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Speaker 1: Welcome in to another Jaguars media round table. I'm J. P.

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Speaker 1: Shadrick and the Jaguars face the New Orleans Saints this

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Speaker 1: Sunday at one o'clock at t I A A. Bank Field.

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Speaker 1: We've had a lot of different writers and broadcasters on

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Speaker 1: this podcast throughout training camp in the early parts of

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Speaker 1: the season, but we've got two of the newest guys

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Speaker 1: business has changed, and we're going to podcasts and websites

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Speaker 1: and social media. Maven's here, I mean, no pun intended.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that. Uh. Demetrius Harvard from Lockdown Jaguars,

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Speaker 1: what's up man? How are you? I'm doing great. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you having for having me on. Um, it's been

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Speaker 1: an incredible experience so far being here coming the Jaguars. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty much a dream come true at least. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's been good to have you on the beat

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Speaker 1: for sure. John Shipley from Jaguar Maven, what's up man?

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Speaker 1: I doing doing good? I really appreciate you having me

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Speaker 1: on as well. And you know, just like Demetrius, you

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Speaker 1: know I got here. I was telling you just about

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Speaker 1: week one and it's been a all win, but it's

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Speaker 1: been an enjoyable win. Oh, there's been a whirlwind for

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Speaker 1: this Jaguars team. Let's touch a little bit out on

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Speaker 1: your background before we get to Jaguars football, because I

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Speaker 1: don't know, it's hard on social media to say hey,

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Speaker 1: I did this and put your resume out there and

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Speaker 1: do all this. But you guys do have a past though. Demetrius,

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Speaker 1: how did you get involved here with luck on Jaguars. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think it began a couple of years ago, probably

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Speaker 1: in two seventeen, right after I graduated from f a U.

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Speaker 1: I actually didn't graduate with anything in journalism or broadcasting

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Speaker 1: our communications. I didn't really know what I wanted to

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Speaker 1: do after, so I just started writing. I said, you

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Speaker 1: know what, I love football, I love sports. I just

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Speaker 1: more than just on Twitter. So I met this guy

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Speaker 1: named Zach Goodall and he introduced me to Locked on Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: He told me to come on and it's gonna be great.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna have a podcast, we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: a website. You can write, you can learn um. Basically,

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Speaker 1: it's snowballed from there. A couple of years later this summer,

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Speaker 1: I just, I guess I took a leap, you would say,

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Speaker 1: I'm here. Pretty cool, man, Pretty cool. Now. The Jaguar

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Speaker 1: Maven stuff through Sports Illustrated is relatively new. And what

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Speaker 1: did you find out about that? Yeah, I think I

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Speaker 1: had first found out about, you know, Maven and Sports

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Speaker 1: Illustrator trying to get localized, you know, beat reporters with

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Speaker 1: each NFL team. I found out about that, probably didn't

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Speaker 1: long at all before the season started. And you know,

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Speaker 1: once once the ball got rolling. Actually coincidentally, the same

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Speaker 1: with him, Zach Goodal, I've known for years. I used

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Speaker 1: does Gator Maven for Sports Illustrating and he told me, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, they need a Jaguars beat reporter. I know,

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Speaker 1: you know, you've kind of done the same thing in

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Speaker 1: the past. And he helped me get the ball rolling there,

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Speaker 1: and you know, it really has been you know, like

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Speaker 1: it's been fun and uh, it's just the opportunity to

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Speaker 1: and stuff. I'm spokes illustrated. That's probably been the coolest

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Speaker 1: thing for me. A little bit different than Palacco. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: is good. Glad to have you guys here, and we're

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Speaker 1: looking forward to to reading and listening to you guys

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Speaker 1: throughout the season. Here. Let's get to football, shall we.

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Speaker 1: Obviously the big news nationally this week will be the

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Speaker 1: injury report says he's questionable. We'll see. I guess what

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Speaker 1: this week with twenty um it's it's it's kind of

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Speaker 1: And when you hear those kind of things listen to

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Speaker 1: if you did this is this is the kind of

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Speaker 1: It's um, it's top of mine. It will be the

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Speaker 1: next few weeks. Demetrius Harvey from Locked on Jaguars, John

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Speaker 1: Shipley from Jaguar Mayven Twitter handles. Please my Twitter handle.

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Speaker 1: It's at Underscore John Underscore Shipley. Okay, thank you. At

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Speaker 1: Demetrius there you go, give him a follow. If you

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Speaker 1: haven't already, where have you been? They've been here for

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