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Speaker 1: Shades of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. Welcome to our podcast.

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Speaker 1: Please be aware the thoughts and opinions expressed by the

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Speaker 1: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do

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Speaker 1: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi.

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Speaker 1: I'm Sandra Champlain. For almost twenty five years, I've been

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Speaker 1: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.

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Speaker 1: On each episode will discuss the reasons we now know

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Speaker 1: that our loved ones have survived physical death and so

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Speaker 1: will be welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. A friend

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Speaker 1: of mine reminded me of these powerful words by the

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Speaker 1: Great Inspirer Silver Birch. One day after death, you will

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Speaker 1: be the same individual as you were one day before it,

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Speaker 1: except that you will have discarded your physical body. You

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Speaker 1: will express yourself through your etheric body, which is a

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Speaker 1: perfect replica of the physical one. It does not, however,

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Speaker 1: reproduce any of its imperfections. All diseases and infirmities will

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Speaker 1: be left behind. The death will hear, the dumb will speak,

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Speaker 1: the blind will see, the cripple will be a cripple

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Speaker 1: no longer. You must try and understand that life in

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Speaker 1: the spirit world is not dreamy or nebulous. It is

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Speaker 1: life if that each one of us lives here. We

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Speaker 1: or the spirit seem to us shadowy and vague, But

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Speaker 1: to those who live on the other side, the mental

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Speaker 1: will be hard for you to grasp, but you will

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Speaker 1: find a perfect analogy. If you think of your dreams.

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Speaker 1: When you dream, all the things that you encounter are

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Speaker 1: real at the time of their happening. They only become

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Speaker 1: You must dismiss from your mind the old fashioned theological

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Speaker 1: idea that after death there is an undisturbed eternal sleep.

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Speaker 1: There may be at first a short time of rest

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Speaker 1: question you will ask is how will I be able

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Shamplaint

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Speaker 1: and we are with medium and author Deborah Martin. Deborah,

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Speaker 1: So what happened since then? What else have you been

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Speaker 1: What happened was the voice. Remember I said voice I

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Speaker 1: now messages that come through me that others who have

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Speaker 1: at all. I don't want to know anything, but everything

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Speaker 1: incredible what comes through. But in order to do this work,

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Speaker 1: and to always trust everything that comes through to remove

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Speaker 1: comes in many forms for us to see. You might

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Speaker 1: I believe it's all one. So in my healing sessions,

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Speaker 1: what happens is I heal emotionally, physically, and spiritually, and

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Speaker 1: I'll tap into a frequency and we each vibrate on

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Speaker 1: So once I find yours and I add mine, I

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Speaker 1: Now this is remote, so you're in in another place,

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Speaker 1: so many and the energy travels instantly. And what's so

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Speaker 1: I'm Sander Champlain and this next segment I want to

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Speaker 1: share with you just some short near death experiences, some

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Speaker 1: really great stories from people told in their own way

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Speaker 1: that life goes on. First, we're going to hear Dr

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00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: Gary Habernas explain to near death experiences that really are

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Speaker 1: pretty highly evidential and that can't be explained away. Let's listen, um,

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Speaker 1: this woman, she's being operated on, she has a near

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Speaker 1: death experience. She's up above her body, she's looking down,

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Speaker 1: she's watching herself, and sometimes they don't even know it's

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Speaker 1: them because they identified with who's up by the ceiling.

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Speaker 1: That's her point of consciousness. And on the top of

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Speaker 1: this medical device that was in the room. You know,

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Speaker 1: hospitals often rivet numbers like officers due to keep track

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Speaker 1: of typewriters and to keep track of things. She looked

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Speaker 1: down and there was a twelve digit number driven in

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Speaker 1: onto the top of this medical thing. And she said,

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Speaker 1: I'm O C D. And so I memorized the twelve

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Speaker 1: digit number. And so she comes to she says to

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Speaker 1: the nurse, write this down. Now, I'm not saying this

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Speaker 1: is the number, but it's like, write this down six seven,

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Speaker 1: five to one, six zero zero twelve numbers. And the

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Speaker 1: nurse wrote down and they were later moving the apparatus

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Speaker 1: out of the room, and the nurse jumps in and says,

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Speaker 1: whoa wa, wait a minute, let me get my sheet out. Wow,

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Speaker 1: the number is exactly right. Now she sees that in

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Speaker 1: the state and many of these people. When you have

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Speaker 1: a cardiac arrest with tricking refibrillation particular species of cardiac arrest,

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Speaker 1: you have no measurable heart waves and within an average

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Speaker 1: of fifteen seconds, you have no brain waves. So if

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Speaker 1: she was out of her body for as long as

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Speaker 1: five minutes, she theoretically has no heart or brain waves.

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Speaker 1: How does she know to repeat that data? How does

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Speaker 1: she know what's up there? So that's one. Another one

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Speaker 1: is a real fast for a guy had surgery. He

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Speaker 1: was up of his body watching the doctors do this,

510
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: but he got maybe a little bored, I don't know.

511
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Speaker 1: He started drifting a little bit, looking around. He would

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Speaker 1: throw a wall into the next surgical ward. And he

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Speaker 1: watched a guy having his leg amputated. So he gives

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Speaker 1: an explanation of what happens in the room with a

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Speaker 1: leg amputation because I saw it. But ne're on that bed, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I'm telling you I saw it. How do you know?

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Speaker 1: Here's some explanation. I'm making up what he might have said,

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Speaker 1: but he could have said, well, all the all the

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00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: nurses in the room had white uniforms on, except for

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Speaker 1: this one. She had a pale green uniform on. I

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Speaker 1: mean something like that. Or these are actual an actual cases.

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Speaker 1: In one a person dropped a beak around the floor

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Speaker 1: to broke and the person watched it. Or another one

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00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: a woman's pin fell off her dress and a doctor

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00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: stepped on it, and then death person said, I know

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Speaker 1: who lost the pen, and I can name the doctor

527
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Speaker 1: who stepped on it because I saw it. So these

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00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: are data. And many times, in the absence of heart

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Speaker 1: and brain, any kind of activity measurable. And so it

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Speaker 1: seems like we're talking about here's the point, we're talking

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Speaker 1: about consciousness beyond the initial death of heart and brain.

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Speaker 1: Now it's near death because the person comes back from it,

533
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Speaker 1: but during those minutes while they're out, it's highly evidential. Now.

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Speaker 1: Dr ken Ring back in n was a young professor

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Speaker 1: of psychology at the University of Connecticut when he read

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Speaker 1: Dr Raymond Moody's book Life After Life and Dr Moody

537
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Speaker 1: is the man who coined the phrase near death experience.

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Speaker 1: Ken Ring was so inspired by Moody's investigations, but felt

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Speaker 1: that a more scientifically structured study was strengthen Moody's findings,

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Speaker 1: so he sought out a hundred and two near death

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Speaker 1: survivors for his research. I'd like to play to use

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Speaker 1: some of the recordings from people he interviewed about their

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Speaker 1: experience back in and how it impacted their lives. This

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Speaker 1: first one is Vita, aged eight and a kindergarten teacher

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Speaker 1: that was in a car accident and thrown out. Was

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Speaker 1: in severe pain. I had a fractured clavical and lace

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00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: rations all over my body, and I had thought that

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Speaker 1: I had broken my jaw. I had tremendous pain in

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Speaker 1: my drawer, and I went unconscious. The thing that amazed

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Speaker 1: me was that as the pain became extremely severe, my

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00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: breathing became far more shallow, and as I exhaled, I

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00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: became very numb. And the more numb I became, I suggested,

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00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: without realizing it zoomed out of my body like in

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00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: a funnel fashion, and just hovered over it. And I

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00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 1: wasn't aware that I had left my body at that time.

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00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: I was only aware that I wasn't in pain and

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00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: that something was different. Uh. And then I became very

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00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: familiar of my surroundings and space and realized that that

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00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: I was separated, but still did not know exactly how

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00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: until I got high enough up where I saw a

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00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: bald headed man put a blanket on my body. And

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00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: the most interesting thing at that moment was when I

563
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: realized I was out of my body and that I

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Speaker 1: was no longer Vita. I did not have a gender whatsoever.

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00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: There wasn't a back front or anything. I was shapeless, odorless, colorless,

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Speaker 1: you know, just something like a um an invisible gas

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00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: of some sort. Ah. And I just experimented with the

568
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: air around me. I was the atmosphere, and the higher

569
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: up I went, the more I became part of the air.

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Speaker 1: Um An interesting thing was that my hearing during this

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Speaker 1: escalation was extremely acute, as though I was next to

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Speaker 1: anybody who was nearby. When the police came, I could

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Speaker 1: hear them as accurately as though I was standing right

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Speaker 1: by them when they were trying to shape me, you know,

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00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: on the ground, I as though I was back in

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00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: my body again. The minute I decided that I had

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00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: to come back, the light never came back. That beautiful light.

578
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 1: I just plopped into my body. I don't even remember

579
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Speaker 1: the coming down. I just was in and I woke

580
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: up in such unbelievable pain. It was excruciating. I just

581
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 1: was overwhelming. Did you remember your experience at the time

582
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Speaker 1: that you came back, Yes, I did, very vividly, but

583
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,479
Speaker 1: I did not speak of it for a very long time,

584
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Speaker 1: very selectively. My family did not know about it for many,

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00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 1: many years. Death is a beginning. Can It's beautiful, there's

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Speaker 1: a light. It's love. It's more beautiful. It's if you

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Speaker 1: really love somebody, you've got to be happy for where

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00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: they're going. It's an adventure. And they're not alone. See

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00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: we're afraid of somebody being alone, but they're not alone

590
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: beyond and not only not alone, but it seems like

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Speaker 1: they're surrounded by this sort of atmosphere of love that

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Speaker 1: it's very difficult to leave once you encounter. Or it

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Speaker 1: isn't it. It's beautiful. It is just as though you

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00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: know you're being held in a cradle of love and

595
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: just being carried to the most beautiful, magical story God

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Speaker 1: could ever create. And it's I just can't explain it.

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00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: It's lomness. Thank you Peter, Thank you. Our next story

598
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Speaker 1: is from Tom Father, husband heavy equipment operator. Basically, the

599
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Speaker 1: truck did fall on me and the frame of the

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Speaker 1: truck came across my chest so that it immediately pushed

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Speaker 1: all the air out of me. The next thing that

602
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: I experienced or realized that I was in this um, huge,

603
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: vastness of just nothing, just darkness. I might add in

604
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: here during this time, the pressure and the pain that

605
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: you experienced during the accident was gone. You were relieved

606
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: of all that. The one sensation that you're very aware

607
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: of is your eyesight, or that you can see. You

608
00:37:55,360 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: then see that this area that you're in, that you're

609
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: passing through, takes the shape of a tunnel, and dimension

610
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 1: wise it was. It was vast. It was anywhere from

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Speaker 1: a thousand feet to a thousand miles wide, and it

612
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: was definitely to infinity. And before you is this just magnificent, beautiful,

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00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: bright white light. You are confronted by true pure love.

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Speaker 1: In my case, since I've talked to other people, I

615
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: realized that they necessarily did not We're not given a choice.

616
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: In my case, at that moment, I was aware that

617
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: I could immediately choose to leave and return to reality

618
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 1: or my body or I could have the choice of

619
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Speaker 1: moving forward or desiring to enter into or become part

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00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: m rather emotional become part of this light. And the

621
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Speaker 1: next moments I did desire to become part of this light, UM,

622
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: including considering my life and reality, the the love that

623
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Speaker 1: I have for my wife and children, for the people

624
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: around me, the wonderful things that I've been able to

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00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: do in my life. I've had a really exciting and

626
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 1: wonderful life UM prior to this experience, and the wonderful

627
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: things that I can continue to do, helping the people

628
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: around me, making love to my children and my wife

629
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: and close friends and so on. UM. But it was

630
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: so much more desirable. This was perfection. This, This was

631
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: Hea or God UM. And it is now confusing to me.

632
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 1: I don't recall making a specific choice. I recall desiring

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00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: to enter this light, and I did in fact make

634
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: a forward motion. The return trip was extremely vivid, and

635
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: it was everything in reverse. UM went back through the

636
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 1: tunnel right that through the tunnel and to reality, and

637
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: upon reaching the the beginning of the tunnel at the

638
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: reality point, UH, I woke up or came to ur

639
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: entered my body with a just a huge bang with

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Speaker 1: a jolt similar to an electric shack, or just you know,

641
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: bang like that. I write about Dr Ring in my

642
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: book We Don't Die, a skeptics discovery of life after death,

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Speaker 1: but he is also the author of many books if

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Speaker 1: you're boy this topic. Dr Ring even studied thirty one

645
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Speaker 1: blind people who either experienced a near death experience or

646
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Speaker 1: an out of body experience. Half of these people have

647
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: been blind since birth, yet each one of these people

648
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 1: was able to accurately see information about the doctors operating

649
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: on them, the people who came to visit, the colors

650
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Speaker 1: they were wearing, and often visions of angelic figures and

651
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: deceased relatives. Here's a great quote by Helen Keller. Death

652
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Speaker 1: is no more than passing from one room into another.

653
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Speaker 1: But here's the difference for me, you know, because in

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Speaker 1: that other room I shall be able to see. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back in just a minute. You're listening to Shades

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Speaker 1: Your profile on Paranormal day dot com looked very interesting.

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Speaker 1: So you really saw a UFO? Well yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: You are not alone. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.

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Speaker 1: I'm Sandra Champlain and we are listening to recording from

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00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,919
Speaker 1: where Dr ken Ring talks to some of his near

692
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: death experiencers. And this next one is Geraldine, thirty eight

693
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Speaker 1: years old, head cashier at a supermarket. The day they

694
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Speaker 1: sent me home from the hospital, they graciously gave me

695
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: a lot of medication so i'd have a comfortable ride

696
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: home and i'd be fine when I got there. And

697
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: the result was that it was too much for me,

698
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Speaker 1: and when I got home, I collapsed at the point

699
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: that actually happened. I was screaming and I was vomiting

700
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: at the same time, and I felt myself getting ready

701
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: to pay us out, and I was conscious of my

702
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: two sons were standing in the doorway, and I was

703
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: looking at my husband, and next thing I know, I

704
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 1: was looking down at my husband. And it was unclear.

705
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: At first, I said, I'm looking at myself, and I

706
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: looked down at the bedroom scene, and all of a sudden,

707
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: I said, my god, I'm dead. The other way I

708
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: can describe my immediate feeling was if you could describe

709
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: or see or feel a smile or a complete contentment

710
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: or happiness. That was it. I seen myself. My physical

711
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 1: body was still alive, and I was still screaming, did

712
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: you yes, very clearly, And I could see the backs

713
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: of my husband's head and my mother's, and I could

714
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: see my son's. I had a very good, clear vision.

715
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: But I had no feeling towards these people. If anything,

716
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: I was looking down in amusement because I still had

717
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: this smiley feeling, and I had no attachment, no feeling.

718
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: It was like I was looking at that glass of water.

719
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I have no attachment to that glass of water.

720
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: That's how I was viewing myself exactly, and I felt

721
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: that I was in a vacuum. What the reason I

722
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: say that is because I could hear nothing, but yet

723
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: I heard the vacuum, not a noise of a vacuum cleaner,

724
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 1: but I heard the quietness, and with that it was

725
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: a peacefulness. I wasn't a body. I wasn't in a

726
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: body form. If anything, I think I I may have

727
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: had a head or a center, and the rest of

728
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: me was just something very loose. Did you feel like

729
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: you were yourself? It was you that was It wasn't

730
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: my body. I was my mind. I say, I was

731
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: my spirit and contentment, happiness. It was the most wonderful

732
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: time in my life. It was peaceful, quiet, It was

733
00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: just it was magnificent. That It's hard to explain because

734
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: I feel it wasn't exactly worldly, So how can I

735
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: use worldly words to explain it to you? All I

736
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: can say is it was. It was a fantastic experience.

737
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: I was conscious of being maybe interest from the ceiling.

738
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: I could feel the closeness of the sailing. We were

739
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: aware of any other person's or presence. Is with you

740
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: at that time? Or did you feel that you were

741
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: alone in that space, I was alone, but I wasn't

742
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: alone there again, I felt the closeness or the protection

743
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: of this vacuum that I was in. It was like, um,

744
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: it's really hard to explain. It's like when you're real

745
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: upset in your little girl and your mother hugged you.

746
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: You have that everything's going to be okay now because

747
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: mommy is hugging me. Well, I didn't feel like somebody

748
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: was right there, but I had that wonderful protective feeling

749
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: of the vacuum, which kind of made me feel that

750
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: I wasn't alone. We just found out three years and

751
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,720
Speaker 1: my husband is dying of cancer. Now he's only thirty

752
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: four years old, and he has cancer of the pancreas,

753
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: liver and now bone cancer. And uh, what has happened

754
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: here with me is being so young. Of course, an

755
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: older person you expect to die, You expect that you

756
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: have a heart attack or die of cancer. But not

757
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: a healthy, very healthy, thirty four year old man. I

758
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: always wondered, I wonder why this has happened to me?

759
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: And you know what am I going to get out

760
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: of it? Very practical person? Now I know, because the

761
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: strength that it has given me is in turn allowing

762
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: me to give my husband strength to die. We've talked

763
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: about it hours on end. I know that I have

764
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,439
Speaker 1: given him peace of mind to the point he didn't

765
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: actually experience it, that he can't say, Okay, great, come

766
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: on death, but he can appreciate it. It calms him

767
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: down a little bit it and certainly he feels better

768
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: that I feel calmer about it. Boy, when we believe

769
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: in the afterlife, we don't fear death, and we look

770
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: at life differently, don't we. The next story is from Joe,

771
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: married with two kids, public school supervisor. I began to

772
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: hemorage internally and the stitches that were inside my body

773
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: only that the wound did not heal, and I lost

774
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: quite a bit of blood, and I felt myself going.

775
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: I was in a great deal of pain. It was

776
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 1: a very frightening experience. Um, but I began to slip.

777
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: I just sort of feel myself going, and I remember

778
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: trying to hold on, I'll be okay, I'll be okay.

779
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: And I got to the point where, you know, I

780
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 1: just couldn't and everything began to just become very quiet,

781
00:49:55,200 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 1: And I can remember with e an ounce of strength

782
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 1: I had. I wanted to say goodbye to my wife.

783
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: It was important to me and I did. I remember

784
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: just turning my head looking at her and saying, I'm

785
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: gonna die, goodbye, jump and I did. Um. It was

786
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 1: then that I experienced experience what we call a near

787
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 1: death experience. For me, there was nothing near about it.

788
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: It was there. Uh. It was a total immersion in light, brightness, warm, peace,

789
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: uh security. I did not have an outive body experience.

790
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: I did not see my body or anyone about me.

791
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: I just immediately went into this beautiful bright light. It's

792
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: difficult to describe a matter of fact, it's impossible to

793
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: this to describe verbally. It cannot be expressed. It's something

794
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 1: which it becomes you and you become it. I could

795
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: say that I was peace, I was loved, Ah, I

796
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: was the brightness. It was part of me. I had

797
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: no recollection of anything, excuse anything biological. It's not like

798
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: you could see something because your site is biological. It's

799
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: necessary here, hearing is necessary here, a speech is necessary. Here,

800
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 1: it's not there. You just know, you're you're all knowing.

801
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: Everything is a part of you, and it's just just

802
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 1: so beautiful. It was eternity. It's like I was always there,

803
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 1: and I will always be there. That my existence on

804
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: Earth was just a very brief instant um. It's it's

805
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: a hard concept to understand eternity because, and you compare

806
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: it to time, time requires progression. Things see a sequence

807
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: of things. Things follow each other. Uh, this is all

808
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 1: it wants. Everything. Uh. There, there's no passing from one

809
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: thing to another. I'd like to call it a different dimension,

810
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,439
Speaker 1: but I can't really call it that because that could

811
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,280
Speaker 1: be defined, and there are different dimensions. They have beginnings

812
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: and ends and and so that doesn't fit. It was.

813
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: It was at least at least six months after the

814
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: incident that I that I could even speak to my

815
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: wife about it. It was such an emotional, m beautiful,

816
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: swelling feeling inside that every time I tried to express it,

817
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: I think I would just explode, you know, I would

818
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: break down and cry. And she, for the longest time,

819
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: couldn't know what was wrong with me. She must have

820
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: wondered a lock then about how you were dealing with

821
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: this episode, because she, as you say, is a nurse

822
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: and knew the seriousness of your condition, and I guess

823
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: also knew that you had I gathered this is the

824
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 1: case that you had clinically died. Yes, my heart stopped,

825
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: stopped breathing. I guess I was out about a minute,

826
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: and they brought me back. The minute I came back,

827
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 1: and the pain returned immediately, the fear, I mean, I

828
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 1: just all the human emotion, everything human came back, and

829
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: I remember being very angry. They brought me back, and she,

830
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: my wife, ended up asking a while later. He seemed angry,

831
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: how come? You know? I just couldn't tell it. That

832
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: was probably the most frustrating six months of my existence.

833
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: After experiencing perfection and something so beautiful, I wanted to

834
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: hold onto it. I didn't want to let it go,

835
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: and it wasn't easy. Uh. After I had recovered the

836
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: second time and went home, everything just seemed to change.

837
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: It was almost like I was starting my life all

838
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 1: over again. I was a baby. Um, I hadn't made

839
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: the mistakes that I had made in my life, and

840
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: things weren't messed up or whatever. And I can recall,

841
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: in my attempt to hold onto this feeling and to

842
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: hold on to this piece, I began to bump into

843
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 1: earthly things. You know that, of course I aren't going

844
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: to escape from you. You know, they're they're there. My

845
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: first frustrating experiences experiences with the television. I couldn't watch television.

846
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: There would be a excuse me, a commercial, cosmetic commercial.

847
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I'd have to turn it off because it

848
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: was something false, It was unnecessary, it was fake. It

849
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: just didn't belong. You know, it's insignificant any type of violence.

850
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: If there was even a western and old Western movie,

851
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: I'd have to turn it off because to me, that

852
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: was total ignorance. There was just no reason on earth

853
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: to show people killing people. You know. They got to

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