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Speaker 4: Let's get right into the podcast. There's a lot of

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Speaker 3: Empire and Star, which are both Lee Daniel shows, are

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I guess at the Disney bottom they said,

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Speaker 5: Who was watching Star.

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Speaker 3: She was like the supposed to be the star of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of interesting, man, because you know, it's

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Speaker 3: people that don't like Game of Thrones that you watching

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Speaker 3: Between this and our other news, which was, you know,

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Speaker 3: Steve Harvey's TV show got canceled and he was replaced

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Speaker 3: Denver became the first to decriminalize psychedelic mushrooms first state,

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Speaker 3: It's just you know, niggas don't even rap about doing

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Speaker 3: Common the Rapper reveals he was more blessed in his

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Speaker 3: Common is opening up for the first time our deeply

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Speaker 3: With and the Grammy Oscar and the Rapper actor activist

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Speaker 3: Have the Last Word, in which he reflects on his

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Speaker 3: And it's very you know, like high minded like kind

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Speaker 5: That's fucking ridiculous because people come out all the time,

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Speaker 3: And then people go, it's equal in opposite side. So

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Speaker 4: How you get people out of prison.

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Speaker 4: Why would I ever go to prison for ten years

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Speaker 3: How many times have we heard that? Why did were

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Speaker 3: people go, we got to get these rapists off the streets.

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00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 3: But if you were to say, my cousin did that

440
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 3: to me, then it's you're breaking up the family. You're

441
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 3: being devisive. Are you sure you didn't want that? You

442
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,119
Speaker 3: know this guy you were dating did it someone at

443
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 3: a bar? You see what I'm saying, Like, I just

444
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,160
Speaker 3: want to make sure that there's a difference that I'm

445
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 3: distinguishing here, because one of these, even Republicans, will be like, Okay, yeah,

446
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,920
Speaker 3: that that's terrible. But if you like get drunk at

447
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 3: a party, then they don't care.

448
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 4: It's a stranger.

449
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying, Go ahead, go ahead, No,

450
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:48,919
Speaker 5: I'm listening, But.

451
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 3: I just it's sounded like I just wanted to clarify

452
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,640
Speaker 3: one of these does matter to one of those. It's

453
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 3: not any better, but you can get a consensus on.

454
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah for the most part. But the thing is

455
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 5: Osbalaad just fucked up. Like and let's say you get

456
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 5: a conviction, old boy rape the girl was caught rape

457
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 5: for her, he got a slap on the wrist. What

458
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 5: the fuck is that? That's not justice?

459
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,160
Speaker 4: What happens when you lose a case.

460
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 5: Right, according to what you said, they gonna you're gonna

461
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:23,879
Speaker 5: have to pay for your for your shit, and they

462
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 5: ship too.

463
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 3: And possibly go to jail. What happens if you just

464
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 3: lose the case though, like they did it. They's just

465
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 3: courtlaw requires a stringent amount of They require normally a

466
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 3: stringent amount.

467
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 4: Of evidence to convict someone.

468
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 3: And this right, so like there's very few people who

469
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 3: are sitting in prison on a false rape accusation, and

470
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 3: just you know what I'm saying, With an open and

471
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 3: shut case, it's normally some like you know, something like

472
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 3: racial factor involved or something like that. But let's just

473
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,640
Speaker 3: say that you lose the case. You accuse this guy,

474
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 3: you accuse the guy, and and and the jury just

475
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 3: doesn't find in your favor. You know, they go, oh,

476
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:07,360
Speaker 3: they could have been consentual.

477
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 4: We don't. We'll never know.

478
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 3: Can that guy turn around to say I was found

479
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:16,199
Speaker 3: not guilty. I want to sue this person and I

480
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,199
Speaker 3: want them to go to jail because now you just

481
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 3: allow a rapist to revictimize their their survivor twice, you

482
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, like to come back at them.

483
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 3: So it's it's almost like why go to trial, Like

484
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 3: you're scaring me out of going to even go to

485
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 3: trial to even testify. It's already hard to get people

486
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 3: to testify in court about these things, considering sometimes you

487
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 3: have to go multiple times. I mean, look at the

488
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 3: case with uh Nate Parker where the woman had to

489
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 3: go to trial so many times she didn't come the

490
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 3: last time, and that's how he got.

491
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Speaker 4: Quote unquote acquitted.

492
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 5: You know, right, who wants to goes to that for

493
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 5: five six times? Right?

494
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 3: And people walk and if you look how people talk

495
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 3: about him, they walk around like innocent, he didn't do

496
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 3: anything wrong, Like I don't know why, you know, fuck

497
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 3: these transcripts, fuck everything he said, Fuck the trial, fuck

498
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 3: the first time. He an innocent person, And because I

499
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 3: want him to be innocent, that's the end of the discussion.

500
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 4: And imagine a world where then a person.

501
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 3: That is found quote unquote innocent after all that could

502
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,360
Speaker 3: be able to say, uh, yeah, I'm suing you and

503
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 3: also I want you to go to prison.

504
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 4: You know, it just seems like.

505
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 3: Uh, the same type of ship as the abortion the

506
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 3: heartbeat law.

507
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 5: Because how dare you demand rights of your body? Because

508
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 5: that's what it is is women saying hey, don't touch

509
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 5: me unwanted, and you know, to them, women are property.

510
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 3: And men and women men, and yes, because because because

511
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 3: I mean, men are even less likely to report it.

512
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 3: Three out of four already don't get reported three out

513
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 3: of four. Now, just before you start factoring in the

514
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 3: new this new law, if it passes, like.

515
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 5: All you're gonna do, all you're telling is rapist, it's

516
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 5: okay to rape. That's literally all you're telling rapist is

517
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 5: that it's okay to just go out here and just

518
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 5: functionhit out.

519
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 3: And keep in mind this is this is the only

520
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 3: time Republicans won't keep anybody out of jail, right, the

521
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 3: only time they won't keep anyone out of jail because

522
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 3: they're really just worried about their sons and shit going

523
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 3: off to these colleges and coming back with some type

524
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 3: of like sexual assault accusations, you know, and they just

525
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 3: try to scare these women into like a close your

526
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 3: legs and stay away from all men and only get

527
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 3: only have sex to procreate and get married. And that's

528
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 3: it because we must control your body, all right. Last

529
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 3: story along this vein a British man has been convicted

530
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 3: of rape after removing a condom during sex.

531
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Speaker 4: Yes that is right, yep.

532
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 3: Tuesday Lee Hogman at thirty five year old man from Bournemouth,

533
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 3: or was sent us to twelve years in prison after

534
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 3: raping a woman at a hotel when he chose to remove

535
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 3: the condom before I'm being used during sex. This comes

536
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 3: alongstide their landmark case in Germany found a police officer

537
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 3: to your sexual assault for the same crime now popular

538
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 3: known popularly as stealthy.

539
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, it should be a crime. It should be considered

540
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 4: sexuals sault and you should go to prison for it.

541
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 3: Right, I'm like, you are literally playing with people's lives.

542
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 3: You're already having sex, So what the fuck like if

543
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 3: you can't come to like if you can't say and

544
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 3: we're not talking about people like condoms breaking and shit,

545
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 3: willfully removing a condom to like it's crazy.

546
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, she don't particularly straight. Whoever, they don't know where

547
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 5: your dick being down, don't know where your dick being.

548
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 3: A right like and then also like the other part

549
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 3: of it that's wow to me is that there's people

550
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 3: that feel like there's another side to this.

551
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 4: There are people that are that.

552
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 3: Feel like stealthy is not like it's not wrong, like,

553
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 3: well I did get consent to have.

554
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 5: Sex with you, yes, with the condom?

555
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 3: Right, And and they'll also be like, it's it's all

556
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 3: right as men like we are, like we had a

557
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 3: right to the to have intercourse in the way it

558
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 3: was intended.

559
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 4: And ship like that. I kid you not.

560
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 3: They really will say that ship, which is scary as

561
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 3: fuck if you're a woman out here, because it's not

562
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 3: like that's saying that to the woman. Because if you say,

563
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 3: let me tell you something, if you said that to

564
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 3: her on a date, guess what you're not.

565
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 4: Gonna get to do.

566
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 3: You know what you're gonna like if you pulled out

567
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 3: the condum and then she was she she was like, uh, yes,

568
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 3: so make sure you put this on. And you said,

569
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 3: well I think I have a right to your body

570
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 3: and this is the natural way to procreate.

571
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 4: Yes, she would be like, well then get out. You

572
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 4: know it's crazy.

573
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 3: And sex is like such a I know, the new

574
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 3: wave and maybe you know whatever. However people feels how

575
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 3: they feel. I don't share the feelings. To be honest,

576
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 3: is that sex is this is like really throwaway thing,

577
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like it's not really that

578
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 3: intimate of an act and that is not that important.

579
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 3: And if you don't feel that way, it didn't have

580
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 3: to be. But I would like to add, it's so

581
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 3: fucking dangerous to me, and it's so fucking intimate to

582
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 3: me because of what's being involved, Like your body is

583
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 3: being involved in this thing. So for someone to violate

584
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 3: that should require a heavy penalty because it's not casual

585
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 3: to me to do this to someone, whether it's be

586
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 3: a casual hookup or not, it becomes unfucking casual with

587
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 3: the second.

588
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

589
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, it's like if uh, it's like we

590
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 3: casually go out to eat every day, right, we go

591
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 3: out there casually. Hey, we have a casual dinner between friends.

592
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be important, just friends go out

593
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: to eat. But if every once in a while at

594
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 3: the dinner you could hop across the table and stab

595
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 3: me with a steak knife, I would start I would

596
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 3: be a little less inclined to treat that casually. That's

597
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 3: a pretty big faux pas, if you know what I mean.

598
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:59,719
Speaker 3: And so I think people have tried to like, uh,

599
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 3: people trying to act like well, because sex is treated

600
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 3: more casually then or not, people the men who.

601
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 4: Are into this shit.

602
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 3: Because sex is treated more casually, this should be no

603
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 3: big deal.

604
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 4: It's the biggest fucking deal.

605
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 5: The fuck because the thing is all aside. Everybody ain't clean,

606
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 5: Everybody don't take care of their bodies. It's all types

607
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 5: of motherfucker STDs out there. People ain't getting vaccinated, shitting't

608
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 5: you takes next thing, you know, you're gonna you're gonna

609
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 5: have the ex gene of gone rhea or some ship

610
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 5: wiping folks out. No, I don't want what you got.

611
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 4: And sex sexual assault is not about it.

612
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 3: Like this is the most biggest proof it's not about sex,

613
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 3: right because you see this all the time, men warning

614
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 3: women about looking too good. Oh, if you wear these

615
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 3: kind of clothes, if you go to these kinds of places,

616
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 3: you're gonna get sexually assaulted. And then you look in

617
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 3: the paper every day and you see eighty nine year

618
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 3: old woman was sexual assaulted. Yeah, I guarantee it wasn't

619
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 3: what she had on, you know. But this is how

620
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 3: a lot of men who are raised by rape culture think, right,

621
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 3: Like they don't think they because they're not hopefully not

622
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 3: sexual assaulters, because they're not rapists. They're they're not connecting

623
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 3: with the date data and the research and this fucking

624
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 3: accounts in the words from actual rapists who tell them.

625
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 3: And it's not about a woman looking a certain way

626
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 3: or doing some certain activity. Literally, it is just I

627
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 3: want to have power, and there's nothing more.

628
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 4: In my opinion, this right here.

629
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 3: Is the most like nakedly no pun intended, transparent that

630
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 3: you can have the motivations because you are having You

631
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 3: are having consensual sex with a person when you have

632
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 3: on the condom. So then the act of taking it

633
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 3: off is about having the power to take away their

634
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 3: choice from them, so that now they no longer are

635
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 3: in control of their body and what is happening.

636
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 4: To them, even on a sneaky level.

637
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 3: Right, So, your whole thing was I'm turned on by

638
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 3: the fact that you no longer had I am making

639
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 3: a power.

640
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 4: Move over you.

641
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 3: And that's what sexual assault is about. And that's why

642
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 3: I would consider.

643
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 5: This, right agree, all types of shit, pregnancy, STDs, all

644
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 5: types of shit. You stripping her of that choice.

645
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 3: Right, Just the fact that she don't want to do

646
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 3: it should be enough, Like that's not how I would

647
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 3: like to have sex, you know what I mean?

648
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 4: That should be enough. But yeah, I'm glad the police

649
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 4: are taking it seriously. This isn't the US.

650
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 3: I don't know if we even have laws on the

651
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 3: books against this, but clearly we should, you know what

652
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 3: I mean?

653
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 5: Like, right, men ain't shit because this is the group

654
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 5: you're talking about is a bunch of fucking men.

655
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 4: Right.

656
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 3: So yeah, And I can't even imagine if you're like

657
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 3: a sex worker and you have and this happens.

658
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 4: What do you do? Go too? That's crazy.

659
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Speaker 3: Maryland lawmakers aim to make it easier for prosecutors to

660
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Speaker 3: overturn wrongful convictions. So that's good, and yes, that is

661
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Speaker 3: you know, I mean, why would we want it to

662
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 3: be hard for you to overturn the wrongful conviction.

663
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Speaker 4: I'm not sure.

664
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Speaker 5: Sometimes people are wrongfully convicted and sometimes I say fuck it,

665
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 5: and people still stay in jail.

666
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 3: Maryland lawmakers passed the bill this week to allow prosecutors

667
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 3: to overturntain it or unjust convictions. Baltimore State's Attorney office

668
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 3: pushed for the measures that were sponsored by former state

669
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Speaker 3: and federal prosecutor dal Eric Barron, deal Delegate Eric Okay

670
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Speaker 3: Delegate Eric Barron.

671
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 4: The effort came.

672
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 3: Out to prosecutors hit roadblocks by trying to overthrow convictions

673
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 3: connected with the scandal tied to the gun Task Force.

674
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 3: Gun Trace Task Force, where officers were found to be

675
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 3: abusive and corrupted an investigation conducted by the Department of

676
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 3: Justice in twenty sixteen. Prosecutors also dealt with similar issues

677
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 3: while trying to overturn marijuana fleshing convictions. After a policy

678
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Speaker 3: Baltimore State's Attorney Marilynd Moseby said Wednesday that prosecutors across

679
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 3: the state will soon had the procedural right to revisit

680
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 3: convictions for those that were unfairly or wrongly convicted. Shout

681
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 3: out to Maryland Moseby. I remember doing Freddy Gray. You know,

682
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 3: she was trying. She tried her best to like find

683
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Speaker 3: something on those cops to like, you know, get the

684
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 3: community some justice for Freddie Gray. And I know she

685
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 3: caint held from it.

686
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Speaker 4: You know, I saw people kind of write and hit

687
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 4: pieces on her and stuff. I still don't really understand

688
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 4: why folks felt she needed to be taken down.

689
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 3: I mean, I read the pieces and I still don't

690
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 3: get it, to be honest, But I'm glad that she's

691
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 3: committed to that work long after.

692
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 4: And this is kind of that point.

693
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Speaker 3: Where I'll, you know, not to make it about Kamala,

694
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 3: but I'm about to make it about her. But we

695
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 3: do need these kind of people as prosecutors. We need

696
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 3: people like this at every step of the process. Yes,

697
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 3: there are people that know need to go to jail.

698
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 3: You know, people do certain shit and it's just shit.

699
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 3: Did you like that person need to be off the streets?

700
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 4: You know?

701
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 3: And I know there's people that are like, you know,

702
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 3: prison abolitionist, blah blah blah. I don't have all the answers.

703
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 3: I just know that if it's a motherfucker out here

704
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 3: like raping kids and shit, I don't want to hear

705
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 3: some well, you know, we gotta have a We'll have

706
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 3: a starn talking to with them, like it has to

707
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 3: be an alternative to this shit. So I get why

708
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 3: you need a prosecutor that might be forceful and strong

709
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 3: on certain type of convictions, But you also need a

710
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 3: prosecutor who's willing to use.

711
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 4: Their what do you call it, their their judgment let's

712
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 4: just say their judgment.

713
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 3: Who's willing to use their judgment to be like, but

714
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 3: these cases aren't that serious and we should not be

715
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 3: convicting people from marijuana possession because they have that power too.

716
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 4: Hey, we need to drop this Jesse Smole that thing.

717
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 4: It's ridiculous.

718
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 3: Police can be mad, police union could be mad, the

719
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 3: mayor could be mad. Fuck them is a waste of

720
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 3: our resources. I'm not doing taxpayers money, you know, So

721
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 3: I don't really believe or really co sign the whole

722
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 3: like a prosecutor could never be president the whole office.

723
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 3: Now I disagree because because something you do need to

724
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 3: prosecutor prosecutorial oversight, and sometimes you do need a prosecutor

725
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 3: that will throw the book at a person, like some

726
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 3: motherfuckers need to book thrown at them.

727
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 4: And in this case with I mean, she lost it.

728
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 3: But if she would have took down the costa kill

729
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 3: Freddie Gray, I k wouldn't have been sitting around like,

730
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 3: well that was too harsh.

731
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 4: I would have been like, good, she got them. You know.

732
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 3: So some motherfuckers gotta go to jail, but shot out to

733
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 3: Maryland Moseby. And also that says a lot about the

734
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 3: system that, like you said, Karen, we can be like

735
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 3: this person is not guilty, this is a they're innocent,

736
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 3: and then there's still hurdles to get them out of jail.

737
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 5: Right, which makes no fucking sense, Like they'll still be

738
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 5: like because the thing is the bodies are the commodity.

739
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 5: The body is what makes you money, So keeping them

740
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 5: in jail is what makes you motherfucking money. That's what

741
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 5: makes you money. So why would you release somebody if

742
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 5: them being in jail is a profit to you?

743
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 4: Right?

744
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 3: And these uh, the gun trace task for US was

745
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 3: convicted the federal racketeering charges. The RICO officers were convicted

746
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 3: for robbing, conducting the legal searches, just find arrest by

747
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 3: lying on court documents and more so you got thousands

748
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 3: of convictions related to these officers. This is like, there's

749
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 3: a lot more work then. I'm sure it would have

750
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 3: been easier for Marilyn Mosey to be and and uh

751
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 3: and and Barron to be like, you know what, dog

752
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 3: that wasn't on my watch, Good luck innocent black people

753
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 3: in prison, Good.

754
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 4: Luck, it will be a lot. They made more work.

755
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 3: For themselves by being like, the right thing to do

756
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 3: is to look into these cases and overturn these motherfuckers.

757
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 5: Right because y'all have shown that most of these people

758
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 5: don't need to be in jail, right, but like this,

759
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 5: and even if they do, y'all fucked it up. So

760
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 5: we got to let them go, even if they deserve

761
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 5: to be in jail.

762
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 4: Yep.

763
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 3: Let's see what else you got here? Oh man, all

764
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 3: these all these stories are down there. Uh, here's one.

765
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 3: A man was killed after shots were fired at NBA

766
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 3: Young Boy in Miami. Rapper NBA Young Boy has poorly

767
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 3: been shot at in the shooting near Trump International Beach

768
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 3: Resort in Miami. They already said two people were injured

769
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 3: in the Sunday afternoon shooting at the Alamo rent a

770
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 3: car along Collins Avenue, which is across the street from

771
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 3: the Trump Resort. One of the injured, including a nineteen

772
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 3: year old woman who was rushed to the hospital. Condition

773
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 3: was not disclosed. A third victim was shot dead. The

774
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 3: males were dounstead at the scene that identities have not

775
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 3: been released. Photos of the scene show first responders put

776
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 3: in a victim in the back of an ambulance.

777
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 4: Another photo shows.

778
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 3: A man lying on the ground with hands in the airs,

779
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 3: police surround him.

780
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 4: Some witnesses up claimed the.

781
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 3: Shooting was a result of a road rage incident, while

782
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 3: others have said three suspects just opened fire on the

783
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 3: victims during the drive by.

784
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 4: Sunny Isles Beach.

785
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 3: Police said the suspects were armed with ak forty seven

786
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 3: and several hand gallons.

787
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 4: Two suspects have portly been arrested.

788
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 3: Authority said the Trump International Beach Resort has been locked down.

789
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 3: Guests have been told to stay in their rooms till

790
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 3: the scene is clear. Shooting comes just a day after

791
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 3: it was reported that Young Boy was feuding with a

792
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 3: rapper to Kashi six Nin's baby Mama Sarah Molina and

793
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 3: hip hop podcaster Adam twenty two Yo Man after text one,

794
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 3: I don't know why ain'tybody fucking with these hip hop

795
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 3: podcast is? Dog like niggas is out here taking this.

796
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 5: Year super serious in the streets.

797
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, like PI, I love podcasting, but I ain't never

798
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 3: killing a nigga over this shit.

799
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 5: Nigga know if that's If that's the case, I'm on

800
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 5: sesame Street, then just don't like me. Mm hmm. I'm

801
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 5: okay with you not liking me.

802
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 4: That's fine.

803
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 3: You got podcasts be for me, then that's just between

804
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 3: you and the Lord. Because I'm staying out of it.

805
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 3: Staying out of it, I will right up to you

806
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 3: at the motherfucking gas station and hey, how you doing,

807
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 3: and keep it moving and keep.

808
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 5: It going, doll. It is not that motherfucking important to me.

809
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 4: Killing people, dog shooting at people and.

810
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 5: Shit podcasts ain't that real to me?

811
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 4: Right?

812
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 5: I am not trying to represent my set that bad.

813
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 4: Niggas banging over Webby Awards, Come on.

814
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 5: Right, come on now, come on banging over studio time.

815
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 5: I don't think so.

816
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 3: Niggas gonna take their life take a life to get

817
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 3: on a bus feed list. Mm hmmmm, Malina hugg.

818
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 5: I put your I tell them to take my name

819
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 5: off the goddamnites. It ain't that important to me.

820
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 3: Molina up here on Adam twenty two's podcast last week

821
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 3: and claim Young Boy send her video that cursed her

822
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 3: out after she gave an opinion on his music because

823
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 3: someone asked me in my live like, what do you

824
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 3: think of young boys music? I think I think he's disrespectful,

825
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 3: so I say, I think he's an angry little boy.

826
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 3: Then he hit me up stopped talking about me, bitch.

827
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 4: I mean, way to prove it right.

828
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 3: Earlier this year, Young Boy was arrested at High House

829
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 3: in Atlanta. This early conduct charges alongside start thig Pin.

830
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 3: Atlanta Police Department said at the time, the housekeeping staff

831
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 3: entered the room, which they thought was unoccupied, and young

832
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 3: boy instructed thief Pin to get the staff out of

833
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 3: the room, but he said thief Pin stuck destruct the

834
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 3: housekeeper in the face and the fight team in the

835
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 3: hallway too. Also charge of marijuana possession involved in less

836
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 3: than the ouse. So it sounded like he just is

837
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 3: about that brotherfucking life.

838
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 5: Hmm, I'm not about that life. I'll be the person

839
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 5: nigga to tell you. I'm not about that life at all.

840
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 4: Man.

841
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,439
Speaker 3: People out here trying to kill folks. Man, Like all said,

842
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 3: got shot at this shit.

843
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 5: It ain't that. IM pointing to me, y'all, like.

844
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 3: I don't know who gonna lose they life over this shit.

845
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 3: But it seemed like we I mean, at the nipsy

846
00:40:54,520 --> 00:41:00,919
Speaker 3: Still people just just out here living, living dangerously. Manh

847
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: Let's see what else is happening. How marriage became a

848
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 3: status symbol for millennials. Fewer millennials are getting married than

849
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 3: in previous generations, but those who are trying to not

850
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 3: share one important traite money. Not even four out of

851
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,760
Speaker 3: ten millennials were married in twenty sixteen, compared with almost

852
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 3: six out of ten young adults in the late nineteen eighties,

853
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 3: representing a generational shift away from the altar. A recent

854
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 3: paper for the Federal Reserve Bank of Saint Louis notes

855
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 3: millennials are far more likely to be living with a

856
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 3: partner or to be single than their parents at their age.

857
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 3: In other words, and their generations shift away from marriage

858
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 3: may be less a matter of choice and more a

859
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 3: result of economic factors that have made in the institution

860
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 3: less approachable. Young adults born between eighty one and nineteen

861
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 3: ninety six have remarkable have remarkably similar taste as previous generations.

862
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 3: They're just much poorer, the data shows, and that's putting

863
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 3: marriage out to reach for all except the wealthiest of

864
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 3: their generation.

865
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

866
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, when you've got thousands in a house, in a car,

867
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 5: stute loan debts, you know, when you got credit card debts.

868
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 5: You know, when your job is barely paying enough to

869
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 5: pay these stute loans back. You know, people got degrees

870
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 5: and doctors and shit, and they want you to motherfucking

871
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 5: work minimum wage. How the fuck are you gonna pay

872
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 5: that loan back? You know, shit like that matters.

873
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's also why you see people

874
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 3: getting married later in life.

875
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 5: And having children later in life too, Because you.

876
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 3: Can't afford it, you know, us having this generation that

877
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 3: is saddled with debt, who are going to earn less

878
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 3: than their parents did.

879
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 4: Who's you know, and not to.

880
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 3: Mention that just fucking completely negative environment about millennials, right

881
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 3: every newspaper article. They're too lazy, they're too broke, that

882
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 3: we don't go we saddled you with debt generationally, and

883
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 3: so now you can't do things that we took for granted,

884
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 3: like get out age, take a job that doesn't make

885
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 3: that much money, and live on your own. Now you

886
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 3: basically you can get out of college and get that job,

887
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 3: and you still need to stay home if you want

888
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 3: to break even at some point, you know, sooner rather

889
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 3: than later, because you never gonna pay back student loans

890
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 3: while paying rent, right, So, and you know money is

891
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 3: the number one cause of divorce, and yeah, that strain

892
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 3: on a relationship. You're not even gonna be able to

893
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 3: build a marriage, let alone sustain one with all that

894
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 3: money that debt on your ass.

895
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 5: Right, Like, things like that matter. And I don't know

896
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 5: why people act like that shit don't matter, because, like

897
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 5: you said, the millennials are not the problem. Most millennials

898
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 5: all the side they work harder than the generations before them.

899
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 5: A lot of them literally work two and three jobs.

900
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 5: A lot of them got a part time job or

901
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 5: another job beside hustle and hustle for the hustle and

902
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 5: the hustle for the hustle. Like, they're a hard working generation,

903
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 5: and sometimes they don't get the credit is due because

904
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 5: people just judge them.

905
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 4: Well.

906
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 3: The other thing too, and this is just something now.

907
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be a trend that will continue.

908
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 3: As long as women have had more choices, they're going

909
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 3: to get married less. Like marriage to a man is

910
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 3: not the proposition that people think it is. It's only

911
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 3: been the great proposition because society held women back in

912
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 3: a way that access to a man allowed them access

913
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 3: to some of their male privilege, and therefore it was

914
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 3: a smart business venture to connect to a man. Right,

915
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 3: I can't leave the house because my whole life I'm

916
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 3: connected to a man, my father and then until and

917
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 3: then passed on literally someone pays a dowry and then

918
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: I'm passed on as a business proposition to another man,

919
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 3: which will allow me things like hopefully home ownership, having children,

920
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 3: maybe even the ability to work and earn an income.

921
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 3: If not that ability to work and the income, I

922
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 3: will use my skills around the house, that is labor,

923
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 3: and he'll earn the bread and come home. Well, motherfuckers

924
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 3: don't earn bread enough to be fucking taking care of

925
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 3: no women and no children anymore.

926
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 4: That's the thing of the past. Come on. And then

927
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 4: the other part of it.

928
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 3: Is women make enough money now where if you're if

929
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 3: you're gonna be in debt anyway, I can do bad

930
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 3: by myself. Come women are going to college longer, being

931
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 3: higher educated, earning more money than they used to, and

932
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 3: they're still this is still a that seventy seven cent

933
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 3: on the dollar or whatever it is, and it's still

934
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 3: better because once you strap yourself to a man, you

935
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 3: strap yourself to more work at home, Yes you do.

936
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 3: You might strap yourself to more work because of childcare.

937
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 3: More debt, more debt, like you know, even a wedding

938
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 3: is a debt. Is a debt now, yes it is.

939
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 3: So the proposition for women, women are kind of and

940
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 3: this is not to saying one is good or bad,

941
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 3: but women are kind of becoming the men, you know,

942
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 3: and I don't mean the men is in like they

943
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 3: lead the household, but the men is in. Men had

944
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 3: options all this time, Like we always go, oh, this

945
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 3: guy's a confirmed bachelor, this guy's never going to get married. Whoa,

946
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 3: this guy waited till he's forty to get married, and

947
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 3: we go, why did that happen? Because the proposition for

948
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 3: having a woman to a for a man was not

949
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 3: always the same financial proposition.

950
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 4: It was you know what I'm saying.

951
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 3: It was always for it was The argument was always

952
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 3: pitched as you to you, as some like this is the.

953
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 4: Mature thing to do, this is the.

954
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 3: Uh this, look at the labor that will happen in

955
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 3: your house for you without you even want like trying,

956
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 3: like now, so Wint'll cook and clean for you.

957
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 4: You know that kind of shit. But but but men.

958
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 3: Have always been like I like the access to different

959
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 3: women and doing whatever I want to do more than

960
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,959
Speaker 3: I like the access to one woman and having to

961
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 3: build a life around that.

962
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 4: Right, And women now get to have that feeling.

963
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 6: Right.

964
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 5: They get to have the choice of a I don't

965
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 5: want to settle down. Yes, I want to have multiple

966
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 5: partners if I choose to. No, I don't want to

967
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 5: have one man, you know, I want to sleep around.

968
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 5: That's my right. That's my choice.

969
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,919
Speaker 3: And even if they don't want to sleep with anybody, right,

970
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 3: they're still coming out of head. Yes, the average you know,

971
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 3: the average sexual intercourse with the man anyway with insists

972
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 3: hetero sexual sexual tangle entanglements. Most women are not gonna

973
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 3: be sexually satisfied in that type.

974
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 4: Of way anyway.

975
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 3: Correct, So what would be the fucking point of you

976
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like, it's not even necessarily the

977
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 3: proposition that you can have with men, which is that, well,

978
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 3: a man will almost certainly always be sexually satisfied in

979
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 3: the sist Now, obviously this whole conversation says head on

980
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 3: over them, but a man will almost always be sexually

981
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 3: satisfied in that type of way. So it's not even

982
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 3: the same argument you can make for women, which is

983
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 3: just like well, I'm just like having different dicks or whatever.

984
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 3: Like literally, men are just a bad proposition, They're a

985
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 3: bad investment.

986
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, And women have the right to say no. And

987
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 5: that's the thing that Dollie is fucked up we were

988
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 5: talking about before. That's what they're trying to strip, the

989
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 5: right for you not to have choice, the right for

990
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 5: you to tie yourself back to men. Again, the right

991
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 5: to decrease your income so you have to depend on men,

992
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 5: the right to take awa birth control and abortions, so

993
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 5: that if you have an unwanted pregnancy, now you have

994
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 5: to keep it. We're stripping away all your choices. So

995
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 5: you know, now, you know you can't wait till you're forty,

996
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 5: you know. So it's basically, don't fuck as a woman,

997
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 5: don't fuck at all, because if you sip around and

998
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 5: fucking get pregnant, that that's literally the end for you.

999
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 5: And you know, and like you say, it's one of

1000
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 5: those things where most women are forced to be not all,

1001
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 5: but most are forced to be physically responsible. A lot

1002
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 5: of men aren't even forced to be physically responsible a

1003
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 5: lot of times. And so then you have me. If

1004
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 5: I'm somebody physically responsible and I take care of my

1005
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 5: shit and I get with the man that's not physically responsible,

1006
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 5: I don't want to tie my dead up with his

1007
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 5: and he's not physically responsible, I have a choice to be. Like, no, nigga,

1008
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 5: get your shit straight, yo, you made a really great point. Yeah,

1009
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 5: all these laws are about taking away women's ability to

1010
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 5: say no. Even that sexual assault law is really about

1011
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 5: you should not even charge somebody or attempt to get

1012
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 5: justice for being sexually violated, because we're gonna if you

1013
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 5: don't get them, and you probably won't in the court

1014
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 5: of law, we are going to make it so that

1015
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 5: you're now the one home trial. Yeah, that's really astute

1016
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 5: observation that you made, Karen, and then Greg says, lately,

1017
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 5: most guys look to marry a housekeeper, not a friend.

1018
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 5: That has always been true, like literally, it's just at

1019
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 5: least in America. I mean probably everywhere, but at least

1020
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 5: in America. It has always been pitched to men that.

1021
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 3: You marry a woman for what she does in the house, cleaning, cooking,

1022
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 3: raising your ch kids, and then you go earn money.

1023
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 3: And that's the deal that we've made. It's only recently

1024
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 3: that that change.

1025
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 5: Right, that's the you know, the the deal is that

1026
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 5: my paycheck should be my paycheck and my dicks to

1027
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 5: be efficient enough women, and you know a lot of

1028
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 5: women are really fighting back against that, and that's why

1029
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 5: you have a lot of men to get highly upset

1030
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 5: because the first time ever women are not able to

1031
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 5: voice their opinions. See men, it's that said women are

1032
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 5: marginalized group. So you have this marginalized group because of

1033
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 5: social media and all these aspects, having a place where

1034
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 5: they can actually talk about shit that generations of women

1035
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 5: have fucking had problems with but never could voice it

1036
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 5: or never felt like they could voice it. You have

1037
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 5: a generation of women now that are being raised to

1038
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 5: be like, no, you know, he can't touch you, and no,

1039
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 5: he can't do this to you. And you got rights

1040
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 5: and you got choices. You want to get educated, Go

1041
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 5: get educated, Go get your degree. You don't have to

1042
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 5: get married now you cannot, you can wait. And men

1043
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 5: don't like that because all of a sudden, but then

1044
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 5: you're fucking up their pool of choices because you know,

1045
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 5: just like when it comes to rich and poor, a

1046
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 5: lot of times people like to keep poor people dumb,

1047
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 5: you know, because if you keep poor people dumb, they

1048
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 5: don't know no better. They won't make better choices. They

1049
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 5: won't make better decisions because they're not. The lack of education.

1050
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 5: And so women got education, and that was quote unquote

1051
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 5: some of the worst things for men was women to

1052
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 5: get educated, because once they get educated, I realize I

1053
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,479
Speaker 5: have choices, ones that have choices and rights. That means

1054
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 5: I'll start thinking and thinking critically and challenging you and

1055
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 5: looking at shit and going, well, why does it have

1056
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 5: to be this way? And why does it have to

1057
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,760
Speaker 5: be that way? And all of a sudden, men lose

1058
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 5: control over the situation because a lot of this shit

1059
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 5: is by control. You lose control over the situation because

1060
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, you have a wife that

1061
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 5: won't rights. You got a wife all of a sudden

1062
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 5: it wants to work. You got a wife that wants

1063
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 5: to be educated. And a lot of these laws, too,

1064
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 5: they stem from men's fragile egos, you know, their egos

1065
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 5: can't take a woman being highly educated. Their egos a

1066
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 5: lot of times can't take a woman making more money

1067
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 5: than they do. Not all men, quote unquote, but for

1068
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 5: a lot of men. And this shit matters you, hear

1069
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 5: men all the time. I got to get my money right,

1070
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 5: got to get my money right. Got to get my

1071
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 5: money right. Because as far as that concern, they got

1072
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 5: to have more money than a woman, you know, than

1073
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 5: a woman that they're with, because if she makes money,

1074
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, she can make the decisions that

1075
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 5: a man can make. All of a sudden, she can

1076
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 5: leave me lonely and buy myself and broken busted and

1077
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 5: all that other shit that men do the women. You

1078
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 5: know men, No, men are terrible, but you know, and

1079
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 5: that never want to be on the other side of that.

1080
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 5: So that's why they have a lot of these hang

1081
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 5: ups about shit because you know, I feel like, if

1082
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 5: I make money, we make money. You make money, we

1083
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 5: make money. But I realize a lot of households don't

1084
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 5: function like that. A lot of households are constantly a

1085
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 5: battle of a sexist like the fucking internet. You're like, y'all,

1086
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 5: if it's supposed to be your loved on, why y'all

1087
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 5: busting and fighting and you bringing all this this battle

1088
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 5: of sexes in the household is supposed to be one.

1089
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 5: It's dumb.

1090
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just crazy, man, thinking about how how often

1091
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 3: like marriage now is gonna be a mark we have

1092
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 3: some money, it's just like it's not gonna be a mark.

1093
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 3: I mean maybe it's always been that way, but I

1094
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 3: guess now less people can afford the money to be

1095
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 3: in the marriage camp, correct, I mean, you know, marriage,

1096
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 3: uh changes people's taxes and you know the trajectory of

1097
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 3: relationships and financial stability and stuff.

1098
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 4: So it's just crazy that basically a whole generation of people.

1099
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 3: Is being robbed of what really was not as big

1100
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 3: a deal, you know, back in the day that now

1101
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:31,879
Speaker 3: it's a huge deal to get married, right.

1102
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 5: Because years ago people people didn't always have the money,

1103
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 5: but people go, fuck it, get married anyway. And now

1104
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 5: people are like, you might not want to make that choice.

1105
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 5: And you know, also a lot of people still buy

1106
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 5: into the tradition of dowries, you know, and paying and

1107
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 5: all that stuff. Because I remember when we got married,

1108
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 5: my mom was like, well, I don't have, uh the

1109
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 5: money you know, to pay for, you know, a wedding

1110
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 5: and things like that. And I was like, uh, you're

1111
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 5: not getting married. I am. I'm very non traditional like that.

1112
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 5: I was like, I don't want a wedding, like you know,

1113
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 5: I'm good, Like, nope, don't don't scrape your corns, don't

1114
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 5: do none of that. I'm opting to opt past that

1115
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 5: because it's debt and this money that I don't have.

1116
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 5: And we got married really young. So I'm like, well, bitch,

1117
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 5: bells don't stop just because you got married everything you

1118
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 5: still oh shit. So I know everybody functions differently, but

1119
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 5: that but that's how my mind functioned. I was like,

1120
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 5: that is an unnecessary bill that I didn't want in

1121
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 5: my life.

1122
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 4: Are you often angry or irritable? You may be depressed, agreed.

1123
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 3: Registered nurse Ebanye Monroe of Houston recently went through a

1124
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,919
Speaker 3: period of being quick to anger about every little thing.

1125
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 3: She didn't realize that then what it might mean for

1126
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 3: a health If you had told me in the beginning

1127
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 3: that my irritability was related to depression, I would have

1128
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 3: been I would probably livid. I did not think irritability

1129
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 3: aligned with depression, she says with a laugh.

1130
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 4: She's not alone.

1131
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 3: Many people, including physicians, associate depression with feelings of hopelessness, sadness,

1132
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 3: and lack of motivation of concentration, but not anger. Some

1133
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 3: researchers say that's a problem, given that there appears to

1134
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 3: be a strong link between irritability and depression. If you

1135
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 3: pick up what is often called the Bible of psychiatry,

1136
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 3: the Diagnostic Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, you'll find that

1137
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 3: the list of core symptoms for major depression doesn't include anger.

1138
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 3: It's not included in all of the adult classification of depression,

1139
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 3: said doctor Maurizio Fava, a psychiatrist at a Massachusetts General

1140
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 3: hospital and a professor at Harvard Medical School. But he

1141
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 3: points out that irritability, a reduced control over one's temper

1142
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 3: that results in angry outbursts, is listed as a core

1143
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 3: symptom of depression for children and adolescents. It has never

1144
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,760
Speaker 3: made since to him that it's not included for adults.

1145
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 3: Why with someone who have to be irritable and angry

1146
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 3: when depress is an adolescent suddenly stopped being angry at

1147
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 3: age of eighteen?

1148
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 5: He says, correct, And it's one of those things. But

1149
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 5: being angry all the time can leally make you depressed.

1150
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 5: Like a lot of people fail to realize that, like

1151
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 5: like just being constantly angry will affect you. It will.

1152
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 3: Well, they're saying it's a symptom of the depression, not

1153
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 3: the other way around. Like it's not the anger is

1154
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 3: causing the depression, it's the depression is causing the irritability

1155
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 3: and leading to the anger.

1156
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,280
Speaker 5: Ah okay, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes okay

1157
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 5: yes okay.

1158
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 3: Because there are angry people that aren't clinically depressed, but

1159
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 3: they do have anger issues that are you know, I mean,

1160
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 3: you know we've all seen it, you know where it's

1161
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 3: just like oh that niggas fucked up somehow, But I

1162
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 3: don't know that they depressed, but they are angry. But

1163
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 3: they're saying, like, you know, something that often isn't associated

1164
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 3: with depression. I think anger is not one of those things, right, sadness.

1165
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 3: I said in my bed, I cried all day. I

1166
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 3: did this, But no one talks about like the fact

1167
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 3: that so many people are just looking for things to

1168
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 3: be mad at, raging all the time, upset all the time,

1169
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 3: and complaining about every fucking thing. And you look at

1170
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 3: them and you know, and I think maybe it's a distraction,

1171
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 3: maybe whatever. But part of me has always felt like, oh,

1172
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 3: there's something like sad about the fact that you know

1173
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 3: you're always angry because there's something inside that's sad.

1174
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 4: It's not not something inside that's just angry.

1175
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 3: But I feel like if you cut down the layers

1176
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 3: of the cake, you'll get to a sad center for

1177
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 3: a lot of these angry people.

1178
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 5: Correct. Correct is like I have this emotion and what

1179
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 5: do I do with it? And a lot of times

1180
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 5: everybody doesn't cry. Some people are like, I'm going to

1181
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 5: take this depression and I'm just gonna be mad at

1182
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 5: the world.

1183
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 3: Right, So anger is an emotional and physical feeling that

1184
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 3: makes people want to warn, intimidate, or attack a person

1185
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 3: who's perceived to threaten me. Father says, a depressed adote

1186
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 3: with lots of angers off the asson to have bipolar

1187
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 3: disorder or personality disorder. We see it in clinics patients

1188
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 3: who are labeled as having other diagnoses because people think, well,

1189
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 3: you shouldn't be so angry.

1190
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 4: If you're a depressed says Father.

1191
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 3: The diagnosis matters because it affects the kind of treatment

1192
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 3: people get.

1193
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 4: Back.

1194
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 3: When he was trained decades ago, Father said he was

1195
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 3: taught that indepression anger is projected inward, that depressed people

1196
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 3: will be angry at themselves but not at others. That

1197
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 3: didn't match what he was seeing in a lot of

1198
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 3: his patients with depression. I would say one in three

1199
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 3: patients would report to me that they would lose their temper,

1200
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 3: they would get angry, they would throw things, or yell

1201
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 3: or scream or slam the door, says Father. Afterwards, these

1202
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 3: people would be filled with remorse. Father thinks that these

1203
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 3: anger attacks may be the phenomenon that are similar to

1204
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 3: panic attacks. His research found that this kind of anger

1205
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 3: subsided in the majority of patients treated with antidepressors. Psychiatriy

1206
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 3: has carefully study how anxiety and depressed mood are experienced

1207
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 3: by patients, knows father, but anger has been relatively neglected.

1208
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 3: I don't think that we have really examined all the

1209
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 3: variables and all the levels of anger disregulation that people experience. Yeah,

1210
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. I'm not a psychologist on

1211
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:12,919
Speaker 3: any level, but I don't know. It kind of makes

1212
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 3: sense to me that a lot of these motherfuckers that

1213
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 3: are just raging, you know, and now we see more

1214
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 3: and more of each other's starts with the social media.

1215
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 3: So you see people and we all know these fucking people,

1216
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 3: We're all like, damn that nigga mad again? Like can't

1217
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 3: nobody do nothing right? Like everything you gotta go off,

1218
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 3: like you can't. Just like because normal people whatever, you know,

1219
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 3: not not not that're not normal, but people throughout life

1220
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 3: experience and range of emotions in a day experience range

1221
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 3: of emotions. Do we all see and share a certain

1222
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 3: thing imposts and whatnot, But like you see sometimes you

1223
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 3: see people that hold onto something so long and you're like,

1224
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 3: you're holding onto that for some other reason than just

1225
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 3: like it couldnot be that impactful. That has to be

1226
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 3: something you're holding on too strong to be. You know,

1227
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 3: more is going on in your life than whatever.

1228
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 5: This thing is and this thing you can focus on

1229
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 5: to distract from the other thing.

1230
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, I saw a person on Twitter talking about

1231
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 3: how they were crying over Gamer Thrones because they invested

1232
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 3: ten years of their lives into a product that was

1233
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 3: ultimately about white written by white men or some shit

1234
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 3: like that, and.

1235
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 4: I was like, that's you need.

1236
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 3: You need something stronger than tweets Like that sounds like

1237
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 3: something is going on in your life life, right, because

1238
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 3: it's just a TV show, even if you hate it,

1239
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 3: even if you don't like it, It's just a TV show.

1240
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 5: Man.

1241
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 4: You're an adult. You shouldn't be crying over this.

1242
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 3: You got real problems, real life, hopefully, real relationships, real family.

1243
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 3: Those people are make believe, you know, you know, those

1244
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 3: those fucking angry ass gamer gay ass nerves that attach

1245
01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 3: themselves are like Star Wars and they're like, you know,

1246
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 3: constantly making their entire life about like shitting on the

1247
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 3: last Jedi. Something that y'all ain't mad at the last Jedi. Dog, Like,

1248
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 3: I don't know if nobody gonna tell you. But it's

1249
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 3: more than that homie like yo, like like it's more

1250
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 3: than Luke Skywalker would never do that homie that is

1251
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 3: making react that way, you know, you know, let alone

1252
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 3: what people might be like in real life, like to

1253
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 3: me and mean to people you love, or people in

1254
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 3: your proximity at work and shit, and and it's all

1255
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 3: stemming off of this possible you know, you could be

1256
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 3: just misdiagnosed. You could or never diagnosed at all. You

1257
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 3: could be dealing with depression and not recognizing it because

1258
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 3: you're like, I'm angry. I'm not depressed, you know, I

1259
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 3: don't know. It's just something to think about, it is.

1260
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 3: Uh So, yeah.

1261
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 4: Good luck to everybody. You know.

1262
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 3: Hopefully that helps somebody may raise some awareness or something.

1263
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 3: Maybe you know somebody that's angry all the time and

1264
01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 3: you're like, nigga, you are depressed and he talked to

1265
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 3: somebody I don't know.

1266
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 5: You know, mm hmmm, right, Like like somebody chatman say

1267
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 5: they think everybody needs therapy at some point in their

1268
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 5: life and it should be free.

1269
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 4: Agree, Yeah, I mean all black people should get free.

1270
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 4: If you're black in America, you should get it for free.

1271
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 5: It's just trauma. It's just a lot that happens.

1272
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 4: Yeah. Uh, let's see what else.

1273
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 3: Let's get into some uh some fucking with black people,

1274
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 3: guys with black people music. No, no, none of these

1275
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 3: is about being black. Nice try, cair Nice fucking try.

1276
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 4: I'm still being We're just fucking with those black people.

1277
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 4: We're just fucking with those blacks.

1278
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 5: We're just fucking with fucking with black people.

1279
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 3: That's right, guys, Time to play the game we all

1280
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 3: hate to play. It's fucking with black people, the game

1281
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 3: that goes all around the globe.

1282
01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 4: Make him real.

1283
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 3: Funk with the sign and we'll points for Jill two

1284
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 3: one hundred and intervals of twenty five today's contestants. Everybody,

1285
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 3: all right, seeh's fucking with us today? Guys Howard University

1286
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 3: of lum Diddy and jay Z launching new black owned

1287
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 3: apps showing love to black friendly businesses in any given city.

1288
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 3: Oh wow, you corporate this capitalist slime.

1289
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 4: So y'all really gonna encourage black.

1290
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 3: People to go be unwilling victims of black capitalists.

1291
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 4: That's gonna gouge the prices on them for being black.

1292
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 3: I'm only your shit, Sean Cory Carter, you ain't slick

1293
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 3: with that bullshit. This is exactly what's the problem with you. Okay,

1294
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 3: you're gonna gentrify the apps. Now, you're gonna gentrify people's phones.

1295
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 4: I hate you.

1296
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 5: I like this because sometimes, you know, you'd be like

1297
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 5: I want to be, you know, go where the black

1298
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 5: people are.

1299
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm mm hmm. That's because he got you food car.

1300
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 5: Well, then I'm a sucker.

1301
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 4: Uh there's one thing.

1302
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 3: We all know about Sean Ditty cohonsa that he when

1303
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 3: he even he isn't working, he's working.

1304
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 4: His new endeavor is another shorter motivational however.

1305
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 3: Uh GQ magazine interviewed Howard University alumnn and his business

1306
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 3: partner Jay Z last year in March to discuss their

1307
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 3: partnership with a new app that is Black Owned, the

1308
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 3: show that shows love the black friendly businesses in any

1309
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 3: given city did.

1310
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 4: He said, This is not about.

1311
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 3: Taking away from any other community. We'll still go to Chinatown,

1312
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 3: We'll still buy Gucci, he laughed. But the application will

1313
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 3: make it possible for us to have an economic community.

1314
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 4: It's about black staining economic power.

1315
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 3: He and Jay Z have been talking about this, he said,

1316
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 3: about moving the race for actively by means of making

1317
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 3: a lot of money and putting it back into the community. Interesting,

1318
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 3: But uh, I heard jay Z was a coon and

1319
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 3: was encouraging people to uh to be to use capitalism

1320
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 3: to destroy the community.

1321
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 4: So huh, I guess it's off brand anyway. Karen zero

1322
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 4: two hundred zero.

1323
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 3: I give it to zero as well. I was not

1324
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 3: fucked with it all.

1325
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 4: M Let's see what else we got.

1326
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 3: A man was sentenced to ten years for attempting to

1327
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 3: hire a hitman to kill a black neighbor.

1328
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 4: Oh.

1329
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 3: A white South Carolina man pleaded guilty to trying to

1330
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 3: hire a hitman from the klu klus Klan to kill

1331
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 3: a black neighbor has been sentenced to ten years of

1332
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 3: federal prison.

1333
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 5: Apparently it went wrong.

1334
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 4: I guess so must have not seen black clansmen.

1335
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 3: US District Judge Bruce Hayl Hendricks sennence twenty six year

1336
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 3: old brand named Lacroix on Thursday of the State Reporter.

1337
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 4: Hendrix ruled that Lacroix's offense.

1338
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 3: Qualified as a hate crime, but noted that the plan

1339
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 3: to have someone else killed was so serious she would

1340
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 3: have given him ten years even if race wasn't a factor.

1341
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 4: Ten years the maximum sentence for the offense.

1342
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,919
Speaker 3: She's like, this is so bad even if it wasn't.

1343
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 3: It was bad before it was racist, and then when

1344
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 3: they got racist, then this.

1345
01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 4: Shit got real, real bad ten years.

1346
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 3: It's one thing to think these thoughts, but it's a

1347
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 3: crying to undertake to do hard to another. Hendrix said,

1348
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 3: that still feels kind of soft that she said it.

1349
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 3: It's one thing to think about killing black people for

1350
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 3: no reason, but it's a whole nother other thing.

1351
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 4: I mean, who hasn't thought about killing the niggas?

1352
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, but you took it to the

1353
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 3: next level by actually picking up that phone.

1354
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 5: You didn't have to, Hendricks could have kept them thoughts

1355
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 5: to yourself.

1356
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 3: Hendrix ruling came after a spirited argument by LaCour's attorney,

1357
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 3: Federal Public Defender Eric Sodor Dohal, who said race didn't

1358
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 3: play a role. She said LaCour was trying to get

1359
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 3: rid of an extremely troublesome neighbor who happened to be

1360
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 3: African American.

1361
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 4: But then why do you hire the klan?

1362
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 3: I guess if you want somebody killed. The neighbor, identified

1363
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 3: only by the initials.

1364
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 4: F J FeMn mister Jones I hope not.

1365
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 3: Kept coming on the LEACROI it's property, trying to start

1366
01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 3: fights Freddick Jackson, Oh my god, that's what happened to him,

1367
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 3: and asking for food. He kept coming on to Lacory's property,

1368
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 3: starting fights and asking for food and to use the phone.

1369
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 3: Lacoy have repeatedly tried to get local police to help

1370
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 3: to keep the nigger from trespassing, but to no avail,

1371
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 3: she said, but fj kept coming back, so that y'all said,

1372
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:20,919
Speaker 3: It's not about overriding feeling towards the race.

1373
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 4: It's about one individual. I didn't want to kill niggers.

1374
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 4: I wanted to kill that nigger.

1375
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 3: Okay, that one. It's not a hate crime so much,

1376
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 3: and that I hate black people. It's a hate crime,

1377
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 3: and that I hate that black motherfucker.

1378
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 4: Right there, your honor, you gotta let me go.

1379
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 3: Finally, in desperation as the police wouldn't act like, Corey

1380
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 3: went on to the internet and found in Western South

1381
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 3: Carolina area code for a local KKK chapter.

1382
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 4: This is almost worse than being racist. I'm sorry. Even

1383
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 4: if he not racist, this is worse.

1384
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 3: He like, I'm not racist, but who else is gonna

1385
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 3: kill a nigga besides the clan all they had a

1386
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 3: few options.

1387
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 4: The police wouldn't do it. I kept calling.

1388
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 3: I thought they specialized in this, they could, they kept paying.

1389
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 4: You know how hard I look at the internet every day.

1390
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 4: How hard is to get a nigga killed out of

1391
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 4: the cops. I mean, Jesus Christ, I see a case

1392
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 4: every day.

1393
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 3: You think you think it wasn't happened two to three

1394
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 3: hours apart? I mean you just what the what is

1395
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 3: happening here? I gotta get out. I'm gonna call the clan.

1396
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, I do it myself, one a hundred declan, Yes,

1397
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 3: I need some help.

1398
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 4: Branded call KKK because who else is going to call?

1399
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 3: Said his lawyer. It has nothing to do with the color'scared, Yo, Yo,

1400
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 3: Why would I ever want to be a defense lawyer?

1401
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 3: See this is the thing y'all negroes.

1402
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 4: Y'all wokes don't talk about.

1403
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,639
Speaker 3: Y'all always like to talk about the innocent black people

1404
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 3: getting jammed by system, and I agree on those, But

1405
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 3: what about when it defends got to defend the klan man?

1406
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 4: And you up there telling me who else is gonna call?

1407
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 4: I mean the KKK. The only people you know the

1408
01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 4: killing niggas, and they really they try to.

1409
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 3: That out as a defense and I'm supposed to be like, yeah,

1410
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 3: I don't want to come out of the Lock him up,

1411
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 3: lock his.

1412
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 5: Ass, lock him up, lock him up. Uh.

1413
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 3: She also told the judge that Lacroix had been bullied

1414
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 3: and beaten by his father from the time.

1415
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 4: Oh oh, oh, here we go.

1416
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 5: What did that got to do? What you call him

1417
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 5: the klan, sir?

1418
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 3: So listen, he got whoopings? So, I mean sometimes you

1419
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 3: got a call.

1420
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:28,719
Speaker 4: Klan on like what everybody got whoopings, sir? Just the South,

1421
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 4: every right down here, I got a whooping. We got

1422
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 4: all called the clan to killing niggas. That would be

1423
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 4: the best twist of the stories.

1424
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 3: He was black, too, dumb. I mean, we know he's white,

1425
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 3: but that would be the best twist of it. Was like,

1426
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 3: I listen, I am black myself. I don't hate black people.

1427
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 4: I hate tyrone.

1428
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 3: Okay, come on, house, ain't know my chicken.

1429
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 4: He's us my goddamn phone.

1430
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 5: He's staring at my white know nobody else that would

1431
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 5: do their job better than a clan.

1432
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 4: He's staring at my wife's booty.

1433
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know the call to the All right,

1434
01:09:58,600 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 3: I don't do that internet shit.

1435
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 4: I just called one hundred declan and asked him killing it.

1436
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 5: Like nobody said he looked through the yellow pages?

1437
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, how did he get caught? How did he find

1438
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 4: any number?

1439
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 3: Good grief, Like, what the fuck happened that you that

1440
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 3: somehow you got caught with that shit? That's that's ridiculous.

1441
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I wonder what that phone call was like.

1442
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 4: You know, but my mouth to God's ears.

1443
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,759
Speaker 3: I really hate those nigga rats and anyone else.

1444
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 5: Really that doesn't have pure white Arian blood running through

1445
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 5: their veins. I'm happy to be talking about true white America.

1446
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 4: God bless white America.

1447
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:40,759
Speaker 7: With the red white man.

1448
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 4: We can do anything.

1449
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's not that weird. Jesus Christ, you're

1450
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 3: out of the fact that you reached out to the KKK.

1451
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 3: This is not a low functioning individual, said Watkin's assisting

1452
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 3: US attorney is telling that to get a black person

1453
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 3: living that he turned to the KKK.

1454
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 4: Right. I just don't see why his racist he called

1455
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:05,480
Speaker 4: the KKK. You can't what his lawyers.

1456
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,440
Speaker 5: Like, is this KKK on us?

1457
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 4: Right?

1458
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 3: His lawyers really like your honor, don't get caught up

1459
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 3: on that bullshit about the KKK. Okay, that don't make

1460
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 3: him a racist because he wants a black person to

1461
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 3: killed by the KKK. He doesn't call a biker game.

1462
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 3: What he had in mind for his neighbor was very specific.

1463
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 3: He targeted him because of his race. He also can

1464
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 3: be heard using racist language, making references to historically violent

1465
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 3: KKK symbols and the secret audio recordings that law Enforce's

1466
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 3: officials made.

1467
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 4: He said.

1468
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 3: La Cory also suggested to the undercover agent posting that

1469
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 3: the KKK.

1470
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 4: Hitman that he could use a flaming cross.

1471
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,839
Speaker 5: I was set up your honor, which wasn't always their symbol.

1472
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 4: What kind of Marion Berry ass shit? Was this? A bitch?

1473
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 4: Set me up?

1474
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 5: A bit, set me up?

1475
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 4: Jesus Christ, this motherfucker.

1476
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 3: Lacoy pleaded guilty last fall to being part of a

1477
01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 3: murder plot for hire. He was dressing an oversized orange

1478
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 3: jump supent court. Uh As lawyer said LaCour was too

1479
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 3: nervous to speak, but he wanted to judge everyone. Well,

1480
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 3: you weren't too nervous when he was on the fucking phone, racist,

1481
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 3: you wanted everyone know you regretted his actions and apologize

1482
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 3: for him.

1483
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 4: Word mm hmmm, mm hmm.

1484
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 3: Wow, that's crazy. And I shout out to that judge,

1485
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 3: a woman named Bruce.

1486
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 4: Never seen that before. Zero tie hundred can zero?

1487
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I give it, uh, you know, but give it

1488
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,640
Speaker 3: a hundred, give it a hundred. I'm fucked with his

1489
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 3: nigga called the Klan and was like, I'm still not racist.

1490
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:40,719
Speaker 3: This just goes back to my motherfucking point.

1491
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 4: What does a white person have to do to be racist?

1492
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 5: Nothing? Nothing is racist nowadays.

1493
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 3: That motherfucker called the Klan to kill a black person,

1494
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 3: called them in racial slurs on the phone, and as

1495
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 3: they use racist symbolism in killing the black man, and

1496
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 3: still was like, I'm not racist, y'all, honor, Okay, we

1497
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 3: all havest. We all have bad days, you know, we

1498
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 3: none of us are our worst day. Get out of here,

1499
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,600
Speaker 3: all right. Last one, Virginia E.

1500
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 4: MT.

1501
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 3: That's an emergency medical technician who made racist remarks on

1502
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 3: a white supremacist podcast.

1503
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 4: Lose his job. Good?

1504
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that guy's come come to your house after you

1505
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:24,719
Speaker 3: had a heart attack.

1506
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 4: You just never know.

1507
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 5: I will start investigating anybody like if they died and

1508
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 5: for real and go in and be like Hey, you know,

1509
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 5: did these people down your watch? Did you fall uproper procedure?

1510
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 4: Patrick McNabb is his name.

1511
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,799
Speaker 3: He's been let go by Jeb Stewart Rescue Squad months

1512
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 3: after racist comments surface on the podcast and which you

1513
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 3: compare black patients to gorillas and claim to take immense

1514
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:50,759
Speaker 3: satisfaction as he terrorized an African American boy with a needle.

1515
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 4: That's what I say.

1516
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:54,719
Speaker 5: I would go back through his files.

1517
01:13:56,479 --> 01:14:00,040
Speaker 3: So glad they got him, obviously, but I have I

1518
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,639
Speaker 3: have to ask what made him think to do this.

1519
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 3: Let me go on a racist podcast and talk about

1520
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 3: my job and admit that I'm literally terrorizing the community

1521
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 3: of black people when i'm called. But how did you

1522
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 3: expect that to go in the podcasts?

1523
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 5: And nobody to recognized you because you probably went into

1524
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 5: details about it, and people some of us say, hey,

1525
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 5: I know who that is.

1526
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 4: You put that out to the world.

1527
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 5: The world dog, holy shit to the world, Craig.

1528
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1529
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 3: Wren Williams, attorney for Patrick County Virginia Rescue Squad, set

1530
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 3: a statement from the board saying, during executive accessions, the

1531
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 3: pros and cons and miss McNab's continued relationship with the

1532
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 3: squad were discussed, a legal opinion from outside legal council

1533
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 3: was shared among the board members, and the board members

1534
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:52,679
Speaker 3: shared their personal thoughts. The board did not state exactly

1535
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 3: why fire mingnaw, but it did so after discussions in

1536
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 3: the executive session on Sunday. The squad plays McNab on

1537
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 3: unpaid leave in December, two days after news reports of

1538
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 3: his comments surface on pay I mean now said it's

1539
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 3: his First Amendment rights to say things he has said,

1540
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 3: and that it was all said while he was pretending

1541
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:14,679
Speaker 3: to be a fictional character he created name doctor Narkhan.

1542
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 3: He's not responded to seeing in for a request for

1543
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 3: comment last month, he was clear or wrong doing by

1544
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 3: Virginia Department of Health and investigations and focused solely on

1545
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 3: whether any alleged violations of Virginia's EMS regulations have occurred.

1546
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 3: Those regulations stipulate the EMS personnel may not discriminate based

1547
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 3: on race genders, saying after two months investigation in which

1548
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,759
Speaker 3: fellow employees were interviewed and the patient care and patient

1549
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 3: care was investigated the department, the Health Department said it

1550
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 3: determined there was there's no substantial evidence to support any

1551
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:43,680
Speaker 3: violation of the.

1552
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 5: Regulations access to the black people he terrorized.

1553
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 3: So it looks like they did well, you know what,

1554
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 3: I don't know if they did or not. They're the

1555
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:54,720
Speaker 3: claiming they investigated patient care, But what does that mean?

1556
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:56,640
Speaker 4: Did you talk to the patients or do you just

1557
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 4: say it like none of these you know.

1558
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:03,759
Speaker 3: I began investigative McNab last year after receiving anonymous complaints

1559
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 3: about him using racist and anti Semitic rhetoric on social media.

1560
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 3: The complaints expressed concerns he could be harming the mistreating

1561
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 3: patients of color.

1562
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 4: So yeah, he.

1563
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:17,719
Speaker 3: Was also on his Twitter and whatever, telling people, telling

1564
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 3: on himself. McNab thirty five was a part time mt

1565
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 3: has commented frequently on White Supremaces podcast called The Daily.

1566
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 4: Show A show I don't know.

1567
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 3: McNabb has been a frequent co host of the podcast,

1568
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 3: who's title mocks the Holocaust. The comments with McNab later

1569
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 3: claimed on Twitter would be a work of fiction, ignited

1570
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 3: a debate on whether he could render adequate head to

1571
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 3: vulnerable minority in Jewish.

1572
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 4: Let me tell you something. I don't want to have

1573
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:44,760
Speaker 4: to debate it.

1574
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 5: That's why they got rid of demons, Like, no, we

1575
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 5: don't want with these problems.

1576
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 3: Why would it need to be debated. That's the fucking

1577
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 3: problem right there. Well, I welcome you to a rigorous debate,

1578
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 3: good sir. And when you show up. If I cut

1579
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:00,839
Speaker 3: my arm and this guy shows up and he's like, well, Sarah,

1580
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:02,640
Speaker 3: before I minised the first aid, I'd just like to

1581
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 3: let you know I hate niggas. Just kidding, this joke,

1582
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:08,640
Speaker 3: just a character I played doctor knockhar anyway, let me

1583
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 3: go ahead and see your arm.

1584
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 4: No I think you're gonna kill me.

1585
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 3: Well, sir, it's my first amendment, right, and I love

1586
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 3: the debate it with you right now, if you got

1587
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 3: time while you're bleeding out fuck that.

1588
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 4: No, you just don't get to do this job. Cool.

1589
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:27,679
Speaker 3: So many people in dangerous positions and harboring horrible judgment

1590
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 3: by telling this shit in public, and horrible uh and horrible.

1591
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:33,640
Speaker 4: Like feelings by believing.

1592
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 5: These things agreed.

1593
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 4: Wow.

1594
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 3: The fact that they investigated him for a year whatever

1595
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 3: before firing him, it's crazy. Seemed like it would be immediate, like,

1596
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:46,759
Speaker 3: oh you said that on social media, You're gone.

1597
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 5: I might be wrong, but I gotta feel And they

1598
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 5: thought it was gonna go away. The shit didn't go away.

1599
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 5: It was like, you got to go.

1600
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 4: He kept doing the podcasts and shit right right.

1601
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 5: If he would have just shut the fuck up, he

1602
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 5: could have kept his job. But he kept on. It

1603
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 5: was like no, no, no, no, no, you got to go.

1604
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:03,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a coyl guy suspended on Twitter. So

1605
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:05,639
Speaker 3: good job, Jack, you finally get one.

1606
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 4: Got one. Uh.

1607
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 3: He did not comment directly to see and then, but

1608
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 3: beyond indicating a tweet that he was undergoing a character

1609
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 3: assassination attempt. You played a character that was racist, and

1610
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 3: you have a job that serves the public quote unquote,

1611
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 3: And that's if you believe he served the character. In

1612
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 3: one podcast from October fourth, twenty sixteen, first reported by

1613
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 3: The Huffing and Post, McNab tells an emergency call. It

1614
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 3: tells him an emergency call to what he characterizes a

1615
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:34,639
Speaker 3: black apartment complex that met it is called Ebola Alley.

1616
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 4: Using the doctor n con persona, he refers to a.

1617
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:40,680
Speaker 3: Black woman as a shade to romby the name of

1618
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 3: the famous gorilla, though McNab has maintained his words were

1619
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:47,720
Speaker 3: all part of a fictional story. At describing a diabetic

1620
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 3: er patient and the doctor who collects toenails, he told

1621
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:52,639
Speaker 3: his podcast co hosts in twenty sixteen.

1622
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 4: Both those stories are real.

1623
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 3: Later in the same podcast, and a doctor Narkhan story

1624
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 3: that McNabb doesn't label his factor fiction speaks on an

1625
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 3: unruly young African American male child who needed to have

1626
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 3: blood drawn. So guess who volunteered to take his blood?

1627
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 3: Doctor Knakhan enjoyed great immense satisfaction as he terrorized this

1628
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 3: youngster with a needle stabbed him, thus laying the arm

1629
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 3: with a large gauge nine I guess, I don't know

1630
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 3: four catheter. In an interview conducted by the Virginia Department

1631
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 3: of Health investigator, mc nab was asked if he had

1632
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 3: done anything intentionally, unintentionally that can be construed as discriminating

1633
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 3: the patient care. He was find absolutely not extremely vocal

1634
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 3: about how this would not ever be something that would happen.

1635
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:36,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, get him the fuck out of here. He should

1636
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 4: go to jail. Correct, that should be illegal. What he did.

1637
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 4: That's crazy. A one hundred for me, this one, yes, hundred, Yeah,

1638
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 4: gotta give it a hundred.

1639
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 3: All right, let's get into let's get into some guests

1640
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:55,759
Speaker 3: to race guy. Let's do a little something fun. Okay,

1641
01:19:58,000 --> 01:19:59,839
Speaker 3: I thiggas say, you're playing a racist character.

1642
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 6: Now that it is time for some guests stor race.

1643
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 6: That's right, it's guests stor race time. Now that it

1644
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:11,759
Speaker 6: is time for some guest st the race.

1645
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 4: That's right, this guest star race time. That's right, it's

1646
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:19,679
Speaker 4: time for guest the Race.

1647
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:22,799
Speaker 3: The number one play game going across all the podcast

1648
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:27,640
Speaker 3: land where people listen to or we read articles and

1649
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 3: then they guests the race of the people involved, and

1650
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 3: today's no exception, and of course care plays along and

1651
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 3: she and the rest of you guys are racist, and

1652
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 3: the chat room plays as well. Let's see parents go

1653
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 3: to uh wait, then we do this, parents go to

1654
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 3: court to kick their son out of the house.

1655
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, we did this. I'm sorry.

1656
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:52,639
Speaker 3: I was trying to get through some of these old

1657
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 3: ones and uh yeah, I remember this story.

1658
01:20:57,640 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 4: All right?

1659
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 3: How about this one the case against the ex order

1660
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 3: Nate Kane, the ex wife and a ledge rip off.

1661
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 4: Of what is this over?

1662
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1663
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 4: Prison to move forward.

1664
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 3: Wait, we covered this as well, but we were just

1665
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 3: talking about the corruption of it, not the All right,

1666
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 3: let's try another one. How about I'm gonna scroll all

1667
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 3: the way down and get this one. Uh oh, Walworth

1668
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 3: County officials use a drone to catch a fleeing suspect.

1669
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 3: Walworth County officials utilize a drone with thermal imaging technology

1670
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 3: to track down a fleeing suspect in Lake Geneva, According

1671
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 3: to Lake Geneva Police Department, shortly after one am, officers

1672
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:39,479
Speaker 3: were called the Sugar Shack Club County Highway h for

1673
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:42,719
Speaker 3: a large fight that broke out hit a shack. Yeah,

1674
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 3: it's a large fight at the Sugar Shack. Sounds like

1675
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:46,880
Speaker 3: shit wasn't sweet.

1676
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 5: That's not like a bang of barbecue joint.

1677
01:21:58,720 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

1678
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 3: So yeah, they did the altercation, Officials say twenty six

1679
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 3: year old Tyler Bohot of Saint Joseph, Missouri fled to

1680
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 3: the scene in a pickup truck. Officers gave pursuit, but

1681
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,799
Speaker 3: he got away. A short time later, he was located

1682
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:19,719
Speaker 3: in the town of Lend, where deputies from the County

1683
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 3: Sheriff's office gave pursuit.

1684
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 4: Once again.

1685
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:25,640
Speaker 3: A City of Lake City of Lake Geneva officer was

1686
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 3: able to successfully deploy stop sticks.

1687
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 4: On the road they put out or whatever. Yeah, So

1688
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:37,879
Speaker 4: then Bohat fled the vehicle.

1689
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:42,599
Speaker 3: Officers tracked him fleeing eastbound by footprints in the snow

1690
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 3: and sent tracking by Walworth County Sheriff's Officer K nine.

1691
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 3: The K nine officers authorities then deployed the drone where

1692
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 3: he signature technology.

1693
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 4: And with their minutes they located him. Damn, they're not

1694
01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 4: playing with these drones.

1695
01:22:58,160 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 3: Dog.

1696
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 4: He was found unconscious in a wooded area. How was

1697
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 4: he unconscious? What he's taking?

1698
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 5: Got a run into something? Running like you know you?

1699
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was taking in the custry without incident. Treated

1700
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:13,719
Speaker 3: at the hospital and booked in jail.

1701
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:15,640
Speaker 4: Uh he was.

1702
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 3: He was charged for operating the motor vehicle while toss

1703
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 3: kate it. So, all right, can guess the race of

1704
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 3: Tyler bohat white. Kar's going with white. Let's check the

1705
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 3: chat room and see what you guys believe.

1706
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 4: Black.

1707
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 3: He was too fast to catch on feet. White technology

1708
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 3: can't to take black people.

1709
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 4: So white.

1710
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 3: Uh, it's good, Joe White, says Trey. All right, looks

1711
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 3: like most of the guesses are that's all the guests

1712
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 3: are gonna get white.

1713
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 4: White.

1714
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 3: The correct answer is white. A couple of you did

1715
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 3: miss it, though, I thought we would have got a

1716
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 3: black first. For the fact he got away at night.

1717
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 3: But okay, he was white.

1718
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 5: You gotta right, Hare got a long face.

1719
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 3: He does have a wade a long face, buddy. Oh man,

1720
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:33,639
Speaker 3: let's see what else happens happening here? Uh? A four

1721
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:39,600
Speaker 3: year old was rescued from an alleged.

1722
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:42,720
Speaker 4: What was alleged Texas.

1723
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:46,720
Speaker 3: Drug house, where he told the police that rats and

1724
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:48,520
Speaker 3: roaches were his friends.

1725
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 4: What Yeah, So when you.

1726
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 3: Know life ain't going too good when you gotta have

1727
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:01,640
Speaker 3: rats and as as your friends, Like.

1728
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 4: Damn, I bit the hell up? I know.

1729
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:26,679
Speaker 7: H the two of us need no more.

1730
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 4: We bo, I wonder if that's what?

1731
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 3: That's what that's where the song came from. A four

1732
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 3: year old Texas boy is now protecting because you have

1733
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 3: to be a rescued from a report reputed drug house

1734
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 3: where he was allegedly forced to live inside of a

1735
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 3: closet with his only visitors the rests and cockroaches that

1736
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 3: infested the dilapidated home.

1737
01:25:53,840 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's ah, that's unfortunate. Now that that's your friend.

1738
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:07,519
Speaker 3: The boy's coreter pointed attorney tells people he told her

1739
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 3: authorities who found him that the past were his friends.

1740
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 4: It reminds you of the eighty five South song.

1741
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:23,320
Speaker 3: I remember seeing the roads that kind he was burning

1742
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 3: looking at me, like.

1743
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:35,680
Speaker 2: Raise some raid on the roads and the hood and

1744
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 2: then don't do them no good.

1745
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 4: They just be like, nigga, now I'm win. Don't stay

1746
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 4: and sit on me because I'm going to the bell.

1747
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 4: Put some old under the toilet. You gonna have a

1748
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 4: roach party.

1749
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:51,679
Speaker 2: And I answer, crumbs that you dropped fairly up from

1750
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 2: the kitchen that when under the fridge or raiding my baby,

1751
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 2: and Mama said he was mad at me. Up the

1752
01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 2: crumbs out the crawley and got some here you gothoms

1753
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 2: at the prib in that we didn't get the honey coach.

1754
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 4: Roaches was part of the kind of everything you drop,

1755
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:11,720
Speaker 4: they gonna eat it up.

1756
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 3: My ge.

1757
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 4: Yes, they roach just keep your house clean. Yet they

1758
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 4: keep your house roaches your house clean. They mean like

1759
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 4: you dropped some body. Hey my nigga, I got it.

1760
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 5: They be like you dropped, but hey, my nigga, I

1761
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 5: got it.

1762
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 3: You dropped some of Hey my nigga, I got it.

1763
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:34,560
Speaker 5: You drop Hey my nigga.

1764
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 4: I got it.

1765
01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 3: Roach roast your your roach in your roats on your pastywhere.

1766
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 4: Roll roach.

1767
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 3: I feel like that's what that kid was going through

1768
01:27:56,360 --> 01:28:00,120
Speaker 3: every day. Come on, he said, that's his friends.

1769
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:01,759
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1770
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:04,720
Speaker 3: So then the course, the boy's court appointed attorney tells

1771
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:07,559
Speaker 3: people the boy told authorities who founded the pest of

1772
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:09,920
Speaker 3: his friends. Considering the circumstances, he is doing good, says

1773
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:10,880
Speaker 3: Rachel Lee Hudson.

1774
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 5: I couldn't imagine him having to shake him down and

1775
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:15,759
Speaker 5: shooting with a fucking water holes.

1776
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, he had.

1777
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 3: They're trying to ensure he has a normal life as possible.

1778
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 3: Authorities alleged the Houston house where they found the boy

1779
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 3: was used to manufacturing myth distribute methomphetamine. Officers raided the home,

1780
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 3: finding the locked closet door on the child inside. Lil

1781
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 3: Hudson tells, yeah, it tells people. It is not known

1782
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:37,759
Speaker 3: how long the boy was in the closet. She alleged

1783
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:39,639
Speaker 3: that he was sometimes left for hours at a time.

1784
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 3: His thirty two year old mother, April Barrier, was not

1785
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:44,600
Speaker 3: in the house at the time of the raid, of

1786
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:46,720
Speaker 3: course not She was arrested when she returned home and

1787
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 3: was charging in dangering a child. It was unclear Wednesday

1788
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:52,559
Speaker 3: if she had entered the plea, took the charge, or

1789
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 3: had an attorney who would comment on her behalf. She's

1790
01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:59,520
Speaker 3: being held for nine about a bell uh. The authorities

1791
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 3: say that was alleged owner Daniel Clark Morris. The third

1792
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 3: remains at large and that asking the public's help in

1793
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:07,679
Speaker 3: finding him. Police alleged the drug pair Renelian sex toys

1794
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:11,559
Speaker 3: are found right outside the closet. The boy also alleged

1795
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 3: authorities he was forced to sit on top of a

1796
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 3: tall refrigerator's punishment for sneaking out of that closet. He

1797
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:18,360
Speaker 3: said he was afraid he would fall asleep and plumbing

1798
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:21,439
Speaker 3: to the floor. The boy's father is allegedly trying to

1799
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 3: regain cussy of the child, but attempts to reach father

1800
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 3: were unsuccessful.

1801
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 4: Karen gets the race of his mama and do own

1802
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 4: the house.

1803
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 5: Oh everybody's white.

1804
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:36,720
Speaker 3: Karen's going everybody's white. Let's chake the chat room and

1805
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:41,920
Speaker 3: see what you guys believe white, says Marlene. And she said, meth,

1806
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 3: that's white. Thanks, Lord could be his spanded, but I'm

1807
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:46,559
Speaker 3: gonna go fix her up for white.

1808
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:49,679
Speaker 4: Seek with to Kwanme Mills. First book, this was called

1809
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 4: This Whole Got Rats in Her Crew two Black.

1810
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 3: I think that is a sequel like This Whole Guy

1811
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 3: Rot interracts the call Cassidy whole white, white Joe's apartment

1812
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:02,639
Speaker 3: now crack being white, poor white baby, hot, damn mess

1813
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 3: happy crystal, methemats white chalk and white methy white Martha.

1814
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 4: The correct answer is white. Everyone got it right.

1815
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:26,960
Speaker 3: They'd be like, you dropped somebody. Hey, my nigga, I

1816
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:27,679
Speaker 3: got it.

1817
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:30,599
Speaker 4: That's a jam man. Boy's challenged.

1818
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the mom right there, Lee uh whatever.

1819
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 5: Her name was April, and that was locked in the closet,

1820
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:41,799
Speaker 5: probably working outside the sex.

1821
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 3: Toys outside the door with a kid in the closet.

1822
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 3: And then that's the homeowner they're looking for. Oh yeah,

1823
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:53,320
Speaker 3: I don't know if they're gonna be able to see him.

1824
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 5: I don't know. He's looking in all the directions.

1825
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:57,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't want to cross him, if you know

1826
01:30:57,640 --> 01:30:59,880
Speaker 4: what I mean. It's got a.

1827
01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:02,559
Speaker 5: M hm.

1828
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 4: Anyway, let's get.

1829
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 5: To I can't catch me see him coming for any

1830
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:12,960
Speaker 5: direction older directions.

1831
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:26,280
Speaker 4: All right, let's go to the boss round and the

1832
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 4: race double.

1833
01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:33,240
Speaker 3: And the race that's right double, the pois double the

1834
01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:34,840
Speaker 3: race and the bonus round to guess the race.

1835
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:36,920
Speaker 4: So far, Caring is two for two.

1836
01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 3: But let's see if she can finish on a strong

1837
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 3: note and go three for three, the very rare caring

1838
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:45,639
Speaker 3: three for three.

1839
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:50,479
Speaker 4: All right, we'll see if you can do it. Chocolate

1840
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:51,679
Speaker 4: and blood all over.

1841
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:54,840
Speaker 3: An off duty New York City cop goes on a

1842
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:57,560
Speaker 3: rampage in the Connecticut Godava shop.

1843
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:00,519
Speaker 4: Mm HM.

1844
01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:03,960
Speaker 3: A video of an incident at a Godava shop in

1845
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:06,840
Speaker 3: Stanford Town Center and Stanford, Connecticut, shows a woman who

1846
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 3: identified herself as a New York City police officer threatening

1847
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 3: violence against employees. There's a lot of pressure to have

1848
01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:14,920
Speaker 3: at chocolate.

1849
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:19,040
Speaker 5: Come on that chokla good do though to Stanford just

1850
01:32:19,080 --> 01:32:21,680
Speaker 5: last five dollars a bar, according.

1851
01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:22,400
Speaker 4: To the Stanford Advocate.

1852
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 3: Amanda Villa Villa Fayne Villa Fame, a thirty year old

1853
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:32,000
Speaker 3: probationary officer, became enraged after she, her mother, and her

1854
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:34,519
Speaker 3: companion were forced to open the door to the shop,

1855
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:35,600
Speaker 3: courting employees.

1856
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:37,599
Speaker 4: The door was closed because they were preparing to close

1857
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:37,960
Speaker 4: the store.

1858
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:41,360
Speaker 3: In the video, Villa Faye takes off her jacket as

1859
01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:43,760
Speaker 3: though she was going to start fighting someone due to

1860
01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:45,559
Speaker 3: the perceived disrespect to her mother.

1861
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:48,800
Speaker 4: As tensions escalate, Villa Fane could be her.

1862
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 3: Saying I will knock you the fuck out to one

1863
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 3: of the employees. When the officer and her companion, Christopher

1864
01:32:55,160 --> 01:33:00,479
Speaker 3: Salvatore of staaten Allen, noticed route given as the brother

1865
01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:03,719
Speaker 3: of one of the employees, was filming, Salvatory pushed them.

1866
01:33:04,439 --> 01:33:10,360
Speaker 3: According to the Stanford Police Sergeant Robert Showinsky, officers found

1867
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:12,479
Speaker 3: chocolate and blood all over the floor.

1868
01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:15,679
Speaker 4: Uh.

1869
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:18,640
Speaker 3: When they arrived on the scene, Villa Fame was reportedly

1870
01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:20,639
Speaker 3: taken to the ground and handcuff due to her rage

1871
01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:24,920
Speaker 3: and her arresting officers. She was charge of resisting arrest, threatening,

1872
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:29,520
Speaker 3: criminal trespass, criminal michiev and the oily conduct. Salvatory received

1873
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:31,000
Speaker 3: similar charges.

1874
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:34,720
Speaker 5: Well, I know she'd she would have whooped the uppers

1875
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:37,680
Speaker 5: as that she would have lost the Uh uh if

1876
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:39,719
Speaker 5: you did day to put out at the chocolate factory,

1877
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:47,080
Speaker 5: what do you do and ship on your mom and

1878
01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:48,559
Speaker 5: they came out to dance, and she would have gave

1879
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:50,439
Speaker 5: everybody the business good grave.

1880
01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's that's a that's some high pressure sales

1881
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:57,000
Speaker 3: right there. Come on, Oh, let me see if I

1882
01:33:57,000 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 3: can find her picture, because uh, the thing I was

1883
01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:06,080
Speaker 3: looking at wasn't showing her picture like they took the

1884
01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:11,000
Speaker 3: video down. But I think okay, I got it. All right, Karen,

1885
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:12,200
Speaker 3: guess the race of this woman?

1886
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 4: White? Okay, Karen's going with white. Let's check the chat room.

1887
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:17,560
Speaker 4: See what I believe.

1888
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:24,439
Speaker 3: Connecticut Godiva chocolate shop police officer equals Scott Island, New

1889
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:27,960
Speaker 3: York white. I will take back go Diva with chocolate

1890
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:33,280
Speaker 3: and blood. Caucassist Tarka.

1891
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:39,280
Speaker 4: Aw the white racket, y'all.

1892
01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:46,760
Speaker 3: Oh man, I don't know why that just maybe last

1893
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:53,360
Speaker 3: sor oh my god, uh this white white, white white.

1894
01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:54,680
Speaker 4: Everybody's going with white on.

1895
01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 6: This one.

1896
01:34:56,880 --> 01:35:01,960
Speaker 4: Man? Let me, oh, this is so guys, you know what,

1897
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:17,639
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with white, Karen? You got it now?

1898
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:20,000
Speaker 3: The reason I'm going with white because to me, she

1899
01:35:20,160 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 3: looks like she could be like Lautenanx or Latina or something.

1900
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:29,720
Speaker 3: But Staton Island, New York City, she she she could

1901
01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:30,679
Speaker 3: be a Italian one.

1902
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:33,880
Speaker 4: With a tan. I'm just not sure, you know what

1903
01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:34,280
Speaker 4: I mean.

1904
01:35:34,360 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 5: And when I'm not.

1905
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:37,160
Speaker 4: Sure, hey, why not give it to Karen. She can

1906
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:38,280
Speaker 4: finally go three for three?

1907
01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:38,760
Speaker 5: Come on?

1908
01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:42,280
Speaker 4: But you know she got y'all see it. She looked

1909
01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:44,080
Speaker 4: like she could be I think she might be like

1910
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:48,680
Speaker 4: Lieutenant Latina or something. But then in this picture like that,

1911
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:49,200
Speaker 4: I don't.

1912
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:51,360
Speaker 3: That's a picture to Bruce Willis, So I don't know

1913
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:55,120
Speaker 3: if uh, I don't know what's going on with that one.

1914
01:35:55,479 --> 01:35:58,240
Speaker 3: You know, he probably thought she was Michelle Rodriguez. I

1915
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:02,760
Speaker 3: think he probably racist. All right, so I'll just give

1916
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 3: it to you, Karen. Okay, close enough. All right, let's

1917
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:08,000
Speaker 3: go to the sword ratchetness and get out of here.

1918
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:11,679
Speaker 5: Ah, take it, take it and run.

1919
01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:36,800
Speaker 4: You need a win, I do. Yeah.

1920
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:41,439
Speaker 3: I wanna said, or Puerto Rican like j Lo. You know, yeah,

1921
01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:45,080
Speaker 3: I don't know, man. Plus, I don't know the rules

1922
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:48,479
Speaker 3: up there like Puerto Rican and Latina. They can say

1923
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:50,599
Speaker 3: nigga according to black people up in New York.

1924
01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:53,760
Speaker 4: So uh, you know, the game is all the game

1925
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 4: is all fucked up up there. I don't. I don't

1926
01:36:56,040 --> 01:36:56,599
Speaker 4: know the rules.

1927
01:36:57,160 --> 01:36:58,960
Speaker 5: The rules down here though.

1928
01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:01,280
Speaker 4: Y'all setting them up to get fucked up in Charlotte.

1929
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:03,920
Speaker 4: I don't know that much. But but but up there,

1930
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:09,799
Speaker 4: do you think Mount Holly, North Carolina, a nine one call.

1931
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:11,880
Speaker 3: Was released just moments before a man with a sword

1932
01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:15,080
Speaker 3: was killed and the officer involved shooting of Officials say

1933
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:17,040
Speaker 3: the man started a fire and jumped from the window

1934
01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:20,639
Speaker 3: of a home in Mount Holly, neighborhood Saturday morning, woman

1935
01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:22,439
Speaker 3: called to say her son, who may have been on

1936
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:24,720
Speaker 3: drugs like himself in the room, was pacing around. During

1937
01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:27,200
Speaker 3: a confrontation with the collin's husband, she says her son

1938
01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:29,880
Speaker 3: threatened to shoot her husband. The caller told nine one

1939
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:32,400
Speaker 3: operator she was unsure if there are any guns in

1940
01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:34,479
Speaker 3: the room, but believe there may have been knives in

1941
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:38,519
Speaker 3: another room upstairs. Officials responded to the scene when they

1942
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:41,280
Speaker 3: say the man identified Twoday's forty two year old Larry

1943
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:47,120
Speaker 3: Hoover Larry Hoover, oh shit Rick Ross reported reportedly started

1944
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:51,240
Speaker 3: a fight in a second story bedroom. First responders came

1945
01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:52,800
Speaker 3: to the scene said Hoover then jumped out of a

1946
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 3: window with the sword and ran away from the house.

1947
01:37:55,880 --> 01:37:58,120
Speaker 3: After jumping out the window, first sponder to say Hoover

1948
01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:00,280
Speaker 3: ran to another part of the neighborhood, where, going to

1949
01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:03,519
Speaker 3: the SBI, thirty three year old officer Lee Ferris fired

1950
01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:05,639
Speaker 3: his weapon. No details have been released about the moments

1951
01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:08,759
Speaker 3: that led to the shooting. Whover dotted the scene. Neighbor

1952
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Speaker 3: John Oakes said that he was listening to police scanners

1953
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Speaker 3: after he smelled smoke in the neighborhood to find out

1954
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:17,080
Speaker 3: what was going on. I heard somebody say that somebody

1955
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Speaker 3: had jumped out of a window with sores or something.

1956
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Speaker 4: Eleven year old Gabby.

1957
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Speaker 3: River, who lives in the neighborhood, said her mom saw well,

1958
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Speaker 3: she saw the smoke.

1959
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Speaker 4: She told Gabby not to go outside.

1960
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Speaker 3: Gabby said she was thinking about a girl who stays

1961
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Speaker 3: who says she says five or six years old, who

1962
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Speaker 3: she knows lives at the house because they ride the

1963
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Speaker 3: same bus to school. That was a girl that goes

1964
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Speaker 3: to my school, said Gabby. It's a tragic thing that happened,

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Speaker 3: said Bradley.

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Speaker 4: Crisp.

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Speaker 3: Oaks said he often listened to police scanner traffic but

1968
01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 3: was surprised by what he heard today. Never heard anything

1969
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Speaker 3: like it, so it sort of shocked me when I

1970
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Speaker 3: heard what was going on. No further injuries or reported

1971
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Speaker 3: at the scene. Wow, Well that's uh pretty wild man.

1972
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Speaker 3: Drugs and sores not a good combination out here. Guys,

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Speaker 3: watch yourselves.

1974
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Speaker 4: All right, we'll be back.

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Speaker 3: Tomorrow ready to do our recap of Game of Thrones.

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Speaker 3: Looking forward to it. Yes, thank you to everybody listening

1977
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Speaker 3: and supports us. And until next time. Oh and our

1978
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Speaker 3: Story Geeks podcast interview is up and I will be

1979
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Speaker 3: putting it on the premium feed tonight. I'm gonna just

1980
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Speaker 3: try to remind myself to do it tonight, and I

1981
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Speaker 3: should also be putting out a it's not a spormal review,

1982
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Speaker 3: but it's the review that I did with Chris Lamberth

1983
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Speaker 3: and Jail Covan for the Intruder. I'm gonna put it

1984
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Speaker 3: on our premium feed, so you guys can hear that

1985
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Speaker 3: that that review as well. So premium people, it's all

1986
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Speaker 3: coming up roses for you, baby, Okay, you pay it

1987
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Speaker 3: in on this and now you're reaping the benefits own

1988
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Speaker 3: John Wick and then John Wick later this week.

1989
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Speaker 4: All right, y'all, until then, I love you.

1990
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Speaker 6: Wh