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Speaker 1: recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable moments that

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Speaker 1: to do this episode solo. Yes, my loves, we are

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Speaker 1: going to recap Monica, featuring the Real Housewives of Salt

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Speaker 1: Lake City. Bitch. Yes, that to me is going to

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Speaker 1: be the new name of the show. She's Diana Ross,

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Speaker 1: She's Beyonce, She's Michael Jackson, She's Lionel Ritchie, She's glad

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Speaker 1: as Knight. If you know where I'm going with this.

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Speaker 1: You can tell that I am naming members of groups

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Speaker 1: who have a math an amazing solo career. Look, I

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Speaker 1: know Monica's fate on the show is still up for debate,

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Speaker 1: so we will figure out what that means after part

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Speaker 1: three of the reunion, where now I'm part two. But

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Speaker 1: Housewives of Salt Lake City Reunion aired, and again it's

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Speaker 1: the Monica Show. It really is the Monica Show. And

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Speaker 1: She did not make excuses. Now, she may have made

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Speaker 1: jokes aside. You can say what you want about Monica,

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Speaker 1: but to hear the backstory of her childhood and the

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Speaker 1: but feel sorry for her. And I'm not here to

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Speaker 1: And I love Tamar Judge. She brought Tamara. Don't kill me,

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Speaker 1: you talk about women too, Lisa, you said crazier shit

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Speaker 1: See what I'm saying? Guys. Their intention was to we

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Speaker 1: I don't know Whitney like that, so I can't tell

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