1 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: At this job. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:06,039 Speaker 2: We're a family. 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 3: No, we're co workers. 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 4: We're in a store, not a vin Diesel movie. What 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 4: do you think this is fast and furious ten dollars 6 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 4: an hour. I hate to disappoint you, but I've applied 7 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 4: to forty other families this week. We're not family, we're 8 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 4: acquaintances to keep our lunch in the same fridge. 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: Good morning, swimmer and welcome to the No Dunks podcast 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: on the Athletic Network. It's Tuesday, May twenty fourth. We're 11 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 2: here in the Classic Factory. This is family. 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We'll hit the beach, 31 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 2: I promise when one of these series wraps up, possibly tonight, lely, 32 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 2: we'll get to that. We'll get to the Western Conference 33 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: finals later today. 34 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 1: Though. 35 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: If you're a fan of F one racing the Room Rooms, 36 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: join Trey Kirby and Grading Gordian as they break down 37 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: the Spanish GP, a dramatic race on the weeknd attic indeed, 38 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: so these guys will have lots to talk about with that. 39 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: I saw a bunch of great in tweets. He had 40 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: a lot of takes over the weekend about this race. 41 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 2: So that's at one pm Eastern, no breaks. Just a 42 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: reminder has its own YouTube feed and its own podcast feed, 43 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 2: So if you are a fan of the racing, check 44 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: out have you been listening to these guys break down these. 45 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: Race Yes, yeah, that's great. It's my favorite F one podcast. 46 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 2: Is it your only F one podcast that you're listening to? 47 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: Yes? It is. That's fine, it's still my favorite. 48 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 2: Good Good, Thank you for your honesty. Okay, let's talk 49 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 2: about the shit show that was that game last night. 50 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 2: What's going on here? I mean I asked Trey actually 51 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: on a top Shot stream that we did on the weekend, 52 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: I said, how many consecutive nights of basketball or playoff 53 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: games of let's say, like twenty twenty five thirty point victories? 54 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: How many in a row would it take for you 55 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 2: to like stop watching baskets? Yeah, one hundred two hundred. 56 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: Like me to be honest with me, Like, let's just 57 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 2: say every game for a one hundred nights, it's just 58 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 2: a twenty five point flow out, you know, Like when 59 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: would you finally be like, you know what, I'm done 60 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 2: with this sport. 61 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: I didn't think it would be something I would contemplate, 62 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: but maybe it is. I mean, justin Fan had the 63 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: stat the victory of margin victory last seventeen playoff games 64 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: twenty nine, six nine, twenty five, twenty five, eleven, thirty three, 65 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: twenty eight, thirteen, fourteen, twenty seven, nine, three thirty nine, 66 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: thirty thirty five. Average margin victory nineteen point eight points 67 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: has been the total of seven clutch time minutes. 68 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 2: Seven seven total minutes in how many games? 69 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: I mean? I just listed twenty. I suppose good. I 70 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: don't know. 71 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 2: Take three weeks seventeen was it? 72 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? It said seventeen nine red. 73 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: Okay, Well yeah it's rough right now. But the Celtics 74 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 2: have tied this up. Hey, at least we get a 75 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: pivotal game five. Yeah, that's good. It is two to 76 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: this series. Well, this weird out series. Let's break it down. 77 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: Those Celtics torch the heat early here and they get 78 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: the one or two eighty two bloins. 79 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, look, if I say to you the Flu game, 80 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about, don't you. If I 81 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: say the lebron Stare game, you know what I'm talking 82 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: about too, don't you? Both of those games his monumental 83 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: in the NBA landscape. I've got another one to add. 84 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: Last night's game was the My Buddy Grish game, because 85 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: I think My Buddy Grish would have set the world 86 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: record last night, a new world record. 87 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 2: For the podcast lister and we've got a great you've 88 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: seen more follow shop. But my buddy Grish's feace on bo. 89 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: Sad because because I don't know if you were with 90 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: him or not. 91 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: I watched the first half and I said, fuck this 92 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: good name. 93 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: Because I called this myself. Jason Jalen Brown picked up 94 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: a second foul and checked out of the game. At 95 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: six forty four, Peyton Pritchett came in and I thought, okay, 96 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: twelve one, but he's he's in a little bit of 97 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: foul trouble here. But then they came down. Tatum hit 98 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: a shot and then Jason Tatum hit an ally you 99 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: from Derek White boom, five forty seven to go. My 100 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: wife said to me, like, who's playing tonight, Celtics seat 101 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: I has a going It's. 102 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 2: Over, It's over. Called it in the Grisham called this 103 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,239 Speaker 2: when Derek waits for the first seven points. 104 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: It was pretty right, there, wasn't it. I mean, I 105 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: don't know if he's ever called one earlier than that, 106 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: But ultimately those keys. You know this morning, you put 107 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: up the thumbnail for the graphic for the show, and 108 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: you said, what did you title it? You said, weird series. 109 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: We look at GDI's all over it. 110 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think this is actually wrong. I think 111 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: that you shouldn't have used this one because really what 112 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 1: you should have done has actually saved yourselves an episode 113 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: this week and just combined this to make it a 114 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 1: survive a bonus episode, because I think ultimately that's what 115 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: this series is going to come down to, because we've 116 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: seen so many injuries from both teams impacting the game, 117 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: and I think last night you saw it from Jimmy Butler. 118 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: Now look again, it was a blowout, but I think 119 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler wasn't looking great out there. For me. PJ. 120 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: Tucker wasn't looking great as well. He hesitated on a 121 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: couple of shots there when he was out on the court. 122 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: Tyler Hero didn't even play in this game. Marcus Smart 123 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: the same. So I think we've seen a bit of 124 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: a theme. Robert Williams has been in and out of 125 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: the lineup a little bit, and I think ultimately this 126 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,799 Speaker 1: maybe just decided by which team is healthier in Game 127 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: six or seven, if it goes that far, because really 128 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: the heat, I mean, to put up a stinker like this, 129 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: there has to be something more to it, and I 130 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: truly believe that Jimmy Butler, he made no excuses, and 131 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: you don't expect that from the Heat or anybody, but 132 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: you could just tell from looking at him that he's 133 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: like he didn't have that same sort of pop he had. 134 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: What in those first two games forty and thirty something 135 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: like that, he had seventy points, and since then he 136 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: has just really struggled to have that same explosiveness. So 137 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: I think it's bothering him. Kyle Lowry as well, he's 138 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: come back. Didn't look great. No one really looked great 139 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: out there for the Heat last night. But I just 140 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: wonder if this is going to determine the series, if 141 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: it's like, hey, we just can't get our guys healthy 142 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: enough to get out there on the floor, because last 143 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: night was just it was this is bad. It's a 144 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: bad look for the NBA. I think when a team, 145 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: no one in there starting five could hit double figures, 146 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: they combined for I think it was eighteen points their starters. 147 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: So that's really I think what it's going to come 148 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: down to, who in Game five for both teams, sure 149 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: how healthy they are, and then it is this is 150 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: a monumental, pivotal game here for the Boston Celtics because 151 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: if they get a chance to close it out at home, 152 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: they could do that very well. But if the Heat 153 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: have got healthy players, maybe then Heat can do it themselves. 154 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: So we'll see. But anyway, there wasn't a great game, 155 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: and a little k I tried to little you know, 156 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: sexyed up a little bit have some laughs and brought it. Man. 157 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: I mean, it was weird to see a team have 158 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 2: one point tass after eight minutes of basketball, playoff basketball. 159 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: At that it was eighteen to one. Yeah, like, I'm 160 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 2: pretty far into this quarter at the. 161 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 5: Very least the first three games. The team that got 162 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 5: down early, because it's happened in the first three games even 163 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 5: before this one came back to make it a battle. 164 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 5: We saw in game four the that the Heat just 165 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 5: weren't willing to do that. 166 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: They weren't ready to do that. 167 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 5: Game three, we had the market Smart return, you know, 168 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 5: coming out of the locker room, he looked like he 169 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 5: was running really great in the hallway. Then when the 170 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 5: fans sun, he started limping again. But obviously he is 171 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 5: in and I think if if we're talking injuries, I 172 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 5: think Marcus Smart's injury is up there on the worry 173 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 5: level as well, because he showed up to the arena 174 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 5: only seventy five minutes before the game and he was 175 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 5: still a game time decision. But if you're showing up 176 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 5: that close to game time, you're not playing. And Joe 177 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 5: Varden of the Athletic saw him when he came into 178 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 5: the arena. He talked to a worker at the arena 179 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 5: and then apparently the worker turned a round and said, well, 180 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 5: he's not playing, so bad sign. I think that Marcus 181 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 5: Smart may not be playing for game five. Yeah, that 182 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 5: he have a bunch of injuries. Obviously, with Jimmy Butler 183 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 5: not looking great, Tyler heroes got to be back. He said, 184 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 5: he's playing in game five, but you know, Butler's gonna 185 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 5: play through it. And so a good sign for Robert 186 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 5: Williams coming back on the Celtics. But you know, we'll 187 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 5: have it. We'll have a better game five. 188 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: Play in game five. 189 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 2: Now, this is what's Yeah, what do you think of this? 190 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 2: When did you when did you? Did you watch the 191 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: whole thing? The end of the fourth No? 192 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 3: No, no, no, hockey was on. Oh yeah, of course hockey 193 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 3: was on. Had to check out the Stanley Cup playoffs. 194 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 3: So I don't know what the heck. I don't mind 195 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 3: a blowout. I really don't mind a blowout if it's 196 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 3: like a blowout that builds throughout the night, like a 197 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 3: ten point game at halftime becomes a fifteen point game 198 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 3: after the third quarter. Suddenly it's twenty five in the fourth. 199 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 3: Who cares? But these are over in like eight minutes. 200 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 3: It's really stupid. It's honestly just stupid. But whatever. Jimmy Butler, 201 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 3: the only heat started to even take double digit shots, 202 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 3: like bam, just what happened? What happened? Saw Robert Williams 203 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 3: is back and said I can't go inside anymore. That 204 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 3: doesn't make any sense to me. Miami went eight of 205 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 3: seventeen at the rim, six of twenty eight in the lane, 206 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 3: and two of nine from the mid range. They kind 207 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 3: of had to settle for the dink and dump zone 208 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 3: because between Horford and Robert Williams, there's just always somebody 209 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 3: at the rim and the heater kind of you know, 210 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 3: they're a physical and a tough team, but they're not 211 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 3: a very tall team, so they run into some problems 212 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 3: scoring inside. I feel like the Celtics didn't even play 213 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 3: well last night, so easily they shot eight of thirty 214 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 3: four from three the Celtics did. The big deal though, 215 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 3: was fourteen offensive rebounds for Boston. They had sixty rebounds total, 216 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 3: only thirty nine total on the night for Miami, so 217 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 3: you could tell that Boston was a little tougher last night. 218 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 3: Also a thirty eight to fourteen free throw advantage. Jason 219 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 3: Tatum took more free throws than the entire Heat team did. 220 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 3: Even Jimmy Butler wasn't getting to the line, So you 221 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 3: could just tell that the game plan, and this one 222 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 3: for the Celtics was we got to dominate inside, maybe 223 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 3: the threes will come. They didn't even really need it, 224 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, I don't feel like we know 225 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 3: anything about this series, Like Game five, who cares like 226 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 3: Game four? What happened in Game four feels like it 227 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 3: has zero correlation for any of the rest of the series. 228 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: And that's why I'm really pissed off of the Celtics 229 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: for the Game three egg that they laid there, because 230 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: they could be in now obviously what happens in games 231 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: thre he doesn't mean it's going to happen there in 232 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: Game four. But they just came out so flat in 233 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 1: Game three and got punked on their home court. Now again, 234 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: Williams wasn't playing a band was great, but they really 235 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: I think may have blown them. There's a chance to 236 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: really put their foot on this on the throat of 237 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: the Heat here. Now they have to win at minimum 238 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: one game in Miami if they are going to win 239 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: the series. So there's a there's a maximum of three 240 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: to go. Two of those, of course will be in 241 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: Miami if it goes the distance. But Boston might be 242 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: looking back if they lose this series. It's just thinking 243 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: how bad Game three was and how costly that might be. 244 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that happened to them a couple times 245 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 5: last series against the Bucks where they give away Game 246 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 5: three in Game five. So you know they've got I 247 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 5: think a lot of mental fortitude going forward, and we 248 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 5: know the Heat have that as well. I think what 249 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 5: the Heat have going for them is that Jimmy Butler 250 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 5: he's gonna play. There's no way he's sitting out, and 251 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 5: the Heat or the Celtics were dropping back and giving 252 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 5: him plenty of space in the midrage. They were protecting 253 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 5: the rim really well. Al Horford was a beast last night, 254 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 5: So the Celtics gotta be pretty pumped watching him have 255 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 5: four blocks. But Jimmy, if he's if he's on the floor, 256 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 5: he's gonna have shots. If they play pick and roll, 257 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 5: they're going to take away the rim. He's gonna have space. 258 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 5: He should be able to just knock down jumper after jumper. 259 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 5: And I'm gonna go through the guys that have some 260 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 5: hope for them because I don't know if you can 261 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 5: count on Bam, but if Tyler Hero is playing like 262 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 5: he says he's going to play, I think you can 263 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 5: count on him to give a lift, which Heat obviously 264 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 5: needed here in uh you know, they they need him 265 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 5: desperately just to come off the bench and hit some shots. 266 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 5: Like in Game one he came and saved the day 267 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 5: and they needed him to save the day, and this 268 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 5: one that didn't happen. So I think Butler and Hero 269 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 5: and then Oladipo is a great sign for him. He 270 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 5: was obviously the best Miami Heat player on the floor, 271 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 5: you know, dropping twenty three in this game. So the 272 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 5: injuries are piled up there for the Miami Heat. You know, Lowry, 273 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 5: who the heck knows what happens with him, But they 274 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 5: have three guards there that I'm giving a little bit 275 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 5: of hope for you got to have a little hope 276 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 5: for in this series. You just got to have some 277 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 5: hope that the Heat are going to score in those 278 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 5: three I think, give me a little bit of hope 279 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 5: that they'll they'll keep up with the Celtics in Game five. 280 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 2: It was nice to know that Jason Tatum's reputation is 281 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: still intact. Dot Com was worried. 282 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, well he went on for seven nough from three. 283 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 2: I thought he was pretty important here with that lead, 284 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 2: thirty one points overall, eight boards, five assists. Tray said, 285 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 2: like living at the free throw line too, I mean 286 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 2: right from the jump, he was like, we got there 287 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 2: was a sense of urgency of course, to the Celtics 288 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 2: on the boards, taking care of the ball. There were 289 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 2: Game three, well, he had twenty three turnovers. He only 290 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: had nine in Game four. Now a lot of this 291 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 2: turns into garbage time you can sort of throw it out. 292 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 2: But yeah, they did a much much better job holding 293 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 2: onto the ball. And then Derek White back to him, 294 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: you know, filling in for Marcus Smart. We said it before. 295 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: You can tell within the first thirty seconds what type 296 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 2: of Derek White game you're getting. And the guy scored 297 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: the games for seven points, finished with thirteen, eight and six, 298 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: so you know, filling in nicely there for Smart and 299 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: then Robert Williams. Yeah, what this Bam part is fascinating? 300 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 2: I mean, time lord great twelve and nine, you know, 301 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 2: just such a menace on the defensive end, he really is. 302 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 2: At times he feels everywhere. It's like whoa, he was 303 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 2: over there and suddenly he's blocking a shot or he's 304 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 2: challenging a shot which feels like ten feet away. The 305 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 2: guy just makes up so much, can cover so much 306 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 2: ground in a blink of an eye. But yeah, Bam, Wow, what, like, 307 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 2: what's his excuse? I know Tucker's banged up, Lowry's banged up, 308 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 2: Butler's banged up. Hell struson Vincent, I think we're on 309 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 2: the on the injury report before this game. I don't 310 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 2: remember BAM's name there. So why the complete no show here? 311 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 2: And it's probably not coincidental that it does seem when 312 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 2: taylrd is playing, you hear less and less of Bam. 313 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: What's going on there? 314 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: I mean it has to just be a mental thing, 315 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: I guess, because Robert Williams is great, but he's young 316 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: and he is a little bit foul prior at times, 317 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: and BAM should be dominating in that matchup, especially after 318 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: what we saw in Game three. He needs and again 319 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: I know Robert Williamson there, but BAM needs to be 320 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: way more aggressive and assertive and putting pressure on Williams 321 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: because he's been in and out of the lineup as well. 322 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: So his health to me is probably somewhere between eighty 323 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: and ninety percent. He's carrying something. I mean, most guys 324 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: are banged up to a point at this part of 325 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: the season, but when Jimmy is clearly down and PJ 326 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: was struggling like that, Bam, this should be his team. 327 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: I mean, he's been an All Star in the past. 328 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: He needs to at least be able to follow up 329 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: a performance that he had there in Game three. Because 330 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: Jason Tatum's follow up game after a loss, he's averaging 331 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: like thirty two a game. So he was right at 332 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: that sort of bounce back mark there last night. So 333 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: we'll see now because as Trey says that who knows 334 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: what's going to happen. He gave that he could win 335 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: by twenty five, the Celtics could win by twenty five, 336 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: and even then we still wouldn't know who's going to 337 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: close the series out in six games after that, but 338 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: I would be extremely disappointed if I was the heat 339 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: in band's performs last night. It sounded to me that 340 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: Tyler Hero wanted to play last night, but Spolstra and 341 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: the front office sort of said, no, we got to 342 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: make sure your health is okay here. So I would 343 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: say based on that that Hero is very likely to 344 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: play again in games set five. 345 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think he's obasically a like at this 346 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: point for a game five or are you going to 347 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: say that two. 348 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 3: K I would say player Duncan Robinson some more. I 349 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 3: don't know why we say it all the time. He 350 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 3: went four of eight from three. When he plays Bam 351 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 3: is better. Him and Bam have a real nice connection. 352 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 3: The space there gives Bam a little bit more room 353 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 3: to work on the inside. I think we're just seeing 354 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 3: like Bam is not yan A Santa Takombo because how 355 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 3: Horford is guarding Bam on most of this, but then 356 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 3: he's got to contend with William waiting for him at 357 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 3: the rim there. But there are also possessions where it's 358 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 3: like Derek White has switched on to Bam in the 359 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 3: post and White is ripping the ball from him going 360 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 3: the other way. So I think it was just as 361 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 3: much mindset stuff for Bam as it was scheme stuff. 362 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 3: But that's got to be a problem, So I don't know. 363 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 3: Williams was great though. Boston went twelve of eighteen at 364 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 3: the rim and he was just standing there the entire time. 365 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 3: The heat. The Celtics would break down, whatever the heat 366 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 3: we're trying to do on defense, whether it would be 367 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 3: playing man or a zone quite a bit, and Williams 368 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 3: is just standing right there for the alley up. You 369 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 3: can tell having a little bit of athleticism certainly matters 370 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 3: against a guy like PJ. Tucker. They just kept throwing 371 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 3: a lob to him. Nobody else can jump. 372 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, they're two and oh one Robert Williams place and 373 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 5: he Yeah, he does a great job of just being 374 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 5: around the him. 375 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: It's totally true. 376 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 5: So we just talked about his defense, but he's a 377 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 5: monster on the offensive end because he just makes the spacing, 378 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 5: you know, that more difficult, that much more difficult to guard. 379 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 5: And I think Al was Al was huge in this one. 380 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 5: If you just watched Al Horford, he had a you know, 381 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 5: a minuscule five points, but he was all over Bam, 382 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 5: all over him. He was the guy guarding him. He 383 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 5: guarded him on seventeen possessions and allowed zero points, and 384 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 5: he was every time he plays Bam. He yeah, kind 385 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 5: he kind of shuts him down. I think I think 386 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 5: Al's Al's the key there, and then Robert Williams needs 387 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 5: to be behind. So yeah, the cuth Lake's got to 388 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 5: be pretty pumped. I think if if they seem somewhat 389 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 5: healthy other than Marcus Smart, so they've got to be 390 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 5: pretty pretty positive going into game five. 391 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 2: So pivotal Game five on Wednesday night. I think we 392 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 2: should start a petition today for the lead to change 393 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 2: the game though, So let's say Thursday for two reasons. One, 394 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 2: these teams are so banged up, give him an extra 395 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 2: day's rest, all right. The other series the Western Conference 396 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 2: Finals again, we'll get to it. That could wrap up tonight. 397 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 2: That opens up a slot there on the Thursday night, 398 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 2: and then there's like three hours of Survivor on on 399 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: Wednesday night. Well there's a win win for everybody here. 400 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 2: Let us really focus on Survivor on Wednesday night. Move 401 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 2: this game to Thursday. Treca, you nodding away, there is 402 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 2: a no brainer. 403 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. I do think part of the reason that we 404 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 3: have so many blowouts is that we're on in every 405 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 3: other night sketch. That's I mean, that's I don't know, 406 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 3: it just seems strange that that's kind of the case 407 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 3: in the in the conference finals at this point, and 408 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 3: then obviously the uh everybody being in and out of 409 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 3: the lineup. You feel like it's kind of it has 410 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 3: to affect the players to find out like, oh, we're 411 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 3: missing one of our top six guys five minutes before 412 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 3: the tip off. So I don't know. I'm not too 413 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 3: worried about watching Survivor on Wednesday, though, because this game 414 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 3: will be over at half time, so they'll be able 415 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 3: to tap into true the final tribal console. No problem, 416 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 3: It'll be. 417 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 2: Over in twelve minutes tops. Yeah, the way it's been going, Yeah, 418 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 2: neither team can just establish any sort of like consistency 419 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 2: from game to game, which is the weird part here. 420 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: No, and I said in the last series, maybe those 421 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: should play it in the neutral venue game five, so 422 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: there's no home court, so they can one will go 423 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: up by thirty points and then the other team will 424 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: come back in the second half thing. 425 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 2: I want to know where all the like conspiracy theorists 426 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 2: are that always say the officials, you know, Scott Foster's 427 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 2: in to extend a series and all that, but why 428 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 2: aren't these officials giving us close games there? 429 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's you ain't good a good. 430 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 3: Product, Like you're saying somethings like the officials are throwing 431 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 3: you off the sense. 432 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 2: Skis oh you think so oh interesting? They should be 433 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 2: given us close skins. That's a lot easier than worrying 434 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 2: about a whole series. Focus on the game. 435 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, no, Look, it's tough. It is tough 436 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: when there's forty four minutes of garbage time in a game. 437 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's what I felt like in that 438 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: especially it started the second quarter there, It's like, okay, 439 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: come I make a push, get something gone here, and 440 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: there was nothing, and it was like, and you sue, 441 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,719 Speaker 1: people in their tweets are saying like, I wonder if 442 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: Spolster decides to pull these starters and there's like three 443 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 1: minutes to go in the first time. 444 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but what but because of the schedule and 445 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 2: stuff like that. Yeah, but I think everybody heard already. 446 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: Largely the same note every year like this Conference finals. 447 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, but maybe it shouldn't be. 448 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I guess, I guess there's something to consider, 449 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: but it's probably locked in for broadcasting and media reasons 450 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: like that, so they can't do much with it. 451 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 5: But yeah, maybe adding a day for the travel days 452 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 5: like the arrest makes makes somewhat sense. I mean, in 453 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 5: everybody said this is the best basketball we've ever seen 454 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 5: in the bubble because they didn't have to travel, and 455 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 5: the schedule is virtually the same as it is now. 456 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 5: So if you added a little bit of rest for 457 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 5: the travel days, I think that sort of makes sense, 458 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 5: you know, to let these guys recover because they didn't 459 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 5: have to do it in the bubble, and the bubble 460 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 5: was perfect, right, And I think you gim. 461 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: Even before that though, I'm pretty sure the schedule was 462 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: just you know, not on, not off for conference finals anyway, 463 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: I know for the finals that drags out. They drag 464 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: it out for nearly three weeks. Schedules. 465 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 5: Again, I'm not saying the schedule is different. Schedules has 466 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 5: been the same. But yeah, Jimmy, I think we're talking 467 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 5: about the bubble. I think he'll come back in Game five, 468 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 5: he just can't have Well, yeah, I agree, the three 469 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 5: stinkers in a row. 470 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: He's not going to miss it. But you just wonder 471 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: how much that because he misses what twenty odd games 472 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: a season, some of that time in. 473 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 3: The Hawk series. Yeah, miss time in the last series. Yeah, 474 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 3: miss time. Now I think it's a serious I mean, 475 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 3: it's obviously a real problem. You can see him limping 476 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 3: around out there. So he'll play, but will he be 477 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 3: able to control the games? Because that's been what Butler 478 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 3: has been the best at. For the Heat is like 479 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 3: when he's playing and when he's playing at his best, 480 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler is controlling basically everything on every side of 481 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 3: the court for Miami. So if he's not able to 482 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 3: have that kind of impact, somebody else has to. It 483 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 3: was Bam in Game three, Like I feel like we 484 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 3: didn't see nearly as much Bam playing point guard for 485 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 3: the Heat last night, and we saw that a ton 486 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 3: in Game three when Butler was sitting out when Lowry 487 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 3: was coming back. So somebody has to be able to 488 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 3: put their imprint on the game. It's usually Jimmy, but 489 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 3: if he's going to be harbled a little bit, somebody 490 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 3: else has to step up. 491 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 2: Any random notes from a Game four blowout that you 492 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 2: guys wrote down, You got anything? 493 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: Well, I saw a big Baby in the crowd there, yes, 494 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: but it was too quick though. He was scoffing some 495 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: popcorn in there. Couldn't quite couldn't quite get a good 496 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: look at it because there was the game recently where 497 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: it was in the wrong seats. Oh yes, right, so yeah, 498 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: so big Baby's back, former Beantown boy, former champ. I 499 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: think they they put that up in their two thousand 500 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: and eight We had that great photo with the Larry 501 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 1: O'Brian trophy. 502 00:21:58,720 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the George Cassando. 503 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: Ye, yeah, good, I'm looking for you. I guess we 504 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: had the Pistons there. Cunningham was the Killian Hayes, Twaine 505 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: Casey was there, and there was one other. 506 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 3: Do you know? 507 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: The reason is it just to like get the vibes 508 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 2: of a conference finals, high stakes blowout performance. Exactly, what's 509 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 2: gonna feel like? We're down twenty. 510 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: Five finals, work hard and you can get blown out 511 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: like that. 512 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 2: It's a nice touch there. Yeah, you see trying to 513 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 2: get the young guys there. Okay, anything else, guys on 514 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: this side of the table, any hockey notes health throw 515 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 2: the minute. 516 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 3: We got a great second period between the Saint Louis 517 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 3: Blues and Colorado. The Avs scored four goals in five minutes, 518 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 3: and then the Blues scored two powerful play goals in 519 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 3: three minutes. Jesus, it's a lot of goals, A lot 520 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 3: of goals, A lot of goals in the second period. 521 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 3: Not so much in the Florida Panthers versus Tampa Bay Lightnings. 522 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 2: Yes, it's over it. 523 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 3: Andre vast left. 524 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 2: Ski a brick wall. 525 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 3: This guy's the difference right now. Jonathan quick Esque, he's 526 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 3: taken over here. 527 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 2: That can win your cup. 528 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 3: That kid has already won them two cups. 529 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 2: That's true. 530 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 3: They're looking like a three pet here. That would be 531 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 3: the weirdest three peat in sports. 532 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 2: Like you, I don't know. It feels like you could 533 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 2: go out onto the street and ask people like, Hey, 534 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: who's the who's won the last two Cups? 535 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 3: I don't know, people. 536 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 2: I don't think that many are. 537 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 5: And that was a Florida Tampa rivalry series. Nobody, Yeah, 538 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 5: it was a number one seed. Florida led the league 539 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 5: and goals. 540 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 3: Shut them down, wasn't it. 541 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 2: And they score the most goals ever in a season 542 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 2: Florida Panthers, they scored a ton, Yeah, I think they did. 543 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 2: Actually any other any other poops notes anything? Hey, what 544 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 2: do you think about the officiating? Like, I know, I 545 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 2: see some people are pissed off by that. Yeah, I 546 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 2: don't know. 547 00:23:58,600 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: You don't know. 548 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 3: They were mad at the officiating and a thirty. 549 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 2: They're mad at the idea that the Celtics are the 550 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 2: last two games have taken I don't know. I have 551 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 2: in front of me, like forty more free throws. 552 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think you can make an argument 553 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 3: for the Heat should have taken more free throws last night. Sure, 554 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 3: maybe game maybe Game three? Yeah, that Game three was 555 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 3: a strange game with blowout turning into another blowout the 556 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 3: other way and up with a close game. But I mean, literally, 557 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 3: how can you say anything about the officials thirty point game? 558 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 5: It's just looking at the final box score and saying, wait, 559 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 5: well that team has more than the other team. That's 560 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 5: all it is. It's an observation on the box score. 561 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 5: It's not an observation on the game. It's pretty late. 562 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 5: What else is it? It's it's unfortunate. Really, who wants 563 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 5: to wow? I can look at a box score too, 564 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 5: and see that one team had more more free throws 565 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 5: than the other. Has nothing to do with the actual 566 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 5: basketball game, because one team. 567 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 2: Laughing because I just saw you looking at a box score, 568 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 2: not about the fouls. 569 00:24:58,760 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 5: Here's a box score. 570 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 2: How many fell did they have? What was the difference 571 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 2: in the end, you got it right there. How many 572 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 2: the Celtics shoot. 573 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 5: Throw thirty eight versus fourteen twenty four, So. 574 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 2: It's it's a drastic difference. 575 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 3: But yeah, was more aggressive. Yeah, Jimmy Butler was hobbled. 576 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 3: That's how the Heat take a lot of free That's true. 577 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 3: That guy lives at the line. He took eighteen in 578 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 3: Game one. He's taken ten cents. 579 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 5: They don't have other guys that that gets to the 580 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 5: free throw line. And and even their you know, the 581 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 5: guy who creates other than Jimmy Butler wasn't in the game. 582 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 5: And Tyler Hero, so that was that was a big 583 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 5: factor obviously last night, the Tyler Hero absence, big, big, big, 584 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 5: And yeah, you could see from the beginning of the 585 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 5: game Derek White, who a guy who isn't necessarily aggressive, 586 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 5: had his best game to me of the postseason, but 587 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 5: obviously of this series. He had his first three of 588 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 5: the series, So that's a to me, that's a bit 589 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,959 Speaker 5: of a worry for the Celtics going forward. Marcus Smart's 590 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 5: not there, Derek White, can you count on this game 591 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 5: in and game out? I think this was sort of 592 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 5: a special game for Derek White. He looked like a 593 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 5: different Yeah, it looked like a different guy. 594 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,719 Speaker 3: I thought Derek White had like this awesome game too. 595 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 3: But all he did was have an awesome first quarter. Yeah, 596 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 3: it was really just the first quarter in this game. 597 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 3: He scored ten points, went four of eight from the field, 598 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 3: had an assist, a couple of steals. He didn't make 599 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 3: a shot after the first quarter. That's how dumb this game. 600 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 3: He was like the star of the game, and I 601 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 3: was like, man, what an awesome game for Derek White 602 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 3: to do this right after his son was born, and 603 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 3: he shot like four firm. 604 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 2: Game four was one quarter though. 605 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 3: That was one quarter. One last note for his skeets. 606 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 3: This one comes from stat Muse, who points out that 607 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 3: Max Streus went for zero, zero, zero, zero and zero 608 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 3: in fifteen plus minutes played, first time that that's happened 609 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 3: in the last three playoffs. Went for a Tony Snell 610 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 3: last night. 611 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, he saw you retweet it with a mins Streus 612 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 2: nailed it. How about this one? Max Grizz said, a 613 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 2: gross say it with a funny accent. 614 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 3: You tweet that. 615 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 2: I saved them on the podcast? 616 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: What about you? 617 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 3: Can you still do like boys tweets? 618 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: You know? Oh? 619 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 4: You me? 620 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 3: Oh that sounds good Max. 621 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 5: It's interesting getting back to the Derek Wi baby bump. 622 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 5: Yeah quiet thirteen eight and six. He really didn't score 623 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 5: after the first game, after the first quarter, but he 624 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 5: was a thread out there and that's what they need 625 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 5: from him. So can he keep that up going forward? 626 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 5: I think the interesting part was that he named his 627 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 5: baby the same name as Robert Williams named his baby 628 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 5: Hendricks good name teammates, same baby name. He just said, 629 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 5: I like the name. 630 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: Wow. Is that legal? You do that? 631 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. It seems like, how do you feel 632 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 2: bad I suddenly had a girl. I'm like, I love 633 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 2: the name Zoe. I'm gonna take it tests that's all. 634 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 2: He's like, Yeah. I mean it's like, on one hand, 635 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 2: it's like, that's great because you think it's a good 636 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 2: name too, and that's why we named our child. But 637 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 2: then it's on the other hand, it's like, well, that's 638 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 2: just making things confusing. Oh, it's Zowa's birthday. Hey, it's 639 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 2: Zoway's birthday coming up. And you got to be like, 640 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 2: well which one. 641 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 5: Oh well we did that to our friends canon March. 642 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 5: They want Noah, We said no way, that's pregnant earlier. 643 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 2: I agree with that. I think that's the right take 644 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 2: on this. 645 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: But you can spell it differently though, so you know, 646 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: I mean you could. I I wouldn't ask permission if 647 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: I could name my own child. 648 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 2: If so, Trey, you have no problem. If Trey's gonna 649 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 2: have a third child, he's gonna have a boy. And 650 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 2: he's like, I'm going to Oscar. I'm not really gonna 651 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 2: just stump in there and say I feel a certain 652 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 2: way about it. No, I'm just curious. 653 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: I mean, because it's like, again, when it's my own child, 654 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: the people who made the decision for our child were 655 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 1: me and my wife, And I didn't say to anybody 656 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: when if we go with a Sebastian Oscar, what about? 657 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,479 Speaker 2: But come on, when you're coming up with names, you're 658 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 2: definitely doing the part. We're like, I know, I know 659 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 2: a Frank. I hate Franks. I can't We're not going 660 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: for you know what I mean, Like, there's that honestly, no, 661 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 2: oh wow, well you I can't Yeah, I mean, I'm 662 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 2: gonna stop there. We'll just get into an argument. 663 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: But when when when we were having a child, I 664 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: wasn't like, we should consult to see who's okay with 665 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: his name? We want to, but people do. 666 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 3: As what I'm saying happened to my family for sure. 667 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 3: My sister is McKenzie and my like my uncle in 668 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 3: law a little bit extended. They were having a little 669 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 3: baby girl, and they're like, would you be okay if 670 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 3: we named our kid Mackenzie, our baby Mackenzie. Were like, yeah, 671 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 3: that's cool. You know, you live a little bit of ways. 672 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 3: We're here in Illinois. It'd be nice to have two 673 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 3: McKenzie's in the family. They ended up moving to the 674 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 3: same town that we lived in. Oh big Kenzie, little Kenzie. 675 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 2: That's great. 676 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, But but they consulted, they consulted, they asked. 677 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 3: We said, go for it. We'll never have to deal 678 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 3: with this being a problem ever. And then we lived 679 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 3: in the same city of you know, five thousand people 680 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 3: for five years at a time and it was not 681 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 3: a problem at all. Here's what I think happened is 682 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 3: that Derek White and his partner must have found out 683 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 3: they were having a boy before he was traded to 684 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 3: the Celtics. They're like, we're naming this kid Hendrix, no 685 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 3: matter what. Then they got traded to the Celtics. There 686 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 3: was already a Hendrix there. Oh we got two Hendrix's right, 687 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 3: and the guitars. I mean, if you went deuce, you 688 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 3: should I think I would have shut that down. 689 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 2: I think so too. That's the funny part. It depends 690 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 2: on the name a little bit. You know. If it's 691 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 2: like a really unique name that you don't hear all 692 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 2: that often, then maybe you're like, I don't know, I 693 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 2: just had one of those key. Of course you're not 694 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 2: going to consult that like seven. 695 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't want those other people calling the child seven. 696 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: But he didn't have one yet as well, so you 697 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,239 Speaker 1: can't reserve it all right. 698 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 5: There should be a different name for every baby born 699 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 5: in the US. How many babies are born in the US. 700 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 5: There should be whatever it is, ten million babies, ten 701 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 5: million different names. 702 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: That's it. 703 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 2: Just spell it different. 704 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: First. 705 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 3: You gotta have a baby January first, if you. 706 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 2: Want to choose. 707 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, Harley. 708 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 2: That's a great idea. Okay, let's take our first break. 709 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 2: I think it's a good time to do that. When 710 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 2: we come back, we'll talk about the Wolves getting their guy, 711 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 2: and I got some weird trivia for you guys, and 712 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 2: Lea's got tweet the night. So we'll be right back, 713 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 2: all right, back here in the Classic Factory. If you're 714 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 2: joining us in the stream team right now, live on YouTube, 715 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 2: we're having some issues. I think it's YouTube. Just always 716 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 2: blame YouTube. I guess we were lagging. We were a 717 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 2: little choppy there. 718 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: JD. 719 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 2: You did a quick reboot or something during the ad. 720 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: Break, Yeah, I rebooted. 721 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna blame us on this. 722 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 5: It's not I don't think it was YouTube. 723 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: I think it was us this time. 724 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 2: Well not me, well not me. I mean it's a thing. Yeah, 725 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 2: well I yeah, would you kick by accident? 726 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: Well I kicked the sign here a lot all the time, 727 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: but triggered it. 728 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 3: It was all your skits and bits. 729 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: Too many photos this morning. 730 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 2: Yeah all right, so uh, maybe if you are in 731 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 2: the stream team it's still not working, maybe hit a 732 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 2: little refresh, because I think we are back and hopefully 733 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 2: we are live here got some news a bit of 734 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 2: a follow up to something we were talking about yesterday, 735 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 2: because it's official now. According to the Athletic a Fine website, 736 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 2: the Minnesota Timberwolves have agreed to a five year, forty 737 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 2: million dollar contract with Denver Nuggets president Tim Connolly to 738 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 2: lead basketball operations. He will also have an ownership stake 739 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 2: as part of his new contract. Tim Connolly getting paid. 740 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 2: Your task to uh to go to Minnesota. But yeah, 741 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 2: what do you think. 742 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 5: As an ownership kicker? Right, like he can. It can 743 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 5: be triggered depending on some achievements or whatever. But they've 744 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 5: done that before. The late Flip Saunders had a piece 745 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 5: of the ownership. So the Minnesota Timberwolves, Yeah, ready to 746 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 5: pay someone Tim Connolly eight mil per year. Here, that's 747 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 5: up in the into the rc Buford Bob Meyers sort 748 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,719 Speaker 5: of realm, not quite into the pat Riley realm. But 749 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 5: that's a that's a huge, huge level for Tim Connolly. 750 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 2: And salary, I believe exactly. 751 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 5: Yeah there and so yeah, Alex Rodriguez, Mark Lauria, they 752 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 5: come in and say, hey, we want to get somebody 753 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 5: that has a big name, a track record, and Tim 754 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 5: Connolly has that, and it's interesting that Alex Rodriguez Mark 755 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 5: Lawyer are still the minority owners in the transition here 756 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 5: because Glenn Taylor is still the majority owner, but will 757 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 5: overtake it at some point. Tim Connolly met with Yeah 758 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 5: A Rod and Mark Luriy. They also met with Glenn 759 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 5: Taylor for a very long time. They got a feel 760 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 5: for him at his house. They got to feel for 761 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 5: the family and each other there. So they have to 762 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 5: meet everybody. But they're willing to pay up, pony up 763 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 5: for a name that is going to take control of 764 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 5: the front office. But they're not cunning costs elsewhere. Satching Gupta, 765 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 5: who is running the front office, likely still going to 766 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 5: be there. They're adding to the front office staff. So 767 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 5: great sign from the Minnesota Timberwolves. Is a team that 768 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 5: you wouldn't necessarily think of as a team that's willing 769 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 5: to pony up for our front office member to lead 770 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 5: in this way. At eight million plus an ownership possibility, 771 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 5: it's a huge dollar figure. So congrats to Tim Connolly 772 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 5: and his family. 773 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 2: This is a nice looking combo here in Minnesota. When 774 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 2: you think of a creative coach and Chris Finch, you've 775 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 2: got a creative German. Kindly who definitely has a knack 776 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 2: for finding talent in the draft and putting together a roster. 777 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 2: You like what's going on here in Minnesota. 778 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think if you put up this 779 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: sort of money and you make these aggressive moves, it 780 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: certainly sends a message like we are really going to 781 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,720 Speaker 1: invest in the team, And I think that's what fans 782 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: want to see. They don't want to see your front 783 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: office or in an ownership that sort of chips out 784 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: and always trying to cut corners. Instead, they're saying, proven 785 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: track record, we want this guy. We're going to give 786 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: him a big fat contract because we believe in him. 787 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: The ownership stake is fascinating because if other gms starts 788 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: seeing that as a potential bonus in your contract, everyone's 789 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: going to start asking for that when they go for 790 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 1: their jobs and things like that. So that's huge. But yeah, 791 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: you have to feel that this was a pretty good 792 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: season overall here for the Minnesota Timbles. Maybe didn't end 793 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: quite the way they would have liked it, But I 794 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 1: think Karl Anthony Towns really did grow most of this season. 795 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards, I think he's a virtual lock for the 796 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: All Star Game in the next year or two based 797 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: on his growth. D'Angelo Russell. Yeah, there's still some up 798 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: and down there, but overall this was a Chris Finch 799 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: has proved to be a pretty good coach. So I 800 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: think they are moving in the right direction here Minnesota 801 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: and now Tim Connelly, if he can come in and 802 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: have that same sort of impact that he had in Denver, 803 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: then you can see in the next three or four years. 804 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: He things Minnesota could go from a fringe playoff team 805 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,240 Speaker 1: to a legit contender. 806 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 3: Try anything, Dad, I just think this is awesome by 807 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 3: the Timberwolves to have a need and to say here's 808 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 3: what we're going to do. We're looking for a top 809 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 3: five guy. I don't know that I necessarily knew that 810 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 3: Tim Connolly was a top five GM. Nonetheless, they paid 811 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 3: a time for it through inequity, likely saying that sends 812 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 3: a message to every other player and agent out there. 813 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 3: We're a team that we want to be taken seriously. 814 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 3: Now we're on the upswing with our talent, and then 815 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 3: obviously things are changing with regards to the ownership in 816 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 3: the front office as well. So I mean to me 817 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 3: like this kind of puts the Nuggets where the Timberwolves 818 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 3: are You're like, you're not paying for your GM the 819 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,760 Speaker 3: guy who built your team again. You know, that's exactly 820 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 3: what happened with Miss Saiyu Jerry back in the day. 821 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 3: He built that super fast Nuggets team. I think they 822 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 3: had like a sixty win season at some point, and 823 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 3: then he was gone to the raptor same thing here. 824 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 3: This is the best Nuggets team in quite some time 825 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 3: since probably Carmelo Anthony was around. And now they have 826 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,760 Speaker 3: a new voice in charge who's gonna have to figure 827 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 3: some things out. They'll and hit the ground running. They 828 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 3: say it's gonna be Calvin Booth kind of stepping up 829 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 3: from the number two spot. But between Yokic getting a 830 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 3: super Max extension, Bryn Forbes, Campazo and Rivers are all 831 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,919 Speaker 3: free agents, Barton Green and Green have one year left 832 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 3: on their deals. They've got their core there in Porter, 833 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 3: Murray and Jokic, but they got to figure out everything 834 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 3: else around it, and they got to do it basically 835 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 3: right away. So that's one thing I'll be watching with 836 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 3: regards to the Nuggets is what happens with the Joki extension. 837 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 3: Does he sign it right away? Does he say I'll 838 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 3: play out this season. We can talk about it afterwards. 839 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 3: That's a that's on my mind for sure. 840 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 2: Right now, especially as a Bulls fan hoping there GM 841 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 2: trying to get jok to Chicago. 842 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 3: N Where was he from? 843 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy, there's a connection there coming interesting. Any 844 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 2: other thoughts on front office moves there? We talked about 845 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,479 Speaker 2: it a lot yesterday's show. It just became official there 846 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 2: and I encourage you to go to the Athletic dot 847 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 2: com slash No Dunks, get yourself a subscription and read 848 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 2: a great report from who was it? Kreshinsky and Shasharanya 849 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 2: breaking this down all of the details about Connolly going 850 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 2: to Minnesota. All right, I didn't know this was a thing, 851 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 2: or I think I did, but I always forget about it. Yesterday, 852 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 2: Celtics guard Marcus Smart was named the winner of the 853 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one twenty two NBA Hustle Award. He becomes 854 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 2: the first two time winner of the Hustle Award, which 855 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 2: rewards players that do the little things that don't often 856 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 2: show up in the traditional box score. Sounds like Al 857 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:40,280 Speaker 2: Horford here tests Hustle stats include deflections, loose balls, recovered, 858 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 2: charges drawn, screen assists, contested shots, and box outs, true 859 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 2: sicko shit bouts. Okay, yeah, so congrats to Marcus Smart. 860 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 2: I asked you guys yesterday, jumped in slack and said, hey, 861 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 2: whatever you do, don't read the NBA dot Com press 862 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 2: release about Smart winning the Hustle Award because I want 863 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 2: to do some trivia on the three of you guys. 864 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know. 865 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 2: You guys might knock this out of the park. 866 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 5: There are four to ask us if Trey Kirby boxed 867 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 5: out guys, No, no, no, no. 868 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,959 Speaker 2: There are four other winners tasks of the NBA Hustle Award. Okay, 869 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,320 Speaker 2: Smart's done it twice. It's all been around six years. 870 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 2: Can you name them? And I'll give you some hints. 871 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 2: But I mean I have a go at it. 872 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:23,439 Speaker 1: Well. 873 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 2: I mean Conn Lowry must be No, no, that's a 874 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 2: good guess. You think Lowry maybe finished top three in 875 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:30,320 Speaker 2: the Hustle Awards. 876 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. 877 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 3: Go Bear, no oh, come on screen, says no Bear. 878 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:35,760 Speaker 1: No Bear had tested shots. 879 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 5: He'd think he'd be up there too. 880 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: Are we going or small? 881 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 2: We got a bit of both. We got a bit 882 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 2: of both. The first guy was in the news recently. 883 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 2: I mean he was all over the news. He was 884 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 2: literally on every news program. When was the first Hustle 885 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 2: Award winner back in two thousand and sixteen, seventeen. 886 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,439 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so who's a guy in the same sort 887 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: of mode like that? 888 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 2: Well, well, p J Taka uh no, Tucker, we actually 889 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,879 Speaker 2: have a bunch of bigs now, so Beverly was really 890 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 2: the only you know, Guard. 891 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 1: Gibson. 892 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 2: No, no, that's a really good guest. Okay, here we go, 893 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,320 Speaker 2: here we go. Two of these guys played for the Raptors. 894 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,280 Speaker 1: Did they win it on the Raptors? 895 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 2: I don't believe they did. Know they did not that 896 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 2: that's great, that's great, Marcus. 897 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 3: No, no said, we're off the off. 898 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,280 Speaker 2: The one guy played for the Bulls and the Raptors 899 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 2: and he won it on Chicago James Johnson, and it 900 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 2: happened last year, so nobody remembers it happened last year. 901 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 3: The Bulls had a hustler. 902 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 2: Out there, did you sure? 903 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 3: Did Ryan Archie Diakano the boot he's on the Raptors. 904 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: He's on the Raptors now. 905 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 2: Thomas direct that this guy was once on a graphic 906 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 2: that took the Internet by store. Yeah, he had a 907 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 2: lot of the elections. Daddy has won won it last year. Okay, 908 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,479 Speaker 2: you got two more bigs now, one of them played 909 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 2: for the Raptors but didn't win it with the Raps. No, 910 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 2: but he's this guy was a very popular Raptors player 911 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 2: for sure. 912 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:13,240 Speaker 5: Meir Johnson. 913 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 2: There you go, Meir Johnson. 914 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: Good one. 915 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 2: He won the second one and then final one twenty 916 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 2: nineteen twenty. He's no longer on the team he won 917 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 2: it with. He's changed conferences. He's a hustle guy. He's 918 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 2: a sixth man guy. But he's a bigot. 919 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 5: You're gonna say he's no longer with. 920 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: Us, No, no, no, he's still still man. 921 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's the interesting part. He's a big that's 922 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 2: always in the six he's one six man I. 923 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: Think of the year. 924 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 2: Actually, excuse me, I think so sort of bike. That's 925 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 2: a little surprised that he won this. He went box out, 926 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 2: he's drops. Actually, this guy I think is notoriously bad 927 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:52,720 Speaker 2: at boxer. 928 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,240 Speaker 3: Go Thompson. 929 00:40:55,080 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 2: But isn't that the up on him? Like he's not 930 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,720 Speaker 2: the greatest, like getting the body on bigs get Yeah. Anyway, 931 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 2: so that in order started with Beverly, Amir Johnson, Marcus Smart, 932 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 2: Mantres Harald Saudius younger than Marcus Smart going for the 933 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 2: second second win here. 934 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: Cleaning up this year the awards. 935 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 2: That's right. 936 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, when you said he'd won it twice, I thought 937 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 3: you were going to say that he won it this 938 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 3: year and last year. And the award has been around. 939 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: For two years. 940 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually has a long history. We did, uh, 941 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 2: we did bring up the Hustle Award last year. We 942 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,359 Speaker 2: talked about the statius young winning on one of these. 943 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 1: So is it a purely statistical like the points of accumulate. 944 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 2: I mean it's through NBA dot com because of the 945 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 2: like the Hustle you know, yeah, yeah, scores and stuff 946 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 2: that they track and everything. But I don't know if 947 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 2: they have like an algorithm for it or somebody votes 948 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 2: on it. Just maybe Schumann just decided. Yeah, I don't know. 949 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: It's all the all the you know, categories lined up. 950 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,280 Speaker 2: He's got his Excel sheet. Yeah, yeah, crunches the numbers. 951 00:41:58,560 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 2: Do you guys want to try and name the other 952 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 2: finishers for this year? 953 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 1: Many who else hustled? 954 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 2: There's four other names that other hustled hard. Two are 955 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 2: now two are on the box. I'll give you that 956 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 2: just make this little quick Carter, No, Bobby, Bobby p 957 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 2: And then this guy also hustles. There he's second, he 958 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 2: finished second. Okay. Then you got a Nets player, and 959 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 2: you got a Pistons player Bruce Brown, nice, okay, nice. 960 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 2: And then you got a big Isaiah Stewart nice box. 961 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, there it is. 962 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,399 Speaker 2: And they said we couldn't give you five minutes, maybe 963 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 2: ten minutes. I don't know if I wouldn't keeping track. 964 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,319 Speaker 2: Are we lagging still on the hustle Award? Okay, great stuff, guys. 965 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit about Western Conference game for tonight. 966 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 2: What are you watching for in Game four between the 967 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,840 Speaker 2: Warriors and Mavericks gentleman sweep on the horizon or is 968 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 2: this street suite? 969 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 3: Shout out to Lee Ellis and the Southern lawyer. I 970 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 3: do declare the Dallas Mavericks are at the last chance salute. 971 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 3: I haven't heard about the last chance saloon in a while. 972 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 3: But the MAVs have got to be ready to shoot 973 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 3: some some three pointers tonight. They gotta make them. They're 974 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 3: thirty three percent on the series, Game one eleven for 975 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 3: forty eight, Game two twenty one for forty five, but 976 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 3: fifteen of those came in the first half game three, 977 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 3: thirteen to forty five. So basically they've shot the ball 978 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 3: well for one half and they've got to be kicking 979 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 3: themselves for losing that game too, Like this could be 980 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 3: this could be a crucial Game four tonight because you 981 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 3: had a great performance from Don Chic, you had a 982 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 3: great performance from Brunson, You actually made some threes. That 983 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,879 Speaker 3: was the one to steal on the road for sure. 984 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,799 Speaker 3: But they got to make some tonight. If they hit 985 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 3: twenty plus threes, they got a chance. As for the Warriors, 986 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 3: they've just got to bring the effort. So that's what 987 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,359 Speaker 3: I'm watching for. They stunk it up in Game five 988 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 3: versus Memphis with a chance to eliminate them on the road, 989 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 3: lost by forty easily their worst effort of the playoffs. 990 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 3: But right now the Warriors are so close to the 991 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 3: finals that they can smell it. So I assume they'll 992 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 3: at least give a full effort tonight. And it's just 993 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 3: on the MAVs to play their best game to try 994 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 3: and survive in this one. 995 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 2: And the Warriors could have swept the Nuggets in the 996 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,840 Speaker 2: first round two but lost Game four in Denver. You 997 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 2: can try a big game, but then they went back 998 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 2: to the Bay and took care of business in five. 999 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,240 Speaker 2: Does that happen again here in the files? 1000 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 1: I don't think so. 1001 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 5: I know people ye look at the Memphis blowout, look 1002 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 5: at that nugget situation and say, well, the Warriors are 1003 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,320 Speaker 5: going to do that again. I don't think so. I 1004 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 5: think they're going to get this done. I think Lucas 1005 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 5: had two forty point performances in three games. You're going 1006 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 5: to ask them to do it again. That's a lot. 1007 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,240 Speaker 5: And I feel like, yeah, the MAVs are extremely deflated. 1008 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 5: That game two really hurt. They should have won that game. 1009 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 5: They had seven more threes than the Warriors of forty 1010 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 5: thirty and twenty point game from three of their guys. 1011 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 5: And I think the Warriors they won't lay an egg 1012 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 5: like they did against the Grizzlies'. They're ready for the 1013 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 5: finals here. I think it's over. 1014 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 2: Get a lot of rest if you take care of 1015 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,359 Speaker 2: business tonight. Yeah, you're the Warriors, right, you can look 1016 00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 2: at that a good we can plus, yeah, that other 1017 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,439 Speaker 2: one goes seven. Even if it doesn't, I guess because 1018 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 2: they already scheduled the finals. 1019 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: But what do you think? 1020 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 2: What happens to me. Well, I believe in your mavericks. 1021 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 1: I honestly, I was more deflated with jason Kids comments 1022 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 1: after Game three where he was like, we're done, We're 1023 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 1: done a little bit. I mean it sounded like that. 1024 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: I think, look, if you are the MAVs, though, you 1025 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 1: may as well just keep firing away tonight. Get up 1026 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 1: eighty five three pointers. You know, you may as well, 1027 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,439 Speaker 1: because they haven't really shown no, well they haven't really 1028 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 1: shown that they're going to have try anything else. So 1029 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 1: I guess if you can get up eighty five and 1030 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 1: you can make twenty of them, then that's not too bad. 1031 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 1: Your batons. You know, you get. 1032 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 2: That good twenty three five if you make it twenty three, 1033 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 2: So I mean, you know, but but again you have 1034 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 2: none of you're shooting any five. 1035 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,360 Speaker 1: But the thing is with with Kleeber and h and 1036 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 1: Finny Smith and Bluck. I mean, like I said, I 1037 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,399 Speaker 1: was just disappointing game three that they were like, we're 1038 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 1: not just going to not shoot them. Well, so if 1039 00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 1: you're not make them and you're not shooting them, you're 1040 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,320 Speaker 1: really not putting any pressure on the Warriors, And have 1041 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 1: felt to me more like the Warriors are like, like 1042 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 1: you're saying, they were like, Hey, let's get home and 1043 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 1: not even have to worry about another game. Let's get 1044 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 1: home rest because they'll be at home no matter who 1045 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,359 Speaker 1: they face, who comes out of the East, So they'll 1046 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,759 Speaker 1: have a tremendous advantage because that series could go six 1047 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 1: games and then one of those teams have to fly 1048 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 1: across the country to face the rested and ready worries. 1049 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited to see how the maps, if they've 1050 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 2: done anything to figure out the Warrior's own defense, like 1051 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 2: how they're gonna attack it, Like they didn't have much 1052 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 2: of a game plan. I thought they're in game three 1053 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 2: really for much of the series, they've struggled, and I 1054 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 2: know that they're switching a lot of the defense, so 1055 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 2: they're seeing different looks. It's man, then it's box line, 1056 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,319 Speaker 2: and then it's own stuff like that. But yeah, they're 1057 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 2: gonna they're gonna have to do better against his own 1058 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 2: defense because the Warriors are gonna try that again. Of 1059 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 2: course at times tonight, like why wouldn't Kurr, you know, 1060 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,320 Speaker 2: implement that again. See if I don't know what the 1061 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 2: play is because we talked about I don't really know 1062 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 2: who you throw in the middle of the zone. Could 1063 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 2: it be Luca ga Is brunts and more sort of 1064 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 2: on the ball and throw him in the middle and 1065 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,799 Speaker 2: see what happens. Get creative, your kid. You already tried 1066 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 2: the vendor bender didn't work. Are they gonna sit down tonight? No, No, 1067 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 2: they won't do that. We'll theo Pinson be wearing. I 1068 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 2: think them. I think the Warriors are scheduled to wear 1069 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 2: maybe I don't know, maybe the black jerseys tonight? Will 1070 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 2: he be wearing black tonight? Can Penson keep his streak 1071 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:16,960 Speaker 2: going on that? 1072 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 1: Wow? 1073 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 3: They got they got blue Warriors and Blues. 1074 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 2: I think the next game is black then okay, we'll see. Wow. 1075 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 2: Nobody's very excited for this one too. I think the 1076 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,919 Speaker 2: mask I think the masking. Actually, I think we're getting 1077 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:30,880 Speaker 2: a gentleman sleep. I really do. 1078 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 1: I hope you're right. 1079 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, And part of that is maybe the Warriors notoriously like, oh, 1080 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,879 Speaker 2: they'll be sloppy with the ball and sort of take 1081 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,319 Speaker 2: their foot off the gas a little bit, like it's 1082 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:40,920 Speaker 2: not that far fetch. We've seen them do it. 1083 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 1: So maybe we'll see the first ever team come back 1084 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 1: from three. 1085 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 2: It would be great. I don't believe that's happening. 1086 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 1: Neither do Why, but I mean, anytime you would down 1087 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 1: three oh, no, one would think it was gonna happen 1088 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 1: with that. You know, we're down three oh, but I 1089 00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 1: think they're gonna turn it around, you know, so it's 1090 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:00,239 Speaker 1: gonna come out. I don't know. 1091 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 3: Maybe it's just one. 1092 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 2: Hey, you can put some coin on that right now, 1093 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,480 Speaker 2: it's like plus I don't know, plus sixty six hundred 1094 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 2: or so. 1095 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 1: Well, I'm up. I'm up about five hundred bucks this 1096 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 1: season because I was going to put some on the bux. 1097 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:12,880 Speaker 1: I was gonna put some on the suns, and I didn't, 1098 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,440 Speaker 1: So I'm up. So I've got something to burn there, 1099 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 1: so good. Exactly, I didn't. I didn't put those beds down, 1100 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:22,359 Speaker 1: So I'm up five hundred bucks. 1101 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:23,359 Speaker 2: Save it for summer league. 1102 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,799 Speaker 1: Okay, oh yeah, gambling at summer league. 1103 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,280 Speaker 2: No, no, no, not on summer league games. 1104 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,360 Speaker 1: Oh oh okay, yeah, okay. 1105 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, any other thoughts on tonight's game four. 1106 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 2: Let's take a final break. When we come back. Lee's 1107 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 2: got something special, something something unique, something different. 1108 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 1: But we're going to have some fun with it. Anyway. 1109 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 2: We'll find out back in a second. All right, back 1110 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,279 Speaker 2: here in the Classic Factory. I do think we're getting 1111 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,360 Speaker 2: all NBA teams tonight before Game four of the Western 1112 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 2: Conference Finals, because the TNT has been rolling out all 1113 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 2: these awards and if this is the last Schema season 1114 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,440 Speaker 2: and then they're done, Chuck's on vacation for four months, 1115 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 2: that's right. So we'll have something tomorrow. I'll MBA teams. 1116 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:11,320 Speaker 1: Maybe Steph gets snubbed, Luca and jar Moran at the 1117 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:11,799 Speaker 1: first team. 1118 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,799 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, fans out ready for the game? Yeah, big 1119 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 2: fifty point game from Zacher. Okay, let's get to tweeted 1120 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:20,319 Speaker 2: the night. 1121 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:23,520 Speaker 5: Tweet over night? 1122 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 2: Wow, Twitter, what you Yeah, Well, I've. 1123 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,719 Speaker 1: Got something because one of the things we love doing 1124 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 1: is playing Hey what about this guy? And you know 1125 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,480 Speaker 1: that tweet meme that's going around about how dudes can 1126 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 1: just sit around and just name guys for ours Michael Dickerson, 1127 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 1: Well that basically got tweeted yesterday when it was announced 1128 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 1: the pool. Oh the Big Three draft came out from 1129 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,919 Speaker 1: Ami Traskia yesterday because when I saw the actual list 1130 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 1: of names there, so this felt like, hey what about that? 1131 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,879 Speaker 1: Look at some of the names in there. Festus A Zilli, Yes, 1132 00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 1: Deonte Christmas, Demarge Johnson, demand Johnson feels like it's two 1133 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:03,359 Speaker 1: thousand and four again. 1134 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,200 Speaker 3: Back, Yeah, Brown and Bobbie Brown. 1135 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,800 Speaker 1: I like that Corey Brewer is in. I mean Corey Brewer. 1136 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 1: I thought he had tied like five times in his career. 1137 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,360 Speaker 1: I know this is kind of different, but look at 1138 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 1: the big one down the bottom there, the former Denver nugget, 1139 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 1: the guy who no one knows how to spell his name, 1140 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:25,640 Speaker 1: but everyone recognizes his name, Nikolaus Chilly. 1141 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,279 Speaker 2: So I like, I like this guy that I've never 1142 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 2: heard of, New Williams. 1143 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,040 Speaker 1: Are you a Seawan Williams or a Sean Williams More Now, 1144 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:39,919 Speaker 1: I'm like, hey. 1145 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 2: Hey, hey, mister Williams, and name my son knew? 1146 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:43,239 Speaker 1: How do you feel? 1147 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 2: I think he's gonna have a problem sleep stutter. 1148 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 1: Mine's in the mix there. 1149 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I in a Sunday at at Ganes. 1150 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,720 Speaker 1: It's good to have a Roscoe in there. To Roscoe 1151 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:53,960 Speaker 1: Smith got him. 1152 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,399 Speaker 3: A lot of people Lee were asking if we sent 1153 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,279 Speaker 3: in a mixed tap of our highlights from Wednesday night 1154 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 3: because they saw name down there at the bottom. T 1155 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:02,799 Speaker 3: k E doggy. 1156 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 2: Wow. Two of you come by and you guys are 1157 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:12,879 Speaker 2: in the Big Three. 1158 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 3: That was crazy. 1159 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean a couple of your classics in there. 1160 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,319 Speaker 1: You're Jordan Crawford, You're Jordan Hills, Julian Wright, former raptor 1161 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 1: I believe. 1162 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:26,920 Speaker 3: By Yeah. They said he was going to go pro 1163 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,799 Speaker 3: after his junior year of high school. Wow he didn't. 1164 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 2: So you know what's crazy is you think this is 1165 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 2: a Big Three like draft of names. This is the 1166 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:35,560 Speaker 2: Coachella liner. 1167 00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 1: It could be C J. Carter, Curtis Darrell's, Yeah, Booby Gibson. 1168 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,800 Speaker 1: I see, I'm assuming that's Booby Gibson. There the Daniel Gibson. 1169 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So there you go. I 1170 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 1: just thought, yeah, we were all sitting around just naming names, 1171 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,879 Speaker 1: and the Big Three said, why not turn that into 1172 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,799 Speaker 1: a league for a while. Now. 1173 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you ever watch any Big Three? 1174 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,439 Speaker 1: I think at the start. I think at the start 1175 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 1: because it's one of those things I think it sounds 1176 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 1: great you're seeing these some form of legends play, but 1177 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,360 Speaker 1: it's actually not that great. After you watch it for 1178 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 1: a while, it's like it's okay. 1179 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:13,440 Speaker 2: I mean, how long has it been around? 1180 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:14,640 Speaker 3: Big Three? 1181 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 1: Probably longer than that. 1182 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,880 Speaker 2: Koodles to them for still like, yeah, you know there's a. 1183 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,120 Speaker 1: Skill in the news Cube still the man behind it? 1184 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:28,840 Speaker 3: No, yes, ice Cube, Yeah, yeah, he's the founder and 1185 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 3: apparently Clyde Drexler as the commissioner. Now, has anybody gone 1186 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,520 Speaker 3: from Big Three back to the NBA? Joe Johnson, you 1187 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 3: had a little cup of coffee with the Celtics, And 1188 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,360 Speaker 3: I don't know if anybody else has, because there's some 1189 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,560 Speaker 3: youngish names, like people are pointing out kJ McDaniels was 1190 00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:47,240 Speaker 3: in the league. 1191 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:52,480 Speaker 1: Very young name. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I think 1192 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,279 Speaker 1: there has been one or two other guys, but sure, 1193 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:55,640 Speaker 1: I can't think of them right now. 1194 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 2: Let us know on the stream team, if you've gone 1195 00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 2: to a Big Three game, that's what I want to know. 1196 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,320 Speaker 2: You know, I've seen it on TV, But what's it 1197 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 2: like in person? 1198 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:04,640 Speaker 1: Is it fun? 1199 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 2: How many games are you getting? I assume it's more 1200 00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,359 Speaker 2: than one game. You must be getting a yeah, it's 1201 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,719 Speaker 2: like that type of yeah, okay, all right, good for them. 1202 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,280 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. I would not have been betting 1203 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,960 Speaker 2: the over on how many years the Big Three would 1204 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,920 Speaker 2: have been surviving what it first launch. I would have 1205 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,239 Speaker 2: been like, okay, this might be a this might be 1206 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,759 Speaker 2: around for two years tops, and here they are and 1207 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:24,480 Speaker 2: they're still in the news. 1208 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 3: Five years in. 1209 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, five years in there you go. Congrats to mister 1210 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,520 Speaker 2: Cube and now mister Drexler commissioner drets are. 1211 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:30,880 Speaker 3: There, all right? 1212 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,400 Speaker 2: Good tweet literly, let's call it there, wild show email 1213 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,280 Speaker 2: in your NBA questions too. 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Great job. 1224 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,920 Speaker 1: Was Michael pickuson number twenty two for the grizz leap 1225 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,359 Speaker 1: I don't know, I think it was eight? 1226 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 3: Was he twenty two? Is bane though? That has been Baine. 1227 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,919 Speaker 2: Good call. All right, guys, thank you so much sending 1228 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 2: those questions. Like I said, we'll be back tomorrow. To 1229 00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,160 Speaker 2: hopefully talk about a close game tonight, Game four of 1230 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,920 Speaker 2: the Western Conference Finals and No Breaks later today one 1231 00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,879 Speaker 2: pm Eastern, TK and Graydon talking about the Spanish GP. 1232 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 2: Checkout No Breaks on YouTube and its own podcast feed. 1233 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,240 Speaker 2: Until then, clever bros, you heard. 1234 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,319 Speaker 3: It here first, have a great time turn up. 1235 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,360 Speaker 5: Love you guys awesome, thanks for joining us, and remember 1236 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,360 Speaker 5: von Wafer's first name is actually the Keaton. 1237 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,640 Speaker 2: If that's how you pronounce it, Embrace today, people,