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Speaker 1: What up y'all. As you guys probably know, Stack and

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Speaker 1: I are on summer break right now, taking a little

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Speaker 1: Smoke soon. But to on our brother Kobe and his

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Speaker 1: birthday coming up, we put together a special mashup our

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Speaker 1: long video of Kobe stories from our prior guests, from

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Speaker 1: Klay Thompson to Shack to Jeanie Buss, Carmelo Anthony. The

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Speaker 1: list goes on the effect that Kobe had on their lives,

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Speaker 1: on our lives, on your lives. So we hope you

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Speaker 1: guys enjoyed the video. Happy birthday to our brother and

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Speaker 1: we'll see you guys in a few weeks.

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Speaker 2: Happy birthday, Kobe Bean Brian. Hey, we miss you, Bro

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Speaker 2: from morning until we join you. Say me and Matt

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Speaker 2: Ben spend a little time with our family, take a break.

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Speaker 2: We'll be right back at youall with most great content.

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Speaker 2: All the Smoke, Showtime Basketball Today. Tribute to my brother

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Speaker 2: Kobe Bean Brian All I guess loved him, had great stories,

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Speaker 2: wanted to give him his flowers. So we're gonna get

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Speaker 2: it to y'all today. Our long video of just giving

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Speaker 2: our brother his love. Happy Birthday being Brian Showtime Basketball.

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Speaker 3: I remember Cole's first day on our AAU team. So

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Speaker 3: I played AAU and Patterson with Tim Thomas and kill

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Speaker 4: We were playing I remember playing it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we were playing against Elton Brand and those and

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Speaker 3: and then big Bean Pops came up like, hey, hey,

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Speaker 4: It's my young fella. He deserves to be out there.

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Speaker 4: He's just as good as whatever.

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Speaker 3: So I remember Cole's first game playing the point, coming down,

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Speaker 5: We're like, bro, what's up?

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Speaker 3: Step in a little bit, you know, right, come down

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Speaker 3: to the sept poom boom one two at half court

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Speaker 3: next time. All net like his confidence. He's like, bro,

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Speaker 3: I can hit that. That's just nothing. That's my you know.

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Speaker 3: It was just that mentality at that age earlier, on

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Speaker 3: let me fit in Tim Thomas' Tim Thomas's number one

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Speaker 4: I'm top five. He like, bro, I'm below.

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Speaker 5: Hey, rip.

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Speaker 6: I used to tell people about the McDonald's game. Like

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Speaker 6: was gonna be great.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 6: Like I tell a story, like everybody has pictures were

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Speaker 6: like group pictures together, but everybody was taking one on

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Speaker 6: one pictures with Kobe game.

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Speaker 4: Because we all knew.

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Speaker 6: Everybody knew, bro, don't I got pictures with everybody, but

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Speaker 7: Picture with in high school.

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Speaker 8: We knew then that this dude was different, Bro, Yo,

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Speaker 8: he was. He was for real, man stank he was.

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Speaker 8: I mean, like we used to because we were roommates too,

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Speaker 4: All the au events we were roommates and stuff like that.

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Speaker 8: And I remember when he was talking about on your show,

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Speaker 8: because you know, we were in roommates and it was

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Speaker 8: many times at night that this dude just didn't want

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Speaker 8: to go to sleep, you just wanted to talk basketball, right.

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Speaker 8: And we were about to play Tim Thomas and a

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Speaker 8: Cole was just in a room all night, like one

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Speaker 8: you know tomorrow I'm gonna kill this dude.

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Speaker 7: And I'm like, I'm like.

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Speaker 8: Tim Thomas, Like, first of all, we don't even play

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Speaker 4: He was like, Man, I'm gonna kill this dude.

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Speaker 8: He was like after after tomorrow, it ain't gonna be

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Speaker 8: Watch watch after the Morrow night, I'm like, bro, go

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Speaker 1: We played them early in the morning.

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Speaker 7: He was definitely one of a kind.

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Speaker 1: How did he do in the game?

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Speaker 8: Was after the game, Bro, Matt, After that game, you

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Speaker 8: can pull up every tabloid or every little Skelt report,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I remember that.

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Speaker 8: And we won, and we won.

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Speaker 1: You guys came in pretty much the same time in

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Speaker 1: It took Cod a couple of years to get on

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Speaker 1: both Adidas guys, both young and out of place and

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Speaker 11: So because we were, you know, both Adidas guys and

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Speaker 11: there was an opportunity for me to go out there

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Speaker 11: you know, fried chicken for us and macarodi and cheese.

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Speaker 11: I was eating good at that boy house. Man he

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Speaker 11: had he had chores and everything.

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Speaker 5: But yeah and up pale.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, he was out there, absolutely, But to be around

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Speaker 11: Cod had been here before and been around you know

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Speaker 11: the greats of the game. Because his mindset was so

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Speaker 11: thought he was better than Michael Jordan, was gonna be.

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Speaker 5: Better than Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 4: Thank you tea man.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 11: And at the time, I'm looking at my dog, I'm like, Bro,

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Speaker 11: you crazy as hell. Bro for anybody's even think that

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Speaker 11: as a team, And I'm like, Bro, something, I don't

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Speaker 11: want you fair like you crazy. So we used to

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Speaker 11: watch his home his Homegrowl movies, Come Fly with Me, Playground.

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Speaker 11: I used to watch that religiously. Bro, Paul's it and

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Speaker 11: might do something Paul rewind mimic it. I was like dog,

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Speaker 11: he was obsessed with this shit karate flicks.

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Speaker 4: I mean, man, he was different.

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Speaker 11: Going to school, I was like, Bro and his work, ethic,

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Speaker 11: handled himself. Man, Partying wasn't his thing. He wasn't to

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Speaker 11: hang out. Now, Oh you want you going to the club, Shit,

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Speaker 11: I'm gonna go to the gym. Put up these shots

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Speaker 11: like That's what he was about. He was just he

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Speaker 11: was different. I learned from him, and you know, he

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Speaker 11: struggled his first year. It was Spad the Lakers. The

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Speaker 11: players used to mess with Coche so bad his first year. Man,

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Speaker 11: he hated it, bro And because he took those steps,

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Speaker 11: he went through that fire. I came after. I was

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Speaker 11: I made a mistake of coming out of high school.

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Speaker 11: So I leaned on him all the time, man, and

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Speaker 11: our relationship started to do like this because he was

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Speaker 4: And I was over here trying to win scoring titles.

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Speaker 12: I knew that he had it. I remember him at

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Speaker 12: eighteen years old telling me he's gonna be the Will

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Speaker 12: Smith of the NBA. Like slow down, young fella. But

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Speaker 12: he had a dream. He had a vision, you got, Jiggie.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he did.

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Speaker 12: He had a dream. He had a vision, and look

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Speaker 12: he went for him.

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Speaker 1: Being forty nine year old. Check looking back on those

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Speaker 1: Laker days, he said, you won three out of four.

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Speaker 1: He said, you probably cause for some of the ego

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Speaker 1: if you had the wisdom you have now back then,

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Speaker 1: how many championships you feel like you guys could have

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Speaker 1: watched seventh.

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Speaker 12: Because the reason why I got traded it wasn't about

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Speaker 12: me and Kobe Beef is what they wanted me to

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Speaker 12: take less money not doing that.

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Speaker 2: Cole said at least ten. We asked him, he said

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Speaker 2: that's true, but I got money. I had money.

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Speaker 12: I just should have been like, all right, I raise

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Speaker 12: you enough, it's your team now, I know what I'm

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Speaker 12: gonna do. I'm still gonna do my twenty eight ten

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Speaker 12: all right. But I was like, nah, I want, I want,

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Speaker 12: I don't care what you like. If I had all

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Speaker 12: over do again, I probably would have had a meeting

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Speaker 12: with the family.

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Speaker 5: What's y'all want to do?

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Speaker 12: Want me take less money, take a less role, stay here,

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Speaker 12: or you were still wanting to be shocked? He's that

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Speaker 12: ego and the egos still got me what I want.

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Speaker 12: I still went to Miami and Pat carried me. I

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Speaker 12: still won one, but I would have liked to have

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Speaker 12: stayed there the rest of my career.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Kobe, you got a chance to play with him,

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Speaker 1: at the beginning of his career, at the end of

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Speaker 1: your career. And we had we had talked about this

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Speaker 1: when we had sat down at the crib. Tell tell

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Speaker 1: us some of the stuff that went on, because you

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Speaker 1: caught a young Kobe and you guys are in the

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Speaker 1: same position, right.

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Speaker 13: So my third year was his first A Jones was

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Speaker 13: starting off, you know.

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Speaker 4: At the time. Yeah, he was an All Star.

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Speaker 13: He was an All Star or whatever, fake all Star,

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Speaker 13: but he was an All Star, right, and then Kobe, Kobe, Kobe.

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Speaker 7: I just I remember Kobe, a young lion.

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Speaker 4: You were just like, you know how young lions hunt,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, And like, man.

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Speaker 13: I can get out there and get me a kill,

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Speaker 13: you know what I mean, Just put me in a game, coach.

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Speaker 4: He was over there home.

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Speaker 13: Oh, he was over there hungry. I just seen it

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Speaker 13: in his eyes. Right, So when he got a gang, right,

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Speaker 13: and I used to kill Addie Jones. I used to

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Speaker 13: really really serve that guy. So Kobe Coby real talk,

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Speaker 13: you know, I mean the silver food one time two

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Speaker 13: in any Wood.

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Speaker 5: I didn't want to, wouldn't.

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Speaker 7: It wasn't even no smoke. I can just said, what's up.

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Speaker 7: But that's the whole other stuff.

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Speaker 13: Right, But so Cobe on the bench way, you know

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Speaker 7: When he got the game, he was real.

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Speaker 4: He was real.

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Speaker 4: He was kind of wild.

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Speaker 13: But I remember calling my brothers at home, like, man,

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Speaker 13: Twenty five big boy, you know what I mean, twenty

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Speaker 7: You know Jean benjer On all that was he doing.

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Speaker 13: But I was I was a grown man, so on

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Speaker 4: I wasn't going for that.

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Speaker 13: But I've seen the greatness any young right then what

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Speaker 13: I call home, I'm like, man, this young boys gonna

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Speaker 4: Fast forward to h three years light on me.

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Speaker 13: Watch him go to work and I'm doing my thing,

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Speaker 13: So his I guess four for you because when he

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Speaker 13: Eddie was gonna he got in the game and he

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Speaker 15: But y'all don't know, is that Kobe Bryant rest in

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Speaker 15: peace to my dog. He took another level of being

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Speaker 15: a defensive standpoint because Gary Payton after practice after practice,

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Speaker 15: said let me tell y'all something. Look when you're playing defense,

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Speaker 5: Tricks of the trade.

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Speaker 15: That next time I saw cold after the break he

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Speaker 15: I seen him, said he used that shit. GPHO saw it.

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Speaker 5: He saw it.

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Speaker 4: I got his ass, he saw it, Yo, Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: saw it.

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Speaker 5: This yash nigga, I saw that shit.

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Speaker 4: I said, I caught that shit.

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Speaker 15: Didn't think I saw that, but I knew that only

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Speaker 15: the three of us was part of that.

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Speaker 7: So I was like, you you got to you saw shit.

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Speaker 5: I thought it was gonna callifight. He ain't caught that shit.

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Speaker 15: Wow, Because GP taught us when you rip somebody to

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Speaker 15: this right, He told us to take a step and

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Speaker 5: There's no way you can protect the ball.

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Speaker 15: You can't cross it back once you get in there,

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Speaker 15: once I'm in your cab, you can't cross it up.

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Speaker 15: You would either have to turn your back. Oh man,

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Speaker 15: I saw cold take that first night after the break.

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Speaker 15: I saw it. You know, we want no texting, none

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Speaker 15: of that back then. But when I first saw him,

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Speaker 15: I shot there and stayed it right here. When I

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Speaker 15: Shout out to GP for that.

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Speaker 8: Well, you know, Matt, I had the pleasure of mentoring

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Speaker 16: Uh.

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Speaker 8: It was really an enjoyful time for me to mentor him.

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Speaker 8: I became a big brother to him. Kobe was just

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Speaker 8: a little different. He didn't have no he didn't have

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Speaker 8: And when he came to approach me at the All

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Speaker 8: get make first team All Defense, and I sat there

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Speaker 8: at the.

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Speaker 4: Center court and taught him.

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Speaker 8: A lot of things, and he made the first team

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Speaker 8: All Defense with me that year. I said, this young

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Speaker 8: And he kept asking me stuff every time he played me,

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Speaker 8: and I posted him up and I got it. He

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Speaker 8: my ear. Oh g man, why you keep killing me

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Speaker 8: on these post ups? Man?

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Speaker 7: You got to teach me that what should I do?

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Speaker 8: And that was just a big thing for me to

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Speaker 8: gonna be leaving the game soon, and I want to

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Speaker 8: see somebody in that game that imitates the things that

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Speaker 8: I do.

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Speaker 14: And can be dominated at it.

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Speaker 8: And this kid was one of them guys, and I

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Speaker 8: taught him everything that I needed to tell you. We

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Speaker 8: used to stay after practice in LA and he used

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Speaker 8: Then he used to fade away. He took it all.

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Speaker 8: He'll face you up and go at you. And it

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Speaker 8: forth and he used to catch with one hand, catch

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Speaker 8: with one hand and slide I learned, and he got

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Speaker 8: so good at it where he used to guard all

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Speaker 8: the top guys. And that's what I started telling him.

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Speaker 8: Stopped straying away from all the top guys. And they

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Speaker 8: if the top guy on the team is here, you

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Speaker 4: And kill him on the other end. And that's what

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Speaker 4: he started doing.

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Speaker 2: What memories were you take from the two thousand finals

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Speaker 2: experience against the Lakers.

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Speaker 5: Shock of Monster.

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Speaker 2: I mean you't have to go to the finals and

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Speaker 2: know that though, I mean, man, but it was different then.

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Speaker 17: It was different then because in Orlando it was like

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Speaker 17: his career, people got to see like the powerful, like

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Speaker 17: right in front of the rim shock, but like two thousand,

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Speaker 17: like he.

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Speaker 7: Was playing d on pick and rolls still.

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Speaker 17: Like blocking shots, like he was blocking shots. He started

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Speaker 17: getting exactly and he was like will to gives us?

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Speaker 17: He was like forty twenty and he's making his free throws.

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Speaker 17: But another great thing, man, is Kobe's coming off party.

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Speaker 17: We hit us with to get down and laid down.

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Speaker 17: That was dope because he was arguing with their bench.

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Speaker 17: Like I used to hear Phil yelling at Kobe, pass the.

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Speaker 7: Ball, move the ball, get off of it. We're like, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 7: get off of it.

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Speaker 17: I don't know what game he watched it right, and

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Speaker 17: Shaq fouled out.

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Speaker 1: Hey, man, Cole.

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Speaker 5: I love Cole so much.

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Speaker 1: He went to work on us.

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Speaker 17: And then he hit that jumper at the top of

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Speaker 17: the kid and he did this that wasn't even to us,

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Speaker 17: That was to his team because they didn't even believe it.

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Speaker 17: He was looking at looking at oh No. When Cole

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Speaker 17: first got drafted to the probably shouldn't say I'm just

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Speaker 17: trying not to say too much of what I know,

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Speaker 17: but like Cole was presented by his own teammate, his

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Speaker 17: own teammates, Yeah, I couldn't believe it.

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Speaker 14: They was hating on him.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, why y'all.

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Speaker 14: Gonna hate on him because he was that confident? But

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Speaker 17: He ain't even like go out, he ain't dream.

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Speaker 1: He was over at UCLA with us, we was in college.

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Speaker 1: He was a Laker on on campus, chilling.

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Speaker 17: I worked out with him that one summer, and you know,

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Speaker 17: Rob ended up being his agent. I was with them

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Speaker 17: and Covid and I, you know, young for that, We're

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Speaker 17: gonna go after the work. I'm gonna go get a massage,

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Speaker 17: you know what I'm saying. Went to the little spot,

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Speaker 17: little burk Spy in Santa Monica or whatever. I went

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Speaker 17: and got it in. I'm in LA, got my little

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Speaker 17: doing it.

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Speaker 5: He was going back.

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Speaker 17: To the gym, and so like for him to me

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Speaker 17: to watch him from like ninety six when he got

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Speaker 17: like being in that moment where Shaq was ended up

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Speaker 17: and he ended up being the last two. And that's

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Speaker 17: why I started calling him like the remix of MJ.

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Speaker 17: Because to me, he looked like MJ. You sound like MJ.

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Speaker 17: Move like MJ.

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Speaker 7: You the next best thing.

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Speaker 18: Shock fouled out, so like everybody kind of paniccked. So

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Speaker 18: they thought, like, Okay, shock foult out. We got to

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Speaker 18: move the ball, we gotta get everybody involved, we gotta

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Speaker 18: play a different style of basketball. And so I think

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Speaker 18: Covid missed like three shots in a row. He like

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Speaker 18: took a couple of bad shots whatever, and he missed

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Speaker 18: three shots in a row. So guys like, man, you

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Speaker 18: got to move the ball. And Field was on him

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Speaker 18: a little bit in the time out, and he came out.

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Speaker 18: I think he might have scored like twelve straight or something,

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Speaker 18: and then he hit that big shot and he was

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Speaker 18: like relaxed.

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Speaker 4: Like I got this. And after that, after that.

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Speaker 7: Series, then that's when he it was over.

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Speaker 14: It was over relaxed, I got it.

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Speaker 18: So you know, the reporter asked Kobe, He's like, you know,

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Speaker 18: your teammates say you don't trust him, you don't, he said,

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Speaker 18: how do you feel about that?

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Speaker 5: He said, well, I.

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Speaker 18: Feel like I got a better chance of making a

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Speaker 18: shot out of two people than the guy's wide open.

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Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 4: Serious?

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Speaker 5: You know? So you know I love him.

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Speaker 7: I love him.

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Speaker 1: Talk to us about your relationship with Cob and what

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Speaker 1: it was like going to war with him over all

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Speaker 1: these years.

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Speaker 19: I didn't have a personal relationship with him.

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Speaker 20: But you know how killers respect killers.

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Speaker 19: You know what I mean? And that's and that's what

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Speaker 19: it was. He knew who I was, I know who

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Speaker 19: he is. He gave me that push. I gave it

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Speaker 19: to him. I love the stories that people give me

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Speaker 19: that were teammates, that were friends.

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Speaker 20: I love the stories.

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Speaker 19: I wouldn't say it bothered me, but I wish I

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Speaker 19: could have had a better relationship with him. As far

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Speaker 19: as how great other people said he was, I want

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Speaker 19: that energy around me. He was just Yeah, he was

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Speaker 19: the ultimate. He was the ultimate competitive The man like.

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Speaker 2: You lucky out of that six sakes six six. That's

446
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 2: what he always That's what that man said, you lucky.

447
00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,960
Speaker 19: When I heard that, it made me feel so good

448
00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,200
Speaker 19: because the respect that.

449
00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,719
Speaker 20: That he gave me. It was like, you know, just

450
00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:18,280
Speaker 20: like Max.

451
00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 19: You know, I watched First Take, and you know, I

452
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,639
Speaker 19: listened to Steven Max go at it. A lot of

453
00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,359
Speaker 19: people don't rock with Max, but I love Max because Max,

454
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,640
Speaker 19: I like Max, always take up for.

455
00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 2: Me, don't I don't like the other guy, your homeboy.

456
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 19: Okay, yeah, let's get back on track.

457
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,160
Speaker 20: I would go all the way off, all right.

458
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:49,240
Speaker 19: But he said something like, if Kobe and somebody had

459
00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,479
Speaker 19: a baby, you know, it'll be me, you know whatever.

460
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 19: And you know, just for people to put me in

461
00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 19: the same sentence with Cole, just just make me feel

462
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:08,119
Speaker 19: good about my grind, my mom, my family, my teammates, y'all,

463
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 19: my homeboys.

464
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,440
Speaker 20: Just it's a it's a tribute to y'all. You know

465
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 20: what I mean.

466
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 19: For a motherfucker to put me in the same category

467
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,919
Speaker 19: as Kobe Bryant, Like, that's so dope to me.

468
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 2: Is this story true? Our m uh story that I

469
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 2: heard that you landed in LA and Kobe picked you

470
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,680
Speaker 2: up and he lack rain rope. Yeah, he picked you

471
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 2: up because he he wanted he just wanted to chop

472
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 2: it up with you. And after y'all go out to

473
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 2: eat or whatever you decide to go out. He tell

474
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 2: your ass, I'm dropping you off to the hotel.

475
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,120
Speaker 5: This is my stop. I'm gonna work out. I'm going

476
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,160
Speaker 5: to the gym. Is that true story?

477
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 19: We he took me out to eat and I said,

478
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 19: what you getting ready to do? I'm going to the club.

479
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 19: And he said, I'm going to the gym. And that

480
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 19: was him, That was that was th th That's that's

481
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 19: that's what made I mean that greatness. That's that where

482
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,920
Speaker 19: that greatness came from because his work atic six.

483
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 2: Second and h was just But I guarantee you it's

484
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 2: probably a handful of people on the other team that

485
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 2: he was playing and he did that that he can't

486
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 2: because you know, Kobe, he ain't talking to nobody through

487
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,880
Speaker 2: the game, damn sure, not about another team. So I'm

488
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 2: just saying that sort of respect he had you, He

489
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 2: ain't gonna pick up.

490
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 5: Nobody to break that down.

491
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 1: Hell nah, hell no, studying you the whole time, Yeah,

492
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 1: studying what he was what she was saying, no bullshit,

493
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,679
Speaker 1: That's how he was. He was a he was a

494
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 1: sick o when it came to that kind of ship,

495
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 1: like trying to find any kind of advantage or angle

496
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 1: he could possibly get. I'm sure you've seen it right away.

497
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 1: You got a chance play with him. I came and

498
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 1: play with you guys. What it was like just being

499
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 1: with him and seeing him.

500
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,400
Speaker 21: Now, yeah, I mean what it was. His whole ship

501
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 21: is different. I'll be hearing dude say his name like

502
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:54,239
Speaker 21: he ain't really he was trying to be perfect on

503
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 21: the court all the time, even doing his like his

504
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 21: little shooting routine or whatever. You know what I'm saying.

505
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 21: Even if his footwork, even if he's getting shot, he's

506
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 21: doing it in a certain way where he's just trying

507
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 21: to be trying to get better at it. You know,

508
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 21: his work effict in the morning, man, he was like

509
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 21: he was a thug at ten in the morning. He

510
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 21: was going he was just banging on breathlets man, yea

511
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 21: for real, like my man, constant, take it easy up

512
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 21: at it. There was no such thing though. It was

513
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 21: all full steam ahead. Phil Jackson comes in six. What's

514
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 21: that experience? Like, I'm sure you never had nobody like him.

515
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 5: You know, I mean that that changed.

516
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 21: I think just probably the way I looked at the game,

517
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 21: you know, really not from the from the physical aspect

518
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 21: from the mental aspect, the mental approach. I mean, you know,

519
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 21: we used to meditate together, and so if you know

520
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 21: anything about meditation, that just like prayer in a sense.

521
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 21: So really we like we all praying together unreligiously. That's deep,

522
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 21: you know what I mean. So that's gonna build the

523
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 21: extra bond. Gives us books to read according to your

524
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,959
Speaker 21: personality of who you are, how you want to affect

525
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 21: your life.

526
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 1: That's crazy to have read enough books to be able

527
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: to have something for you.

528
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 21: Understand people that much though, right question how driven was cold?

529
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,479
Speaker 5: And how did that? How did that rub off on you?

530
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 21: I learned from this dude just by even just room,

531
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 21: just watching them.

532
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 5: Man. You know, he said he was better than Mike.

533
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 5: I know he did. He thought it. He thought it.

534
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 5: You could tell though he felt that way.

535
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 22: I said, what, I'm walking through the airport and they

536
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 22: like Shaquille O'Neil come in to the Miami Heat. I

537
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 22: was like, damn, we about to be like dope leaving

538
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 22: the Miami Heat and my name they had a lebar Dave.

539
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 23: I was like, oh shit, like that's how this worked.

540
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 23: Like I thought I was here forever. I just bought

541
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 23: a crib like I can't sell a crib. I just

542
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 23: bought it, like it was just like all that emotional attachment,

543
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 23: but that was just that was just a crazy experienced

544
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 23: one just to be a part of that whole process.

545
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 23: And then going to Los Angeles and I'll never forget

546
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 23: Kobe signed a deal for one hundred and thirty plus

547
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 23: million dollars. I'm at the press conference and it's actually

548
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 23: a double press conference because they're introducing myself, Brian Grant

549
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 23: lamar Odom to the city of Los Angeles. And then

550
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 23: Kobe signed in this deal and I'll never forget, like

551
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 23: looking at that money. And then the first thing he

552
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 23: turned to the right said to me was get ready

553
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 23: to fucking black out, Like get ready to work.

554
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,160
Speaker 22: Out, Like let's take that shit to another level. And

555
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 22: I'm talking about the blackout sessions. Was crazy. The reason

556
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 22: why I was an All Star player, the reason why

557
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 22: I'm in the coaching space is because my time that

558
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 22: I spent with Kobe Bryant.

559
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 5: What was he like off the court? Basketball genius? All

560
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 5: he talked about was the game.

561
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 22: I started watching film with him on every plane trip,

562
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 22: just analyzing like the rotations, the schemes, the double teams,

563
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 22: where they was coming from, how to manipulate the defense.

564
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 22: I learned the whole bunch from a Bean and also too,

565
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 22: you know when you talk about life after basketball, he

566
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 22: gave me like a jewel that stuck with me.

567
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 5: The roar of the crowd is not for you.

568
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 22: It's for what you can do, and as soon as

569
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 22: you can do it, they be cheering for someone else.

570
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 22: So like, work on your second act. While you're in

571
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 22: the midst of your first.

572
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: In Western Conference finals against Cold, you guys are right

573
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: there on the doorstep, think about that mess up.

574
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 24: The greatest man I just that was. That was my

575
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 24: moment where me and Cole became Before that, we went

576
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 24: to the Olympics. Before that, we became very close, but

577
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 24: we became close on some like some disrespectful ship like Cold.

578
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 2: You know, you know Cold man, you're.

579
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 24: Going at your neck saying, she to your elbowing you.

580
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 24: I had my braids back then too, so he.

581
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 5: Touched my head.

582
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 14: I'm like, ya, don't.

583
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 24: Don't touch my head, like you know what I'm saying,

584
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 24: I don't touch me no more.

585
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 5: Dog.

586
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 24: And you know he's smirking, and you know he's doing

587
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 24: his little ship elbows and O nine came and it

588
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 24: was like, I mean, we hugged before the game.

589
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 5: He was like, war, it's war. I said, it's war.

590
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 24: Like, let's let's get it, like you ain't gonna be

591
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 24: nothing easy. And I just remember him. He always would

592
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 24: tell me, I guard you in the fourth because gonna

593
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 24: make no they ain't gonna call him hill me in

594
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 24: the fourth, and.

595
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 14: I just usually try to.

596
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 24: I used to try to beat him up though you

597
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 24: know I was bigger than him, so I used to

598
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 24: try to beat him up, be physical with him. He

599
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 24: come back elbow and me, I come back elbow on him.

600
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 24: He laughing talking about that's all you got, you know

601
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 24: what I'm saying. It was just pushing my button to see.

602
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 5: Well, I was gonna standing that, you know what I'm saying.

603
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 24: And that's how like we grew man and we all

604
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 24: we became who we.

605
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 7: Are twenty ten.

606
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 10: Man, I remember that shit more than the year that

607
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 10: we wanted, because it was like I started five healthy.

608
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 10: We never lost the we never lost a playoff series,

609
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 10: and I felt like going into La, we was up,

610
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 10: We was up three three two, Game six in LA,

611
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 10: felt like we had the right momentum going. Obviously they

612
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 10: get Andrew Bonum back, So now I'm playing Andrew Bonum

613
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 10: ticket planing Mark, I mean.

614
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 7: Paul Kasol, Yeah, Powell Kassau.

615
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 10: So the motherfucker matchups is even we down there were

616
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 10: battling like a motherfucker we going at it. So now

617
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 10: I tell my motherfucking acl man, And it was the

618
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 10: worst thing of my life because I didn't think it

619
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 10: wasn't that I didn't feel like I wasn't gonna bounce back.

620
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 10: But you just never take going to the finals for

621
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 10: granted because people people don't understand it's hard to just

622
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 10: get to the finals, let alone win the championship.

623
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 7: And I'm like, man, I.

624
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 10: Might not reach this shit again ever in my life.

625
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 7: That's why it hurted me.

626
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 10: And then having to sit out Game seven and watch

627
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 10: us have a fourteen point lead in the fourth quarter

628
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 10: and the Lakers walk the shit down to win the

629
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,239
Speaker 10: championship and watch them celebrate on our home on their

630
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 10: home court, and us having to walk through the stadium

631
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,959
Speaker 10: hear and all that shit, the bus ride going to

632
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 10: the plane and shit decorated with La gilt. But I'm

633
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 10: gonna tell you something. Kobe was six for twenty four

634
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 10: of that game. But this is how bad he wanted.

635
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 10: Every team that won that won the game in that

636
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 10: series won the rebound in battle. Kobe had fifteen motherfucker

637
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 10: rebounds at the two guard position. So that goes to

638
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 10: that's another testimony to his greatness because people always think

639
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 10: everybody want to talk about the scoring.

640
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 7: But like he was off, but he said, you know.

641
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: What, he would do whatever he will do whatever it

642
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: takes to win.

643
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 7: He had he had.

644
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 10: Eight offensive rebounds that led to him going to the

645
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 10: free throw line like that. That's like, motherfucker wanted that shit, man.

646
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 10: And like today man says, we're thinking back on it

647
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 10: and when we lost our brother. I ain't even just

648
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 10: saying this because you know it's a front. This is

649
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 10: how I feel when people ask me about that twenty ten.

650
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 7: Now I'm at ease with it.

651
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 10: I'm like, you know what shit I see I Kobe

652
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 10: could have that motherfucker.

653
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 7: Man, I'm glad he took.

654
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: When you reflect on Kobe and his memory with what

655
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: stands out.

656
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 5: Man, his realness, his realness. Man, he was misunderstood. Man. People.

657
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 25: I asked him one time, Matt, like I asked him.

658
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 25: I said, man, why he's such an asshole. I asked

659
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 25: him that. He said, you really want to know you

660
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 25: know how he was and he said to me, he said, Phil, Man,

661
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 25: some of my teammates don't understand the work. He said, so,

662
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,719
Speaker 25: I see dudes walk into practice ten minutes before practice

663
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 25: and they leave right after. Why the fuck am I

664
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 25: going to pass them to basketball? I don't respect the

665
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 25: work ethic. I'm in here busting my ass every day

666
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 25: trying to perfect my craft, and these dudes, these dudes

667
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 25: don't want to work on the game. I don't trust them,

668
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 25: so I'm not gonna pass them the basketball. I'm gonna

669
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 25: ride him hard every day. Made perfect sense when he

670
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 25: really broke it down as to why he is the

671
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 25: way he is with certain dudes, I was just like, man,

672
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 25: I respect that, bro, I respect that, but his realness

673
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 25: in the sense of, you know, he told me. He

674
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 25: was like, look, man, you have a you have an

675
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 25: ability to connect with people. Don't do not concern yourself

676
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 25: with what people think about you. And he told me that, man,

677
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 25: and just and that sunk in. It sunk in. He said, look,

678
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 25: you have to move the way you move to make

679
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 25: sure you do your job, make sure you professional. Make

680
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 25: sure you study the game, but don't be concerned with

681
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 25: people think about you. And that stuck with me ever

682
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 25: since since I've been in this league. He was a

683
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 25: pro with that.

684
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: I laughed when you said the five forty five thing

685
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: because I automatically knew five forty five in the morning

686
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: because I used to have to go out to Orange

687
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: County and what time you want me to meet you

688
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: at the track? Five fifteen. I'm like, nigga's still dark

689
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: and you're talking about moment I got run. We got

690
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: to run, then we gotta hit the gym. We hit

691
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: the gym and lift so hard I felt like I

692
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: couldn't lift my arms up, and then we got to

693
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: go shoot for like two hours at like the work.

694
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 25: You've experienced it, Matt, I ran through you. You experienced

695
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 25: people don't. People don't really understand like what that was

696
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 25: about with him.

697
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he respected you. He fucked with you if they

698
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: like I said, he had had me come out there,

699
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: we go work out and we go have breakfast and everything.

700
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: And like I said, I know he didn't let too

701
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: many people do that.

702
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.

703
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: To be able to get that side of him was dope.

704
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: And it's funny because I asked him the same questions,

705
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: like why don't you ever show I didn't say be

706
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: an asshole, like wyonn't you show the world how dope

707
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: you are and how you are with us? He looked

708
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: at me and he said, I can't let the motherfucker

709
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: see that. I say that for Kobe.

710
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 26: I say, Kobe was one of still one of the

711
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 26: hardest guys I've ever had to car late.

712
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 5: In his career, no question, because question remember.

713
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 26: When I played him, he shot the ball about forty

714
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 26: damn times. But it was amazing just to see like

715
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 26: his craft at the same time, like he still had

716
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 26: he still had the footwork.

717
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 14: It's plum work.

718
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 6: Look look how many points she scored his last game.

719
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 6: I mean, that's that's that's the hell lot right there.

720
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 4: He had a ratchet.

721
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: I tell you alone, m That's that's why I tell

722
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: people they ask me who the hardest for me to

723
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: guard was him, because like you said, it was the

724
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: foot work, it was the skill work he had. And

725
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: then you knowing that when he takes that one or

726
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: two dribbles to the baseline, right, he's gonna shot fake you,

727
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: But you still fucking jump because he'll shot fake you

728
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: seven times because he's not gonna pass, you know what

729
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, if he gets in that move, he'll

730
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: shot fake you until you jump and fallom. And it

731
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: was just like, god, damn cold. That shit is crazy, bro,

732
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: you know it's crazy.

733
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 14: Have you y'all heard him? Y'all heard him? Heard him

734
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:37,760
Speaker 14: hiss before?

735
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 5: Huh?

736
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: Yes, when he needs the Yeah, that's that's when you

737
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: have to the ball. So crazy. Yeah.

738
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 14: So it's my first game playing against him.

739
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 5: He's on the wing.

740
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 14: I think I want to say Sasha had the ball

741
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 14: all of a sudden, All of a sudden, he says.

742
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 6: That's it, that's him, that's cold, And all of a

743
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 6: sudden the ball was in his hand.

744
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 14: I said, oh my god, that's all you gotta do

745
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 14: to get the ball.

746
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: Yo, It don't matter how loud the arena is.

747
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 4: Mama, noise, noise.

748
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you, it don't matter how loud

749
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: the arena is. You gonna hear that motherfucking hissing. The

750
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: ball better be in his hands than like the next

751
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: three to five seconds. And if you haven't, hey, if

752
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: you have the nerve to if you have the nerve

753
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: to shoot, and miss with after he hisses, go back

754
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: on film and just watch Code's face. If that motherfucker

755
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: hisses and you take a shot and miss, he might

756
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: look at you crazy if you make that bitch, But

757
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: if you miss that motherfucker if looks at Killboy, you

758
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: be struck dead on the court that he used to

759
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: crack me up man.

760
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 27: As far as cod go man, he was super cool.

761
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 27: I enjoyed competing with him and just just being around him.

762
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 27: You know what I'm saying. It's just a different energy

763
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 27: when you're around him and you want to flow with him.

764
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, I mean I got a chance to,

765
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: like you, play with Ai, play with Chris Paul. Super

766
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: competitive dudes, but to me, there's no one more competit.

767
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 27: Yeah see, I didn't. I wish you get that. We

768
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 27: didn't get We didn't. We didn't get that part of

769
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 27: the experience. Like every once in a while, yeah did

770
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 27: he would say some ship did. The whole room was

771
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 27: like like, we had a fun He's gonna be mad

772
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 27: at you for this, but look we had a blowout.

773
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 4: We got blue out uh.

774
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 27: At Portland and he came in the locker room and

775
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 27: he was like, from now on out. Every time down

776
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 27: the court, I touched the ball. Y'all gonna learn what

777
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 27: it's like to play with Kobe Bean fucking Bright, and

778
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 27: I'm looking like this mother serious. But so Nick Young

779
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 27: played for lass. We go, we showered ship, we come back.

780
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 27: Nick walk in the locker room to y'all better throw

781
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 27: that mother fuck the ball and it's.

782
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 7: Gonna be some ship around here.

783
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 27: So like, Nick never took anything serious though, but we

784
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 27: just got the ship kicked out of us, and Code

785
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 27: wasn't going for it, you know what I'm saying. And

786
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 27: so I just think mentally, like he meant that ship,

787
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 27: you know what I'm saying. I just think it at

788
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 27: point's body just didn't give him what he wanted.

789
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 28: When I got to play with Kobe for you know,

790
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 28: a few you know, we didn't get to we both

791
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 28: got hurt. But having to share in the locker room

792
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 28: with him at the end of our career, it was

793
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 28: an eye opener in a sense because you forget, we

794
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 28: got drafted together. We played against each other our whole careers.

795
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 28: You know, you I thought of him as a competitor.

796
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 28: I thought as the competition, you know, predominantly, So when

797
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 28: I came to the Lakers, and you could see the

798
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 28: like the worship that young players had for him. You know,

799
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 28: it was an eye opener because I never had that

800
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 28: perspective of him. But that's exactly how I was with Jordan,

801
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 28: if you know what I mean, Like when I came

802
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 28: in the league. So I'd been there, you know, i'd

803
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 28: been there, I'd done what they were doing to Kobe.

804
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 28: How exciting it was to play with Kobe. I'd done

805
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 28: having a chance to play against Jordan, you know. And

806
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 28: and so to get more from from Mike. He doesn't

807
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 28: owe anybody anything but to get more of him, for

808
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 28: him to you know, to make the speech at Kobe's service,

809
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 28: for him to do the film, for him to you know,

810
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 28: just be a little bit more opening. He's probably, like

811
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 28: you said, relaxed. You know, it's amazing for us. You know,

812
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 28: it's it's a different time, right, Like this might be it.

813
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 28: We may not get nothing anything else out of him,

814
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 28: but that's why this is so special, and we just

815
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 28: got to like we just got to enjoy it.

816
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: Best Kobe memory on or off the court.

817
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, so I got a I got a good Kobe story.

818
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 9: So my rookie year, we're playing here in Staples Center,

819
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 9: and Michale tells us before like look, you're like, he

820
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 9: pulls me aside, like you're gonna see crazy people. You're

821
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 9: gonna see celebrities there like lock In and Kobe. He's

822
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 9: gonna try and bust your ass, like he's going to

823
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 9: be like offended. You're guarding him.

824
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'm like cool, Like I love it.

825
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 4: I'm flattering to guard him. So I go there first.

826
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 9: So I'm just looking at the court side. My head's

827
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 9: on a swivel. Just I've never seen this before, right,

828
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 9: I'm like, God, damn, this is great.

829
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 4: All of them is there and this.

830
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 1: Chicks there, I'm like wow.

831
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 9: So I'm already distracted, and of course I'm starting on

832
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 9: Kobe and Jordan Hill that year had got traded from

833
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 9: Houston to La so I had known him as a

834
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 9: little side note. And fourth quarter comes around and Kobe

835
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 9: looks at me and he's like, are you guys staying

836
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 9: the night tonight? And I'm like, I'm like looking at mcale,

837
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 9: make sure he's not looking at me for and I'm like, yeah,

838
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 9: like what up, Like I'm like, oh, he's doing it

839
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 9: like he's mister Mia Gamy right now, it's like he's

840
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,439
Speaker 9: doing I'm like, yeah, what's up, we're staying. He goes,

841
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 9: I'll set you up like I'll get your number from

842
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 9: Jade Hill and like if you want to go out tonight.

843
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,439
Speaker 9: I'm like stop, Like you're like I know what you're doing,

844
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 9: Like come on. McHale's over there like Grilla me like

845
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 9: stop talking to this motherfucker. So I go ends up.

846
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 9: He ends up just going off. He's like forty that

847
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 9: game we lose. After the game, you know, like right

848
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 9: there in La Live, we go to like Katsuya and

849
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 9: we're with all the ogs, right, We're with like Camby

850
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 9: down and they're all taking me out. I get a

851
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 9: text and he goes, you're all set at supper club

852
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 9: dash Mamba and I'm like I'm like I'm like looking around,

853
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 9: like all right, who's fucking with me? Like no, no way?

854
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 9: And I'm like, Courney Lee is my guy? Right, I'm

855
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 9: like showing him like is this real? Like you guys

856
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 9: number like and I write them back. I'm like okay,

857
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 9: like like are you like I said, sound like are

858
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 9: you comment? He's like no, I can't make it, but

859
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 9: my guy will hit you up. Got next text? Hey,

860
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 9: you're set up. Let me know what you need, a

861
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 9: supper club whatever. So at this point I'm telling the table,

862
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 9: I'm like, guys.

863
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 5: I got you.

864
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 4: Like he's my guy.

865
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: He set it up.

866
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 9: Let's go, JB. Your staff is there, like I'm bringing coaches,

867
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 9: I'm bringing trainers. This is I got it, and we

868
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 9: have a blast. Right, we have the craziest night ever.

869
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 9: Supper club was the Tit was the club where the

870
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 9: tables were beds.

871
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was awesome.

872
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 9: I was like it was nuts and two am rolls

873
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 9: around and granted, I'm with these guys that made hundreds

874
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 9: of millions dollars and this waitress Bee lines right to

875
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 9: me with the check and I'm like, oh shit. And

876
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 9: my dad's my financial advisor at the time. He would

877
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 9: be on my ass if I like value size, combo

878
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 9: meal Chick fil A, and he's bringing me. She's bringing

879
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 9: me this bill for god knows how much, and I'm like,

880
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 9: oh man, I open it and it's like twenty two

881
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 9: thousand dollars.

882
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: And now at this point, I'm like I'm sick.

883
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 29: I'm physically like no, no, like I can't do this

884
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 29: because car's gonna bounce and I'll never forget this chick

885
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 29: looks at me, hands me a pen and says, sign

886
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 29: for mister Bryant.

887
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 9: And I'm like what, I'm like, video the whole thing.

888
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 9: I'm like, I'm like, signing Kobe brought. I sign Kobe

889
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 9: Bryant on a twenty two thousand dollars club bill and everyone,

890
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 9: by the way, they say he's tough, he's gonna go

891
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 9: at you. I'm like, this dude was cool as fuck.

892
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 9: He was he was awesome. It was a crazy, crazy time.

893
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 1: See I got a picture of it.

894
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 7: I still got his number.

895
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, I love the way the story went though,

896
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: because I thought because Kobe wasn't asked too, he would

897
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: have been nucky with the bill and from the weekend before,

898
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, he flipped on you. That's our guy.

899
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 5: I love that.

900
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: That's a dope, best story.

901
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 5: Nothing but love for him.

902
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 2: That's probably my favorite Kobe story.

903
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah.

904
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 30: Look with Kobe, like like with Lebron, Like when I

905
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 30: got it Lebron back then, my attitude was I'm not

906
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 30: gonna crash the offensive class and we shoot, I'm gonna

907
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 30: find him. I'm not gonna let him get out in

908
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 30: the full head of steam. So I'm not gonna let

909
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 30: him turn the corner and go right and get to

910
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 30: the rim. I'm gonna make him make contested jump shots.

911
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 30: And I'm not gonna foul if he posts me up.

912
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 30: Don't help because he beat you with his passing as much.

913
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 30: He's so like, you know, he had a game plan

914
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 30: and I actually did, Okay, I mean Lebron would have moments,

915
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 30: but like you know, I didn't have a strategy for

916
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 30: I didn't know what to do, and so sometimes man

917
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 30: like I would just he go up a shot, I'll

918
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 30: just hit his arm, like, just hit his arm and

919
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 30: just like you know. And the problem too is I

920
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 30: couldn't go back at him because that my role. You know,

921
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 30: in Phoenix, Nash had the ball in his hand. So

922
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 30: I'm stuck in the corner and I'm not you know,

923
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 30: I'm not a spot up shooter. So he was hard

924
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 30: to defend. But in that moment, man like I a

925
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 30: couple of times I guess right, like, I'm like, like

926
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 30: he's gonna go right, he's gonna shot fake, I'm not

927
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 30: I know what he's gonna do, and I'm like and

928
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 30: then you know, you know.

929
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 1: How hard it is saying this, and when you usually

930
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: square it off against him, you're saying that in your

931
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: head as yours.

932
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 30: I knew he wanted to go right, and I knew

933
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 30: he had a great ball fake, and I've seen him

934
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 30: do it before. And so he at one shot right

935
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 30: in front of our bench. We tapped Alvin on them,

936
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 30: and so he hit a touch shot on me before that,

937
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 30: and I tried to deny him the ball, but he

938
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 30: gets it, he goes right.

939
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 5: I go with him.

940
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 7: He shot faced.

941
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 4: I don't go for it.

942
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 30: I actually I get closer into him. I go up

943
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 30: when he goes up. You know how hard it is

944
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 30: to do a shot fake reload from three and somebody

945
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 30: in your grind. And I couldn't be any closer to

946
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 30: him without fouling man, this dude, Like I was like,

947
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 30: I mean, I was actually proud of the defense I played,

948
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 30: Like I'm thinking I could have done anything other than

949
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 30: just prevent him fro getting the ball. But he was

950
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 30: the best player I played against. And I say this

951
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 30: respectfully with George, I didn't guard Jordan Pippen and I

952
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 30: matched up, But the best player that I played against,

953
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 30: hands down, was Kobe.

954
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 31: Kobe throughout his career, which just he would have he

955
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 31: would either shoot me a text. And it's funny because

956
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,720
Speaker 31: having Kobe number in your phone and not abusing it

957
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 31: was like you had to ask some real restraints because

958
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 31: I had so many like niggas Kobe, like wanted to

959
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 31: talk to Kobe every day, you know what I'm saying,

960
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 31: even if even if, like you know, you had obviously

961
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 31: different mothers and fathers, like you still felt like he

962
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 31: was a brother, you know what I'm saying, because anytime

963
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 31: he talks to him, he always had some game. And

964
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 31: one thing that Kobe asked me, he was like, Yo,

965
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 31: when you're gonna like get on your business and step

966
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 31: upon you know what I'm saying. From the from the streets,

967
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 31: and I was just like never he was like ah

968
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 31: see see and just you know, he'd be like all right,

969
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 31: I get with you. But one thing about Kobe in

970
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 31: the documentary, every time I seen him, every time we talk,

971
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 31: he would just always tell me how much that album

972
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 31: meant to him. But even more so than the documentary,

973
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 31: it was the doctor's advocate for him. The doctor's advocate

974
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 31: was the one. You know what I'm saying, He was

975
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 31: just like yo, like one blood and like I work

976
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 31: out every day. Every morning, I'm up and I throw

977
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 31: this on. And every time I came to the Staples

978
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 31: Center to see Kobe, like he if he saw me,

979
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 31: I don't know. I ain't never seen a nigga with

980
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 31: a phone in.

981
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 5: His short it was, yeah, it was.

982
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 31: It would start running, man, And so like I still

983
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 31: feel indebted to Kobe just for his contribution to the city,

984
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 31: for him never wavering from you know, like playing for

985
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 31: the Lakers, never being traded, never abandoned the ship, like

986
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 31: just taking it in the last game.

987
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I said that. Yo.

988
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 31: I watched it. I watched the niggas double team. It

989
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 31: wasn't easy. I watched him get sixty on the way out.

990
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 31: And it's like that, like when we talk about Kobe,

991
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 31: I mean, under these glasses, if I say to say

992
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 31: his name too much, I'm gonna start crying. All though,

993
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 31: because it's like you would never I would. You would

994
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,919
Speaker 31: have never thought in a million years that Kobe would

995
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 31: meet an untimely Demid.

996
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 5: It's a superhero.

997
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: Yeah. So the end of twenty nineteen, you unfortunately lost

998
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: your mother. The beginning of twenty twenty, you lost some

999
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: another mentor to you, David Stern, and then we all

1000
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: lost Kobe the end of that January talk to us

1001
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: just about where you were as a person outside of business.

1002
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: But obviously business had to continue. But as a person,

1003
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: that's a lot for anyone to handle. Yeah, it's.

1004
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 16: And I'm glad the way you said that we all

1005
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 16: lost Kobe, because when people would say to me and

1006
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 16: express their condolences, I would correct them and say, hey,

1007
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 16: the world lost somebody really special. And just him as

1008
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 16: a friend and as a motivator and watching him as

1009
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 16: a father and a husband. You know, he just he

1010
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 16: was a leader and you know he's irreplaceable. And the

1011
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 16: knowledge that he shared with people, I had no idea

1012
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 16: until after he passed it. I mean I knew he

1013
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 16: helped basketball players, but every he helped everybody, people in

1014
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,959
Speaker 16: every kind of sport, and even me when I think

1015
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:39,959
Speaker 16: back to you know, he after my father passed away

1016
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 16: in twenty thirteen, he invited me to have lunch and

1017
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 16: I you know, I met him down in Orange County

1018
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 16: and he brought Gianna with him and he said, I

1019
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 16: hope it's okay with you. I brought Gianna because I

1020
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 16: want her to see a really powerful woman and I

1021
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 16: realized later that really what he was doing was motivating

1022
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 16: me absolutely, And he's just he was, you know, somebody

1023
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 16: that I valued and will continue to value. And I

1024
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 16: hope that what he stood for, and you know, the

1025
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 16: lessons that he taught people like me, I will continue

1026
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 16: to pass on to other people, and I think his

1027
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 16: legend will continue to grow.

1028
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had an opportunity one of his last, if

1029
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: not his last interviews. We went out there and interviewed him,

1030
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: and before we even got to the interview, he brought

1031
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: me and Jack into his office and he was just

1032
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: so adamant on putting the first twenty years of his

1033
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: greatness to bed and being that next but what's my

1034
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 1: next act? The businessman, the father, the you know everything

1035
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 1: else he was involved in. But it was amazing to

1036
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: me just all the other things he was into. And

1037
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: he was, you know, at the time, finishing his I

1038
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: think his second or third children's novel, and he had

1039
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: signed some books for me and the boys, and you know,

1040
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: we asked him how he got into it and just

1041
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: the detail he would give us in the getting a

1042
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: chance to play with them, the veracity he the approach

1043
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: he took, the basketball, he took that same approach to business,

1044
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,479
Speaker 1: you know, and it was scary because he was such

1045
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: a competitor on the court, but he was even more

1046
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,760
Speaker 1: competitive off the court, because it's like, Okay, the Kobe

1047
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: I was in the past doesn't mean shit now, Like

1048
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: I got to kind of reinvent myself and and and

1049
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: move forward. And that really just touched me. But you know,

1050
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: obviously we lost, we all lost something very special.