, it's not

0:34:36.600 --> 0:34:38.000
<v Speaker 1>like he was just some guy on the team, Like

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:40.319
<v Speaker 1>he's one of the big leaders and that's that's gonna

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:42.560
<v Speaker 1>be a real thing that they have to fix. It

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:45.799
<v Speaker 1>did lead to uh, one of my favorite Twitter exchanges

0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:49.880
<v Speaker 1>of Chris Child, who is not verified on Twitter. So

0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:52.520
<v Speaker 1>I hope it's the real Chris Child. I believe it's him.

0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:54.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it's him. I think we can we can't

0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:56.600
<v Speaker 1>confirm it, but like it's as close to a confirmation

0:34:56.640 --> 0:34:58.480
<v Speaker 1>as Bossy I was like reading, is this like a

0:34:58.480 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 1>fake Chris Child account? And Chris basically the Chris Child's

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:04.399
<v Speaker 1>account who we believe is Chris Child is saying, Man,

0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 1>if they if there's cameras in the nineties for those

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:10.960
<v Speaker 1>nineties nixed teams in early two thousands, nixed teams, that

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:13.640
<v Speaker 1>was like a regular thing. Also, it looked like that

0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 1>camera was from the nineties. What we all the simply

0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:19.960
<v Speaker 1>save the ads that every podcast has and there's no

0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:22.600
<v Speaker 1>is there that might be on purpose that those security

0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 1>cameras are such ship quality. Yeah, I think you know,

0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:28.200
<v Speaker 1>you can put filters on anything right now, Like I

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:29.920
<v Speaker 1>could look like like the dog out of nowhere. If

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:31.799
<v Speaker 1>you guys wanted to like it's just like you know,

0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:34.000
<v Speaker 1>there's there's a lot you can do there. Yeah. It

0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:36.800
<v Speaker 1>it definitely looked like like the early versions of a

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:39.239
<v Speaker 1>ring camera, right like in the quality of it, and

0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:41.480
<v Speaker 1>they're like not the updated stuff, but that first like

0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:45.279
<v Speaker 1>kind of prototype, and um, it's yeah, I mean, man,

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:48.120
<v Speaker 1>what would you pay to get the Charles Oakley practice footage?

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:49.879
<v Speaker 1>Because I would pay a lot of money. That means,

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:52.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean I just go straight credit card on that one,

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:54.360
<v Speaker 1>like whatever, I'll pay that off later. Like let's we

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:56.400
<v Speaker 1>got to see all that stuff. So I think it

0:35:56.560 --> 0:35:58.759
<v Speaker 1>was Chris Child's. I would love to hear Chris child

0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 1>stories on that. No, we're gonna get Chris Childs on

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:04.120
<v Speaker 1>this pod to try to talk the guy too. Pieced

0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Kobe Bryant during used to go to other teams practices

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:11.960
<v Speaker 1>and fight like I don't even know how he got

0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:13.640
<v Speaker 1>in the building, Like he would just walk in like

0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 1>you owe me money, Like let's go Like that's you know,

0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:19.600
<v Speaker 1>those those nineties ones were different, and Steve Kerr kind

0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 1>of alluded to that. He said, of all the years

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:24.160
<v Speaker 1>in the NBA, I've seen twenty plus fights, but that's

0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 1>probably a conservative number, and he said, the bigger problem

0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:30.359
<v Speaker 1>right now it is who leaked it, and that kind

0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 1>of leads to other organizational issues. And I just want

0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 1>to circle back to a team that's got a lot

0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:39.040
<v Speaker 1>of organizational issues right now. Is the Boston Celtics, once

0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:42.160
<v Speaker 1>thought to be kind of a front runner to repeat

0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:45.160
<v Speaker 1>and and be the leader in the East. Now you

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:47.680
<v Speaker 1>just wonder where did all these cracks happen? And where

0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:51.920
<v Speaker 1>was the breakdown in organization? What do you think the

0:36:51.960 --> 0:36:55.240
<v Speaker 1>Celtics do from here? Does this completely unravel their season?

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 1>And obviously you mentioned the big injuries do right, I

0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:01.960
<v Speaker 1>mean it's tough because now you start wondering what was

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 1>the real Celtics team. Was it the first half Celtics

0:37:04.120 --> 0:37:06.320
<v Speaker 1>team where everyone's like, oh, maybe we should trade Tatum

0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:08.720
<v Speaker 1>or Brown and maybe this isn't the right mix and everything,

0:37:09.000 --> 0:37:11.280
<v Speaker 1>or is it the second half team that dominated the NBA?

0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean absolutely dominated from every measurement you can you

0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 1>can have out there on the floor, like they were

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:19.120
<v Speaker 1>by far the best team in the second half of

0:37:19.200 --> 0:37:21.920
<v Speaker 1>last season. And then obviously their playoff run was incredible

0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:23.960
<v Speaker 1>and you can say, yeah, there's luck because you know

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Chris Middleton got her. Sure, absolutely. That happens in every postseason, though,

0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:30.000
<v Speaker 1>like we always see some team that isn't healthy and

0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:32.920
<v Speaker 1>it hurts them. Celtics stayed healthy enough, they went through

0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:36.040
<v Speaker 1>their own injuries. UM trying to figure out which team

0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:38.279
<v Speaker 1>that is. You know, they acquire Malcolm Brogda. I love

0:37:38.360 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 1>that move. They didn't give up much for him, but

0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:44.319
<v Speaker 1>he misses a lot of time. He has planner fasciitist

0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 1>issues and all kinds of extremity issues, and so is

0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:49.200
<v Speaker 1>he going to be healthy and available. Robert Williams the

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:53.400
<v Speaker 1>third already out, you know, months and after the injuries

0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:55.600
<v Speaker 1>he's gone through earlier in his career, had the quick

0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:58.280
<v Speaker 1>turnaround from the meniscus tear. You have to be concerned

0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:01.240
<v Speaker 1>about his availability even when he is back to whatever

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:06.160
<v Speaker 1>looks like for him. The coaching situation, I mean, until

0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 1>this email, U dooka stuff broke. I thought Celtics are

0:38:09.560 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 1>the team to beat in the Eastern Conference, as good

0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:13.920
<v Speaker 1>as the Bucks, are as good as the Miami or

0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Philly or any of these teams Brooklyn on paper at least,

0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:18.799
<v Speaker 1>and until they figure out what what that's gonna be.

0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I thought, No, the Celtics are still a team to beat. Now,

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:24.799
<v Speaker 1>I'd probably say Milwaukee is has their number and maybe

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:27.600
<v Speaker 1>had their number the whole time. But the Celtics, I mean,

0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:29.759
<v Speaker 1>that's just what I like to do with the team

0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:32.360
<v Speaker 1>and trying to figure out if they're legitimate or not,

0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 1>or if they're going to sustain is It's what I

0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:36.600
<v Speaker 1>call the what if game. And once we start getting

0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:38.759
<v Speaker 1>to like four or five what ifs of like what

0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:40.759
<v Speaker 1>if this guy is healthy, what if this coach is

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:42.439
<v Speaker 1>really good, and what if this guy can come back,

0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:44.279
<v Speaker 1>and what if this chemistry. Once we get to like

0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:47.359
<v Speaker 1>four or five, you're really just grasping at straws there,

0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:49.960
<v Speaker 1>and it feels like we're headed that way. It can correct,

0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:51.880
<v Speaker 1>they could be healthy and everything could be fine, but

0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 1>it feels like we're headed to that four or five

0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:56.960
<v Speaker 1>what ifs. Yeah, even the factor in you know, I

0:38:56.960 --> 0:38:59.480
<v Speaker 1>thought the Gallinari signing was going to be good, especially

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:02.040
<v Speaker 1>come around off time for them. He gets hurt and

0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:04.120
<v Speaker 1>then you know, this is what makes me think, You're like,

0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:06.799
<v Speaker 1>we're living in a simulator sometimes because you have Will

0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:10.279
<v Speaker 1>Hardy there who is primed and ready for a head

0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:13.200
<v Speaker 1>coaching job, and then Danny Ainge plucks him away and

0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:15.600
<v Speaker 1>then you lose your head coach, like gosh, if Will

0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:21.239
<v Speaker 1>Hardy could have just you know, absolutely, I don't know

0:39:21.239 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 1>if we're having these well we're probably we're having them,

0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:26.160
<v Speaker 1>but not maybe as deeply of like how screwed or

0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:29.000
<v Speaker 1>the Celtics if Will Hardy's there. But uh, I still

0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:31.640
<v Speaker 1>think they have a good roster. I think the East.

0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:33.360
<v Speaker 1>And this is what I wanted to really dive in

0:39:33.360 --> 0:39:35.560
<v Speaker 1>with you about because obviously too we know I'm a

0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Knicks fan and this is a safe, safe chat right

0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:41.640
<v Speaker 1>permission for me to talk about. Okay, I won't totally

0:39:41.680 --> 0:39:46.000
<v Speaker 1>submarine the whole conversation, I promise, but the East for once,

0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:48.879
<v Speaker 1>as always it's been the West for years, I think

0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:51.399
<v Speaker 1>that the East. I sat down today and I really

0:39:51.440 --> 0:39:54.600
<v Speaker 1>tried to figure out, Okay, we're gonna have six playoff teams.

0:39:54.680 --> 0:39:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Who are they? We might be poised for a play

0:39:57.800 --> 0:40:00.800
<v Speaker 1>in that will rival the actual will first round of

0:40:00.840 --> 0:40:03.880
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs. So absolutely I looked at some of the team. Okay,

0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:10.440
<v Speaker 1>so we have to pick six of these teams Celtics, Bucks, Sixers, Calves, Nets,

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:15.320
<v Speaker 1>he Raptors, Hawks, Bulls. I'm gonna throw in the Knicks

0:40:15.440 --> 0:40:19.680
<v Speaker 1>because it's podcast, but I get it. So do you

0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:21.919
<v Speaker 1>have your six yet? Is it? Or is it? There's

0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:24.719
<v Speaker 1>no way to even possibly hedge because I want to

0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:26.640
<v Speaker 1>know who's in the plane. I think this plane. Could

0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:30.640
<v Speaker 1>you could see Knicks, Nets, Hawks, Raptors in the plane.

0:40:30.680 --> 0:40:33.800
<v Speaker 1>That's insane. We might need to see like an executive

0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:36.360
<v Speaker 1>decision by Adam Silver of like, hey, the plan is

0:40:36.360 --> 0:40:38.560
<v Speaker 1>just going to be a best of five series, right,

0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:40.800
<v Speaker 1>like no like one and like it we really should

0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:42.640
<v Speaker 1>get not in the West, just in the Eastern Conference.

0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna do this best of five. Yeah, I mean

0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:47.799
<v Speaker 1>it's if you think about it, Let's be unbiased here,

0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Let's remove the Knicks from the conversation just for that.

0:40:50.040 --> 0:40:52.800
<v Speaker 1>We'll bring them right back in. But those are you

0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:56.040
<v Speaker 1>named nine really good teams? Not like oh they could

0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:59.760
<v Speaker 1>like these are nine legitimately good teams. There're only eight spots.

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:02.279
<v Speaker 1>One really good team is going to be left off.

0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's Brooklyn because whatever chemistry issues happened this summer

0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:10.760
<v Speaker 1>when coaching weirdness and everything, like, maybe that's them. Maybe

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:13.280
<v Speaker 1>it's the Raptors taking a step back. Maybe the Bulls

0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:16.799
<v Speaker 1>were more fraudulent than we thought. Maybe the Calves will

0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:18.759
<v Speaker 1>be injured again and Donovan Mitchell is not going to

0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:21.160
<v Speaker 1>make the difference. I don't know what that's gonna end

0:41:21.200 --> 0:41:25.240
<v Speaker 1>up being, but I feel confident Philly, Milwaukee, Boston, Miami.

0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Let's lock them into four spots. After that, I would

0:41:30.320 --> 0:41:34.239
<v Speaker 1>guess the Calves and the Raptors would probably round that

0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:37.200
<v Speaker 1>out for me of like definites only because I don't

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:40.959
<v Speaker 1>know what Brooklyn's chemistry is gonna be. Alonzo balls injury

0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:43.360
<v Speaker 1>is actually very significant for Chicago because he was a

0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:44.839
<v Speaker 1>He's a big part of what they do on both

0:41:44.880 --> 0:41:48.240
<v Speaker 1>ends of the floor. Um, I know his dad was annoying.

0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Is a good dude, Like he's good, Yeah, he's really good.

0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:56.839
<v Speaker 1>Some real issues physically, I hate to see that. Yeah,

0:41:56.880 --> 0:42:01.560
<v Speaker 1>it's it's tough, um, Atlanta. Maybe there's some weirdness just

0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:03.839
<v Speaker 1>in trying to get everyone on the same page at first.

0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:06.959
<v Speaker 1>We do see some chemistry issues, but just getting that cohesiveness.

0:42:07.600 --> 0:42:09.480
<v Speaker 1>But even then they might be really good right out

0:42:09.520 --> 0:42:11.759
<v Speaker 1>of the gate. I don't know, And so I don't know.

0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I think trying to predict the East of who's just

0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:16.640
<v Speaker 1>going to be in that top six is really difficult.

0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:19.239
<v Speaker 1>If you end up doing whatever bets you can and

0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:21.880
<v Speaker 1>you end up nailing that they should just give you

0:42:21.920 --> 0:42:26.319
<v Speaker 1>a vault, Like, just give you it, Like, I don't know, Like,

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:28.120
<v Speaker 1>here's a vault. We filled it up as much as

0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:30.360
<v Speaker 1>we could. You get it because you guess that correctly.

0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:33.239
<v Speaker 1>You don't think there's any chance and I don't. I

0:42:33.560 --> 0:42:36.120
<v Speaker 1>think there's a small chance that the Heat maybe are

0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:39.319
<v Speaker 1>that bubble team that falls a little only because they're

0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:41.719
<v Speaker 1>a little bit older of a team. Yeah, they're a

0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:45.120
<v Speaker 1>little top heavy. Uh, I don't know. I feel like

0:42:45.120 --> 0:42:48.080
<v Speaker 1>they could be one injury away from like, okay, we

0:42:48.120 --> 0:42:50.000
<v Speaker 1>have to scramble to get to that six C. I

0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 1>don't know that's the team I picked to like, actually

0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:57.080
<v Speaker 1>feel more comfortable about the Raptors than the Raptors. Scare

0:42:57.120 --> 0:42:59.439
<v Speaker 1>me more than the Heat. Yeah. I love this Raptors team.

0:42:59.440 --> 0:43:01.680
<v Speaker 1>They're just so smart and so versatile like I and

0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 1>they can endure pretty much anything. Um. The thing about

0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:06.800
<v Speaker 1>the Heat, though, where I don't think they'll take a

0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:09.239
<v Speaker 1>step back because it it's tough that they lost p J.

0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:11.839
<v Speaker 1>Tucker and didn't really replace him. They have, you know,

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:14.319
<v Speaker 1>still pretty much everyone there, but they had a lot

0:43:14.360 --> 0:43:16.359
<v Speaker 1>of guys missed time last year, Jimmy but missed twenty

0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 1>plus games, Bam out of Bio missed twenty plus games,

0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Kyle Lowry missed a bunch of games, like they had

0:43:20.719 --> 0:43:23.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of missed opportunities. But the reason that that

0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:26.439
<v Speaker 1>team is so good, and you have to mention heat

0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:28.560
<v Speaker 1>culture whenever you talk about the heat otherwise pat Riley

0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:30.239
<v Speaker 1>will come and punch in the face for not saying it.

0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:34.000
<v Speaker 1>But the heat culture, it really does breathe the next

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:36.960
<v Speaker 1>man up mentality, and so they do. Eric Spoelster just

0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:39.440
<v Speaker 1>plugs in the next guy and they're still able to

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:41.920
<v Speaker 1>win regular season games. Maybe that doesn't make them a

0:43:42.000 --> 0:43:44.760
<v Speaker 1>true contender year after year after year in the playoffs,

0:43:44.760 --> 0:43:46.880
<v Speaker 1>but in the regular season, I do think they're built

0:43:46.880 --> 0:43:50.080
<v Speaker 1>to endure that. Assuming guys don't miss forty games, they

0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:53.040
<v Speaker 1>can probably endure twentysothing games. But forty games would start

0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:55.759
<v Speaker 1>being maybe too much to make up for. He's kind

0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:57.359
<v Speaker 1>of been touching on it, but I want to really

0:43:57.400 --> 0:44:01.360
<v Speaker 1>dig into the Brooklyn situation because fascinating and on paper

0:44:01.400 --> 0:44:04.480
<v Speaker 1>they're looking good because we could see obviously Kyrie Katie

0:44:04.480 --> 0:44:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Ben Simmons. Do they contend this year? As as as

0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:11.120
<v Speaker 1>you expand on this, or is Steve Nash fired at

0:44:11.160 --> 0:44:12.840
<v Speaker 1>some point and we see a fire sale at the

0:44:12.880 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 1>trade deadline? Yeah, I mean everything sounds good right now.

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:18.520
<v Speaker 1>They're all saying the right things, but it's easy to

0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:20.560
<v Speaker 1>see the right things. Now, what happens if they lose

0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:23.520
<v Speaker 1>four games in a row November or December or January.

0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:26.080
<v Speaker 1>This thing isn't gonna go away. They could still be

0:44:26.719 --> 0:44:29.160
<v Speaker 1>really good throughout the regular season. I mean, on paper,

0:44:29.800 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Durant, you have Ben Simmons, you have Kyrie Irving,

0:44:31.719 --> 0:44:34.640
<v Speaker 1>you have Seth Curry, you have Nick Klaxson's really good,

0:44:34.680 --> 0:44:37.480
<v Speaker 1>like as in his role. You have Royce O'Neil, who's

0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:40.080
<v Speaker 1>a nice pickup when they lose Bruce Brown, you have um,

0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm missing that's Joe Harrison be back

0:44:43.680 --> 0:44:45.600
<v Speaker 1>and we know he can shoot the lights out. Like

0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:48.840
<v Speaker 1>they have a really good team on paper, But you

0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:52.120
<v Speaker 1>tried to get the coach and the GM fired. That

0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:54.919
<v Speaker 1>has to matter. This isn't a video game like where

0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:57.080
<v Speaker 1>you just okay, guys back and now here we go.

0:44:57.600 --> 0:44:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Kyrie Irving should be on his best behavior because it's

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:03.360
<v Speaker 1>contract year, but it's Kyrie like that's I mean, I

0:45:03.400 --> 0:45:06.399
<v Speaker 1>don't know how you confident that he's gonna be out

0:45:06.440 --> 0:45:09.719
<v Speaker 1>there for as someone who needs stuff to talk about

0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:13.640
<v Speaker 1>every day. I love like he is a content machine

0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:16.839
<v Speaker 1>for us. But you know, Kevin Durant, as great as

0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:19.080
<v Speaker 1>he's been since coming back from the injuries, he still

0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:20.920
<v Speaker 1>misses a bunch of time too, and that's tough to

0:45:20.960 --> 0:45:23.839
<v Speaker 1>make up for. Ben Simmons is better than everyone's been,

0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:25.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of hammering him for over the last

0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:28.319
<v Speaker 1>couple of years. He's still an All NBA defender. He's

0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:30.799
<v Speaker 1>still an All NBA player. He can still get you,

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:33.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, sixteen eight and eight every single night with

0:45:33.560 --> 0:45:36.840
<v Speaker 1>great defense. But is he someone that's going to be

0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:40.000
<v Speaker 1>available every game after what we just saw last season?

0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:43.280
<v Speaker 1>There's just so much on paper that that makes sense,

0:45:43.320 --> 0:45:46.680
<v Speaker 1>and so much in the headlines that makes you just

0:45:46.920 --> 0:45:49.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of cock your head like a like a German

0:45:49.080 --> 0:45:51.279
<v Speaker 1>shepherd wondering if they're getting a treat or something right now,

0:45:51.280 --> 0:45:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Like it's just it's such a weird thing for them.

0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:56.040
<v Speaker 1>And so I don't know. You could tell me Steve

0:45:56.160 --> 0:45:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Nash is gonna be coach of the Air. I'm like, okay,

0:45:57.680 --> 0:45:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I get it. You can tell me he's gonna be

0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:01.799
<v Speaker 1>fired in December, and for sure, I just don't I

0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:05.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know how you predict them if it stays relatively

0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:08.760
<v Speaker 1>on paper. Love their chances, but I don't feel comfortable

0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:10.799
<v Speaker 1>that that's going to happen. I love their chances in

0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:14.960
<v Speaker 1>the regular season. I think the Nets come out super strong.

0:46:15.320 --> 0:46:17.680
<v Speaker 1>I think they make an early statement. I think they

0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:20.640
<v Speaker 1>feed on some teams early. The other elephant in the room.

0:46:20.640 --> 0:46:23.680
<v Speaker 1>There's lots of elephants in Brooklyn, Okay, the most elephants.

0:46:23.719 --> 0:46:28.279
<v Speaker 1>I think they like, there's so many elephants involved. I'm

0:46:28.280 --> 0:46:32.279
<v Speaker 1>actually like, I'm foregoing the regular season. I think they're

0:46:32.280 --> 0:46:35.680
<v Speaker 1>one of those top six easily. I really do. My

0:46:35.960 --> 0:46:39.080
<v Speaker 1>elephant in the room that has been Philly's elephant in

0:46:39.080 --> 0:46:44.240
<v Speaker 1>the room that's now the Nets. Ben Simmons is healthy.

0:46:44.239 --> 0:46:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Can you still and this is always the problem, and

0:46:46.880 --> 0:46:50.000
<v Speaker 1>it remains the problem soil can you play him in

0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:53.800
<v Speaker 1>the fourth quarter of a playoff series? That's the issue.

0:46:54.080 --> 0:46:57.279
<v Speaker 1>And if he's your third best player, which he arguably is,

0:46:57.320 --> 0:46:59.960
<v Speaker 1>and we'll see as long as he's healthy, you still

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:03.400
<v Speaker 1>may have to bench your third best player in the

0:47:03.440 --> 0:47:06.160
<v Speaker 1>fourth quarter of a second round playoff game. I think

0:47:06.239 --> 0:47:09.120
<v Speaker 1>that's the biggest hurdle that they're going to face because

0:47:09.160 --> 0:47:11.400
<v Speaker 1>those questions, they are all still there since the last

0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:15.040
<v Speaker 1>time we saw him play basketball was he's passing up

0:47:15.040 --> 0:47:16.640
<v Speaker 1>a wide open dug. I hate to keep saying it,

0:47:16.719 --> 0:47:19.600
<v Speaker 1>but the other thing is can you hit from the

0:47:19.600 --> 0:47:21.640
<v Speaker 1>foul line? Which he has never proven that he could.

0:47:21.840 --> 0:47:23.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he needs to. He just needs to

0:47:23.560 --> 0:47:25.600
<v Speaker 1>not be afraid to go to the foul line. Like obviously,

0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:27.200
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to miss free throws. You need to

0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:30.280
<v Speaker 1>make a decent amount of them. But the reason Jannice

0:47:30.360 --> 0:47:31.960
<v Speaker 1>is so well, there are a lot of reasons is

0:47:31.960 --> 0:47:33.719
<v Speaker 1>so great. But one of the reasons Janice is so

0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:37.080
<v Speaker 1>great is he's not a good free throw shooter, but

0:47:37.239 --> 0:47:40.200
<v Speaker 1>he's not deterred from just being a battering ram and

0:47:40.239 --> 0:47:42.359
<v Speaker 1>trying to knock down whatever is in front of him.

0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Get foul, go to the free throw line. Ben Simmons

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:48.000
<v Speaker 1>isn't quite the physical specimen that Janice is, but he's

0:47:48.040 --> 0:47:51.880
<v Speaker 1>six ten to forty, crazy athletic, very strong when not

0:47:51.920 --> 0:47:56.120
<v Speaker 1>going against Johanne like like he's he's physically capable of

0:47:56.520 --> 0:47:59.399
<v Speaker 1>doing a lot of that stuff. And yes, he may

0:47:59.600 --> 0:48:01.560
<v Speaker 1>go one of two from the free throw line every

0:48:01.600 --> 0:48:06.520
<v Speaker 1>single time, but the accumulation of yeah, but you get

0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:09.240
<v Speaker 1>the other team in foul trouble, and then Kevin Durant

0:48:09.320 --> 0:48:11.080
<v Speaker 1>draws a Tiki Tach foul, he goes to the free

0:48:11.080 --> 0:48:13.520
<v Speaker 1>throw line for two. Kyrie Irving gets a Tiki Tach foul,

0:48:13.600 --> 0:48:15.000
<v Speaker 1>He goes to the the free throw line for two. Like

0:48:15.040 --> 0:48:18.959
<v Speaker 1>there is this effect of if Ben Simmons can realize, yes,

0:48:19.440 --> 0:48:21.160
<v Speaker 1>I may be laughed at the free throw line, but

0:48:21.239 --> 0:48:23.920
<v Speaker 1>overall this is going to help us. You can absolutely

0:48:23.920 --> 0:48:26.640
<v Speaker 1>play him in the fourth quarter. It's when he's afraid

0:48:26.680 --> 0:48:29.520
<v Speaker 1>of the contact because he doesn't want that spotlight moment

0:48:29.560 --> 0:48:31.680
<v Speaker 1>of being at the free throw line. That's the trouble.

0:48:31.840 --> 0:48:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he gets mitigated by the idea that Kyrie and

0:48:34.880 --> 0:48:37.359
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Durant can set up the offense at any point,

0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Seth Curry as well to a certain degree, Like they

0:48:39.640 --> 0:48:41.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't really have that in Philly. Philly, they needed Ben

0:48:41.560 --> 0:48:43.400
<v Speaker 1>Simmons to get everybody into their sets, so it was

0:48:43.440 --> 0:48:45.960
<v Speaker 1>a little more difficult. But yeah, like, just be a

0:48:46.000 --> 0:48:48.719
<v Speaker 1>battering ram. You can get laughed at, but then laugh

0:48:48.760 --> 0:48:50.480
<v Speaker 1>in the next round of the playoffs at the people

0:48:50.480 --> 0:48:52.399
<v Speaker 1>who are laughing at you the two things. I look

0:48:52.480 --> 0:48:56.080
<v Speaker 1>at our honest two years the year before the championship

0:48:56.120 --> 0:48:58.719
<v Speaker 1>here had free throw problems. He corrected those when they

0:48:58.719 --> 0:49:00.920
<v Speaker 1>won the champions He's actually great from that. I think

0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:03.400
<v Speaker 1>in that clinching game he's like eighteen for nineteen or

0:49:03.480 --> 0:49:07.000
<v Speaker 1>something like crazy like that. So I don't know. I

0:49:07.080 --> 0:49:09.600
<v Speaker 1>just look at it like when they're playing in the

0:49:09.640 --> 0:49:11.520
<v Speaker 1>fourth quarter of a playoff games, you're playing a team

0:49:11.520 --> 0:49:14.399
<v Speaker 1>like Miami or Toronto, and they're literally you don't have

0:49:14.520 --> 0:49:18.160
<v Speaker 1>to guard a player on their team. It just makes

0:49:18.160 --> 0:49:20.120
<v Speaker 1>it a lot easier. I mean, you're right, Duran Kyrie

0:49:20.120 --> 0:49:22.200
<v Speaker 1>could mitigate all of that, that's how good they are.

0:49:22.280 --> 0:49:25.320
<v Speaker 1>But I think it's four v five until he's shown

0:49:25.360 --> 0:49:27.759
<v Speaker 1>he could make one out of two free throws. I

0:49:27.800 --> 0:49:31.080
<v Speaker 1>will say, like in that game seven, he did shut

0:49:31.120 --> 0:49:33.680
<v Speaker 1>down trade on right like for a lot like tray

0:49:33.760 --> 0:49:35.920
<v Speaker 1>On win like four for eighteen in that game, and

0:49:36.040 --> 0:49:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Ben Simmons was guarding him so defensively. He's still is

0:49:40.040 --> 0:49:44.359
<v Speaker 1>very significant in a very positive way. But when he says, yeah,

0:49:44.360 --> 0:49:47.360
<v Speaker 1>I turned and saw a jersey saw Hawks jersey, so

0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:49.719
<v Speaker 1>I decided to pass this like that. Hawks jerseys eight

0:49:49.719 --> 0:49:51.880
<v Speaker 1>inches shorter than you what are you talking about? You

0:49:51.920 --> 0:49:55.160
<v Speaker 1>saw Hawks Jersey? You saw over the Hawks Jersey, Like

0:49:55.200 --> 0:49:57.640
<v Speaker 1>there's no way and so yeah, like he's just gonna

0:49:57.680 --> 0:50:00.560
<v Speaker 1>he will have to prove whatever that meant hurdle is

0:50:00.600 --> 0:50:02.880
<v Speaker 1>that he that he can clear it. Okay, let's go

0:50:02.920 --> 0:50:04.879
<v Speaker 1>to the West for a little bit. Lebron James going

0:50:04.920 --> 0:50:06.960
<v Speaker 1>into your twenty and I'm not sure how much this

0:50:07.040 --> 0:50:10.759
<v Speaker 1>Lakers team really improved. They added Pat Beverley, who I love,

0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:13.640
<v Speaker 1>but he's had a contentious history with Russ and Anthony

0:50:13.719 --> 0:50:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Davis has already been out with back spasms. What's the

0:50:16.920 --> 0:50:20.080
<v Speaker 1>ceiling for this team this year at one? I love

0:50:20.120 --> 0:50:22.400
<v Speaker 1>that we're already getting stories of like Russ and Pattern

0:50:22.440 --> 0:50:30.640
<v Speaker 1>friends now like yeah, absolutely, yeah, exactly. They're on the

0:50:30.640 --> 0:50:33.160
<v Speaker 1>beach together just training like it's great. It's Apollo and

0:50:33.280 --> 0:50:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Rocky all over again. Um No, Like I I mean,

0:50:36.760 --> 0:50:40.280
<v Speaker 1>I think it's really good for the Lakers that Lebron

0:50:40.360 --> 0:50:43.200
<v Speaker 1>is approaching this Kaream record because you can distract from

0:50:43.239 --> 0:50:45.919
<v Speaker 1>all the losses with Hey, come check out Lebron James

0:50:46.000 --> 0:50:48.960
<v Speaker 1>as he marches towards the all time scoring record. I

0:50:49.080 --> 0:50:54.760
<v Speaker 1>don't see unless there's just a crazy rash of injuries throughout.

0:50:55.440 --> 0:50:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't see how they finished in the top six

0:50:57.880 --> 0:51:01.960
<v Speaker 1>at all unless they're very healthy. I don't see how

0:51:02.360 --> 0:51:05.239
<v Speaker 1>the Lakers are even like the seven seed in the

0:51:05.280 --> 0:51:08.080
<v Speaker 1>playing tournament. I think this team is gonna be really bad.

0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:10.160
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Davis is not someone you can rely on to

0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:12.239
<v Speaker 1>be healthy on the court. Lebron James has not been

0:51:12.280 --> 0:51:14.719
<v Speaker 1>healthy and reliable to be on the court consistently since

0:51:14.719 --> 0:51:17.319
<v Speaker 1>he joined the Lakers, other than the season where they

0:51:17.320 --> 0:51:20.040
<v Speaker 1>won the title. Pat Beverley helps a lot. They really

0:51:20.080 --> 0:51:22.839
<v Speaker 1>need a player like him. But Jovan Buja, who covers

0:51:22.840 --> 0:51:25.239
<v Speaker 1>the Lakers for the Athletic this was before the Pat

0:51:25.239 --> 0:51:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Beverley trade, but he was kind of looking at what

0:51:28.040 --> 0:51:30.440
<v Speaker 1>they're closing lineup could be the season, and it was

0:51:30.520 --> 0:51:34.960
<v Speaker 1>essentially Lebron and a d Austin Reeves want to Scano Anderson,

0:51:35.120 --> 0:51:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Troy Brown Jr. Of like who he thinks Darvin Ham

0:51:37.520 --> 0:51:41.920
<v Speaker 1>will trust and clutch moments. I beg any random person

0:51:41.920 --> 0:51:43.520
<v Speaker 1>on the street to be able to point out Austin

0:51:43.560 --> 0:51:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Reeves or Troy Brown Jr. Or want to Scano Anderson

0:51:46.600 --> 0:51:48.480
<v Speaker 1>to me, like there's just like that, like good for

0:51:48.520 --> 0:51:51.319
<v Speaker 1>them their NBA players. It's not like their talentless, but

0:51:51.920 --> 0:51:54.239
<v Speaker 1>those are not guys who should be closing games ever,

0:51:54.760 --> 0:51:56.400
<v Speaker 1>that's just not and the Lakers are gonna have to

0:51:56.400 --> 0:51:58.239
<v Speaker 1>put probably two of those guys out there now that

0:51:58.280 --> 0:52:01.839
<v Speaker 1>Pat Beverley is there. I just don't think I think

0:52:02.000 --> 0:52:03.839
<v Speaker 1>so much. I mean, we talked about the what if game.

0:52:04.160 --> 0:52:06.560
<v Speaker 1>We're like thirteen deep into the what if game to

0:52:06.560 --> 0:52:09.360
<v Speaker 1>get the Lakers just to be a team that matters

0:52:09.360 --> 0:52:12.200
<v Speaker 1>in a really positive way and can be a problem.

0:52:12.280 --> 0:52:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Like I think at this point, anyone who's not writing

0:52:15.120 --> 0:52:19.240
<v Speaker 1>them off is just that's respect out of Lebron's resume.

0:52:19.480 --> 0:52:22.239
<v Speaker 1>That is respect out of watching Lebron carry teams. He

0:52:22.320 --> 0:52:25.040
<v Speaker 1>can still do it offensively. He was a bad defender

0:52:25.120 --> 0:52:27.560
<v Speaker 1>last year, and maybe there was no incentive to be

0:52:27.680 --> 0:52:29.520
<v Speaker 1>good defensively because the rest of team was so bad.

0:52:29.560 --> 0:52:31.640
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think it's reasonable to ask a guy

0:52:32.040 --> 0:52:34.640
<v Speaker 1>year twenty to carry a team on both ends of

0:52:34.640 --> 0:52:36.560
<v Speaker 1>the floor, and they don't really have the personnel to

0:52:36.560 --> 0:52:39.000
<v Speaker 1>help out with that. Stay in l a though a

0:52:39.080 --> 0:52:43.319
<v Speaker 1>team you're talking about the Lakers closing five. I can't

0:52:43.320 --> 0:52:45.759
<v Speaker 1>ignore this. And it's so hard because you just never

0:52:45.840 --> 0:52:48.120
<v Speaker 1>know what the health is going to be that closing

0:52:48.200 --> 0:52:51.240
<v Speaker 1>five of the Clippers, which could go a few different ways.

0:52:51.320 --> 0:52:54.120
<v Speaker 1>But if everyone is healthy, if you're looking at Reggie

0:52:54.200 --> 0:52:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Jackson or John Wall or both, who knows whoever is

0:52:57.000 --> 0:52:59.759
<v Speaker 1>playing better. You still have Luke Kenard, still have Terrence Man,

0:53:00.040 --> 0:53:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Paul George Kawai. There gonna get another center to backup

0:53:03.440 --> 0:53:05.880
<v Speaker 1>zoo back at some point? Is this the year we

0:53:05.920 --> 0:53:09.319
<v Speaker 1>finally get the Clippers that we've been waiting for, Like,

0:53:09.800 --> 0:53:11.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, the Prince that's going to save us all

0:53:11.880 --> 0:53:14.080
<v Speaker 1>because we've been waiting, we haven't really seen it. We

0:53:14.120 --> 0:53:15.959
<v Speaker 1>saw for a flash in the bubble and it wasn't

0:53:16.160 --> 0:53:19.200
<v Speaker 1>very good. Is it happening? Unfortunately Prince is usually out

0:53:19.239 --> 0:53:21.280
<v Speaker 1>because of a knee injury, right, the one that's supposed

0:53:21.280 --> 0:53:23.600
<v Speaker 1>to save us, Like, that's that's the issue. Um, if

0:53:23.640 --> 0:53:25.719
<v Speaker 1>you tell me, like even if you tell me like, hey,

0:53:25.840 --> 0:53:27.480
<v Speaker 1>those guys are only gonna play sixty games this year,

0:53:27.520 --> 0:53:29.680
<v Speaker 1>but they'll be healthy for the playoffs, I'm in right,

0:53:29.800 --> 0:53:31.759
<v Speaker 1>get them healthy for the playoffs. I'm completely in on

0:53:31.760 --> 0:53:33.560
<v Speaker 1>this Clippers team. I just don't know how you trust

0:53:33.600 --> 0:53:36.319
<v Speaker 1>that at this point because of the injury issues. Like

0:53:36.800 --> 0:53:39.680
<v Speaker 1>that team. The great thing about that Clippers roster is

0:53:40.920 --> 0:53:43.600
<v Speaker 1>even when they go small, they play bit like because

0:53:43.640 --> 0:53:46.440
<v Speaker 1>everyone six or eight, everyone's strong, like you, you can

0:53:46.719 --> 0:53:49.480
<v Speaker 1>you can be so versatile with that group and not

0:53:49.560 --> 0:53:51.960
<v Speaker 1>really lose a whole lot unless like you're going against

0:53:51.960 --> 0:53:58.120
<v Speaker 1>a Yokich or an Embiide or one of those monsters centers. Yeah, exactly. Um,

0:53:58.239 --> 0:54:00.440
<v Speaker 1>like you could go they could go small, even a

0:54:00.440 --> 0:54:02.440
<v Speaker 1>team like the Timberwolves, and I would feel like they

0:54:02.480 --> 0:54:04.680
<v Speaker 1>have the physical advantage like they It's just and they're

0:54:04.760 --> 0:54:07.239
<v Speaker 1>so well coached. Tyler was such a good coach. He's

0:54:07.239 --> 0:54:09.360
<v Speaker 1>been able to separate himself from well you want a

0:54:09.400 --> 0:54:11.319
<v Speaker 1>title because Lebron was a player, Like, No, that dude's

0:54:11.360 --> 0:54:13.439
<v Speaker 1>a good coach. You look at what that Clippers team

0:54:13.440 --> 0:54:15.960
<v Speaker 1>had last year, and they were as competitive as they

0:54:16.000 --> 0:54:18.879
<v Speaker 1>were with Reggie Jackson Luke Kennard as their two most

0:54:18.880 --> 0:54:23.080
<v Speaker 1>consistent best players. That's great coaching. They were great defensively

0:54:23.160 --> 0:54:26.080
<v Speaker 1>last year without Kauai the whole season without Paul George

0:54:26.080 --> 0:54:28.839
<v Speaker 1>for a big chunk of it. That team is super deep,

0:54:28.880 --> 0:54:32.319
<v Speaker 1>they're super talented. They're just super injured all the time.

0:54:32.360 --> 0:54:34.759
<v Speaker 1>And so if if they're healthy, I think I think

0:54:34.760 --> 0:54:36.840
<v Speaker 1>they're as good as anybody. I think they're title contenders

0:54:36.840 --> 0:54:39.439
<v Speaker 1>and they can they can beat literally anybody that's thrown

0:54:39.480 --> 0:54:42.120
<v Speaker 1>at them. I just I gotta see Quai out there

0:54:42.160 --> 0:54:45.239
<v Speaker 1>for for the full playoffs. Yeah, if they're healthy. That

0:54:45.320 --> 0:54:49.280
<v Speaker 1>closing five to me, I don't know. You can't score

0:54:49.320 --> 0:54:51.400
<v Speaker 1>not and you can't stop it, like it really is

0:54:51.520 --> 0:54:53.880
<v Speaker 1>that incredible. You just have to hope that, you know,

0:54:53.880 --> 0:54:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Paul george Is is not clutching, he ends up with

0:54:55.960 --> 0:54:57.799
<v Speaker 1>the ball. Like that's really the all you can hope for.

0:54:58.160 --> 0:55:00.520
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna stay out West for a little bit longer,

0:55:00.520 --> 0:55:02.720
<v Speaker 1>but we're gonna close with the Knicks. I'm just preparing

0:55:02.719 --> 0:55:07.560
<v Speaker 1>everybody just two hours on the Knicks and then we're

0:55:07.560 --> 0:55:09.400
<v Speaker 1>going to get right a few more minutes here and

0:55:09.440 --> 0:55:12.640
<v Speaker 1>then probably till yeah, about until month, until Thursday night

0:55:12.640 --> 0:55:16.719
<v Speaker 1>football kicks off and then Okay. We talked about the

0:55:16.760 --> 0:55:19.239
<v Speaker 1>East being so deep, especially when you get like six

0:55:19.320 --> 0:55:22.480
<v Speaker 1>through twelve almost I think that the West is not

0:55:22.600 --> 0:55:25.120
<v Speaker 1>quite as deep, but they're really top heavy. But the

0:55:25.160 --> 0:55:27.520
<v Speaker 1>teams that I'm looking at that I have my biggest

0:55:27.600 --> 0:55:29.600
<v Speaker 1>question marks of who are you going to be this year?

0:55:30.000 --> 0:55:32.600
<v Speaker 1>I think the Grizzlies are gonna be good. It's the

0:55:32.680 --> 0:55:36.040
<v Speaker 1>Sun's like, has your window closed? Can you recover from

0:55:36.080 --> 0:55:39.319
<v Speaker 1>that awful playoff performance that we saw? And the team

0:55:39.320 --> 0:55:41.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm most excited about. We mentioned it in the football way,

0:55:41.960 --> 0:55:44.880
<v Speaker 1>like the Russell Wilson trade. If you're the Pelicans, you

0:55:44.960 --> 0:55:48.560
<v Speaker 1>traded Anthony Davis away. Yes, the Lakers got a bubble championship,

0:55:48.560 --> 0:55:50.719
<v Speaker 1>and you have all these picks on the team that,

0:55:51.040 --> 0:55:54.200
<v Speaker 1>like you said, might not be there even close to

0:55:54.239 --> 0:55:58.000
<v Speaker 1>there in the end. Pelicans and the Sun's okay, where

0:55:58.120 --> 0:56:01.320
<v Speaker 1>do we stack them up in the top heavy West?

0:56:01.840 --> 0:56:04.000
<v Speaker 1>The Suns are still deep? Like the Jake Crowder stuff

0:56:04.040 --> 0:56:05.800
<v Speaker 1>is kind of weird that like just all of a sudden,

0:56:05.840 --> 0:56:08.959
<v Speaker 1>he's like he's gone right like camp, Yeah he wants

0:56:08.960 --> 0:56:11.040
<v Speaker 1>to ring, and but like you should be able to

0:56:11.320 --> 0:56:13.120
<v Speaker 1>win a ring in Phoenix, Like that's a good team.

0:56:13.120 --> 0:56:17.600
<v Speaker 1>But also DeAndre Aton and Monte Williams didn't talk like

0:56:17.640 --> 0:56:19.319
<v Speaker 1>it was media days, Like I haven't talked to him

0:56:19.320 --> 0:56:21.240
<v Speaker 1>since Game seven. I haven't talked to coaching game seven.

0:56:21.600 --> 0:56:23.920
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. You signed a hundred and thirty million dollar

0:56:24.000 --> 0:56:25.719
<v Speaker 1>deal with them. I mean you had you were forced

0:56:25.760 --> 0:56:27.600
<v Speaker 1>into it because of the restrictive free agency. But like

0:56:28.080 --> 0:56:29.839
<v Speaker 1>you signed a deal and you didn't hear from him,

0:56:29.960 --> 0:56:32.560
<v Speaker 1>or you didn't like choose to hit him back or

0:56:32.600 --> 0:56:34.839
<v Speaker 1>something like that, Like that's crazy, and so there could

0:56:34.840 --> 0:56:37.080
<v Speaker 1>be some real chemistry problems. Also, we have to be

0:56:37.120 --> 0:56:39.840
<v Speaker 1>aware that as great as Chris Paul is, the deeper

0:56:39.880 --> 0:56:42.720
<v Speaker 1>you get into a marriage with him in the NBA,

0:56:42.760 --> 0:56:46.319
<v Speaker 1>whether it's the Clippers or the Hornets, Pelicans or whatever, like,

0:56:46.960 --> 0:56:49.120
<v Speaker 1>as the years go on, he starts grading on his

0:56:49.160 --> 0:56:51.600
<v Speaker 1>teammates like he just does, and so that's got to

0:56:51.640 --> 0:56:54.399
<v Speaker 1>be coming at some point. Even for a group like that,

0:56:54.680 --> 0:56:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Phoenix should still be regular season good, playoff good like that.

0:56:59.280 --> 0:57:01.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, may be you know, there are reports that

0:57:01.320 --> 0:57:03.640
<v Speaker 1>they had they got hit with COVID right before Game seven,

0:57:03.719 --> 0:57:06.200
<v Speaker 1>and so maybe that really affected it. I don't know

0:57:06.239 --> 0:57:07.879
<v Speaker 1>what to make out of that collapse. But you lose

0:57:07.920 --> 0:57:11.399
<v Speaker 1>bys at home for a game seven, like there there's

0:57:11.440 --> 0:57:13.880
<v Speaker 1>some issues there and so they can get over it.

0:57:13.960 --> 0:57:16.360
<v Speaker 1>But the Pelicans, this is an important thing to remember

0:57:16.360 --> 0:57:18.800
<v Speaker 1>about the Pelicans. They got off to an awful start

0:57:18.880 --> 0:57:20.840
<v Speaker 1>last season because of injuries, because of a lot of stuff.

0:57:21.240 --> 0:57:23.720
<v Speaker 1>The last sixty three games of the year, they were

0:57:23.760 --> 0:57:26.560
<v Speaker 1>thirty three and thirty like they were above five hundred

0:57:26.560 --> 0:57:27.720
<v Speaker 1>team for most of year, but they had a losing

0:57:27.720 --> 0:57:30.720
<v Speaker 1>record because the start was so bad. Willie Green can coach,

0:57:30.840 --> 0:57:32.920
<v Speaker 1>he can flat out coach. There's a lot of talent

0:57:32.960 --> 0:57:35.600
<v Speaker 1>on that team. They played a lot of rookies last year,

0:57:35.800 --> 0:57:37.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of young guys, and they got They soaked

0:57:37.520 --> 0:57:39.400
<v Speaker 1>up all that experience. They figured out how to fit

0:57:39.440 --> 0:57:43.320
<v Speaker 1>their role. And now you bring Zion back. We have

0:57:43.360 --> 0:57:47.360
<v Speaker 1>to remember Zion is a monster. His second year in

0:57:47.360 --> 0:57:51.160
<v Speaker 1>the NBA is something nobody had done. Twenty seven points

0:57:51.160 --> 0:57:54.720
<v Speaker 1>a game on six shooting. Will didn't do that, Ron

0:57:54.760 --> 0:57:57.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't do that, Shock didn't do that, Jordan didn't do

0:57:57.760 --> 0:57:59.520
<v Speaker 1>no one had done that in their second year except

0:57:59.560 --> 0:58:02.400
<v Speaker 1>for Zion. Like he is an absolute scoring machine and

0:58:02.440 --> 0:58:04.520
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't really know what he's doing out there. So

0:58:04.560 --> 0:58:07.320
<v Speaker 1>as he gets more experienced with those guys, it's just

0:58:07.360 --> 0:58:10.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna be scary. You have to worry about injuries because C. J.

0:58:10.360 --> 0:58:13.640
<v Speaker 1>McCollums had injury issues, Ingram's head injury issues obviously Zion,

0:58:14.000 --> 0:58:15.959
<v Speaker 1>but that team is so good. Like if you told

0:58:15.960 --> 0:58:18.840
<v Speaker 1>me you're back from the future and you saw and

0:58:18.920 --> 0:58:21.240
<v Speaker 1>there were the second seed in the West, I believe

0:58:21.240 --> 0:58:24.040
<v Speaker 1>it like they're they're going to be so good. Herb

0:58:24.120 --> 0:58:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Jones alert, we did not mention herb Jones. We love her. Yeah, sorry,

0:58:27.640 --> 0:58:32.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't want Pelicans Twitter to be at her Jones

0:58:32.840 --> 0:58:36.400
<v Speaker 1>the Alvarado Treby. Yeah, all those guys, they're all good. Okay, Well,

0:58:36.400 --> 0:58:40.400
<v Speaker 1>obviously we're a betting show and live down. Church is

0:58:40.400 --> 0:58:42.960
<v Speaker 1>the m v P favorite at plus four hundred, followed

0:58:42.960 --> 0:58:46.120
<v Speaker 1>by Joel at plus six undred than Janice plus six fifty.

0:58:46.320 --> 0:58:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Who is your super early MVP favorite? If someone calls

0:58:50.000 --> 0:58:52.760
<v Speaker 1>back from the future tells you who want it all? Uh,

0:58:52.880 --> 0:58:54.800
<v Speaker 1>isn't it crazy? Yokich isn't up there at all? Like

0:58:54.840 --> 0:58:57.000
<v Speaker 1>back to back m vps. They're gonna be really good,

0:58:57.040 --> 0:58:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Like they're gonna probably win sixty games if they can

0:58:59.000 --> 0:59:06.840
<v Speaker 1>stay healthy like it, but he would have to he might.

0:59:07.280 --> 0:59:11.040
<v Speaker 1>I think I think Himbat is an interesting pick. There

0:59:11.080 --> 0:59:15.080
<v Speaker 1>can I go off the board like super Dark off Menu.

0:59:15.200 --> 0:59:18.160
<v Speaker 1>We love off Menu. The media loves him. They're gonna

0:59:18.200 --> 0:59:20.600
<v Speaker 1>have a bounce back year. He puts up great stats.

0:59:20.640 --> 0:59:23.720
<v Speaker 1>He's almost infallible as a guy in terms of reputation.

0:59:23.880 --> 0:59:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Damian Lillard could be the MVP if they finished. If

0:59:27.160 --> 0:59:29.240
<v Speaker 1>they finished sixth in the West, which usually have to

0:59:29.280 --> 0:59:32.000
<v Speaker 1>be higher than that. But like that team, that team

0:59:32.120 --> 0:59:36.200
<v Speaker 1>had the most loss so before last season, the record

0:59:36.240 --> 0:59:38.600
<v Speaker 1>for most thirty point losses in the season was ten,

0:59:39.000 --> 0:59:40.960
<v Speaker 1>but I think like the ninety one Nuggets or something

0:59:41.000 --> 0:59:44.680
<v Speaker 1>like that, they had fifteen last year. They shattered the record,

0:59:44.720 --> 0:59:48.200
<v Speaker 1>like they tanked so hard or sorry they played young guys, right,

0:59:48.240 --> 0:59:49.880
<v Speaker 1>you have to be careful about how you've heard that

0:59:50.440 --> 0:59:52.560
<v Speaker 1>they lost so hard the second half of the season

0:59:53.200 --> 0:59:55.280
<v Speaker 1>and kind of intentionally once they realized like they didn't

0:59:55.280 --> 0:59:57.320
<v Speaker 1>have they traded off guys. Dame sat out like all

0:59:57.320 --> 0:59:59.880
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. This team's gonna bounce back. They made great

1:00:00.080 --> 1:00:03.800
<v Speaker 1>offseason moves. If they're like forty eight and thirty four

1:00:04.200 --> 1:00:06.800
<v Speaker 1>and sixth or fifth in the West. Ever, like Dame

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<v Speaker 1>is going to have a monster campaign to have. Like

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm going away from the favorites, like Dame would

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<v Speaker 1>be the guy that I throw out there as my

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<v Speaker 1>dark horse. I'm trying to find his odds, like they're

1:00:19.720 --> 1:00:22.520
<v Speaker 1>so down the list that I really think he could

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<v Speaker 1>be a massive, massive pick. I'm taking it because also

1:00:25.280 --> 1:00:27.920
<v Speaker 1>to I even just someone was just talking about like

1:00:27.960 --> 1:00:30.479
<v Speaker 1>the catch and shoot stats from like Simon's when playing

1:00:30.480 --> 1:00:33.320
<v Speaker 1>with Dave and like CJ mccollo, CJ has been great

1:00:33.320 --> 1:00:36.560
<v Speaker 1>without Dame, but he does make everyone better as well.

1:00:36.600 --> 1:00:39.680
<v Speaker 1>If we could see a healthy nurkics healthy nurk Jeremy

1:00:39.680 --> 1:00:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Grants there, they picked up gart was a heart's a

1:00:43.360 --> 1:00:45.880
<v Speaker 1>great addition. Not here little had a really good year

1:00:46.040 --> 1:00:48.080
<v Speaker 1>like that. That team, that team is going to be good,

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<v Speaker 1>like we got Gary Payton. Yeah, it's funny with we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about so much about like, oh, what could the

1:00:53.960 --> 1:00:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Lakers be? What could the Lakers be? I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>the Lakers are better than Portland's. Like that's the thing, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think this Portland team is gonna be good. Zack,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all on that bet. None of this this like

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<v Speaker 1>it's wrong on that best odds in the NBA at

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<v Speaker 1>plus five thousand plus. Oh all over it? All right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>can you guys indulge me now for five minutes before

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<v Speaker 1>we let Zach go? No, no, I don't you jump

1:01:23.440 --> 1:01:27.760
<v Speaker 1>in here, Olivia. You should absolutely criticize me. Right, last

1:01:27.800 --> 1:01:30.560
<v Speaker 1>I spoke to our friend Zach Harper. You were weren't

1:01:30.560 --> 1:01:36.600
<v Speaker 1>you hosting for Envy? Yeah? Radio? Right? So yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>was on promoting this very podcast, And I think it

1:01:39.280 --> 1:01:42.160
<v Speaker 1>was Zach who asked me or someone who if you

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<v Speaker 1>had to make your pitch to Donovan Mitchell of like

1:01:44.280 --> 1:01:47.840
<v Speaker 1>why New York I went on this rant. It actually

1:01:47.880 --> 1:01:49.440
<v Speaker 1>was all over Twitter the next day. It was one

1:01:49.440 --> 1:01:53.640
<v Speaker 1>of my better rants about someone's gonna bring a title

1:01:53.680 --> 1:01:55.920
<v Speaker 1>to the Knicks. It was minutes, so we had to

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<v Speaker 1>blow past all these commercial breaks. It was fantastic. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So now, like every Nick van it's like the girl

1:02:02.320 --> 1:02:04.360
<v Speaker 1>who turned me down when I asked her to dance,

1:02:04.400 --> 1:02:06.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of like she wasn't really all that anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sort of doing that with the Donovan Mitchell trade. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm glad the Nicks didn't trade for Donovan Mitchell.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at all the young pieces we got in hindsight

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<v Speaker 1>and they'll play itself out. Should the Knicks have thrown

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<v Speaker 1>the whole farm at Donovan Mitchell? I still say no,

1:02:22.160 --> 1:02:25.320
<v Speaker 1>but I'm jaded, Yeah, I mean for what he ended

1:02:25.360 --> 1:02:27.800
<v Speaker 1>up going for, I mean what it was rumored. Like

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<v Speaker 1>when they're saying like it's got to be even a

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<v Speaker 1>greater draft haul than than what they got for Gobert. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't do that for Donovan Mitchell for what had

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<v Speaker 1>ended up being Colin Sexton Larry Marking in three picks

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<v Speaker 1>in a swap. Yeah, I like, I think it's doable.

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<v Speaker 1>The argument against it is he doesn't really fit with

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<v Speaker 1>what they have, and my view of like, well create

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<v Speaker 1>something better than what you have, like what you have

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<v Speaker 1>just got to like yeah, I mean, like everything's gonna matter,

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<v Speaker 1>like whether they got Dono Mitchell or not, everything's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>matter on who is Julius Randle this year? That is

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<v Speaker 1>the he sucked last year. He was so bad, Like

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<v Speaker 1>that's probably the worst we've ever seen him play. He

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<v Speaker 1>was fighting with fans like it, like that was that

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<v Speaker 1>was as hopefully as rock bottom as it gets for him,

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<v Speaker 1>especially on that stage with that media and that scrutiny

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<v Speaker 1>and everything. If he bounces back, that's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>really nice team. I love the Gym and Brunson pick up.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm not a Big four guy, so that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's gonna be tough. But I love R. J. Barrett.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that the deal they gave him was really smart,

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<v Speaker 1>really good, and it's easy for him to justify that.

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<v Speaker 1>The young guys the bench has been a strength for them.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the question I have the most with them

1:03:32.440 --> 1:03:36.160
<v Speaker 1>is outside of Julius Randall is probably like, just what's

1:03:36.160 --> 1:03:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Tom Thibodeau gonna do? Is his leash very short with

1:03:39.680 --> 1:03:42.040
<v Speaker 1>the front office? Or is he gonna be allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>coach his way? Is he gonna play the young guys,

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<v Speaker 1>which historically he does not or does he recognize? Like no,

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<v Speaker 1>these are the the guys that galvanized that second unit,

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<v Speaker 1>and these are the guys that are going to make

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<v Speaker 1>a big difference for them. What's Mitchell Robinson gonna be? Defensively,

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of him is great. The application of him

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<v Speaker 1>has been a lot of jumping at nothing and then

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<v Speaker 1>you got an easy road the basket Like I probably

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<v Speaker 1>would have traded for Donovan Mitchell because as good as

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<v Speaker 1>I think Quentin Grimes can be or any of those

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<v Speaker 1>young guys, Donovan Mitchell is that it's the whole family

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<v Speaker 1>guy thing of would you like the boat or the

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<v Speaker 1>mystery boxes? Like the mystery box could be anything. It

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<v Speaker 1>could be a boat, like you know, or you could

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<v Speaker 1>just have the boat right like I would rather the

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<v Speaker 1>Donovan Mitchell and try to grow and build outside of that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I understand why they didn't do it. You just

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<v Speaker 1>have to hope that everything gels together, because that's another

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<v Speaker 1>team with a lot of what ifs. So I believe

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<v Speaker 1>they're over under thirty eight and a half win total

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<v Speaker 1>for the Knicks. If I'm if I'm off, or if

1:04:35.840 --> 1:04:38.040
<v Speaker 1>it's changed, that's the last time I remember looking, so

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<v Speaker 1>say it is thirty eight. Now, I'm gonna make a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a case before you give your answer.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna let you go with the old But I think,

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<v Speaker 1>and again total Homer, I think the Knicks are closer

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<v Speaker 1>to the four seed from two years ago than they

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<v Speaker 1>are whatever they were the eleventh seed this year. My

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<v Speaker 1>reasons being they legitimately did not have a point guard

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<v Speaker 1>last year. Derek Rose missed a ton of time, even

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<v Speaker 1>like the stability of Alfred Peyton to start, but Derrick

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<v Speaker 1>Rose played a majority of the minutes. You know, Alec

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<v Speaker 1>Brooks was running point guard. I think Alec Brooks was

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<v Speaker 1>the most mistreated player in the NBA. People were criticizing

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<v Speaker 1>his numbers. He was playing point guard a majority of

1:05:17.320 --> 1:05:20.000
<v Speaker 1>the time. That's not what he should be. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think having Brunson, having Rose and that stability of actually

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<v Speaker 1>having real point guards. If they could stay healthy, I

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<v Speaker 1>think they make that over easy and really compete for

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<v Speaker 1>the sixth seed. And I think there're a lock for

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<v Speaker 1>the plane. If you had a guess right now, thirty

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<v Speaker 1>eight and a half over under Nick's total barring relative health, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you have to say right now? I would guess,

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<v Speaker 1>like I think that's about aim, But I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is why the oddsmakers are so good,

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<v Speaker 1>right because I look at thirty and a half, great number,

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<v Speaker 1>real to number, Like how do I push on thirty

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<v Speaker 1>and a half? Like how can they get a half way?

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<v Speaker 1>Like that feels about right to me, like relative health,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that should be a five hundred team. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of talent. I don't know how that talent fits together.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the issue, right, Like, I don't know how much

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<v Speaker 1>of that fits together. But there's a lot of talent

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<v Speaker 1>on that team. And maybe I'm just like I've always

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<v Speaker 1>been an R J. Barrett guy, so I think that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of colors me a little bit. I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>been misused. I think I think Tips could could use

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<v Speaker 1>him a lot better as an initiator. But that team

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<v Speaker 1>should be at worst tenth in the East in the

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<v Speaker 1>playing tournament, ready to go, Like they should be better

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<v Speaker 1>than Washington, they should be better than Charlotte, especially with

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<v Speaker 1>this LaMelo ball injury and everything that happened with Miles Bridges.

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<v Speaker 1>They should be you know, Detroit with the Bogdanovitch pick up,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's an interesting one to me, but that's still

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<v Speaker 1>a very young team. Young cores don't generally win. Orlando

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna do anything like that. They should be there

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<v Speaker 1>for the ten spot at worse. But again, like after

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<v Speaker 1>what happened last year, there is some even for a

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<v Speaker 1>non Nick supporter, like there's some PTSD of trying to

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<v Speaker 1>believe in that team. But I have to believe that

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Thibodeau is going to get them at least back

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<v Speaker 1>to the defensive part that they should be at, Like

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<v Speaker 1>that should be something that's a give in for them

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<v Speaker 1>and and if they're healthy, like that shouldn't be h

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<v Speaker 1>an issue. Like how they scored the end of games,

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<v Speaker 1>I can see that being an issue, but that should

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<v Speaker 1>still be a good defensive team. Look at Jerry satisfied

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<v Speaker 1>little smile. I am satisfied as I as I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that he just text you Nick's articles of like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about this on the hasn't even started yet, Zack,

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<v Speaker 1>this is our first real NBA conversation. We started this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast seven weeks ago. It's been all NFL. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>when I knew you were coming on. You are one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite people to talk hoops with. We've been

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<v Speaker 1>talking hoops for years and reading all your stuff. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>last thing. It starts for you Tuesday. You're entering your

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<v Speaker 1>busy season. Not that you weren't busy coming up, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're in season. What gave you more excited for Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>October eighteen six? Their Celtics, which is a great one,

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<v Speaker 1>Lakers Warriors, just from like a storyline where it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're starting the holiday season. What are you more excited

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<v Speaker 1>to watch on that opening Tuesday night. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>see the good games Lake his Warriors, That's what I

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<v Speaker 1>want to say. I mean the Draymond stuff alone. Is

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<v Speaker 1>he gonna be allowed to be a ring night or

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<v Speaker 1>is he gonna be suspended? Like he's like, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take some time away from the team, Like take some

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<v Speaker 1>time away, buddy, this season starting, Like I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what that means. I don't know if that means he's

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<v Speaker 1>suspended yet, or they're gonna like still try to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out where the suspension should be. If they're dangling this

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<v Speaker 1>like who leaked the video thing as a distraction, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that's gonna be. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if they let him come for ring night and they

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<v Speaker 1>just wheel him out there like Hannibal Lecter and then

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<v Speaker 1>wheel him back into the into the tunnel, like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't know how you handle that. I

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<v Speaker 1>could see, you know, remember do you remember when we

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<v Speaker 1>had like the gun story with the Wizard's locker room

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<v Speaker 1>and Gilbert Arenas and then when he finally got back

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<v Speaker 1>out on the court, they like do the pregame huddle

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<v Speaker 1>and everything, and he like does finger guns? Like does

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<v Speaker 1>if Draymond gets his ring on the eighteenth, does he

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<v Speaker 1>go out there and like fake square up with Joe

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<v Speaker 1>lake Ub and like do like a fun little thing,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know what. I don't like. It's Draymond.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything could happen. And then you get to the game itself.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Lebron and a d It's Pat Beverley trying to

1:08:57.760 --> 1:09:01.400
<v Speaker 1>annoy Steph Curry. Clay Thompson's back to full health like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the young guys were like co In good

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<v Speaker 1>Moody and Wiseman's Wiggins k pop Star. Now like there's

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<v Speaker 1>just so many storylines for that game and and so

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<v Speaker 1>like and that's the one. And also like you know, selfishly,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a West Coast guy. I love watching East Coasters

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<v Speaker 1>complaining about the times of everything with the ring ceremony everything,

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<v Speaker 1>The ring ceremony is gonna push that game way back.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna be asleep by halfway through the second quarter

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm just gonna be eating popcorn and loving the game.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I'm I'm excited about that Lakers Warriors matchup. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick Beverley is definitely gonna go at the Jordan Pool

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<v Speaker 1>and you have not the He's going to try to

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<v Speaker 1>legitimately bully Jordan Pool that night. Like there, there's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a whole whole thing there. Oh I can not

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<v Speaker 1>wait coming to Zack. Thank you so much. I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>happy we had a basketball conversation. Please come back on

1:09:49.400 --> 1:09:51.680
<v Speaker 1>as we actually have some real data to discuss and

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<v Speaker 1>real wins and losses and uh yeah, get ready, your

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<v Speaker 1>busy season is upon you. Yeah, no one's gonna pay

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<v Speaker 1>attention until after football done, but the NBA. It's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>I will go next, all right. You can follow him

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter at Talk Hoops and read his NBA insight

1:10:10.320 --> 1:10:12.800
<v Speaker 1>on the athletic all season back. Thanks again, thanks guys

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<v Speaker 1>for sure yea a figure since we are kind of

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<v Speaker 1>knee deep now and NBA stuff, which is so fun

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<v Speaker 1>season starting soon. I know Mark Cuban has been involved

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<v Speaker 1>with Entourage, now you know I haven't gotten there yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Is he a guest on the show? I take it. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Cuban comes on show, he plays himself, he plays

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Cuban. Yes. Uh. And he's actually even said over

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<v Speaker 1>the years, I think that's helped what what's helped lead

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<v Speaker 1>him to Shark tank and kind of being And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's said. I hope I'm not miss quoting him,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, Mark Cuban has been on a bunch of times.

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<v Speaker 1>I've acted with Mark Cubans several times, allage elsewhere, all

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<v Speaker 1>all on Entourage, and one thing stands out with him

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<v Speaker 1>that I always remember was like the coolest thing and

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<v Speaker 1>I really wish I could have followed him. So it

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<v Speaker 1>might have been his first day, maybe second day, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing this scene. I don't want to spoil too

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<v Speaker 1>much for you. I won't talk really what the scenes about.

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<v Speaker 1>It's him me. I think Kevin Dillon might have been

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<v Speaker 1>in it, and Bob Odenkirk actually who plays Saul on

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<v Speaker 1>Better Call sauls plays Mark Cubans like financial advisor. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So the show's gone, and this is two thousand eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it was. Whenever Lebron signed with the Heat

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<v Speaker 1>was two thousand eleven, right, So yeah, so that day

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<v Speaker 1>at nine pm Pacific was when Free Agency officially opened up.

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<v Speaker 1>That day we were shooting, so and I just thought

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<v Speaker 1>that was really and obviously Lebron being the greatest prize

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<v Speaker 1>for any franchise. So we're doing scenes and in between

1:11:59.439 --> 1:12:01.360
<v Speaker 1>takes Cube and like looking at his phone or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we're telling he's like and he's the one

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<v Speaker 1>who tells me like, yeah, guys, just so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at nine o'clock Pacific time, I'm I have to I'm

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<v Speaker 1>walking out that door because I have phone calls to make.

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously we're totally cool with that. So just because

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<v Speaker 1>of the trickle effect, like he didn't think he was

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<v Speaker 1>getting Lebron, he just didn't know how the dominoes were

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<v Speaker 1>going to fall up after I think at that point

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was like early on, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>all the rumors were it was obviously the Nicks thought

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<v Speaker 1>they had shot. He's not staying with the Cavs, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the Cavs. The MAVs were certainly in the at

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<v Speaker 1>least the public conversation. Who knows what was the real

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<v Speaker 1>deal behind the scenes. So we finish our stuff. Now

1:12:43.479 --> 1:12:45.760
<v Speaker 1>what you do when you're shooting, right you Obviously it's

1:12:45.760 --> 1:12:48.400
<v Speaker 1>called sides, Like I'm on one side, Cubans on the other.

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<v Speaker 1>So they shoot all of marks stuff first on his side,

1:12:52.000 --> 1:12:53.960
<v Speaker 1>so all his stuff is in the can. We have it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I still have to get all my stuff. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's approaching nine o'clock. So he's done. He's app I

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<v Speaker 1>am now going to do my scene with like a

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<v Speaker 1>green tennis ball on the other side. Yes, but listen,

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<v Speaker 1>Normally that's like an acting no no, Like you show

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<v Speaker 1>up for your off camera work. As an actor, you

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<v Speaker 1>give it up even more from your off camera because

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<v Speaker 1>you want to help get the good performance. In this case,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm such a basketball head, I didn't get whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you could put anything in front of me. I'll get

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<v Speaker 1>the scene done. So as he's leaving and he's like

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<v Speaker 1>getting into his car and he's like, so, I'm like, Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>who's your first call? And he's smiles like maybe maybe Lebron.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, we'll call Lebron. But I also think

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<v Speaker 1>Dirk was doing a deal too, so he's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta call him, calling Dirk first, finishing up dirt,

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<v Speaker 1>and like he's getting in his car on a cell phone,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just thought to myself, Man, that's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>so cool. Clock strikes nine midnight, East Coast. He's in

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<v Speaker 1>a car and he's like, who he's called Dirk, He's

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<v Speaker 1>called Lebron's people. He's just gonna roll calls. And I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be in that car as his like assistant

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<v Speaker 1>or something, just watching that all unfold. So one of

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<v Speaker 1>the few times you're allowed to break that acting rule

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<v Speaker 1>of not doing your off camera. I've seen other people

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<v Speaker 1>break it, not for nearly as good as rules as

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Cuban. Man, I never knew that was a thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess naivete I would think everyone's just standing there.

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<v Speaker 1>I would think there'd be two cameras facing like each

1:14:20.080 --> 1:14:21.840
<v Speaker 1>other like that but I just would have thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was done in one fell swoop. But you really do

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<v Speaker 1>like one half all the lines, the other half all

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<v Speaker 1>the lines. Yeah. I love behind the scenes stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>this because in TV, like in sports, like even on

1:14:33.160 --> 1:14:36.040
<v Speaker 1>sports broadcast, we have some hidden tricks as well. But

1:14:36.760 --> 1:14:40.600
<v Speaker 1>you know this isn't about that. This is about entourage.

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<v Speaker 1>When we're done with Entorage and we're gonna do our

1:14:43.960 --> 1:14:46.559
<v Speaker 1>sideline reporting stuff because I have question that's something I'm

1:14:46.600 --> 1:14:49.920
<v Speaker 1>super fascinated by and I would love to pick your

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<v Speaker 1>brain about. And I think the audience you want to

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<v Speaker 1>know too. Okay, you do that. So obviously our go

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<v Speaker 1>to bet MGM betting expert Peter Andrew. We talked last week.

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<v Speaker 1>He was getting married this past weekend, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we just want to let him live a little. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's not bother him. So we're giving him the week off.

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<v Speaker 1>But Jerry, you've got some bets you've put together and

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<v Speaker 1>I think even built a little parlay right. Yeah, you know, Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I do not claim to be any kind of Peter Andrew.

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<v Speaker 1>We love him, we miss him, but he's he's in

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<v Speaker 1>a better place. He's a married guy now. Who knows

1:15:29.760 --> 1:15:32.240
<v Speaker 1>where he is he's in a better place. But I

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<v Speaker 1>do have some games. I'm not gonna bore you with

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<v Speaker 1>my three team ten point teasers that I've been hitting

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<v Speaker 1>every single week. I'm five and oh in three team

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<v Speaker 1>ten point teasers, but those are risky. Those are very

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<v Speaker 1>risky and not always the smartest thing. I'm gonna stick

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<v Speaker 1>with Peter's format, and Olivia, please critique or jump in

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<v Speaker 1>if you have an argument or a better option. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry to do this to your Packers. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>like the Packers to win, but I'm putting three units

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<v Speaker 1>on the New York that's plus seven. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's like a four point or less game.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a final possession game. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers cruise. I think the Jets come back around and

1:16:10.280 --> 1:16:12.599
<v Speaker 1>make it close. I just don't know if you could

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<v Speaker 1>blow the Jets out at this point. They're too frisky.

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<v Speaker 1>So I like three units on that. And second bet,

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<v Speaker 1>here's a team that I've been all on for the

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<v Speaker 1>first five weeks and they've completely screwed me every single time.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is a bit reactionary, but also I love

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm seeing for the Patriots. The Patriots plus three

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<v Speaker 1>in Cleveland. Now, I know that's you know, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>home field three points that we're talking about there. I

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<v Speaker 1>really like what I see from the Patriots defense, their

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<v Speaker 1>run game. I don't think it really matters what quarterback DApp.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is a Bill Belichick special. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Belichick likes coaching a Patriots team like this more

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<v Speaker 1>than oh seven when they're putting up seventy points a

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<v Speaker 1>game with Tom Brady and Randy Moss. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>loves this and also talk about revenge game, which we

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe. In the Cleveland Browns fired Bill Belichick. We

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<v Speaker 1>remember this, so if anyone has an extra grind, I

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<v Speaker 1>think Bill Belichick is gonna step on the gas here.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you could get them plus there, what's the

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<v Speaker 1>worst thing that happens. I think maybe the Browns win

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<v Speaker 1>by a field goal, which they have not proven they

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<v Speaker 1>could do. So three units on the on the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 1>I really truly do love that. And Okay, I do

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<v Speaker 1>not normally like going with the Big Bills Chiefs matchup.

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<v Speaker 1>We all know that's gonna be a heavyweight showdown rematch

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<v Speaker 1>from the a f C championship game, and what a

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<v Speaker 1>game it was Chiefs are plus three at home. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if we're taking in the three points for the home field,

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<v Speaker 1>we're saying that the Bills are six points better than

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<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs. I think anytime you can get the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 1>as an underdog at home. I think there were three units,

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<v Speaker 1>and again I think that's a safe number because I

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<v Speaker 1>do think this could be another field goal game. So

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<v Speaker 1>I like the Chiefs plus three for my three units.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's nine. And now I don't have the Peter

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<v Speaker 1>Andrews single game parlay because I don't really you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the Thursday Night lines are just kind coming

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<v Speaker 1>to us. Also, good luck figuring out a single game

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<v Speaker 1>parlay with the Commanders and the Bears. But I have

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<v Speaker 1>a part lay, and I don't know how you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>like it. I like the Commanders plus one. I know

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<v Speaker 1>that's crazy to think. And I also like the over

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight, something that I don't think anyone's gonna be on.

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<v Speaker 1>I think for a one unit parlay, Commanders plus one

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<v Speaker 1>over thirty eight points, I think these teams are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>score some points. I think the Commanders have fourteen garbage

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<v Speaker 1>points in them easily, and I think the Bears figured

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<v Speaker 1>out some things with you. The Bears were in that game,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears. That dude got the ball ripped out of

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<v Speaker 1>his hand. Well, the Bears were driving down field to

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead or tie that game. So I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Bears figured some stuff out, and I think it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be awful game to watch. I go Commanders plus one

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<v Speaker 1>over thirty eight. I think it'll be an awful game.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're right. These are two of the NFL's

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<v Speaker 1>lowest scoring teams. I mean, you said that's a low number.

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<v Speaker 1>Over on the right now is thirty eight? I know that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on the over. No. I feel like this will

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<v Speaker 1>be like at two seven game like this is you

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<v Speaker 1>don't think Ron Rivera calling out Carson Wentz saying, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the problem with your team? Guys winning very I do

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<v Speaker 1>love one thing the NFL has been awesome about this year.

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<v Speaker 1>The quarterback play, with the exception of seven guys, has

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<v Speaker 1>been pretty atrocious. You've got Brady calling out the bad football.

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<v Speaker 1>Ron Rivera is called guys getting called out all over

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<v Speaker 1>the place. I love it. The backup too, Like we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about Geno earlier. I mean he wasn't the backup,

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<v Speaker 1>but we talked about guys who we didn't think we'd

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<v Speaker 1>be talked about in October, Cooper Rush and Ken you

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<v Speaker 1>Pickett we didn't think would be starting Missing Olivia. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a hard time naming the best fifteen. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>best fifteen quarterbacks in the NFL. I think you run

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<v Speaker 1>out of gas at like eight, right when you get

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<v Speaker 1>to the eighth quarterback, which is probably maybe borrow at

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<v Speaker 1>what you start going like, I guess it is it,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Ryan, No, it's not, it's not down. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you know I'm with you on all of them, except

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<v Speaker 1>in this gonna sound Homer and there's no cheese on

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<v Speaker 1>the head involved here, but Jets I I think this

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<v Speaker 1>could be a bigger game. I think the reason I

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<v Speaker 1>say that is I feel like Aaron's really good following

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<v Speaker 1>a loss and coming back home. I feel like they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to really stick it to him. And what he

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<v Speaker 1>says seven points, So I know you're want the bet,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to go extra do I dare I guess

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<v Speaker 1>another New York team death wish? Oh all right, hey, Peter,

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<v Speaker 1>better be careful. You did a pretty good job feeling

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<v Speaker 1>in a slot. Yeah. If I run the table right here,

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<v Speaker 1>Peter Andrew, you might be out of a podcast job.

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<v Speaker 1>The best wish is all the best to your guys. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>as I run to the shower to wash the smell

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<v Speaker 1>of cheese out of my hair, Jerry, congratulations, this was

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<v Speaker 1>basically your best show yet with all the nixt talk

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<v Speaker 1>and winning the bet. I bet you're feeling on top

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<v Speaker 1>of the world. I feel the top of the world

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<v Speaker 1>because we just talked some hoops. We got football coming

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<v Speaker 1>up this weekend, and we get to talk to Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>Garnett next week. Kevin Garnett KG, the big ticket, the

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<v Speaker 1>big ticket. You know who gave him that nickname, my dad.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to that next week. More on that next

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<v Speaker 1>week for sure. See all then,