1
00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,920
Speaker 1: Hi everybody. While I'm taking the month of September off

2
00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,120
Speaker 1: of doing stand up, I return on October one to

3
00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:11,240
Speaker 1: complete my Vaccinated and Horny tour. October, November, and December,

4
00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,520
Speaker 1: I have new dates up. I kick it off in Saratoga, California,

5
00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,720
Speaker 1: and I'm coming to all parts of California, Long Beach,

6
00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:23,840
Speaker 1: Baker's Field. I'm going to Niagara Falls, Tucson, Arizona, Colorado, Minneapolis,

7
00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,640
Speaker 1: San Diego, Reading, Pennsylvania, and Baltimore, Maryland, just to name

8
00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,280
Speaker 1: a few. There's also some Floridian dates in there, since

9
00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,040
Speaker 1: this will be my last year that I'm able to

10
00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,080
Speaker 1: go inside the state of Florida. So check out Chelsea

11
00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:37,960
Speaker 1: Handler dot com for more stand up dates for my

12
00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:42,600
Speaker 1: Vaccinated in Horny Tour. These are my last dates. Okay,

13
00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,120
Speaker 1: hello Catherine, Hi Chelsea. Oh my god, I am fresh

14
00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:50,240
Speaker 1: as a daisy. I'm so glad. I had a big

15
00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,680
Speaker 1: photo shoot this weekend and I had to really nail

16
00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,640
Speaker 1: it down, which was not hard at all. I actually

17
00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,760
Speaker 1: enjoyed the week of preparation because I had been on

18
00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:03,040
Speaker 1: vacation for base only a month and drinking obviously a lot,

19
00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:07,199
Speaker 1: and eating whatever I felt like. Actually, no I'm pretty

20
00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,039
Speaker 1: good when I'm my vacation, I don't go off. But anyway,

21
00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,520
Speaker 1: I had to get my act together for this photo

22
00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,240
Speaker 1: shoot that will be coming out soon. I won't say

23
00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,040
Speaker 1: what it is for yet, but everyone's going to find

24
00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,399
Speaker 1: out because it'll probably be a pretty big campaign. But

25
00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,039
Speaker 1: I love having to get ready for something because that's

26
00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,160
Speaker 1: the only reason I would just get it. Like I

27
00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,760
Speaker 1: came home for a week hunkered down. I'm like, on

28
00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,440
Speaker 1: my program, no drinking, no bada. I have been smoking pot,

29
00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,479
Speaker 1: but I'm not supposed to be smoking pot at all

30
00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,039
Speaker 1: because of my situation with my vocal cords. But I

31
00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,399
Speaker 1: decided to give myself a treat and I started a

32
00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,720
Speaker 1: new endorsement deal, also a brand partnership deal with a

33
00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,160
Speaker 1: company called leisure Town, which is a cannabis drink. So

34
00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,760
Speaker 1: you will be getting a full supply of that because

35
00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,600
Speaker 1: it has the lowest amount of sugar. It only has

36
00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,200
Speaker 1: four grams of sugar. It's calories and they're light, so

37
00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,680
Speaker 1: you can get CBD or you can get th HC,

38
00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,360
Speaker 1: and the th HC version only has two point five

39
00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,440
Speaker 1: milligram of th HC. So yeah, I'm going to bring

40
00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,600
Speaker 1: you a kid. I love that. Absolutely, that's so exciting

41
00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,440
Speaker 1: to see. I'm somebody who works the deadlines too. Like

42
00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,760
Speaker 1: if I have something that I know is coming up,

43
00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,919
Speaker 1: like I can get it done, I can make it happen.

44
00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,880
Speaker 1: But like I need that sort of motivation that impetus

45
00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,120
Speaker 1: to like here's what I'm aiming for. Yeah, you know, yeah,

46
00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,639
Speaker 1: absolutely I need a deadline as well. If they left

47
00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,560
Speaker 1: to my own devices, I mean I would just basically

48
00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,519
Speaker 1: sit on my ass and it smoked pot with Bert

49
00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,040
Speaker 1: and just stare at him until the taco arrived. I

50
00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,320
Speaker 1: love it. He likes Spot a little bit more than Bernice. Well,

51
00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,960
Speaker 1: he's like a pothead, you know. That explains his laziness.

52
00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,200
Speaker 1: They're so sweet though, since I haven't been there, they

53
00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,640
Speaker 1: love me now and they come in my room at

54
00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,919
Speaker 1: night and they're both on the floor and then Bert

55
00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,160
Speaker 1: looks at me in the morning like when are you

56
00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,280
Speaker 1: going to feed me? And I'm like, oh, honey, I

57
00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,120
Speaker 1: am going to feed you. Actually, because when I'm home now,

58
00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,480
Speaker 1: I take their feeding more seriously because I'm wanting to

59
00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,600
Speaker 1: know that I too love them. I'm just not that

60
00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,320
Speaker 1: interested in sticking around their way, right, and like the

61
00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,840
Speaker 1: food comes from you when you're home, not my bell

62
00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,600
Speaker 1: and yeah. Well, we have a quick follow up from

63
00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,120
Speaker 1: one of our callers. This is from Quinn, who called

64
00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,440
Speaker 1: in on our episode with Ashley Graham a few weeks ago.

65
00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,640
Speaker 1: She had sort of wanted to know if she should

66
00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:16,400
Speaker 1: lose weight before getting into the dating scene. And she says, Hey,

67
00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,440
Speaker 1: Chelsea and Catherine. I know it's only been a short

68
00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,600
Speaker 1: time since we last spoke, but I wanted to give

69
00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,440
Speaker 1: a progress update. I just recently started a new job

70
00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,440
Speaker 1: as a campaign manager for my boss's state Assembly reelection campaign.

71
00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,640
Speaker 1: Don't worry, He's a Democrat and damn good one at that.

72
00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,720
Speaker 1: At first, I was really nervous about taking this job,

73
00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,480
Speaker 1: as I would be in a new city where I

74
00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't know anyone. However, per your advice, I've begun journaling

75
00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,640
Speaker 1: most nights and have become more conscious of how I've

76
00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,520
Speaker 1: been treating myself, both physically and mentally. All of this

77
00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,720
Speaker 1: has helped me find new avenues of confidence, like being

78
00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,720
Speaker 1: a motherfucking campaign manager. This new confidence has helped me

79
00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,840
Speaker 1: get on the dating apps again in this new city

80
00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,920
Speaker 1: and begin swiping away. I haven't had a date yet,

81
00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,800
Speaker 1: but I'm definitely talking to multiple people right now, and

82
00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,920
Speaker 1: it's always fun. I know I will definitely have to

83
00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,080
Speaker 1: keep building my confidence and my healthy living journey is

84
00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,120
Speaker 1: far from over, but I am proud of the progress

85
00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,200
Speaker 1: I've made so far. Thanks for your help. Quinn. Oh,

86
00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,839
Speaker 1: great job, Quinn, wait to fucking get after it. Good job.

87
00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,159
Speaker 1: I love that, I know. And it's like when you

88
00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,919
Speaker 1: start doing other things, you realize, like man, confidence can

89
00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,320
Speaker 1: come from all these different places, like it just doesn't

90
00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,360
Speaker 1: have to come from like one avenue in your life. Absolutely,

91
00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,680
Speaker 1: confidence can come from your friendships, from your family, from

92
00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,880
Speaker 1: your job, from you know, your relationship with yourself, from

93
00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,880
Speaker 1: your animals. You're just making contributions. It builds, instills confidence

94
00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,400
Speaker 1: and builds it absolutely well. It's actually a fitting follow

95
00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,400
Speaker 1: up for our guest today. He is going to join

96
00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,280
Speaker 1: us here in st Okay. Guys, you're in for a

97
00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,400
Speaker 1: real special treat. Okay. I have Ben Bruno, my trainer,

98
00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,560
Speaker 1: is our guest today and I have spent every morning

99
00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,000
Speaker 1: at eight o'clock with him for the last week. So

100
00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,440
Speaker 1: the last thing I want to do is spend an

101
00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,919
Speaker 1: hour with him on this podcast. But guess what he's

102
00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:07,000
Speaker 1: coming right in Yo yo yo, Ben, you put on headphones.

103
00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,520
Speaker 1: All right, Ben Bruno's here today everyone. He's my personal

104
00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,880
Speaker 1: trainer and Catherine, have you ever met Ben before? And

105
00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,160
Speaker 1: not in person, just see him on your Instagram. Okay,

106
00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,240
Speaker 1: well this must be a thrill for you. Ben. Thank

107
00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,440
Speaker 1: you first of all for bringing me coffee. That was

108
00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,920
Speaker 1: really nice. I brought her coffee. I just go. Yeah,

109
00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,360
Speaker 1: he brought Katherine and me coffee. If it was for you,

110
00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,440
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have brought it. Well, you were texting me,

111
00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,240
Speaker 1: so it's pretty weird that you don't know that that

112
00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,960
Speaker 1: was for me. But furthermore, why did you call me

113
00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,600
Speaker 1: when I put my order in for the coffee? Oh?

114
00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,400
Speaker 1: Because the order I didn't know what it was. It

115
00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,120
Speaker 1: was called the Starbucks Refresher, which I didn't know what

116
00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,720
Speaker 1: that meant. And then when I ordered it no lemonade.

117
00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,600
Speaker 1: I was faced with the choice of mango, strawberry or pineapple.

118
00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,719
Speaker 1: So I called and nobody picked up. So I just

119
00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,919
Speaker 1: went with mango. So whoever that is, you're getting mango,

120
00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,040
Speaker 1: I'm really pleased. I've never tried the mango one before,

121
00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,599
Speaker 1: So here we are. We just picked what I would want.

122
00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,000
Speaker 1: If you didn't like it, I was like, then I

123
00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:08,520
Speaker 1: would go with Mango. Thank you, Ben, strong decision making. So, Catherine,

124
00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,840
Speaker 1: Ben has been my trainer for how many years been?

125
00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,720
Speaker 1: What's our too long? Probably seven years, seven or eight years,

126
00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,080
Speaker 1: A long time, A long time. I would say it's

127
00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,280
Speaker 1: probably common law at this point. Hey annoyed me, extremely

128
00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,000
Speaker 1: annoyed me from the very outset of our relationships, and

129
00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,880
Speaker 1: I also annoy him a great deal. But we've managed

130
00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,200
Speaker 1: to remain in a trainer relationship for a very long time,

131
00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,720
Speaker 1: my longest trainer relationship, that's for sure. And so he's

132
00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,159
Speaker 1: trained a lot of my friends and a lot of

133
00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,560
Speaker 1: my family members, and no one who's really as enthusiastic

134
00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,440
Speaker 1: as I am about working out. I wouldn't I wouldn't

135
00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,200
Speaker 1: call it enthusiastic. No, you're not enthusiastic at all. But well,

136
00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,480
Speaker 1: what it's my motivation? Then I will say, you always

137
00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,240
Speaker 1: do show up, but you never seem to like it. Well,

138
00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what kind of excitement you

139
00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,440
Speaker 1: want to happen during a workout where you come out

140
00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,240
Speaker 1: of a set and you're like, fuck, that was killed.

141
00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,400
Speaker 1: I don't. I get it's just working out, But I

142
00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,919
Speaker 1: also think I've never actually met trying to think that

143
00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,040
Speaker 1: this is true. But I don't think I've met anyone

144
00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,000
Speaker 1: that complains more than you do. I don't. That's such bullshit.

145
00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,520
Speaker 1: That is a total bullshit. No, it's not about working out.

146
00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,200
Speaker 1: I complain about or put me on a polygraph. I'm serious. Well,

147
00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,480
Speaker 1: we don't have a polygraph, Ben, because that's from the

148
00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,240
Speaker 1: I'm telling the truth. No, they still use polygraph not

149
00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,640
Speaker 1: admissible in court though. Anyway, Ben, are you what people

150
00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,520
Speaker 1: would consider a bro? In some ways? I'm a bro?

151
00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,680
Speaker 1: I yeah, I don't like to admit it. But when

152
00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,880
Speaker 1: I think of my interests and what I do for

153
00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,840
Speaker 1: fun and things, for better or worse, I'm just like

154
00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,840
Speaker 1: a typical dude. Right, Okay, so you what does that

155
00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,160
Speaker 1: mean to you? What are your interests? You know, I

156
00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,920
Speaker 1: like working out, I like watching football. I love golf.

157
00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,080
Speaker 1: I love watching golf. All my golf friends understand that

158
00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,120
Speaker 1: everyone else thinks that's the dumbest thing ever. I like

159
00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,520
Speaker 1: dude stuff. I like, uh, you know, my go to

160
00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,200
Speaker 1: order is a burger and fries. Yeah, I would say

161
00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm pretty average. I actually googled average height for a

162
00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,880
Speaker 1: dude because I have a lot of friends that play basketball,

163
00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,640
Speaker 1: and so when I'm around them. I feel like I'm

164
00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,960
Speaker 1: just three ft tall, and I'm right on average. I'm

165
00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,080
Speaker 1: five nine and three quarters and the average according to

166
00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:18,320
Speaker 1: Google is five nine and like point six. And then

167
00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,400
Speaker 1: my shoe size is a nine and a half, which

168
00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,000
Speaker 1: is average for a guy. So in just about every way,

169
00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,280
Speaker 1: I'm average. Well that's good for you to know. I'm

170
00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,840
Speaker 1: glad that there's scientific data behind that to back up

171
00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:34,559
Speaker 1: that argument, because yes, nine three quarters, So stop that

172
00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:39,440
Speaker 1: that's ridiculous. Well, no one is saying three quarters. I listen,

173
00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,520
Speaker 1: I will round up. I'm gonna say five ten. Say

174
00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,960
Speaker 1: that that's better than saying five nine and three quarters.

175
00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,120
Speaker 1: Why why do you say five ten minus one quarter?

176
00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,160
Speaker 1: See just so the listeners. No, this is the type

177
00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,640
Speaker 1: of ship that I deal with every single workout. Chelsea

178
00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,680
Speaker 1: comes in every day. I'm gonna I'm gonna give the listeners.

179
00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,600
Speaker 1: This is actually therapy for me. I'm gonna give the

180
00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,559
Speaker 1: listeners like taste into what I deal with on a

181
00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,960
Speaker 1: daily basis. She comes in, I say, Hi, how are

182
00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:11,200
Speaker 1: you feeling? Because that's actually very important because I'm a trainer.

183
00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,400
Speaker 1: I need to know how your body is feeling. Then

184
00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,840
Speaker 1: I say how you doing, which to me means like

185
00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,320
Speaker 1: you're like mental state, what's been going on? Whatever? Also,

186
00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,440
Speaker 1: to backtrack, I see Chelsea every fucking day, So a

187
00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,200
Speaker 1: big part of it is just trying to kill the hour.

188
00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,200
Speaker 1: I need talking points. Yeah, well that's what you do

189
00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:32,040
Speaker 1: need because the questions you ask are repetitive. When I say,

190
00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,600
Speaker 1: how is your body feeling? Then how you're doing? She goes,

191
00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,760
Speaker 1: you just ask me that, You just ask me because

192
00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,320
Speaker 1: you do. You have different things, but you repeat yourself

193
00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,679
Speaker 1: all the time. You go, you go like this, hold on,

194
00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,400
Speaker 1: let me talk now, you say, he goes, I come in,

195
00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:48,400
Speaker 1: He goes, Hey, how you doing good? How you doing? Yeah?

196
00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,640
Speaker 1: Time the third No, well, then come up with some

197
00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,560
Speaker 1: new material. There's not new material nothing. You can't just

198
00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,320
Speaker 1: keep asking the same question and hoping for a different answer.

199
00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,760
Speaker 1: That doesn't make any accumulate talking points if I do

200
00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,360
Speaker 1: something on the weekend. But otherwise my day's my life's

201
00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,360
Speaker 1: ground Hug day. I trained people, and then I eat

202
00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,680
Speaker 1: dinner and I watch a little TV, go to bed

203
00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,000
Speaker 1: call today, so there's not much for us to talk

204
00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,400
Speaker 1: about from Monday to Tuesday to Wednesday. Also, her life

205
00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,080
Speaker 1: is ground Hug day, so she don't have shipped to

206
00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,240
Speaker 1: talk about either, So I'm just grasping at straws. And

207
00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,480
Speaker 1: then everything I do say she tells me is a

208
00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,800
Speaker 1: dumb question. And then also just so that people know

209
00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,720
Speaker 1: as a trainer, I I actually I find this funny.

210
00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,880
Speaker 1: I take pride in being pretty creative. I'll to my

211
00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,560
Speaker 1: own horn. I I got named the most innovative trainer

212
00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,439
Speaker 1: by Men's Health. Meanwhile, every single day two years, Yeah,

213
00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,960
Speaker 1: and I'm still it is what it is. Meanwhile, in

214
00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,719
Speaker 1: my field, I'm considered innovative every day that since I've

215
00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,800
Speaker 1: trained Chelsea, which I don't know how many days that is,

216
00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,079
Speaker 1: but it's way too many. She goes Google new Ship.

217
00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,560
Speaker 1: We did this one before, as if like that's what

218
00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,479
Speaker 1: training is. You were just pretty much otate twenty exercises

219
00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,640
Speaker 1: till one of us gets sick of the other person

220
00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,120
Speaker 1: and moves on. But every day it's like Google new ship,

221
00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:11,120
Speaker 1: Google new ship. And then any time I show something different,

222
00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,679
Speaker 1: she's like, this is way dumber than the original one.

223
00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,760
Speaker 1: This is like dumb. So that is what I go

224
00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:22,760
Speaker 1: through people, and you love it. You love it. I'm

225
00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,760
Speaker 1: glad it seems like you're getting stuff off your chest.

226
00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,559
Speaker 1: So Katherine Ben is a very straight bro. How I

227
00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,320
Speaker 1: would classify him in my group of people that I know,

228
00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,960
Speaker 1: and he goes to therapy. He has a therapist that

229
00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,800
Speaker 1: he's been seeing for a few years now, right, six

230
00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:45,440
Speaker 1: or seven? Oh yeah, six or seven years. And let's

231
00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,720
Speaker 1: talk about I would like to hear about your therapy

232
00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,480
Speaker 1: experience as a male, as a bro, because a lot

233
00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,719
Speaker 1: of men can't go to therapy and they don't want

234
00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,439
Speaker 1: to even talk about what's really happening because they're scared

235
00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,480
Speaker 1: and they don't think it's a necessary So what's been

236
00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,920
Speaker 1: your experience? Well, I'll tell you how it started. I

237
00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,640
Speaker 1: tried therapy at two different points in my life before

238
00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,959
Speaker 1: this little six month run. Once six year ru six

239
00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,640
Speaker 1: year run. Sorry. Once when I was ten years old,

240
00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,040
Speaker 1: I got put in therapy, but I don't think it

241
00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,360
Speaker 1: was therapy. I think it was um, I don't know

242
00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,640
Speaker 1: all the differences, but this guy was a psychiatrist. To

243
00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,480
Speaker 1: backtrack real quick, my my dad passed away when I

244
00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,520
Speaker 1: was nine, and that's obviously there's a lot of ship

245
00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,000
Speaker 1: that comes with that. So my mom put me in

246
00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,920
Speaker 1: therapy with the guy that my dad had actually seen,

247
00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:40,040
Speaker 1: and that was definitely different than the therapy, I do now,

248
00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,360
Speaker 1: because that was like I would say to him that

249
00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,520
Speaker 1: that was a failed attempt. I guess because he would

250
00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,839
Speaker 1: say he was a medicine guy, and I think maybe

251
00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:52,120
Speaker 1: some people benefit from medicine, but I think sometimes feelings

252
00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,560
Speaker 1: of depression and stuff can be situational. Sometimes it's probably chemical,

253
00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,839
Speaker 1: sometimes it's situational. And I just remember at ten, the

254
00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,960
Speaker 1: guy would say to me, how do you feel about

255
00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,160
Speaker 1: your dad dying? And I'd say, I'm sad, and I'm like, dude,

256
00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,080
Speaker 1: who wouldn't be sid And then I went again when

257
00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,400
Speaker 1: I was probably nineteen or twenty. At another low point

258
00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,319
Speaker 1: in my life. I had a back surgery when I

259
00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,760
Speaker 1: was nineteen in college, and the surgery did nerve damage

260
00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,400
Speaker 1: in my right leg, and in hindsight, it was a

261
00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,880
Speaker 1: great thing for me because it got me into physical

262
00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,840
Speaker 1: fitness and now I'm a trainer because of it. But

263
00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,920
Speaker 1: at the time it was a real low point because

264
00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,120
Speaker 1: I had always been very physically active and into sports.

265
00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,800
Speaker 1: And after the surgery, I lost about forty pounds and

266
00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,520
Speaker 1: I'm I was this big to begin with, so I

267
00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,439
Speaker 1: didn't even have that to lose. I was super skinny

268
00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,440
Speaker 1: week and just really depressed because my right leg like

269
00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,880
Speaker 1: basically shut down. I couldn't drive or anything like that.

270
00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,200
Speaker 1: And so I was super depressed and tried therapy again,

271
00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,480
Speaker 1: but I wasn't really open to it at the time.

272
00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,520
Speaker 1: Long story short, Now this is my third foray into it,

273
00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:01,640
Speaker 1: and this time started about six years ago. I woke

274
00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,520
Speaker 1: up one day and thought I just drank too much

275
00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,760
Speaker 1: coffee on an empty stomach and just felt wired and

276
00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,520
Speaker 1: just got something to eat, kind of went about my day.

277
00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,840
Speaker 1: Second day this happened, I felt this crazy fast heartbeat

278
00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,719
Speaker 1: the middle of Los Angeles, which is hot, and I

279
00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,480
Speaker 1: was freezing cold and felt like I couldn't take in air.

280
00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,280
Speaker 1: It was this really weird feeling. I couldn't breathe. So

281
00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,640
Speaker 1: I was training a guy I still trained him now,

282
00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:28,760
Speaker 1: and he was like, dude, you gotta go to the doctor.

283
00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,240
Speaker 1: So I went to the doctor. They did this whole

284
00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,880
Speaker 1: work up on me E k G. The treadmill test,

285
00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,200
Speaker 1: and then the guy told me I had a panic attack,

286
00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,080
Speaker 1: and I was like, what the fuck. I think most

287
00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,760
Speaker 1: of my friends people in my life would describe me

288
00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,680
Speaker 1: as pretty chill. This is like, right now, this is

289
00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,920
Speaker 1: as animated as I ever get. I'm a pretty even

290
00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,840
Speaker 1: keel person, and so the panic attack thing felt weird

291
00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,040
Speaker 1: to me because I usually felt like I was never

292
00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,840
Speaker 1: two up or down, and that really threw me for

293
00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,640
Speaker 1: a loop because I was like, wait, am I like

294
00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,160
Speaker 1: cra easy? Like what is this thing? The panic attack

295
00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,480
Speaker 1: was made worse by all those feelings that I think

296
00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,840
Speaker 1: people dudes might have when they think of, like I've

297
00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,880
Speaker 1: had a panic attack, because it seems weird. And I

298
00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,360
Speaker 1: took myself down this whole rabbit hole over that. This

299
00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,880
Speaker 1: is over the course of three or four days, where

300
00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,880
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't believe I had a panic attack,

301
00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,440
Speaker 1: Like am I like this anxiety kind of person? Now?

302
00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,640
Speaker 1: I just felt very weird about it, and so someone

303
00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:28,240
Speaker 1: suggested therapy, and then the first person that was recommended

304
00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,640
Speaker 1: to me. Her advice was to carry around a brown

305
00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,840
Speaker 1: paper bag in case you get anxiety and then you

306
00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,280
Speaker 1: can breathe into it. And I'm like, yeah, no, I'm

307
00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,520
Speaker 1: not doing that. So then I was talking to one

308
00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,360
Speaker 1: of my family friends from home because I had remembered

309
00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,240
Speaker 1: his son got anxiety, and to be truthful, I didn't

310
00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,760
Speaker 1: even really know what anxiety was prior to that, and

311
00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,200
Speaker 1: he told me that there's this woman in l A

312
00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,080
Speaker 1: that it was a great therapist, and I looked her

313
00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,920
Speaker 1: up and she happened to be very close to my house.

314
00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,680
Speaker 1: So I've seen her ever since that panic attack, And

315
00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:06,440
Speaker 1: originally my first appointment was just to figure out why

316
00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:07,920
Speaker 1: I had a panic attack, and then I've just been

317
00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,040
Speaker 1: going ever since. In some ways, I think of it

318
00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,040
Speaker 1: like a paid friend, but a friend that just gives

319
00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,640
Speaker 1: like way better advice than my real friends. Because the

320
00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,760
Speaker 1: thing about dudes, dudes don't want to go to therapy,

321
00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,040
Speaker 1: But I bet guys we probably need it more than

322
00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,120
Speaker 1: women because guys just in general give shitty advice. So

323
00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,320
Speaker 1: if you ever talk to your friends about your problems,

324
00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,880
Speaker 1: you're not getting good advice. They're probably gonna direct you

325
00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:31,960
Speaker 1: in a way that will like lead to more problems.

326
00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,000
Speaker 1: So I think it's good to just have a professional opinion.

327
00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,760
Speaker 1: And then also too, I do spend a lot of

328
00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,800
Speaker 1: time as a trainer. I take on a lot of

329
00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,120
Speaker 1: other people's problems over the course of the day. They

330
00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,200
Speaker 1: tell me all their stuff, but I don't really get

331
00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,160
Speaker 1: too into my stuff. And I realized that it's just

332
00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:53,880
Speaker 1: good for me to have you have this outlet to

333
00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,240
Speaker 1: get everything off your Yeah, I haven't spoken in like

334
00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,800
Speaker 1: eight minutes, so I mean, let it rap. I'm just talking. Honestly.

335
00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,040
Speaker 1: I had to deal with Chelsea for an hour already today,

336
00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,640
Speaker 1: so I can't hear her talk anymore. I'm just gonna

337
00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,000
Speaker 1: keep talking. But I think for me, it's just I

338
00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,119
Speaker 1: go once a week or once every other week, and

339
00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,040
Speaker 1: I get a good sounding board, and I think sometimes

340
00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,480
Speaker 1: even if there's actually a lot of times I will

341
00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,760
Speaker 1: say I've told her straight up that I'm not really

342
00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,760
Speaker 1: good at the therapy process. Sometimes she'll ask me. I'll

343
00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,080
Speaker 1: be telling her something and she'll ask me, like, how

344
00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,040
Speaker 1: does that make you feel? And I'm like, I don't know,

345
00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:29,919
Speaker 1: Like I'm still trying to figure out my emotions. But

346
00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,560
Speaker 1: I think talking through things sometimes I solve my own problems.

347
00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,399
Speaker 1: But it's also just good to have someone to talk to.

348
00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:42,880
Speaker 1: And it's made me probably better than maybe it has.

349
00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. Your body is pretty good. At least

350
00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,880
Speaker 1: I've yet to google any exercises for her personality. We're

351
00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,639
Speaker 1: working on that, but I do think it helps me.

352
00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,080
Speaker 1: I noticed. I think it's helped me a lot in

353
00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,359
Speaker 1: now I have a living girlfriend. It's helped me with

354
00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,800
Speaker 1: that type of stuff and she likes it. I go

355
00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,840
Speaker 1: to therapy, so do dude should go? Just it's probably

356
00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,560
Speaker 1: a better way to get girls too. I think girls

357
00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:07,639
Speaker 1: actually now it's like now it's cool. Now it's cool.

358
00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,239
Speaker 1: So the other part to this is I remember when

359
00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,600
Speaker 1: I first went to therapy. There was like sort of

360
00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:17,000
Speaker 1: a shame when I had the panic attack where I

361
00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,280
Speaker 1: felt like I was copying to guilt to a couple

362
00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:23,040
Speaker 1: of my buddies and across the board all my guy friends.

363
00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,480
Speaker 1: But one was like, oh, yeah, dude, I go to

364
00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,280
Speaker 1: And I was like, what the funk? I've known you

365
00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,000
Speaker 1: forever and I don't even know this. Guys just don't

366
00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,680
Speaker 1: really talk about it. But I think it's more common

367
00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,840
Speaker 1: than they think. Do Have you had a panic attack

368
00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,920
Speaker 1: since you went to therapy? You know? I don't think

369
00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,200
Speaker 1: to that level, but yes I have. But it's it's

370
00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,640
Speaker 1: actually way better now knowing what it is, because I've

371
00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,959
Speaker 1: had times stress, you know, and who I don't know

372
00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,760
Speaker 1: the continuum of panic attack for stress first whatever, but

373
00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:55,200
Speaker 1: I've definitely had times where I'll be feeling nervous about

374
00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,560
Speaker 1: something or uncomfortable or just unhappy, and then my heart

375
00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,000
Speaker 1: rate just gets jacked. It's like I can feel it

376
00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,720
Speaker 1: throughout my whole body, or I'll just start sweating or

377
00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,840
Speaker 1: things like that. And so I've learned now it's less

378
00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,240
Speaker 1: of a panic attack, because i think part of the

379
00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,280
Speaker 1: panic part comes, at least for me, from not knowing

380
00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:16,760
Speaker 1: what it was. But when you know what it is,

381
00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:21,840
Speaker 1: and I've learned breathing techniques and I've learned how powerful

382
00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:26,200
Speaker 1: breath can be to back that stuff down. The breathing

383
00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,080
Speaker 1: thing is crazy in the sense that I can go

384
00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:35,240
Speaker 1: from feeling jacked up to like a zen like stoned,

385
00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,760
Speaker 1: in like a minute, just through breath. What breathing exercises

386
00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,560
Speaker 1: do you do? Uh? Well, they're all cousins of each other.

387
00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,200
Speaker 1: I think I've learned different ones, but one is called

388
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,280
Speaker 1: It's just a breathing ladder that I learned, and that

389
00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,840
Speaker 1: is essentially the exhales twice as long as the inhale.

390
00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,800
Speaker 1: So you breathe in for one second, out for two,

391
00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:01,280
Speaker 1: in for two out for four, three, six, four, eight,

392
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,560
Speaker 1: five ten, then you do five ten twice and then

393
00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,800
Speaker 1: go back down four eight, three, six, etcetera. And by

394
00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:11,639
Speaker 1: the end, etcetera. And then by the end you know

395
00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,440
Speaker 1: you you either are cool, or you do it once through.

396
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,439
Speaker 1: Another thing that I just learned actually from therapy is

397
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,440
Speaker 1: called square breathing, and I believe in and it started

398
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,240
Speaker 1: with the Navy seals. I could be wrong about that,

399
00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,000
Speaker 1: but I think that's what she said, and that's essentially

400
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 1: think of a square. So the you inhale for four,

401
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,920
Speaker 1: then hold it for four seconds, exhale for four, hold

402
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,720
Speaker 1: it for four seconds, and you repeat that. Another thing

403
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,720
Speaker 1: is called five seven eight. You'll see they're all related,

404
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 1: but five five seven eight is breathe in for five,

405
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,159
Speaker 1: hold it for seven, exhale for eight. That that I

406
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 1: learned from my training mentor, Mike Boyle, and that takes

407
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 1: it's a twenty second breath and you go through three times.

408
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 1: He actually told it to me in the sense of

409
00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 1: he's a he's a napper and can basically put himself

410
00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 1: to sleep in the afternoon doing that, which is pretty crazy.

411
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,400
Speaker 1: And then I can't remember the fourth one, but they're

412
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 1: all in a similar type of thing. And I actually

413
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 1: remember that time you taught me the meditation where we

414
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,160
Speaker 1: did the guided meditation in my front yard and then

415
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,400
Speaker 1: I just passed out. I don't know if you even

416
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,119
Speaker 1: remember that you had a guided meditation. I didn't teach

417
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,880
Speaker 1: you anything. It was a guided meditation that we listened to. Well,

418
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 1: you taught me. I never tried it before, But to

419
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 1: people listening, I thought meditation. I'm not even fucking talking,

420
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 1: and I don't think you can tell me to shout

421
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 1: up at this point, buddy, Well, I think, uh, the

422
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 1: meditation was a thing that Chelsea turned me onto that

423
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,919
Speaker 1: felt too woo woo for me. I Um, I have

424
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 1: a real tricky time, like I hate like yoga class,

425
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 1: I like stretching, but anything that feels to woo woo,

426
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 1: that's what I thought the meditation was. But Chelsea's actually

427
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,679
Speaker 1: taken me through two guided meditations and I fell asleep

428
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 1: both times. And I'm not a napper, So that that

429
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: shows to me that, uh, it's probably something worth exploring. Yeah. Well,

430
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 1: and I mean when you're focusing on your breath, you know,

431
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: some people say that meditation is really just focusing on

432
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 1: yourself and focusing on your breath. So in a way,

433
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 1: like you're doing your own form of meditation where you're

434
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 1: doing this box breathing or these you know, these other

435
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: types of breathing techniques. The breathing stuff actually works better

436
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 1: for me than just trying to meditate, because it could

437
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 1: just be me, but I doubt it. It's really hard

438
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 1: to just be told clear your mind for ten or

439
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 1: twenty minutes, because all I do is just think about

440
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 1: all the ship that's been bothering me. So I think

441
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: the breathing stuff is good for me in the sense

442
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 1: that I don't go blank minded. I'm counting the whole time,

443
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 1: so my mind can't wander. Yeah, it gives you something

444
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,959
Speaker 1: to focus on. Yeah, I bet you. With all your

445
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 1: breathing though, now you would be able to meditate more

446
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 1: easily because the meditation is just focusing on your breathing,

447
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 1: because it is a meditative thing anyway. So are you

448
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 1: ready to give some advice to callers? People call in

449
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: ask for real life advice, and then we have to

450
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 1: give them good advice. This feels like the blind leading

451
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,160
Speaker 1: the blind. Well, we're gonna take a quick break and

452
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: we will be right back to answer some questions and

453
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: we're back fantastic. Well, you know what, We're gonna do

454
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: things a little bit differently today because this is training

455
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 1: focused and health focused. We've got a lot of sort

456
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: of like quick little bite questions. So are you going

457
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: to be able to answer a questions to sent way

458
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: or are you going to ramble on and on and

459
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 1: on on? All right, let's hear the questions. We have

460
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 1: something to ramble on a little bit later. We have

461
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 1: some really good callers calling in, but we'll just start

462
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: with some little quickies. So our first question is resistance

463
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: training using one's own body for weight training a k A.

464
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,199
Speaker 1: Plank pull ups, push ups, etcetera. Just as efficient and

465
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 1: beneficial as lifting weights. Joe. Joe, Yes to a point.

466
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 1: I think in the beginning it's great, but I think

467
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: as you acclimate to your own body weight, it's really

468
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: good to add a little bit more resistance. And we

469
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: we follow a tendant in training. It's called progressive overload,

470
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 1: basically meaning like you want to gradually make things harder.

471
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: So unless you just kept adding body weight, which I

472
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 1: don't think many people want to do, you're going to

473
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:14,479
Speaker 1: run out of ways to progressively overload. Got it? I agree?

474
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: Chelsea concurs. Hi, Chelsea and Ben. My name is Abby.

475
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 1: I followed that on Instagram, and I'm curious if he's

476
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 1: still single. I wanted some he's got to live in girlfriend?

477
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 1: That was quick? Sorry, Abby, I wanted some advice on

478
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: how to get motivated for the gym. I used to

479
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: go every day in between shifts at work. I now

480
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: find myself struggling for motivation to go even once a week. Chelsea,

481
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: You're in insane shape, so maybe you could chime in

482
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 1: on this too. PS. I'm twenties six years old, Abbey

483
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 1: bed Why don't you take the lead on this one.

484
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 1: I don't know the question in that it sounds like

485
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: she was just explaining her situation. Yeah, I think the

486
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: question is how to get motivated for the gym. To me,

487
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 1: something that is interesting to note is that like she

488
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 1: was maybe doing like a shift at are going to

489
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: the gym and then doing another shift at work, which

490
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: like you can do when you're like but she may

491
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 1: have just been sort of overworking herself in general. Yeah,

492
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like that my motivation is looking good,

493
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: so I just feel more like mentally normal and clearheaded

494
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: when I am feeling good and looking good, and I

495
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: like to be strong. I was on vacation for two

496
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 1: weeks recently, and I didn't work out for two weeks,

497
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: and that was probably the first time in like two

498
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: weeks I've never worked out first time in two weeks,

499
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 1: the first time that I didn't work out for the

500
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: duration of two weeks, you know, like I'll always work

501
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: out so and shut the funk up, just trying to

502
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: help the people that made no and I didn't like

503
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: it because my ass melted. And then I got back

504
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: and I worked out for like a week. I did

505
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: pilates for a week. But like, as soon as you

506
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: start working out and seeing the results, I think that's

507
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 1: really it. Once you start to see the results, it

508
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: becomes kind of addicting. I will say, personally, I'm not

509
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: the type of trainer that just lives to work out.

510
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 1: I'm not somebody that works out every day. I usually

511
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: strength train three days a week, and then on other

512
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 1: days I try. I try to be active every day,

513
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: but I get sick of my own workouts. I've I've

514
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: been I've been training people for fifteen years, and I'm

515
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: just kind of you know, I spend my whole day

516
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,479
Speaker 1: in the gym. So what I do when I'm not

517
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: feeling motivated, because I definitely have weeks where I won't

518
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: do the weights, is I just make appointments with friends

519
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 1: to hold myself accountable. You know, a lot of a

520
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 1: lot of my clients probably a big part of it.

521
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: It's just built in accountability. But if you don't have

522
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: a trainer, you can create that same accountability by just

523
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: making appointments with friends. There's a lot of times that

524
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: I'll make an appointment on a Monday with my buddies

525
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: for Tuesday, and I think to myself as they're driving over, man,

526
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: if they if they cancel, like I'm skipping. So it's

527
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,479
Speaker 1: like it's a really good way I think for me

528
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 1: to to stick to it. That's great. Next question, My

529
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 1: question for Bruno is why don't you like burpes? I

530
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: hate them. To Wendy Man, I don't even know why

531
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 1: this is controversial. When I say I don't like burpies,

532
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 1: all these like really jacked CrossFit guys get mad at me.

533
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: But I'm not talking about for them. They can do

534
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 1: whatever they want, but a lot of just normal people

535
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: that don't live to work out think that that's the

536
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 1: way that they're gonna lose weight. But burpies are actually

537
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: I call them advanced exercise masquerading as a beginner exercise.

538
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: It's actually pretty hard to do correctly and requires a

539
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,719
Speaker 1: lot of mobility. So if you just passed a normal

540
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: workout class. I would call myself captain obvious if you

541
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 1: went past a normal class. Almost everyone's that does burpies

542
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: sucks at them like jack. Guys are the ones that

543
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: fight me on it, but they don't even do them.

544
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: It's always like beginners, and it requires a lot of

545
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: mobility and a lot of people hurt their back, risks, knees,

546
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: etcetera doing that, etcetera. Uh, and could easily just get

547
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 1: their heart rate up through safer means. Yeah, it seems

548
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: like something that is very easy to do with poor form,

549
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: which can lead to getting hurt. So I just a

550
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: simple way. I just say break it down into its

551
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: two constituent parts and do push ups and squads separate

552
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 1: but don't combine. I was had a trainer. I think

553
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: this was I used Chloe Kardashians trainer for a short

554
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: period of time, probably before I met you, Ben, and

555
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: I remember in the middle I remember, I remember we

556
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 1: broke up a couple of times. No, we didn't, we didn't. Anyway,

557
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: I think he made me do a burbie. If I'm

558
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 1: thinking correctly about what burpies are, which is when you

559
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 1: run up and down the floor right like jump off

560
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: like do like a belly flop. Yeah, And I as

561
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: soon as I saw that, I was like, I can't

562
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: do that. Not because I don't think the burpies work,

563
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: It's just because they're too hard. It's too annoying to

564
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: jump up and down like that. I'm not into jumping period. Well,

565
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: our next question is make sure we asked Ben some

566
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: real life questions to not just fitness. We shouldn't let

567
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: him get off easy today. Okay, Well we'll have a

568
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: couple more quickies and then we'll get to some serious stuff. Okay, great,

569
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: I'm like twelve. I always laugh when I hear quickie.

570
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: Oh God, that's what I'm dealing with everybody like a

571
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: fucking eighth grader. Well, that fits right in with our

572
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: next question, because our next question is I always have

573
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: pain in my hips when I have sex and missionary position.

574
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm in the gym four times a week, and I

575
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: have done a lot of hip mobility work on my

576
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: hip flexers, but it hasn't fixed the problem. Any suggestions

577
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: on specific exercises or stretches I could try. I like

578
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: it from behind, so it's not the end of the world.

579
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: But variation is the spice of Life. Thanks Jess. That's

580
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: I'm glad you covered that, Jess, because Ben was going

581
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: to say, take it from behind. That's exactly what you

582
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: were going to say. I was thinking it, I wasn't

583
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: gonna say it. I would say, First off, I'm curious,

584
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: like what exactly she means when she says missionary, because

585
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: I don't know how your hips could hurt, just like

586
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: lying flat. But I think if if her legs are up,

587
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: you know, around whatever, I would say that she probably

588
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: could be doing some Yeah. I mean, now, sorry, I'm

589
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 1: just visualizing your legs and then your hips are in. Off,

590
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: you don't just lie there like a stick figure. Some do.

591
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: But there's you know, there's some there's some clarifications I need.

592
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: But in general, I would tell her to do the

593
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: pigeon stretch. That would be a good one. And yeah,

594
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: and then if she wants to google or YouTube or

595
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,719
Speaker 1: whatever Stationary spider Man's that's a really good bang for

596
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: your book, Mobility Drill. I don't hate that joke. I

597
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: don't hate that my best I can't even say anything

598
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: right now, Chelsea. We have a quick call from a

599
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: friend of yours. Rosanna is calling perfect. She had a

600
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: question for you, says My question for Ben would be

601
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: how to make my calves smaller? They are enormous. Thanks Rosanna,

602
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: that is a really tricky one. She already asked me,

603
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: and I gave her what my feedback, which was, well,

604
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: I'll wait for your feedback. Oh my god, look who

605
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: it is is, Hi Hi. Oh my god, what a valiant.

606
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: I love it. I'm in my pink palace. Rosanna is

607
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: one of my friends who I just went to Vancouver

608
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: Island with. I told them earlier about falling asleep, or

609
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: maybe it was in another episode about falling asleep at

610
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: three in the afternoon and then waking up at three am. Rosanna.

611
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: We had a great time. Chuck spent a lot of

612
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: the week sleeping and we watched Your Sleep. I brought

613
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: her what she needed in between getting drunk in the

614
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: hotel bar. It was a good week. Yeah, we didn't

615
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: make it very far, but Rosanna made various reservations all

616
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: throughout town every night, like six or seven different places

617
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: for lunch and dinner, and then we would just cancel

618
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: all of them and activities too. We also canceled a

619
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: lot of activities, but we didn't need him Okay, so

620
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: this is Ben Bruno, this is my trend, or you're

621
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: finally needed Rosanna tell him about your situation. I have

622
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: a situation. I have the opposite situation that most people have.

623
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: I don't need to build up my calves. I need

624
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: to reduce my calves. Their massive. They are not calves,

625
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: They're full grown cows. So I just would like to

626
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: be able to fit into boots. You really are you

627
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: also recently lost weight? Right? How much weight have you lost?

628
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: I'm not really quite sure, but I've definitely I've definitely

629
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: lost them weight, and I've been heavier, I've been smaller,

630
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: but no matter what, my calves are still so muscular.

631
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: My legs in general are muscular, but my calves especially,

632
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: I mean, Chelsea can tell you. We were in Victoria's.

633
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: She was like, damn girl, those are sound cats. So

634
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's something I can do to

635
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: lean them out. Wait, let me ask him one question.

636
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: Did you notice that they reduced in size when you

637
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: lost weight a little bit? Yeah, for sure, that's really

638
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: the best thing you can do. Unfortunately, for both people

639
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: that have small calves and big calves, calves are just

640
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: some people have big calves genetically, some have teeny ones

641
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: and more so than almost any other muscle. It's hard

642
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: to change that. But I would say losing weight all

643
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: over will definitely help you lose girth in your calves,

644
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: but also doing things like calphrases to get them to

645
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: shrink won't have that effect. So I would say, like,

646
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: don't do anything other than you know, maybe lose weight,

647
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: and also just know that it's one of those grass

648
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: is Greener things. You probably think. It's way more negative

649
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: than most people. I get far more questions about how

650
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: to grow calves and like, like me, for example, I

651
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: have teeny calves, to the point that if I ever

652
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: share a video of myself doing pull ups on YouTube,

653
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: the trolls tell me I'm cheating because my calves are

654
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: so small that I have nothing to pull up. So

655
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: just no rosetta there is. Yeah, it's just I bet

656
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: I bet people just yeah right, Well, she used the

657
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: calves the cows. That's cheesy Jim humor too, so we're

658
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: even up. No calves the cows is the title of

659
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: every like cheesy internet calf article like how to turn

660
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: your calvestack cows. So but yeah, I would say, first off,

661
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: congrats on losing the weight, But I would say as

662
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 1: you do that more in your body acclimates and stuff,

663
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: they'll probably come down a little bit. Okay, So I

664
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: mean I take classes and stuff, and sometimes when they'll

665
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: do the calfhrases and calf exercise, just set that one

666
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: out and do the yoga shivasana and just lay there

667
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: while they do the cal phrases. What about Pilate's like, well,

668
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: that helped lengthen them out. No. So, actually that's a

669
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: tricky one for me to broach because a lot of

670
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: women that do pilates tell me that they want to

671
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 1: get long and lean. It's actually impossible. Your muscles insertion

672
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: points are set so you actually can't lengthen a muscle.

673
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: When when when women say that, I just kind of

674
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: nod because I know what they mean. But that's actually

675
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: not happening. You can't lengthen a muscle. It's it is

676
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: what it is, your anatomy. But I think you can

677
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: tone the muscle and stuff like that. But I think

678
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: a lot of what you're talking about will is just

679
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: more about like weight loss and fat loss. Got it.

680
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: But I do think pilates does help you be more

681
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: conscientious of your posture and your alignment. So just by

682
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 1: nature of doing it, you stand up a little bit

683
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: taller and your posture is a little bit better, and

684
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: that always makes everything also look better. Yeah, I actually

685
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: love pilates. I didn't mean that to say I don't

686
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: like pilates. I love it. I do it myself sometimes.

687
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: But I think that it's a misnomer to say that

688
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: you're lengthening things. But I do think that you're there's

689
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 1: a ton of benefits to it. Okay, so my calves

690
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: are what they are, more or less unfortunately. Okay, I

691
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: want you to take that into the weekend, Rosanna, exactly energy.

692
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: You can take that big calf energy into the weekend.

693
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: It was very nice meeting, like it's your last. It

694
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: was nice to meet you too. Thanks for calling Rosanna

695
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: your problem. I'll talk to you later. Chuck, that was funny.

696
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 1: She's cute. They all call me Chuck. I love that.

697
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: It's very I don't know, actually just a mystery. While

698
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: this is a very interesting gym and relationship related question,

699
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: it's a little long. I cut it down to about

700
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 1: a third of its original linkage. She's a writer by trade,

701
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: but just be prepared Dear Chelsea. I'm a twenty six

702
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: year old grad student in a relationship with my partner,

703
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 1: we'll call him Dan, who's thirty one. We've been together

704
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: for five years now, and it's been the most stable

705
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: and loving relationship I've ever had. I've always been very

706
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: skeptical of marriage, but in this relationship, I'm open to

707
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: the idea, and we've been recently talking about getting engaged.

708
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: Then something happened that has me questioning everything. Within the

709
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: last few months, Dan has started a fitness journey cringe.

710
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: I also hate that Word has been going to the

711
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: gym with a personal trainer. It's all he talks about anymore,

712
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: and I've often found him standing in the mirror flexing

713
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: his arm muggles, which kind of makes me want to hurl.

714
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: But I know he has had some insecurities about his

715
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: appearance in the past, and I'm proud of him and

716
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: the work he's been doing to feel good about himself

717
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: and his body. When he started getting very into his

718
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: gym life, I noticed that our intimacy was decreasing. There

719
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: was an obvious shift. When I would bring it up,

720
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: he'd brush it off, saying he was tired and deny

721
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: my advances. One night, when I was met with this response,

722
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: I had had enough. When I asked him what was

723
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: going on, he paused, said he didn't want to hurt me,

724
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: and eventually told me, you've gained a lot of weight

725
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: in the last six months, and it's made me less interested.

726
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: I guess I was crushed. I'm a healthy weight and

727
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: I love my body. I work out five days a

728
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: week at home, walk often, and eat well. I know

729
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: I've gained a little weight, and I just accepted it

730
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: as part of becoming an adult. I'm aware that I

731
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: won't be the scrawny, hundred and ten pound girl he

732
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: five years ago, forever just a sex. By the way,

733
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: if this person is distancing himself from me due to

734
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: a few pounds of weight gain, are the foundations of

735
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: our relationships strong enough to handle the really hard things together.

736
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: I can't get the comment out of my head. I

737
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: went to stay with friends, and when I returned home,

738
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: my boyfriend apologized endlessly. However, it all just feels like

739
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: damage control. I fell in love with him because he

740
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: was a kind, thoughtful, smart and loving intellectual book nerd.

741
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: Now he's starting to feel like a conceited Jim rat.

742
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: Should I try to work through this incident or hit

743
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: the road. My love for him is not based on appearance,

744
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: but this comment is making me question if he can

745
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: love me the same way. Amy, Hi, Amy, Hi, how

746
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: are you? Hi? Ben Bruno is our guest today. Hi,

747
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 1: nice to meet you. That must have been an unpleasant

748
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: conversation to have. It was, it was. It shocked me

749
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 1: a little bit, but yeah, I decided to come back

750
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: home and work it out. But not much has really changed,

751
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: especially on his part. Still kind of obsessive with the

752
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: working out, a lot of damage control, like saying, you know,

753
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: I didn't mean what I said this and that, and

754
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, then why did you say it? And

755
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: it's just been really confusing. Did you leave for a

756
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: period of time? I did, Yeah, about a week, just

757
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: to like get my mind off of things and hang

758
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 1: out with some friends. But yeah, it's just been it's

759
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: been hard to wout my head around. Yeah, that's a

760
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: pretty dicky thing for him to have said to you.

761
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: And also like the whole obsessive working out, Like you

762
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: could forgive that, but those two things together now you're

763
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: piling on unattractive qualities. It's not a left field too.

764
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: This is not like him. So within like the past

765
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: two months, this obsession has started and has changed the

766
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: way like he treats me and how he feels about

767
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: himself as well. You know, we were at the beach

768
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: the other weekend and I saw these growy guys that

769
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: were like very muscular playing a game or whatever, and

770
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: he looked over at them and looked out at himself,

771
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: not really good about himself. So I'm trying to decide, like,

772
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 1: are you saying these comments because you don't feel good

773
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: about yourself? Or is this I don't know, it's it's

774
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: just been so confusing. Yeah, I mean I think it's

775
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: worth a longer conversation about it, where you sit down

776
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: and be like, listen, this is like a big red

777
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: flag to me, like, not only are you behaving in

778
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: a way that seems obsessive, now you're attacking me. These

779
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: are not qualities. I'm looking for to have a larger

780
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: conversation about that and what that sets up for any

781
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: future together. Right, you should call him out. What do

782
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: you think, ben Well? Has he gone from non worker

783
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: outer to like a full Jim Douche, like a full

784
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: transformation kind of thing. Yeah, it's kind of been like

785
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: I work out and stuff, but it's not all I

786
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: talked about, Like it's just like a part of your routine,

787
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: like being healthy, a part of your regime. Yes, regime, Yeah,

788
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: the full on gym culture. Does he do like the

789
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: weird eating habits and like this ship like that too?

790
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: Not really. Definitely has cut down on alcohol, which that's fine,

791
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: and definitely from working out at home to going to

792
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: a gym where he has like a personal trainer and

793
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: things like that. And maybe he's like looking at other

794
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: people's bodies that are super jocked. I don't know. I'm

795
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: just trying to figure out when this is coming from.

796
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: But it could be just like the new environment of

797
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 1: where he's working out. I don't know. Well, I think

798
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: a lot of workout dudes. It's hard for me to

799
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: say without knowing him, but a lot of workout dudes

800
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: have this. They call it body dysmorphia. But I think

801
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: about themselves, and then I think they put that on

802
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: to other people too. So I'll have trainer friends that

803
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: are big dudes, you know. As reference, I'm five nine,

804
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: about a hundred seventy pounds to some people, I'm big

805
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: to some people, I'm small, But there's a lot of

806
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: trainer dudes that are huge by all standards, and they

807
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: talk about how they're insecure because they lose eyes and stuff,

808
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:01,959
Speaker 1: and I look at them, like, what are you talking

809
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: about you? And then I think they also put I

810
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: don't know what the word would be, but they have

811
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: unrealistic expectations of what other people look like and things

812
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: like that. But I think if he's going like full Jim,

813
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to say douche, but douche,

814
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,919
Speaker 1: then I think he could be in that mindset where

815
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: And I think also a lot of dudes get a

816
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: superiority when they lift, you know. I remember when I

817
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: moved to l A and started training actors, a lot

818
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: of my Jim Rat friends would ask me what some

819
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 1: of these famous guys like benched and squat and stuff,

820
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 1: and when I would tell them the number, they would

821
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: be like pussy, like they were better than them. And

822
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, this dude has you beat in every facet

823
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: of life, and you're acting like you're better than him.

824
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: But Jim, people are really like that sometimes, and I

825
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: think that a lot of guys when they lift, get

826
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: an arrogance about that. But as it relates to you.

827
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's hard for me to say, but

828
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: I think it's like super shitty that he's putting you

829
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: in that spot. And I also wonder if he's expecting

830
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: you to do all that weird stuff too, which would

831
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: be dumb. I don't think you should. That's pressure should

832
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 1: be placed on you. I will say again, I'm a trainer.

833
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 1: I'm not somebody. I have very few trainer friends because

834
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 1: I'm not somebody that likes to work out every day.

835
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: If I have a buddy that tells me that, you know,

836
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: he does like chest on Monday back on Wednesday, I'm like, Okay,

837
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: we're probably never gonna be friends that type of thing.

838
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: But I think it's very healthy to work out in moderation.

839
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: But I think when you take it too far, it

840
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: can be unhealthy for your body and your mindset. You

841
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 1: definitely have to talk to him. And you said he's

842
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,720
Speaker 1: like flexing in the mirror. This might be like addition

843
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: by subtraction. If it doesn't end up working out, that's tricky. Great, Yeah,

844
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: it feels like this may be an opportunity to encourage

845
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: him to get into therapy. This doesn't even feel like

846
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: a couple of therapy situation, but like he needs to

847
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: examine why he is turning this self hate rid of

848
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: his own body and his own fat or whatever on you.

849
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: So this might be a time to encourage him to

850
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 1: be like why don't why don't you explore that with

851
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: somebody and what's coming up for you with that? M Yeah,

852
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: So he started going to therapy and then we did

853
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: have a longer conversation about this whole topic, and he

854
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: like blamed it on seeing unrealistic body expectations, like both

855
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: in the gym and on social media. And for me,

856
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: I'm like, as a female, like that should I deal

857
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: with every day? Like we all, so you'll put it

858
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: on me, like, this isn't my problem, you know, it's

859
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: his ship. I think that's a really really good point.

860
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 1: And first of all, even if you have gained a

861
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,720
Speaker 1: little bit of weight, like you're still a very slender person,

862
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: and even if you weren't, it wouldn't matter. It shouldn't

863
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: matter to him what you weigh. He's having some sort

864
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: of a physical mental reaction to whatever he's going through,

865
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: and that's that's something he's got to kind of unpack

866
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: on his own. Yeah, I guess My question knows do

867
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: I stick around for that and how do I move

868
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: forward with trust? I don't really trust you now, Like

869
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: I don't really feel like I even know you anymore,

870
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: Like you've changed in two months, like drastically, and not

871
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: even his body, just like his perginality and what he's

872
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: doing his actions. So yeah, I mean, if there's an

873
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: opportunity for you to go to therapy with him and

874
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 1: talk to his therapist with him, I would take that

875
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: opportunity really yeah, and just say like, this is what

876
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: I'm seeing. This is a different person than I, and

877
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: I'm concerned, Like it's a little bit fanatical, and it's

878
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: also having a negative impact on me. It's hard for

879
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: something to be happy for somebody to encourage them when

880
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: it's coming right back at you. He should be happy

881
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: about his body. What's he focused on you for. I

882
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: definitely think you have to press him a little more

883
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: on what he meant by what he said and things,

884
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: because I think it sounds like he backtracked. And I

885
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:57,240
Speaker 1: just know as a dude, sometimes if I say something

886
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: that doesn't get a good reaction, I just retreat and

887
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: then just go like, hey, I don't mean that, Like

888
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: all good. But whether there's smoke, there's fire. So I

889
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: think you have to really understand where he's coming from

890
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: and then you can evaluate if it's something you can

891
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: get past or not. But I think the retreat thing

892
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: would probably be because he saw that he piste you

893
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: off and hurt your feelings and doesn't want to keep

894
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,959
Speaker 1: that going. But the feelings are still there, so even

895
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: if you just sweep it under the rug, that's it's

896
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: going to come back if you don't really talk about

897
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: that a little bit more. Yeah, that's kind of like

898
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: where I met as how to move forward with us

899
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: and whether it's worth it or not. Um, how long

900
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 1: have you guys been together? Five years? So it's kind

901
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: of gone to the point where like things are getting

902
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 1: very serious and I've never been like a marriage person

903
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: or kids person, and like we've talked about these things,

904
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: but I've been more open about them. And then this

905
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: comment came up and it like really was triggering for me,

906
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: just like my past and everything. And so it's just, yeah,

907
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: trying to trying to figure out what to do next.

908
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: But I would agree that a deeper conversation and possibly

909
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: therapy together would be guid Yeah, you should give it.

910
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it's five years is a long time to

911
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: be with somebody, So give it the amount of attention

912
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 1: it deserves and the respect it requires. And if there's

913
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 1: not a change, then you know you have your answer

914
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 1: and you're going to move on right right, Okay, well,

915
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: thank you, all right? Well keep us supposed to a me. Okay, Well,

916
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: I will thank you so much. Ye see this is

917
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: serious ship ben yeh. Well, our next color is Alicia.

918
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: Alicia says, I'm fifty three and I'm in perimenopause. I've

919
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 1: begun reading some things about how women my age should

920
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 1: focus on strength training and do less high intensity interval

921
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: training or high impact cardio. When we talked on the phone,

922
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: she said, just kind of always been a cardio person.

923
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: If I can work out four days a week, what

924
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: would you suggest as a training schedule, he asked. My

925
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: current back to school routine is Monday, I do cardio strength,

926
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:10,439
Speaker 1: Wednesday triple met con all cardio but at different levels.

927
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 1: Saturday cardio strength where I'm mix in some weights. Sunday

928
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: strength all weights. Alicia. Hello, oh shitsky doodle, Hi Alicia, Hi, Alicia, Hi,

929
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 1: I have been Bruno my trainer here a perfect time

930
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: for your question. Yes, I was excited to see that

931
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 1: you're looking for questions. I'm at the age where I'm

932
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,240
Speaker 1: starting to read and learn about menopause, and I really

933
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: like to work out, and I've been reading and hearing

934
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: about that women my age should be focusing more on

935
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: strength training. And I grew up doing so much cardio

936
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: all the time. So what do I need to be

937
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: doing well? Question? You said that, but then when Catherine

938
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,439
Speaker 1: was reading your schedule, it sounded like you did three

939
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: days of strength training in one day at cardio. Monday's

940
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 1: and Saturday's are a mix of cardio and strength. Classify

941
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: that as a whole strength class. Well, what I'll say

942
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: I always recommend I tell women to think of strength

943
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: training as the entree and cardio is the side dish,

944
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: so they're both important. But if we had to allocate percentages,

945
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: I would probably say two thirds to three quarters strength training,

946
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: one third to one quarter cardio. But I don't think

947
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: that you have to have a strength day only cardio

948
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: day only. What will typically do is just incorporate a

949
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: little bit of cardio at the end of the strength workouts. Um,

950
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: it's just you know, some intervals and stuff. But I

951
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: would say for you, three full body strength workouts a

952
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 1: week is great, and then if you enjoy cardio on

953
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: top of that, do it. And also I do agree,

954
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: sounds like you answered your own question in the question,

955
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: but you were talking about trying to not do as

956
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: much high impact cardio. I do think that first off,

957
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 1: strength training, if you do full body strength training is cardio.

958
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 1: People that do body parts splits, not so much if

959
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: you do like a chest day or whatever. But if

960
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: you're pairing upper body and lower body exercises, you're gonna

961
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: get a cardio effect from that too. But I think

962
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: it's great to supplement the full body strength work with

963
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: some low impact interval training. And then also it's just

964
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: some low intensity training like going for a walk or

965
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: a hike or things like that. But I think that's

966
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 1: like a good long term strategy. And then also incorporating

967
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: mobility work in there too. Yes, that's that's built into

968
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,919
Speaker 1: a couple of the classes my training. The best part

969
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 1: of this whole COVID thing is I found this trainer.

970
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: Sounds like a good trainer. Yeah, so it sounds like

971
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: I'm kind of on the right road. Need to make

972
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: sure I get the strength in on on the weekend

973
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:55,919
Speaker 1: because she does that on the days I go to work,

974
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,439
Speaker 1: So all right, I will keep at that. Cool. Yeah,

975
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: don't over you the cardio. Yeah, it's hard though, I know,

976
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,439
Speaker 1: I know it feels like it's good, but it's better

977
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: to strength train. Yes, yeah, okay, okay. It's been so

978
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: fun to talk with you. Thank you so much for

979
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 1: taking my question. Thank you, nice to meet you. Bye bye.

980
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: All right, well, our next question comes from Kim. Kim

981
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: is forty nine. Dear Chelsea, I'm really struggling with my fitness.

982
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,919
Speaker 1: I started putting on tons of weight about ten years ago.

983
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: After a round of Whole thirty, I knew something was wrong,

984
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 1: and after several doctors, I was diagnosed with celias and

985
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: Hashimoto's thyroiditis. I went gluten free, obviously, and soy free,

986
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: another allergy I discovered and started to feel so much better.

987
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: Work relocated me to Florida. I'm a private teacher slash

988
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 1: family assistant, and it was great for the health part

989
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: because I would just ride my cruiser bike around the

990
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: horse farms for ten to twenty miles a day, taking

991
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: in the canal els in the sunsets. The weight seemed

992
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: to fall off. I move a lot with this job,

993
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: and my location and level of activity during work and

994
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: time spent outside seems to vary, as has my weight.

995
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: Now that you have my back story, I'd like to

996
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: ask for your help in mindset. I've always been one

997
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: to just do fun activities my whole life and not

998
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: think of it as exercise. I just recently signed up

999
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: for an adult tap class here in my current location,

1000
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: and I hiked at my last location. I'd love if

1001
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: you had tips to help me develop a traditional workout mindset,

1002
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: whether at home or going to the gym. Kim, oh, hey, Kim, Hi, Hi,

1003
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: I'm well, how are you good? Thank you. Ben Bruno's

1004
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: our guest today, so it's perfect timing for your question. Yes,

1005
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. He's our in studio health expert today. So

1006
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: is your question more related to the fitness side or

1007
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: the diet side. Well, I have the diet side pretty

1008
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 1: well nailed. I know how I have to eat to

1009
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: feel good, and that's you know what I do. But

1010
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 1: I just have a hard time getting in the mindset

1011
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: of like going to the gym and doing typical workouts.

1012
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: I like to be active. I ride my bike, I hike.

1013
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 1: I just started TAP lessons. I know, if I'm moving

1014
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: with my I have hashes and ciliac. So if I

1015
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: move like three or four hours a day, I'm great.

1016
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: But sometimes it's really hard, and I just feel like

1017
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: I need to somehow incorporate going to a gym and

1018
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: not looking at it as a torture chamber. Can you

1019
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: do it with a friend? Will that help you? To

1020
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: enlist a friend that you like. Go to a class

1021
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: two days a week, if it's a bar method or

1022
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: soul cycle anything. I mean, I guess I have a few.

1023
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: I just relocated to Nashville, so I know a couple

1024
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: of people. Well that's a good way to make friends,

1025
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: probably to actually yeah, so, and I've already become friendly

1026
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: with people in my TAP class, so you know, hopefully

1027
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 1: that'll progress. I have a partner who loves to bike ride.

1028
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: He does that schimish emmy. Writing not my thing, but

1029
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: you know, we do write a lot, so I'm lucky

1030
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 1: to do that. But I just don't know why I

1031
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: have such a It's like I have a wedge to

1032
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: prevent me from going to the gym. You just have

1033
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: to find some classes that you like in that are

1034
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: in the gym. You know what I mean, and just

1035
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: sign up for like two a week and commit to that.

1036
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: That's a great way to aid work out and make friends.

1037
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 1: And they could be strength training classes, you know what

1038
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: I mean. So you know you're going and you're not

1039
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: responsible for your own regiment. It's being provided for you,

1040
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: right m h. I sort of feel Kim, like you

1041
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: have the best of both worlds, you know. I think

1042
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: that's what everybody wants to get to, is like just

1043
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: doing something fun and it's exercise. By the way, It's

1044
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: like that old saying, find a job you love and

1045
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: you'll never work a day in your life. But I

1046
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: feel like the same applies here, you'll never work out

1047
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: a day in your life. Like I feel like you

1048
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: got it great, Like Chelsea said, joining a couple of

1049
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 1: extra classes. Maybe that's a strength training class or something

1050
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: like that. But I think you've got a good mindset.

1051
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: Oh well, thank you. Do you have anything to add, Ben,

1052
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: I actually hate to say this, but I really like

1053
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: what Chelsea had to say. But I would also add

1054
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: that they have a lot of workout programs that you

1055
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: can get that you can do at home. So if

1056
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: you just have an aversion to the gym. There are

1057
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: a lot of home workout programs, and I know a

1058
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: lot of female trainers do stuff where the workout program

1059
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: includes an online fitness community element like Facebook, book groups

1060
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: and whatnot. So if you struggle with accountability, some of

1061
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 1: those might be good. You do it and then you

1062
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: report back to the trainer and the group. That's not

1063
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: totally my thing, so I'm not I can't think of

1064
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: any off the top of my head, but I know

1065
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: they exist. I would also I want to plug my girlfriend.

1066
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: She is Celiac. She has a whole thing. She's on

1067
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: Instagram and has a blog called yeah at No Bread,

1068
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: Um at No Bread, and it's like a website and

1069
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: an Instagram handle that has she is an amazing cook,

1070
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 1: but it's all glue and free stuff. Yeah, you should

1071
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: follow her. She's got great recipes and great brands to

1072
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: buy all of that stuff. Absolutely, I'm always looking for

1073
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: new things. Yeah, but I would look at some of

1074
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: the online The female trainers that do online programming do

1075
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: a really great job of doing stuff to build a community.

1076
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: If you just hate going to the gym, you can

1077
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: check in with people online and whatnot. Yeah, I don't

1078
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 1: even know. I guess I don't have an adversion going

1079
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 1: to the gym. I just I guess maybe just to

1080
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 1: get started and just not look at it as, oh,

1081
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: let me go rund my bike. It's all fun, and

1082
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 1: you know, I know when I do go, I feel good,

1083
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: I have results. I just don't know what the mind blocking.

1084
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: You just have to find a class you like and

1085
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: then you're gonna be down with going. That's it. Just

1086
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 1: find a class you like and go and do the

1087
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: social aspect of it too. And if you don't like

1088
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: going to the gym but you like the working out,

1089
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: then do what you know and then get one of

1090
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: those I mean, they're on peloton, they're on tonal. There's

1091
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 1: all these types of things you can do at home.

1092
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: But I hear what you're saying, but you just have

1093
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: to like dive in and find the thing that you

1094
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: like to do, and then you'll want to go to

1095
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: the gym. One more thing, I want to add a

1096
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: lot of people when they embark on strength training for

1097
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 1: the first time, feel like they have to do this

1098
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: whole crazy program and work out an hour at a time,

1099
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: and it's totally fine. I would maybe start with like

1100
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: fift twenty minute workouts, and just dip your toe in,

1101
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: and I think as you get a little better at it,

1102
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: you might like it more too. Okay, starting small amounts,

1103
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: maybe that's my problem. I just feel like I have to. Well,

1104
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: strength training is a thing that if you just come

1105
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,959
Speaker 1: in guns and blazing and go too hard, you're gonna

1106
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: be sort of shipped. So I think, I sometimes think

1107
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: and that's very de motivating. So I think that if

1108
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: you start slowly and build progressively to kind of mitigate

1109
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: that soreness and get used to it, it will help

1110
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: you in the long term. Okay, great, thank you so much.

1111
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: I will try both the online and just moving to

1112
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 1: the gym and making it a social thing. Cool. Thanks

1113
00:57:54,960 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: for calling in. Thank you bye. And on note, I

1114
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: think I'm done talking about nutrition. Well let's take a

1115
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: break so we can be done talking about that and

1116
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: we'll be right back with Chelsea and Ben Bruno and

1117
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: we're back. Excellent. Well, Bennett, that's point in the show.

1118
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: We like to ask our guests if they would like

1119
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 1: to ask Chelsea for some advice, be not really to

1120
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: be honest with you. I mean, that's that's why I

1121
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: go to therapy, so I don't have to ask people

1122
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: at Chelsea for advice. Accept that. I feel like if

1123
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: I asked Chelsea for advice, I would end up like

1124
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: face down in a ditch somewhere. Then why hasn't that

1125
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: already happened? Because I don't take what you say like,

1126
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't really interesting, I don't pay attention. Yeah, interesting, Well,

1127
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: I think that means that Ben Bruno doesn't have any

1128
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: questions for me, And you know what, I'm totally down

1129
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: with that. I need the day off of answering questions.

1130
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: What questions would I have for Chelsea? Well, why don't

1131
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 1: you think I have a question? I do it. I

1132
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: knew if you were me, how would you deal with

1133
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: the client? Like you? Because I've struggled with this for

1134
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: seven eight years, however long we've trained every single day.

1135
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: I think like I don't know what to do in

1136
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: this situation. I'm well, fire me if you if I

1137
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: make you so, But like probably of the time you're pleasant, right,

1138
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: So that's either this is the bed you made and

1139
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: now you either have to lie in it, not lay

1140
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: in it. You have to lie in it or fire me.

1141
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 1: It's I mean, the ball is in your court. No,

1142
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: I of the time, So you're not going to fire

1143
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: the juice is worth the squeeze. No, I'm not okay,

1144
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: So then there we go. Then what do you How

1145
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 1: would you deal with me? I don't know what to

1146
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: tell you. I wouldn't know how to deal with me either.

1147
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: That that actually makes me feel good to hear. That

1148
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: makes me. This is been big. This is a cathartic

1149
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: podcast for me. It's been such a release bed. Where

1150
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 1: can everybody find you? At the Kitchen. That's the name

1151
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: of his gym at his house. It's called the kitchen

1152
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: and his address is exactly don't say the address. Do

1153
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: you have an it's you of Instagram, Ben Ben Bruno training,

1154
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 1: Ben Bruno train er in one of training Bruno training

1155
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 1: to research this really not really, that's the wrap up.

1156
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: We're done, Catherine, We're done here. Good night. So if

1157
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: you'd like advice from Chelsea, just send us an email

1158
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: at Dear Chelsea project at gmail dot com. Dear Chelsea

1159
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: is a production of I Heart Radio. Executive produced by

1160
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: Nick Stump, produced by Katherine Law, and edited and engineered

1161
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: by Brad Dickert.