1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: This week, we have a part one of a special 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: two part episode that was so good we wanted to 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: share all of it with you, So today is part one. 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: Then join us next week for Part two and the Questions. 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to Morenita, a deep dive into the Latin X experience. 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: With Monita, we want to create a community and a 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: shared space with you while sharing knowledge and inspiration. This 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: show is about celebrating our culture with guests who exemplify 9 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: the best of us. I'm Darrylene Gastillo, Ethane Vito, Hey 10 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: me hand. Today I have the very special honor of 11 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: welcoming a woman I am proud to call my friend, 12 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: a woman I've known for years, and a woman who 13 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: played a crucial role in my be in your Ears today. 14 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: Her name is Jasmine Romero. Jasmine and I went to 15 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: school together. What Jasmine and I discussed today really stood 16 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: out to me, and I wanted to highlight them for you. 17 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: Back when we were in college, we both worked our 18 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: asses off to become the best possible performers we could 19 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: be so that we could take the stage and screen 20 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: when we got out of college and we were ready 21 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: to come out of the gate and work, and when 22 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: I say work, I mean work hard. But there's a 23 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: reality to this business that we talked about in today's show. 24 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: At auditions used to the same people for the same roles. 25 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: And when there are fortified roles that are written for 26 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: a certain type, that's cool. If you don't get one, 27 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: maybe you get another. But when there's one role, well, 28 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: it's the same twenty people over and over and over 29 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: again for that role, and most of the time there's 30 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: not even that one role. And that's the way the 31 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: industry is. We've had guests on this show talk about 32 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: Eva DuVernay, how she built her career and then kept 33 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: the door open for other people of color by only 34 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: hiring underrepresented crew so they could build networks. You know, 35 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: my boy Limb Monel Miranda has been doing the same 36 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: in our community for a second. Now, those are the 37 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: shows we keep auditioning for, but we need more people 38 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: like us doing the hiring. Jasmine and I get into that, 39 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: and with that, I leave you here with Jasmine Romeo. Finally, 40 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: Jasmine Rometo has entered more Anita. She is the head 41 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: of development for which is our platform here Podcasting World 42 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: and um, Jasmine and I we go way back all 43 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: the way wait wait, wait, wait, wait, back all the 44 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: way back to the point where Jasmine used to share 45 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: the stage with and used to be outside in the 46 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: spotlight performing, and now she is leading rooms that I'm 47 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: so grateful to be in and be a part of, 48 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: um because I think that that is her spotlight and 49 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: that's where she belongs. And um, yeah, Jasmine, I mean, 50 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: let's talk about let's talk about actor transition into boss 51 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: ass bitch. Well, I I aspire to boss as bitch levels. Um, 52 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: but I appreciate you throwing some shine on me. Um. 53 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: I think, first off, like, it's crazy that I remember 54 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: seeing you at auditions. I remember seeing you in college 55 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: and being like, Yo, this girl has it. I think 56 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: you were in the year under me. Were we in 57 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: the same year? You were in a year under me? Right? 58 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: Was it one year younger under year or two? I 59 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: graduated CCNY two thirteen, not to give anybody my age, 60 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: not like I really care. I honestly I never remember, 61 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: but I think I graduated in so I think you're 62 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: a one year younger than me. And I remember you 63 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: coming in and I was like this, bitch, because it's like, 64 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: you're so fucking talented, and and once we were both 65 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: out there. You know what It's like, like all the 66 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: brown girls in New York City know each other. We 67 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: all see each other at all the auditions. It's like, oh, 68 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: you're you're here for this too, dope cool And like 69 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: I just loved seeing you out there and seeing you 70 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: shine and it's been amazing to watch your journey. Um So, 71 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: but also like I think it's super important for all 72 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: of us to support each other because it's so easy 73 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: for the industry to like make you feel like those 74 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: people are your competition and they're not. Where there's enough 75 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: room at the table for all of us to eat 76 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: and it doesn't need to be like that. And uh, 77 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: and I think you and I have always been supportive 78 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: of each other, and so it's it's really nice to 79 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: to see that, you know, that camaraderie. Alright, So I 80 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: think also like where we went to I was gonna say, 81 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: also like where we went to school, City College, shoutout 82 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: go Beavers. We went to school. I think that also 83 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: like set us up for that in a weird way. 84 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: Like I don't ever feel like our training was based 85 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: on competition. It was always like based on working together 86 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: and that was like New Waters for me because I 87 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: came from like a theater world of like competing and 88 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: that kind of energy, where coming into c c n 89 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: Y it was very different for us. It was very 90 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: much about like how do we work together and like 91 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: build this production together? And I just wanted to give 92 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: a shout out to that training because I think that 93 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: that's something that has stuck with us throughout our careers 94 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: moving forward. Well, I think it comes from the fact that, 95 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: you know, we were all broke, Like we weren't at Columbia, 96 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: we weren't at NYU this. We were all at c 97 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: c n Y scraping, hustling, you know, And I think 98 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: we all felt like outsiders because you know, theater, acting, 99 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: all of those worlds are just like everything else, it's 100 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: all about who you know, and that gives you you know, 101 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: it's not gonna make your road for you, but it 102 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: certainly opens a door. And all of us were coming 103 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: to this from complain like not even close to the door. 104 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: We were outside the house, like out on the street, 105 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like we had nothing and 106 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: knew no one. And I think being in that kind 107 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,119 Speaker 1: of environment forces you to sort of like band together 108 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: and be like how can I help you. Yes, there's 109 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: an audition. I think you'd be great for this. Yo, Bet, 110 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: I'll see you there. Let's take dance class together. It 111 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: just it creates this sort of community with each other, 112 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: because it really is, it's so cutthroat. It's it's crazy 113 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: out there. I don't I miss it, but I don't 114 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: miss it, you know what I mean? Yes, So tell 115 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: me what it's like not doing it and doing like 116 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: amazing other other amazing things like talk to me, how 117 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: did you transition? How did that happen? I wanted people 118 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: to know, like where we come from and where ccny 119 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: like that kind of like community base. Really, I think 120 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: forced us to step up and pull up. So what 121 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: was that for you? I remember being at a point 122 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: where I was going in for all the same stuff. 123 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: It was West Side Story in the Heights, and then 124 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: like really or like right as I was leaving, I 125 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: went in for final callb expert for Hamilton's when it 126 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: was still at the Public. I would see all the 127 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: same girls all the time, and I was always like, 128 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: you know, I I can dance, but I'm not a dancer, 129 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: And so like Maria, first of all, look at me. 130 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: No one's ever going to believe that I'm Maria. I 131 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: was always Anita because a bitch is big, and yeah, 132 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: I'm five ft eight, no very tall, you're very tall. No, 133 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: it's kinda like this giant Maria because of the stage. 134 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: So I had to go for Anita. And like all 135 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: this to say that, like there are very few roles 136 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: for Latinas on Broadway. There have not been very many 137 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: musicals that have been made for Latinas on Broadway. And 138 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: so I was seeing all the same girls at all 139 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: the auditions, and I was and theater is really the 140 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: kind of industry that like asks you to give up 141 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: everything in your life in service of that dream. It's 142 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: like you're out there waiting tables, and every extra dollar 143 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: that you have that is not going towards rent is 144 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: going towards dance lessons and and singing lessons and acting 145 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: class and going to see shows and you know, getting 146 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: the new cast recording of something like you're trying to 147 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: invest in that dream constantly, and it really takes everything 148 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: from you not to mention once you're on Broadway and 149 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: then they're asking you to perform on Thanksgiving, to perform 150 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: on Christmas, to miss your family's like it's just it's 151 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: a really cutthroat and difficult industry to be in. And 152 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 1: I remember looking around and seeing how few opportunities there 153 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: were for folks and just being really tired. Uh. And 154 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: I was like, Lynn, can't be the only one out 155 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: here doing all the work for us, you know. Um. 156 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: And so I I met up with a girl that 157 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: was in one of the acting classes that I was in, 158 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: and I was like, Hey, how what if we write 159 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: something together, something that like we could be in, like 160 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: a short film or something. Uh. And I had never 161 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: really written like that before, but we like wrote this 162 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: whole web series. Uh. And I got really excited and 163 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: interested in sort of like developing material that could be 164 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: for us and creating more opportunities for Latinos in the industry. 165 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: And I had never listened to a podcast before. I 166 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: was like, what podcasts are white people should for white people? 167 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: It's either This American Life or Joe Rogan and there's 168 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: no space for me in there. I don't know those folks, 169 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: and so that's not for me. And uh and I 170 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: got a push notification from Spotify about this show called Mogul, 171 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 1: which was about the life of this incredible hip hop 172 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: manager Chris Ldy, who at the height of his career 173 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: committed suicide. And the whole podcast is this investigation into 174 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: what happened to Chris Ldy. And I just remember falling 175 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: in love with those voices and recognizing who those people were. 176 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up at in South central l A. 177 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: Like I knew hip hop, I knew the people in 178 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: my neighborhood, and I was like, oh, I recognize these people. 179 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: And I just fell in love with it as an 180 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: art form. And and ever since then, you know, I 181 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: started a gimlet as an associate producer, not knowing anything 182 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: about podcasts at all, and just worked my way up 183 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 1: and learned and learned how to cut tape and learned 184 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: how to interview and learned how to produce and was 185 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: just super hungry for it. And it was so exciting. 186 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: I hadn't felt so excited in years because being in theater, 187 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: like I felt like I I knew what that world 188 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: was and this was a whole new world and a 189 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 1: new way to be creative. Um and so I I, 190 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 1: you know, I just I went back to grinding, but 191 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: in a different way, and I worked my way up, 192 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: and you know, Sonoro, is this place that is dedicated 193 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: to amplifying Latino voices. I fell in love with the mission. Um. 194 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: I was here for almost two years, and and last 195 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: week was actually my last week. And now I'm on 196 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: in the transition to something else, which is which is 197 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: also crazy and scary. I'm like sad faced, but so 198 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: happy and so excited for you. I want to give 199 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: like some some like backing up to what you said. 200 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: Because when you called me and you were like, hey, 201 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: I got this podcast company I work for, I'm like, 202 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: podcast girl, what what the hell are they gonna do 203 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: with me? Because podcasts have that they I mean, I 204 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: don't know in our community, I don't know. I didn't 205 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: really even like my mom, who's like very highly educated 206 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: and doctor from n y U and like loves radio podcasts, 207 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: even she was like what a podcast isn't that? Is 208 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: there a place for us there? And I'm like, yeah, 209 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: I didn't know either until you called me and reached 210 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: out and I was like, oh my god, Jasmine is 211 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: like doing something like huge and like building this and 212 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: like developing and not only that, but like the stories 213 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: that you are part of. Beyond the podcasting was just 214 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: like hosting and things along those lines like storytelling. I mean, 215 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that our stories were being told 216 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: so well. It's almost like my widened. One of the 217 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: big challenges of being an executive in podcasting for years, 218 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: it's been this this story of oh, Latinos don't listen 219 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: to podcasts, and it's like, well, they don't listen to 220 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: podcasts because you've never made podcasts for them. It's the 221 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: exact reason why I didn't listen to podcasts until I 222 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: started listening to podcasts, because I didn't think there was 223 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: anything there for me. And if we don't create that stuff, 224 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: they're never gonna come. It is the exact same argument 225 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: that people make for for not having more Latino focused 226 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: shows on Broadway. It's like, oh, Latino audience is don't 227 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: show up to Broadway. It's like, well, have you made 228 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: a show that they relate to? Because last time I 229 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: Checked in the Heights was a huge success. Look at 230 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: the whole cast of Hamilton's that was a huge success. 231 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: But like, Lynn can't be the only one which shows 232 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: on Broadway. We need to be investing more. If you 233 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: want to build these audiences, build shows that they can 234 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: relate to. You know, it's I've heard this argument of like, oh, 235 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: we don't want to alienate white audiences, like can they 236 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: relate to this? Are they going to see themselves in this? 237 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: It's like, well, we saw ourselves in Full House, we 238 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: saw ourselves in Everybody Loves Raymond. Like stories are universal, 239 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: it's it's just the flavoring that's different. And I just 240 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: I I I really miss being on the other side 241 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: of things and acting. But I also recognize how much 242 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: change I can um evoke being on this side, and 243 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: how important that and necessary that changes because and there's 244 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: a whole crew of people that are out here trying 245 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: to create that change that we so desperately need that representation. 246 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: I'm tired of seeing every year like the same news 247 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: story Latinos are underrepresented in Hollywood. Latinos make up x 248 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: amount of the population, but there's only they only make 249 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: up this much in seats of power. Like I'm tired. 250 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: And as long as nobody steps up to the plate 251 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: and starts trying to make that change happen from the 252 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: ground up, it's never going to change. The people in 253 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: power have no incentive incentive to make this change, And 254 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: so we need to be the ones that go out 255 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: there and make this change. And I think something that 256 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: I'm hearing too is like there's this like need to 257 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: please white audiences and I and I have to say, 258 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: I've worked with Latinos who even in that power of position, 259 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: they still are challenged with that same thing being thrown 260 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: at them. And it's like, you know what, No, I'm 261 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: not making this for that person. I'm making this for 262 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: our community. In our community, as you said, we are 263 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: involved in all these other white audience focus shows right 264 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: as the whatever that may be, whether it's a stereotype 265 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: or maybe sometimes it's a little more fully fleshed. But 266 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: I think you're so right, and like there's a hunger 267 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: and a need for that. And I can't think of 268 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: like anybody else to throw out there but you because 269 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: if you have that, you have that, you have that energy, 270 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: and you have that push and you have that passion 271 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: to fight against that and that's necessary. We need that. 272 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: And what is happening? Where are you going? What are 273 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: we doing? Where we putting this passion? Well, you know, 274 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: it's it's definitely scary to like leave your full time 275 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: job that like pays your bills, and you know it's 276 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: very and not only that, but like a job that 277 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: I loved and was passionate about to take that leap, 278 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: But it really comes from this place of like, Okay, So, 279 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: the whole reason why I came to Sonoro was to 280 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: make this show, um Princess of South Beach that came 281 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: out last year that I love dearly. It's a telenovela. 282 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: It's an English and Spanish. It features this like really 283 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: beautiful multicolored cast that like features all different colors of latinos. 284 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: I love the show. Um. So I wrote that show, 285 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: um and and and came to Sonaro to be head 286 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: of development and sort of like help other creators make 287 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: their shows. And the show came out and I got 288 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: to oversee production and all of that was amazing. And 289 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: ever since then, I've I've I've been so busy helping 290 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: other folks make their stuff that I haven't been able 291 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: to sit down and write, and I haven't been able 292 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: to sit down and like actually spend creative energy on 293 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: what is the next Princess of South Beach? What is 294 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: the next story that I want to I want to 295 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: focus on. And I sort of realized, like being an executive, 296 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: like we desperately need executives in positions of power that 297 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: can green light shows. But I also have the rest 298 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: of my life to be an executive, and I don't 299 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: want to waste this creative energy. I think it's a 300 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 1: weird thing to say, but my biggest fear in life 301 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: is that I'm going to die with a great story 302 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: inside of me that I couldn't figure out how to tell, 303 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,719 Speaker 1: or I didn't spend the time to tell that. That 304 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: is my actual greatest fear is that I will be 305 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: on my deathbed and I'll be like fuck, Like that's 306 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: my big regret. And so I, you know, I started 307 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: feeling that that feeling of like, you know what, maybe 308 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: maybe it's time, maybe I should take the leap, and uh, 309 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: and I, you know, I had a lot of bottles 310 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: of wine with a lot of friends and was like, 311 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: what do I do? What do I do? And everyone 312 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: was like, take the leap. If you're feeling that feeling, 313 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 1: take the leap. Because no one is ever going to 314 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: tell you to bet on you. No one is ever 315 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: going to care about your dreams as much as you do. 316 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: And so if you are feeling that urge to take 317 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: the leap, do it. If you're at a job and 318 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: you feel comfortable that means you stopped growing. If you 319 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: know what you're doing and how to do it and 320 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: you're on autopilot, you're not learning anything new, you're not growing, 321 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: you're not challenging yourself. That's when it's time to leave. 322 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: And a lot of people avoid that discomfort. They don't 323 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: want to go into that uncomfortable place of uncertainty of 324 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: not knowing what the next thing is. But as long 325 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: as the door to opportunity is closed, those things will 326 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: not come to you. And you have to be the 327 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: one to open that door to new opportunities. It's super scary, 328 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. I'm super scared. This is a 329 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: totally new thing for me to to take the leap 330 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: on this new creative venture. Like theater, I know that world, podcasts, 331 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: I know this world, but like now focusing on trying 332 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: to tell my own stories and and create new new worlds. 333 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: Like that's a new venture for me, and I'm scared, 334 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: but I'm also excited because if you don't give yourself 335 00:18:54,280 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: the chance to go after those opportunities, like you're gonna 336 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: be seventy years old and you're gonna have had this steady, 337 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: stable job for your whole life. And you're gonna be 338 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: like cool. I I didn't go after any of the 339 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: stuff that I wanted to do because I was too scared. 340 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: And that's really just I want to take advantage of 341 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: now while I still have energy and creative drive. You know, 342 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: you've made this big, scary decision, this big leap decision 343 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: UM to leave son at all and to now begin 344 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: investing more in yourself. You know, So what does that 345 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: look like for you? Yeah? Writing awesome. I know you're 346 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: gonna do a ship ton of that UM. And what 347 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: else is that? Is there a goal for yourself that 348 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: you have set, Like, what is the mecca for you? 349 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: The mecca for me? I figured it out a couple 350 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: of years ago, and I find that this is actually 351 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: super helpful, is knowing what your goal is, because then 352 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: it makes all of your decision making super clear. If 353 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: you know exactly where you want to go, then every 354 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: decision that's put in front of you, it's just does 355 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: this help me get there? Or does it not? Uh? 356 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: And So a couple of years ago I heard an 357 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: interview with this this UM film executive named Nina Jacobson. 358 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: She was the head of one of his best the 359 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: pictures like which is a part of Disney. She was 360 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: the person that green light Pirates of the Caribbean. And 361 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 1: when she green light that, everyone was like, what are 362 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: you talking about. That's a theme park ride, that's not 363 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: a movie. You're insane, And she was like, no, I 364 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: see it, I know it's there. And it was a 365 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: huge success. Then, you know, some years later she got 366 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: fired um and had to go out on her own 367 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: and was in this super uncomfortable place and she was like, no, 368 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: I know that, I know what a good story is. 369 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to go out and build my own thing 370 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: and do it on my own. And the next thing 371 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: she green light was a little book she optioned called 372 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: The Hunger Games. And I just I reckon and she's 373 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: super casual, Yeah, like this this little thing called The 374 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: Hunger Games, and I just I recognized that she was 375 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: doing for women what I wanted to do for latinos 376 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: is like sort of green lighting these sorts. Her new 377 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: company was all about, like putting women's stories first and 378 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: at the center of the narrative. And so what Nina 379 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: Jacobson does, what Shonda Rhymes does for black women, putting 380 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: them at the center of these stories, giving them these 381 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: deep complex characters, but also stuff that is super entertaining. 382 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: I want to do that for Latinos. I think that 383 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: we deserve a version of Britain and a version of 384 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: Gossip Girl, and and that is why I created Princess 385 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: of South Beach. So what that's that's the big goal 386 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: is to be in Hollywood and to not only be 387 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: making podcast but to me making TV shows and films 388 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 1: and books and comic books and all different kinds of 389 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: media that highlights our stories. Um, how do I do that? 390 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: You start with Princess of South Beach. Um, we got 391 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: this incredible cast together. I'm really hopeful that it's going 392 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: to turn into a TV show. Um, hope fully. That's 393 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: something that we can all celebrate soon, is that the 394 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: news comes out that it's turning into a TV show. 395 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put that on the universe. Um. So that's 396 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: you know, one iron in the fire. Now I need 397 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,239 Speaker 1: to start creating more of those. And I also need 398 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: to start building relationships with the other people that are 399 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: in this space and like in TV and film and 400 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: so I'm going out to l A for the summer 401 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: um to meet people, to focus on writing, to just 402 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: you know, put myself in a space where I'm uncomfortable 403 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: and I have to do this because I've but I quick, 404 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: because i quit my job and I'm forcing myself into 405 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: this thing to do. You know, I'm about to send 406 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: you like six cases of wine just get you, like 407 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: a stash for like your writing wine from Darryln Castillo. Yes, yes, please, 408 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna send my cash app, my venmo your girls unemployed, 409 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: please send one. I just remember like seeing you in 410 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: college and always seeing that fire in you. I think 411 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: that's why I always connected with you, because we we 412 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: had that like in our in our separate and individual ways. 413 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: But I was like, Yo, this girl is like I 414 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: don't know what she's gonna do, but it's going to 415 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: be major. It's going to be major. The idea of like, oh, 416 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: let me put my boundaries in my mental health and 417 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: and make sure that my cup is full so I 418 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: can actually do what I need to do. And and 419 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: that's of course all the trauma and the generational issues 420 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: um that come from being a minority, I believe as well. 421 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: Is that something that you challenges you as well? Like 422 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: do you have that relationship with your parents? Is that 423 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: hard for your parents to fathom your quitting, so not all. No, 424 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 1: they're actually really proud of me for taking the leap, 425 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: and I'm really grateful for that and that, like whatever 426 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: it is that I choose to do, my parents have 427 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: always been super supportive and they really do believe in this. 428 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: Like we worked hard so that you could work smart. 429 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: We worked hard so that you didn't have to sacrifice 430 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: your whole life. Um, So I'm super grateful for that. Um. 431 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 1: But I also I definitely there were definitely times where 432 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: my dad would call me and he'd be like, oh, 433 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: you're working, Like quote unquote you're working and you're sitting 434 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 1: in your chair and your office like typing on your keyboard. 435 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: Woo's looks so hard, you know what I mean? Like, yes, Dad, 436 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: I know I'm not out there pulling ropes and like 437 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 1: pulling water out of them, well with a rope, but 438 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: like I am working. It was actually I feel that 439 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: at one point my mom um got to see me 440 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: in a table at it, which, like you know, for 441 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: for these for some of the nonfiction narrative shows that 442 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: we do, they're like months long investigations and then you 443 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: pull pull all the tape and you put a script 444 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: together and you try to see if it's working. Um. 445 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: And I had the whole team together and we were 446 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: working on something and she was listening, uh, and she 447 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: listened to all of the feedback that I gave the 448 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: team and it was like it finally clicked for her 449 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: what I actually do. And UM, I think for them 450 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: it's hard because they have no way to conceptualize what 451 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: it is that we're doing. They worked, They understand work 452 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: as like Okay, I'm gonna put this thing on my 453 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: back and I'm gonna work, and they don't. They've never 454 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: had the opportunity to be mentally burned out the way 455 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: that we are. You know what I mean, to have 456 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: like creative burnout and not be able to write at 457 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: the end of the day, or to have like mental 458 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: exhaustion because you've been on zoom for eight hours straight. 459 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: Like that's the thing that they've never had to deal with. 460 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: And so I try to have grace for them because 461 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: I know that, like I'm like, yes, Dad, this is work, 462 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: this is how I work. UM, because I know that 463 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: they don't get it. UM, But yeah, it's you know, 464 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 1: it's a balance, but they try, at least they try. 465 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: They're trying. It's not militia. But um, now that you're 466 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: going to be transitioning into investing for yourself, I'm not 467 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: gonna I'm not gonna say you're unemployed, girl, because I 468 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: know you're not going to you about to somebody gonna 469 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: come out here and scoop you up, like in two hours, 470 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it fun employed. I'm gonna say fun 471 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: employed currently fun employed because I'm focusing on myself and 472 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: my creative endeavors. So how are you planning on creating 473 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 1: those boundaries for yourself and and and balancing all of that? 474 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 1: Are you? And I'm saying this because I'm asking this 475 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: to you because are you in a place where um, 476 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: yes is not going to become your answer all the time? 477 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: Are you in a place where no is about to 478 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 1: become a part of your vocabulary? More, where you're gonna 479 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 1: be making decisions for yourself? Because yeah, we can talk 480 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: about oh, I'm gonna leave this job, but then hey, 481 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: sometimes people do that and end up in another cycle 482 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: of something that maybe is not investing in themselves. So 483 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: what are you doing to create that narrative for yourself? 484 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: Why are you? Why are you reading me? How dare you? 485 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: I see you girl. Yes, No, that's that's for sure 486 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: a problem that I've had in the past. And um, 487 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,719 Speaker 1: I think because we come from you know, immigrant families 488 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 1: and you know minority families, it's like, oh, there's an 489 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: opportunity in front of me, I have to say yes. 490 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: I can't turn this down. Like and then you end 491 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: up saying yes to too many things and you're stretched 492 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: too thin and you can't deliver what you wanted to deliver, 493 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: and it becomes this crazy cycle of like beating yourself 494 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: up because you didn't deliver the thing that you wanted 495 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: to and but it's because it's your own fault because 496 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 1: you said yes to too many things. UM. I've definitely 497 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: fallen into that cycle and that pattern before. And I 498 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 1: think a part of what this next chapter is going 499 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: to be for me is being disciplined about the time 500 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: that I'm making for myself, because if I'm not, I 501 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 1: also want to say this to just like sort of 502 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: get it out of the way, Like I do not 503 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 1: take lightly at all the fact that I quit my 504 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: job because I have a team at Sonora that I 505 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: love deeply, and I had a lot of projects that 506 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: I was working on that I also loved deeply, and 507 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: it was really really hard for me to walk away 508 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: from that and and to say like, no, I'm gonna 509 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: focus on myself. I'm gonna focus on my own work. 510 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: Like that's a whole group of people that I'm leaving 511 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: in the middle of stuff too, for this very selfish 512 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: thing of like, no, I'm gonna focus on my own 513 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: work and I need time for me, right. The fact 514 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: that I made that decision a is hard because you know, 515 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: like there's that narrative of like, oh, you're being selfish 516 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: for focusing on yourself and and letting down the team. 517 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: But I also want to use that sort of like 518 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: to reverse psychology myself and say, yeah, okay, so you 519 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: made that decision. If you're not going to actually take 520 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: advantage of that time and focus on your own work 521 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: and actually do the work that you said you were 522 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: going to do, then you left them for nothing. You 523 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: left them for no reason, and all of the good 524 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: work that you could have been doing with your team 525 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: now now what you're squandering it so that you can 526 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: scroll TikTok all day, Like that's not why you left. 527 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: And so a part of it is is being disciplined 528 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: and holding myself accountable for this time. Right if if 529 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: I felt like what was missing was time, if I 530 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: didn't have enough time, well now I have the time. 531 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: Now it's up to me. Now, the only person that 532 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: can answer to you I have. I have no boss anymore. 533 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: The only person that I'm answering to is myself. And 534 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: so I have to hold myself accountable for that time 535 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: um and make sure that I'm using it wisely. And 536 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: that means saying no to some opportunities that are going 537 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: to come knocking, and not saying yes to everything just 538 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: because it's there. You have to be disciplined and be 539 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: responsible for yourself. I love that as a visual. I 540 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: don't know why, just like in my mind, I'm like 541 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: seeing you like walking away but like with so much 542 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: like pride and so much on your even on yourself. 543 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to say pressure, but like so much 544 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: like of the work that you've done that you are 545 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: going to be continuing to do. And I just see that, 546 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: like I just I envisioned that. I see you like 547 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: doing that and bringing all those people um in your 548 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: heart and your spirit maybe even like pulling up with 549 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: some of them, like I see that for you, And 550 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: I've always known known that you are that kind of 551 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: person that you never leave something without thinking about the 552 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: people that even brought you to that moment and brought 553 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: you to that position. And I think that that's really 554 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: special and we need that because there's a lot of 555 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: people that come out and pull out and then become 556 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,959 Speaker 1: these gatekeepers and then start to by who who are you? 557 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: I never met you? Okay, And and I just feel 558 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: like you take such pride and like the people that 559 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: you've spent your time around, and it shows in your 560 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: work too, and it shows in the people that you 561 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: have around you. So I just want to say, like, 562 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm really proud of you. And I already know you're 563 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,959 Speaker 1: gonna like kill it, and like you already know I'm 564 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: gonna be in that audition room like what's popping? Girl 565 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: was cracking? You need a Dominican from you? You're gonna 566 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: come at Just give it to her. That can't all 567 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: the rest of the people I know who I want 568 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: Cayns here, But but I'm so proud of you. Like 569 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: all jokes aside, and um, I think everybody is so 570 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: not a Like every time I've talked to anybody about you, 571 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: it's like they love you. So much and appreciate you 572 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: and your energy and everything that you've done. On that end. Man, 573 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: you're about to kill it, I hope, so your your 574 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: mouth to God's ears. Man, we just need more of 575 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: us out there doing it. We need more work, We 576 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: need more representation. We need more Latino people at every level, 577 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: in the in the executive chair, in the casting director seat, 578 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: in front the camera, behind the camera, like everywhere. And 579 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: if I can do even a little bit to to 580 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: help that mission and to help that journey and to 581 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: bring up new folks like man, I gotta do it. 582 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: I gotta do it, not just for me, but for 583 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: my parents. It's definitely going noticed. And your passion. I 584 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: think listening to you even just speak about your next 585 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: chapter and your next journey is it's all aligned and 586 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: it's all there, and I already know like you don't 587 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: half ask anything, you pull up every single time. That 588 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: was so much fun. And there's another part coming next week, 589 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: So tune into mon Anita next week to hear the 590 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: rest of this conversation. Mona Nita is a production of 591 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: Sonato in partnership with I Heart Radios micro podcast network. 592 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from I Heart Radio, visit the I 593 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to 594 00:32:53,280 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: your favorite shows.