WEBVTT - Killing the Hour with Chelsea’s Trainer Ben Bruno

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<v Speaker 1>Hi everybody. While I'm taking the month of September off

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<v Speaker 1>of doing stand up, I return on October one to

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<v Speaker 1>complete my Vaccinated and Horny tour. October, November, and December,

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<v Speaker 1>I have new dates up. I kick it off in Saratoga, California,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm coming to all parts of California, Long Beach,

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<v Speaker 1>Baker's Field. I'm going to Niagara Falls, Tucson, Arizona, Colorado, Minneapolis,

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<v Speaker 1>San Diego, Reading, Pennsylvania, and Baltimore, Maryland, just to name

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<v Speaker 1>a few. There's also some Floridian dates in there, since

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<v Speaker 1>this will be my last year that I'm able to

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<v Speaker 1>go inside the state of Florida. So check out Chelsea

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<v Speaker 1>Handler dot com for more stand up dates for my

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<v Speaker 1>Vaccinated in Horny Tour. These are my last dates. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>hello Catherine, Hi Chelsea. Oh my god, I am fresh

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<v Speaker 1>as a daisy. I'm so glad. I had a big

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<v Speaker 1>photo shoot this weekend and I had to really nail

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<v Speaker 1>it down, which was not hard at all. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed the week of preparation because I had been on

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<v Speaker 1>vacation for base only a month and drinking obviously a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and eating whatever I felt like. Actually, no I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good when I'm my vacation, I don't go off. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to get my act together for this photo

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<v Speaker 1>shoot that will be coming out soon. I won't say

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<v Speaker 1>what it is for yet, but everyone's going to find

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<v Speaker 1>out because it'll probably be a pretty big campaign. But

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<v Speaker 1>I love having to get ready for something because that's

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<v Speaker 1>the only reason I would just get it. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>came home for a week hunkered down. I'm like, on

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<v Speaker 1>my program, no drinking, no bada. I have been smoking pot,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not supposed to be smoking pot at all

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<v Speaker 1>because of my situation with my vocal cords. But I

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<v Speaker 1>decided to give myself a treat and I started a

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<v Speaker 1>new endorsement deal, also a brand partnership deal with a

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<v Speaker 1>company called leisure Town, which is a cannabis drink. So

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<v Speaker 1>you will be getting a full supply of that because

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<v Speaker 1>it has the lowest amount of sugar. It only has

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<v Speaker 1>four grams of sugar. It's calories and they're light, so

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<v Speaker 1>you can get CBD or you can get th HC,

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<v Speaker 1>and the th HC version only has two point five

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<v Speaker 1>milligram of th HC. So yeah, I'm going to bring

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<v Speaker 1>you a kid. I love that. Absolutely, that's so exciting

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<v Speaker 1>to see. I'm somebody who works the deadlines too. Like

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<v Speaker 1>if I have something that I know is coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>like I can get it done, I can make it happen.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I need that sort of motivation that impetus

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<v Speaker 1>to like here's what I'm aiming for. Yeah, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely I need a deadline as well. If they left

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<v Speaker 1>to my own devices, I mean I would just basically

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<v Speaker 1>sit on my ass and it smoked pot with Bert

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<v Speaker 1>and just stare at him until the taco arrived. I

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<v Speaker 1>love it. He likes Spot a little bit more than Bernice. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like a pothead, you know. That explains his laziness.

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<v Speaker 1>They're so sweet though, since I haven't been there, they

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<v Speaker 1>love me now and they come in my room at

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<v Speaker 1>night and they're both on the floor and then Bert

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<v Speaker 1>looks at me in the morning like when are you

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<v Speaker 1>going to feed me? And I'm like, oh, honey, I

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<v Speaker 1>am going to feed you. Actually, because when I'm home now,

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<v Speaker 1>I take their feeding more seriously because I'm wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>know that I too love them. I'm just not that

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<v Speaker 1>interested in sticking around their way, right, and like the

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<v Speaker 1>food comes from you when you're home, not my bell

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah. Well, we have a quick follow up from

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<v Speaker 1>one of our callers. This is from Quinn, who called

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<v Speaker 1>in on our episode with Ashley Graham a few weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 1>She had sort of wanted to know if she should

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<v Speaker 1>lose weight before getting into the dating scene. And she says, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>Chelsea and Catherine. I know it's only been a short

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<v Speaker 1>time since we last spoke, but I wanted to give

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<v Speaker 1>a progress update. I just recently started a new job

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<v Speaker 1>as a campaign manager for my boss's state Assembly reelection campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't worry, He's a Democrat and damn good one at that.

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<v Speaker 1>At first, I was really nervous about taking this job,

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<v Speaker 1>as I would be in a new city where I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't know anyone. However, per your advice, I've begun journaling

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<v Speaker 1>most nights and have become more conscious of how I've

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<v Speaker 1>been treating myself, both physically and mentally. All of this

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<v Speaker 1>has helped me find new avenues of confidence, like being

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<v Speaker 1>a motherfucking campaign manager. This new confidence has helped me

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<v Speaker 1>get on the dating apps again in this new city

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<v Speaker 1>and begin swiping away. I haven't had a date yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm definitely talking to multiple people right now, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's always fun. I know I will definitely have to

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<v Speaker 1>keep building my confidence and my healthy living journey is

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<v Speaker 1>far from over, but I am proud of the progress

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<v Speaker 1>I've made so far. Thanks for your help. Quinn. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>great job, Quinn, wait to fucking get after it. Good job.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that, I know. And it's like when you

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<v Speaker 1>start doing other things, you realize, like man, confidence can

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<v Speaker 1>come from all these different places, like it just doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to come from like one avenue in your life. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>confidence can come from your friendships, from your family, from

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<v Speaker 1>your job, from you know, your relationship with yourself, from

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<v Speaker 1>your animals. You're just making contributions. It builds, instills confidence

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<v Speaker 1>and builds it absolutely well. It's actually a fitting follow

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<v Speaker 1>up for our guest today. He is going to join

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<v Speaker 1>us here in st Okay. Guys, you're in for a

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<v Speaker 1>real special treat. Okay. I have Ben Bruno, my trainer,

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<v Speaker 1>is our guest today and I have spent every morning

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<v Speaker 1>at eight o'clock with him for the last week. So

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<v Speaker 1>the last thing I want to do is spend an

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<v Speaker 1>hour with him on this podcast. But guess what he's

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<v Speaker 1>coming right in Yo yo yo, Ben, you put on headphones.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Ben Bruno's here today everyone. He's my personal

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<v Speaker 1>trainer and Catherine, have you ever met Ben before? And

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<v Speaker 1>not in person, just see him on your Instagram. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well this must be a thrill for you. Ben. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you first of all for bringing me coffee. That was

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<v Speaker 1>really nice. I brought her coffee. I just go. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he brought Katherine and me coffee. If it was for you,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have brought it. Well, you were texting me,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's pretty weird that you don't know that that

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<v Speaker 1>was for me. But furthermore, why did you call me

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<v Speaker 1>when I put my order in for the coffee? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Because the order I didn't know what it was. It

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<v Speaker 1>was called the Starbucks Refresher, which I didn't know what

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<v Speaker 1>that meant. And then when I ordered it no lemonade.

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<v Speaker 1>I was faced with the choice of mango, strawberry or pineapple.

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<v Speaker 1>So I called and nobody picked up. So I just

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<v Speaker 1>went with mango. So whoever that is, you're getting mango,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really pleased. I've never tried the mango one before,

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<v Speaker 1>So here we are. We just picked what I would want.

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<v Speaker 1>If you didn't like it, I was like, then I

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<v Speaker 1>would go with Mango. Thank you, Ben, strong decision making. So, Catherine,

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<v Speaker 1>Ben has been my trainer for how many years been?

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<v Speaker 1>What's our too long? Probably seven years, seven or eight years,

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<v Speaker 1>A long time, A long time. I would say it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably common law at this point. Hey annoyed me, extremely

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<v Speaker 1>annoyed me from the very outset of our relationships, and

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<v Speaker 1>I also annoy him a great deal. But we've managed

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<v Speaker 1>to remain in a trainer relationship for a very long time,

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<v Speaker 1>my longest trainer relationship, that's for sure. And so he's

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<v Speaker 1>trained a lot of my friends and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>my family members, and no one who's really as enthusiastic

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<v Speaker 1>as I am about working out. I wouldn't I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>call it enthusiastic. No, you're not enthusiastic at all. But well,

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<v Speaker 1>what it's my motivation? Then I will say, you always

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<v Speaker 1>do show up, but you never seem to like it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know what kind of excitement you

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<v Speaker 1>want to happen during a workout where you come out

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<v Speaker 1>of a set and you're like, fuck, that was killed.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I get it's just working out, But I

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<v Speaker 1>also think I've never actually met trying to think that

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<v Speaker 1>this is true. But I don't think I've met anyone

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<v Speaker 1>that complains more than you do. I don't. That's such bullshit.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a total bullshit. No, it's not about working out.

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<v Speaker 1>I complain about or put me on a polygraph. I'm serious. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have a polygraph, Ben, because that's from the

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling the truth. No, they still use polygraph not

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<v Speaker 1>admissible in court though. Anyway, Ben, are you what people

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<v Speaker 1>would consider a bro? In some ways? I'm a bro?

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<v Speaker 1>I yeah, I don't like to admit it. But when

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<v Speaker 1>I think of my interests and what I do for

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<v Speaker 1>fun and things, for better or worse, I'm just like

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<v Speaker 1>a typical dude. Right, Okay, so you what does that

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<v Speaker 1>mean to you? What are your interests? You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>like working out, I like watching football. I love golf.

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<v Speaker 1>I love watching golf. All my golf friends understand that

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else thinks that's the dumbest thing ever. I like

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<v Speaker 1>dude stuff. I like, uh, you know, my go to

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<v Speaker 1>order is a burger and fries. Yeah, I would say

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty average. I actually googled average height for a

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<v Speaker 1>dude because I have a lot of friends that play basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>and so when I'm around them. I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just three ft tall, and I'm right on average. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>five nine and three quarters and the average according to

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<v Speaker 1>Google is five nine and like point six. And then

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<v Speaker 1>my shoe size is a nine and a half, which

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<v Speaker 1>is average for a guy. So in just about every way,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm average. Well that's good for you to know. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad that there's scientific data behind that to back up

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<v Speaker 1>that argument, because yes, nine three quarters, So stop that

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<v Speaker 1>that's ridiculous. Well, no one is saying three quarters. I listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I will round up. I'm gonna say five ten. Say

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<v Speaker 1>that that's better than saying five nine and three quarters.

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<v Speaker 1>Why why do you say five ten minus one quarter?

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<v Speaker 1>See just so the listeners. No, this is the type

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<v Speaker 1>of ship that I deal with every single workout. Chelsea

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<v Speaker 1>comes in every day. I'm gonna I'm gonna give the listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>This is actually therapy for me. I'm gonna give the

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<v Speaker 1>listeners like taste into what I deal with on a

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<v Speaker 1>daily basis. She comes in, I say, Hi, how are

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<v Speaker 1>you feeling? Because that's actually very important because I'm a trainer.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to know how your body is feeling. Then

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<v Speaker 1>I say how you doing, which to me means like

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<v Speaker 1>you're like mental state, what's been going on? Whatever? Also,

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<v Speaker 1>to backtrack, I see Chelsea every fucking day, So a

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<v Speaker 1>big part of it is just trying to kill the hour.

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<v Speaker 1>I need talking points. Yeah, well that's what you do

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<v Speaker 1>need because the questions you ask are repetitive. When I say,

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<v Speaker 1>how is your body feeling? Then how you're doing? She goes,

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<v Speaker 1>you just ask me that, You just ask me because

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<v Speaker 1>you do. You have different things, but you repeat yourself

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. You go, you go like this, hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>let me talk now, you say, he goes, I come in,

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, Hey, how you doing good? How you doing? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Time the third No, well, then come up with some

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<v Speaker 1>new material. There's not new material nothing. You can't just

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<v Speaker 1>keep asking the same question and hoping for a different answer.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't make any accumulate talking points if I do

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<v Speaker 1>something on the weekend. But otherwise my day's my life's

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<v Speaker 1>ground Hug day. I trained people, and then I eat

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<v Speaker 1>dinner and I watch a little TV, go to bed

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<v Speaker 1>call today, so there's not much for us to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about from Monday to Tuesday to Wednesday. Also, her life

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<v Speaker 1>is ground Hug day, so she don't have shipped to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about either, So I'm just grasping at straws. And

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<v Speaker 1>then everything I do say she tells me is a

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<v Speaker 1>dumb question. And then also just so that people know

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<v Speaker 1>as a trainer, I I actually I find this funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I take pride in being pretty creative. I'll to my

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<v Speaker 1>own horn. I I got named the most innovative trainer

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<v Speaker 1>by Men's Health. Meanwhile, every single day two years, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm still it is what it is. Meanwhile, in

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<v Speaker 1>my field, I'm considered innovative every day that since I've

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<v Speaker 1>trained Chelsea, which I don't know how many days that is,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's way too many. She goes Google new Ship.

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<v Speaker 1>We did this one before, as if like that's what

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<v Speaker 1>training is. You were just pretty much otate twenty exercises

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<v Speaker 1>till one of us gets sick of the other person

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<v Speaker 1>and moves on. But every day it's like Google new ship,

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<v Speaker 1>Google new ship. And then any time I show something different,

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, this is way dumber than the original one.

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<v Speaker 1>This is like dumb. So that is what I go

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<v Speaker 1>through people, and you love it. You love it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad it seems like you're getting stuff off your chest.

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<v Speaker 1>So Katherine Ben is a very straight bro. How I

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<v Speaker 1>would classify him in my group of people that I know,

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<v Speaker 1>and he goes to therapy. He has a therapist that

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<v Speaker 1>he's been seeing for a few years now, right, six

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<v Speaker 1>or seven? Oh yeah, six or seven years. And let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about I would like to hear about your therapy

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<v Speaker 1>experience as a male, as a bro, because a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of men can't go to therapy and they don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to even talk about what's really happening because they're scared

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<v Speaker 1>and they don't think it's a necessary So what's been

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<v Speaker 1>your experience? Well, I'll tell you how it started. I

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<v Speaker 1>tried therapy at two different points in my life before

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<v Speaker 1>this little six month run. Once six year ru six

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<v Speaker 1>year run. Sorry. Once when I was ten years old,

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<v Speaker 1>I got put in therapy, but I don't think it

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<v Speaker 1>was therapy. I think it was um, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>all the differences, but this guy was a psychiatrist. To

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<v Speaker 1>backtrack real quick, my my dad passed away when I

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<v Speaker 1>was nine, and that's obviously there's a lot of ship

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<v Speaker 1>that comes with that. So my mom put me in

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<v Speaker 1>therapy with the guy that my dad had actually seen,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was definitely different than the therapy, I do now,

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<v Speaker 1>because that was like I would say to him that

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<v Speaker 1>that was a failed attempt. I guess because he would

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<v Speaker 1>say he was a medicine guy, and I think maybe

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<v Speaker 1>some people benefit from medicine, but I think sometimes feelings

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<v Speaker 1>of depression and stuff can be situational. Sometimes it's probably chemical,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's situational. And I just remember at ten, the

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<v Speaker 1>guy would say to me, how do you feel about

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<v Speaker 1>your dad dying? And I'd say, I'm sad, and I'm like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>who wouldn't be sid And then I went again when

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<v Speaker 1>I was probably nineteen or twenty. At another low point

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<v Speaker 1>in my life. I had a back surgery when I

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<v Speaker 1>was nineteen in college, and the surgery did nerve damage

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<v Speaker 1>in my right leg, and in hindsight, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>great thing for me because it got me into physical

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<v Speaker 1>fitness and now I'm a trainer because of it. But

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<v Speaker 1>at the time it was a real low point because

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<v Speaker 1>I had always been very physically active and into sports.

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<v Speaker 1>And after the surgery, I lost about forty pounds and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I was this big to begin with, so I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even have that to lose. I was super skinny

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<v Speaker 1>week and just really depressed because my right leg like

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<v Speaker 1>basically shut down. I couldn't drive or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I was super depressed and tried therapy again,

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<v Speaker 1>but I wasn't really open to it at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Long story short, Now this is my third foray into it,

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<v Speaker 1>and this time started about six years ago. I woke

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<v Speaker 1>up one day and thought I just drank too much

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<v Speaker 1>coffee on an empty stomach and just felt wired and

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<v Speaker 1>just got something to eat, kind of went about my day.

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<v Speaker 1>Second day this happened, I felt this crazy fast heartbeat

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of Los Angeles, which is hot, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was freezing cold and felt like I couldn't take in air.

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<v Speaker 1>It was this really weird feeling. I couldn't breathe. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was training a guy I still trained him now,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was like, dude, you gotta go to the doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went to the doctor. They did this whole

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<v Speaker 1>work up on me E k G. The treadmill test,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the guy told me I had a panic attack,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, what the fuck. I think most

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<v Speaker 1>of my friends people in my life would describe me

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<v Speaker 1>as pretty chill. This is like, right now, this is

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<v Speaker 1>as animated as I ever get. I'm a pretty even

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<v Speaker 1>keel person, and so the panic attack thing felt weird

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<v Speaker 1>to me because I usually felt like I was never

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<v Speaker 1>two up or down, and that really threw me for

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<v Speaker 1>a loop because I was like, wait, am I like

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<v Speaker 1>cra easy? Like what is this thing? The panic attack

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<v Speaker 1>was made worse by all those feelings that I think

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<v Speaker 1>people dudes might have when they think of, like I've

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<v Speaker 1>had a panic attack, because it seems weird. And I

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<v Speaker 1>took myself down this whole rabbit hole over that. This

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<v Speaker 1>is over the course of three or four days, where

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I can't believe I had a panic attack,

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<v Speaker 1>Like am I like this anxiety kind of person? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>I just felt very weird about it, and so someone

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<v Speaker 1>suggested therapy, and then the first person that was recommended

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<v Speaker 1>to me. Her advice was to carry around a brown

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<v Speaker 1>paper bag in case you get anxiety and then you

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<v Speaker 1>can breathe into it. And I'm like, yeah, no, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not doing that. So then I was talking to one

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<v Speaker 1>of my family friends from home because I had remembered

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<v Speaker 1>his son got anxiety, and to be truthful, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even really know what anxiety was prior to that, and

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<v Speaker 1>he told me that there's this woman in l A

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<v Speaker 1>that it was a great therapist, and I looked her

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<v Speaker 1>up and she happened to be very close to my house.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've seen her ever since that panic attack, And

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<v Speaker 1>originally my first appointment was just to figure out why

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<v Speaker 1>I had a panic attack, and then I've just been

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<v Speaker 1>going ever since. In some ways, I think of it

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<v Speaker 1>like a paid friend, but a friend that just gives

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<v Speaker 1>like way better advice than my real friends. Because the

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<v Speaker 1>thing about dudes, dudes don't want to go to therapy,

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<v Speaker 1>But I bet guys we probably need it more than

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<v Speaker 1>women because guys just in general give shitty advice. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you ever talk to your friends about your problems,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not getting good advice. They're probably gonna direct you

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that will like lead to more problems.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it's good to just have a professional opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>And then also too, I do spend a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>time as a trainer. I take on a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>other people's problems over the course of the day. They

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<v Speaker 1>tell me all their stuff, but I don't really get

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<v Speaker 1>too into my stuff. And I realized that it's just

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<v Speaker 1>good for me to have you have this outlet to

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<v Speaker 1>get everything off your Yeah, I haven't spoken in like

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<v Speaker 1>eight minutes, so I mean, let it rap. I'm just talking. Honestly.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to deal with Chelsea for an hour already today,

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<v Speaker 1>so I can't hear her talk anymore. I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>keep talking. But I think for me, it's just I

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<v Speaker 1>go once a week or once every other week, and

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<v Speaker 1>I get a good sounding board, and I think sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>even if there's actually a lot of times I will

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<v Speaker 1>say I've told her straight up that I'm not really

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<v Speaker 1>good at the therapy process. Sometimes she'll ask me. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be telling her something and she'll ask me, like, how

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<v Speaker 1>does that make you feel? And I'm like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm still trying to figure out my emotions. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think talking through things sometimes I solve my own problems.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's also just good to have someone to talk to.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's made me probably better than maybe it has.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Your body is pretty good. At least

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<v Speaker 1>I've yet to google any exercises for her personality. We're

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<v Speaker 1>working on that, but I do think it helps me.

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed. I think it's helped me a lot in

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<v Speaker 1>now I have a living girlfriend. It's helped me with

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<v Speaker 1>that type of stuff and she likes it. I go

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<v Speaker 1>to therapy, so do dude should go? Just it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>a better way to get girls too. I think girls

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<v Speaker 1>actually now it's like now it's cool. Now it's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>So the other part to this is I remember when

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<v Speaker 1>I first went to therapy. There was like sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a shame when I had the panic attack where I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like I was copying to guilt to a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of my buddies and across the board all my guy friends.

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<v Speaker 1>But one was like, oh, yeah, dude, I go to

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, what the funk? I've known you

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<v Speaker 1>forever and I don't even know this. Guys just don't

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<v Speaker 1>really talk about it. But I think it's more common

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<v Speaker 1>than they think. Do Have you had a panic attack

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<v Speaker 1>since you went to therapy? You know? I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>to that level, but yes I have. But it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually way better now knowing what it is, because I've

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<v Speaker 1>had times stress, you know, and who I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>the continuum of panic attack for stress first whatever, but

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<v Speaker 1>I've definitely had times where I'll be feeling nervous about

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<v Speaker 1>something or uncomfortable or just unhappy, and then my heart

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<v Speaker 1>rate just gets jacked. It's like I can feel it

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<v Speaker 1>throughout my whole body, or I'll just start sweating or

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<v Speaker 1>things like that. And so I've learned now it's less

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<v Speaker 1>of a panic attack, because i think part of the

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<v Speaker 1>panic part comes, at least for me, from not knowing

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<v Speaker 1>what it was. But when you know what it is,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've learned breathing techniques and I've learned how powerful

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<v Speaker 1>breath can be to back that stuff down. The breathing

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<v Speaker 1>thing is crazy in the sense that I can go

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<v Speaker 1>from feeling jacked up to like a zen like stoned,

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<v Speaker 1>in like a minute, just through breath. What breathing exercises

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<v Speaker 1>do you do? Uh? Well, they're all cousins of each other.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've learned different ones, but one is called

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a breathing ladder that I learned, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is essentially the exhales twice as long as the inhale.

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<v Speaker 1>So you breathe in for one second, out for two,

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<v Speaker 1>in for two out for four, three, six, four, eight,

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<v Speaker 1>five ten, then you do five ten twice and then

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<v Speaker 1>go back down four eight, three, six, etcetera. And by

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<v Speaker 1>the end, etcetera. And then by the end you know

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<v Speaker 1>you you either are cool, or you do it once through.

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<v Speaker 1>Another thing that I just learned actually from therapy is

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<v Speaker 1>called square breathing, and I believe in and it started

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<v Speaker 1>with the Navy seals. I could be wrong about that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think that's what she said, and that's essentially

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<v Speaker 1>think of a square. So the you inhale for four,

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<v Speaker 1>then hold it for four seconds, exhale for four, hold

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<v Speaker 1>it for four seconds, and you repeat that. Another thing

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<v Speaker 1>is called five seven eight. You'll see they're all related,

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<v Speaker 1>but five five seven eight is breathe in for five,

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<v Speaker 1>hold it for seven, exhale for eight. That that I

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<v Speaker 1>learned from my training mentor, Mike Boyle, and that takes

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<v Speaker 1>it's a twenty second breath and you go through three times.

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<v Speaker 1>He actually told it to me in the sense of

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<v Speaker 1>he's a he's a napper and can basically put himself

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep in the afternoon doing that, which is pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I can't remember the fourth one, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>all in a similar type of thing. And I actually

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<v Speaker 1>remember that time you taught me the meditation where we

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<v Speaker 1>did the guided meditation in my front yard and then

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<v Speaker 1>I just passed out. I don't know if you even

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<v Speaker 1>remember that you had a guided meditation. I didn't teach

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<v Speaker 1>you anything. It was a guided meditation that we listened to. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you taught me. I never tried it before, But to

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<v Speaker 1>people listening, I thought meditation. I'm not even fucking talking,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't think you can tell me to shout

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<v Speaker 1>up at this point, buddy, Well, I think, uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>meditation was a thing that Chelsea turned me onto that

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<v Speaker 1>felt too woo woo for me. I Um, I have

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<v Speaker 1>a real tricky time, like I hate like yoga class,

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<v Speaker 1>I like stretching, but anything that feels to woo woo,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I thought the meditation was. But Chelsea's actually

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<v Speaker 1>taken me through two guided meditations and I fell asleep

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<v Speaker 1>both times. And I'm not a napper, So that that

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<v Speaker 1>shows to me that, uh, it's probably something worth exploring. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean when you're focusing on your breath, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some people say that meditation is really just focusing on

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<v Speaker 1>yourself and focusing on your breath. So in a way,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're doing your own form of meditation where you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing this box breathing or these you know, these other

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<v Speaker 1>types of breathing techniques. The breathing stuff actually works better

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<v Speaker 1>for me than just trying to meditate, because it could

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<v Speaker 1>just be me, but I doubt it. It's really hard

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<v Speaker 1>to just be told clear your mind for ten or

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<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes, because all I do is just think about

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<v Speaker 1>all the ship that's been bothering me. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>the breathing stuff is good for me in the sense

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't go blank minded. I'm counting the whole time,

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<v Speaker 1>so my mind can't wander. Yeah, it gives you something

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<v Speaker 1>to focus on. Yeah, I bet you. With all your

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<v Speaker 1>breathing though, now you would be able to meditate more

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<v Speaker 1>easily because the meditation is just focusing on your breathing,

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<v Speaker 1>because it is a meditative thing anyway. So are you

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<v Speaker 1>ready to give some advice to callers? People call in

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<v Speaker 1>ask for real life advice, and then we have to

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<v Speaker 1>give them good advice. This feels like the blind leading

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<v Speaker 1>the blind. Well, we're gonna take a quick break and

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<v Speaker 1>we will be right back to answer some questions and

0:23:09.400 --> 0:23:12.760
<v Speaker 1>we're back fantastic. Well, you know what, We're gonna do

0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:16.040
<v Speaker 1>things a little bit differently today because this is training

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<v Speaker 1>focused and health focused. We've got a lot of sort

0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:21.760
<v Speaker 1>of like quick little bite questions. So are you going

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to answer a questions to sent way

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<v Speaker 1>or are you going to ramble on and on and

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<v Speaker 1>on on? All right, let's hear the questions. We have

0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:30.720
<v Speaker 1>something to ramble on a little bit later. We have

0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:33.000
<v Speaker 1>some really good callers calling in, but we'll just start

0:23:33.000 --> 0:23:38.760
<v Speaker 1>with some little quickies. So our first question is resistance

0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:42.520
<v Speaker 1>training using one's own body for weight training a k A.

0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:46.199
<v Speaker 1>Plank pull ups, push ups, etcetera. Just as efficient and

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<v Speaker 1>beneficial as lifting weights. Joe. Joe, Yes to a point.

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<v Speaker 1>I think in the beginning it's great, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>as you acclimate to your own body weight, it's really

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<v Speaker 1>good to add a little bit more resistance. And we

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<v Speaker 1>we follow a tendant in training. It's called progressive overload,

0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:05.200
<v Speaker 1>basically meaning like you want to gradually make things harder.

0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:08.000
<v Speaker 1>So unless you just kept adding body weight, which I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think many people want to do, you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>run out of ways to progressively overload. Got it? I agree?

0:24:16.400 --> 0:24:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Chelsea concurs. Hi, Chelsea and Ben. My name is Abby.

0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:22.680
<v Speaker 1>I followed that on Instagram, and I'm curious if he's

0:24:22.720 --> 0:24:26.440
<v Speaker 1>still single. I wanted some he's got to live in girlfriend?

0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:31.359
<v Speaker 1>That was quick? Sorry, Abby, I wanted some advice on

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<v Speaker 1>how to get motivated for the gym. I used to

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<v Speaker 1>go every day in between shifts at work. I now

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<v Speaker 1>find myself struggling for motivation to go even once a week. Chelsea,

0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:43.280
<v Speaker 1>You're in insane shape, so maybe you could chime in

0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:46.159
<v Speaker 1>on this too. PS. I'm twenties six years old, Abbey

0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:48.400
<v Speaker 1>bed Why don't you take the lead on this one.

0:24:48.440 --> 0:24:50.199
<v Speaker 1>I don't know the question in that it sounds like

0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:52.960
<v Speaker 1>she was just explaining her situation. Yeah, I think the

0:24:53.040 --> 0:24:56.000
<v Speaker 1>question is how to get motivated for the gym. To me,

0:24:56.400 --> 0:24:58.439
<v Speaker 1>something that is interesting to note is that like she

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<v Speaker 1>was maybe doing like a shift at are going to

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<v Speaker 1>the gym and then doing another shift at work, which

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:06.840
<v Speaker 1>like you can do when you're like but she may

0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:10.160
<v Speaker 1>have just been sort of overworking herself in general. Yeah,

0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:12.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I feel like that my motivation is looking good,

0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:16.680
<v Speaker 1>so I just feel more like mentally normal and clearheaded

0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:19.080
<v Speaker 1>when I am feeling good and looking good, and I

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<v Speaker 1>like to be strong. I was on vacation for two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks recently, and I didn't work out for two weeks,

0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:24.680
<v Speaker 1>and that was probably the first time in like two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks I've never worked out first time in two weeks,

0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:28.879
<v Speaker 1>the first time that I didn't work out for the

0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:31.440
<v Speaker 1>duration of two weeks, you know, like I'll always work

0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:35.240
<v Speaker 1>out so and shut the funk up, just trying to

0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:37.399
<v Speaker 1>help the people that made no and I didn't like

0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:40.399
<v Speaker 1>it because my ass melted. And then I got back

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:42.520
<v Speaker 1>and I worked out for like a week. I did

0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:44.600
<v Speaker 1>pilates for a week. But like, as soon as you

0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:46.960
<v Speaker 1>start working out and seeing the results, I think that's

0:25:47.000 --> 0:25:48.919
<v Speaker 1>really it. Once you start to see the results, it

0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:52.600
<v Speaker 1>becomes kind of addicting. I will say, personally, I'm not

0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:54.800
<v Speaker 1>the type of trainer that just lives to work out.

0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:58.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm not somebody that works out every day. I usually

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:01.520
<v Speaker 1>strength train three days a week, and then on other

0:26:01.640 --> 0:26:03.880
<v Speaker 1>days I try. I try to be active every day,

0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:05.920
<v Speaker 1>but I get sick of my own workouts. I've I've

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<v Speaker 1>been I've been training people for fifteen years, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of you know, I spend my whole day

0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:14.479
<v Speaker 1>in the gym. So what I do when I'm not

0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:17.600
<v Speaker 1>feeling motivated, because I definitely have weeks where I won't

0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 1>do the weights, is I just make appointments with friends

0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:24.119
<v Speaker 1>to hold myself accountable. You know, a lot of a

0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:26.679
<v Speaker 1>lot of my clients probably a big part of it.

0:26:26.680 --> 0:26:30.000
<v Speaker 1>It's just built in accountability. But if you don't have

0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:34.000
<v Speaker 1>a trainer, you can create that same accountability by just

0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:36.399
<v Speaker 1>making appointments with friends. There's a lot of times that

0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I'll make an appointment on a Monday with my buddies

0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:42.760
<v Speaker 1>for Tuesday, and I think to myself as they're driving over, man,

0:26:42.800 --> 0:26:45.720
<v Speaker 1>if they if they cancel, like I'm skipping. So it's

0:26:45.760 --> 0:26:47.479
<v Speaker 1>like it's a really good way I think for me

0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:51.679
<v Speaker 1>to to stick to it. That's great. Next question, My

0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:55.399
<v Speaker 1>question for Bruno is why don't you like burpes? I

0:26:55.440 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 1>hate them. To Wendy Man, I don't even know why

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:01.640
<v Speaker 1>this is controversial. When I say I don't like burpies,

0:27:01.760 --> 0:27:05.639
<v Speaker 1>all these like really jacked CrossFit guys get mad at me.

0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:07.280
<v Speaker 1>But I'm not talking about for them. They can do

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<v Speaker 1>whatever they want, but a lot of just normal people

0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:13.720
<v Speaker 1>that don't live to work out think that that's the

0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:16.640
<v Speaker 1>way that they're gonna lose weight. But burpies are actually

0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 1>I call them advanced exercise masquerading as a beginner exercise.

0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:23.800
<v Speaker 1>It's actually pretty hard to do correctly and requires a

0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:26.719
<v Speaker 1>lot of mobility. So if you just passed a normal

0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:29.560
<v Speaker 1>workout class. I would call myself captain obvious if you

0:27:29.600 --> 0:27:33.880
<v Speaker 1>went past a normal class. Almost everyone's that does burpies

0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:35.760
<v Speaker 1>sucks at them like jack. Guys are the ones that

0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:37.720
<v Speaker 1>fight me on it, but they don't even do them.

0:27:37.760 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 1>It's always like beginners, and it requires a lot of

0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 1>mobility and a lot of people hurt their back, risks, knees,

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:51.200
<v Speaker 1>etcetera doing that, etcetera. Uh, and could easily just get

0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:54.639
<v Speaker 1>their heart rate up through safer means. Yeah, it seems

0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 1>like something that is very easy to do with poor form,

0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:01.359
<v Speaker 1>which can lead to getting hurt. So I just a

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:03.800
<v Speaker 1>simple way. I just say break it down into its

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:06.720
<v Speaker 1>two constituent parts and do push ups and squads separate

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:08.879
<v Speaker 1>but don't combine. I was had a trainer. I think

0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:11.480
<v Speaker 1>this was I used Chloe Kardashians trainer for a short

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 1>period of time, probably before I met you, Ben, and

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I remember in the middle I remember, I remember we

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:22.400
<v Speaker 1>broke up a couple of times. No, we didn't, we didn't. Anyway,

0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 1>I think he made me do a burbie. If I'm

0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:27.679
<v Speaker 1>thinking correctly about what burpies are, which is when you

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:29.880
<v Speaker 1>run up and down the floor right like jump off

0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 1>like do like a belly flop. Yeah, And I as

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:34.480
<v Speaker 1>soon as I saw that, I was like, I can't

0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 1>do that. Not because I don't think the burpies work,

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:38.840
<v Speaker 1>It's just because they're too hard. It's too annoying to

0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:44.640
<v Speaker 1>jump up and down like that. I'm not into jumping period. Well,

0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:48.400
<v Speaker 1>our next question is make sure we asked Ben some

0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:51.560
<v Speaker 1>real life questions to not just fitness. We shouldn't let

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 1>him get off easy today. Okay, Well we'll have a

0:28:54.880 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 1>couple more quickies and then we'll get to some serious stuff. Okay, great,

0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm like twelve. I always laugh when I hear quickie.

0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh God, that's what I'm dealing with everybody like a

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:06.960
<v Speaker 1>fucking eighth grader. Well, that fits right in with our

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:10.480
<v Speaker 1>next question, because our next question is I always have

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 1>pain in my hips when I have sex and missionary position.

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm in the gym four times a week, and I

0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 1>have done a lot of hip mobility work on my

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 1>hip flexers, but it hasn't fixed the problem. Any suggestions

0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:25.480
<v Speaker 1>on specific exercises or stretches I could try. I like

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 1>it from behind, so it's not the end of the world.

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:31.080
<v Speaker 1>But variation is the spice of Life. Thanks Jess. That's

0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:33.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you covered that, Jess, because Ben was going

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:35.600
<v Speaker 1>to say, take it from behind. That's exactly what you

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 1>were going to say. I was thinking it, I wasn't

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:41.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna say it. I would say, First off, I'm curious,

0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 1>like what exactly she means when she says missionary, because

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how your hips could hurt, just like

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:48.960
<v Speaker 1>lying flat. But I think if if her legs are up,

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:52.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, around whatever, I would say that she probably

0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 1>could be doing some Yeah. I mean, now, sorry, I'm

0:29:56.680 --> 0:30:00.120
<v Speaker 1>just visualizing your legs and then your hips are in. Off,

0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 1>you don't just lie there like a stick figure. Some do.

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 1>But there's you know, there's some there's some clarifications I need.

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 1>But in general, I would tell her to do the

0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 1>pigeon stretch. That would be a good one. And yeah,

0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:18.800
<v Speaker 1>and then if she wants to google or YouTube or

0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:22.719
<v Speaker 1>whatever Stationary spider Man's that's a really good bang for

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 1>your book, Mobility Drill. I don't hate that joke. I

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:31.080
<v Speaker 1>don't hate that my best I can't even say anything

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:35.080
<v Speaker 1>right now, Chelsea. We have a quick call from a

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:41.360
<v Speaker 1>friend of yours. Rosanna is calling perfect. She had a

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 1>question for you, says My question for Ben would be

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:50.400
<v Speaker 1>how to make my calves smaller? They are enormous. Thanks Rosanna,

0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 1>that is a really tricky one. She already asked me,

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:57.040
<v Speaker 1>and I gave her what my feedback, which was, well,

0:30:57.080 --> 0:30:59.720
<v Speaker 1>I'll wait for your feedback. Oh my god, look who

0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 1>it is is, Hi Hi. Oh my god, what a valiant.

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 1>I love it. I'm in my pink palace. Rosanna is

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 1>one of my friends who I just went to Vancouver

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Island with. I told them earlier about falling asleep, or

0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:19.920
<v Speaker 1>maybe it was in another episode about falling asleep at

0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:22.600
<v Speaker 1>three in the afternoon and then waking up at three am. Rosanna.

0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:25.080
<v Speaker 1>We had a great time. Chuck spent a lot of

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:29.520
<v Speaker 1>the week sleeping and we watched Your Sleep. I brought

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 1>her what she needed in between getting drunk in the

0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 1>hotel bar. It was a good week. Yeah, we didn't

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:37.080
<v Speaker 1>make it very far, but Rosanna made various reservations all

0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:40.560
<v Speaker 1>throughout town every night, like six or seven different places

0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 1>for lunch and dinner, and then we would just cancel

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:46.200
<v Speaker 1>all of them and activities too. We also canceled a

0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 1>lot of activities, but we didn't need him Okay, so

0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:54.840
<v Speaker 1>this is Ben Bruno, this is my trend, or you're

0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 1>finally needed Rosanna tell him about your situation. I have

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:02.720
<v Speaker 1>a situation. I have the opposite situation that most people have.

0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't need to build up my calves. I need

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:10.560
<v Speaker 1>to reduce my calves. Their massive. They are not calves,

0:32:10.920 --> 0:32:15.000
<v Speaker 1>They're full grown cows. So I just would like to

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:17.120
<v Speaker 1>be able to fit into boots. You really are you

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 1>also recently lost weight? Right? How much weight have you lost?

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm not really quite sure, but I've definitely I've definitely

0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:27.640
<v Speaker 1>lost them weight, and I've been heavier, I've been smaller,

0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 1>but no matter what, my calves are still so muscular.

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:36.160
<v Speaker 1>My legs in general are muscular, but my calves especially,

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Chelsea can tell you. We were in Victoria's.

0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:42.240
<v Speaker 1>She was like, damn girl, those are sound cats. So

0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if there's something I can do to

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:46.760
<v Speaker 1>lean them out. Wait, let me ask him one question.

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:49.240
<v Speaker 1>Did you notice that they reduced in size when you

0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 1>lost weight a little bit? Yeah, for sure, that's really

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:56.880
<v Speaker 1>the best thing you can do. Unfortunately, for both people

0:32:56.920 --> 0:32:59.560
<v Speaker 1>that have small calves and big calves, calves are just

0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:02.880
<v Speaker 1>some people have big calves genetically, some have teeny ones

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 1>and more so than almost any other muscle. It's hard

0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 1>to change that. But I would say losing weight all

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 1>over will definitely help you lose girth in your calves,

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 1>but also doing things like calphrases to get them to

0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:20.640
<v Speaker 1>shrink won't have that effect. So I would say, like,

0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:24.120
<v Speaker 1>don't do anything other than you know, maybe lose weight,

0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:26.880
<v Speaker 1>and also just know that it's one of those grass

0:33:26.960 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 1>is Greener things. You probably think. It's way more negative

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 1>than most people. I get far more questions about how

0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 1>to grow calves and like, like me, for example, I

0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 1>have teeny calves, to the point that if I ever

0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:44.080
<v Speaker 1>share a video of myself doing pull ups on YouTube,

0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:46.600
<v Speaker 1>the trolls tell me I'm cheating because my calves are

0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:48.560
<v Speaker 1>so small that I have nothing to pull up. So

0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:53.920
<v Speaker 1>just no rosetta there is. Yeah, it's just I bet

0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:57.880
<v Speaker 1>I bet people just yeah right, Well, she used the

0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:00.520
<v Speaker 1>calves the cows. That's cheesy Jim humor too, so we're

0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 1>even up. No calves the cows is the title of

0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:07.760
<v Speaker 1>every like cheesy internet calf article like how to turn

0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:13.120
<v Speaker 1>your calvestack cows. So but yeah, I would say, first off,

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:15.319
<v Speaker 1>congrats on losing the weight, But I would say as

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:18.280
<v Speaker 1>you do that more in your body acclimates and stuff,

0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:21.400
<v Speaker 1>they'll probably come down a little bit. Okay, So I

0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:23.960
<v Speaker 1>mean I take classes and stuff, and sometimes when they'll

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:27.239
<v Speaker 1>do the calfhrases and calf exercise, just set that one

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:31.600
<v Speaker 1>out and do the yoga shivasana and just lay there

0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:34.960
<v Speaker 1>while they do the cal phrases. What about Pilate's like, well,

0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:39.279
<v Speaker 1>that helped lengthen them out. No. So, actually that's a

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 1>tricky one for me to broach because a lot of

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 1>women that do pilates tell me that they want to

0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:48.800
<v Speaker 1>get long and lean. It's actually impossible. Your muscles insertion

0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:51.080
<v Speaker 1>points are set so you actually can't lengthen a muscle.

0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:53.680
<v Speaker 1>When when when women say that, I just kind of

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:55.800
<v Speaker 1>nod because I know what they mean. But that's actually

0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:58.319
<v Speaker 1>not happening. You can't lengthen a muscle. It's it is

0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 1>what it is, your anatomy. But I think you can

0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:04.120
<v Speaker 1>tone the muscle and stuff like that. But I think

0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:07.759
<v Speaker 1>a lot of what you're talking about will is just

0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:11.120
<v Speaker 1>more about like weight loss and fat loss. Got it.

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 1>But I do think pilates does help you be more

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:18.200
<v Speaker 1>conscientious of your posture and your alignment. So just by

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:20.399
<v Speaker 1>nature of doing it, you stand up a little bit

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:22.400
<v Speaker 1>taller and your posture is a little bit better, and

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:25.920
<v Speaker 1>that always makes everything also look better. Yeah, I actually

0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:27.600
<v Speaker 1>love pilates. I didn't mean that to say I don't

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 1>like pilates. I love it. I do it myself sometimes.

0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:32.839
<v Speaker 1>But I think that it's a misnomer to say that

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 1>you're lengthening things. But I do think that you're there's

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:40.919
<v Speaker 1>a ton of benefits to it. Okay, so my calves

0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:45.880
<v Speaker 1>are what they are, more or less unfortunately. Okay, I

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:53.120
<v Speaker 1>want you to take that into the weekend, Rosanna, exactly energy.

0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 1>You can take that big calf energy into the weekend.

0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:59.040
<v Speaker 1>It was very nice meeting, like it's your last. It

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 1>was nice to meet you too. Thanks for calling Rosanna

0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:09.520
<v Speaker 1>your problem. I'll talk to you later. Chuck, that was funny.

0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:13.399
<v Speaker 1>She's cute. They all call me Chuck. I love that.

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:18.560
<v Speaker 1>It's very I don't know, actually just a mystery. While

0:36:18.840 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 1>this is a very interesting gym and relationship related question,

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:26.360
<v Speaker 1>it's a little long. I cut it down to about

0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:29.320
<v Speaker 1>a third of its original linkage. She's a writer by trade,

0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:33.480
<v Speaker 1>but just be prepared Dear Chelsea. I'm a twenty six

0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:36.000
<v Speaker 1>year old grad student in a relationship with my partner,

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:39.280
<v Speaker 1>we'll call him Dan, who's thirty one. We've been together

0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:41.440
<v Speaker 1>for five years now, and it's been the most stable

0:36:41.480 --> 0:36:44.600
<v Speaker 1>and loving relationship I've ever had. I've always been very

0:36:44.600 --> 0:36:47.480
<v Speaker 1>skeptical of marriage, but in this relationship, I'm open to

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 1>the idea, and we've been recently talking about getting engaged.

0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:54.759
<v Speaker 1>Then something happened that has me questioning everything. Within the

0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 1>last few months, Dan has started a fitness journey cringe.

0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:00.719
<v Speaker 1>I also hate that Word has been going to the

0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:04.440
<v Speaker 1>gym with a personal trainer. It's all he talks about anymore,

0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:07.400
<v Speaker 1>and I've often found him standing in the mirror flexing

0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 1>his arm muggles, which kind of makes me want to hurl.

0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:13.799
<v Speaker 1>But I know he has had some insecurities about his

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:15.920
<v Speaker 1>appearance in the past, and I'm proud of him and

0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:18.120
<v Speaker 1>the work he's been doing to feel good about himself

0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 1>and his body. When he started getting very into his

0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:25.279
<v Speaker 1>gym life, I noticed that our intimacy was decreasing. There

0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:28.120
<v Speaker 1>was an obvious shift. When I would bring it up,

0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 1>he'd brush it off, saying he was tired and deny

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 1>my advances. One night, when I was met with this response,

0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:36.400
<v Speaker 1>I had had enough. When I asked him what was

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:39.279
<v Speaker 1>going on, he paused, said he didn't want to hurt me,

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 1>and eventually told me, you've gained a lot of weight

0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:44.440
<v Speaker 1>in the last six months, and it's made me less interested.

0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I guess I was crushed. I'm a healthy weight and

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:50.080
<v Speaker 1>I love my body. I work out five days a

0:37:50.080 --> 0:37:52.840
<v Speaker 1>week at home, walk often, and eat well. I know

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I've gained a little weight, and I just accepted it

0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:57.279
<v Speaker 1>as part of becoming an adult. I'm aware that I

0:37:57.320 --> 0:37:59.759
<v Speaker 1>won't be the scrawny, hundred and ten pound girl he

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 1>five years ago, forever just a sex. By the way,

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 1>if this person is distancing himself from me due to

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:07.920
<v Speaker 1>a few pounds of weight gain, are the foundations of

0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:11.160
<v Speaker 1>our relationships strong enough to handle the really hard things together.

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:13.799
<v Speaker 1>I can't get the comment out of my head. I

0:38:13.840 --> 0:38:15.839
<v Speaker 1>went to stay with friends, and when I returned home,

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 1>my boyfriend apologized endlessly. However, it all just feels like

0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 1>damage control. I fell in love with him because he

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 1>was a kind, thoughtful, smart and loving intellectual book nerd.

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:29.120
<v Speaker 1>Now he's starting to feel like a conceited Jim rat.

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:31.719
<v Speaker 1>Should I try to work through this incident or hit

0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:34.400
<v Speaker 1>the road. My love for him is not based on appearance,

0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:37.040
<v Speaker 1>but this comment is making me question if he can

0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:42.520
<v Speaker 1>love me the same way. Amy, Hi, Amy, Hi, how

0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:46.560
<v Speaker 1>are you? Hi? Ben Bruno is our guest today. Hi,

0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:50.280
<v Speaker 1>nice to meet you. That must have been an unpleasant

0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:54.719
<v Speaker 1>conversation to have. It was, it was. It shocked me

0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:58.399
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, but yeah, I decided to come back

0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:02.640
<v Speaker 1>home and work it out. But not much has really changed,

0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:05.560
<v Speaker 1>especially on his part. Still kind of obsessive with the

0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:08.640
<v Speaker 1>working out, a lot of damage control, like saying, you know,

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:11.200
<v Speaker 1>I didn't mean what I said this and that, and

0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:13.440
<v Speaker 1>it's like, okay, then why did you say it? And

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:16.200
<v Speaker 1>it's just been really confusing. Did you leave for a

0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:20.880
<v Speaker 1>period of time? I did, Yeah, about a week, just

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:24.000
<v Speaker 1>to like get my mind off of things and hang

0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:27.399
<v Speaker 1>out with some friends. But yeah, it's just been it's

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:29.680
<v Speaker 1>been hard to wout my head around. Yeah, that's a

0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:32.759
<v Speaker 1>pretty dicky thing for him to have said to you.

0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:36.719
<v Speaker 1>And also like the whole obsessive working out, Like you

0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:39.920
<v Speaker 1>could forgive that, but those two things together now you're

0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:43.680
<v Speaker 1>piling on unattractive qualities. It's not a left field too.

0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:47.400
<v Speaker 1>This is not like him. So within like the past

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:52.000
<v Speaker 1>two months, this obsession has started and has changed the

0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 1>way like he treats me and how he feels about

0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:56.680
<v Speaker 1>himself as well. You know, we were at the beach

0:39:56.719 --> 0:40:00.680
<v Speaker 1>the other weekend and I saw these growy guys that

0:40:00.760 --> 0:40:04.120
<v Speaker 1>were like very muscular playing a game or whatever, and

0:40:04.160 --> 0:40:06.200
<v Speaker 1>he looked over at them and looked out at himself,

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:09.279
<v Speaker 1>not really good about himself. So I'm trying to decide, like,

0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:12.359
<v Speaker 1>are you saying these comments because you don't feel good

0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:15.160
<v Speaker 1>about yourself? Or is this I don't know, it's it's

0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:17.719
<v Speaker 1>just been so confusing. Yeah, I mean I think it's

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:20.799
<v Speaker 1>worth a longer conversation about it, where you sit down

0:40:20.840 --> 0:40:22.520
<v Speaker 1>and be like, listen, this is like a big red

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:25.000
<v Speaker 1>flag to me, like, not only are you behaving in

0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:27.759
<v Speaker 1>a way that seems obsessive, now you're attacking me. These

0:40:27.800 --> 0:40:30.520
<v Speaker 1>are not qualities. I'm looking for to have a larger

0:40:30.560 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 1>conversation about that and what that sets up for any

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:37.719
<v Speaker 1>future together. Right, you should call him out. What do

0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:42.400
<v Speaker 1>you think, ben Well? Has he gone from non worker

0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:45.279
<v Speaker 1>outer to like a full Jim Douche, like a full

0:40:45.360 --> 0:40:47.880
<v Speaker 1>transformation kind of thing. Yeah, it's kind of been like

0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:49.719
<v Speaker 1>I work out and stuff, but it's not all I

0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:53.120
<v Speaker 1>talked about, Like it's just like a part of your routine,

0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:57.880
<v Speaker 1>like being healthy, a part of your regime. Yes, regime, Yeah,

0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:00.680
<v Speaker 1>the full on gym culture. Does he do like the

0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:04.840
<v Speaker 1>weird eating habits and like this ship like that too?

0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Not really. Definitely has cut down on alcohol, which that's fine,

0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:11.319
<v Speaker 1>and definitely from working out at home to going to

0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:14.719
<v Speaker 1>a gym where he has like a personal trainer and

0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:16.600
<v Speaker 1>things like that. And maybe he's like looking at other

0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:19.319
<v Speaker 1>people's bodies that are super jocked. I don't know. I'm

0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:21.640
<v Speaker 1>just trying to figure out when this is coming from.

0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:24.160
<v Speaker 1>But it could be just like the new environment of

0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:28.399
<v Speaker 1>where he's working out. I don't know. Well, I think

0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:30.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of workout dudes. It's hard for me to

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:32.840
<v Speaker 1>say without knowing him, but a lot of workout dudes

0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:36.560
<v Speaker 1>have this. They call it body dysmorphia. But I think

0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:38.560
<v Speaker 1>about themselves, and then I think they put that on

0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:42.160
<v Speaker 1>to other people too. So I'll have trainer friends that

0:41:42.200 --> 0:41:46.759
<v Speaker 1>are big dudes, you know. As reference, I'm five nine,

0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:50.600
<v Speaker 1>about a hundred seventy pounds to some people, I'm big

0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 1>to some people, I'm small, But there's a lot of

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:56.719
<v Speaker 1>trainer dudes that are huge by all standards, and they

0:41:56.760 --> 0:42:00.680
<v Speaker 1>talk about how they're insecure because they lose eyes and stuff,

0:42:00.719 --> 0:42:01.959
<v Speaker 1>and I look at them, like, what are you talking

0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:04.640
<v Speaker 1>about you? And then I think they also put I

0:42:04.719 --> 0:42:06.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know what the word would be, but they have

0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:10.640
<v Speaker 1>unrealistic expectations of what other people look like and things

0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:14.400
<v Speaker 1>like that. But I think if he's going like full Jim,

0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:16.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't want to say douche, but douche,

0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:19.919
<v Speaker 1>then I think he could be in that mindset where

0:42:19.960 --> 0:42:24.640
<v Speaker 1>And I think also a lot of dudes get a

0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:27.680
<v Speaker 1>superiority when they lift, you know. I remember when I

0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:31.040
<v Speaker 1>moved to l A and started training actors, a lot

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:34.120
<v Speaker 1>of my Jim Rat friends would ask me what some

0:42:34.200 --> 0:42:37.280
<v Speaker 1>of these famous guys like benched and squat and stuff,

0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:39.919
<v Speaker 1>and when I would tell them the number, they would

0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:42.440
<v Speaker 1>be like pussy, like they were better than them. And

0:42:42.480 --> 0:42:46.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, this dude has you beat in every facet

0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:48.520
<v Speaker 1>of life, and you're acting like you're better than him.

0:42:48.560 --> 0:42:51.360
<v Speaker 1>But Jim, people are really like that sometimes, and I

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:53.560
<v Speaker 1>think that a lot of guys when they lift, get

0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:57.040
<v Speaker 1>an arrogance about that. But as it relates to you.

0:42:57.200 --> 0:42:59.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It's hard for me to say, but

0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:01.840
<v Speaker 1>I think it's like super shitty that he's putting you

0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:08.000
<v Speaker 1>in that spot. And I also wonder if he's expecting

0:43:08.040 --> 0:43:11.160
<v Speaker 1>you to do all that weird stuff too, which would

0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:13.640
<v Speaker 1>be dumb. I don't think you should. That's pressure should

0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:16.760
<v Speaker 1>be placed on you. I will say again, I'm a trainer.

0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:19.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm not somebody. I have very few trainer friends because

0:43:19.440 --> 0:43:21.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm not somebody that likes to work out every day.

0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:23.880
<v Speaker 1>If I have a buddy that tells me that, you know,

0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:27.520
<v Speaker 1>he does like chest on Monday back on Wednesday, I'm like, Okay,

0:43:27.520 --> 0:43:29.799
<v Speaker 1>we're probably never gonna be friends that type of thing.

0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:32.799
<v Speaker 1>But I think it's very healthy to work out in moderation.

0:43:32.880 --> 0:43:34.920
<v Speaker 1>But I think when you take it too far, it

0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:37.640
<v Speaker 1>can be unhealthy for your body and your mindset. You

0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:40.359
<v Speaker 1>definitely have to talk to him. And you said he's

0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:42.720
<v Speaker 1>like flexing in the mirror. This might be like addition

0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:47.799
<v Speaker 1>by subtraction. If it doesn't end up working out, that's tricky. Great, Yeah,

0:43:47.920 --> 0:43:51.000
<v Speaker 1>it feels like this may be an opportunity to encourage

0:43:51.080 --> 0:43:54.040
<v Speaker 1>him to get into therapy. This doesn't even feel like

0:43:54.040 --> 0:43:56.600
<v Speaker 1>a couple of therapy situation, but like he needs to

0:43:56.680 --> 0:44:00.319
<v Speaker 1>examine why he is turning this self hate rid of

0:44:00.320 --> 0:44:03.680
<v Speaker 1>his own body and his own fat or whatever on you.

0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:06.080
<v Speaker 1>So this might be a time to encourage him to

0:44:06.080 --> 0:44:08.359
<v Speaker 1>be like why don't why don't you explore that with

0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:12.600
<v Speaker 1>somebody and what's coming up for you with that? M Yeah,

0:44:12.640 --> 0:44:15.759
<v Speaker 1>So he started going to therapy and then we did

0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:20.120
<v Speaker 1>have a longer conversation about this whole topic, and he

0:44:20.200 --> 0:44:24.000
<v Speaker 1>like blamed it on seeing unrealistic body expectations, like both

0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:26.600
<v Speaker 1>in the gym and on social media. And for me,

0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:29.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, as a female, like that should I deal

0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:33.279
<v Speaker 1>with every day? Like we all, so you'll put it

0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 1>on me, like, this isn't my problem, you know, it's

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:38.960
<v Speaker 1>his ship. I think that's a really really good point.

0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:41.800
<v Speaker 1>And first of all, even if you have gained a

0:44:41.840 --> 0:44:44.720
<v Speaker 1>little bit of weight, like you're still a very slender person,

0:44:44.760 --> 0:44:47.480
<v Speaker 1>and even if you weren't, it wouldn't matter. It shouldn't

0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:50.239
<v Speaker 1>matter to him what you weigh. He's having some sort

0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:54.640
<v Speaker 1>of a physical mental reaction to whatever he's going through,

0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:57.560
<v Speaker 1>and that's that's something he's got to kind of unpack

0:44:57.640 --> 0:45:00.799
<v Speaker 1>on his own. Yeah, I guess My question knows do

0:45:00.840 --> 0:45:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I stick around for that and how do I move

0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:07.480
<v Speaker 1>forward with trust? I don't really trust you now, Like

0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't really feel like I even know you anymore,

0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:13.319
<v Speaker 1>Like you've changed in two months, like drastically, and not

0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:16.560
<v Speaker 1>even his body, just like his perginality and what he's

0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:19.680
<v Speaker 1>doing his actions. So yeah, I mean, if there's an

0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:22.319
<v Speaker 1>opportunity for you to go to therapy with him and

0:45:22.360 --> 0:45:24.919
<v Speaker 1>talk to his therapist with him, I would take that

0:45:25.000 --> 0:45:28.960
<v Speaker 1>opportunity really yeah, and just say like, this is what

0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:31.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing. This is a different person than I, and

0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:35.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm concerned, Like it's a little bit fanatical, and it's

0:45:35.120 --> 0:45:38.640
<v Speaker 1>also having a negative impact on me. It's hard for

0:45:38.800 --> 0:45:40.719
<v Speaker 1>something to be happy for somebody to encourage them when

0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:43.239
<v Speaker 1>it's coming right back at you. He should be happy

0:45:43.280 --> 0:45:46.200
<v Speaker 1>about his body. What's he focused on you for. I

0:45:46.239 --> 0:45:48.640
<v Speaker 1>definitely think you have to press him a little more

0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:50.680
<v Speaker 1>on what he meant by what he said and things,

0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:53.239
<v Speaker 1>because I think it sounds like he backtracked. And I

0:45:53.320 --> 0:45:57.240
<v Speaker 1>just know as a dude, sometimes if I say something

0:45:58.000 --> 0:46:00.759
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't get a good reaction, I just retreat and

0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:02.520
<v Speaker 1>then just go like, hey, I don't mean that, Like

0:46:02.560 --> 0:46:05.160
<v Speaker 1>all good. But whether there's smoke, there's fire. So I

0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:08.239
<v Speaker 1>think you have to really understand where he's coming from

0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:10.440
<v Speaker 1>and then you can evaluate if it's something you can

0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:13.480
<v Speaker 1>get past or not. But I think the retreat thing

0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:16.960
<v Speaker 1>would probably be because he saw that he piste you

0:46:17.000 --> 0:46:19.120
<v Speaker 1>off and hurt your feelings and doesn't want to keep

0:46:19.160 --> 0:46:21.959
<v Speaker 1>that going. But the feelings are still there, so even

0:46:22.000 --> 0:46:24.920
<v Speaker 1>if you just sweep it under the rug, that's it's

0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:28.239
<v Speaker 1>going to come back if you don't really talk about

0:46:28.280 --> 0:46:31.400
<v Speaker 1>that a little bit more. Yeah, that's kind of like

0:46:31.840 --> 0:46:34.040
<v Speaker 1>where I met as how to move forward with us

0:46:34.400 --> 0:46:37.719
<v Speaker 1>and whether it's worth it or not. Um, how long

0:46:37.760 --> 0:46:42.359
<v Speaker 1>have you guys been together? Five years? So it's kind

0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:44.040
<v Speaker 1>of gone to the point where like things are getting

0:46:44.160 --> 0:46:47.280
<v Speaker 1>very serious and I've never been like a marriage person

0:46:47.400 --> 0:46:49.520
<v Speaker 1>or kids person, and like we've talked about these things,

0:46:49.560 --> 0:46:52.520
<v Speaker 1>but I've been more open about them. And then this

0:46:52.600 --> 0:46:56.520
<v Speaker 1>comment came up and it like really was triggering for me,

0:46:57.120 --> 0:47:00.759
<v Speaker 1>just like my past and everything. And so it's just, yeah,

0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:04.160
<v Speaker 1>trying to trying to figure out what to do next.

0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:08.000
<v Speaker 1>But I would agree that a deeper conversation and possibly

0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:10.480
<v Speaker 1>therapy together would be guid Yeah, you should give it.

0:47:10.680 --> 0:47:12.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's five years is a long time to

0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:14.040
<v Speaker 1>be with somebody, So give it the amount of attention

0:47:14.040 --> 0:47:16.879
<v Speaker 1>it deserves and the respect it requires. And if there's

0:47:16.880 --> 0:47:18.800
<v Speaker 1>not a change, then you know you have your answer

0:47:18.960 --> 0:47:22.319
<v Speaker 1>and you're going to move on right right, Okay, well,

0:47:22.320 --> 0:47:25.560
<v Speaker 1>thank you, all right? Well keep us supposed to a me. Okay, Well,

0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:30.759
<v Speaker 1>I will thank you so much. Ye see this is

0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:40.040
<v Speaker 1>serious ship ben yeh. Well, our next color is Alicia.

0:47:40.960 --> 0:47:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Alicia says, I'm fifty three and I'm in perimenopause. I've

0:47:45.719 --> 0:47:48.359
<v Speaker 1>begun reading some things about how women my age should

0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:51.720
<v Speaker 1>focus on strength training and do less high intensity interval

0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:55.120
<v Speaker 1>training or high impact cardio. When we talked on the phone,

0:47:55.200 --> 0:47:57.200
<v Speaker 1>she said, just kind of always been a cardio person.

0:47:57.520 --> 0:47:59.200
<v Speaker 1>If I can work out four days a week, what

0:47:59.200 --> 0:48:02.000
<v Speaker 1>would you suggest as a training schedule, he asked. My

0:48:02.080 --> 0:48:05.640
<v Speaker 1>current back to school routine is Monday, I do cardio strength,

0:48:06.280 --> 0:48:10.439
<v Speaker 1>Wednesday triple met con all cardio but at different levels.

0:48:10.440 --> 0:48:14.399
<v Speaker 1>Saturday cardio strength where I'm mix in some weights. Sunday

0:48:14.440 --> 0:48:23.600
<v Speaker 1>strength all weights. Alicia. Hello, oh shitsky doodle, Hi Alicia, Hi, Alicia, Hi,

0:48:23.800 --> 0:48:25.839
<v Speaker 1>I have been Bruno my trainer here a perfect time

0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:28.960
<v Speaker 1>for your question. Yes, I was excited to see that

0:48:29.000 --> 0:48:31.839
<v Speaker 1>you're looking for questions. I'm at the age where I'm

0:48:31.840 --> 0:48:35.240
<v Speaker 1>starting to read and learn about menopause, and I really

0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:37.840
<v Speaker 1>like to work out, and I've been reading and hearing

0:48:37.880 --> 0:48:40.680
<v Speaker 1>about that women my age should be focusing more on

0:48:40.760 --> 0:48:43.680
<v Speaker 1>strength training. And I grew up doing so much cardio

0:48:43.719 --> 0:48:45.520
<v Speaker 1>all the time. So what do I need to be

0:48:45.560 --> 0:48:50.600
<v Speaker 1>doing well? Question? You said that, but then when Catherine

0:48:50.640 --> 0:48:54.439
<v Speaker 1>was reading your schedule, it sounded like you did three

0:48:54.520 --> 0:48:58.160
<v Speaker 1>days of strength training in one day at cardio. Monday's

0:48:58.239 --> 0:49:03.280
<v Speaker 1>and Saturday's are a mix of cardio and strength. Classify

0:49:03.400 --> 0:49:07.080
<v Speaker 1>that as a whole strength class. Well, what I'll say

0:49:07.200 --> 0:49:10.800
<v Speaker 1>I always recommend I tell women to think of strength

0:49:10.800 --> 0:49:13.360
<v Speaker 1>training as the entree and cardio is the side dish,

0:49:13.480 --> 0:49:19.600
<v Speaker 1>so they're both important. But if we had to allocate percentages,

0:49:19.760 --> 0:49:23.560
<v Speaker 1>I would probably say two thirds to three quarters strength training,

0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:28.000
<v Speaker 1>one third to one quarter cardio. But I don't think

0:49:28.040 --> 0:49:30.520
<v Speaker 1>that you have to have a strength day only cardio

0:49:30.640 --> 0:49:34.279
<v Speaker 1>day only. What will typically do is just incorporate a

0:49:34.320 --> 0:49:37.319
<v Speaker 1>little bit of cardio at the end of the strength workouts. Um,

0:49:37.320 --> 0:49:40.239
<v Speaker 1>it's just you know, some intervals and stuff. But I

0:49:40.280 --> 0:49:44.080
<v Speaker 1>would say for you, three full body strength workouts a

0:49:44.080 --> 0:49:46.799
<v Speaker 1>week is great, and then if you enjoy cardio on

0:49:46.880 --> 0:49:50.040
<v Speaker 1>top of that, do it. And also I do agree,

0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:53.480
<v Speaker 1>sounds like you answered your own question in the question,

0:49:53.560 --> 0:49:56.719
<v Speaker 1>but you were talking about trying to not do as

0:49:56.800 --> 0:50:00.640
<v Speaker 1>much high impact cardio. I do think that first off,

0:50:00.640 --> 0:50:04.360
<v Speaker 1>strength training, if you do full body strength training is cardio.

0:50:04.560 --> 0:50:07.359
<v Speaker 1>People that do body parts splits, not so much if

0:50:07.360 --> 0:50:09.960
<v Speaker 1>you do like a chest day or whatever. But if

0:50:09.960 --> 0:50:13.640
<v Speaker 1>you're pairing upper body and lower body exercises, you're gonna

0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:16.160
<v Speaker 1>get a cardio effect from that too. But I think

0:50:16.200 --> 0:50:20.040
<v Speaker 1>it's great to supplement the full body strength work with

0:50:20.440 --> 0:50:24.440
<v Speaker 1>some low impact interval training. And then also it's just

0:50:24.560 --> 0:50:27.920
<v Speaker 1>some low intensity training like going for a walk or

0:50:27.960 --> 0:50:30.319
<v Speaker 1>a hike or things like that. But I think that's

0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:35.320
<v Speaker 1>like a good long term strategy. And then also incorporating

0:50:36.000 --> 0:50:39.600
<v Speaker 1>mobility work in there too. Yes, that's that's built into

0:50:39.640 --> 0:50:42.919
<v Speaker 1>a couple of the classes my training. The best part

0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:45.280
<v Speaker 1>of this whole COVID thing is I found this trainer.

0:50:46.520 --> 0:50:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Sounds like a good trainer. Yeah, so it sounds like

0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:51.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of on the right road. Need to make

0:50:51.719 --> 0:50:53.880
<v Speaker 1>sure I get the strength in on on the weekend

0:50:53.960 --> 0:50:55.919
<v Speaker 1>because she does that on the days I go to work,

0:50:55.960 --> 0:50:59.439
<v Speaker 1>So all right, I will keep at that. Cool. Yeah,

0:50:59.520 --> 0:51:03.560
<v Speaker 1>don't over you the cardio. Yeah, it's hard though, I know,

0:51:03.719 --> 0:51:05.439
<v Speaker 1>I know it feels like it's good, but it's better

0:51:05.440 --> 0:51:09.480
<v Speaker 1>to strength train. Yes, yeah, okay, okay. It's been so

0:51:09.560 --> 0:51:11.600
<v Speaker 1>fun to talk with you. Thank you so much for

0:51:11.640 --> 0:51:15.760
<v Speaker 1>taking my question. Thank you, nice to meet you. Bye bye.

0:51:16.520 --> 0:51:22.640
<v Speaker 1>All right, well, our next question comes from Kim. Kim

0:51:22.880 --> 0:51:28.120
<v Speaker 1>is forty nine. Dear Chelsea, I'm really struggling with my fitness.

0:51:28.440 --> 0:51:30.919
<v Speaker 1>I started putting on tons of weight about ten years ago.

0:51:32.520 --> 0:51:35.160
<v Speaker 1>After a round of Whole thirty, I knew something was wrong,

0:51:35.440 --> 0:51:38.839
<v Speaker 1>and after several doctors, I was diagnosed with celias and

0:51:38.960 --> 0:51:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Hashimoto's thyroiditis. I went gluten free, obviously, and soy free,

0:51:44.160 --> 0:51:47.279
<v Speaker 1>another allergy I discovered and started to feel so much better.

0:51:47.800 --> 0:51:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Work relocated me to Florida. I'm a private teacher slash

0:51:51.200 --> 0:51:53.839
<v Speaker 1>family assistant, and it was great for the health part

0:51:53.920 --> 0:51:56.480
<v Speaker 1>because I would just ride my cruiser bike around the

0:51:56.520 --> 0:51:59.400
<v Speaker 1>horse farms for ten to twenty miles a day, taking

0:51:59.480 --> 0:52:01.960
<v Speaker 1>in the canal els in the sunsets. The weight seemed

0:52:02.040 --> 0:52:04.160
<v Speaker 1>to fall off. I move a lot with this job,

0:52:04.560 --> 0:52:07.080
<v Speaker 1>and my location and level of activity during work and

0:52:07.200 --> 0:52:10.719
<v Speaker 1>time spent outside seems to vary, as has my weight.

0:52:11.360 --> 0:52:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Now that you have my back story, I'd like to

0:52:13.120 --> 0:52:15.920
<v Speaker 1>ask for your help in mindset. I've always been one

0:52:16.000 --> 0:52:18.239
<v Speaker 1>to just do fun activities my whole life and not

0:52:18.360 --> 0:52:21.160
<v Speaker 1>think of it as exercise. I just recently signed up

0:52:21.200 --> 0:52:24.000
<v Speaker 1>for an adult tap class here in my current location,

0:52:24.440 --> 0:52:27.319
<v Speaker 1>and I hiked at my last location. I'd love if

0:52:27.360 --> 0:52:30.160
<v Speaker 1>you had tips to help me develop a traditional workout mindset,

0:52:30.360 --> 0:52:36.040
<v Speaker 1>whether at home or going to the gym. Kim, oh, hey, Kim, Hi, Hi,

0:52:37.680 --> 0:52:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm well, how are you good? Thank you. Ben Bruno's

0:52:40.360 --> 0:52:44.120
<v Speaker 1>our guest today, so it's perfect timing for your question. Yes,

0:52:44.440 --> 0:52:48.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. He's our in studio health expert today. So

0:52:48.480 --> 0:52:51.440
<v Speaker 1>is your question more related to the fitness side or

0:52:51.520 --> 0:52:57.160
<v Speaker 1>the diet side. Well, I have the diet side pretty

0:52:57.200 --> 0:53:00.080
<v Speaker 1>well nailed. I know how I have to eat to

0:53:00.160 --> 0:53:03.400
<v Speaker 1>feel good, and that's you know what I do. But

0:53:03.520 --> 0:53:06.360
<v Speaker 1>I just have a hard time getting in the mindset

0:53:06.400 --> 0:53:10.040
<v Speaker 1>of like going to the gym and doing typical workouts.

0:53:10.840 --> 0:53:14.040
<v Speaker 1>I like to be active. I ride my bike, I hike.

0:53:14.200 --> 0:53:17.280
<v Speaker 1>I just started TAP lessons. I know, if I'm moving

0:53:17.640 --> 0:53:20.440
<v Speaker 1>with my I have hashes and ciliac. So if I

0:53:20.560 --> 0:53:23.120
<v Speaker 1>move like three or four hours a day, I'm great.

0:53:24.000 --> 0:53:26.120
<v Speaker 1>But sometimes it's really hard, and I just feel like

0:53:26.920 --> 0:53:31.960
<v Speaker 1>I need to somehow incorporate going to a gym and

0:53:32.080 --> 0:53:35.560
<v Speaker 1>not looking at it as a torture chamber. Can you

0:53:35.640 --> 0:53:37.360
<v Speaker 1>do it with a friend? Will that help you? To

0:53:37.520 --> 0:53:39.520
<v Speaker 1>enlist a friend that you like. Go to a class

0:53:39.560 --> 0:53:41.640
<v Speaker 1>two days a week, if it's a bar method or

0:53:41.800 --> 0:53:45.000
<v Speaker 1>soul cycle anything. I mean, I guess I have a few.

0:53:45.280 --> 0:53:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I just relocated to Nashville, so I know a couple

0:53:47.680 --> 0:53:50.120
<v Speaker 1>of people. Well that's a good way to make friends,

0:53:50.160 --> 0:53:53.640
<v Speaker 1>probably to actually yeah, so, and I've already become friendly

0:53:53.680 --> 0:53:56.200
<v Speaker 1>with people in my TAP class, so you know, hopefully

0:53:56.239 --> 0:53:58.839
<v Speaker 1>that'll progress. I have a partner who loves to bike ride.

0:53:58.920 --> 0:54:01.880
<v Speaker 1>He does that schimish emmy. Writing not my thing, but

0:54:02.120 --> 0:54:03.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, we do write a lot, so I'm lucky

0:54:03.920 --> 0:54:06.320
<v Speaker 1>to do that. But I just don't know why I

0:54:06.400 --> 0:54:09.120
<v Speaker 1>have such a It's like I have a wedge to

0:54:09.239 --> 0:54:12.759
<v Speaker 1>prevent me from going to the gym. You just have

0:54:12.880 --> 0:54:15.120
<v Speaker 1>to find some classes that you like in that are

0:54:15.160 --> 0:54:16.960
<v Speaker 1>in the gym. You know what I mean, and just

0:54:17.040 --> 0:54:19.640
<v Speaker 1>sign up for like two a week and commit to that.

0:54:19.880 --> 0:54:22.360
<v Speaker 1>That's a great way to aid work out and make friends.

0:54:22.840 --> 0:54:24.800
<v Speaker 1>And they could be strength training classes, you know what

0:54:24.880 --> 0:54:26.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean. So you know you're going and you're not

0:54:26.600 --> 0:54:30.040
<v Speaker 1>responsible for your own regiment. It's being provided for you,

0:54:30.320 --> 0:54:33.239
<v Speaker 1>right m h. I sort of feel Kim, like you

0:54:33.320 --> 0:54:35.719
<v Speaker 1>have the best of both worlds, you know. I think

0:54:35.760 --> 0:54:37.640
<v Speaker 1>that's what everybody wants to get to, is like just

0:54:37.760 --> 0:54:41.880
<v Speaker 1>doing something fun and it's exercise. By the way, It's

0:54:41.920 --> 0:54:43.560
<v Speaker 1>like that old saying, find a job you love and

0:54:43.600 --> 0:54:45.000
<v Speaker 1>you'll never work a day in your life. But I

0:54:45.040 --> 0:54:47.160
<v Speaker 1>feel like the same applies here, you'll never work out

0:54:47.239 --> 0:54:49.040
<v Speaker 1>a day in your life. Like I feel like you

0:54:49.120 --> 0:54:52.160
<v Speaker 1>got it great, Like Chelsea said, joining a couple of

0:54:52.200 --> 0:54:54.839
<v Speaker 1>extra classes. Maybe that's a strength training class or something

0:54:54.920 --> 0:54:57.640
<v Speaker 1>like that. But I think you've got a good mindset.

0:54:58.440 --> 0:55:01.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh well, thank you. Do you have anything to add, Ben,

0:55:01.640 --> 0:55:04.200
<v Speaker 1>I actually hate to say this, but I really like

0:55:04.440 --> 0:55:07.040
<v Speaker 1>what Chelsea had to say. But I would also add

0:55:07.120 --> 0:55:10.600
<v Speaker 1>that they have a lot of workout programs that you

0:55:10.680 --> 0:55:12.640
<v Speaker 1>can get that you can do at home. So if

0:55:12.680 --> 0:55:15.600
<v Speaker 1>you just have an aversion to the gym. There are

0:55:15.680 --> 0:55:17.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of home workout programs, and I know a

0:55:18.000 --> 0:55:22.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of female trainers do stuff where the workout program

0:55:22.560 --> 0:55:28.040
<v Speaker 1>includes an online fitness community element like Facebook, book groups

0:55:28.080 --> 0:55:30.560
<v Speaker 1>and whatnot. So if you struggle with accountability, some of

0:55:30.600 --> 0:55:32.400
<v Speaker 1>those might be good. You do it and then you

0:55:32.480 --> 0:55:35.680
<v Speaker 1>report back to the trainer and the group. That's not

0:55:35.800 --> 0:55:37.600
<v Speaker 1>totally my thing, so I'm not I can't think of

0:55:37.640 --> 0:55:38.880
<v Speaker 1>any off the top of my head, but I know

0:55:38.960 --> 0:55:42.680
<v Speaker 1>they exist. I would also I want to plug my girlfriend.

0:55:42.880 --> 0:55:47.000
<v Speaker 1>She is Celiac. She has a whole thing. She's on

0:55:47.320 --> 0:55:52.160
<v Speaker 1>Instagram and has a blog called yeah at No Bread,

0:55:52.719 --> 0:55:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Um at No Bread, and it's like a website and

0:55:55.719 --> 0:55:59.120
<v Speaker 1>an Instagram handle that has she is an amazing cook,

0:55:59.200 --> 0:56:01.800
<v Speaker 1>but it's all glue and free stuff. Yeah, you should

0:56:01.800 --> 0:56:04.440
<v Speaker 1>follow her. She's got great recipes and great brands to

0:56:04.640 --> 0:56:08.120
<v Speaker 1>buy all of that stuff. Absolutely, I'm always looking for

0:56:08.200 --> 0:56:10.960
<v Speaker 1>new things. Yeah, but I would look at some of

0:56:11.040 --> 0:56:15.000
<v Speaker 1>the online The female trainers that do online programming do

0:56:15.080 --> 0:56:17.680
<v Speaker 1>a really great job of doing stuff to build a community.

0:56:17.719 --> 0:56:19.239
<v Speaker 1>If you just hate going to the gym, you can

0:56:20.000 --> 0:56:22.799
<v Speaker 1>check in with people online and whatnot. Yeah, I don't

0:56:22.800 --> 0:56:25.799
<v Speaker 1>even know. I guess I don't have an adversion going

0:56:25.880 --> 0:56:28.360
<v Speaker 1>to the gym. I just I guess maybe just to

0:56:28.400 --> 0:56:32.359
<v Speaker 1>get started and just not look at it as, oh,

0:56:32.800 --> 0:56:34.520
<v Speaker 1>let me go rund my bike. It's all fun, and

0:56:34.920 --> 0:56:37.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, I know when I do go, I feel good,

0:56:37.800 --> 0:56:40.560
<v Speaker 1>I have results. I just don't know what the mind blocking.

0:56:40.600 --> 0:56:42.080
<v Speaker 1>You just have to find a class you like and

0:56:42.120 --> 0:56:44.040
<v Speaker 1>then you're gonna be down with going. That's it. Just

0:56:44.200 --> 0:56:46.279
<v Speaker 1>find a class you like and go and do the

0:56:46.360 --> 0:56:48.640
<v Speaker 1>social aspect of it too. And if you don't like

0:56:48.719 --> 0:56:50.319
<v Speaker 1>going to the gym but you like the working out,

0:56:50.400 --> 0:56:51.719
<v Speaker 1>then do what you know and then get one of

0:56:51.760 --> 0:56:55.160
<v Speaker 1>those I mean, they're on peloton, they're on tonal. There's

0:56:55.160 --> 0:56:56.839
<v Speaker 1>all these types of things you can do at home.

0:56:57.040 --> 0:56:58.480
<v Speaker 1>But I hear what you're saying, but you just have

0:56:58.600 --> 0:57:00.200
<v Speaker 1>to like dive in and find the thing that you

0:57:00.280 --> 0:57:01.600
<v Speaker 1>like to do, and then you'll want to go to

0:57:01.680 --> 0:57:03.400
<v Speaker 1>the gym. One more thing, I want to add a

0:57:03.480 --> 0:57:06.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of people when they embark on strength training for

0:57:06.200 --> 0:57:08.279
<v Speaker 1>the first time, feel like they have to do this

0:57:08.480 --> 0:57:11.759
<v Speaker 1>whole crazy program and work out an hour at a time,

0:57:11.800 --> 0:57:15.759
<v Speaker 1>and it's totally fine. I would maybe start with like

0:57:15.880 --> 0:57:18.240
<v Speaker 1>fift twenty minute workouts, and just dip your toe in,

0:57:18.320 --> 0:57:19.960
<v Speaker 1>and I think as you get a little better at it,

0:57:20.040 --> 0:57:24.160
<v Speaker 1>you might like it more too. Okay, starting small amounts,

0:57:24.280 --> 0:57:27.400
<v Speaker 1>maybe that's my problem. I just feel like I have to. Well,

0:57:27.480 --> 0:57:29.520
<v Speaker 1>strength training is a thing that if you just come

0:57:29.560 --> 0:57:31.959
<v Speaker 1>in guns and blazing and go too hard, you're gonna

0:57:31.960 --> 0:57:34.080
<v Speaker 1>be sort of shipped. So I think, I sometimes think

0:57:34.480 --> 0:57:37.040
<v Speaker 1>and that's very de motivating. So I think that if

0:57:37.080 --> 0:57:42.240
<v Speaker 1>you start slowly and build progressively to kind of mitigate

0:57:42.320 --> 0:57:44.280
<v Speaker 1>that soreness and get used to it, it will help

0:57:44.320 --> 0:57:47.520
<v Speaker 1>you in the long term. Okay, great, thank you so much.

0:57:47.800 --> 0:57:51.360
<v Speaker 1>I will try both the online and just moving to

0:57:51.440 --> 0:57:54.920
<v Speaker 1>the gym and making it a social thing. Cool. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for calling in. Thank you bye. And on note, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm done talking about nutrition. Well let's take a

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<v Speaker 1>break so we can be done talking about that and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be right back with Chelsea and Ben Bruno and

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<v Speaker 1>we're back. Excellent. Well, Bennett, that's point in the show.

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<v Speaker 1>We like to ask our guests if they would like

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<v Speaker 1>to ask Chelsea for some advice, be not really to

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<v Speaker 1>be honest with you. I mean, that's that's why I

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<v Speaker 1>go to therapy, so I don't have to ask people

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<v Speaker 1>at Chelsea for advice. Accept that. I feel like if

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<v Speaker 1>I asked Chelsea for advice, I would end up like

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<v Speaker 1>face down in a ditch somewhere. Then why hasn't that

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<v Speaker 1>already happened? Because I don't take what you say like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't, I don't really interesting, I don't pay attention. Yeah, interesting, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that means that Ben Bruno doesn't have any

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<v Speaker 1>questions for me, And you know what, I'm totally down

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<v Speaker 1>with that. I need the day off of answering questions.

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<v Speaker 1>What questions would I have for Chelsea? Well, why don't

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<v Speaker 1>you think I have a question? I do it. I

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<v Speaker 1>knew if you were me, how would you deal with

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<v Speaker 1>the client? Like you? Because I've struggled with this for

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<v Speaker 1>seven eight years, however long we've trained every single day.

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<v Speaker 1>I think like I don't know what to do in

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<v Speaker 1>this situation. I'm well, fire me if you if I

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<v Speaker 1>make you so, But like probably of the time you're pleasant, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's either this is the bed you made and

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<v Speaker 1>now you either have to lie in it, not lay

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<v Speaker 1>in it. You have to lie in it or fire me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I mean, the ball is in your court. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I of the time, So you're not going to fire

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<v Speaker 1>the juice is worth the squeeze. No, I'm not okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So then there we go. Then what do you How

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<v Speaker 1>would you deal with me? I don't know what to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you. I wouldn't know how to deal with me either.

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<v Speaker 1>That that actually makes me feel good to hear. That

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<v Speaker 1>makes me. This is been big. This is a cathartic

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<v Speaker 1>podcast for me. It's been such a release bed. Where

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<v Speaker 1>can everybody find you? At the Kitchen. That's the name

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<v Speaker 1>of his gym at his house. It's called the kitchen

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<v Speaker 1>and his address is exactly don't say the address. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have an it's you of Instagram, Ben Ben Bruno training,

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Bruno train er in one of training Bruno training

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<v Speaker 1>to research this really not really, that's the wrap up.

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<v Speaker 1>We're done, Catherine, We're done here. Good night. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you'd like advice from Chelsea, just send us an email

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