Speaker 1: Broadcasting from the hip Hoplicly Studios. I'd like to welcome
Speaker 1: you back to another episode of Civic Cipher, where our
Speaker 1: mission is to foster allyship empathy and understanding. I am
Speaker 1: your host, Ramsey's job.
Speaker 2: He is Ramsey's job. I am q Ward. You are
Speaker 2: hopefully happily listening.
Speaker 1: To Civic Cipher. Yeah, I hope you are too. We
Speaker 1: have a great show in store for you. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of things that we want to talk about, and
Speaker 1: we will ultimately talk about, but this episode, we feel
Speaker 1: like that we've heard and seen so much nonsense online that.
Speaker 2: We're lots lots of misinformation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So we're going to take this episode and
Speaker 1: we're going to discuss the rights attack on Kamala Harris
Speaker 1: and decide whether or not that's well founded.
Speaker 2: I love hearing you say Kamala, not Kamala, as our
Speaker 2: former presidence says. I know that I mispronounced names wrong
Speaker 2: all the time. Not on purpose, though, yeah, but I
Speaker 2: feel like, yeah, he does it on purpose, He doesn't intentionally.
Speaker 2: All of us just pronounced people's names all the time.
Speaker 2: But I was going to get this one right. So
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the right has these really strange attacks on her,
Speaker 1: some of them really gross, some of them are just
Speaker 1: not They're unfounded.
Speaker 3: And unfortunately not all by the right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're going to share what those attacks are.
Speaker 1: And then for the second part of the show, we
Speaker 1: are going to discuss the black attack on Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1: And these are some things that you know, it's important
Speaker 1: for you to know about because there are some people
Speaker 1: who would listen to voices be critical of Kamala Harris
Speaker 1: if those voices were black voices, because then it removes
Speaker 1: the racial bias. So these are potential allies listening to
Speaker 1: their black black people they look up to, and if
Speaker 1: those black people are then critical of Kamala Harris, then
Speaker 1: those allies might think I should be critical of Kamala
Speaker 1: Harris too, And a lot of their arguments are unfounded
Speaker 1: as well. And so we're going to go through a
Speaker 1: lot of the things you might have seen online in
Speaker 1: today's episode. But before we get there, going to start off,
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Speaker 1: Talk to him, Okay, the rights attack attacks plural on
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris. So one of the things that we hear
Speaker 1: a lot is.
Speaker 3: What is her record as a politician?
Speaker 1: Now, I want to share with you something and putting
Speaker 1: together this episode, we took some content from social media,
Speaker 1: right because you've undoubtedly come across a lot of people
Speaker 1: sharing content talking about how Kamala Harris locks up black
Speaker 1: people for weed charges and how Kamala Harris is not
Speaker 1: black and all kinds of weird stuff, right, And I'll
Speaker 1: be honest, even some of that stuff I fell for.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: That's not to say that Kamala Harris is a perfect person.
Speaker 1: I cannot say that. And the most perfect person for
Speaker 1: any job is Ramsay's in Ramses's opinion.
Speaker 2: Important to say when you say you fail for it,
Speaker 2: because I think this is very very important context, just
Speaker 2: to help our listeners understand how similar they are to
Speaker 2: even us. And we do this all the time when
Speaker 2: we felt susceptible to some of these same lies. We
Speaker 2: were looking for the perfect candidate, just like you are right,
Speaker 2: And what that does to us is we cannibalize each other,
Speaker 2: We poke holes in one another, We hold each other
Speaker 2: under such high levels of scrutiny that no one lives
Speaker 2: up to it. And those that oppose us do not
Speaker 2: do such a thing. So it kind of handicaps us.
Speaker 2: As in these cases, while we're looking for perfect they've
Speaker 2: already accepted all the flaws of their candidate. Not only that,
Speaker 2: but they fortified them they've made that person impenetrable and
Speaker 2: pregnable and undefeatable, that you can't say anything wrong because
Speaker 2: not only do they know it, but they accept it
Speaker 2: and they praise it, and it's kind of there. They
Speaker 2: turned it into a rallying cry. So when you say
Speaker 2: you fail for it, that you were duped, it was like, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is another reason why she's not the perfect candidate.
Speaker 2: This is who I would vote for. And in a
Speaker 2: lot of cases, some people are not out to hate her,
Speaker 2: they're just looking for ideal and unfortunately we cannot afford
Speaker 2: to be idealist. We have to be on the realist
Speaker 2: and on the side of what's best for us. So
Speaker 2: when you say you fail for it too, it wasn't
Speaker 2: because you were susceptible to conspiracy or easy to dupe.
Speaker 2: It was you're just like some of our listeners. You
Speaker 2: wanted us to have the best candidate possible. So anyone
Speaker 2: poking a hole in the case of the candidate that
Speaker 2: you didn't have at the top of your list without
Speaker 2: even researching, you just grab a hold to that point
Speaker 2: and say, Okay, that's what I need, that's what I needed.
Speaker 1: Yes, so let me give you that and let me
Speaker 1: give everyone this just so that you understand how susceptible
Speaker 1: all of us are to these sorts of things. Yes,
Speaker 1: now little different. I'm gonna give you some context. When
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris first ran for president, I was all the
Speaker 1: way in the deep end for Bernie Sanders, right politically,
Speaker 1: like so for people that say, oh, you're just voting
Speaker 1: for her because she's black, Bernie's not black. Bernie was
Speaker 1: talking the way that I wanted a candidate to talk.
Speaker 1: And Kamala Harris, this is what I thought at the
Speaker 1: time because this was what was shared online, right, so
Speaker 1: I fall for it too. As much of a journalist
Speaker 1: as I try to be, Kamala Harris was locking up
Speaker 1: all the black people.
Speaker 2: This also I thought, very early in our journalist journey.
Speaker 3: That's fair, and that's fair.
Speaker 1: But that's what I thought, yes, and then now that
Speaker 1: but Bernie was my guy, so there was no way
Speaker 1: I was picking anyone else. I wasn't picking Joe Biden
Speaker 1: until Joe Biden was the only choice.
Speaker 2: And it was also easy to believe that a prosecuting
Speaker 2: attorney would that comes with the joke, lock someone up,
Speaker 2: even if it wasn't specifically black. Okay, that's what she
Speaker 2: does for a living. So yeah, that makes makes sense.
Speaker 2: I don't really rock with the police law like that.
Speaker 2: So Bernie said, wasn't saying that? And she was.
Speaker 3: So that was a very simple choice for me. Right.
Speaker 1: But now that I have to have a critical examination
Speaker 1: and there's no Bernie Sanders around, it's just her or
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Now that I'm forced to really look at
Speaker 1: what happened there, I end up with a show like
Speaker 1: Today's show, and again where online you might find some
Speaker 1: folks that are saying, Kamala Harris did this, and Kamala
Speaker 1: Harris did that. I promise you on today's show, Ramses.
Speaker 3: Did the research. Q did the research.
Speaker 1: So we got something for you, and we will cite
Speaker 1: as many of our sources as we can. But we
Speaker 1: do know that, you know, we're radio broadcasters with a
Speaker 1: lot of this stuff lives in an online space, so
Speaker 1: we're responding in kindness. We are going to share some
Speaker 1: videos with you of some folks who started us on
Speaker 1: our research journey and they gave us the places to look.
Speaker 2: And you can do your due diligence. Absolutely have to
Speaker 2: just take our word for it, but here we go.
Speaker 2: We're going to start with, what is her record as
Speaker 2: a politician. This is a primary attack on the right.
Speaker 3: So let's go.
Speaker 4: I don't need politicians to state things. I need politicians
Speaker 4: to do things. This message for Amanda Sales and Amanda
Speaker 4: Sials only central a lot of questions about things that
Speaker 4: Common and our team have done. I figured I take
Speaker 4: de liberty to outline some of the bills to see
Speaker 4: introduced when she was a senator. The COVID Bias An
Speaker 4: Anti Racism Act of twenty twenty, Water for Tomorrow Act
Speaker 4: of twenty twenty, Improving Pandemic Preparedness and Response, Bill to
Speaker 4: Save Our Street Act, Monthly Economic Crisis Support Act, Closing
Speaker 4: the Mill Gap Act of twenty twenty, The Black Maternal
Speaker 4: Health Act of twenty twenty. That's a good one. The
Speaker 4: Accountability for Utilities Executive Act. Now that one stopped people
Speaker 4: from getting golden parachutes. If the utility company was going
Speaker 4: through a merger, acquisition, or bank receive of any conc they.
Speaker 3: Couldn't get paid out. And everybody's got let go.
Speaker 4: The Ending Homelessness Act of twenty nineteen. Then we got
Speaker 4: the hold on. Wait minute, it's a hold on. I
Speaker 4: can't read that well, you get the point though. Honestly,
Speaker 4: it's signed for a new class of influencers, those that
Speaker 4: find more answers than ask questions, those that care about
Speaker 4: the communities and providing the information and factual data. I'm
Speaker 4: tired of the contraller and rhetoric I've seen on this
Speaker 4: app from our own people when it comes to politics,
Speaker 4: and it's time for something.
Speaker 1: New, Okay, So we want to give credit to this.
Speaker 2: Uh So, Isaac Hayes posted that the guy's name was
Speaker 2: easy shot oh four, and I think that might have
Speaker 2: been from a TikTok. I'm not sure that's but Isaac
Speaker 2: Hayes the third that was on his instagram.
Speaker 3: So you can start there.
Speaker 1: And then find a sure way backwards. So so they
Speaker 1: just leaving the footprints for you to go back. But
Speaker 1: obviously he said as much can fit in a TikTok,
Speaker 1: and then toward the end he's like, I can't read
Speaker 1: that fast. You couldn't see it. But visually there were
Speaker 1: just more and more things, a.
Speaker 2: Bunch of bills that she either sponsored or authored that
Speaker 2: were beneficial to marginalized community all over this country.
Speaker 1: This is her record as a politician. Again, these are
Speaker 1: attacks from the right. Another attack from the right is
Speaker 1: what has she done as vice president? We have another
Speaker 1: video that we're going to share here, and this is
Speaker 1: just this. This comes from Doo Hughley, and there's rather
Speaker 1: more in this video than just what she's done for
Speaker 1: his level of self accountability and honesty with regards to
Speaker 1: our vice president exactly because what you're about to hear
Speaker 1: is this makes it okay to say, you know what,
Speaker 1: I might have been wrong if indeed you are one
Speaker 1: of those people that has been like in my comments
Speaker 1: saying Ramses, what are you talking about? I'm talking about. Look,
Speaker 1: we can't give this country over to Project twenty twenty
Speaker 1: five and another and foremost and another Trump presidency, right
Speaker 1: because then we're fixed in that lock and step into
Speaker 1: that direction in perpetuity and the rest of my life
Speaker 1: will look like that.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I'm about how way through probably more than that. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm black, so I die young.
Speaker 2: There's two things with the point that you just made
Speaker 2: that have become more and more uncomfortable for me daily.
Speaker 2: One of them is the there have been a benefit
Speaker 2: of the doubt extended to every vice president ever, and
Speaker 2: then now with her it's she's done nothing as vice president,
Speaker 2: which you don't have to do any research.
Speaker 3: You know, that's not true.
Speaker 2: There's nobody who done nothing as vice president, even Mike Pence,
Speaker 2: who neither of us would support. But the idea that
Speaker 2: someone got to the second highest office in the country
Speaker 2: and did nothing, it's not a vacation, you know, and
Speaker 2: just hang out and you're not just a chilling. And secondly,
Speaker 2: those both sides of the argument. People who are suggesting that, well,
Speaker 2: you know, both parties feel like this could be the
Speaker 2: last election. Well one party saying that, and they have
Speaker 2: a plan and have a plan to make that the truth. So, like,
Speaker 2: we got to stop with this rhetoric, all.
Speaker 1: Right, So let's let's get to this, and I want
Speaker 1: you to listen for what has she done as VP?
Speaker 1: Because he it's really brief and really shortened on much
Speaker 1: longer conversation, but it's there.
Speaker 3: So let's fire this one off.
Speaker 5: Tamala Harris did not, in fact lock up the thousands
Speaker 5: of people that I said she did. I told that like,
Speaker 5: and I have apologized to it. Not only have I apologized,
Speaker 5: I've said to her, not only am I going to
Speaker 5: keep apologizing because I think it did that much damage.
Speaker 5: I am going to do what I can do to
Speaker 5: make sure you become the forty seven. At this time,
Speaker 5: I said, I said to her, when I apologize, I'm
Speaker 5: going to make sure you get elected. I didn't say
Speaker 5: re elected, I said elected and now here. It is
Speaker 5: that opportunity to me, that is divine, That is supposed
Speaker 5: to something that's supposed.
Speaker 3: To have happened.
Speaker 5: If you are the people right now who are misquoting
Speaker 5: her record, we are not the same. If you believe
Speaker 5: that her locking people up from weed is worse than
Speaker 5: a man who says he wants to give a dope
Speaker 5: talers the definitely we are not the same. If you
Speaker 5: want me to remember her past but not Trump's past,
Speaker 5: were not the same. If you want to re mind
Speaker 5: me of her record but don't want to talk about
Speaker 5: Project twenty twenty five. Have you ever know the same
Speaker 5: black people that want to tell you she sold all
Speaker 5: these weed and locked all these people up, I'll tell
Speaker 5: you that they don't believe the twenty twenty five is
Speaker 5: Trunk's planned for a second for a second term.
Speaker 3: There is a reason for that.
Speaker 5: If you're telling me you're not gonna vote for her,
Speaker 5: because she has a white husband, then we're not the same.
Speaker 5: But if you're going to say she has a white husband,
Speaker 5: you better have a black wife when you say it.
Speaker 5: Don't tell me that somebody's Ladin or Asian. I think
Speaker 5: that's that shouldn't be a predicate the predicant anyway. But
Speaker 5: if you are accusing her malet the choices, you better
Speaker 5: make sure yours are in line with the actors accusations
Speaker 5: you made. We are not the same. If these are, Well,
Speaker 5: she ain't black enough. I'll tell you what. She's a
Speaker 5: black woman. She went to Oakland. She's from Oakland. She
Speaker 5: went to an HPCU. She's an Aka. She had a
Speaker 5: boyfriend named Willie, and she got a name. First name
Speaker 5: is hard for everybody pronounce. It sounds different than it's failed.
Speaker 5: That's black enough for me. But what I do know
Speaker 5: for sure is that she can win if we decide
Speaker 5: it is so. And if that is not your goal,
Speaker 5: we are not the same. Your we and my wei
Speaker 5: are not the same.
Speaker 3: Well, she is she? She everything else? I don't care
Speaker 3: about none of that. I ain't got time to terry.
Speaker 5: What I'm trying to do is to make sure that
Speaker 5: I make good on something I wrong this woman. I
Speaker 5: lied on her and hurt her reputation. And if you
Speaker 5: tell me, where was she at for four years, you idiot?
Speaker 5: She is the vice president of the United States of America,
Speaker 5: and the vice presidency is a ceremonial position.
Speaker 3: It's a ceremonial.
Speaker 5: Positions and your job as vice president is to do
Speaker 5: what the president says. You think that ain't true, getting
Speaker 5: most of that, your job to start talking bad about
Speaker 5: your boss. See see how that works out. You a
Speaker 5: vice anything, and you think you would tell the president
Speaker 5: what to do. It was a ceremonial position she did
Speaker 5: when she was supposed to. Being mad at a vice
Speaker 5: president would be like being mad as a backup quarterback
Speaker 5: because the quarterback through an interception.
Speaker 3: And you know that to be true.
Speaker 5: You are saying all these things because whatever you have
Speaker 5: on your mind, whatever your mindset is, it is not
Speaker 5: the same as mine. I don't begrudge you for how
Speaker 5: you feel, but I ain't got time to play with you.
Speaker 5: My goal is to make right something I did wrong.
Speaker 5: It is to make sure I keep my word, and
Speaker 5: I am going to do all I can to make
Speaker 5: sure that she becomes a black women age woman and
Speaker 5: AI and P. I know that she's going to be
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what. She's black enough to be called
Speaker 5: a DEI hired by inferior white man. She's black enough
Speaker 5: for her for them to challenge her intellect. She's black
Speaker 5: enough for them to call her promiscuous and say she
Speaker 5: slept her way to the top. So if you think
Speaker 5: that those things matter to you.
Speaker 3: We are not the same. I'm not going to be
Speaker 3: what it is you are, and I'm.
Speaker 5: Not gonna have time to argue with you back and
Speaker 5: forth on the internet, because unlike you, I believe I
Speaker 5: am my sister's keeper.
Speaker 1: Okay, so listen Vice Presidency ceremonial position.
Speaker 2: Appointed pointed by the President. The voice you heard, however,
Speaker 2: Bill Hughley posted by Joane Reid.
Speaker 1: Also want to let you know that we will talk
Speaker 1: about the quote unquote thousands of black men that she
Speaker 1: supposedly locked up, and we will talk about what she's
Speaker 1: done for black people. So stay tuned for that. But
Speaker 1: right now, while we're here, I wanted to make sure
Speaker 1: that we answered those two questions about her record as
Speaker 1: a politician, what she's done as VP, because right now
Speaker 1: these are specific to just the rights attacks on her. Now,
Speaker 1: these are all things that we had to confirm, and
Speaker 1: if it's not confirmed yet, well we'll have it for
Speaker 1: you in the second half of the show.
Speaker 3: Those that are able to listen.
Speaker 1: Now we shift over to Time Magazine and you can
Speaker 1: just google Time dot com and it'll.
Speaker 3: All be there. Disgusting, by the way.
Speaker 1: Okay, So Time Magazine has an article where they go
Speaker 1: through a lot of claims that are made against Kamala
Speaker 1: Harris that are shared widely on the right. And if
Speaker 1: you're one of those people that comes across this, you
Speaker 1: might want to re examine your algorithm because you might
Speaker 1: be being served bad information. But these are fact checked
Speaker 1: by Time Magazine, which is a bigger and longer standing
Speaker 1: institution than they've been around before. Me and you both
Speaker 1: born put together, right you? So they they they're not
Speaker 1: playing with this. So I trust journalistically credible sources in
Speaker 1: doing this show here and Q is we're the same
Speaker 1: here indeed. All right, So the claim in this, according
Speaker 1: to Time Magazine, the claim is that Kamala Harris got
Speaker 1: her start by having an affair with a married man,
Speaker 1: California politician Willie Brown, and this is what kind of
Speaker 1: led that guy on Fox News to say she was
Speaker 1: the original hawk to a girl, which is that's just.
Speaker 3: A mess thing to say.
Speaker 1: Now, when we look at she's she's older than we are,
Speaker 1: so we look at her and we no matter what,
Speaker 1: we'll have a degree of reverence for her. That's just
Speaker 1: kind of how it works around here. That was foul
Speaker 1: for him to say that, But it doesn't matter how
Speaker 1: I feel. The facts are that again, it's from Time magazine.
Speaker 1: This is missing some important context. Brown was separated from
Speaker 1: his wife during the relationship, which was not a secret.
Speaker 1: Brown ninety is a former mayor of San Francisco who
Speaker 1: was serving as Speaker of the California State Assembly in
Speaker 1: the nineteen nineties when he and Harris were in a relationship.
Speaker 1: Not sleeping or way to this up. They were in
Speaker 1: a relationship. Brown had separated from his wife in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty two.
Speaker 2: Their relationship was in the nineteen nineties. He got separated
Speaker 2: eight years prior to nineteen ninety.
Speaker 3: All right, He.
Speaker 1: Wrote that he supported Harris's first race to be San
Speaker 1: Francisco District Attorney, just as he had supported a long
Speaker 1: list of other California politicians, including former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi,
Speaker 1: former Senator Diane Feinstein and Governor Gavin Newsom. Harris fifty nine,
Speaker 1: was state attorney general from twenty eleven to twenty seventeen
Speaker 1: and served in the Senate from twenty seventeen until twenty one,
Speaker 1: when she became Vice president. She has been married to
Speaker 1: Doug m Hoff since twenty fourteen. Harris's critics have used
Speaker 1: the past relationship to question her qualifications as Fox News
Speaker 1: personality to Tommy Lauren, Tommy Lauren, Tommy Lawn, that's what
Speaker 1: I thought, Okay, when did when she wrote on social
Speaker 1: media in twenty nineteen, quote, Kamala, did you fight for
Speaker 1: ideals or did you sleep your way to the top
Speaker 1: with Willy Brown unquote? Lauren later apologized for the comment.
Speaker 1: Trump and some of his supporters have also highlighted the
Speaker 1: nearly three decade old relationship in recent attacks on Harris.
Speaker 1: I want to add one more thing here, which is
Speaker 1: that we saw the appointments that Willie Brown quote unquote
Speaker 1: gave her to advance her career, and everything that was
Speaker 1: reported on this is simply her being appointed to committees
Speaker 1: because that was the job that she did and she
Speaker 1: had the qualifications to do that job. Now I want
Speaker 1: to add one last thing here, because this is particular
Speaker 1: insulting for all women. People date who's close to them.
Speaker 1: The number one predictor of success in a relationship is proximity.
Speaker 1: And you tend to be close to people that share
Speaker 1: your passion, share your work, share your work schedule, and
Speaker 1: are generally speaking more or less around the same age
Speaker 1: and have the same sort of viability, right, And so
Speaker 1: dating people in the workplace is not uncommon. She didn't
Speaker 1: advance her career. She got committee positions. I think two
Speaker 1: of those, and that's it. So this narrative is hurtful
Speaker 1: and gross and foul. I got to get through these
Speaker 1: last couple real quick. Another claim is that Harris is
Speaker 1: not an American citizen and therefore cannot serve as commander
Speaker 1: in chief, and the facts is completely false. Harris is
Speaker 1: a natural born US citizen. She was born in October twenty,
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty four, in Oaktown, according to a copy of
Speaker 1: her birth certificate obtained by the Associate Press. Another claim,
Speaker 1: an inside addition clip of television hosts Montell Williams holding
Speaker 1: hands with Harris and another woman is proof that Harris
Speaker 1: was his quote side piece. The facts the clip shows
Speaker 1: Montel with Harris and his daughter, Ashley Williams. Harris and
Speaker 1: Williams and Montell, Williams's daughter were in the photo together,
Speaker 1: and people, it just looks because he's holding both of
Speaker 1: their hands.
Speaker 3: It looks because his.
Speaker 1: Daughter is like kind of tall and so people.
Speaker 3: I mean, she's an adult.
Speaker 2: He's with two adult women that he loves, his daughter,
Speaker 2: the other one was the person he was in a
Speaker 2: relationship with at the time.
Speaker 1: And then there's also other things, you know, please check
Speaker 1: out the article, but there's like all kinds of stuff
Speaker 1: floating around online where it makes her look like she's unintelligent.
Speaker 1: She's like rambling on about things like she doesn't know
Speaker 1: what she's talking about. Those are edited. There's a ton
Speaker 1: of gripes associated with this. I'm short on time here,
Speaker 1: but a lot of these Republican attacks on Kamala Harris
Speaker 1: are entirely fabricated, and they're not based in a morally
Speaker 1: just reality or indeed reality period. And that's just the
Speaker 1: people in the middle.
Speaker 2: Acting in good faith and just a point of clarification.
Speaker 2: When I said oak Town, I'm in Oakland, California, California,
Speaker 2: I say there it is, So we're going to be back,
Speaker 2: obviously with more because the black attack is real and
Speaker 2: we definitely have to talk about that too,