WEBVTT - Kathy: Hot Takes and Tequila Sodas!

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bad Your Happy Hour. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Joe and I'm Serena, and we are here today with

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<v Speaker 1>actually one of the hosts of Bachelor Golden Hour, Kathy. Kathy,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Joe and Tourna. Thanks for having me. So excited

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<v Speaker 2>to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>We will. I mean, I think you've been on this

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we've met in person. I think you've been

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<v Speaker 1>on this podcast before. But I know it was an

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<v Speaker 1>issue at the beginning because Serena.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, yes, Serena didn't have too much, too many

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<v Speaker 2>good things to say about me. But Serena, have we

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<v Speaker 2>come a long way?

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<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Are we good? Are we good?

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, that's not actually accurate, but yes, Kathy,

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<v Speaker 3>we are more than good. I love you, but I

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<v Speaker 3>never didn't love you.

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<v Speaker 2>You just loved other people more. It's okay, I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>climbing up the hill here.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it. On one podcast two years ago, I

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<v Speaker 3>will never live it down to this woman.

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<v Speaker 2>I got my hid from boots on. Let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So Kathy, you go on. You know, I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of figured they were going to ask you. It seemed

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<v Speaker 1>like a no brainer to me. But were you surprised

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<v Speaker 1>at all to be asked to go on to Bachelor

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<v Speaker 1>in Paradise.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean everyone's always surprised. I knew they didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>as many goldens to choose from as they did young ones,

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<v Speaker 2>young ands, as I refer to them. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I am known for my banter and my silliness, so

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<v Speaker 2>I thought there was a chance. But still when you

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<v Speaker 2>get the call, it's it's exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and we know that your co host on Bachelor

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<v Speaker 3>Golden Hour, Susan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's left me in the dirt for a Frenchman.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just she least call it out.

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<v Speaker 3>How did she do that? She left you all alone

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<v Speaker 3>on the beach.

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<v Speaker 2>She did, actually, But you know what, he's a great guy.

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<v Speaker 2>She's happy, and who could ask for more?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>I love that my friend is happy.

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<v Speaker 3>How did you feel when you got on the boat

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<v Speaker 3>and you looked around and you saw the other goldens

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<v Speaker 3>that were going to be going to Paradise with you?

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<v Speaker 2>So I you know, I had made it well known

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<v Speaker 2>that I wanted to date with c K and I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to date with Keith, so I was thrilled to

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<v Speaker 2>see both of them there. I had a suspicion that

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<v Speaker 2>they may be there because there was sort of talk

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<v Speaker 2>going around who was going to be there. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>until until you arrive, you don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>What and did anything happen between you and c K?

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<v Speaker 2>So it was really strange. C K and I are

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<v Speaker 2>really good friends. We talked on the phone a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>but when he got I think he's camera shy or something.

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<v Speaker 2>He just shut down. And I was like, I kept saying,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, ck.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go. So I don't know what happened. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what happened, but you know, he missed the boat

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<v Speaker 2>literally and figuratively.

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<v Speaker 3>Out of the women there, who were you closest with.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, for sure, Leslie. And let me just say, Leslie,

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<v Speaker 2>it was great to see April because you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>just hadn't really talked in a few years, and we

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<v Speaker 2>got our love fest going again. Leslie and our roomed together,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it was a great opportunity to get to

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<v Speaker 2>know her better.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Nancy, but nance was there a hot minute.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she was in and out really quick.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned we'll refer to the to the youngins as

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<v Speaker 1>the youngins, but the young uns have more options, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's it just seems like there's more options opposed to you, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>it really seems like options are somewhat limited. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>feel that way when you were down there?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean a little bit because a little bit because

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<v Speaker 2>we were hoping that there were going to be more

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<v Speaker 2>guys there. We were sort of hoping that maybe some

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<v Speaker 2>of more of Jones cast offs, or maybe more of Jones,

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<v Speaker 2>the guys that didn't quite make the cut, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>would show up. But I have to be honest. Going

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<v Speaker 2>for me, I'm the eternal optimist. I'm always hoping to

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<v Speaker 2>find love. But I also was so excited about the

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to be the first Goldens with the Youngins. And honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm a mom of three. I thought, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I might be able to help them. I might give

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<v Speaker 2>them some good advice. So I was excited about that too.

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<v Speaker 3>Was there was there anything you were worried about going

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<v Speaker 3>into it with the mixing of the Goldens and the

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<v Speaker 3>young Ins.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, listen, I might have done a body shot

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<v Speaker 2>on c K for my birthday, but I was not.

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<v Speaker 2>I have three kids. Every you know, I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to hook up with a young guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just not so.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't worried at all. I was there for the

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<v Speaker 2>adventure of the fun, hopefully to fall in love and

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<v Speaker 2>be sort of the mom to anybody who wanted to talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Who do you think you were the most mom too?

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<v Speaker 1>When you were down there out of the like who

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<v Speaker 1>were you? Who was coming to you? A lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I talked to really all of the young ones, I'd

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<v Speaker 2>say the most was Parisa, Alex and and and Jess

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<v Speaker 2>and Jess.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, all right, so Keith, you you and Keith

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<v Speaker 1>are in a platonic relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. It seemed to have started as potentially exploring something romantic.

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<v Speaker 3>We see you guys go to the vip VIP suite

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<v Speaker 3>for your date night, kind of walk us through how

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<v Speaker 3>that night went and then how it ended up gearing

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<v Speaker 3>just more towards friendship.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, for me, it was a no brainer. When

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<v Speaker 2>I won the secret challenge and made sure I won

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<v Speaker 2>that challenge, there was it was no question I was

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<v Speaker 2>going to invite Keith. And we had a great time.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked, we made jokes. Keith has the most amazing

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<v Speaker 2>sense of humor and he's such a kind guy all

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<v Speaker 2>wrapped into one.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's why the Youngins love him. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's why the Goldens love him. He's just that guy

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<v Speaker 2>that can go anywhere and have a conversation with anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>And so, uh, you know, we sat in the hot

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<v Speaker 2>tub and had champagne and strawberries, and we had some

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<v Speaker 2>swimming races and some just laughs, and so I think

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<v Speaker 2>for both of us it was such a great time.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was also confirmation that we were just always

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<v Speaker 2>going to be good.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, and the Romanda connection just wasn't really there as

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<v Speaker 3>much as the love was there.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, exactly, Yeah, for both of us.

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<v Speaker 1>Two part question, who rubbed you the wrong way? Out

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<v Speaker 1>of the Golden Cast and out of the young and Cast?

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<v Speaker 1>If anyone did, they may not.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, I'm this is Kathy always tells

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<v Speaker 2>the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Kim, That's what I'm asking.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I am who I am, Kim? Why because

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<v Speaker 2>I am a friendly person. I got to know everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew some of the I knew some of the

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<v Speaker 2>Youngins from being on our podcast, Golden Hour podcast. I

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<v Speaker 2>knew some of the Goldens from meeting them at other events.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd never met Kim, and my husband was an officer

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<v Speaker 2>in the Navy. My husband won the Navy Achievement Medal,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the highest honor you can get as an officer,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I just let you know we can have

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<v Speaker 2>some chats about naval officer times. Anyway, I went up

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<v Speaker 2>to him and I said, you know, Kim, I've talked

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<v Speaker 2>with everybody, but I really haven't chatted with you much, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>is there something wrong? Did I say something? I just

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't figure it out? And he looked at me up

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<v Speaker 2>and down with his eyeballs and said, there is absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>nothing about you I find attractive.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that is a horrible that is really not nice.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think perhaps people can understand. I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's okay, he's not attracted me. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>attracted to him, but I would never say something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think he's a nice enough guy for somebody,

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<v Speaker 2>but uh.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have to find someone attractive to want to

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<v Speaker 3>get to know them.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you say your poem suck? Did you say that too?

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<v Speaker 1>And you say your fucking poemsuck? That?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I just tell you I may or may not

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<v Speaker 2>have had a few laughs. First the poem to Leslie,

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<v Speaker 2>then a poem to Faith. It was like, the guy

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<v Speaker 2>likes to write poems. He's he's singing in the mansion,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's writing poems in Paradise.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a creative.

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<v Speaker 1>What was your when he said that to you? What

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<v Speaker 1>was your response?

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<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, I I tend to take handle

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<v Speaker 2>difficult situations and sort of make a joke of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think I said something like, well, okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess said no where I stand? Nice walked away.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So what do you think about Kim and Faith's relationship that?

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<v Speaker 3>And where do you stand with Faith?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Faith? That I we talk. We're very good friends. I

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<v Speaker 2>think you know some people, I think I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>where they are. I suspect their only friends, because that's

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<v Speaker 2>what you know, was the vibe, but except for the

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<v Speaker 2>making out part. But we'll just sca, we'll just skim

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<v Speaker 2>over that. I think that I can't speak to where

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<v Speaker 2>they are today. But I like Faith a lot, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, Faith felt really hard for Gary

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<v Speaker 2>are Gary from Golden Bachelor, and I think that she

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to explore getting to know him good for her.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Paradise is about exploring relationships and fallen in love.

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<v Speaker 3>So watching the show, it does appear that they are

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<v Speaker 3>in a romantic relationship where they're exploring and they're falling

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<v Speaker 3>for each other maybe a little bit. But I can

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<v Speaker 3>tell from your interviews that you aren't really buying into

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<v Speaker 3>that it's more than a friendship. Can you maybe provide

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<v Speaker 3>us with a little context?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, I just I just think that I just didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get the vibe. I did not get the feel. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Faith and I had conversations when she came. She chose

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<v Speaker 2>me to go horseback riding with I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>I really can't say more than I don't think Faith.

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<v Speaker 2>She came in there were very limited options, so she

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to make silk out of a sow's ear.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so you feel like, you know, the effort was

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<v Speaker 3>being put in, but like the romance wasn't really there.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm not dear Abby, but I you know

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<v Speaker 2>she was. They came and went. She came and went

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<v Speaker 2>pretty quickly. And you know, if she could fall in

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<v Speaker 2>love that fast, I want whatever she's smoking, drinking, or eating.

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<v Speaker 3>How is the horseback riding with Faith? You're really really

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<v Speaker 3>scared of horses? Well?

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<v Speaker 2>I got to say Faith was fabulous. I really was.

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<v Speaker 2>People think I was joking. Oh no. When she asked

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<v Speaker 2>me to go hers back writing, I thought, and the

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<v Speaker 2>reason she asked me back on golden. At Teresa and

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<v Speaker 2>Gary's wedding, I made a smart alec comment shocker about uh,

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<v Speaker 2>she could never leave her hometown because she has a

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<v Speaker 2>dead horse in her backyard. I didn't, I did. I

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<v Speaker 2>said it, but I didn't realize she had raised this

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<v Speaker 2>horse from a puppy or you know whatever called folds

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<v Speaker 2>and this she trained it, and you know, it was

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<v Speaker 2>like a child to her and she had like twenty

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<v Speaker 2>something years. Had I known that, I would have never

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<v Speaker 2>said it. So she came to me and talked, and

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<v Speaker 2>she knows I'm deadly afraid of horses. So I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>I owe it to faith to you know, to I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to repair our friendship. And I thought, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't talk and not do. You can't take risks. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>you cannot not take risks. And so I thought, I've

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<v Speaker 2>got to prove to people that being golden doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>you're just wrapped up and out in the field somewhere,

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<v Speaker 2>that you're willing to try things that scare you. So

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<v Speaker 2>that was the impetus for me saying yes to it,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was fun, but I was scared to death

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<v Speaker 2>most of the time. And Faith kept talking to me,

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<v Speaker 2>telling me what to do, except she was talking into

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<v Speaker 2>the wind and I literally could say, Faith, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>hear you because I couldn't hear. But I you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I did it. I loved it. I came off feeling

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<v Speaker 2>like I could ride a horse again. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>win win, That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>I loved that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then out of the youngins, has anyone rubbed you

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong way?

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<v Speaker 2>Brian and Jeremy. Remember I'm from Boston, so I can

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<v Speaker 2>I can take it, you know, those guys that Northeastern vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>They I think it was hard watching Parisa, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>saying when she goes and talks to him, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>did I do too much? Am I Am? I not

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<v Speaker 2>who you're looking for? All that sort of emotional turmoil.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love Parisa and she is such a lovely person,

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<v Speaker 2>so I I was I want to take him and

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<v Speaker 2>flap him upside the head and say, look at this girl,

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<v Speaker 2>what is wrong with you? And then Jeremy, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing was Susie. I was like, oh, come on,

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<v Speaker 2>but rubbing me the wrong way? You know, I love

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<v Speaker 2>them both. They're great guys, But come.

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<v Speaker 1>On, in your opinion down there, who who do you

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<v Speaker 1>think is the strongest couple? You know, being a mother,

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<v Speaker 1>being someone who's wise, You've seen a lot like who

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<v Speaker 1>in your opinion has legs to make it after this show?

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<v Speaker 2>There are two that I jessin Spencer without a doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>I could see it from the minute I walked into Paradise.

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<v Speaker 2>And Andrew and Alex I think have a really good shot.

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<v Speaker 2>I also think, actually, Daleen Kat I do. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they're both at a Dale and Cat are both at

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<v Speaker 2>points in their lives where they know what they want.

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<v Speaker 2>They're both beautiful people, they're both energetic, They both you know,

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<v Speaker 2>have have a vision for their future, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>I could well include each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice. Okay, so we see the show. The format somewhat

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<v Speaker 1>switches to a well does switch to a competition show?

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<v Speaker 1>Five hundred thousand dollars is introduced. Yeah, like, where did

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<v Speaker 1>you did you know this? Going in? Where's your logic?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a game. You're partnered up with Keith.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys are friends. You could potentially win money yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I've said to another podcasts and you're probably

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<v Speaker 2>not going to believe me. Keith and I, as soon

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<v Speaker 2>as we knew money was involved, we both looked at

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<v Speaker 2>each other and said, there is no way we will

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<v Speaker 2>take money away from young kids. That we would self eliminate,

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<v Speaker 2>throw the contest, whatever it was, to make sure we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't win. And I honestly will.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell you why why would you think that I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>believe that.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe well, because I think most people dangle five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand dollars and who do I have to kill

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<v Speaker 2>to get it? And I'm not that way. But here's

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<v Speaker 2>what Here is the truly my truth. I am at

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<v Speaker 2>a point in my life. I'm in the last great

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<v Speaker 2>chapter of my life, and I am so much more

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<v Speaker 2>about connection with people than money. I have enough money

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<v Speaker 2>to live. You know, would five hundred thousand be great

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<v Speaker 2>if someone forced it into palms of my end? You bet.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm much more interested in people and connections and

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<v Speaker 2>ships and my children and my grandchildren and that guy

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<v Speaker 2>that's out there waiting for me. So I want to

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<v Speaker 2>see the young ones win the money. I want them

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<v Speaker 2>to get a great start on their life. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's find a home or cars or paying off

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<v Speaker 2>college debt.

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<v Speaker 1>But are you are you interested at all in playing

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<v Speaker 1>in just competing?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I'm a competitor. I so that was the struggle

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<v Speaker 2>for me, Like, oh, I wanted to win when Keith

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<v Speaker 2>could not get the keys in the treasure chest. You

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<v Speaker 2>heard what I said, why send a you know, why

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<v Speaker 2>send a man to do a woman's job. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to win, but I don't want to win

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<v Speaker 2>at the expense of the younguns. No way.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So you liked the competition element and competing, but

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<v Speaker 3>when it came down to it, you weren't motivated by

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<v Speaker 3>the money. You were more motivated by winning these challenges.

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<v Speaker 1>One it seemed like Sean went pretty like full throttle

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<v Speaker 1>on playing the game and the like, playing the game

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<v Speaker 1>and getting caught up in the game, and it ended

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<v Speaker 1>up being his demise that week. But what was your

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<v Speaker 1>take on it? Did you have an issue with him

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<v Speaker 1>doing that?

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<v Speaker 2>I actually did. I took him aside well to the

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<v Speaker 2>extent that he did it. It's you know, again, I've

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<v Speaker 2>said it a million times. Love money. Sometimes they're like

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<v Speaker 2>well and vinegar don't mix. I think that Sean took

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<v Speaker 2>it too far. He was strategizing to the nines about

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<v Speaker 2>who should we get rid of, and you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>and when he sat down with Keith and me and said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we need to get rid of this one

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<v Speaker 2>or that one, and and Alicia and I have the

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<v Speaker 2>strongest relationship here, I was like, no, you don't. And

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<v Speaker 2>that to me has nothing to do with winning the money.

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<v Speaker 2>When you bring money into it, it's it. It may

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<v Speaker 2>or may not change your relationship. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>that the issue. Are you here for love or money?

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<v Speaker 2>Jonathan came out and said it he didn't find love,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm not going home. I want the money. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, what, And Brian had said it he wanted

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<v Speaker 2>the money. Jeremy said he wanted it. But I do

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<v Speaker 2>think the young'ins believed Keith and may because we both

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<v Speaker 2>said to them, where guys, we're not We're not doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't know if that's you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think that that may have saved you this

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<v Speaker 3>past week from going home where you know, Jonathan and

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<v Speaker 3>Leah got sent home as people knew that they were

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<v Speaker 3>competing for the money, whereas you and Keith were not.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will say, I will say before you answer

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<v Speaker 1>that Dale did come on this podcast and say that

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<v Speaker 1>he kept you guys, not for the competitive reason, but

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<v Speaker 1>because he valued your relationship and your advice.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I love you Dale, honestly. That that's what I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I think many of them they came to us, both

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<v Speaker 2>of us, in separate moments, and said, we love having

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<v Speaker 2>you here, we love being able to talk to you

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<v Speaker 2>and ask you questions. And they did. But I also

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<v Speaker 2>think they really knew we weren't a threat. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's twofold. They knew that we were not going to

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<v Speaker 2>take the money, but they also appreciated the care and

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<v Speaker 2>concern that we both gave the young uns.

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<v Speaker 3>There seems to be a unspoken or maybe it's spoken,

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<v Speaker 3>understanding amongst the group that the strongest romantic relationships should

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<v Speaker 3>be the ones to make it to the end, and

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<v Speaker 3>one of those couples should be the ones to win

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<v Speaker 3>the money. Do you agree with that mentality? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. I think that's why making it a competition

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<v Speaker 1>show changes the whole game, because those people should be

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<v Speaker 1>picked off.

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<v Speaker 2>Who should be picked off?

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<v Speaker 1>The strong competitors, the strong couples get them out.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you know it's from a competitive from a

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<v Speaker 1>super comp like if you were in a.

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<v Speaker 2>Minute, if you're, if you're I define a strong couple

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<v Speaker 2>by being a couple in love. You can be in

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<v Speaker 2>love and guess the wrong numbers, can't find the keys

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<v Speaker 2>in the sand, you know what? Are so so for me?

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<v Speaker 2>And I said this, the the strong couples, if they're

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<v Speaker 2>that strong, they're going to go home and they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to pursue love and pursue their relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>The people who are good competitors and and can win

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<v Speaker 2>games are going to go home with a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>money and the two don't necessarily have anything to do

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<v Speaker 2>with each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree, I agree with that. Yeah, I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I take back what I said. I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of people are saying, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>for example, Justin Spencer should stay because they're, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>really in a serious relationship. But if you think about it,

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<v Speaker 3>Justin Spencer are winning competitions. They're the most likely at

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<v Speaker 3>this point probably to win the five hundred thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>If you send them home right now, they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>keep dating that that's not going to be make or

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<v Speaker 3>breaks in their relationships. Right, but you have to remember

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<v Speaker 3>to see the mentality of the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you have to remember the young ands are

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<v Speaker 2>all very close with each other, and oh, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>send this one home because we're good friends and we're

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<v Speaker 2>so and I literally one of the pieces of advice

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<v Speaker 2>I gave is, listen, guys, you're going to be friends

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<v Speaker 2>after this. This is not You've got to understand. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're here for love, you're here for love. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>here for the money, you're here for the money. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to get if you want to win

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<v Speaker 2>the money, get rid of the people that are winning

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<v Speaker 2>the challenges. I mean, it's just to me, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>logical thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>During during the glamping challenge, you and Keith have Yeah, such.

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<v Speaker 3>A glamping is a strong word.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>You and Keith have like a really sweet conversation. Was

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<v Speaker 1>there any part of you that I thought, maybe like

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<v Speaker 1>this could turn romantically with Keith during that moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's be clear, we were drinking wine, and you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know what, sometimes that's all it takes. That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>It certainly can create loose lips. We did. We Keith

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<v Speaker 2>is you know he was advertised on Jones season as

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<v Speaker 2>girl dad. And he is a lovely man who is

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<v Speaker 2>very sensitive. And you know, he complimented me and and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, telling me I was beautiful and kind and

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<v Speaker 2>all that. And I think he thinks that. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't speak for why Keith isn't smart enough to

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<v Speaker 2>know that I'm a catch. You'd have to ask him that.

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<v Speaker 2>But we did have a great time and and we

0:22:39.119 --> 0:22:42.879
<v Speaker 2>love the camping. It was fun. Keith loves to camp.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh and he you know, to him, this was old

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<v Speaker 2>Home Week.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think Keith would be a good Golden Bachelor?

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<v Speaker 2>I have never thought about that. Yeah, he probably he could.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got the personal I think he could pull it

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<v Speaker 2>off if if, if they bring him, though, I'm coming,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be one of the contestants, just to just

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<v Speaker 2>to rile him up.

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<v Speaker 1>Gary, Gary, who is a hot commodity down there for

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, makes it just like a massive mistake in

0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:21.800
<v Speaker 1>the game, Like such a bad mistake. Why do you

0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:23.840
<v Speaker 1>think he like? Why do you think he did that?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I just give you a little backstreet humor here?

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<v Speaker 2>Keith and I are sitting there because we're in the bottom.

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<v Speaker 2>We are we're in jeopardy of going home. Or being

0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:39.080
<v Speaker 2>in the being voted off. And so Keith is looking

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<v Speaker 2>at me. He's giving the guy should be a sports announcer.

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<v Speaker 2>He's giving me a play by play of you know,

0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:45.480
<v Speaker 2>he needs to just bet this. And and so we're

0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:53.080
<v Speaker 2>watching Gary flipping. We are watching him flip the chips

0:23:53.280 --> 0:23:57.159
<v Speaker 2>chip thank you, and he's talking with with Jesse and

0:23:57.200 --> 0:24:00.160
<v Speaker 2>he's chit chatting about this and Keith and are look

0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:03.960
<v Speaker 2>at you, going, dude, put one chip up there. You're

0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:06.520
<v Speaker 2>you're at the top of the ladder here. You're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to win because you know somebody else had already

0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:12.399
<v Speaker 2>doubled their their chips. You're not going to win, but

0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:15.679
<v Speaker 2>you're here, here for the child. So when he started

0:24:15.680 --> 0:24:18.960
<v Speaker 2>flipping the chips and ever put out nine chips, I

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<v Speaker 2>looked at Keith and he looked at me. And when

0:24:20.320 --> 0:24:22.320
<v Speaker 2>I went and I think Keith looked at me and

0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:27.680
<v Speaker 2>said we're going to be safe. And I was stunned.

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<v Speaker 2>And I thought, and I will tell you Gary, after that,

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<v Speaker 2>his he wasn't quite so loud and in charge. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, out there, I think he really felt badly

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<v Speaker 2>about doing that to Leslie. I really because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Leslie had said to him uh. I think she had

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<v Speaker 2>said something like, you know, don't bet you had to

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<v Speaker 2>bet one chip, and and she had said if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't know the answer, And clearly he didn't know the answer,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I was stunned. But thank you Gary, because

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<v Speaker 2>it saved me.

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<v Speaker 3>It really did. His mistake actually potentially changed your entire

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<v Speaker 3>paradise past.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, going back to the camping date, you guys all

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<v Speaker 3>return from camping and they revealed that a therapist has

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<v Speaker 3>been watching all of your interactions. Yes, did her observations

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<v Speaker 3>about any of the couples surprise you?

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<v Speaker 2>Not one. I sat there. I actually went up to

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<v Speaker 2>her and said, you know, I'm not sure if you're

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<v Speaker 2>a fortune teller or I mean she hit everybody on

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<v Speaker 2>the on the on the hail on the head. And

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, I love what she said about Keith and

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<v Speaker 2>May She said, you too clearly have no romantic connection,

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<v Speaker 2>but such a deep and caring friendship. And I looked

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<v Speaker 2>at Keith and I went, wow, I mean she just

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<v Speaker 2>watched a few you know, she had watched all the

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<v Speaker 2>couples at the camp to have gleaned that much from

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<v Speaker 2>such a short view of what we were all doing.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, she hit everybody. Uh, I thought.

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<v Speaker 1>Perfectly, even Andrew and Alex, because she did. Andrew and

0:26:00.520 --> 0:26:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Alex don't have sexual chemistry. And know if I read.

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<v Speaker 2>That that was funny. You said that that was the

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<v Speaker 2>only thing, and I told her that after. I said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. I think you missed on that one.

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<v Speaker 2>But other than that, you're absolutely right. I think she

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<v Speaker 2>missed on that. I think there was I saw them.

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew and Alex were so cute together and laughing a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>You could just see the connection with them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I think if there's anywhere that's going to kill

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<v Speaker 3>sexual chemistry, it's camping in Kostriga with like a bajillion boby.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's also just cameras. You know, some people don't

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<v Speaker 1>some people just don't want to give that type of

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<v Speaker 1>energy on camera.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know. I loved it. I just it

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<v Speaker 2>was I honestly, when they said we're going for the night,

0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:47.600
<v Speaker 2>Keith and I were so disappointed that we didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>to spend the night.

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<v Speaker 3>Were you surprised that Dale and Kat won the competition?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I did not know until we were there that

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<v Speaker 2>how dreadfully afraid of bugs, cat Is and she I

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<v Speaker 2>was happy that they won. He was so kind to

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<v Speaker 2>her and she was really flipping out but giving it

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<v Speaker 2>her best shot. You know, I loved it. They were

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<v Speaker 2>near as I could kind of see what was going on,

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<v Speaker 2>and no, I think that was well deserved.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you surprised when Dale saved you and Keith over

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan and Leah?

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<v Speaker 2>Not really. I think that Jonathan had made it very

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<v Speaker 2>clear he was there for the money, so in that

0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:38.879
<v Speaker 2>sense he was a threat. But also, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>spent a lot of time talking with Dale. In fact,

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:44.359
<v Speaker 2>there's you saw a couple of scenes where he puts

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<v Speaker 2>his arm around me when we're sitting talking to Jesse

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<v Speaker 2>and my my. I was teasing him, saying, listen, if

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<v Speaker 2>things don't work out with you and Kat you're interested

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<v Speaker 2>in an older woman, I'm available. I just think he

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<v Speaker 2>is a great guy, and I think he appreciated our

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<v Speaker 2>input and our thoughts about what was going on. I

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<v Speaker 2>think he genuinely likes Keith and me.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you guys have? Do you and Keith have

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<v Speaker 1>a plan because you both you both know, but you

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<v Speaker 1>both don't want to take the money from the young uns.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do believe I do believe you when you

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:17.960
<v Speaker 1>say that, but like, do you have a plan if

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<v Speaker 1>you end up? Like, because you don't know how this

0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:22.639
<v Speaker 1>is all going to play out, Like what if you

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:25.600
<v Speaker 1>guys do win, Like what are you gonna do? Well,

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:27.760
<v Speaker 1>you may win the money, Like what if you accidentally

0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:28.359
<v Speaker 1>win the money?

0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, you but you can't accidentally win anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but like let's say, let's just say if if

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 1>it's you and another couple at the end, you know

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<v Speaker 1>it is a TV show, You're not gonna be able

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<v Speaker 1>to back out of the last competition, Like that would.

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<v Speaker 2>Be I mean they could, It's called a bank transfer.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty sure they see that.

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<v Speaker 3>We are creeping up on the finale of Bachelor in Paradise.

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<v Speaker 3>Looking back on this season, what were what was your

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<v Speaker 3>favorite moment or a few of your favorite moments.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, the camping was one of my favorite moments. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't just say one. Spending time with Keith, spending time

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<v Speaker 2>with the youngins, having food and alcohol at my You

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<v Speaker 2>know I had to say, was drink plays, spending seeing

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<v Speaker 2>wells again Jesse, I honestly I can't. Hannah, I loved

0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 2>her it truly for me. You didn't ask, but I

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 2>will tell you batchlor In Paradise was so much more

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<v Speaker 2>fun for me, and I felt like I came out

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<v Speaker 2>of it with so many great friends and relationships and

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:45.800
<v Speaker 2>much more fun than Bachelor was Golden Bachelor.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that. I'm so glad that you got the

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<v Speaker 3>chance to go on Paradise, and I feel like it

0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 3>allowed the audience to see like just new sides of

0:29:55.640 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 3>you that they didn't get to see on on the Battle.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that. I honestly always say this and I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it. If people get to I'm not I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's cup of tea, and I know.

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<v Speaker 1>That well, like even Serena, you weren't her cup of tea,

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, ser.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, let me just say, Serena, you would be a

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<v Speaker 2>perfect example. Once you get to know me, you typically

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<v Speaker 2>like me.

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<v Speaker 3>I do like you, Kathy.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember, you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>someone to pull up that that old tape.

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<v Speaker 3>Of youth, Kathy, and you're gonna realize it wasn't as

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<v Speaker 3>bad as what you think.

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:31.080
<v Speaker 2>And you know what I'm gonna do. I'm just gonna

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 2>make it in a loop. I'm gonna send it to

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 2>you and Joe's gonna play it for you. Before you

0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:38.640
<v Speaker 2>go to bed, You're gonna hear me saying every night, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't wait, I can't wait. I'm gonna make it my alarm.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll just all wake up to your voice every morning, Kathy,

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<v Speaker 3>or my own voice. That's actually way worse. I don't

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:46.000
<v Speaker 3>want to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Kathy, honestly, it was lovely talking to you again.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a lot of fun. Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for taking the time out of your day and hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with us.

0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:57.760
<v Speaker 2>Thanks thanks for having me. It's just always great to

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<v Speaker 2>see you guys. I hope I'll get to see you

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<v Speaker 2>in California at some point soon or come to Austin.

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Definitely, definitely, we are. Definitely. I'm definitely gonna go back

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<v Speaker 1>to Barton Omney Creek and golf.

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh. I'll go golfing with you. Your your handicap is

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<v Speaker 2>about mine. Will be a good team together, perfect. I

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<v Speaker 2>do cheat though.

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 1>You use the foot weedge, I'll use the hand wedge.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll drink in the cart, uh, Kathy, anything you want

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<v Speaker 1>to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, love you both. But I also have to say,

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:29.160
<v Speaker 2>if you haven't tuned in to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden

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