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Speaker 1: Oh, Steve taskerne Touchdown, touch Down, tech Down Time. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to One Bills Live Steve Tasker, and once again today

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Speaker 1: I'm joined by Chris Brown. He's an all week as

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Speaker 1: our guy John Murphy down in Mobile, Alabama. The Senior

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Speaker 1: Bowl continues and all the rumblings and tunnelings that head

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Speaker 1: towards Super Bowl fifty three year continuing around the National

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Speaker 1: Football League. Got a good show for you today. Murse

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Speaker 1: gonna come on with us about twelve thirty and do

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Speaker 1: a live talk back and we'll get his ideas and

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Speaker 1: thoughts about how things went yesterday. He didn't get a

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Speaker 1: But um, we're also gonna talk. He's gonna talk with

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Speaker 1: did an interview with Joe Shane, who is the assistant

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Speaker 1: general manager of the Buffalo Bills, and also Dan Morgan

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Speaker 1: is the director of player Personnel. Both those interviews are

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Speaker 1: gonna be on the show today at one and maybe

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Speaker 1: two o'clock respectively. Morgan in his first full offseason with

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Speaker 1: in the interview too, that Brownie, how's it going? Good

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Speaker 1: morning today, I mean good morning, good afternoon, sure. And

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Speaker 1: again today we're getting into a little bit of a routine.

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Speaker 1: I promise today I'll try and do better. We did.

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Speaker 1: We took zero phone calls yesterday. Yeah, you're really hard

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Speaker 1: on yourself, you know, I know, I know there's listen

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Speaker 1: you ever you get to look over there and there's

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Speaker 1: somebody on there who's been forty eight minutes, you know,

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Speaker 1: and you still haven't gotten to him, and it bothers me,

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Speaker 1: It bothers me. But you wouldn't be a very good telemarketer, No,

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Speaker 1: it would thank you for holding please hold sorry. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but we we also got we got a lot of

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Speaker 1: a lot of topics today. We kind of fight with

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Speaker 1: this time of year with the topics for the Twitter poll.

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Speaker 1: And and I'll admit it, I came up with this

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Speaker 1: one and I hope it. I hope it flies. The

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Speaker 1: Twitter poll of the day is what excites you? Hold on,

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Speaker 1: let me let me make sure I should want to

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Speaker 1: read it the example, want to word it properly exactly,

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Speaker 1: you know, you get properly. I've got to I've got

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Speaker 1: to sell it, tease it properly. And I'm having trouble. Fine, okay,

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Speaker 1: here we go. Here it is this is what it

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Speaker 1: says totally my idea. So if it's a success, I

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Speaker 1: can take it prettier. Well, the offseasons upon us. What

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Speaker 1: excites you more the free agent market, the ten draft

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Speaker 1: are out there with you know, draft picks, everybody else's

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Speaker 1: players that aren't available in free agency, but you can

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Speaker 1: get through a trade. Right now, fifty two percent of

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Speaker 1: you say free agency, thirty nine thirty nine percent says

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Speaker 1: nine percent of people say the trade market. That surprises me,

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Speaker 1: but there you go. Almost five hundred people have voted

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Speaker 1: and half of the people say free agency. I think

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Speaker 1: I think the other reason why it's so popular, or

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Speaker 1: because you know the names that are there. Same thing

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Speaker 1: think that's helping you get traded? That's that's telling every

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Speaker 1: You can talk about that as well. Both those championship

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Speaker 1: in two thousand what two is it two thousand and one,

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Speaker 1: And it's the one Adam Vinetary burst onto the scene

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Speaker 1: of that kind of stuff still happens in and around

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Speaker 1: You can roll the dice on a guy that maybe

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Right, that's the fun part

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Speaker 1: he's on our team. That kind of stuff is fun. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And you know, you try to look at what's been

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Speaker 1: some rent money here too. You know why I gotta Milano,

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Speaker 1: Dion Dawkins. Those are players that are coming up in

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Speaker 1: a year or two. Here, you got some guys lined

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Speaker 1: up that deserve contracts. And uh, you know, think about

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Speaker 1: this too. Micah Hy Jordan Poor are coming into the

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Speaker 1: third year of their five year deals. Yeah, you know so.

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Speaker 1: Dredavious White as you said, you got Tarn Johnson on

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Speaker 1: the burner. Now he's gonna you know, they liked what

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Speaker 1: Shack laws and he's up after Now a consideration from like,

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Speaker 1: all right, what are we gonna do with this guy? Now?

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Speaker 1: If you busts out again, Um, you spent some money

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Speaker 1: on Trent Murphy, you spent some money on Starlow two.

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Speaker 1: Lele uh. You've got some guys here you gotta start

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Speaker 1: thinking about saying, Okay, we gotta we gotta check them out.

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Speaker 1: So it's you can't just blow the cash just to say, hey,

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Speaker 1: we went out and did it, because you're gonna be

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Speaker 1: right back there in another which is essentially what Brandon,

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Speaker 1: which is essentially what Brandon Being said at the end

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Speaker 1: of the season. In that end of season press conference,

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Speaker 1: not only did he use the word judicious more than

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Speaker 1: one he also said, we don't want to spend so

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Speaker 1: foolishly that we're right back where we were two years ago.

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Speaker 1: This was a two year process to get out of

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Speaker 1: that mess. The last thing we want to do is

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Speaker 1: spend aggressively and foolishly and wind up in that same

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Speaker 1: spot in a very short period of time all over again. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we got to tweet from the tweet sheet from John

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Speaker 1: He says, exactly what we're talking about. Definitely, the draft

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Speaker 1: picks is what excites him more. Spending big and free

457
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Speaker 1: agency doesn't always translate into success on the field. Please

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Speaker 1: spend smart in free agency, Buffalo Bills. And he's right.

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Speaker 1: I mean that it comes down to that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk to Dan Morgan, the director of Player Personnel,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to the assistant GM, Joe Shane, We've

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Speaker 1: spoken to Brandon Bean already and Sean McDermott. It comes

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Speaker 1: down to this, brownie, and here's here's the NFL right here.

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Speaker 1: You gotta pick good players. Well, this just in well

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Speaker 1: that is I don't know if that's just in. That

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Speaker 1: is the core business of the team. Core business. And

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Speaker 1: then right behind it is player development. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: get him to play well, because it's not only about

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Speaker 1: getting the talent here, it's developing that talent and making

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Speaker 1: it even better once it gets there. And I think

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Speaker 1: that is one of the reasons we saw the coaching

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Speaker 1: changes that we did this this offseason by coach McDermott

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Speaker 1: because it was apparent to him that the development of

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Speaker 1: some of the young talent on this roster was not

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Speaker 1: on the proper course of progress and changes needed to

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Speaker 1: be made to fix that. And you know, these new

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Speaker 1: coaches that are coming on board, at least two of

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Speaker 1: the three positions being filled in Bobby Johnson and he Farwell,

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Speaker 1: are younger, energetic coaches that have a background of teaching

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Speaker 1: and learning. And I think, you know, the genuine and

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Speaker 1: even coach said this the other day in the media

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Speaker 1: interview earlier in the week in Mobile, he admitted, you know,

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Speaker 1: Heath Farwell, he's never been a full time position coach before.

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Speaker 1: He admits it is a risk, but he believes that

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Speaker 1: he can grow into that role and be a dynamic

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Speaker 1: special teams coordinator that can push that unit forward. And

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Speaker 1: he obviously thinks the same with Bobby Johnson. So it's

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Speaker 1: going to be interesting to see where the player development

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Speaker 1: goes in those two phases of the football team going

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Speaker 1: forward with those new guys on board. Absolutely, you're with

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown Steve Tasker on One Bills Live. We've got

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Speaker 1: John Murphy down in Mobile, Alabama. We're talking about what's

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Speaker 1: in store and what excites you about the offseason, whether

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Speaker 1: it's the trade market, the free agent market, or the

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Speaker 1: draft coming up. Fifty percent of you say it's the

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Speaker 1: free agency that's coming up with all the money that

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Speaker 1: the Bills have to spend. Forty one percent of you

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Speaker 1: say it's the ten draft picks that the Bills have

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Speaker 1: to use as currency or can use his currency. And

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Speaker 1: not only nine percent of you excited about the trademarket.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little bit surprised by that. In fact, that's

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Speaker 1: what I think. It surprises me, excite me more because

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Speaker 1: I've seen it happens. It happened a lot last year

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Speaker 1: with every team in the league, so you kind of

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Speaker 1: think maybe it's probably gonna happen again at some level. Um,

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Speaker 1: not for sure, but maybe possible. I mean there's I mean,

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Speaker 1: you can go any any bunch of different ways. I

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Speaker 1: mean you can go back to three years ago. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Bills were not expecting to have the opportunity to

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Speaker 1: acquire a player the caliber of Lashawn McCoy. But all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, the Eagles call and say, hey, we're

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Speaker 1: interested in moving Lashawn McCoy. Are you interested? Uh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: who do you want? You know what I mean. So

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Speaker 1: you don't know what's coming down the pike either, uh

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Speaker 1: and and even Brandon being mentioned this. With respect to

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Speaker 1: free agency, there are probably gonna be some cap casualties

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Speaker 1: around the league. So the current free agency pool as

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Speaker 1: it looks now could change pretty dramatically between now and

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Speaker 1: March fourteenth, when free agency opens. I mean, perfect example,

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Speaker 1: Chris Ivory gets cut by the Jaguars last year in February,

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Speaker 1: he's a ailble. In February, Bill sign him and he's

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Speaker 1: an important part of their running back contingent this past season.

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Speaker 1: So there are a whole bunch of different twists and

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Speaker 1: turns that could unfold between now in March fourteenth, now

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Speaker 1: in the end of April when the draft happens, and

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Speaker 1: the trademarket is a part of that as well. Here

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Speaker 1: with Steve Tasker and Chris Brown on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break John Murphy at the bottom

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Speaker 1: of the hour. He's from live from Mobile, Alabama. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk to Joe Shane, assistant GM and Dan Morgan,

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Speaker 1: the director of Player Personnel. Stay with us. This is

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health from One Bill's

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Speaker 1: Drive and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Lives Chief tasker along with Chris Brown's here

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Speaker 1: in our one Bill's Drive studios across from New Air

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Speaker 1: of Field. We are holding down the four where our

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Speaker 1: guy while our guy John Murphy is down in Mobile, Alabama.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go down to Mobile right now. John Murphy's

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Speaker 1: standing by. It's a much better weather day there in

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Speaker 1: Mobile then it has been sunshiny. Day is still a

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Speaker 1: little cold, I guess because Murf has got a big

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Speaker 1: park on. How you doing, Murf? How's the weather. That's

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Speaker 1: not a park. No, it's not a park at all.

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Speaker 1: It's forty three degrees. I just check because I knew

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Speaker 1: you'd be asking. It's a much better day though, finally

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Speaker 1: some sunshine forty three degrees. Yesterday was kind of a

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Speaker 1: mess rain all day. They had flooding around the area.

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Speaker 1: I think that's coming through here today even as a

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Speaker 1: matter of effect. So yesterdays, you know, they moved to

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Speaker 1: practices indoors over the University of South Alabama not too

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Speaker 1: far away. Practice indoors today for the first time in

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Speaker 1: a couple of days, are out here. We're at Ladin

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Speaker 1: People Stadium right in Mobile, La, Alabama. It's an interesting

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Speaker 1: place I was doing a little research today. Seventy year

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Speaker 1: old stadium opened up in nineteen forty eight, thirty three

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Speaker 1: thousand capacity. They'll probably get close to that for Saturday's

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Speaker 1: game two thirty kick off the Senior Bowl. They played

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Speaker 1: the Dollar General Bowl game here. You know you be

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Speaker 1: played Troy University here. Back on what it was, I

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Speaker 1: think the Friday after Thanksgiving, right, Alabama used to play here,

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Speaker 1: Believe it or not. The Crimson Tag used to play

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Speaker 1: one game a year here for about twenty years, from

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Speaker 1: nineteen forty eight through nineteen sixty eight. And here's a

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Speaker 1: trivia question for you, fellows. You can win some bar

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Speaker 1: bets with this one. Bear Bryant when his first game

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Speaker 1: ever is the Alabama coach right here at lad Peoples Stadium.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry he didn't win it. They lost. He coached

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Speaker 1: his first game for the Crimson Tide. Make sure you

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Speaker 1: get this right for the bar bet. Coached his first

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Speaker 1: game for the Crimson Tide right here. Nineteen fifty eight.

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Speaker 1: Alabama lost LSU right in the stadium. So again a

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Speaker 1: little trivia for you. You You can use that. But the

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowls been here since nineteen fifty one. Here again,

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Speaker 1: this year, the city of Mobile goes all out for

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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, even with a little bit of weather

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Speaker 1: delay yesterday, and of course thirty two NFL teams are here.

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Speaker 1: Even the Patriots and Rams have scouting representatives here. Their

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Speaker 1: coaching staff's not here. The Bills are here now. Yesterday

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Speaker 1: the Bills one of thirty two teams that officially they

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Speaker 1: were allowed two representatives each at the indoor practice yesterday,

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Speaker 1: So the Bill sent to and you can tell by

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Speaker 1: what the who the Bills are brought here today. They'll

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Speaker 1: have the full staff here today. But you can kind

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Speaker 1: of get the sense that their focus here at the

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, at least this part of the offseason, in

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Speaker 1: evaluating the senior talent is on offensive lineman. I think

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Speaker 1: they put a lot of emphasis on that. They brought

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Speaker 1: the new offensive line coach Bobby Johnson down here along

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Speaker 1: with the two coordinators and the new special teams coordinator.

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Speaker 1: Bobby Johnson's been here part of the Bill's contingent, and

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Speaker 1: they'll all get another chance today. Bobby Johnson, the rest

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Speaker 1: of the scouting self. I'll get a chance today to

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Speaker 1: take a look at the North practice, which starts at

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Speaker 1: about an hour from now. One thirty year time, followed

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Speaker 1: by the South team practice right out here at lad People's. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, Murph, how does that change?

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's got to be much better having those

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Speaker 1: guys outside where all these teams can get a look

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Speaker 1: at them. Was it a big It was a little

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Speaker 1: controversial yesterday with nobody getting to watch or I mean

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Speaker 1: it's got to be like almost a small college crowd

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Speaker 1: there when all those guys are actually standing there watching practice. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's at least a couple of thousand, you know people here, Matt,

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Speaker 1: want to say, three or four thousand people here during

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Speaker 1: the normal practice, probably be a little bit less here today. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's controversial, but I think teams

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Speaker 1: understood the weather made it an important for them to

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Speaker 1: get out, you know, to get inside and into a

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Speaker 1: covered practice facility. They wish they could have had more

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Speaker 1: their I team teams got it. They provided video to

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Speaker 1: all the teams after practice that practices were on television,

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Speaker 1: and I believe ESPN and NFL network and they provided

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Speaker 1: video to all the teams afterwards so they can get

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Speaker 1: a look at him. But when you asked around, and

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Speaker 1: I did ask around, especially with a lot of the

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Speaker 1: Bills people. They said the most important important aspect of

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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl for them still was the meetings at night,

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Speaker 1: and that was uninterrupted by the weather yesterday. They had

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Speaker 1: a number of players in for meetings last night. So

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Speaker 1: three straight nights, twenty twenty five meetings with some of

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Speaker 1: these prospects. They got a chance to talk to a

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Speaker 1: lot of them. I'm gonna be interesting today, fellows to

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Speaker 1: when we're gonna watch the North practice here in a

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Speaker 1: couple of minutes, about forty five fifty minutes from now,

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Speaker 1: and I want to take a look at some of

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Speaker 1: the offensive lineman. There's some interesting prospects on the offensive

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Speaker 1: line that will be involved in this North practice. A

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Speaker 1: guard from Wisconsin, Michael Dieter, who said a couple of

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Speaker 1: good moments here in the early part of it. Max Sharping,

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Speaker 1: guard from Northern Illinois. He's out here with a North

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Speaker 1: team in a few minutes. A guard from Wisconsin, bow

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Speaker 1: Bench Chnagel, who you know has been rumored to be

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Speaker 1: some of the Bills are interested in. He'll be out

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Speaker 1: here in the North practice in a minute or two.

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Speaker 1: Offensive tackle a Dalton Risner from Kansas State, a guy

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Speaker 1: mentioned by the Senior Owl organizers on the first night

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Speaker 1: here Monday night as a guy who's probably one of

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Speaker 1: the best offensive linemen here, Titus Howard. I talked about

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Speaker 1: him yesterday. He was a guy that I thought was

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00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: absolutely undressed by Montes Sweat. He was in a one

641
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: on one drill on Tuesday when we were here. But

642
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: he's getting pretty good marks for his work. Titus Howard.

643
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: He's from Alabama State. He's on the South team. He'll

644
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: be out here practicing a little bit later on today

645
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: on the South team. But a guy who I think

646
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: he's had some pretty good moments despite his struggles with

647
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: Montes Sweat. I think a lot of people are going

648
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: to struggle with Montes Sweat in the NFL. Even South

649
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: practice later today. Some interesting offensive line to keep an

650
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: eye on their guard Andre Dillard from Washington State or

651
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: I'm sorry tackle Andre Dillard from Washington State, regarded as

652
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: probably the best tackle prospect in this senior class and

653
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: guard from the South. Played right up the road in Alabama.

654
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: He played center at Alabama rossa Pierce Poker who has

655
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: had some good moments here for the first year practice.

656
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: So offensive line seems to be the focus for many

657
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: teams here, including the Bills. The Senior Bowl executive director

658
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: Jim Nagi said, there are some legitimate NFL prospects and

659
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: the interior offensive line hit this game like early round

660
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: draft prospects from the interior the offensive line. And you

661
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: think about the Bills needs and you guys can speak

662
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: to this. We know the Bills need offensive lineman, they

663
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: need wide receivers. They need much more than that, most

664
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: of it on the offensive line. But I'm just guessing,

665
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: and this is just hypothetical for me. I'm just guessing

666
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: if the Bills figure that the best offensive line prospects

667
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: might come to them in the draft this year, and

668
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: if they're looking at wide receivers, maybe they start to

669
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: look a little bit more in the free agent market.

670
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: Just my guests, no information. I mean, it's clear they

671
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: need a proven answer at the wide receiver position. They

672
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: have plenty of youth at that position already. You know,

673
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: obviously if you could get a veteran lineman too, you'd

674
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: want to do that. But if you believe in the

675
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: teaching and development skills of Bobby Johnson, you know, I

676
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: think you're all the more apt to, you know, make

677
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: use of some of your early draft choices onlineman, and

678
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: you know, Murphy, you mentioned a couple of these guys.

679
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: I mean, we get a chance to watch some live

680
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: feeds on social media of some of the practices and

681
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: obviously NFL networks covering it as well. A couple of

682
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: guys that we saw throwing people around. Risner, the kid

683
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: you mentioned already from Kansas State, I mean he's tossing people.

684
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: He's ragdalin people in one on ones. And then the

685
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: Mississippi State Center. El didn't I don't know how I

686
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: pronounce him the first name, but Eldon Jenkins from Mississippi State.

687
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: He's on that south roster there. He looks like he

688
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: handles himself in the pivot there pretty good too. Yes,

689
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: I saw that on Tuesday when we watched the practice

690
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: here Tuesday. Yeah, Elston Jenkins good size, not overwhelming size,

691
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: but good size and interior offensive lineman who did everything

692
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: they asked him to on Tuesday's practice. I didn't notice

693
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: so much watching on television yesterday. I was doing some

694
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: other stuff too while I was, you know, doing interviews

695
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: and stuff. But yeah, I noticed him Tuesday. I thought

696
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: he fit right in with the offensive line. Group seemed

697
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: to get a lot of reps in Tuesday's practice. He's

698
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: with the South squad out here later this afternoon. Maybe

699
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: we'll get another look at him today. You're right, he

700
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: was impressive. So so when you get to this place,

701
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: one of the things that would intrigue me if I

702
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: was there would be all and we've talked about it already,

703
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: the one on one battles. You want to see these

704
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: guys go up and be head to head with another guy.

705
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: You do it all that I did it when I

706
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: was playing as a wide receiver. You line up head

707
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: to head with a dB and you try and beat him. Uh,

708
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 1: what are some of the wide receivers because bump press

709
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: man to man is something they do in the NFL,

710
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: but not so much in college. So I think it's

711
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: even hard. It's hard for both these teams, you know,

712
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 1: sides of the ball to get used to it. Who

713
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: has excelled? What has anybody jumped out at you as

714
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: being all of a sudden really good at that right

715
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: off the bat. These wide receivers, I'm talking about NDBs,

716
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, yeah, well wide receiver especially the Deebo Samuel,

717
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: a guy that I talked about a little bit. I

718
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: believe yesterday a wide receiver from South Carolina who's just

719
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: got the right frame and the right size. He's not

720
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: he's not huge, but he's he's um, I don't know

721
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: how to put it. He's he's like an Is he

722
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: like an an quin Bolden kind of guy? Yeah, maybe

723
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: not quite as tall, but I'll tell you there's some

724
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: skills there too, And I was really impressed with him

725
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: with Deebo Samuel Samuel, I'm looking forward to seeing what

726
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: he can do today later today in the South practice,

727
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: there are a couple of interesting wide receiver prospects that

728
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: will come up here in a minute or two. In

729
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 1: the North practice. They're both under sized, but you try

730
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: to snink, all right, what role could this guy play?

731
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: A lot of people of Lake Andy Isabella from UMass

732
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: through his first couple of practices here this week. Again,

733
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 1: he's small, he's five nine, one hundred and eighty six pounds,

734
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: but you can see why people like him. He has

735
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: a kind of a quick step and a dimension and

736
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: escape dimension that allows him to break loose. And another

737
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: wide receiver at a short guy five eight, one hundred

738
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 1: to eighty pounds, Penny Hart from Georgia's state. Now, these

739
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: are you know, Massachusetts, Georgia State. These are not football powerhouses.

740
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: They are not These are not power five conferences schools,

741
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: but guys who might be able to do something here

742
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: and improve their draft stock. Those two, both of them small,

743
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: both of them need to demonstrate this week that they

744
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: can stand with these guys, these bigger corners that you're seeing.

745
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: There are a lot of big corners here too. No

746
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: name come to mind, but the corners all seem long

747
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: and tall, maybe a little bit more soon than in

748
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,959
Speaker 1: years past. But you make a good point, Steve, about

749
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: the drills, and yes they do teamwork here eleven on eleven.

750
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: You guys are familiar with that. But to me, the

751
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 1: most interesting and maybe the most important things to watch

752
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: are the individual individual drills. As you mentioned, Steve, you know,

753
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: watching wide receivers go up against defensive backs, who gets open,

754
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: who gets separation, who catches the ball when they do

755
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: get open? In the individual drills, and to be honest,

756
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: the individual drills O line versus D line, those to

757
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: me are critical, much more important than what you see

758
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 1: in teamwork. You know, face it, the teamwork is pretty basic, right,

759
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: I'm I'm watching Tuesday. They may have added a little

760
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 1: bit more to the playbook by today Thursday. But on Tuesday,

761
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: the practice we saw, the self practice, they probably had

762
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: four five plays. That's all they had, right, so each

763
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 1: quarterback could come in, each group would come in, run

764
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: those four or five and then they're replaced by somebody else.

765
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 1: They're not gonna have much more in their playbook by today,

766
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 1: two days later, so you don't get to see as much,

767
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: I don't think in the teamwork as you will in

768
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: some of the individual drills. Now the game on Saturday

769
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: another story. Yes, the playbook will be small, but you

770
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: know how games go. Stuff happens and people are forced

771
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: to make plays, you know, kind of off the grid

772
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: a little bit. But in these practices, I find the

773
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: individual drills, as you mentioned, even it's very good point.

774
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: Individual drills wide receiver versus defensive backs, old line versus

775
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: D line. I find those to be the most instructive

776
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: and maybe the thing you can learn the most from.

777
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: I know, Murph that we're going to hear your interview

778
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: with Joe Shane at the top of the hour here

779
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: that you conducted with the Bill's assistant GM. Anything that

780
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: you took primarily from that conversation. I mean, I found

781
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: it interesting that, you know, he's talking about those interview

782
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: settings again, which are so critical in terms of knowing

783
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: the character of the player as much as the talent level.

784
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 1: What kind of what did you pull from your time

785
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: with him? Yeah, a lot. We talked to Joe yesterday.

786
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: As you said, you've got the interview coming up a

787
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: little bit later on today's. It struck me how prepared

788
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: this group is, this personnel group. By the time they

789
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: get here. You know, this is not right. Guys sitting

790
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: in the stands saying oh look at that, Oh look

791
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: at that. They're looking exactly at what they want to

792
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: look at. They've identified the players they are most interested

793
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: and focusing on them, and they all have assignments. As

794
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean said, they assigned one of their personnel folks

795
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: to the sideline to keep an eye on what's going

796
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: on down there and the interaction between players down on

797
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: the sidelines. But it's not just you know, come in,

798
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: eyes wide open and see what you see. They know

799
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: exactly what they're looking for, and the level of preparation

800
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: that the personnel department comes here with that impressed me

801
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 1: and I got a sense of them talking to Joe

802
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: Shane yesterday. Also the preparation for the interview sessions, right,

803
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: and they don't fool around. They pepper these guys with questions.

804
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: They know exactly where they want the line of questioning

805
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: to go. They don't waste any time, and they get

806
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: in the room spend about twenty twenty five minutes with them,

807
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: I think Joe told us, and they fire questions at them,

808
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: mostly football, but also a little bit of background. What

809
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: do you like to do, where do you come from?

810
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: How much do you like football? That sort of thing.

811
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: The level of preparation that the scouting staff comes here

812
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: with impressed me. And their flexibility. I think they're already

813
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: if someone catches their eye at one of these practices,

814
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: or if there's a buzz about a player, they're ready

815
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: to shift gears and take a look at them too.

816
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: And I find I find that pretty impressive by the

817
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: personnel staff. One last thing I want to talk to

818
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: you about, URF, and it is this, certainly the Senior

819
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: bowls on the front burner and all the executives and

820
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: top personnel people when the bills are down there. We've

821
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 1: got this Twitter poll though how likely do you think

822
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: it is? Sitting down there and you see how important

823
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: these draft picks are. The Bills have ten of them.

824
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: But last year and the year before, we have seen

825
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: the NFL evolve into a trade draft day trade kind

826
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: of league where it's it's established players and draft picks

827
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: and you know, contracts and cash move players around. How

828
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: likely do you think it is that the Bills end

829
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: up with ten draft picks this year? Yeah, it's a

830
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: good question. I actually asked Brandon Bean that the other day.

831
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: I asked him, do you view those ten picks as

832
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: ten players or do you view them as ten assets?

833
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: And he said assets. Definitely. We view them as ten

834
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: opportunities to either get players or package a few what

835
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: maybe you get a different player, a better player, or

836
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: move up in the draft somewhere. He viewsed them as

837
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: a ten what he called him pieces of capital, right,

838
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: draft capital they have. So we'll see. They might not

839
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: wind up with ten, but I'm pretty sure they're interested

840
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: in getting at least a seven or eight out of

841
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: the draft this year. And the important I saw your

842
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: poll and if I tried to vote, and I guess

843
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 1: I'm ineligible. I'm not eligible for the fifty fifty drawing

844
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: at the game day either, But that's okay. But I

845
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 1: would vote, and maybe it's just being here this week.

846
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: I would definitely vote for the draft, and not just

847
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 1: this year for the Bills. I think good. And I

848
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: saw a quote from somebody in the league this morning

849
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: who said, yeah, free agency is good, but we prefer

850
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: the draft. You know, the draft is where it's at

851
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: because you get these players on a manageable contract, you

852
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: get them in your team, into your culture, coming right

853
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: out of college. You can find out what kind of

854
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 1: person there, what kind of player they are, and development

855
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: and then decide whether to keep him after four or

856
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: five years. And I think that's probably the way to go,

857
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: the way that most successful teams want to go. And

858
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: I was happy to hear Brandon Bean say that was

859
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: his philosophy too. I think that's my philosophy. I hope

860
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: I'm not colored just by the fact that I'm down

861
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 1: here at the Senior Bowl looking at all these potential

862
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: draft picks. And I know free agency is important, and

863
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 1: let's face a, free agency is fun right when it's

864
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: an open market. It's an open auction for players who

865
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: are eligible for free agency. But it's just not the

866
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: smartest or best way to build a team. I don't

867
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: think it's much better to build a team through the

868
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: draft and to have control over who you get and

869
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: who you want, and they have control over their salary

870
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: for the first couple of years of their contract. I

871
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: think that's the way to go. Before you let him go, Steve,

872
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: I have one assignment free, murf I need you to

873
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: just keep an eye on one guy for me, the

874
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: law firm, Jacoby Meyers, that wide receiver from NC State.

875
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people project him as a

876
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: slot receiver, and maybe the Bills already feel they have

877
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 1: that role field with Zay Jones. But I mean, there's

878
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: a guy that broke Tory Holtz records at NC State

879
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 1: wide receiver, NC State, Jacoby Meyers, the law firm. Let's

880
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: keep an eye on him today. Yeah, I will. He's

881
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: on the North team. They should be winding up out

882
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: here in the next few minutes. I'll look for him.

883
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: I've just looked up at his numbers here. He's a

884
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: good size six two six two. That's good size. All right,

885
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: thanks Murphy. I appreciate it, all right, man, appreciate you.

886
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: Have a good time watch practicing. Give us some more

887
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: stuff tomorrow. Appreciate it. John Murphy down at Mobile, Alabama

888
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. Good stuff there, and it looks

889
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of a breath of fresh air

890
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: after you get in there for a first couple of

891
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: days you're still trying to find yourself. Plus yesterday and

892
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: then now they're turning around heading home today. They'll be

893
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: done after today. Yeah, right, and it's it's it's kind

894
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: of good to finish off on a high note like that.

895
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 1: I hope with the weather we got back here, they

896
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: can get back in no kidding. Well, all right, we're

897
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 1: gonna take a break. One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive.

898
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. More coming up at the

899
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 1: top of the hour. We've got assistant GM Joe Shane

900
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: and the Buffalo Bills. Stay with us. It's One Bills

901
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: Live on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live.

902
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker along with Chris Brown, John Murphy joining us

903
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: from Mobile, Alabama. Just a minute ago. We're talking about

904
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: the draft and some of the cool guys. It's all

905
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: fun games now. When you get a pick and Windows

906
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: shop for all the new players that the Bills might get.

907
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: And we also have a Twitter poll what excites you

908
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 1: the most about this offseason, free agency, the draft picks.

909
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: Of you say free agency, forty two percent say ten

910
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: draft picks, and eight percent say the trade market possibility.

911
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 1: We also have some callers on the line. I promise

912
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: you i'd try and take some calls today. I'm going

913
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: to do that. We're gonna go to Dennis and Clarence. Dennis,

914
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: you want to talk about probably the officiating in the

915
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: championship round of the playoffs, don't you. The comment I'd

916
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: like to make is about that is that you know,

917
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: the NFL over the past few years has made a

918
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: lot of changes trying to improve the game through safety

919
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: rules and stuff, and the quality officiating, as we all know,

920
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: has gone down. And I don't see anything addressed there

921
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: by the NFL or the owners. Now what I'd like

922
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: to know, and I guess this is just ecothetical questions.

923
00:43:55,239 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 1: How many games have been determined just this year, the

924
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: outcome of the games by bad calls or no calls.

925
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: Let me just remind you, Dennis, one hundred percent of them.

926
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: So we agree. But what I'd like to know is

927
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 1: there's thirty two billionaires that own these teams. Yeah, when

928
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: are they going to address this problem? When are they

929
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: going to go after it and really try to make

930
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: some quality improvements when it negatively impacts their wallet. Here's

931
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: the thing. Yeah, they'll do it when it starts to

932
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: cost some money. But here's the thing, Dennis, Don't don't

933
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: kid you. Just because you had a guy blow a

934
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: call in a big game. Don't don't think that they

935
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: haven't been diligent about not only investing money in it,

936
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: but also trying to Here's the thing. Not only investing

937
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: money in the officiating department, they also remember they brought

938
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: like sixty five guys on full time this year for

939
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 1: the first time ever. Also, the game gets more and

940
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: more and more complicated as years go by, and the

941
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: officials are sitting there, you know, trying to do it.

942
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: A big issue with even the kickoff rules this year.

943
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: Although it seems simple when we watch it because hey,

944
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: everything's a touchback, they've got contingencies and they know what

945
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: happens if it isn't a touchback. If all this crazy

946
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: stuff happens, these officials are on top of it and

947
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: ready to call it when it does, and all of

948
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: it's new, and part of the big issues when they

949
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: change those kickoff rules was talking through every single scenario

950
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: that could possibly happen unintended consequences. So don't think the

951
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 1: league is laying down saying, ah, nobody cares about these

952
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: bad calls. They care, I think, but there's only so

953
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: much they can do about it. Now. They're not going

954
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: to go back and replay that game. They're not going

955
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: to go back and redo a call. They're not going

956
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: to go back and line these teams up again, and

957
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: they're probably not going to open up the can of

958
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: worms of making every play reviewable every time this happens

959
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: to any team in the league, and believe me, it

960
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 1: has happened to thirty two teams around the National Football League.

961
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: All thirty two teams can go back and point to

962
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: at least one, if not a dozen, spots where an

963
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 1: officials call has cost them the game. This latest one

964
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: is just the latest one. If the Saints think they

965
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: got stabbed in the back more by the officials than

966
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: the other thirty two teams have been, other thirty one

967
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: teams have been stabbed in the past, get in line, Yeah,

968
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. I'm I was as bummed

969
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: as anybody. I was as shocked by that call as anybody.

970
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: But come on, I think that the overriding problem here

971
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: in reference to is it Dennis Dennis's call is the

972
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: league has tried to take steps to address some issues,

973
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: but I think the general consensus on the part of

974
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 1: the public and fans of the NFL is that their

975
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: efforts have been tweaks, not sweeping change, And I think

976
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: making tweaks is easier than the sweeping change. I think

977
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: one of the most dramatic ways they can change the

978
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: officiating is through technology, which was my stance on yesterday's show.

979
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: Technology has advanced to a point where you can use

980
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: that to room move the human error that in many

981
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: instances is the cause of these problems and consternation and

982
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: uproar over how the game is policed. So use the

983
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 1: technology when it's there to be utilized to remove as

984
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: much human error as possible in the areas of the

985
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: game where it's practical, and thereby improve the product and

986
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: improve the officiating because there's less human error involved. Dennis,

987
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: you got something else? Hang up? Go ahead, Go ahead, Dennis,

988
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: this is a fifty third Super Bowl coming up. Yeah,

989
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: It's just my feeling, and I know it's a lot

990
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: of people feel the same way. We have two teams

991
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: in the super Bowl that shouldn't be there for the

992
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 1: first time. I believe in the super Bowl history, and

993
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: I've watched every one of them, and I'll hang up

994
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: and get to your cat. Wait. Wait, why don't you

995
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: think the Patriots. I get why the Rams may not

996
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: want to be there because they got there. They were

997
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: a benefit of a bad call. Why not the Patriots?

998
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: Because I think there was bad calls, a lot of

999
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: blatant calls in that game. They weren't Oh really, okay,

1000
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: all right, all right, Dennis. I'm sorry you feel that way,

1001
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: but there you go. I mean, I I don't agree

1002
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: that with the page. It's a little strong for me. Yeah,

1003
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: I think it's a little strong too. And and there's

1004
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: no question that the the New Orleans Saints were the

1005
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,919
Speaker 1: beneficiary of some pretty egregious misses just before the past

1006
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: interference call as well. You can go back and do it.

1007
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 1: The game's complicated, there's just no way around it, and

1008
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: you got to kind of live with some of what

1009
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 1: you get. Let's take another call, Gary from Grand Island.

1010
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: Gary gentlemen, how are you doing. We're doing great. What's

1011
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: on your mind? Good? I just had a question on

1012
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: something that Chris said about twenty what is five minutes

1013
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: ago regarding unless you have it in your heart, become

1014
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: the best that you could be. These guys are going

1015
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: to be dusted off, right? What do you have to

1016
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: say about that? And I'm saying maybe there's six or

1017
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 1: eight guys that don't be wrong on the bills, there's

1018
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: room for them two to perform. But I just, um,

1019
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: I just I'm a hockey player, right, And and there's

1020
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: a guy that both of you guys are familiar with,

1021
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: Wayne Gretzky, Right, go ahead. He had it in his

1022
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: heart from the time he was six years old. A

1023
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: lot of these players and Gary, Gary, Gary, and Gary

1024
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 1: get to the point, go ahead. My question was what

1025
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: what how many of these players that graduate from UM

1026
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: their third year school and UM in college football? And

1027
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: and how many of them I was gonna progress? And

1028
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: and and are those scouts, those have a lot of scouts,

1029
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: they're going to recognize those players. Are they're going to

1030
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 1: give them? Wow? I mean that's good. Yeah, that's the

1031
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: exact sciences of the draft. You're never gonna be perfect.

1032
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: I mean you gotta if you engaging the success of

1033
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: an NFL personnel staff. With respect to the draft, you

1034
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: have to treat it like a major league batting average.

1035
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: If you can bat three hundred, you're doing pretty good.

1036
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: If you bat four hundred, you're outstanding. And that's the

1037
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: range of excellence with the draft in general, in terms

1038
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 1: of the hit rate on really kind of building your rust.

1039
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: And the problem is this, everybody's picking from the same

1040
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: pool of guys, and it's like a regular society. There

1041
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: are a certain number of people that you can count

1042
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: on that are a good kids. They're gonna be you know,

1043
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna pay their red, they're gonna be in the

1044
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,479
Speaker 1: right space, they're gonna be on time, they're gonna work hard.

1045
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: They're there for the right reasons. They want to do

1046
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: it the right way and want to be the best.

1047
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: And then there's right they want to be the best.

1048
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: And then there's a certain percentage people that were in

1049
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: it for the money. They're in it because it's the

1050
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 1: next thing they want to do. They're in it because

1051
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: they don't even know what they'd do if they didn't

1052
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: play football. I mean, Mario Williams was maybe one of

1053
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: the most talented players in the last twenty years to

1054
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: play in the NFL, but he didn't have it in

1055
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: his heart. There wasn't a passion to play football. He

1056
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: played because he could make a lot of money and

1057
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: he was pretty darn talented and was good enough to

1058
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: do it. But he's not a guy that's going to

1059
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: be going out there playing for a half a million dollars.

1060
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: He didn't love the game enough. He didn't have a

1061
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: passion to play the game the way a guy like

1062
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: Kyle Williams did. So, you know, but he's super talented.

1063
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: He can help your football team. He can get your

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00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: fourteen sacks a year. So on a roster where you

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00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 1: have a lot of guys that are doing the right thing, yes,

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00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: there might be room for two or three guys that

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00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: are ultra talented that can be pulled along with those

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00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 1: good eggs in your locker room and perform for you.

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00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: So there are exceptions, I think it was what he

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00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: was asking, Can there be some exceptions? Well, there is,

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00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: and that's what they you know. They every club's got

1072
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: some guys on it that they always like. Lorenzo Alexandros

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00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 1: says It's always gonna be guys in your roster who

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00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: operate in the gray The question is do you have

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00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: the leadership that can pull them along to do the

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00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: right things most of the time and pull them out

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00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: of that gray area. Dan Morgan, the director of player Personnel,

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00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 1: coming up at the top of the hour. He's at

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00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: He's going to be in a recorded interview with our

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00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: John Murphy right at the top of the hour. Right

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Speaker 1: after this break you're watching. You're listening to One Bills Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive. And this

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Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio. Hello Bills Radio Network. Sports Update.

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Speaker 1: The Jets announced yesterday that they hired former Dolphins offensive

1085
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: coordinator Dole Logins as their offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach.

1086
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: Logins is the fourth Jets offensive coordinator in four years

1087
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: and will join former Dolphins head coach Adam Gase in

1088
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: New York. Gayson Logins have worked together in Chicago in

1089
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen and in twenty eighteen with the Dolphins. The

1090
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 1: Anthers signed linebacker fa Ovada to a one year contract

1091
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: through the twenty nineteen seasons. Obada, who was born in

1092
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: Nigeria but has lived most of his life in London.

1093
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,240
Speaker 1: Made history in August of twenty eighteen when he became

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00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: the first player to make an active roster through the

1095
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: NFL International Pathway Program. He finished this past season with

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00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: eight tackles, including two sacks, and six quarterback pressures in

1097
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: ten games. Steelers president Art Rooney the Second said yesterday

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00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: that the team is working on a contract extension for

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00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger. Roethlisberger has one year left on his contract

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00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: with a salary cap hit of twenty three point two million,

1101
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 1: with a base salary of twelve million and a five

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00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: million dollar roster bonus due in March. The Houston Rockets

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00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: beat the Knicks at Madison Square Garden last night one

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00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: fourteen one ten. James Harden scored a career high sixty

1105
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: one points and hit the thirty point mark for his

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00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: twenty first straight game. Harden made the clinching layup with

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00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: three point eight seconds remaining after the Knicks turned it over,

1108
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 1: capping his fifth fifty point game this season. The UBI

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00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: Bulls are at Kent State tomorrow night at six thirty pm.

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00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: They're looking to bounce back after dropping their first conference

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00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: game of the season to Northern Illinois seventy seven seventy

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00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: five on Tuesday. The Bulls are now seventeen and two

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00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 1: overall and five and one in the MAC. The Sabers

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00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: are still on the All Star break. All Star Weekend

1115
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,240
Speaker 1: in San Jose begins tomorrow with the twenty nineteen NHL

1116
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,720
Speaker 1: All Star Skills Challenge tomorrow night at nine pm Eastern.

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00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: The twenty nineteen Honda NHL All Star Game is on Saturday,

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00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: beginning at eight pm Eastern Time. Captain Jack Eichel and

1119
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: Jeff Skinner will represent the Sabers at All Star Weekend.

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Speaker 1: That's your sports update, Brady. We had We took a

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00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: couple of calls last and I promised I would take

1122
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: some calls this you know this show. But in doing

1123
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: so I got distracted and inadvertently teased that we were

1124
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: going to talk to Dan Morgan, director of Player Personnel,

1125
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: at the top of the hour. We're not. We're going

1126
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 1: to talk to assistant GM, Joe Shane. You don't think

1127
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: less of me, do you? I don't. I know? Well,

1128
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: I know you could not possibly think less of me, right,

1129
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: I know You're I didn't say that you did, I

1130
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: know you. I know your battles with the schedule. That's right.

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00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: Our guy John Murphy is down in Mobile, Alabama, has

1132
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: been all week and he got a chance to talk

1133
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: with most of the Bill's brass Assistant GM Joe Shane

1134
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: joins him now in Mobile, here's Murph. Hey, welcome back

1135
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: with the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Alabama. John Murphy with

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00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 1: a special guest, the assistant general manager of the Buffalo Bills,

1137
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: Joe Shane, is with us. We do a show every

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00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: day about three hundred yards from where you're working. Ever

1139
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: been on the show? What's going on with it? You've

1140
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 1: been dodging us? Uh, you know I'm three hundred yards away.

1141
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: I have not gotten the invite, So as soon as

1142
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: I get one, which I got one to day, here

1143
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 1: i am. There have been plenty of invites. Let me

1144
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: tell you that. Hey, thank you for joining us here

1145
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: on the show today. I want to ask you about this. Um,

1146
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:47,959
Speaker 1: you look at them with the word of this team

1147
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 1: is at six wins, and yet everywhere you go, even

1148
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 1: here in Mobile, other NFL people say almost the same thing.

1149
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: All right, you won six games, but boy, you're really

1150
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: putting in the right direction. It's got to be encouraging.

1151
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: When you get that you probably got a two from people, right. Yeah, absolutely,

1152
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: Obviously we're excited we have a good young core in place.

1153
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: We thought we had a successful draft last year with

1154
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: Josh Tremaine. Obviously, both of those guys played well down

1155
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: the stretch. Harrison Phillips, Tarn Johnson was doing a good

1156
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 1: job up until he went on. Ir Wyatt Teller got

1157
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: a lot of reps. And then you look at the

1158
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: some of the rookie free agents that played for us.

1159
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: So I think we have a young core in place,

1160
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 1: and year two, I think we'll just be that much better,

1161
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 1: and those guys will kind of know what to expect

1162
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 1: when they come into camp, and they'll have the playbook.

1163
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: We're gonna have continuity with both coordinators, which is important,

1164
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 1: I think. So as we move forward to next year's camp,

1165
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 1: I think those guys will, you know, even be that

1166
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: much better. This came up this week here in Mobile.

1167
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: How five of your draft picks last year and you

1168
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: throw in Levi Wallace an undrafted free agent. Six of

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00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: them we're here in Mobile. You must have got your

1170
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: first introduction to that group really year your personel department. Yeah, absolutely,

1171
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: this is a great opportunity for us, not only to

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00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:55,280
Speaker 1: spend time with the kids with individual meetings, but watching

1173
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: how they compete against their peers. You know, we get

1174
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: the practice film, we get to be down on the field,

1175
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: We get to see how they compete, how they respond

1176
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: to getting beat, how they respond to success. And it's

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00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 1: really important and that those are you know, those guys

1178
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: were guys that we got our eyes on, we got

1179
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: to visit with, and we had targeted, whether it was

1180
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: throughout the draft or you know after the draft in

1181
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,919
Speaker 1: college for agency, you recall with Josh Allen, your first

1182
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: rounder last year, do you recall any observations you or

1183
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: your staff may have made about him here in mobile

1184
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, Well, that was the first time we

1185
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: got to talk to him. We had studied him up

1186
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,439
Speaker 1: and down. I saw him play live twice and spent

1187
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: you know, full games except for one game he had

1188
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: got hurt, the Air Force game, but watched the full

1189
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: game at Utah State and then coming and coming and

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00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: see him here, how how we measured up against his peers,

1191
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: and then we got to put him on the dry raceboard,

1192
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: watch film with them, talk with him and interview him.

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00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: And that's when his personality really started to come out

1194
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: and you could see his competitiveness on the field throughout

1195
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: the week of practice, his presence, and then when you

1196
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: would ask other players about him. When you're interviewing guys,

1197
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: any of these quarterbacks stand out, anybody have command of

1198
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: the huddle. Josh Allen was a name that consistently came

1199
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: up in those conversations. You know, it's only a year ago,

1200
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,479
Speaker 1: but I'm guessing that at that point, a year ago

1201
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: this week, he was not decided upon as your guy. Right,

1202
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: probably got a favorable impression, but nothing was decided a

1203
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: year ago, not decided, but he was a He was

1204
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: a guy we were definitely high on and we definitely

1205
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: liked and I remember a couple of couple passes during practice,

1206
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: She's like, it's really good. Stop stop doing it. So

1207
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: you went from let's see it too, let's not see anymore? Yeah, yeah,

1208
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: in same with Baker, and then there were a lot

1209
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: of good quarterbacks, you know, in the game last year,

1210
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: but you know, we obviously had our favorites, and not

1211
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: that you wish that they they don't perform well, but

1212
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: we were at twenty one and twenty two at the time,

1213
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: so again we were still trying to figure out how

1214
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: we're going to go to get up and get one

1215
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: of those guys. Josh. It's been said I wasn't not

1216
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: here last year, but it's been said that Josh got better,

1217
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: that maybe wasn't so good the Tuesday practice. By the

1218
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: end of the week and especially the game on Saturday,

1219
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl game, he got better. Did you see that? Yeah?

1220
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: And I always give a little leeway to the quarterbacks.

1221
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: You know, the first guy that's up at six four,

1222
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: two hundred pounds and he's not very fast. The next

1223
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: guy's five nine, one hundred and eighty and he's quick.

1224
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: So you're you're timing with these players and their understanding

1225
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: of the offense. It's the first day you're going out there,

1226
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: first time you're throwing to these guys. So I expect

1227
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: most of those guys to continue get it better and

1228
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: then some guys. You know, Josh's bowl game was one

1229
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: of the earlier ones, so he hadn't been in pads

1230
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,919
Speaker 1: and played football in a while, whereas the Alabama guys

1231
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: they just got done a couple of weeks ago. So

1232
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: you kind of give the quarterbacks, especially a little bit

1233
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: of leeway. As the week goes on and progresses you

1234
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: expect them to get a little bit better. You get

1235
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: him in the meeting room last year, and now you're

1236
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: doing similar meetings this year with draft prospects. Is that

1237
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 1: the most important part of this week here? Yeah, it

1238
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 1: really is. I mean, obviously it's a combination of that

1239
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: and how they perform on the practice field and how

1240
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: they compete against their peers. But also, you know, we're

1241
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: fortunate that our coaches are into the process and they

1242
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: like to come down here and sit in on the

1243
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: interviews with us, so we get an exposure to the

1244
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: player in the meeting rooms, and our coaches also are

1245
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: able to see what the kids can learn football wise,

1246
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: how they are, you know, in terms of personality, so

1247
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: it's not their first exposure to them when we get

1248
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: into draft meetings. Thanks for your questions about that. I'm

1249
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: wondering how long is the typical meeting with one of

1250
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: these players here in Mobile. We try to keep it

1251
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: to about twenty minutes. Again, we try to get as

1252
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: many players as we can, but it ends up being

1253
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: about twenty minutes. Some players go a little bit longer.

1254
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: Some guys we were good kids, and you know they'll

1255
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: be in there in ten fifteen, minutes, we'll get them

1256
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: out of there because they kind of confirm what we

1257
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: already know about them. Are there some standard questions that

1258
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 1: you ask virtually everyone in there. Yeah, we'll get to

1259
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: know their family, you know, ask about their family background,

1260
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: kind of icebreaker type questions, where you're from, you know,

1261
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: hobbies outside of football, and then we'll get right into

1262
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: the xs and os. And when you get into xs

1263
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: and os, do they stand up and go to the

1264
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: board and diagram stuff and talk some do and then

1265
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: otherwise what we do is we bring some film down

1266
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: here from their college, their senior year, our juniors if

1267
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: their juniors, and then the coaches will kind of walk

1268
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: through different plays, different scenarios, formations, and have them regurgitate

1269
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 1: some of their information from their school. So some coaches

1270
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: and scouts in there, and the player leaves the room,

1271
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Speaker 1: and then what do you discuss? Everybody keep their own council,

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01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 1: keep their own notes, whatepp. We keep our own notes

1273
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 1: because like speed dating, as soon as one goes out

1274
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 1: of the room, there's another guy coming in. So it's

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Speaker 1: kind of at the end of the night, we'll kind

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01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: of sit back and you know, throughout the next day

1277
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: we'll talk about some interviews from the day before, but

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01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: usually plus minus equal and then you know, to take

1279
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: down notes and we keep moving and is there a

1280
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: report that goes out with the observations of the group

1281
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 1: or you just know in the back of your mind

1282
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: that's a guy that said this, that's a guy that

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01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: said that. Yeah, well, we'll typically type that. The scouts

1284
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 1: will type it in the you know, our scouting system,

1285
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 1: and then we'll revisit the information in February before the

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01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: combine when we have meetings. Do it all over again

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Speaker 1: in February, do it all over again in February. John

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01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 1: Murphy along with Joe Shane, assistant gym of the Buffalo

1289
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 1: Bills down in Mobile, Alabama. Anything you take away from that,

1290
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting to see what all these people

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01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: who call in the show. We've had a couple of

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Speaker 1: calls already like don't they find don't they as it? Well?

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01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: That tells you exact they ask them find out everything

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01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: they can well, and they have. I think it's the

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01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: most interesting thing I take from that is how narrowed

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01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: down they have it already in January. I mean, he

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01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: pretty much admitted that Josh was one of their top

1298
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 1: quarterback considerations the last week in January or a third

1299
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: week in January, not in April. The only quarterback you

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01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 1: mentioned also is what Baker was Baker well down there?

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01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: Those were the top two guys last year. Clearly, you know,

1302
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen didn't go there. Did Darnold go there? Last year?

1303
01:01:56,560 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 1: Donald was not there because Donald was an underclassman, so

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01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: you know, so those guys were not there. I mean,

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01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 1: I think Darnold was probably in the group of the

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01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: guys that they really liked. But it was very I

1307
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 1: thought it was very telling that they pretty much have

1308
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 1: guys marked. And then it's almost as if even the

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01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl is the avenue that they travel to basically

1310
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: confirm or check boxes like this is what we thought check.

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01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: You know, this is what we thought check. And it's

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01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 1: only it seems like the Senior Bowl and then the

1313
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 1: Combine even a month later, is the confirmation process. They've

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01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: done all their work in the fall, they have a

1315
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: rundown of guys they feel are fits for their team,

1316
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 1: and they're using the Senior Bowl, the Combine, pro days,

1317
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 1: if necessary, personal visits, you know, to the facility here

1318
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: and one bills drive to simply confirm what they already

1319
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: believe and which I think might run counter to how

1320
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 1: people think it's done, because they've got their ideas and

1321
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: they pretty much have a smaller pool of all of

1322
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: these prospects in the draft pool already targeted, you know,

1323
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: going into mid to late January. I think most people

1324
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 1: and me included, you can chime in on this too.

1325
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 1: I think most people listening to us and having a

1326
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 1: sense of this, I think you're surprised at how few

1327
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 1: surprises there are. Yeah, you know, for them, for the

1328
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: personnel peers people they know these guys, there's no surprise.

1329
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 1: I think it's a shock when they get like what

1330
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: wait wait, whoa whoa, whoa wait, what happened here? Well,

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01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 1: that's that's what I almost never happened. That's what I

1332
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: always love about these draft gurus, you know that you

1333
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 1: read on the internet and everything. They're like, oh, this

1334
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 1: guy is a late riser. Well he's a late riser

1335
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: to all the draft gurus that you know didn't do

1336
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 1: the same homework that the actual personnel people did in

1337
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 1: the fall. It's not a late riser for the people

1338
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: in the fall they had that guy. You know, there

1339
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 1: might be a small school guy that that jumps on

1340
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 1: the radar late, you know, or an underclassman that they

1341
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: didn't have time to do the work on because their

1342
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: time is so invested in the seniors who they know

1343
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: are coming out. You know, there might be instances there,

1344
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 1: you know, but we're talking about what a handful. A

1345
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 1: handful for the personnel people in the league. For these

1346
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 1: draft coups' is like, oh, this guy is now a

1347
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 1: second round pick. He was a fifth round or a

1348
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 1: month or no he wasn't. Not for the majority of

1349
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 1: the league, they don't miss on these guys. They know

1350
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: what they are. And that's why you get all this

1351
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 1: guy's project a third round, fourth round, fifth round, whatever,

1352
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 1: and this team had him into third round. And the

1353
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 1: reason is because the reason they usually get disparaging evaluations

1354
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 1: about these guys is one thing, we know something you don't,

1355
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 1: or we don't know something that you do, or this

1356
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: guy's a fit for us and not them. Right, this

1357
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: guy's a great edge wretcher in a four to three,

1358
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 1: he's not gonna work for this knocking an outside linebacker

1359
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 1: for a three four team. That kind of thing. It

1360
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 1: doesn't fit their scheme, doesn't fit their size, whatever, parameters.

1361
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: We think he's too short. We've had good luck with that,

1362
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 1: all that kind of thing. All right, you're with Steve

1363
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 1: Task and Chris Brown. One Bills Live. John Murphy's chiming,

1364
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: and we just heard from Joe Shane, the assistant GM

1365
01:04:57,880 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: and the Buffalo Bills. We're also going to hear from

1366
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: Dan Morgan at the two o'clock hour. We got time

1367
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: for a minute here. Let's uh, we're gonna take a

1368
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 1: phone call. This is Mark in Jersey City. Mark, Welcome

1369
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 1: to the show. One Bills Live. Steve and Chris. What's

1370
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 1: on your mind? How are you doing? Good afternoon guys.

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01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 1: Um I just tweeted you guys because Chris may be

1372
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: a batting average analogy at the hit rate batting average,

1373
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 1: I've got it at sixty four percent if you look

1374
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 1: at the guys that are contributing, and that's with guys

1375
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: they've cut like ballet Hoo Peterman and I like that

1376
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 1: also that they're not given these guys scholarship. Hey, they've

1377
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 1: we've got them for four years. Give them that plusship.

1378
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 1: Because we've seen fire Bills regimes that they would they

1379
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 1: would not cut a draft pick. They just wouldn't do it,

1380
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:44,439
Speaker 1: and I'll put I'll point this out to you as well,

1381
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 1: and this is along those lines. More, they didn't get

1382
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 1: rid of Shack Lawson. You know, they hung around with

1383
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 1: him and actually got him to step his game up

1384
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 1: a minute. He's a direct he's a Rex Ryan draft pick.

1385
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 1: They didn't get rid of other guys whom were you know,

1386
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 1: picked us sensibly buy other regimes, and you know, Kyle

1387
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 1: Williams hung around, uh that kind of thing. They didn't

1388
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 1: get rid of good guys either. So if they and

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01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 1: I said this earlier too, and this isn't just the

1390
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 1: Bills regime, I think it happens too often where it's

1391
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 1: generalized too much, where these new coaches come in and

1392
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 1: they just want to clean the decks and get up.

1393
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 1: They don't want to get rid of good football players,

1394
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 1: whether they picked them or not. And that's absolutely overblown. Yeah,

1395
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 1: And I don't want to reign on the parade here

1396
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 1: and the and the hit rate. But that percentage I

1397
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 1: used is based on players who are successful draft choices

1398
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 1: who get to their second contract with their respective club.

1399
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: That's where that percentage comes from. So some of this

1400
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 1: that you've put together here in terms of in terms

1401
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: of the of the true nature of the of the

1402
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 1: figure and the statistic, it might be a little premature.

1403
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't mind it. I mean I'm excited

1404
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 1: about these guys as a lot of people are that

1405
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 1: the Bills have acquired in the first two draft classes.

1406
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: But let's just give it a little bit more time.

1407
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: Let's let a majority of these guys, let's see how

1408
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 1: many get to their second contract, how many are still

1409
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 1: here with the Bills. I mean, inevitably the number is

1410
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 1: going to come down either by a attrition, be potentially

1411
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 1: a career ending injury, or see a trade offer that

1412
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 1: the Bills just cannot pass up that includes maybe one

1413
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 1: of these players. So there's a lot of things that

1414
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 1: can happen between now and the time that some of

1415
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 1: these guys in the first two draft classes get to

1416
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 1: their second contract. That's going to inevitably pull that percentage down,

1417
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 1: which currently sits at sixty four percent. Thanks Mark you

1418
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: on anything else? Thanks for the call? What else? Oh,

1419
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 1: that's all. And as far as people coming in free

1420
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 1: agents draft picks, they get to see all the stuff

1421
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 1: that's going on there. The upgrades right new facility players

1422
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 1: are like they were like big kids, we see new

1423
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 1: stuff at work or any we get excited. So I

1424
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 1: think that's going to be a draws because they see

1425
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 1: the trajector of the organization going upward. I appreciate it, Mark,

1426
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 1: thanks for the call. He's right. Listen. In the draft,

1427
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 1: these guys don't have a choice. And this goes to

1428
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 1: our Twitter poll. You know what excites you most about

1429
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 1: the offseason? The draft process, free agency or the trade possibilities.

1430
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: When you're out in free agency, you're in competent. The

1431
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 1: Bills are in competition with other teams to sell what

1432
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 1: they're doing here, their program here, they're upside here, their facilities,

1433
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 1: ex bransion over here is going to help all they're

1434
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 1: selling all of that stuff to the free agents who

1435
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 1: will come in. It's not just about although it is

1436
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 1: a big part of it, about the size of the

1437
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 1: contract that you're going to give because a lot of

1438
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 1: teams can get in the same ballpark and there's a

1439
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 1: lot of leeway there with you know, what do you

1440
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 1: offer away from you know when I'm when I'm in

1441
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 1: here trying to get you know, treated or you know

1442
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 1: all this and they've got and they are upgraded question,

1443
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 1: no question about it. Let's take one more call and

1444
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 1: go to uh Bob in West Seneca. Bob, you've got

1445
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 1: something that you think there should be an overall overriding

1446
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:54,759
Speaker 1: official in a booth in every game. Is that your point?

1447
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 1: Good afternoon, guys. No, for me, is what started all this?

1448
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 1: Like you brought up before about anything else about what

1449
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: the officials like Chris brought up about a can of worms.

1450
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 1: Once they put an official like they're a senior official

1451
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 1: with so many years and he retires, they're up there

1452
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 1: and they're disagreeing with the official call on the field

1453
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 1: you want to talk about. You know, that's basically why

1454
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 1: you get aggravated for me watching a game, because they're going,

1455
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,600
Speaker 1: why wasn't that call made? Or I can't believe he

1456
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,640
Speaker 1: made that call that should be overturned. You got this

1457
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 1: guy up there given his idea what should have been called.

1458
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 1: I think that's what really started everybody. For me, it

1459
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 1: started it for me, or I'm going, you know, they

1460
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 1: really got to get their act together. So you're talking

1461
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 1: about these former refs that are now on the broadcast.

1462
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 1: Is that what you're talking about? Yeah, yeah, here's the

1463
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 1: thing too that those guys, I'll tell you what the

1464
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 1: guys on the field could not care less what Mike

1465
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 1: Pereira and Dean Blandinos say, even though they know those

1466
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 1: guys personally, they're they're out there trying to do a job.

1467
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 1: What they care about is getting it right on the field.

1468
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 1: These officials want to get it right. Trust me, they

1469
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 1: all Nobody wants to be the guy who missed the

1470
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,120
Speaker 1: call in New Orleans. He doesn't want to be that guy.

1471
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 1: He didn't want to do that. He didn't want to

1472
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: make a mistake of that nature, not at all. But

1473
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 1: what you're saying is, and here's the problem. When they

1474
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 1: first had this replay thing come down and you got

1475
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 1: to put a guy up there to work the technology,

1476
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 1: and it's always an official. It used to be that

1477
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 1: the officials on the field, and this is way back,

1478
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 1: they used to be mad when they got reversed by

1479
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Speaker 1: the guy in the booth, and the guy in the

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01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 1: booth didn't want to get make the guys on the

1481
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 1: field mad at them. But then they start putting these

1482
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 1: guys together as a team where they're all working together,

1483
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 1: and that changed everything. And Bob brings up a point.

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01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if this was his point, but this

1485
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,679
Speaker 1: is what kind of stuck with me and Bob, thanks

1486
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 1: for the call, appreciate it. What sticks with me is

1487
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a human relationship thing. What

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01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 1: happens if they've got a guy in the booth whose

1489
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 1: chimes down says, I I'm gonna fix any egregious call

1490
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 1: that there is, like the call this last week in

1491
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 1: New Or it was an egregious miss. Well, what will

1492
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 1: happen is it's the same thing that is happening. The

1493
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 1: officials are going to get trained that there's going to

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01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 1: be a guy that if they miss a call and

1495
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 1: it's egregious, they know they've got a safety net. So

1496
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 1: they're not gonna worry about missing a call. They're not yours.

1497
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 1: They're gonna put there, They're gonna put their whistle in

1498
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 1: their pocket and they're flag in their pocket, and they say, listen,

1499
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 1: if I miss something that bad, he'll get it. I

1500
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 1: won't have to do it right. So all of a sudden,

1501
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 1: now the lid comes off and there's not Maybe maybe

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01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 1: they will get rid of tiki tack calls. Maybe they

1503
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 1: will get rid of small, little small penalties that are

1504
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 1: touch fouls, that kind of thing, because they think they've

1505
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 1: got an eye in the sky that's gonna do it

1506
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 1: for them. I don't know if that's the right way

1507
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 1: to get that. Does that mean that they that they

1508
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 1: are more willing, more willing to throw a flag or

1509
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 1: less willing to throw a flag less because you because

1510
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 1: you could look at it the other way too and say, well,

1511
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 1: I'll throw the flag. If I'm wrong, you know they'll

1512
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 1: pick it up. I mean I think you can. Yes,

1513
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:56,640
Speaker 1: your interpretation would both ways. That's just the opposite of

1514
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 1: where you're five throw a flag. The coach would have

1515
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 1: to challenge it. But the guy here's the thing we're

1516
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 1: talking about, an egregious miss Yeah, I don't have to

1517
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,719
Speaker 1: I don't have to call anything. But what about fixing

1518
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 1: a make I mean, the guy up there is can

1519
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 1: arguably do the same. But now we're down the rabbit hole. Yeah,

1520
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 1: there you go, you know, I mean, that's how you

1521
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 1: get what are you gonna do? All right? Now? All right,

1522
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 1: all right, Steve Tasker, Chris Brown, we're one bills live

1523
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 1: here at one Bills Drive at our studios. John Murphy

1524
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 1: down where are yes, Yes, we are, did the one

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01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 1: Bills Drive studio here in Orchard Park, New York Murphy

1526
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 1: is down in Mobile, Alabama. Let's take a break. We've

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01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 1: got um Dan Dan Morgan coming up at the top

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01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 1: of the hour. More to come right after this. This

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01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 1: is One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive presented by

1530
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 1: Kalida Health and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back

1531
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 1: to the show One Bills Live presented by Clida Health

1532
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker along with Chris Brown. We're else hearing some

1533
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 1: live interviews from Mobile, Alabama, where the Bills brass are

1534
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 1: down evaluating the seniors in the Reese's Senior Bowl. We've

1535
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 1: heard from Joe Shane, assistant GM of the Buffalo Bills,

1536
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 1: and coming up at the top of the hour, we're

1537
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:14,679
Speaker 1: gonna hear from Dan Morgan, who's the director of Player

1538
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 1: of Personnel, and Chris Brown and I are here and

1539
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. We have a Twitter poll today for

1540
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 1: those of you who do follow the Buffalo Bills. It

1541
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 1: is about what excites you more about this offseason. Is

1542
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 1: that the free agency and all the money that the

1543
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 1: Bills have to spend is a fifty percent of you

1544
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 1: say yeah, forty one percent of you say no. It's

1545
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 1: the ten draft picks that excite me and who we

1546
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 1: might get in the draft, and nine percent of you

1547
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 1: say no, it's a possible trade that will happen draft

1548
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 1: day or possibly pre draft, and all of that. Lots

1549
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 1: to talk about today, the Super Bowls on the horizon,

1550
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 1: and before we get to any that listen, I'm gonna

1551
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 1: do this one last phone call. This is Rich from Hamburg,

1552
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 1: and this is about the technology. We've been talking about

1553
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:58,680
Speaker 1: this a lot since the Saints Rams game. The win

1554
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 1: into overtime and there's a contract versu of call and

1555
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 1: has been on the docket on the agenda all week.

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01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 1: Really it's about using technology to help the officials on

1557
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 1: the field. And Rich, you've got an idea, Rich from Hamburg,

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01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:15,560
Speaker 1: go ahead, Welcome to the show. Okay, Steve, good afternoon.

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01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 1: I've been wondering this for years. With the money that

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01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:22,759
Speaker 1: they're throwing in officiating and replay cameras and people spotting

1561
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 1: from different sites on different networks, why haven't they come

1562
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 1: to the conclusion that they set it year for years.

1563
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 1: A football is a game of inches. Yeah, you have

1564
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 1: two guys standing on the sidelines with two sticks and

1565
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 1: a chain in between it for ball placement. Yeah, it

1566
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 1: makes no sense to me. There's there's no reason why

1567
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 1: they can't grit every field, put a chip in the ball,

1568
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 1: and tell them officials exactly where that ball goes. Yeah,

1569
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. It would mean a lot

1570
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 1: of technology, a lot of experimentation. You'd have to figure

1571
01:14:53,040 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 1: out how to detect the chip chip. You what, you

1572
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 1: could center line the chip. What does that mean put

1573
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 1: the chip in the center of the ball? Well, what

1574
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: about it? I think you got to put it in

1575
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,599
Speaker 1: the nose of the ball too. What if the point

1576
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 1: of the ball gets someplace in the center of the

1577
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 1: ball doesn't Yeah, I'm sure there's a way that they

1578
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 1: can come up with a proper placement so that when

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01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 1: these guys run from the sidelines to place the ball

1580
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field, they haven't moved three

1581
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 1: inches one way or ten inches the other way. Yeah.

1582
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing, I get it. The problem. Yeah,

1583
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:32,640
Speaker 1: I mean, if the technology is there, I don't have

1584
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 1: a problem of using it. I'd like to see it

1585
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 1: first and see how it works and see if it

1586
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 1: would if they can make it happen, if they can

1587
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 1: micro spot the ball on the right spot in the field,

1588
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:43,600
Speaker 1: if they can make sure they get it right with

1589
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 1: the ball line, the goal line. If all that technology

1590
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 1: can be developed and used, Hey, I'm all fort and

1591
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 1: I think the league would be too, particularly if it

1592
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 1: doesn't cost them six gazillion dollars. I don't think they

1593
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,599
Speaker 1: have a problem doing it. And Brownie's got this idea

1594
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 1: about using some sort of chip technology to spot the

1595
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 1: ball even in the field of play, where if he

1596
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:07,599
Speaker 1: makes the line the game using using a rail system

1597
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 1: on the sidelines that are you know, that are set

1598
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 1: with GPS to make sure they know where they are

1599
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 1: so that you don't have these guys eyeball in it

1600
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 1: from from you know, from eighty feet away, trying to

1601
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 1: give you worth right about there, two guys, and then

1602
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 1: you get two guys schlepping a chain out there with

1603
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 1: two poles, and you got your official in front of

1604
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 1: sixty billion people using an index car to the front

1605
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 1: of the ball on an aluminum stick that's got a paddle.

1606
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 1: I mean, what what are we doing? Right? What are

1607
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:37,680
Speaker 1: we doing? Go ahead? Rich? Are we doing all right?

1608
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 1: Good luck? Guys? Thanks? Yea, I appreciate it. Thanks for

1609
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:43,600
Speaker 1: the call, Rich, And he's right, there's a lot of

1610
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 1: we've all got these outlandish ideas about how to make

1611
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 1: the game better, right, Yeah, And I mean, I mean

1612
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 1: are just my ideas are outland You're not thinking about

1613
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 1: implementation and research and development and all that stuff. I

1614
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 1: mean that those are elements and layers to this that

1615
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 1: have to be considered, conceptualized, and then implemented. And it

1616
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 1: does take time. I just think the NFL in some

1617
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 1: ways has taken the easy way out by just tweaking things,

1618
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 1: not making the effort, making the time, research and development,

1619
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 1: investment in the technology that currently exists to make sweeping

1620
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 1: an effective change to remove human error, which is usually

1621
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: the crux of the problem with officiating fiascos. Sure, that's

1622
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 1: the only problem with officiating fiascos is the human error.

1623
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 1: Otherwise we'd have nothing to fix. And I have this

1624
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:37,599
Speaker 1: brilliant idea. I think, why don't we the league? Should?

1625
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 1: You know, you see all these crazy TV shows about

1626
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 1: you know, battle bots and these things. You know they

1627
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 1: make these machines and drones and all the right, you know, right,

1628
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 1: when people invent stuff, right, why don't they put it

1629
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 1: out there to the NCAA and all the engineering schools

1630
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 1: to say, come up with some technology that will help us.

1631
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 1: And winner gets the money, not a million or that

1632
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 1: will pay for that. We'll pay for will buy the

1633
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 1: We'll buy the concept, you know, and um, and we'll

1634
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 1: use it. Let's let's see it, let's put it out

1635
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 1: there as a contest. And I you know the league

1636
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,639
Speaker 1: should do that. I mean, because it's always been about

1637
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 1: the league has always been about giving the fans what

1638
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 1: they want, a lot of it. And now the fans

1639
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 1: are asking to be trying to be really perfect, be better,

1640
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:19,600
Speaker 1: be better, be better at the stuff that doesn't have

1641
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 1: anything to do with big, strong guys competing at a

1642
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:26,480
Speaker 1: high level and then having some guy getting the way.

1643
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 1: Am I right? No, you're right, No, I hear the idea.

1644
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't mind that one at all. Hitched

1645
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 1: that concept to Roger I got it. Well, you've you

1646
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 1: can move higher up the food chain than I can

1647
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 1: in that regard, So why don't you do that? How about?

1648
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 1: How about so you see this story on the Brown

1649
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 1: did seth Wickersham? Espn Ye? Go ahead, journalists, this is great.

1650
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 1: It's like a fourteen page tome on this thing. And

1651
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 1: believe me, I've I've got as much respect for long

1652
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 1: form as anybody. I mean, this is a lot of

1653
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:57,679
Speaker 1: in depth stuff here. I mean the amount of people

1654
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 1: that this guy talked to over the path I don't know,

1655
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 1: four or five years. I mean, this thing goes all

1656
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 1: the way back to almost the inception of the HASLM

1657
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:08,879
Speaker 1: ownership of the Browns. And that's really what the focus

1658
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 1: is here and the way he paints the picture. It

1659
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 1: is a micro managing disaster at the ownership level. And

1660
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 1: it's why, you know, the Browns have been floundering for

1661
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 1: as long as HASLM has owned the team because his

1662
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 1: direction and decision making on organizational structure changes about his all.

1663
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 1: He's like the human weather vein, you know, whichever way

1664
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 1: the winds blow, and he's changing and going that way,

1665
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 1: and and the picture it paints is troubling, and you

1666
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:47,639
Speaker 1: almost feel bad for the employees of that organization who

1667
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 1: are not in decision making positions, you know, who put

1668
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 1: in an honest stag's work every single day and want

1669
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 1: to work for a winner, but you know, really have

1670
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 1: no control over that part of the product, and they

1671
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:02,680
Speaker 1: have their advice ignored. Yeah well yeah, and then you

1672
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 1: do have some decision makers who are are roundly ignored,

1673
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 1: soundly ignored or told one thing, and another thing happens,

1674
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 1: and it happened over and over and over again, which

1675
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 1: is why they've had five coaches in the last six years.

1676
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the story, at least

1677
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 1: it paints a little bit more encouraging picture that it

1678
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 1: looks as though John Dorsey the GM has flexed his

1679
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:25,640
Speaker 1: muscles to Haslam, saying, hey, it's time for you to

1680
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:27,679
Speaker 1: get out of the way. You've screwed this up five

1681
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 1: times over and you've only owned the team six years.

1682
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 1: Let me do my job. Let me pick the coach.

1683
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:36,639
Speaker 1: You know who we know now is is Freddy Kitchens,

1684
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 1: and he will report to me, not to you, and

1685
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 1: that way there won't be any dissenting voices. There won't

1686
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 1: be too many cooks in the kitchen, and we can

1687
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 1: have a singular focus, singular philosophy and travel on that

1688
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:54,600
Speaker 1: path with a proper decision making hierarchy as far as

1689
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,759
Speaker 1: the football department goes. So it looks as though, for now,

1690
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 1: you know, Haslim is taking a back seat and letting

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01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 1: the people that he put in position to make those

1692
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 1: decisions make those decisions without being an undermining influx. It's

1693
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 1: interesting because you get it so many the owners who

1694
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 1: didn't you get Long Dawn or the days of Al

1695
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:19,640
Speaker 1: Davis and Papa Bear Hollis, Yes, and Art Rooney. Now

1696
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:24,640
Speaker 1: the Rooneies are a different clan, the Maras, the mccaskey's,

1697
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 1: the Ford family. There are a lot of people who

1698
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 1: have been in the business a long time. Not all

1699
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 1: of them have been very successful. But the ones who

1700
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:37,719
Speaker 1: are not successful, in my opinion, almost invariably in Brownie,

1701
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 1: see what you think about this opinion, Invariably those people

1702
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 1: come to the game of football as an owner from

1703
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:49,799
Speaker 1: a different business and they try to superimpose their business

1704
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 1: sense and the success they've had in other businesses. They

1705
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:56,639
Speaker 1: superimpose those techniques, those ideas, that same personality onto football

1706
01:21:56,720 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 1: and it does not always translate well well. And perfect

1707
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 1: example was you know, they were able to convince Haslim

1708
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 1: the owner, to take this bold new direction where the

1709
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 1: front office rooted in analytics. You know, Sashi Brown, Paul D.

1710
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 1: Podesta that he hired away from the Mets, all of

1711
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 1: those guys in the front office making some of the

1712
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 1: biggest football decisions, all coming from an analytics background. They

1713
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 1: thought it was going to be like the money Ball

1714
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 1: of the NFL, and two years later. You know, Haslim

1715
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:31,599
Speaker 1: is wildly coyote with the TNT box, dropping the plunger

1716
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 1: and blowing the whole thing up again. From a Bill's perspective,

1717
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 1: one of the more interesting things that I pulled out

1718
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:42,640
Speaker 1: of this story was when this led the round to

1719
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 1: hire the new head coach after Petton was fired, who

1720
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:53,599
Speaker 1: also was a Bill's assistant in the most recent hiring

1721
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 1: prior to the hiring of Kitchens. When they ultimately decided

1722
01:22:56,920 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 1: on Hugh Jackson as the head coach, they had had

1723
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 1: a hierarchy who was casting votes for who their head

1724
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:08,679
Speaker 1: coach should be, and after several rounds of interviews, they

1725
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:12,759
Speaker 1: voted four to one to hire Sean McDermott. Yeah, back

1726
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, I want to say, Bills fans, that's

1727
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,920
Speaker 1: the interesting part of this article. Four to one, the

1728
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:24,560
Speaker 1: Browns brass votes in favor of McDermott, and Haslam completely

1729
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:27,639
Speaker 1: ignores that, and you know, flies to Cincinnati and hires

1730
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson and three thirty six and one. We know

1731
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 1: what happened after that last three thirty six and more seasons. Yeah,

1732
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 1: it was. It was not pretty, And so that was

1733
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 1: an interesting thing. I was like, whoo, wasn't aware of

1734
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 1: that one, right, And that's so it's it's interesting to

1735
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 1: see how it works, because there's no question when you

1736
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 1: and I remember I spoke to Jimmy Haslam shortly after

1737
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:48,719
Speaker 1: they hired and maybe not shortly, but a few months

1738
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 1: after they had had gotten the team, and they said

1739
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:54,879
Speaker 1: the most amazing thing to them about the entire process

1740
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 1: of becoming an NFL owner, And they had been they

1741
01:23:57,160 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 1: had been minority owners of the Pittsburgh Steelers, right, which

1742
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 1: is why they were approved and got this opportunity. And

1743
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 1: they'd seen the Steelers do it, which is surprising that

1744
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 1: it didn't. If you've seen the Steelers way, you would

1745
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 1: expect patience to be a virtue, right, you know, the stability,

1746
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 1: you know, for the fifth time recognizing you know, I

1747
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:18,559
Speaker 1: mean I spoke to him and he said, um, the

1748
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:20,679
Speaker 1: most amazing thing about it was when they became full

1749
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 1: owner of the Cleveland Browns that the league, you know,

1750
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 1: virtually handed him the keys to the building and said

1751
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:30,759
Speaker 1: good luck. And that was it. There was no seminar,

1752
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 1: there's no orientation meeting, there's no hey, here's some dudes

1753
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,639
Speaker 1: and don'ts of being an NFL owner. There was nothing.

1754
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 1: Here's the keys to your building, We'll see you on Sunday, basically,

1755
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 1: and they were really shocked at the lack of ramping. Yeah,

1756
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 1: of the lack of interference or support or anything else

1757
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:52,640
Speaker 1: they got from the league level how to run the

1758
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 1: darn thing right. At the same time, I think that's

1759
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 1: a little amazing. At the same time, in the article,

1760
01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 1: it references has them being upset in hindsight that he

1761
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 1: felt he was railroaded into hiring Joe Banner as his

1762
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 1: CEO by other league owners saying, this is the guy

1763
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:10,759
Speaker 1: you want to run your franchise. You're a new owner.

1764
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 1: This guy, I'll help you. And so he kind of

1765
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 1: listened to that advice and then turned around and said, oh, man,

1766
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 1: I should never listen to them in the first place.

1767
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 1: And I mean, I think it just it helped. What

1768
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 1: I think it did, though, was help reveal how much

1769
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 1: Haslim gets turned around in his own thinking about what's

1770
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 1: good for his organization and what isn't. And so you

1771
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:35,559
Speaker 1: certainly hope for the sake of the people that work there,

1772
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 1: that Haslim as an owner has finally recognized I'm micromanaging

1773
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 1: way too much here. I got to take a step back.

1774
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 1: As much as I want to be involved in the

1775
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 1: football part of the operation, that is not my background,

1776
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 1: that's not my expertise, and I've got to leave it

1777
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:52,839
Speaker 1: to the people that were brought up in this business

1778
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 1: and know how to run a football team. And when

1779
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:57,760
Speaker 1: I feel I need to weigh in or I have

1780
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:00,600
Speaker 1: a question, I do that. I ask you question, I

1781
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 1: get my answers because ultimately I do own the team.

1782
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 1: But I can't inflict my will in areas that are

1783
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 1: really not my lane. I mean, he's got to stay

1784
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:12,640
Speaker 1: in his lane. Steve Tasker and Chris Brown and One

1785
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 1: Bills Live. If you want to get on the conversation

1786
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:16,560
Speaker 1: about the Bills and what excites you about the offseason,

1787
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 1: free agency, the draft picks, or the trade market possibilities,

1788
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 1: you can give us a call at eight O three

1789
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 1: five fifty or eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

1790
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break. This is One Bills Live,

1791
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive. And this

1792
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live

1793
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker and Chris Brown and One Bill's Drive studios

1794
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,640
Speaker 1: here in Orchard Park, New York. We had the Pro

1795
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 1: Bowls going on down in Orlando. A lot of bunch

1796
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 1: of guys are down there, Kyle Williams down there and everything,

1797
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 1: and the league always does a nice job. I mean

1798
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 1: they dress it up big time for the Pro Bowl.

1799
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 1: It's a big happening. It's a big vent event. You know,

1800
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 1: the Disney World and Universal Studios are down there. So

1801
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 1: they bring in a butcher a bunch of people, right.

1802
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 1: They also bring in all the mascots for the team.

1803
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 1: Guess which mascot nobody likes. Um, it's the Patriots masks hat,

1804
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:18,880
Speaker 1: the pot hat, the Patriot uh And Jamal Adams, who

1805
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:22,680
Speaker 1: has openly declared his disdain for the Patriots organization more

1806
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 1: than once this season. Who is Miami dhot No is

1807
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 1: a New York Jett the safety and he's a player too,

1808
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:33,600
Speaker 1: took a moment during the Pro Bowl festivities and absolutely

1809
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 1: laid out Pat the Patriot, I mean annihilated him. I

1810
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:42,240
Speaker 1: left his feet, messed him up and look at the

1811
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 1: if you watch the video, which you can easily find

1812
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:46,920
Speaker 1: on social media, lifted him up, whacked him down. It

1813
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 1: was like a WWE tack. I'm just gonna tell you,

1814
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:51,680
Speaker 1: Pat the Patriot was not getting up real fast. No,

1815
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 1: we rolled. He got drilled from behind, landed on his back,

1816
01:27:57,200 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 1: and then rolled over onto his chest, and landed on

1817
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 1: his back, rolled over onto his stomach and didn't move.

1818
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 1: He didn't move out for a minute two minutes. I mean,

1819
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 1: you got an NFL safety coming at you, and I mean,

1820
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 1: if you watch it, Adams leaves his feet to bury

1821
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:16,280
Speaker 1: this guy. I mean he I mean leaves his feet.

1822
01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:18,639
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean he launches himself, and I mean

1823
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 1: that guy's down. He is, I mean he turns over

1824
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 1: and you can tell he's like not all there. And

1825
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 1: of course they got the wind knocked out of him

1826
01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 1: Ville Jacksonville's mascots standing there at jackson Deville better than me,

1827
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:34,599
Speaker 1: and he is talking smack to pat the Patriot. Isn't

1828
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 1: that something that every Bills fan would like to do?

1829
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 1: Just get down? I will admit to watching that multiple times.

1830
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 1: And my son had a picture of Tom Brady on

1831
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 1: his dartboard for the longest time. There you go, Yeah, yeah,

1832
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 1: my sons are adults and they do worse things than dartboards.

1833
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:54,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, so it's uh, that was I enjoyed that.

1834
01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 1: I was entertained by one. I understand now there's no

1835
01:28:57,360 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 1: sound with it. I feel bad for the guy in

1836
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 1: the suit, I mean, what did he do? You know

1837
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 1: what I mean? But symbolically I enjoyed it. Yeah, And

1838
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 1: it's sort of apropos that a jet guy would be

1839
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 1: the one that would that would lay him out pretty

1840
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 1: good stuff though, I it's wouldn't do. And if you

1841
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:15,160
Speaker 1: ever when the Bill, when the Bills get a handful

1842
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 1: of guys to go down there, it'd be it'dn't be

1843
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:19,840
Speaker 1: nice for a winter vacation for Bills fans to head

1844
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 1: down there and enjoy it. It's a it's a fun weekend.

1845
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:26,720
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you stay the whole week, but not

1846
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 1: only do you get to see these guys up close

1847
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 1: and personal in a more casual atmosphere, you get to

1848
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 1: see guys from all over the league. Universal Studios is

1849
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 1: right there, Disney World is right there. That's Challenge Skills

1850
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:38,719
Speaker 1: Challenge there. It's very casual and it's a big party.

1851
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 1: There's no question about it's a they've really made it

1852
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 1: into which I believe much different event than it was

1853
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 1: when I was going out to Hawaii. I believe that

1854
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:47,160
Speaker 1: Skills Challenge airs tonight and Kyle is participating in it.

1855
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 1: What's he doing? They swimming or golf? I don't know

1856
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 1: what he's doing. He's a good swimmer, I know he is.

1857
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 1: That's why I say he's a good He's a good

1858
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 1: golfer too. You can do it just about anything. My

1859
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 1: wallet will vouch for the fact that he can go.

1860
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 1: But it's true. All right, we're gonna, we're gonna take

1861
01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 1: a break. We're gonna come back at the top of

1862
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 1: the hour. Dan Morgan, the director of player Personnel for

1863
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:07,320
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills DWN in Mobile, Alabama's talking to our

1864
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 1: guy Murf. We've got that right at the top of

1865
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:11,160
Speaker 1: the hour. This is One Bills Live presented by Kalida

1866
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:13,719
Speaker 1: Health from One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bills

1867
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 1: Radio Lollo Bills Radio Network Stories update. The Jets announced

1868
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:33,440
Speaker 1: yesterday that they hired former Dolphins offensive coordinator Dowal Loggins

1869
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:37,000
Speaker 1: as their OC and quarterbacks coach. Logins is the fourth

1870
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:39,880
Speaker 1: Jets offensive coordinator in four years, and we'll join former

1871
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 1: Dolphins head coach Adam Gase in New York. Gayson Logins

1872
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 1: have worked together in Chicago in two fifteen and in

1873
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:50,519
Speaker 1: two eighteen with the Dolphins. The Panthers signed linebacker fa

1874
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 1: Obada to a one year contract through the two thousand

1875
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:56,200
Speaker 1: nineteen season. Obada, who was born in Nigeria but has

1876
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:59,000
Speaker 1: lived most of his life in London, made history in

1877
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:01,759
Speaker 1: August of two thousand eighteen when he became the first

1878
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:04,800
Speaker 1: player to make an active roster through the NFL International

1879
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 1: Pathway Program. He finished this past season with eight tackles,

1880
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 1: including two sacks, and six quarterback pressures in ten games.

1881
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 1: Steelers president Art Rooney said yesterday that the team is

1882
01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 1: working on a contract extension for Ben Roethlisberger. Roethlisberger has

1883
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:22,719
Speaker 1: one year left on his contract with a salary cap

1884
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:25,840
Speaker 1: of hit of twenty three point two million and a

1885
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:28,599
Speaker 1: base salary of twelve million, with a five million dollar

1886
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:31,840
Speaker 1: roster bonus due in March. The Houston Rockets beat the

1887
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:34,920
Speaker 1: Knicks at Madison Square Garden last night, one fourteen to

1888
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:37,720
Speaker 1: one ten. James Harden scored a career high sixty one

1889
01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:41,120
Speaker 1: points and hit the thirty point mark for the twenty

1890
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:45,840
Speaker 1: first consecutive game. Harden made the clinching layup with three

1891
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 1: point eight seconds remaining after the Knicks turned it over,

1892
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 1: capping his fifth fifty point game this season. The UBI

1893
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:54,599
Speaker 1: Bulls are at Kent State Tomorrow night at six thirty pm.

1894
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Speaker 1: They're looking to bounce back after dropping their first conference

1895
01:31:57,280 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 1: game of the season to Northern Illinois seventy five seven

1896
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Speaker 1: on Tuesday. The Bulls are now seventeen and two overall

1897
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 1: and five and one in the MAC. The Sabers are

1898
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 1: still on the All Star break. All Star Weekend in

1899
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:11,160
Speaker 1: San Jose begins tomorrow with the twenty nineteen NHL All

1900
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 1: Star Skills Challenge tomorrow night at nine pm Eastern. The

1901
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:17,839
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen Honda NHL All Star Game is on Saturday,

1902
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Speaker 1: beginning at eight pm Eastern. Jack Chel and Jeff Skinner

1903
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:24,599
Speaker 1: will represent the Sabers at All Star Weekend. Steve Tasker,

1904
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 1: along with Chris Brown and our guy John Murphy, is

1905
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 1: down in Mobile, Alabama. We're gonna send it there now

1906
01:32:29,880 --> 01:32:33,240
Speaker 1: to John Murphy. He's got Dan Morgan, director of player

1907
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:35,640
Speaker 1: personnel for the Buffalo Bills, and an interview that was

1908
01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:39,880
Speaker 1: taped earlier today. Here's John Murphy with Dan Morgan. All right,

1909
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Speaker 1: welcome back. We're covering the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Alabama.

1910
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills here and Forest especially the personnel department.

1911
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 1: And we're with the director of player personnel for the

1912
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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, Dan Morgan, less than a year into the job.

1913
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Speaker 1: This is gonna be your first draft for the Bills. Yeah,

1914
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Speaker 1: first draft. It's exciting, you know, to get to work

1915
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Speaker 1: with Brandon and Joe and you know the scouting staff.

1916
01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:01,320
Speaker 1: It's it's definitely a whole thing to you know, be

1917
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Speaker 1: with a new team and share what I know with

1918
01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:05,479
Speaker 1: them and you know, kind of learned from them, and

1919
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Speaker 1: you know, it's just the it's gonna be a fun experience.

1920
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Speaker 1: It's got to be a lot of comparing, Right you

1921
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:13,760
Speaker 1: were several years with Seattle, you're director of pro personnel here,

1922
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:15,479
Speaker 1: take the same job in Buffalo. A lot of its

1923
01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 1: got to be like, hey we did this, Oh you

1924
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Speaker 1: do that, let's try that, right Yeah, Yeah, I think

1925
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:22,439
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool to see, you know, how Brandon works,

1926
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Speaker 1: how Joe works, you know my self work. You know,

1927
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:28,880
Speaker 1: we all come from, you know, from different backgrounds under

1928
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:31,640
Speaker 1: different people, so you know, just to kind of combine

1929
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:35,040
Speaker 1: all three of what we know is a pretty cool thing. Again,

1930
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Speaker 1: I know your background, obviously everybody's got a different one,

1931
01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 1: but yours is interesting. Mean, that you were a player,

1932
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:44,000
Speaker 1: a former first round pick, an established college player. There's

1933
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:46,639
Speaker 1: got to be a role and a need for guys

1934
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:48,759
Speaker 1: like you in the scouting department, right, guys who've actually

1935
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:50,439
Speaker 1: been out there and played in the league. I think so,

1936
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:52,439
Speaker 1: you know, I think we did that. We bring a

1937
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:55,280
Speaker 1: different perspective. You know, we've been out there. You know,

1938
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:57,400
Speaker 1: we've done it, We've sweat, we know what it feels

1939
01:33:57,400 --> 01:34:00,559
Speaker 1: like out there. Um, you know, so I definitely think

1940
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:02,040
Speaker 1: there's a place for that, and I can kind of

1941
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:04,800
Speaker 1: share my experiences, you know, with them and kind of

1942
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:06,800
Speaker 1: let them know what the players are going through. You

1943
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:09,839
Speaker 1: don't have to, you know, sell anybody out here Seattle

1944
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:11,920
Speaker 1: or Buffalo. I'm sure you wouldn't. But was there ever

1945
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:14,360
Speaker 1: an opportunity in a meeting M scouting meeting where you

1946
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:16,519
Speaker 1: had to say, no, that's not how it works as

1947
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Speaker 1: a player. I know that's not what happened. Well, you know,

1948
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:21,360
Speaker 1: I think you try to not act like that. You know,

1949
01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:23,840
Speaker 1: nobody has all the answers, and I definitely don't have

1950
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 1: all the answers. And you know, basically, I can come

1951
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:28,320
Speaker 1: and I can learn from Brand and I can learn

1952
01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:30,200
Speaker 1: from Joe, I can learn from the other scouts. So

1953
01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:33,360
Speaker 1: you know, you're you're really never too big for the job.

1954
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:35,840
Speaker 1: You know, you're always learning, You're always trying to learn

1955
01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:38,479
Speaker 1: something new, and you know, just be positive. You played

1956
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:41,400
Speaker 1: in the league before that an outstanding college career. I

1957
01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:43,680
Speaker 1: just realized this when I was doing little research. In

1958
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:45,800
Speaker 1: your senior year at University of Miami. You won the

1959
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:49,400
Speaker 1: Buckets Award, the Bednarik Award, and the Negurski Award, basically

1960
01:34:49,439 --> 01:34:52,920
Speaker 1: the top three defensive player awards. Nobody's ever done that

1961
01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:55,720
Speaker 1: in college football before. What an accomplishment. Yeah, it's, uh,

1962
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:58,160
Speaker 1: you know, it's something I'm definitely proud of. It's something

1963
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 1: you know that I can show my kids, and you

1964
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:02,920
Speaker 1: know they can be proud of their dad. So you know,

1965
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:05,240
Speaker 1: they definitely don't define who I am, but it's definitely

1966
01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:07,400
Speaker 1: really cool thing and something that I can carry with

1967
01:35:07,400 --> 01:35:08,840
Speaker 1: me the rest of my life. You gotta be nice

1968
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 1: trophy somewhere in your house, you know. Actually, those three

1969
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 1: those three trophies, they're at my parents' house. I think

1970
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 1: my parents like them more than I do. You know,

1971
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:18,719
Speaker 1: they're they're proud of me, so you know, I'm fine

1972
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:20,439
Speaker 1: with them having them. Like I said, you know, they

1973
01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:22,840
Speaker 1: really don't define who I am, but they're but they're

1974
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:25,840
Speaker 1: definitely cool. As your college background, let's talk about how

1975
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:28,320
Speaker 1: you got to Miami. You were born in the Philadelphia area,

1976
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:31,559
Speaker 1: but as a youngster, moved to to the Miami South Florida. Yeah.

1977
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:34,120
Speaker 1: It's funny though. You know, I lived in Philadelphia until

1978
01:35:34,160 --> 01:35:36,200
Speaker 1: I was thirteen years old, but we used to vacation

1979
01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:39,240
Speaker 1: in Florida all the time, you know, So going down there,

1980
01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:42,240
Speaker 1: I bought a Miami Hurricane jersey. My dad bought me one,

1981
01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:44,160
Speaker 1: and I became a huge Miami fan. So I was

1982
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 1: the only kid in my neighborhood that was wearing Miami stuff.

1983
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:50,000
Speaker 1: Everybody else was wearing Notre Dame Penn State stuff, So

1984
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:52,760
Speaker 1: I actually used to get in fights over it. That

1985
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:54,880
Speaker 1: was when the Canes were big time, right, they were

1986
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:57,280
Speaker 1: like one program. Yeah, we were big times. So I

1987
01:35:57,360 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 1: usually had the bragging rights, but every now and then

1988
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:02,000
Speaker 1: Penn State or Notre Dame would would get them, and

1989
01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:04,679
Speaker 1: I think that's when the fights would come along. Any

1990
01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:07,120
Speaker 1: time to connect with Jim Kelly, one of the most

1991
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:09,080
Speaker 1: famous Hurricane alumni, you know, I got to talk to

1992
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:11,240
Speaker 1: him a few times, but you know, nothing in depth.

1993
01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:14,840
Speaker 1: But he's definitely a legend and somebody that I, you know,

1994
01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 1: look up to and totally respect. When it came time

1995
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:20,000
Speaker 1: to get to college, to choose a college, it wasn't

1996
01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:21,200
Speaker 1: much of a choice for you. You You wanted to be

1997
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:24,160
Speaker 1: a hurricane, you know. I always wanted to be a hurricane.

1998
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:26,880
Speaker 1: But believe it or not, Doug Marone he worked for

1999
01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:29,760
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech at the time, and somehow he coerced me

2000
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:31,960
Speaker 1: and the commitment to Georgia Tech when he was at

2001
01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:35,000
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech and quickly realized that's not where I wanted

2002
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:36,760
Speaker 1: to go, and then the next day I decommit it

2003
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:40,639
Speaker 1: and committed to Miami. Yeah, hey, you come out of Miami,

2004
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:43,640
Speaker 1: first round pick eleventh overall, you go to Carolina and

2005
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:46,679
Speaker 1: you I think would have Again we're talking about your background,

2006
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:48,840
Speaker 1: You wouldn't have a pretty good sense of what maybe

2007
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:50,479
Speaker 1: some of these blue chip players in this years you

2008
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 1: might be thinking right about now, right three or four

2009
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:55,799
Speaker 1: months before the draft. Yeah, definitely. You know, just it's funny,

2010
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:58,680
Speaker 1: you know, at night we interview these kids and I

2011
01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:00,519
Speaker 1: was in that seat one time, so I kind of

2012
01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:03,519
Speaker 1: know the anxiety that they have, and you know, kind

2013
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 1: of what's going through their head? They don't know anybody,

2014
01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:07,960
Speaker 1: and they're getting all these questions asked. You know, it's

2015
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:11,000
Speaker 1: definitely a new experience, so you know, to definitely be

2016
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:13,880
Speaker 1: able to share that experience and just kind of maybe

2017
01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:17,040
Speaker 1: ease them along with some questions. You know, I think

2018
01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 1: it helps for me to you know, ask the right

2019
01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 1: questions and make them feel comfortable. In the interview, did

2020
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:24,640
Speaker 1: you play in the senior role? Did? I did? And

2021
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:26,400
Speaker 1: I was invited, but I chose not to play in

2022
01:37:26,439 --> 01:37:28,599
Speaker 1: a combine and everything else. Y, I did the combine

2023
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:30,879
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff, all right, the nighttime interviews,

2024
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:32,439
Speaker 1: it's a big part of what you and your group

2025
01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:35,639
Speaker 1: are doing here. Obviously you've watching practices when you can

2026
01:37:35,720 --> 01:37:38,280
Speaker 1: this week because of the rain, But the nighttime interviews.

2027
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:40,240
Speaker 1: I saw a quote actually I wrote with Town because

2028
01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:42,640
Speaker 1: it impressed me the other day that Jim Nagee, the

2029
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:45,519
Speaker 1: executive director here, said something about, look, if you want

2030
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:47,360
Speaker 1: to know about how these guys play, you got the tape.

2031
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:49,599
Speaker 1: If you want to know the guy, you do the interviews?

2032
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 1: Is that the philosophy for the bills? Absolutely? You know,

2033
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:54,759
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta sit down, you watch the tape,

2034
01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:57,360
Speaker 1: and you know, the tape's the one thing, you know,

2035
01:37:57,400 --> 01:38:00,280
Speaker 1: it's it's obviously super important, but you know, and more

2036
01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:02,639
Speaker 1: important is who you're bringing into your building, who you're

2037
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 1: bringing into your locker room around the players that are

2038
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:07,000
Speaker 1: currently in there. If you bring the wrong guys in

2039
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:09,680
Speaker 1: it and it's not matching what you're you're wanting to

2040
01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:12,439
Speaker 1: do culture wise, you know, it can mess everything up.

2041
01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:15,320
Speaker 1: So it's super important that we get that right. You

2042
01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:17,840
Speaker 1: went on to say that's the hard part. You agree, Oh, yeah,

2043
01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:20,599
Speaker 1: no doubt. I was with Jim actually in Seattle, so

2044
01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:23,600
Speaker 1: you know, we definitely share a lot of the same philosophies.

2045
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:26,439
Speaker 1: Working under John Schneider in Seattle. Tell me about the

2046
01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:30,360
Speaker 1: years as a scout in Seattle. Several years there, obviously

2047
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:33,280
Speaker 1: some success, some big time wins and and kind of

2048
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:35,479
Speaker 1: you guys set up a sustained approach to winning two

2049
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:37,400
Speaker 1: which is probably what every team looked. Yeah, we did,

2050
01:38:37,439 --> 01:38:39,439
Speaker 1: and you know that's a lot of what we're trying

2051
01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:43,600
Speaker 1: to do here, just consistent championship caliber football. You know,

2052
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:46,799
Speaker 1: it's bringing the right guys in, finding the best players,

2053
01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:49,680
Speaker 1: finding the best people, not just the players, And I

2054
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:52,080
Speaker 1: think that's what makes for a successful team when we

2055
01:38:52,120 --> 01:38:54,000
Speaker 1: had you on our show. When you came in last spring,

2056
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:56,839
Speaker 1: I was impressed by this and remain impressed. You started

2057
01:38:56,880 --> 01:38:59,840
Speaker 1: out coming off the playing field, former first round pick,

2058
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:02,920
Speaker 1: a decorated an NFL career, and you started out as

2059
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:05,679
Speaker 1: an intern in Seattle scouting department. I did, I did.

2060
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:08,880
Speaker 1: I came out. I did a summer internship. So you know,

2061
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:11,200
Speaker 1: just you really got to put your ego to the side.

2062
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 1: You know, and I'm not a big ego person, but

2063
01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 1: you know, driving guys to the airport, driving guys to

2064
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:19,200
Speaker 1: the doctor, you know, doing all the things that you know,

2065
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:21,479
Speaker 1: maybe a lot of first round picks wouldn't usually do.

2066
01:39:22,479 --> 01:39:24,559
Speaker 1: But you know, hey, if you want something bad enough

2067
01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:26,800
Speaker 1: and you're willing to work for it, then you'll do

2068
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:28,519
Speaker 1: whatever it takes. I'm wondering where there are a time

2069
01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:31,439
Speaker 1: when when a Seahawk player who maybe wasn't familiar with you,

2070
01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:33,760
Speaker 1: I thought you were a driver. I mean, you felt

2071
01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:35,479
Speaker 1: like saying, hey, wait a minute, I was a first

2072
01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:37,640
Speaker 1: round pick. I've won all these awards, and I've had

2073
01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:39,760
Speaker 1: I've had a few guys that knew who I was,

2074
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:42,000
Speaker 1: and then a few guys that didn't know who I was,

2075
01:39:42,040 --> 01:39:43,960
Speaker 1: But I think it's kind of cool though when they

2076
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:46,080
Speaker 1: don't know who you are, because then you really see

2077
01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:48,519
Speaker 1: you know, you see who the true guy is. So

2078
01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:51,640
Speaker 1: you know, I used to definitely kind of take that

2079
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:53,840
Speaker 1: in and and know the guy a lot better after

2080
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:55,800
Speaker 1: a drive. Brandon Means said something to us the other

2081
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:59,599
Speaker 1: day about the observation that goes out here and how

2082
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:01,479
Speaker 1: he likes have a scout down on the field during

2083
01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:04,120
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl practices to keep an eye on guys how

2084
01:40:04,120 --> 01:40:07,439
Speaker 1: they interact with players. It sounds like what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah,

2085
01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:11,200
Speaker 1: no doubt. You know the guys out on the field,

2086
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:13,280
Speaker 1: you know, just see how they interact with each other

2087
01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:15,439
Speaker 1: and how they interact with the coaches. I mean it's

2088
01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:19,280
Speaker 1: it's big, you know, body language and you know just um,

2089
01:40:19,320 --> 01:40:21,719
Speaker 1: you know, communication, like as a guy kind of standing

2090
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:23,839
Speaker 1: away from his teammates or is he with his teammates

2091
01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:26,000
Speaker 1: as he engaged, So you know, you learn a lot

2092
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:31,240
Speaker 1: from that. That's John Murphy with Dan Morgan down in Mobile, Alabama.

2093
01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:32,680
Speaker 1: I had a chance to sit down and talk with

2094
01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:36,360
Speaker 1: him for a minute. It's it's pretty telling. It's you

2095
01:40:36,479 --> 01:40:39,759
Speaker 1: kind of forget you, kind of you kind of project

2096
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:41,719
Speaker 1: I think as a normal fan, you project your own

2097
01:40:42,360 --> 01:40:45,320
Speaker 1: level of expertise and interest onto how they're doing things,

2098
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:47,720
Speaker 1: and once you start talking to him of how they

2099
01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:50,200
Speaker 1: really really do things, it's like, oh, yeah, they're Wait,

2100
01:40:50,240 --> 01:40:52,240
Speaker 1: they're kind of on top of it compared to where

2101
01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:55,600
Speaker 1: I would be. Yeah, I'm not right, Yeah, I'm like,

2102
01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:58,360
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, we're not even in the same strategy.

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Speaker 1: You think about you think about two they d I'm

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01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:02,920
Speaker 1: just driving the guy to the airport, and you're evaluating

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01:41:02,960 --> 01:41:05,599
Speaker 1: the guy like because he knows he thinks you're just

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01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:08,280
Speaker 1: a guy. So how do these guys treat the people

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01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:12,080
Speaker 1: who are interns, who are hourly wage earners, who are

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01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:14,120
Speaker 1: guys who are picking up the stuff in the locker room,

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01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:17,400
Speaker 1: whatever he perceives you to be. How's he treat you

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01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:20,840
Speaker 1: then compared to how he treats you when he knows oh,

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Speaker 1: like in my like, oh, you're a Wall of Famer

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01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:24,960
Speaker 1: here in the you know you were a Pro Bowl,

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01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:27,120
Speaker 1: you were a player. They don't know that. And how

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01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:30,760
Speaker 1: they treat you in any given instance tells you a

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01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:32,479
Speaker 1: lot about the guy. Am I right? You make a

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01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:35,759
Speaker 1: visit to a team facility. As soon as you step

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01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:38,640
Speaker 1: off the plane, your interview has begun, that's right, and

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01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:42,920
Speaker 1: if you don't recognize that or understand that, you run

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01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:45,799
Speaker 1: the risk of putting yourself in a bad light to somebody,

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01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:49,559
Speaker 1: and that somebody will tell the most important somebody's and

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01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:53,800
Speaker 1: then before you know it, you're you're only being considered

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01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:56,519
Speaker 1: by sixteen NFL teams instead of thirty two. Yeah, your

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01:41:56,520 --> 01:41:59,760
Speaker 1: rehearsed answer has become pretty meaningless in the interview, in

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01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:05,080
Speaker 1: the interviews exactly process, because your informal interview has sabotaged

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01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:08,200
Speaker 1: your ability to make a good impression. Yeah right, yeah, no,

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01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:13,200
Speaker 1: And I you know, you think about Dan Morgan first

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01:42:13,280 --> 01:42:15,639
Speaker 1: year with this organization. It's gonna be interesting to see

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01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:19,120
Speaker 1: how it all plays out. Because last year, at this time,

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01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:22,880
Speaker 1: the previous director of player Personnel or I think he

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01:42:22,920 --> 01:42:24,880
Speaker 1: was a vice president player Personnel, I can't remember his

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01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:28,519
Speaker 1: exact title. Brian Gaine was on his way to Houston

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01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:32,680
Speaker 1: to become the GM there and they didn't fill the

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01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:37,160
Speaker 1: job right away prior to the draft. It wasn't until

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01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:40,439
Speaker 1: after the draft that Dan Morgan was hired. So, you know,

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01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:42,640
Speaker 1: last year they do the draft with the absence of

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Speaker 1: a player personnel man. Now they have one in place

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01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:49,200
Speaker 1: to go through this draft cycle. And I think you

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01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:52,360
Speaker 1: gotta believe any extra set of eyes with some expertise,

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01:42:52,479 --> 01:42:55,160
Speaker 1: especially the level of Dan Morgan, who, as he mentioned himself,

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01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:58,040
Speaker 1: can lend the perspective of having played in the league

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01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:01,080
Speaker 1: for a long time injury, he's actually cut his career

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01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:06,360
Speaker 1: shorter than it probably would have been. You know, it's

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01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 1: a valuable extra set of eyes and mind about the

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01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:12,719
Speaker 1: game to evaluate the talent that's in this draft pool.

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01:43:13,320 --> 01:43:15,840
Speaker 1: So we're down they're down in Mobile, Alabama, looking at

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01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:19,120
Speaker 1: all these young seniors, and we're asked our listeners today

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01:43:19,240 --> 01:43:21,679
Speaker 1: what excites them most about this offseason for the Buffalo

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01:43:21,680 --> 01:43:24,200
Speaker 1: Bills as we're down in the Senior Bowl in Mobile,

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01:43:24,640 --> 01:43:26,360
Speaker 1: is that the free agency and all the money that

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01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:28,599
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills have to have to spend that. Fifty

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01:43:28,640 --> 01:43:30,559
Speaker 1: one percent of you say, that's exactly what it is,

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01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:32,439
Speaker 1: the free agent market with the money that the Bills

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01:43:32,439 --> 01:43:35,000
Speaker 1: have in the cap space. Forty percent say, though, it's

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01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:39,320
Speaker 1: those ten draft picks that we've gotten and this trip

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01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:41,240
Speaker 1: to the Senior Bowl gives us a headstart on that.

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01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:43,120
Speaker 1: And nine percent of you say, no, it's a trade

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01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:45,760
Speaker 1: that's going to happen either in free agency, before or

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01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:48,200
Speaker 1: before the draft, or maybe even on draft day, so

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01:43:48,240 --> 01:43:49,600
Speaker 1: you can get if you want to chime in on

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01:43:49,680 --> 01:43:52,240
Speaker 1: that conversation, you can. We've got a line lines open

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Speaker 1: later three five fifty one, eight eight, five fifty two,

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01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:57,080
Speaker 1: five fifty We've got time to take some calls if

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01:43:57,120 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 1: you do want to get in on that conversation. And

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01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:03,360
Speaker 1: then you know, we also saw the thing on First

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Speaker 1: Take yesterday with Lashawn McCoy who was interviewed, and I

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01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:11,920
Speaker 1: mean he covered a range of topics, including the twenty

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Speaker 1: eighteen season and his outlook on the twenty nineteen season,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I know other outlets are going to

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01:44:19,200 --> 01:44:23,360
Speaker 1: focus on some of the more controversial topics that he covered,

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01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:25,719
Speaker 1: you know, including some of the off the field stuff

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01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:28,519
Speaker 1: that was garnering headlines early in the season last year,

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01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:32,600
Speaker 1: with you know, his ex girlfriend and stuff and the

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01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:35,759
Speaker 1: other things. The thing that I that perked my ears

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Speaker 1: up was his level of confidence that he's going to

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01:44:41,240 --> 01:44:43,720
Speaker 1: bounce back in twenty nineteen after what was a very

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01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:48,000
Speaker 1: down twenty eighteen season. Steve and I know are people

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Speaker 1: on the other side actually have Leshaun's comments on that.

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Speaker 1: So let's listen to those and then I'm curious to

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Speaker 1: hear what you think. Well, it was that soft year,

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01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:01,280
Speaker 1: It really was. I mean, especially for myself. You talk

2181
01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:03,760
Speaker 1: about the age, but I can still play. You know,

2182
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:05,799
Speaker 1: since I've been in the Bills, I've been a pro bowler,

2183
01:45:05,960 --> 01:45:08,840
Speaker 1: not no alternate in artists getting picked because somebody didn't

2184
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:11,599
Speaker 1: want to play. And you look at our team, I think,

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01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:14,240
Speaker 1: and the beginning of the the year, I mean, we've we've

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01:45:14,280 --> 01:45:16,280
Speaker 1: lost a lot, so I knew would be a tough year.

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01:45:16,640 --> 01:45:21,960
Speaker 1: Our best lineman, Richie Catneitou, he kind of retired due

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01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:25,439
Speaker 1: to a contract situation. I think our biggest puzzle to

2189
01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:28,080
Speaker 1: our office line Eric Wood he had a nick injury,

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01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:30,840
Speaker 1: he retired, and those two veterans, and then we trade

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01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:33,519
Speaker 1: Cordy Glenn, who was a pretty good left tackle. So

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01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:36,800
Speaker 1: there's three veteran guys with experience that league. I mean,

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01:45:37,360 --> 01:45:40,000
Speaker 1: people think, you just because of my resume and how

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01:45:40,040 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 1: good I've done in my career, I could just turn

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01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:44,120
Speaker 1: on and off, you know, and it's not like that.

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01:45:44,160 --> 01:45:47,000
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't play water Street. Also, you know

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01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:51,760
Speaker 1: when we had four starting quarterbacks in sixteen games, you know,

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01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:54,880
Speaker 1: and our superstar rookie got hurt a couple of games, So,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's a tough yo overall. But the good

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01:45:56,640 --> 01:46:01,599
Speaker 1: thing is I'll bounce back, you know, I always do. Yeah,

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01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:03,920
Speaker 1: he's confident they're gonna have a much better year this year.

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01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:05,559
Speaker 1: And there's not every reason to think that that's probably

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01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:07,400
Speaker 1: going to be the case. They're they're gonna give some

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01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:12,320
Speaker 1: draft picks, some resources, some free agent acquisitions. They're going

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01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:14,040
Speaker 1: to try and fill the holes on the offense to

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01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:17,120
Speaker 1: get Leshawn some help. And and and I don't think

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01:46:17,120 --> 01:46:19,640
Speaker 1: that anybody would deny that there were moments in this

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01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:22,720
Speaker 1: even in this struggling offense last season, that there were

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Speaker 1: moments when Lashawn showed he's still Leshawn McCoy absolutely, And

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Speaker 1: I thought he made a very good point. You know,

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01:46:29,640 --> 01:46:33,400
Speaker 1: I am still a premier talent at the running back

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01:46:33,439 --> 01:46:37,360
Speaker 1: position in this league. But this is the ultimate team sport.

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01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:39,880
Speaker 1: If you don't have people that can clear holes or

2214
01:46:39,920 --> 01:46:44,200
Speaker 1: even creases, you know, it doesn't matter how talented you are.

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01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:46,639
Speaker 1: If the holes are not there, you can't run through everybody,

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01:46:46,640 --> 01:46:49,479
Speaker 1: and especially him. That's not his running style. His running style,

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01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:52,479
Speaker 1: he's not a push the pile runner. He's an elusive

2218
01:46:52,560 --> 01:46:56,720
Speaker 1: making miss guy, and so I get it. And and

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01:46:56,800 --> 01:46:59,320
Speaker 1: you know where why our MSG viewers are watching footage

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01:46:59,360 --> 01:47:02,479
Speaker 1: of the New England game. Where I sit in the

2221
01:47:02,479 --> 01:47:06,519
Speaker 1: press box at Gillette Stadium is pretty much at the

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01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:09,760
Speaker 1: end of the stadium upper deck, because we're in the

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01:47:09,800 --> 01:47:13,840
Speaker 1: one far corner of the stadium, and you pretty much

2224
01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:17,280
Speaker 1: look down the length of the field, right and you know,

2225
01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:19,639
Speaker 1: for two quarters of that game, you know, we sit

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01:47:19,720 --> 01:47:22,120
Speaker 1: behind that Bill's offense. I'm sitting behind the offense and

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01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:25,080
Speaker 1: I kind of have a bird's eye view of what

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01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:28,000
Speaker 1: Leshaun McCoy is looking at after he gets handed the ball.

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01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:31,920
Speaker 1: There was a lot of patriots there weren't, I mean,

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01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:35,439
Speaker 1: not even a crack. And that was the case for

2231
01:47:35,560 --> 01:47:40,599
Speaker 1: much of the year. And you know, you have to believe,

2232
01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:44,400
Speaker 1: I mean, Lashawn McCoy, you know, as a captain on offense.

2233
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:46,120
Speaker 1: Sure does he have to say I think we're going

2234
01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:47,840
Speaker 1: to be better in twenty nineteen. Of course he does.

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01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:51,680
Speaker 1: That's the right thing to say publicly. But don't you

2236
01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:56,200
Speaker 1: think in exit interviews that whether it was Sean McDermott

2237
01:47:56,600 --> 01:48:00,520
Speaker 1: or running backs coach Kelly Skipper or Brandon being the GM,

2238
01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:04,680
Speaker 1: don't you think somebody said to him, Lashan, Look, we

2239
01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:08,840
Speaker 1: know this year didn't go very well. We're gonna do

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Speaker 1: better and we're gonna get you to help you need

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01:48:11,720 --> 01:48:13,679
Speaker 1: so you can be the running back that everybody expects

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01:48:13,680 --> 01:48:16,760
Speaker 1: you to be. Right. Think that's communicated to him like, oh,

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01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:19,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna get this fixed. Ye sure. Plus they also

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01:48:19,240 --> 01:48:21,120
Speaker 1: told him they well listen, we know that you've still

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01:48:21,160 --> 01:48:22,719
Speaker 1: got and you got to think too. That was probably

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01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:24,519
Speaker 1: one of those years. While it was sixteen games, it

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01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:26,240
Speaker 1: was still a training camp, it was still every day

2248
01:48:26,240 --> 01:48:30,439
Speaker 1: at practice. He didn't carry the ball four hundred times.

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01:48:30,600 --> 01:48:32,559
Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't like one of those years where

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Speaker 1: he was the bell cow and he did at Chris

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01:48:34,360 --> 01:48:37,960
Speaker 1: Ivory did a lot of the work as well, and

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01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:39,240
Speaker 1: they had, you know, they kind of did it by

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01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:41,360
Speaker 1: a committee like most teams do. So I don't think

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01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:43,840
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like, well, he's got He's a thirty

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01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:46,160
Speaker 1: one year old guy with a thirty seven year old body.

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01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:48,680
Speaker 1: I think he's still got a lot of tread on

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01:48:48,680 --> 01:48:51,080
Speaker 1: his tire. He still looks explosive to me, and obviously

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01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:52,720
Speaker 1: when you get him the ball in space, he's still

2259
01:48:52,760 --> 01:48:54,760
Speaker 1: shifty and looking back on it, I mean there was

2260
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:58,000
Speaker 1: a reason that Chris Ivory was as big a part

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01:48:58,000 --> 01:49:00,240
Speaker 1: of the run game as he was. I think the

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01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:04,000
Speaker 1: offensive I think the offensive staff recognized the holes are

2263
01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:07,920
Speaker 1: not there for Leshaun McCoy to exploit and use his elusiveness.

2264
01:49:08,240 --> 01:49:10,160
Speaker 1: So let's get the guy that can push the pile.

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01:49:10,520 --> 01:49:12,000
Speaker 1: So if the hole isn't there, at least we can

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01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:15,280
Speaker 1: get a yard or maybe two and stay on schedule

2267
01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:17,880
Speaker 1: in terms of down and distance. And you know, Chris Ivory,

2268
01:49:17,880 --> 01:49:20,360
Speaker 1: to his credit, served this team well. I thought in

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01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:23,800
Speaker 1: his first year here, he's still under contract for now.

2270
01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:29,120
Speaker 1: You know what the future is. Who knows, but I

2271
01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:32,080
Speaker 1: I thought that was a very telling thing that Chris

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01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:36,320
Speaker 1: Ivory was often utilized. I think due in part to

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01:49:36,360 --> 01:49:38,680
Speaker 1: the fact that holes could not be opened up on

2274
01:49:38,720 --> 01:49:41,439
Speaker 1: a consistent basis. And he's more of a North South

2275
01:49:41,479 --> 01:49:43,760
Speaker 1: guy than Lashawan is. So if the holes are not

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01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:45,240
Speaker 1: going to be there, use the guy that can push

2277
01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:46,720
Speaker 1: the pile at least get a yard or two and

2278
01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:48,960
Speaker 1: stay on schedule. So what do you think about What

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01:49:49,080 --> 01:49:51,320
Speaker 1: excites you most about the Buffalo Bills offseason is the

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01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:53,840
Speaker 1: free agent market, is that the draft picks. The ten

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01:49:53,960 --> 01:49:55,400
Speaker 1: draft picks of the Bills are going to pick in

2282
01:49:55,439 --> 01:49:58,479
Speaker 1: April or the is it the actual possibility they make

2283
01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:01,000
Speaker 1: make a blockbuster trade or even a trade for a

2284
01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:03,599
Speaker 1: low round draft pick that turns into a guy that

2285
01:50:03,640 --> 01:50:06,559
Speaker 1: really contributes. From sipping the kool aid on the tweet sheet,

2286
01:50:06,800 --> 01:50:08,760
Speaker 1: he says, I voted for free agency, but the thing

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01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:10,880
Speaker 1: that I will be focusing on is how they build

2288
01:50:11,080 --> 01:50:14,800
Speaker 1: or develop an athletic offensive line. To me, it should

2289
01:50:14,840 --> 01:50:18,200
Speaker 1: be the number one priority. Josh Allen will be very good,

2290
01:50:18,240 --> 01:50:20,519
Speaker 1: if not great, quarterback, and if we can protect him

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01:50:20,560 --> 01:50:24,200
Speaker 1: and give him the time to make great plays. So

2292
01:50:25,120 --> 01:50:29,280
Speaker 1: and that seems obviously as well. But listen, running the

2293
01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:32,880
Speaker 1: football is difficult in the NFL because most teams get

2294
01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:34,680
Speaker 1: off the bus being able to stop the run at

2295
01:50:34,760 --> 01:50:37,960
Speaker 1: some point, right, But they got to be able to

2296
01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:40,320
Speaker 1: protect the quarterback. But that's why I think what Brian

2297
01:50:40,439 --> 01:50:43,439
Speaker 1: Dable is going to be after in terms of offensive

2298
01:50:43,520 --> 01:50:48,880
Speaker 1: lineman are size guys who have athleticism. You know, you've

2299
01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:50,840
Speaker 1: got to have enough size, but I think there has

2300
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:53,439
Speaker 1: to be an athletic component that goes with that. Mobile

2301
01:50:53,560 --> 01:50:57,479
Speaker 1: people that can execute multiple schemes. Because what New England does,

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01:50:58,240 --> 01:50:59,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I don't have to tell you this,

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01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:01,800
Speaker 1: But what New England does is they will change their

2304
01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:04,280
Speaker 1: blocking schemes from one week to the next, one game

2305
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:07,920
Speaker 1: to the next. You know, they'll be screen heavy one

2306
01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:09,760
Speaker 1: week and then the next week they're running traps all

2307
01:51:09,800 --> 01:51:11,840
Speaker 1: over the place, and then the next week and I

2308
01:51:11,880 --> 01:51:14,000
Speaker 1: think Brian Dabele would like to do that as well. Well,

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01:51:14,040 --> 01:51:17,400
Speaker 1: you can't do that if you don't have linemen who

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01:51:17,439 --> 01:51:22,320
Speaker 1: are versatile enough two morph and change with your game

2311
01:51:22,360 --> 01:51:24,840
Speaker 1: plan from one week to the next. It's not just

2312
01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:27,360
Speaker 1: about the athletic ability either, it's about the ability to

2313
01:51:27,360 --> 01:51:30,519
Speaker 1: do it upstairs. Well, yes, that's too, and also the

2314
01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:33,240
Speaker 1: ability to get out and run and be an athlete

2315
01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:36,080
Speaker 1: like you're saying, and also just pushing a guy out,

2316
01:51:36,280 --> 01:51:37,960
Speaker 1: I mean, just rooting him out of there. How many

2317
01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:39,760
Speaker 1: times on this show did you have fans calling up

2318
01:51:39,800 --> 01:51:42,439
Speaker 1: say why don't they run more screens? They couldn't run

2319
01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:45,040
Speaker 1: a screen run. They couldn't run a screen because they

2320
01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:47,960
Speaker 1: couldn't get linemen out effectively enough in space. The offensive

2321
01:51:47,960 --> 01:51:50,160
Speaker 1: lineman couldn't run. Yeah, you didn't have enough. You had

2322
01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:53,800
Speaker 1: one or two mobile guys and you'll lost one of

2323
01:51:53,840 --> 01:51:56,000
Speaker 1: them in Bodine when he went down with the leg injury.

2324
01:51:56,120 --> 01:51:59,000
Speaker 1: So you know, you say, well, why aren't you? And

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01:51:59,080 --> 01:52:01,760
Speaker 1: that's why for a good portion of this year. You know,

2326
01:52:01,800 --> 01:52:05,080
Speaker 1: I talked about how Brian Table was pretty much putting

2327
01:52:05,080 --> 01:52:07,400
Speaker 1: game plans together and calling plays one hand tied behind

2328
01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:09,360
Speaker 1: his back. Oh. Absolutely, there's no question about it. They

2329
01:52:09,360 --> 01:52:11,439
Speaker 1: were not. And Sean McDermott, you heard it in all

2330
01:52:11,479 --> 01:52:15,160
Speaker 1: the interviews that he had during the season that he said, listen,

2331
01:52:15,160 --> 01:52:17,799
Speaker 1: we're not winning enough up front, and it was became

2332
01:52:18,200 --> 01:52:21,479
Speaker 1: kind of a constant mantra that broken record. Unfortuneah, we

2333
01:52:21,960 --> 01:52:25,040
Speaker 1: just couldn't win the line of scrimmage enough offensively to

2334
01:52:25,120 --> 01:52:27,320
Speaker 1: get it done. Now, certainly the defensive line they were

2335
01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:29,360
Speaker 1: getting it done for in large part they were the

2336
01:52:29,400 --> 01:52:33,120
Speaker 1: number two overall defense in the league. And and we're

2337
01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:37,680
Speaker 1: solid as a rock for the most part. But you know,

2338
01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:39,519
Speaker 1: this was an offense that struggled to move the ball

2339
01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:41,479
Speaker 1: and struggled to score points. Far too offense. So let

2340
01:52:41,520 --> 01:52:43,760
Speaker 1: us started up front. So let's ballpark this a little.

2341
01:52:44,040 --> 01:52:46,160
Speaker 1: We know that John Miller is a free agent. We

2342
01:52:46,240 --> 01:52:49,080
Speaker 1: know that Jordan Mills is a free agent. I'm trying

2343
01:52:49,080 --> 01:52:50,920
Speaker 1: to think off the top of Ryan Groy is a

2344
01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:54,680
Speaker 1: free agent Jeremiah Searles was just signed, just signed a

2345
01:52:54,800 --> 01:52:57,559
Speaker 1: right So we know we've got three players who played

2346
01:52:57,720 --> 01:52:59,960
Speaker 1: a good amount of snaps this year who are free agent.

2347
01:53:01,280 --> 01:53:04,160
Speaker 1: We know they want to do better overall with the

2348
01:53:04,200 --> 01:53:08,600
Speaker 1: offensive line group and upgrade the position. So if you

2349
01:53:08,680 --> 01:53:14,000
Speaker 1: had to ballpark it, how many new faces when the

2350
01:53:14,040 --> 01:53:17,040
Speaker 1: fifty three man rosters complete do you think are in

2351
01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:19,479
Speaker 1: the offensive line room compared to last year? How many

2352
01:53:19,520 --> 01:53:22,920
Speaker 1: new faces are in there? Well, if they keep eight

2353
01:53:23,000 --> 01:53:24,960
Speaker 1: guys and we have a list right here on our

2354
01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:28,320
Speaker 1: screen of well, those are all the unrestricted free agents. Yeah,

2355
01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:30,639
Speaker 1: these are the unrestricted free agents John Miller, Ryan Groy,

2356
01:53:30,760 --> 01:53:35,160
Speaker 1: Jordan Mills, Deontay Thompson. These are that's everybody. That's everybody,

2357
01:53:35,200 --> 01:53:40,800
Speaker 1: that's Taiwan. Okay. So if you've got Miller, Groy, and

2358
01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:45,599
Speaker 1: Mills and ten draft choices and you're keeping eight guy,

2359
01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:48,800
Speaker 1: eight offensive linemen eight nine somewhere. They kept ten last

2360
01:53:48,840 --> 01:53:50,679
Speaker 1: year for more than half the season, but I would

2361
01:53:50,720 --> 01:53:53,800
Speaker 1: say nine is probably a safe number. And how many

2362
01:53:53,800 --> 01:53:56,400
Speaker 1: of the guys are they're going to keep Deon Dawkins,

2363
01:53:56,400 --> 01:53:58,080
Speaker 1: who I say there's going to be at least five

2364
01:53:58,160 --> 01:54:02,519
Speaker 1: new names. Five So like fifty percent turnover. Yeah, yeah,

2365
01:54:03,000 --> 01:54:05,160
Speaker 1: I think so. I think you know, some of these

2366
01:54:05,160 --> 01:54:09,960
Speaker 1: guys like Groy, uh Mills, and uh Miller, well even

2367
01:54:09,960 --> 01:54:12,160
Speaker 1: Miller sometimes some of the Miller was there kind of

2368
01:54:12,160 --> 01:54:15,679
Speaker 1: plugged in at right tackle, but Groy and Mills, along

2369
01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:19,599
Speaker 1: with Bodine, they kind of all switched around and they

2370
01:54:19,600 --> 01:54:21,799
Speaker 1: were in and out and out, and Levi and Wyatt

2371
01:54:21,840 --> 01:54:23,639
Speaker 1: Teller was also a guy that plugged in and out

2372
01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:26,040
Speaker 1: here late in the season he got in. Uh So

2373
01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:29,120
Speaker 1: they all were starters and backups at a certain point

2374
01:54:29,120 --> 01:54:30,960
Speaker 1: of the season because they were trying to find a

2375
01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:33,680
Speaker 1: combination that worked. I mean, really, the only constants were

2376
01:54:33,680 --> 01:54:37,879
Speaker 1: Mills at right tackle, Dawkins at left tackle. Um everybody

2377
01:54:37,880 --> 01:54:41,360
Speaker 1: in between was in and out. Bodie didn't start the year.

2378
01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:43,920
Speaker 1: He got in later, and they kind of settled down

2379
01:54:43,920 --> 01:54:47,160
Speaker 1: when he got in there. But yeah, i'd say if

2380
01:54:47,160 --> 01:54:49,480
Speaker 1: they're if they're keeping ten guys like they did last year,

2381
01:54:49,520 --> 01:54:51,480
Speaker 1: for five of them are gonna be brand new, You're

2382
01:54:51,480 --> 01:54:54,400
Speaker 1: looking about a fifty percent turnover with a new line

2383
01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:56,920
Speaker 1: coach on top of that, so you know, you know

2384
01:54:57,040 --> 01:54:59,800
Speaker 1: that it's gonna take some time for that thing to

2385
01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:03,920
Speaker 1: get pulled together again. This year. So while change could

2386
01:55:03,920 --> 01:55:07,760
Speaker 1: be good in the long run, there's going to be

2387
01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:10,240
Speaker 1: an exercise at work there. Yeah, but here's the thing, Brownie,

2388
01:55:10,360 --> 01:55:12,960
Speaker 1: and I get it, but I'm and I'm always Oscar

2389
01:55:13,040 --> 01:55:16,920
Speaker 1: optimist here, I'll admit it. Oscar okay, right, So right,

2390
01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:21,680
Speaker 1: so the alliteration is the thing. Yeah, I think if

2391
01:55:21,680 --> 01:55:27,120
Speaker 1: you get five better players and it does take them

2392
01:55:27,120 --> 01:55:29,720
Speaker 1: a while to gel, if they're all better players, you're

2393
01:55:29,720 --> 01:55:31,920
Speaker 1: going to be better right away. And when they get gel,

2394
01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:33,920
Speaker 1: when they gel and kind of get it, canna be

2395
01:55:33,960 --> 01:55:38,760
Speaker 1: good because they they were not good last year. Uh

2396
01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:41,720
Speaker 1: and they and if they get better players immediately, they're

2397
01:55:41,720 --> 01:55:45,560
Speaker 1: gonna be better. And then if they gel and come together,

2398
01:55:45,680 --> 01:55:47,720
Speaker 1: and if they can stay healthy like these two Super

2399
01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:50,760
Speaker 1: Bowl teams are able to do, that's when you can

2400
01:55:50,880 --> 01:55:52,880
Speaker 1: you can start to evolve as an offense real quick.

2401
01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:56,000
Speaker 1: But when don't you think, based on the versatility that

2402
01:55:56,080 --> 01:55:58,360
Speaker 1: Brian Dable's probably gonna need out of his lineman, that

2403
01:55:58,760 --> 01:56:03,280
Speaker 1: they're going to be targeting athletic types. You know, I'm

2404
01:56:03,280 --> 01:56:06,640
Speaker 1: not saying underweight guys. Remember the old Denver lines guys

2405
01:56:06,640 --> 01:56:10,640
Speaker 1: were like two ninety and uh, Alex Gibbs zone blocking scheme.

2406
01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:12,600
Speaker 1: They were the weight of nineteen eighties. Guy, Yeah, I

2407
01:56:12,600 --> 01:56:14,240
Speaker 1: don't think it's I don't think it's gonna be like that.

2408
01:56:14,360 --> 01:56:18,040
Speaker 1: But from an athleticism standpoint, don't you think there's gonna

2409
01:56:18,040 --> 01:56:20,400
Speaker 1: be a certain measure of versatility they're gonna need in

2410
01:56:20,400 --> 01:56:24,240
Speaker 1: the people they want to look for a target? Ad? Yeah,

2411
01:56:24,520 --> 01:56:26,360
Speaker 1: I agree, And there's gonna be a certain type and

2412
01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:29,120
Speaker 1: they've got all these qualifications since it's all the perfect world.

2413
01:56:29,320 --> 01:56:31,360
Speaker 1: The problem is, Brownie, they're picking from the same pool

2414
01:56:31,400 --> 01:56:32,960
Speaker 1: of players in the free agent market that every other

2415
01:56:33,160 --> 01:56:36,000
Speaker 1: thirty one other teams are gonna be picking from. And now,

2416
01:56:36,160 --> 01:56:38,800
Speaker 1: certainly they've got money to spend, But you don't want

2417
01:56:38,840 --> 01:56:41,520
Speaker 1: to spend fifteen million bucks a year on a left guard.

2418
01:56:41,680 --> 01:56:44,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. It's just that's overvaluing the position. Yes it is.

2419
01:56:45,240 --> 01:56:47,360
Speaker 1: And you know, to get the guy you want now,

2420
01:56:47,360 --> 01:56:49,120
Speaker 1: he may be great, you may get a pro bowler

2421
01:56:49,200 --> 01:56:50,880
Speaker 1: out of him, but all of a sudden, you got

2422
01:56:50,880 --> 01:56:54,080
Speaker 1: a pro bowl guard and you've got um, you know,

2423
01:56:54,200 --> 01:56:56,720
Speaker 1: Charlie sixpack playing your third wide receiver, you know what

2424
01:56:56,800 --> 01:56:58,640
Speaker 1: I mean. So you've got to spend one. I don't

2425
01:56:58,640 --> 01:57:01,480
Speaker 1: think you can't over band at one position, and you

2426
01:57:01,480 --> 01:57:04,160
Speaker 1: can't even overspend for one position group. So if you

2427
01:57:04,200 --> 01:57:06,520
Speaker 1: do get one guy who's a superstar, if you can

2428
01:57:06,720 --> 01:57:09,480
Speaker 1: offset his big salary with guys who are on their

2429
01:57:09,480 --> 01:57:11,520
Speaker 1: first contract or what are like Wyatt Tellers and that

2430
01:57:11,600 --> 01:57:14,520
Speaker 1: kind of guy, maybe you got a chance. I don't know.

2431
01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:16,960
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a fun off season. I think it's

2432
01:57:16,960 --> 01:57:19,960
Speaker 1: gonna They're gonna be very active. Yeah, and I think

2433
01:57:20,520 --> 01:57:25,360
Speaker 1: the draft is gonna be utilized in a fairly sizeable

2434
01:57:25,440 --> 01:57:28,840
Speaker 1: way to address some of these deficiencies. I think they're

2435
01:57:28,840 --> 01:57:30,920
Speaker 1: gonna try to upgrade there. I'll bet you they. I'll

2436
01:57:30,920 --> 01:57:33,520
Speaker 1: bet you they make some trades on Draft Day, you think,

2437
01:57:33,560 --> 01:57:36,320
Speaker 1: to position themselves to get the people they want. It

2438
01:57:36,440 --> 01:57:38,320
Speaker 1: might be some of them might be sideways moves, you

2439
01:57:38,320 --> 01:57:39,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean, just to make sure they don't.

2440
01:57:39,880 --> 01:57:42,760
Speaker 1: I mean, they have ten draft choices, but seven of

2441
01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:45,280
Speaker 1: them are in round four and later. I mean all

2442
01:57:45,320 --> 01:57:49,760
Speaker 1: of their multiple picks and rounds are four or five. Yeah, Yeah,

2443
01:57:49,800 --> 01:57:51,360
Speaker 1: I mean I think they have three five. They got

2444
01:57:51,400 --> 01:57:53,840
Speaker 1: a bunch of fourth, fifth, and sixth rounders. Yeah. They

2445
01:57:53,880 --> 01:57:56,520
Speaker 1: only have one pick in each of the first three rounds,

2446
01:57:56,880 --> 01:57:58,840
Speaker 1: all of which are in the top seventy five, which

2447
01:57:58,880 --> 01:58:02,680
Speaker 1: is great. Yeah, but they don't have those multiple picks

2448
01:58:02,680 --> 01:58:05,320
Speaker 1: in rounds one, two, and three. All right, well, what

2449
01:58:05,480 --> 01:58:07,440
Speaker 1: excites you about the Bills off season? Is it the

2450
01:58:07,440 --> 01:58:09,640
Speaker 1: free agent market, the draft, or is it the trade

2451
01:58:09,720 --> 01:58:11,960
Speaker 1: possibility of a trade? Colin, let us know. We're if

2452
01:58:11,960 --> 01:58:15,200
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2453
01:58:15,240 --> 01:58:17,280
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. We'll be right back after

2454
01:58:17,320 --> 01:58:30,440
Speaker 1: the break. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Steeve Tasker

2455
01:58:30,480 --> 01:58:33,480
Speaker 1: and Chris Brown here in our One Bill's Drive studios

2456
01:58:33,560 --> 01:58:35,640
Speaker 1: in Orchard Park, New York. We've got our guy John

2457
01:58:35,680 --> 01:58:39,120
Speaker 1: Murphy down in Mobile, Alabama. He got back to us

2458
01:58:39,160 --> 01:58:45,160
Speaker 1: with interviews from Assistant GM Joe Shane and Director of

2459
01:58:45,160 --> 01:58:47,720
Speaker 1: Player Personnel Dan Morgan. Two pretty good interviews we'll hear

2460
01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:49,400
Speaker 1: from a little later. We'll go back to and you

2461
01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:51,919
Speaker 1: can go to the website One Bill's Drive, One Bills

2462
01:58:51,960 --> 01:58:55,720
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Buffalo Bills dot Com and listen to those

2463
01:58:55,760 --> 01:58:58,400
Speaker 1: in their entirety as well. We've been talking a little

2464
01:58:58,440 --> 01:59:01,360
Speaker 1: bit in this last segment about offensive line, where they're

2465
01:59:01,360 --> 01:59:04,400
Speaker 1: going to go and what they what Brian Dables philosophy is.

2466
01:59:04,400 --> 01:59:07,640
Speaker 1: We've got a call or Jason from South Caroline and

2467
01:59:07,720 --> 01:59:11,480
Speaker 1: he thinks that the loss of Eric Wood is still

2468
01:59:11,560 --> 01:59:14,760
Speaker 1: haunting the Bills. Jason, you're on with Chris and Steve.

2469
01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:18,280
Speaker 1: What's on your mind? Hey, good afternoon. How y'all doing

2470
01:59:18,440 --> 01:59:22,840
Speaker 1: doing good? Good? Yeah? Um, I wanted to talk about

2471
01:59:23,320 --> 01:59:26,240
Speaker 1: Eric Wood and his leadership. UM. And I know he

2472
01:59:26,280 --> 01:59:28,720
Speaker 1: had some injuries and stuff, but he really seemed like

2473
01:59:28,760 --> 01:59:32,160
Speaker 1: he was mentally there and leading, um, you know the

2474
01:59:32,240 --> 01:59:36,760
Speaker 1: offensive line. Um, he's pretty cool, dude. Um. You know

2475
01:59:36,840 --> 01:59:39,440
Speaker 1: kind of where we um, where are we going with

2476
01:59:39,640 --> 01:59:42,520
Speaker 1: you know, the mental thought process. I thought Gray would

2477
01:59:42,640 --> 01:59:44,920
Speaker 1: kind of pick it up, but it didn't turn out

2478
01:59:44,920 --> 01:59:47,680
Speaker 1: to be. And I know John Miller from U L

2479
01:59:48,080 --> 01:59:51,560
Speaker 1: was on his side. Um, but you know, we kind

2480
01:59:51,600 --> 01:59:54,280
Speaker 1: of needs somebody who's you know, really mentally sharp. Um,

2481
01:59:54,400 --> 01:59:58,280
Speaker 1: not only athletically gifted, but it just has it upstairs. UM.

2482
01:59:58,320 --> 02:00:00,080
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if y'all have anybody in mind and

2483
02:00:00,120 --> 02:00:02,320
Speaker 1: that we might be able to get. Yeah, that's a

2484
02:00:02,320 --> 02:00:04,880
Speaker 1: good question. Thanks for the call, Jason. I appreciate he's right.

2485
02:00:05,240 --> 02:00:08,360
Speaker 1: The thing about it is that spot and I was,

2486
02:00:08,520 --> 02:00:10,160
Speaker 1: you know, and when I was playing, we had the

2487
02:00:10,200 --> 02:00:12,400
Speaker 1: best center of all time. In my opinion, Kent Hall,

2488
02:00:12,440 --> 02:00:19,680
Speaker 1: who was incredibly bright, incredibly intelligent, and incredibly tough and gifted,

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02:00:19,680 --> 02:00:21,320
Speaker 1: and he was all of that and so I and

2490
02:00:21,480 --> 02:00:23,280
Speaker 1: you're right. All the guys I've known who have been

2491
02:00:23,320 --> 02:00:28,160
Speaker 1: good centers in the NFL, you know, they're they're PhDs.

2492
02:00:28,640 --> 02:00:30,680
Speaker 1: They've got that kind of intelligence, They've got that kind

2493
02:00:30,680 --> 02:00:33,760
Speaker 1: of articulation, they've got that kind of commitment, they've got

2494
02:00:33,760 --> 02:00:35,640
Speaker 1: that kind of level of knowledge about the offense they're

2495
02:00:35,720 --> 02:00:37,280
Speaker 1: running as well. I mean, that's the kind of guy

2496
02:00:37,280 --> 02:00:40,000
Speaker 1: you're looking for. You looking for a doctor of football

2497
02:00:40,080 --> 02:00:41,880
Speaker 1: to be there with his hands on the ball before

2498
02:00:41,880 --> 02:00:44,160
Speaker 1: every snap. I mean, there are some guys in this

2499
02:00:44,400 --> 02:00:47,760
Speaker 1: draft pool that they are going to target. I mean

2500
02:00:47,800 --> 02:00:49,840
Speaker 1: everybody thinks, oh, they gotta get a tackle, they gotta

2501
02:00:49,840 --> 02:00:52,680
Speaker 1: get a tackle, you gotta get one early. I mean,

2502
02:00:52,960 --> 02:00:55,600
Speaker 1: more and more you're seeing, especially on Day two with

2503
02:00:55,640 --> 02:00:58,520
Speaker 1: a draft, a lot of guards and centers are coming

2504
02:00:58,560 --> 02:01:02,080
Speaker 1: off the board here because you know, with the way

2505
02:01:02,120 --> 02:01:05,640
Speaker 1: offenses are being run now, these RPOs having to make

2506
02:01:05,720 --> 02:01:10,440
Speaker 1: checks complicated defensive fronts exactly. I mean, you need a

2507
02:01:10,520 --> 02:01:13,440
Speaker 1: sharp guy in the pivot there to kind of run

2508
02:01:13,480 --> 02:01:16,760
Speaker 1: traffic for your quarterback. So he doesn't have to worry

2509
02:01:16,760 --> 02:01:19,520
Speaker 1: about it or get it corrected because the center's out

2510
02:01:19,520 --> 02:01:21,200
Speaker 1: to launch. And that's the thing as well. I mean,

2511
02:01:21,200 --> 02:01:25,120
Speaker 1: I remember, it hasn't changed. The offense that was at

2512
02:01:25,160 --> 02:01:26,600
Speaker 1: the cutting edge when I was playing was the k

2513
02:01:26,720 --> 02:01:29,120
Speaker 1: gun offense with Jim Kelly and his center Kent Hull,

2514
02:01:30,080 --> 02:01:33,240
Speaker 1: who's a close friend of mine and all of ours.

2515
02:01:33,920 --> 02:01:37,600
Speaker 1: The trust that was there with a good center like

2516
02:01:37,880 --> 02:01:41,680
Speaker 1: Kent and a gut quarterback like Jim Kelly. And there

2517
02:01:41,760 --> 02:01:44,440
Speaker 1: was the same relationship with the guy who's the Hall

2518
02:01:44,480 --> 02:01:47,040
Speaker 1: of Famer in Miami, with Dan Marino and now his

2519
02:01:47,200 --> 02:01:51,960
Speaker 1: Dwight Stevens White Stevenson in Miami. The relationship was there

2520
02:01:51,960 --> 02:01:55,919
Speaker 1: as well. Those two guys. Kent Hall, I remember vividly,

2521
02:01:56,280 --> 02:01:58,560
Speaker 1: would turn around and look at Jim and shake his

2522
02:01:58,640 --> 02:02:00,560
Speaker 1: head and wave Jim off a play that he had

2523
02:02:00,600 --> 02:02:03,080
Speaker 1: called these dude, don't run that. And that was just Jim,

2524
02:02:03,120 --> 02:02:05,280
Speaker 1: you know, Jim being a swashbucklers saying I'm gonna run this.

2525
02:02:05,280 --> 02:02:07,000
Speaker 1: This is going to work, you know, and can't turn

2526
02:02:07,000 --> 02:02:10,520
Speaker 1: around and say don't run that. And Jim wouldn't miss

2527
02:02:10,520 --> 02:02:12,120
Speaker 1: a beat. He'd just wave it off and go to

2528
02:02:12,160 --> 02:02:17,160
Speaker 1: something else. The trust factor is so vital between a

2529
02:02:17,480 --> 02:02:21,280
Speaker 1: quarterback and a center because every it's so complicated. You

2530
02:02:21,320 --> 02:02:24,040
Speaker 1: need to spread out the responsibilities. And the first guy

2531
02:02:24,080 --> 02:02:26,000
Speaker 1: you spread it to is the guy snapping the football.

2532
02:02:26,000 --> 02:02:28,040
Speaker 1: Because he's in the middle, he knows where the strength

2533
02:02:28,160 --> 02:02:30,400
Speaker 1: is of the formation, and he can see the front.

2534
02:02:30,440 --> 02:02:33,280
Speaker 1: So he's the logical guy you do that with. And

2535
02:02:33,800 --> 02:02:36,160
Speaker 1: you need a good one whose lights are on. And

2536
02:02:36,280 --> 02:02:38,880
Speaker 1: Eric Wood was the first round pick. I mean he

2537
02:02:38,920 --> 02:02:42,000
Speaker 1: was drafted and he played guard his rookie year, you know,

2538
02:02:42,000 --> 02:02:43,960
Speaker 1: because they had a veteran center here already. I believe

2539
02:02:43,960 --> 02:02:47,720
Speaker 1: it's Jeff hand Gardner. M But I mean he was

2540
02:02:47,800 --> 02:02:50,360
Speaker 1: center the very next year because it became wholly evident

2541
02:02:50,440 --> 02:02:52,280
Speaker 1: that that was probably where he was going to best

2542
02:02:52,280 --> 02:02:55,880
Speaker 1: serve this football team. Yeah. So it's not out of

2543
02:02:55,920 --> 02:02:58,520
Speaker 1: the realm of possibility that you draft an interior offensive

2544
02:02:58,520 --> 02:03:01,920
Speaker 1: lineman in the first round. We've seen it happen before. Um, well,

2545
02:03:02,040 --> 02:03:03,560
Speaker 1: but I think did it last year and they got

2546
02:03:03,600 --> 02:03:06,640
Speaker 1: a pro bowler. Well, well, yeah, and he's a guard.

2547
02:03:06,640 --> 02:03:09,800
Speaker 1: But that's fine. Totally on board with that. H That

2548
02:03:09,880 --> 02:03:12,240
Speaker 1: guy's like, yeah, I'm totally on board with drafting a

2549
02:03:12,240 --> 02:03:14,320
Speaker 1: pro bowler. I'm totally on board with I mean, that

2550
02:03:14,320 --> 02:03:18,160
Speaker 1: guy can wreck people. I mean he just neutralizes anybody

2551
02:03:18,360 --> 02:03:20,600
Speaker 1: m and he's gonna do that for the next ten

2552
02:03:20,680 --> 02:03:24,040
Speaker 1: years if he stays healthy. But in this draft class,

2553
02:03:24,080 --> 02:03:27,240
Speaker 1: I think that's where they're going to be looking for that.

2554
02:03:27,640 --> 02:03:30,920
Speaker 1: Quentin Nelson's name. Yeah, they're gonna be looking for that.

2555
02:03:31,040 --> 02:03:35,040
Speaker 1: And I think it's because, you know, again, like Steve said,

2556
02:03:36,080 --> 02:03:39,040
Speaker 1: you're not in the market to pay ten million dollars

2557
02:03:39,040 --> 02:03:44,880
Speaker 1: for an interior offensive lineman. The value just doesn't compute.

2558
02:03:46,960 --> 02:03:49,600
Speaker 1: And so you know, you might spend money on a

2559
02:03:49,640 --> 02:03:52,160
Speaker 1: tackle to keep the best pass rushers off your quarterback,

2560
02:03:52,800 --> 02:03:55,880
Speaker 1: but with those interior guys, you want to find them

2561
02:03:55,880 --> 02:03:57,720
Speaker 1: in the draft and then groom them from there and

2562
02:03:57,760 --> 02:03:59,920
Speaker 1: then hold on to them. Yeah, so you have the

2563
02:04:00,200 --> 02:04:03,880
Speaker 1: positions addressed filled by competent people that have the athletic

2564
02:04:03,960 --> 02:04:07,240
Speaker 1: ability and the stuff between the years you need to

2565
02:04:07,320 --> 02:04:09,800
Speaker 1: run your front. Nobody nobody likes hearing it, but it

2566
02:04:09,800 --> 02:04:12,160
Speaker 1: really is. And I believe this because it's my experience

2567
02:04:12,160 --> 02:04:14,480
Speaker 1: and my observation on nobody else. You don't have to

2568
02:04:14,520 --> 02:04:16,720
Speaker 1: agree with me with this my opinion. Listen, everybody on

2569
02:04:16,760 --> 02:04:20,040
Speaker 1: the team gets better when your offensive line is great,

2570
02:04:20,320 --> 02:04:22,880
Speaker 1: your quarterbacks better, your wide receivers are better. It's not

2571
02:04:22,960 --> 02:04:24,960
Speaker 1: sexy to talk about you, don't you always want to

2572
02:04:24,960 --> 02:04:29,000
Speaker 1: get a Julio Jones in rather than Maurice Pouncey. And

2573
02:04:29,080 --> 02:04:31,280
Speaker 1: you know one of those guys you an offensive guard.

2574
02:04:31,480 --> 02:04:33,680
Speaker 1: You know it's always better to have a big, strong,

2575
02:04:34,600 --> 02:04:38,080
Speaker 1: a one wide receiver. Buty thinks than having an offensive line,

2576
02:04:38,560 --> 02:04:41,480
Speaker 1: and I can't disagree more. I think you need five

2577
02:04:41,640 --> 02:04:44,080
Speaker 1: guys up front that are going to be difference makers

2578
02:04:44,120 --> 02:04:48,400
Speaker 1: and your whole team evolves from there. True false Time

2579
02:04:48,520 --> 02:04:51,320
Speaker 1: are you ready? I'm ready? All right? NFL? True false?

2580
02:04:52,200 --> 02:04:54,520
Speaker 1: Hold on, let me get am I supposed to do

2581
02:04:54,560 --> 02:04:56,080
Speaker 1: a read here? I think we are? I don't know.

2582
02:04:56,120 --> 02:04:59,560
Speaker 1: Here we go NFL. True false by Nancy's fancy Americans

2583
02:04:59,600 --> 02:05:02,080
Speaker 1: are Western New York's Artistan tea cheese. All right, here

2584
02:05:02,160 --> 02:05:05,680
Speaker 1: we go. Lashawn McCoy will bounce back in twenty nineteen.

2585
02:05:05,680 --> 02:05:08,920
Speaker 1: True or false? Yeah, I mean we heard from him

2586
02:05:08,960 --> 02:05:11,800
Speaker 1: earlier this hour commenting on that he certainly thinks he will.

2587
02:05:11,840 --> 02:05:15,240
Speaker 1: I gotta believe that. In his exit interviews with Brandon

2588
02:05:15,320 --> 02:05:19,520
Speaker 1: Bean coach McDermott. You know, I gotta believe that he

2589
02:05:19,640 --> 02:05:21,680
Speaker 1: was told, hey, we're gonna get you to help up front,

2590
02:05:21,680 --> 02:05:23,760
Speaker 1: that you're gonna need to be the back that you

2591
02:05:23,840 --> 02:05:25,320
Speaker 1: know you can be, and we know you can be.

2592
02:05:27,040 --> 02:05:29,640
Speaker 1: I mean, we're I think if you say true here,

2593
02:05:29,720 --> 02:05:32,520
Speaker 1: you're putting your faith in the front office, in the

2594
02:05:32,520 --> 02:05:35,600
Speaker 1: personnel department to get the upgrades and the answers that

2595
02:05:35,640 --> 02:05:39,640
Speaker 1: they need upfront to make Lashawn McCoy an effective back

2596
02:05:39,680 --> 02:05:42,440
Speaker 1: again and have a bounce back season. I'll say true,

2597
02:05:42,440 --> 02:05:44,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put my faith in the front office here

2598
02:05:44,400 --> 02:05:47,120
Speaker 1: and say yes, he will have a bounce back yere

2599
02:05:47,120 --> 02:05:49,320
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. Quite frankly, it can't be a whole

2600
02:05:49,360 --> 02:05:51,360
Speaker 1: lot worse than what do you have. I think he

2601
02:05:51,400 --> 02:05:54,160
Speaker 1: had barely five hundred yards yeah, rushing. I agree. I'm

2602
02:05:54,160 --> 02:05:56,880
Speaker 1: gonna say true. I think there's gonna be a huge

2603
02:05:56,920 --> 02:05:59,320
Speaker 1: concerted effort to give him a chance to be successful.

2604
02:05:59,320 --> 02:06:01,160
Speaker 1: They're gonna put the people around him and in front

2605
02:06:01,160 --> 02:06:03,120
Speaker 1: of him, and I think Josh Allen's going to be

2606
02:06:03,200 --> 02:06:04,880
Speaker 1: much better as well, which will open things up. I

2607
02:06:04,920 --> 02:06:06,520
Speaker 1: think the passing game is going to get better. I

2608
02:06:06,520 --> 02:06:09,360
Speaker 1: think the entire offense will get an uptick, and if

2609
02:06:09,560 --> 02:06:11,520
Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy is healthy and in there. I don't think

2610
02:06:11,560 --> 02:06:14,920
Speaker 1: it's any question. It's a true all right, NFL true false.

2611
02:06:15,040 --> 02:06:17,280
Speaker 1: Number two, the Browns are ready for a breakout season

2612
02:06:17,360 --> 02:06:21,120
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. They've finished five and two down the

2613
02:06:21,160 --> 02:06:23,800
Speaker 1: stretch with an ingram head coach and Greg Williams, and

2614
02:06:23,880 --> 02:06:26,560
Speaker 1: now they've moved their offensive coordinator, Freddie Kitchens to the

2615
02:06:26,560 --> 02:06:28,960
Speaker 1: head coaching slot. What do you think, true or false?

2616
02:06:29,000 --> 02:06:31,080
Speaker 1: The Browns will do are going to have a breakout

2617
02:06:31,080 --> 02:06:32,920
Speaker 1: seas well. I will say this, what is going to

2618
02:06:32,960 --> 02:06:36,040
Speaker 1: help the Browns at least as I see it is

2619
02:06:36,200 --> 02:06:40,120
Speaker 1: an AFC North that is in a state of flux.

2620
02:06:41,840 --> 02:06:45,640
Speaker 1: You know, typically the lead horses there have been Pittsburgh

2621
02:06:45,640 --> 02:06:49,720
Speaker 1: in Baltimore. I think Baltimore. While they feel they have

2622
02:06:49,840 --> 02:06:53,680
Speaker 1: a quarterback answer Lamar Jackson, I think his progress as

2623
02:06:53,680 --> 02:06:56,240
Speaker 1: a quarterback is going to be on a much steeper

2624
02:06:56,560 --> 02:06:59,640
Speaker 1: learning curve than that of Baker Mayfield, who has already

2625
02:06:59,640 --> 02:07:03,800
Speaker 1: shorn shown he can be a productive pro quarterback. Where

2626
02:07:03,800 --> 02:07:05,880
Speaker 1: do you have twenty seven touchdown passes this year? And

2627
02:07:05,880 --> 02:07:08,800
Speaker 1: he didn't even start the first couple of games. More

2628
02:07:08,840 --> 02:07:11,160
Speaker 1: than that, Yeah, first three or four games he didn't start.

2629
02:07:11,400 --> 02:07:15,960
Speaker 1: So you're ahead in my I mean, Baltimore's got an

2630
02:07:15,960 --> 02:07:19,280
Speaker 1: outstanding defense, so get me wrong. But from an offensive perspective,

2631
02:07:19,320 --> 02:07:21,040
Speaker 1: I think you're ahead of the game on the Ravens

2632
02:07:21,760 --> 02:07:23,560
Speaker 1: and you have more talent on the offensive side of

2633
02:07:23,560 --> 02:07:26,760
Speaker 1: the ball than the Ravens. Pittsburgh's still a tough out.

2634
02:07:27,440 --> 02:07:30,560
Speaker 1: But Cincinnati's got a new coaching staff. They say they're

2635
02:07:30,600 --> 02:07:32,560
Speaker 1: going with Andy Dalton, but there's a lot of holes

2636
02:07:32,600 --> 02:07:35,320
Speaker 1: to fill. You wonder if Cincinnati just blows the whole

2637
02:07:35,320 --> 02:07:37,360
Speaker 1: thing up and starts from scratch, with the exception of

2638
02:07:37,360 --> 02:07:40,440
Speaker 1: the quarterback. So I think that's another team there ahead

2639
02:07:40,440 --> 02:07:42,040
Speaker 1: of So I think there are two teams in their

2640
02:07:42,080 --> 02:07:45,040
Speaker 1: division that they can suddenly go toe to toe with.

2641
02:07:46,440 --> 02:07:50,360
Speaker 1: And Pittsburgh is still Pittsburgh unless proven otherwise. So knowing that,

2642
02:07:50,520 --> 02:07:53,960
Speaker 1: and knowing that's four of your sixteen games right there,

2643
02:07:55,800 --> 02:07:57,720
Speaker 1: and you're still and what are they playing a third

2644
02:07:57,720 --> 02:08:02,040
Speaker 1: place schedule based on where they finished in the AFC North?

2645
02:08:04,080 --> 02:08:06,080
Speaker 1: What are we saying ready for a break What do

2646
02:08:06,160 --> 02:08:11,040
Speaker 1: we qualify a breakout a breakout season? To find it

2647
02:08:11,040 --> 02:08:12,920
Speaker 1: any way you want? Go ahead, I mean, they finished

2648
02:08:12,920 --> 02:08:15,400
Speaker 1: what seven eight and one? Is it a breakout season?

2649
02:08:15,440 --> 02:08:18,000
Speaker 1: If they finish around the same place. Probably not, So

2650
02:08:18,040 --> 02:08:20,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna have to say false here. I

2651
02:08:20,200 --> 02:08:22,360
Speaker 1: don't see him as a ten win team yet. I

2652
02:08:22,440 --> 02:08:25,720
Speaker 1: just don't. I'll say false. Okay, I'm gonna say true.

2653
02:08:26,080 --> 02:08:28,040
Speaker 1: I like the way they finished. I think they're more

2654
02:08:28,080 --> 02:08:34,080
Speaker 1: the competitive m I think um, this is um. I

2655
02:08:34,120 --> 02:08:36,120
Speaker 1: think it. They're poised for it. I think they'll get

2656
02:08:36,160 --> 02:08:38,240
Speaker 1: a boost from having Freddy Kitchens come in. I think

2657
02:08:38,280 --> 02:08:40,440
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield is the wild card there. They've got a

2658
02:08:40,480 --> 02:08:43,200
Speaker 1: lot of physical talent. Of course, they've got a lot

2659
02:08:43,200 --> 02:08:45,840
Speaker 1: of physical talent over there. I don't you know, I

2660
02:08:45,880 --> 02:08:47,560
Speaker 1: don't even here that. I don't even know that I

2661
02:08:48,120 --> 02:08:50,320
Speaker 1: I don't even know that. I heard about a defensive

2662
02:08:50,400 --> 02:08:52,440
Speaker 1: higher for them. I like the Browns. I think they're

2663
02:08:52,480 --> 02:08:54,320
Speaker 1: in a good spot. They've got a lot of physical talent,

2664
02:08:54,600 --> 02:08:57,280
Speaker 1: and Baker Mayfield gives them that galvanizing guy that's gonna

2665
02:08:57,280 --> 02:08:59,240
Speaker 1: send them forward. So I like them. I like the

2666
02:08:59,240 --> 02:09:01,200
Speaker 1: way they finished by having two down the stretch. They

2667
02:09:01,280 --> 02:09:03,960
Speaker 1: rallied around Greg Williams. And if they rallied around Greg Williams,

2668
02:09:04,320 --> 02:09:07,320
Speaker 1: you know they can just as easily rally around the

2669
02:09:07,320 --> 02:09:10,640
Speaker 1: next guy that comes in there. So I'm gonna say true.

2670
02:09:10,680 --> 02:09:13,200
Speaker 1: I think they are. So you say false, I say true. Oh,

2671
02:09:13,240 --> 02:09:15,360
Speaker 1: Steve Wilkes, I guess Steve Wills. Oh there you go. Yeah,

2672
02:09:15,360 --> 02:09:18,760
Speaker 1: the guy from Arizona. Yeah, okay, NFL true false. Should

2673
02:09:18,760 --> 02:09:20,200
Speaker 1: we we have time for another one game? All right,

2674
02:09:20,200 --> 02:09:23,839
Speaker 1: we're real quick NFL true false. Number three Jacoby Brissett

2675
02:09:23,840 --> 02:09:27,320
Speaker 1: should be a starter in the NFL, real quick, Brownie. No, yeah,

2676
02:09:27,480 --> 02:09:31,120
Speaker 1: you never be that quick, you know. I mean that's false. Um.

2677
02:09:31,960 --> 02:09:35,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's a really good backup. I

2678
02:09:35,360 --> 02:09:39,000
Speaker 1: think he's got some nice tools. I just see him

2679
02:09:39,040 --> 02:09:41,720
Speaker 1: as one of those career backup guys that you feel,

2680
02:09:41,840 --> 02:09:44,280
Speaker 1: you feel that's the guy that can kind of keep

2681
02:09:44,280 --> 02:09:46,120
Speaker 1: the ship on course if he's got to play three

2682
02:09:46,200 --> 02:09:49,720
Speaker 1: or four games. But he's probably going two and two

2683
02:09:50,200 --> 02:09:51,760
Speaker 1: in those games, if you know what I mean. So

2684
02:09:52,880 --> 02:09:56,080
Speaker 1: I don't think he's starting caliber. I really just I

2685
02:09:56,120 --> 02:09:58,440
Speaker 1: don't see it. There's not enough there. I agree with you,

2686
02:09:58,520 --> 02:10:01,240
Speaker 1: it's false. He's a great dude, Believe me, he's a wonderful,

2687
02:10:01,240 --> 02:10:03,480
Speaker 1: great teammate, great guy to have in the room, But

2688
02:10:03,560 --> 02:10:06,280
Speaker 1: you don't want him starting for you on a regular basis.

2689
02:10:06,840 --> 02:10:09,720
Speaker 1: I just don't think he just doesn't bring enough to

2690
02:10:09,760 --> 02:10:12,360
Speaker 1: the table to do that, all right, That's yeah, that's

2691
02:10:12,520 --> 02:10:15,480
Speaker 1: NFL true false. Brought to you by Yancey's Fancy. You're

2692
02:10:15,520 --> 02:10:18,680
Speaker 1: listening to One Bills Live, presented by Kalida Health from

2693
02:10:18,680 --> 02:10:20,640
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. We'll be back right after the break

2694
02:10:20,680 --> 02:10:23,040
Speaker 1: to finish this up. We're here till three o'clock. Thanks

2695
02:10:23,040 --> 02:10:26,480
Speaker 1: for being with us. We're gonna be here just until

2696
02:10:26,800 --> 02:10:40,240
Speaker 1: we got one more segment, so stick with us. What

2697
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2701
02:10:50,280 --> 02:10:53,680
Speaker 1: Assistant GM of the Buffalo Bills talk to us today

2702
02:10:53,720 --> 02:10:56,360
Speaker 1: about the importance of player meetings at the Super Bowl

2703
02:10:56,360 --> 02:10:58,520
Speaker 1: and what it means to the process. Let's listen in.

2704
02:11:00,440 --> 02:11:02,080
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's a combination of that and how

2705
02:11:02,080 --> 02:11:04,920
Speaker 1: they perform on the practice field and how they compete

2706
02:11:04,920 --> 02:11:07,760
Speaker 1: against their peers. But also, you know, we're fortunate that

2707
02:11:07,800 --> 02:11:09,960
Speaker 1: our our coaches are into the process and they like

2708
02:11:10,040 --> 02:11:12,000
Speaker 1: to come down here and sit in on the interviews

2709
02:11:12,040 --> 02:11:14,000
Speaker 1: with us, so we get an exposure to the player

2710
02:11:14,000 --> 02:11:17,200
Speaker 1: in the meeting rooms, and our coaches also are able

2711
02:11:17,200 --> 02:11:19,280
Speaker 1: to see what the kids can learn football wise, how

2712
02:11:19,280 --> 02:11:21,320
Speaker 1: they are, you know, in terms of personality, so it's

2713
02:11:21,360 --> 02:11:23,160
Speaker 1: not their first exposure to them when we get into

2714
02:11:23,240 --> 02:11:27,200
Speaker 1: draft meetings. Murph also talked to the Director of Player

2715
02:11:27,240 --> 02:11:30,280
Speaker 1: Personnel Dan Morgan, and Morgan talked about the need for

2716
02:11:30,360 --> 02:11:35,000
Speaker 1: former players looking at these young talented college players. Here's

2717
02:11:35,000 --> 02:11:37,120
Speaker 1: what Dan Morgan, director of Player Personnel, had to say

2718
02:11:37,120 --> 02:11:40,400
Speaker 1: about that. Well, you know, I think we did that.

2719
02:11:40,760 --> 02:11:43,320
Speaker 1: We bring a different perspective. You know, We've been out there.

2720
02:11:43,840 --> 02:11:45,680
Speaker 1: You know, we've done it, We've sweat, we know what

2721
02:11:45,720 --> 02:11:49,120
Speaker 1: it feels like out there, you know. So I definitely

2722
02:11:49,200 --> 02:11:50,760
Speaker 1: think there's a place for that, and I can kind

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Speaker 1: of share my experiences, you know, with them and kind

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Speaker 1: of let them know what the players are going through.

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Speaker 1: That is what we learned, presented by Advanced to Laurence

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Speaker 1: from Braddy. We've got one last thing about our Twitter poll,

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Speaker 1: which is what excites you about the offseason? Fifty one

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Speaker 1: percent At the end of it, fifty one percent said

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Speaker 1: free agencies. What excites them most? But forty percent said

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Speaker 1: those ten draft picks. Only nine percent said the trade

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Speaker 1: market possibility. And I'll leave you with this last tweet

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Speaker 1: from the tweet sheet from Bills and Mets fan. I

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Speaker 1: like the known quantity of who's out there on the

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Speaker 1: market to make immediate upgrades. That being said, I think

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Speaker 1: most of our free agent signings won't be the superstars.

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Speaker 1: I don't want splashy names. I just want more talent.

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Speaker 1: I think that's where you want to be, right well,

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Speaker 1: in an ideal world, yes, you do want to be there.

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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised the Twitter pole ended up where it did,

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Speaker 1: although we will be diving into you know, trade versus

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Speaker 1: free agents in terms of upgrading your roster. Tomorrow tomorrow show,

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Speaker 1: we'll be focusing on that to a certain degree, So

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Speaker 1: be sure to come back for that. Magnana. That's right.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be here from twelve to three tomorrow, Chris

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Speaker 1: Brown and I Murph will be on his way back.

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Speaker 1: We won't get too much from down there, but we

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Speaker 1: do have some stuff coming in maybe tomorrow from the

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, some sound checks from back there. Lorenzo, that's right,

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Speaker 1: Lorenzos can help us out, Hey, George, Bloss, Jeff Colton,

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Speaker 1: act Thomas Hollander, Kelly Rude, JJ Rito, Kevin Kargis, James Roebel,

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Speaker 1: and of course producer Jay Harris. Thanks everybody back in

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Speaker 1: the back room. We appreciate it. This has been One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health from One Bill's Dry.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow. Everybody,