1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Show us a more personal and human side to these 2 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: players and coaches. I watched the Super Bowl again with 3 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: their parents, Jack and Jackie for their first time. They 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: hadn't watched it since it was over five years ago. 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: You want to know what makes this guy tick? Man 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: of the crowd is going to give it to you. 7 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge once again. There's no Ryan make 8 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: in the lounge this week. You know, it's kind of 9 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: become the norm around here for Make not to be here. 10 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: I think he's going on the world record for the 11 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: world's August vacation. Um. But we press onward, and today 12 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: we have Sarah Ellison back from maternity leave. Are you 13 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: sure Minx not on aternity leave himself? That's true? I mean, 14 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: I mean I got to get three months? Is he? 15 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: Is he getting close to that? I think he's rivaling 16 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: your maternity at this point. Is neck and neck. Um. 17 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: So he should be back next week. We'll see if 18 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: that is the case, if he ends up making his 19 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: way back from Europe or not, you might just end 20 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: up stand there. Um. But that said, Sarah Elson is 21 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: filling in back from maternity leave this week. We want 22 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: to talk Ravens training camp preview and also talk about 23 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: a new podcast that is coming out that Sarah is behind. Yeah, um, 24 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: and so we're gonna jump into that discussion and I 25 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: think that a lot of people are going to be 26 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: excited about that. It's um, it's another Ravens podcast, but 27 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: it's a totally different flavor than what we do here 28 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: in the lounge, totally different. Not trying to compete with 29 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: you guys, Well, there's always competition and trying to compliment you. 30 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: Competition is good. Competition brings up thank you, Competition brings 31 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: out the best crush you guys. Trying to take it easy. 32 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: And by the way, if you guys hear a driving 33 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: rainstorm or thunder in the background, that's because we are 34 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: doing this and it is an absolute downpour going on 35 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: outside right now, down for um. And so there's been 36 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: some thunder that you may hear in the middle of 37 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: this podcast. Can I just point out it is freezing 38 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: in here. It is. I literally have a blanket on 39 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: me and I pull it up over my head if 40 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: it didn't mess with my mic. Yeah, we keep the 41 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: lounge at about sixty one degrees and years it's no 42 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: matter what time of year it isn't here it's ice 43 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 1: cold in this room. UM. So, as always, if you 44 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: guys have emails, we don't have a great email to 45 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: read this week's there. I was hoping that there would 46 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: be an email that you could join in with me 47 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: on and read, but no email. But we want some 48 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: good emails so you can send us questions that you 49 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: have comments, things you want to hear from us at 50 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. Um, we 51 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: always love those emails, but kind of lacking the spee 52 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: dead periods a dead period. So but that's gonna end 53 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: because training camp is going to get started next week 54 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: kind of unofficially this week. Rookies have already reported here 55 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: into the building. Um, and then all the vets are 56 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: going to be here next week and they're gonna hit 57 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: the practice field. So this thing is we're it's about 58 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: to get exciting. Yeah yeah, So, like, what for you 59 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: when you look at this team. I know, obviously you 60 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: haven't been here, but you've been watching, you know, and 61 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: paying attention while you've been on in maternity leaves, So like, 62 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: what is your biggest question? Sort of almost from an 63 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: outsider's perspective of not being in the building here over 64 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: the past three months. Yeah, well, just to to point 65 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: out there, while I haven't been in the building, I've 66 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: been tweeting. I tweeted from my hospital bed. Okay, I'm 67 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: committed to Ravens football, so I'm certainly uh not out 68 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: of the loop. My biggest question, um, I'm really curious 69 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: about who's going to start opposite of Trail sucks. I 70 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: know there's leaders um and even if it's not just 71 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: this year, even beyond, like the Ravens have drafted and 72 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: brought in some young players for some new outside outside 73 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: linebacker blood and I'm just excited to see these guys hit. 74 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: I didn't see the off season practices like you, and 75 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: I don't know that I missed too much because they 76 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: weren't hitting, so it's really hard to see. But I 77 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: really want to get a look at Tius Tias Bowser, 78 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: I want to look at Tim Williams. I want to 79 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: see how Matt Judon has progressed all of that. So 80 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: that's one of my biggest questions because I felt like 81 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: the Ravens lacked in the sack department last year and 82 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: they really went to address that. And I want to 83 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: see which one of these young guys is going to 84 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: step up. It's funny you mentioned that. I mean I 85 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: did a final drive on Monday about Tim Williams because 86 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: he's one of the guys that I'm really interested to see. 87 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: How does he look, you know, physically, he has all 88 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: the tools. You know, everyone kind of knows his story. 89 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: A lot of people thought he would be potentially first 90 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: round pick, ended up falling to the third round because 91 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: of small field stuff and the Ravens get him. But yeah, 92 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see him. I think that he is 93 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: like kind of the perfect model of a situational pass 94 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: rusher who can be really effective. Like I think he 95 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: could be a guy that has you know, maybe he 96 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: gets like eight sacks. You know, that'd be on like 97 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: the high end. But at Parnell McFee type player. Um 98 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: that from Parnell's rookie season. Who comes in there? Matt 99 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,799 Speaker 1: Judon last year, you know, he was a very effective player. 100 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: So who's going to start though? That's a good question, Like, 101 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that's one of the battles 102 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: that there hasn't been a ton of chatter about. Because 103 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: we talked about the offensive line so much. That position 104 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: is obviously a huge position, and I think that's that's 105 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: one to watch and training. It's always the positions that 106 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: have more obvious holes, whereas now there's less. Um I'd 107 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: say there's less concern about outside linebacker just because there's 108 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: so many to choose from. But that doesn't mean that 109 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: there's an answer yet, you know what I'm saying. So 110 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: uh so, yeah, that's my that's one of my biggest questions. 111 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: What about you? Um, I look at the offense still 112 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: and I think of how is this offense going to 113 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:40,119 Speaker 1: be improved? So like that is I think the defense 114 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: is gonna be good. They were seventh last year. Um, 115 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: they were really solid until really like the fourth quarters 116 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: of some games, like they were a great defense. Yeah, 117 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: I think the defense is going to be I would 118 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: say a top five group. That's my expectation with top 119 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: five units. So just by the means of that alone, 120 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: you should win a lot of games. Now, you gotta 121 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: score points, So my question is where the point's going 122 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: to come from. I think the maclin thing is huge. 123 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: It had to happen. I agree with that. Yeah, now 124 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: you have somebody that totally compliments Pairman and Wallace. Also, 125 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: you look at the receiving Corps now and you're like, 126 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: it's pretty good. I kind of like, but the Ravens, Yeah, um, 127 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: when Macklin compliments them in the in the way that 128 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: you know a lot of people think of him as 129 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: as a deep threat also, but he can run every 130 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: route on the tree, every route. He is probably the 131 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: most complete receiver that you picked up in June. Yeah, right, 132 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: let's think you get these. It's so funny because every year, 133 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: like Ozzie says, I'm gonna be patient, I'm gonna wait, 134 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna see what happens, and you when you hear that, 135 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: you can also kind of hear the audible grumbles coming 136 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: from fans who were like, we're gonna wait, like no 137 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: one's going to be available, and you know, the free 138 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: agency market gets picked over pretty quickly. But then all 139 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: of a sudden you have Macklin, who, if you stack 140 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: him up his resume against the players that went in 141 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: the first couple of days from he stacks up with 142 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: all of them. Slutly. Is this receiving corps overall better 143 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: than last year's because, like you said, Macklin is a 144 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: huge addition, and I don't think you can underestimate how 145 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: much Danny Woodhead. You talked about the run game, but 146 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: he's going to affect the passing game for huge a million, 147 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: like he could legitimately lead the Ravens and receptions um 148 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: out of the backfield. So, but you've lost Steve Smith, 149 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: and you've lost Dennis Pitta, You've lost Kamara Aiken, and 150 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: so you like these signings. But the question is is 151 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: did they just bring him back to where they were 152 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: last year to replace them or are they better? And 153 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: to me, the jury is still out on that. I 154 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: don't know that the new signings are better than what 155 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: was on the team last year? Are they? You know 156 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. They're all great signings and they needed 157 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: to happen, um. But you don't just want to hit 158 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: satus quo. You need to score more points, you know what. 159 00:07:58,600 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: I think it comes down to, like when de Bay 160 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: is these weapons this year better than last year. But 161 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: I think it comes down to is Briscoe pairman. He's 162 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: not a new signing, but where he is in his 163 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: development could be night and day this year compared to 164 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: where it was last year. Last year he missed he 165 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: obviously missed his rookie season. Then he missed his higher 166 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: off season program because he was hurt. So then he 167 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: comes back in the middle of training camp and it 168 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: takes him a while to kind of get to get going. Um, 169 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: I think that. I mean, he didn't even play a 170 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: game until I think the first game of the screw 171 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: was the fourth preseason game last year. That was the 172 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: first time he suited up in a game. So then 173 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: he plays the entire season and he thought, you know, 174 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: his rookie his his second season. Really his rookie season 175 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: was okay, not great for a first round pick, but 176 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: you got to consider everything that he had to go 177 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: through to get to that point. So for me, I 178 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: mean he I've said it many times, he may have 179 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: been might have been the best player on the field 180 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: during the entire off season program. And if he plays 181 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: like he did in April, May and June, if he 182 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: plays like that in September and October and November, then 183 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, this passing game is gonna have 184 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: a whole another dimensioned that it didn't have from the 185 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: last couple of years. Yeah, that's interesting because I've seen 186 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of people say that Jeremy Macklin 187 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: is the X factor in this offense, and I almost 188 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: agree with you with the way you're describing it. It 189 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: sounds like, even though he's not new Brishade, peramans the 190 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: X factor because you're saying mcman replaces Steve Smith, Benjamin 191 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: Watson replaces uh, Dennis Pitta Um, Danny Woodhead is kind 192 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,239 Speaker 1: of different, but maybe maybe with Um. I think Woodhead 193 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: Macklin kind of together replaced Steven Pitta. I think so 194 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: pitta Head eighty six catches last year. You know a 195 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: bunch of those are gonna go to Danny Woodhead. You know, 196 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: some of those are gonna go to Watson. Some of 197 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: those are gonna go to Nick Boyle. So they have 198 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: the replace the person for person, They have the replacements. 199 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: So that that's what Matt matches it up to last year. 200 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: That's what you're saying is Parraman is the X factor 201 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: because he's the one person that can come has the 202 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: potential to exploit. Yes, like all of a sudden and 203 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if it happens, we'll see, but also 204 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: like Perriman could be one of those guys that, like 205 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: Week four comes around and everybody's trying to get on 206 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: their fantasy team because he's just blowing up. And he's 207 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: he's got four touchdowns in the first three games, and 208 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: and and he has a yard receiving season, Like those 209 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: things could happen. Like that's not by any means outside 210 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: the realm of possibility. Um, So, like if he really 211 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: puts it together, now, I think that you go into 212 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: the season, I would think that it's probably Wallace and 213 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: MacLean as your as your two starting receivers to open 214 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: the year. But that's not to say Perry is gonna 215 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: be on the field a lot and he's gonna get 216 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: plenty of action. I think he finally feels comfortable with Joe. 217 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: I think Joe finally feels comfortable with him. The off 218 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: season practices made a huge difference for them. So like, yeah, 219 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: I think he could explode. Now does it happen, We'll 220 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: wait and see. And the other thing too, when you 221 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: talk about the X factor and what's different from this 222 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: year to last year. I know a player who's not new, 223 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: but he's coming in from a much better place this year. 224 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: Is Joe Flacco. I mean, like last year he hadn't 225 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: even practiced yet, he wasn't even he wasn't even playing. 226 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 1: I think listen, Joe Flacco's personality. He is never, ever, ever, ever, ever, 227 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: ever gonna use his knee as an excuse. And that's 228 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: what you want at your starting quarterback. You want him 229 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: to be that way. So all year last year, Hey Joe, 230 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: how is then affecting you? Oh? I don't even think 231 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: about it. It's not a big deal. It's not affecting me. YadA, YadA, YadA. 232 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure there's truth to that, but I'm 233 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: not buying all of it. I wasn't buying all of it. 234 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 1: I just don't see how that could be the case 235 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: where you have this massive knee injury and it wasn't 236 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: just the A, C L. Other other ligaments got messed 237 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: up in there too. You're coming back, um, I mean 238 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: he came out quick, he got back for training camp. 239 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: But how do you not How is it not in 240 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: the back of your mind you've got this, You had 241 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: this rook left tackle and Ronnie Stanley. I mean, it's 242 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: got to be there. And I do think that that 243 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 1: probably messed with his timing. I know there were a 244 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: lot of Monday morning quarterbacks saying that his footwork was 245 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: off for he was, you know, throwing earlier whatnot. So 246 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: I do put some stock into that kind of stuff. 247 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: And I think a year removed, another year removed from 248 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: his knee, I think will make him a better quarterback. Well, yeah, 249 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: you can look at the statue last year and look 250 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: at his first half compared to a second half of 251 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: the season first eight games, last eight games, and he 252 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: was much better though finally games of the season. And 253 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: I don't think that that's any coincidence. I think that 254 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: the knee, you know, it takes time, and and to 255 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: your point, he's never going to come out and say that, 256 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean it's not affecting him. And I 257 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 1: think that there's a difference between is it is it 258 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: bothering you? Like maybe it's not bothering you, but maybe 259 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: you you just don't feel right, you know, you make 260 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: a throw and all of a sudden, like man, I 261 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: thought I would have a little bit more on that one, 262 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: and my time, he feels a little bit off, or 263 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: maybe I'm a little bit more hesitant to tucking around 264 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: like so I think he's going to be significantly better, 265 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: and then that is going to help every area of 266 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: the offense. And then you go back to the thing 267 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: with Perriman now they feel like they're on the same page. Wallace, 268 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: now he was last year. He's new and it didn't 269 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: take him long to get acclimated, and well it didn't. 270 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: But then also Steve Smith, if I remember correctly, was 271 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: coming off his acheling. He didn't he didn't suit up 272 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: at all in the preseason. He didn't set up until 273 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: late training camp, right, So it wasn't only Joe, yeah, 274 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: but it was his receivers. They were either coming off 275 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: injuries or coming from other teams. Now, Macklin, you're gonna 276 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: have to deal with some of that too, but at 277 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: least with Perriman and um Wallace, you have that chemistry 278 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: already built in and you're going to have you're going 279 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: to have all of training camp with Joe being healthy 280 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: to work through those things. So, um, you know, obviously 281 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: there's questions to answer, but I mean, I can't wait. 282 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: You know, the guys are going to be back on 283 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: the field, you know, a week from today for the 284 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: first practice. It's exciting to even think about to see him, 285 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: to see him all out there, to see him hitting 286 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: and getting back to it. And I would say compared 287 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: to last year, because we were we were working on 288 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: the content plan already this this week, and uh, we're 289 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: gonna do a quick recap um uh for all the 290 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: injured players that are coming back. And I compared that 291 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: to last year, night and day. There's some injuries. There's 292 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: some injuries. There's Yonda, who I really don't worry about. 293 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: You know, he was a pro bowler when he's playing 294 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: out of position when his shoulder was so I was 295 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: going to go back to his natural position and he 296 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: has surgery to repair the shoulder. I do think. I 297 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: do think like Joan is going into I think it's 298 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: eleventh season. So every time, I'm like, I wonder how 299 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: long we'll be able to say Yan is just gonna 300 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: be One's just gonna be Yon, Like, I still think 301 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: he will be this year, but I get nervous, like 302 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: at some point you can't keep saying that forever. Right now, 303 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: I still think in the sweet spot, I'm still going 304 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: with it. I'm not worried about Yonda. In terms of 305 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: his injury, Um Mosley, I think is an interesting one. 306 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: Um he played through it a bit. Yeah, I mean 307 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: he played through last year. He didn't play in the 308 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: final game, but or he did, he got hurt in 309 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: the final game, so he put I think mostly will 310 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: be fine, dude, that he went to Alabama. Those guys 311 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: always like they'll play. Yeah, tough as nails. You know, 312 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: if you go out there and play, your arm could 313 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: fall off. All right, We'll just go ahead, put a 314 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: bunch of tape on it. I'll be good, like right. 315 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: And then the last one I would say that's is 316 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: big is Benjamin Watson. He already seemed though in the 317 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: off season program, ready to go, and he still has 318 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: training camp and the preseason to even get even better. 319 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: So those those are the three big ones. Again, comparing 320 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: it to the the last year, not even close. I mean, 321 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: he had flack of Steve Smith sugs, so so many guys, 322 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: and the list goes on and on. Pita, oh my 323 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: heck yeah. Um. Then you have some of the recurring 324 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: ones though, Campernaro, it's like the same story that was 325 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: as last season. Canny stay healthy. Um oh, Jimmy Smith, 326 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: he's healthy. He wasn't last season. So it feels like 327 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: the Ravens are in a much better position healthwise going 328 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: into this season, and you just cross your fingers and 329 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: knock on wood hoping that it'll stay that way. Um, 330 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: obviously we're excited about that. But the other thing I 331 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: want to ask you about is the podcast. Yes, so 332 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: you have a new podcast that you've spent a little 333 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: bit of time working on. It's quite a little bit, 334 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: you mean a year. That's that's a little bit of time. 335 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: It's called Man of the Crowd and it's going to 336 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: come out next Monday, So in a few days we're 337 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: gonna debut it. So can you give us a little 338 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: synopsis of what it is? Yeah? Yeah, so, uh, as 339 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: you know, Garrett, your your podcast started about a year ago, 340 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: and we we wanted to get into the podcast world, 341 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: and um, you and Ryan came up with yours. And 342 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: then the number one thing that we one of the 343 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: one of the big things anyway that fans ask us 344 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: is show us a more personal and human side to 345 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: these players and coaches, and um, to do that right? 346 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: To do that right? I mean it's easy to quickly, 347 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 1: you know, here's my thought in the game, here's who 348 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: I think is going to start. That doesn't take a 349 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: lot of time to do that, right. I felt like 350 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: I need to put it a lot of time into it. So, 351 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: um so so that's what I want to do. Who 352 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: is worthy of of of this deep in depth look 353 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: where I actually explored for nine episodes, and it's all 354 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: on John Harbaugh and his family. And um I chose 355 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: him because A he's the head coach and be not 356 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: only did he bring the franchise it's second super Bowl, 357 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: but he did it by beating his own brother, and 358 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: that is never going to happen again. To me. Having 359 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: seen those two coaches brothers facing out from the Super 360 00:17:55,000 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: Bowl is like lightning striking twice with the storm outside. 361 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: There might be could happen, could happen, but um so 362 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: I wanted to know if this is if this is 363 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 1: never gonna happen again. This is the only family who 364 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: can speak to it, to speak to what it was 365 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 1: like to be on this world stage, not even a 366 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: national stage, this world stage. You finally get your NFL dream, 367 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: you finally get to the super Bowl, and then you 368 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: got to do it against your brother. You gotta beat 369 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,479 Speaker 1: your brother. So I dive into that what it was 370 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: like with their family. Um I spoke to the entire family, 371 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: had interviews, I mean long, in depth interviews with all 372 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: of them. I watched the Super Bowl again with their parents, 373 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: Jack and Jackie for their first time. They hadn't watched 374 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: it since it was over five years ago. They watched 375 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: it with me and got emotional. I think fans are 376 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: really gonna like that. Um. And then I remember approaching 377 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: John Harbor on this, and you know how it is, 378 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 1: you go up to a coach or player like, hey, 379 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: can I do an interview? What's their first question about? What? 380 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 1: What's the second question? How long do you need? That's 381 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: actually yeah, um, And so I'm like, well, uh, it's 382 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: not your typical interview. It's probably going to be one 383 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 1: of fifteen minutes, but I'm trying not to tell him 384 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: it's going to be what I would like at least 385 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 1: thirty minutes. So we come in this studio that we're 386 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: sitting in. Now, we sit here, I go I couldn't 387 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: believe it. He let me get through my questions. We've 388 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: been in for about forty five minutes, and I'm like, coach, 389 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: thank you so much, thank you so much for all 390 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: this time. He's like, oh, I just He's like I 391 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: get it, Like I feel like this is gonna be good. 392 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: He goes, what else, Sarah, what are we missing? And 393 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I've I've got his buying like 394 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: he he likes this, you know, not joking. We went 395 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: for another hour. This is what fans are gonna get. 396 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: You're gonna get inside the head of your head, coach. 397 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: You want to know what makes this guy tick. Man 398 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: of the cry is going to give it to you. 399 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: I don't think there's anywhere that you're going to get 400 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: more about John Harbaugh and his entire family. And they 401 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,959 Speaker 1: can be controversial, and and I go through it all. 402 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: I go through controversy. I couldn't believe what John opened 403 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: up to me about about so many things, not only 404 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: about the super Bowl, but his first five years. He 405 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: had a battle with his players. I get into it 406 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: with about Jim. People often called Jim crazy. I asked 407 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: John about that, um and I'm telling you it was 408 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: in depth, it was emotional, and it was great. I 409 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: think you can tell I'm super excited about it. And 410 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: uh and I hope that fans will listen. Yeah, I've 411 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: been able to listen to the episodes that have been finished, 412 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: and it's it's really good. It's you know, it's one 413 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: of the rare it's a great piece of storytelling. But 414 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: it's more than that. It's a rare look into so 415 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: many people being as open as they were. You know, 416 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: you give a lot of people John Jim the family. 417 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: But then you sat down with Steve Shada, you sat 418 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: down with Ozi mus him Um, you talked with other 419 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 1: reporters in the business, Rich Eyes and Pete your King. 420 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: You know, just so many different people that know this 421 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 1: family from a lot of different angles. And I think 422 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: that's awesome because you have this perspective from players, from 423 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: other coaches, from people that have hired Jim and John, 424 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: so like you have this kind of full scope of 425 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: everything that goes on in their lives. I'm curious, like, 426 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: what was your favorite interview as you went through this 427 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 1: entire process, because you have so many and they're all along, 428 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: you know, they're all in, they're all open. Is there 429 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: one that kind of sticks out to you? There's there's 430 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: a couple. Um, I'll put the men that hired John 431 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: and Jim for their current jobs. So Steve Bushotti and 432 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: Jim hackett Um, both men are brilliant. I feel so 433 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: lucky to have been able to sit down with those 434 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: two guys. They both gave me about forty five minutes 435 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: to an hour and you're just listening to the Steve 436 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: Bushotti is a self made billionaire, and he's talking to 437 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: me about leadership and why John, why he likes John 438 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: as a leader, or how he's helped mold John into 439 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: a good leader. Um, he's brilliant and he's candid, so 440 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: I would say him. And then Jim Halkett if you 441 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: if you don't know, he was the interim athletic director 442 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: at Michigan who hired Jim Harbaugh. He's now he was 443 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: just recently named the CEO of Ford. Another brilliant guy. 444 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: And one theme that I had um for the episodes 445 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: when I get into the gym, and I do get 446 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: in the gym. I know he's not Ravens, but he 447 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: but his so his story is so critical to understanding 448 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: the super Bowl. So I do get into him. And 449 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: I've told you this before. One of the main things 450 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: I had was asking his family and friends of is 451 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,719 Speaker 1: he misunderstood it. It was great to hear from their 452 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 1: parents and all their perspectives, but Jim Hackett broke it 453 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 1: down so well, and he was and he's like and 454 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: he was, he's a nice guy, but he's like, I'm sorry, 455 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: but anybody that thinks that Jim is crazy, just doesn't 456 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: has never been a leader before. They don't know what 457 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: it takes to lead so many different people. He and 458 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: just talked about the leadership. So so we get into 459 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: whether Jim is crazy or misunderstood, and Jim is great. 460 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: And then outside of the two men that hired him, 461 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: I'd say Jack and Jackie their parents to sit down again. 462 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: I felt so lucky to have this opportunity to sit 463 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 1: down with the mom and dad of the brothers that 464 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: created history and that is unlikely to ever be to 465 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: ever happen again, and to watch the Super Bowl with 466 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: them for their first time. It did. It got emotional. 467 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: There were there were some tears and and and and 468 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: they and they were so open to me if if 469 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: you had asked me. The biggest thing that I was 470 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: surprised about it was how open everybody was with me, 471 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: because once you get past that ten minute work, they 472 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: just you know, John even said it became therapeutic and 473 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 1: so but but it will be interesting. Obviously, the big 474 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: controversy that game was was whether Jimmy Smith held cite Crabtree. 475 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: And I'm not going to give it all away, but 476 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: but but Jack went to the locker room to Jim, 477 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: and Jim asked him, was it holding Jackie broke it down? 478 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 1: They gave me their answers. It's just I just want 479 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: people to hear it. It's so good, it's emotional, it's 480 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: it's human, and it's it's fantastic. It is um So 481 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: we talked about it, but we also want to give 482 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: you guys a little bit of a taste. So here's 483 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 1: a little trailer to maybe get too excited about Man 484 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: of the Crowd, which is debuting next Monday from the 485 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. This is Man of the Crowd, a multi 486 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: episode podcast that pulls back the curtain on Ravens figures 487 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: personal lives this season the horror of family. I'm Sarah Ellison. 488 00:24:51,960 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: Possibly we're going to turn this day. What's enough enthusiasm? 489 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: Because you are fighters and that's what you are going 490 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: to beat today to Laurow, You're going to fight coming 491 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: up this season on Man of the Crowd. How unique 492 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 1: was the Super Bowl? No, it will never happen again. 493 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: His lip was quivered. What do you think at last place? 494 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: What do you think? Holding one day? You know what 495 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: you do? Wake up thinking thank God I beat him. 496 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: He wants to be considered the greatest coast that ever coast. 497 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: I think when John came into in the building, she 498 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: was expecting a fight that was getting really ugly. So 499 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:46,959 Speaker 1: I just went over and I told him said, as 500 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: that's enough, so we're a team, and that outside I 501 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 1: kind of unleashed on me. You want to go? You 502 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: want to go right now? That was a really bad 503 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: vibe and I told him that will be your biggest challenge. 504 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: What are your impressions of Jim crazy? Jim is hyper 505 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: hyper competitive. He got yes treated really badly and one 506 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: of those jobs really badly. And I know that. Yeah, 507 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,959 Speaker 1: I do think Jim is misunderstood sometimes. What do you 508 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: think Boo would say right now if he saw Jim 509 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: leading this program? Oh, you'd be so proud. And I 510 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: think he does know about that. I think he looks 511 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: down and get an emotional just talking about it. It 512 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: brings tears to my eyes thinking about it, because it's huge. 513 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: They've both traveled a different path, and John traveled a 514 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: long path. Do I say, Jim shadow and every time 515 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: I didn't have a friend, Uh, you know, sometimes I 516 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: wear those out sometimes here my old friend. This is 517 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: all about family. And in the end, what does it 518 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: come down to It comes down to your family. So 519 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: obviously you know you hear it in there. It's open, 520 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: it's candid, it's emotional. UM. And I've listened to about 521 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: half of the episodes, UM, and I'm eager to hear 522 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: the other ones. And what I've heard, I think, Yeah, 523 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: you're gonna get those done right. UM. You know, obviously 524 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: a huge undertaking, and so I think people will really 525 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: enjoy this. UM again one more time. That's coming out 526 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: next Monday. You can get it on iTunes, you can 527 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: get it on SoundCloud. It's called Man of the Crowd. UM. 528 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: It's definitely gonna be worth your time. And we're gonna 529 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: be debuting these episodes every Monday for the next uh 530 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: eight weeks. There's gonna be a new one um so, 531 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: and then we'll have a bonus ninth one, yes, uh so, 532 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: stay tuned for that. UM. We appreciate it. Thanks for 533 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: coming by the loud, thanks for having me on, Thanks 534 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: for plugging it. Man of the Crowd, Man of the Crowd. So, 535 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: as always, if you guys have questions or comments or 536 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 1: concerns about the Lounge, which is the brother of Man 537 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: of the Crowd, you can email us at the lounge 538 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: at Ravens Thought NFL dot net. Thanks for listening everyone, 539 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: Ryan will be back next week. Finally, um, have a 540 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: great week and we will talk with you again next 541 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 1: week