1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: Local Radio Radio Radio Commies a Myth and Bullshit, a 2 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: radio phonic novella. Local Radio, hosted by Malamnola Locomotive is 3 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: welcome back to local Radio. Welcome back, Welcome back, This 4 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: is my La and this is Theosa and we are 5 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: Last Radio. Welcome to Season three of Local Radios. Because 6 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: fem revenge has never sounded so sweet. Look a Radio 7 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: is a radiophonic novella archiving the brilliant and legacies of 8 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: women and fems of color. We are mommies of myth 9 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: and bullshit and um you know radio, which is a 10 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: radiophonic novella, which is a really really extra way of 11 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: saying a podcast. Thank you for tuning in once again, 12 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: Local Moore as we're so excited to be here. We're 13 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: really excited for this episode. This is very cute. Yes, yes, 14 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:14,199 Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about healing, ancestral knowledge, um love, 15 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: all signs of things, de colonizing pleasure, colonizing pleasure in 16 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: the next us in the second half of this So 17 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: before we get into that, we just want to remind 18 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: you all that we are in our fem tech quarter. 19 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: So if you're a new listener and you haven't listened 20 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 1: to eight. Yet that is where we lay the groundwork 21 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: for what fem tech is and how we view from technology. 22 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: And it's the term that we created. There have been 23 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: other folks that have you know, created their own term, 24 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: like La Loba Looka refers to Abolita knowledge and that's 25 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: her the way she talks about fem tech. Kim Alan 26 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: has talked about I think fem science. So there have 27 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: been different women and fem's talking about these concept yeah, 28 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: from different lenses. Yeah. And this is our our offering, 29 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: our local perspective of fem tech. And we have two 30 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: really amazing, dynamic, um fabulous guests, so we're gonna come 31 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: and share with us from their lens and their perspective 32 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: health technology factors into their work. So that's going to 33 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: be in the second half. So before we do that, 34 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: we do have some announcements, some housekeeping, some cheese mass, 35 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: some in photo share with you all. So to get 36 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: us started, as you know, we have a really exciting 37 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: fun partnership with the Bloom the Blue me So if 38 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: you haven't checked out the Blue met yet, please check 39 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: them out. 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And it's what I just 59 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: want to say that we went from you know, not 60 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: having any codes and product placement at all and now 61 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: we have multiple and I love it because it's all 62 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: Latina women of color like small businesses well, and it's 63 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: also super on brand because one they're like sex toys, 64 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: yep and hygiene care and then the other is makeup everything. 65 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: We love? What else? Think? Yeah? Like really, wow? What 66 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: else do we need in life? More money? More money? Oh, 67 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: if there is an I p A brand out there, 68 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: we'll accept a sponsorship. We love us some I p 69 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: A s we really do. We drink it like it's 70 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: water to our own the minds we shouldn't. We should 71 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: We do it like it's a light beer, you know. 72 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 1: I want to say that. I have been like talking 73 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: about the hashtag fems who drink I p A. And 74 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: last night I ordered a drink and the guy was like, oh, 75 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: what are you going to order there? This one that's 76 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: really light, and I was like, Nope, I'll take the 77 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: I p A. Yes, me, underestimated me with the I 78 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: p A. I think I can handle it. I act 79 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: like I can handle it. I can. I can handle it. 80 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: Maybe not the next day, but in the moment, I'm good. 81 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: Like maybe I'll have a little hangover, but it's worth it. 82 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: It's part of the process. It's part of the experience. 83 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: Um also for our look on motives for our listeners 84 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: out there. As you know, we still our d I 85 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: y UM. We're self, we're startup. You know, we're indie 86 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: and we don't have any angel investors. We don't get 87 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: paid to do this. So for those of you who 88 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: are interested in supporting the project, you can always venmo 89 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: us and we're at local dash radio. 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The 114 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,239 Speaker 1: third installment of the l A Made Library Workshop INTROT 115 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: podcasting at sun Valley on May nine at five thirty pm. 116 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: So if you've been with us for the first and 117 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: second installment, this is the final installment and hopefully you'll 118 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: be able to walk away with a full podcast you 119 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: can now launch that you can launch and that's the 120 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: goal of that three part series is to take your 121 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: idea and to grow it into an actual project that 122 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: you can share with the world. So that's May nine, 123 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: and then coming up the also is going to be 124 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: participating in a really exciting event called Love Thyself Festival. 125 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: Oh yes, yeah, So Love Myself Festival is put on 126 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: by hippieca Arianna. She designed our logo for look at 127 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: That our radio, and she's curating this like amazing mini 128 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: festival all about elamor Propio, all about self love. I 129 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: will be doing a workshop on a guide to Goddess Worship, 130 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: which is something that Mala and I, um we have 131 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: a la on that and we presented that at University 132 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: of Oregon about over a year ago. So I'm going 133 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: to be facilitating that at this festival. In addition, Yesica 134 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: will be there, uh the amazing the Hood which is 135 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: also going to be there, and the Hood which I'm 136 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: sure that our listeners follow her. You know, Brie. She's 137 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: actually based in Seattle, so it's not very often that 138 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: she is out in l A. So the fact that 139 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: Adrian booked her like he's incredible and like yeah, So 140 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: it's just gonna be a full day of like selfie taking, 141 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: opportunities of photo booth performances, workshop workshops. Hood Profit is 142 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: going to be there, Tonna is gonna be there. Mad 143 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: Love to Hood Profit, Mad Love to So Much Love 144 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: for Hood Profit. Anthonna Antonna and there's gonna be vendors, 145 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: there's gonna be food. It's gonna be amazing. So you 146 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: can get your tickets on event Bright. It's Love Thyself 147 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: Dot event Right. I'm sad I'm not going to be there. 148 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be out of town. Yeah, that's the only 149 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: reason mal I will not be there. She has an 150 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: important date. It's it's it's a it's a reunion. Like 151 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: it's a reunion. I'm going to for for school. So 152 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see my home girls who live out 153 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: on the East Coast that I haven't seen in a while. 154 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: You will be engaging in God's worship in your own way. 155 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: This is this is true, So I'll be I'll be 156 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 1: participating in spiritual yes. Yes. Another exciting thing that is 157 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: participating in. Yeah. So We All Grow is a big 158 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: conference that happens out here that's put on by hashtog 159 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: We All Grow, and it's going to be at the 160 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: Hotel Maya and Long Beach and I'm going to be 161 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: on a panel curated by Mario La Rosario, who is 162 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: the editor in chief at Hip Latina. So I'm really 163 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: excited because Raguel, our homegirl, is going to be on 164 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: the panels. She's going to be Intel, She's back, She's 165 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: going to be back on the West Coast. Yes, um 166 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 1: even actually she's a journalist. She also writes for Hip 167 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: Latina and Camari Chelsea will also be on the panel. 168 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: So it's going to be really amazing. And the name 169 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: of the panel is let's get political how socially conscious 170 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: content can build a brand. So I'm really excited to 171 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: be on the panel. And I'm like really thankful that 172 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: to Maria lad that reached out and you know, wanted 173 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: to include me. So that's really cool because I'm like 174 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: a baby journalist, Like I have like my little articles 175 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: that I've done. I think I've done maybe five or 176 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: six total. So have you talked about your articles on 177 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: the podcast, but I don't think you have. You've shared 178 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: on Instagram. I've shared on Instagram. I have like, um, 179 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: I think maybe three articles with Hip Latina one one 180 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: or on UM Fierce by me. So you can actually 181 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: head over to our website if you drop down and 182 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: go to theosa my profile, you can find all my 183 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: articles there if you want to read them. Some really 184 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: good stuff. I really like the one about UM you 185 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: did research into the products that are in feminine hygiene 186 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: products into the ingredients, the chemicals. I should say yes, 187 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: the chemicals because girls, ladies look at motive. If you 188 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: have a volva, you know, however, you identify a vagina 189 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: um and the tampons that you're using like have actual 190 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: chemicals in them. They have chlorine. And I kept getting 191 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: I wrote about this in an article. I kept getting 192 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: a U T I like painful ones and my doctors 193 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: were like, fucking just wipe, Like how are you wiping? 194 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: Literally that's what they would ask me, like are you peeing? 195 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: After said are you cleaning up? And actually ended up 196 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: being the tampons that I was using their poisonous. Yeah, 197 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: it was horrible. I mean, toxic shock syndrome is a thing, 198 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: and like you know the fact that that product can 199 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: give that to you alone. It is like I recently 200 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: switched over and started using a Diva cup. I started 201 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: using a Diva cup and I'm I'm into it. I'm obsessed. 202 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: It's my new thing. I'm not ready for the Diva 203 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: cup I tried for. I tried it a while years ago. Um, 204 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: maybe maybe now now that I'm having sex with a man, 205 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: maybe I can do at the time I couldn't sure 206 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: it's too much, but anyway, anyway, that's second. So tickets 207 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: are actually sold out for that event, but I have 208 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: heard that there will be a digital past for sale. 209 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: So they are going to be streaming all of the workshops. 210 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: Very cool, so I will post about it. Yeah, so 211 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 1: I can't be there, you can stream. We are also 212 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: going to be traveling again. I'm really excited for this 213 00:11:56,040 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: one another university. We're going to be at Northwestern Northwestern 214 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: University UM in Illinois in Chicago or Chicago and Jason 215 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: outside of Chicago, but it's like thirty minutes from So 216 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: that's so thank you to the students at Northwestern who 217 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: have and it's been a while trying to plan this 218 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: trip out, you know, it's this Yeah, it's been in 219 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: the making for more than a couple of months and 220 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: the students are so amazing because they actually fundraised to 221 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: bring us out. I'm not sure if they got any 222 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: like university grants, any like student funds like located, but 223 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: I know for sure that they fundraise. Yeah, So we 224 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: appreciate all the students who ever reach out to us 225 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: and find funding or fundraise and book our flights and 226 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: get us out to your universities. It's really amazing. And 227 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: those gigs like are always really incredible for us, like 228 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: meeting students and our listeners and you all are very inspiring. 229 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: So it's just honestly a privilege to be there with 230 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: you and to meet you. Yeah, it really is, like 231 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: we really do not take it for granted that book us, 232 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: that y'all want to that y'all come out for us, 233 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: so y'all want to meet us, so you want to 234 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: take pictures with us, Like we like really soaked that 235 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: all up, We really do. We always leave inspired and motivated. 236 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: So that's Mala has some really exciting news to share 237 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: with us. Oh my god, I am living my best 238 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: white women life right now, bitch. So the Wing here's 239 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: the thing. The Wing is. Um. I feel like one 240 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: day we had never heard of it. We lived our 241 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: whole we had never heard of this place. Is very true, 242 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: and then the next day all the women in our 243 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: circle are involved with the Wing. Yeah it's wild. So 244 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: for those of you who have never heard of the Wing, 245 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: because I mean it's still new for us, you know 246 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: what I mean. Also just opened in l A. So 247 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: it's like literally new for us. I know, that there 248 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: have been. There's other locations that have been opened for 249 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: a while New York, in Chicago. I see Joanna from 250 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: the Unapology, we see you with the Wing and Amy. Yeah, 251 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: they're always out there taking up space. Yes, well that 252 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: has been. That was like one of my introductions to 253 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: the Wing on the East coast side. And now they're 254 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 1: in l A. So the West Hollywood location just opened 255 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: up two weeks ago. So, UM, you know, it's like 256 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: a women it's a women's club. It's a women's club 257 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: and coworking space. It's kind of like a grown up sorority. 258 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: UM but better, I'm gonna just say that. So the 259 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: Wing just opened up here in West Hollywood, and you know, 260 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: it's like a membership based UM club and a lot 261 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: of women will use the space to work and hold meetings. 262 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: UM and uh. They had a scholarship program that they 263 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: were offering because it's kind of expensive to like be 264 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: a member and to pay the monthly fees to be 265 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: quite honest, But they had a scholarship program that they 266 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: put out and I um received one of their scholarships. 267 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: So they accepted me. They gave me a scholarship, So 268 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: I am now a member at the Wing. Um, living 269 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: my best white woman fantasy and it's really fun. Yesicas 270 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: there chilling our girls. Zeila a word agency because like 271 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: mol and I are a package. So like wherever she goes, 272 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: I go and vice versa. So I'm just hello, I 273 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: am also a member of the Wing. We're at the Wing. 274 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: Like I'm also there. We're at the Wing and like 275 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: they do workshops and I'm like R S V P 276 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: Mala plus one. I'm the plus one. I love it 277 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: is my forever plus one. So yeah, that's cute. That's 278 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: cute stuff. So thank you. I'm really happy for you. 279 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun. So thank you at the 280 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: Wing for having me, for accepting me into your club. Um. 281 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: That being said, we have a little a segment that 282 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: we want to bring back that we don't do all 283 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: the time. It just kind of depends on experience and 284 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: if we have a story. So this is weird things 285 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: White women did this week? So what weird thing did 286 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: white women do this week? Okay, well, at first I 287 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: want to preface with preface it with, Um, we had 288 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: two listeners come to our library workshop that we just 289 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: had at Exposition Park Library in South l A. This 290 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: past week, which was very fun. Workshop was so great. 291 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: The library is beautiful and we had two listeners come, 292 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: multiple listeners, but these two in particular are white women. Yes, 293 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: and they were like you can tell that they're listeners 294 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: when they came because they wanted to learn about how 295 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: we did started our podcast because they also want to 296 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: start our podcast. So then we started to think like, yeah, yeah, 297 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: so we're being and you know, we're being a little 298 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: bit facetious. This this pat this segment is is funny, 299 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So like love to our 300 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: white listeners do view her out there? And if y'all 301 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: are like you're learning, you're learning. So if you're listening, 302 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: you know we say all this it's all with love, 303 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: but you know, you know, it's like, you know, you're 304 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: making it when white women start showing up to your 305 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: ship and with white women are tuning in and acknowledging 306 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: what they're doing. Not that we need and seek that approval, 307 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: because we absolutely do not, but it's just like, oh, well, 308 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: I guess maybe we're about to go somewhere we are 309 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: doing some share, doing something where I'm thinking. Honestly, I 310 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: had that thought when I heard a white girl once 311 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: singing out loud Google's song Honda c RV. And I 312 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, Google is going to be 313 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: a superstar. A white girl is singing his song. Valid, 314 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: he's gonna be He's going to be a mega superstar. 315 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: And he is and now and and he is, and 316 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: so I think we're on the same path. So thank 317 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: you white women for acknowledging that we women. Yes, we 318 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: love some allies. We love some allies, And I think, 319 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: like the listening to podcast is obviously not the only 320 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: way to be an ally, but I think it's such 321 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: a great way to learn from experiences that are not 322 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: yours because you don't the people talking are not doing 323 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: additional labor to teach. You put the content out there, 324 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: and it's your responsibility to follow it, to listen to it, 325 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: and then follow up in terms of like I'm going 326 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: to look more into this. Oh I heard this, okay, 327 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: so now I'm going to research that absolutely now, as 328 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: opposed to like DM me them and being like, hey, um, 329 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: you know what's reversed racism exactly? People are being racist 330 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: to me but I'm white, you know what I mean. 331 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 1: Don't don't send don't you know, Like that's like I 332 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: feel like that's a good way to learn from people 333 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: without expecting additional labor. Yeah, listening is very important in 334 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: the learning process, you know, actively listening. Um, And I was, 335 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's also like from pen to post kind 336 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: of a thing. This is a woman of color Latin 337 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: X production and project. And I think a lot of 338 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: white women may be the only time that white women 339 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: depending on your community and where you grew up and 340 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: where you live and where you work blah blah blah 341 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: blah blah, I think a lot of white women maybe 342 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: are only getting uh stories from people of color, Like 343 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: if it's like a diversity training or an inclusion training, 344 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: or you have a speaker, or you watch a documentary 345 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: like it's it's it's kind of isolated and it's sporadic 346 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: and there's not it's not as holistic with this. This 347 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: is like our whole lives. This is this is not 348 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: it's just a different approach to learning us and learning 349 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: about us. So yes, thank you, thank you white women. 350 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: So on onto onto other things. Okay, so um, a 351 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: quick word from our sponsors before we enter our our 352 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: songbreak and introduce our amazing guests. So, our sponsor is 353 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: a Therapy for latin X, and we are taking this 354 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: moment to shout them out. Yes. 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Absolutely. 363 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: You know, so often we you know, talk to our friends, 364 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: our families about our problems, and you know that gets 365 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: to a certain point where it's like, okay, you vented, 366 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 1: you sought out some some advice from your home girls. 367 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: Now it's time to take the next step, which could 368 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: be therapy, and that could be in whatever way that means, 369 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: like talk based therapy is not the only step of therapy. 370 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: So highly recommend checking out Therapy for latin X. Shout 371 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: out to myself because I had my two year anniversary 372 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: with my therapist recently. That's huge. I know, I'm really 373 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: proud of my that's major. Um I still need to 374 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: go to therapy. But you know it's a process, and 375 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: you have the database ready for you. I have the 376 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: data ready, so you see that we're available. We're a 377 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: good example right here, right like actually taking the steps 378 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: and going to therapy be a long time to get here. Sure, absolutely, 379 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: it's a process. Um So yeah, So that's therapy for 380 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: latin X. Check them out. Alrighty. So before we get 381 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 1: into our song break, we are going to introduce our guests. 382 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 1: So excited for this, so excited for this. Um So 383 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: we have the honor, the privilege, the pleasure of welcoming 384 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: onto Look at our radio. Nonny Lamar and THEA Manier 385 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: of All Heart be All Heart Podcast. So All Heart 386 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: is the love child of Known Lamar and THEA Monier. 387 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: They are cultural healers and lifelong friends with lots of 388 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: receipts and laughs to fuel this joy centered podcast created 389 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: to infuse listeners with tools to increase and maintain joy 390 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: while encouraging them to access lots of pleasure. All Heart 391 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: Podcasts is the place listeners go to be pushed forward. 392 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: So you if you are interested in All Heart, you 393 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: wanna tune in you can join these two amazing black 394 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 1: women creatives as they use their voices to free minds 395 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: and other body parts with humor, authenticity, and of course heart. Yeah, 396 00:21:30,560 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: this conversation gets real. It's amazing. Vodkaster and all right 397 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: and we're back. Hello. Hello, we're so excited today to 398 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: have with us in studio at Espa Noni Lamar and 399 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,719 Speaker 1: thea Monier of All Heart Podcast. Welcome to look. Thank 400 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,719 Speaker 1: you so much for being here. Can you introduce yourselves 401 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: for our listeners. Yes, we're super excited. Were over your cheesing. 402 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: I'm so happy. We're super happy to be here. Yes, 403 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: my name is and I'm Knowny Lamar. Yeah, we do 404 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: a podcast. It's all about joy and pleasure. Yes, yeah, 405 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: we HiPE, we HiPE to be here like this is great. 406 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: It's usually just the two of us. It's like double 407 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: the trouble to love it. We like that excited. Um 408 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: So so as a reminder to our listeners, work currently 409 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: in our quarter of fem tech. So you know, we 410 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: want to talk about our framework of fem technology and 411 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: ingenuity behind women and fem's um and our labor and 412 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: our science, our technology that's not often viewed as stem 413 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: or steam, right, Um, so really honoring that and bringing 414 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: that to the forefront um and what you you all 415 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: do through your podcast A Hard and talking about de 416 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: colonizing pleasure and being joy centered. You know, we really 417 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: want you to talk about your project and how that 418 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: came to be and why you're doing the work that 419 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: you're doing. A Yeah. So really, both the and The 420 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: and I have been friends for a really long time. 421 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: We were actually in our rap group together. And you know, 422 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: it's a little known fact, so you heard it here 423 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: a group. Yeah, there may be videos. Yeah, I'm not 424 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: going to tell you the name of room because I'll 425 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: give you a little little clue. It's a little too much. 426 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: So we were in a band together. It was a 427 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: rock rap outfit, you know, all together, and we lived together, 428 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: and you know, on her way out the door, she 429 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: would bring her baby, who's now how old it's a teenager. Yeah, 430 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: she would bring her baby and lay her in my 431 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: bed so I could hold her till her you know, 432 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: mother in law came to watch her. So we were family. 433 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: You know, we've been family for a long time. And 434 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: we kind of floated apart and then came back together 435 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: and when we came back together, we were on the 436 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: same wave, and that wave we were on was definitely 437 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: both really wanting to focus on joy and pleasure, like 438 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: those were the two things that we were spiritually aligned. 439 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: But we were like, man, this world right now is 440 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: like all in their fields on a negative just a 441 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: total negative wave, and we wanted to like bring something 442 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: to the culture that was really healing. You know. That 443 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: was really like for me, like that was like I 444 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: to do a heart centered work. And you know, I'm 445 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: definitely we're both hippies, but I'm definitely the real crunchy 446 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: of the two of us. I realized I'm more an 447 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 1: island after you, like on an island vibe. I'm definitely 448 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: like I'm making my own potions. I'm the alchemist amazing tease. Yeah, 449 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: I'm such a hippie, you know. But like THEA made 450 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: me realize, like you can't just talk about flower and 451 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: birds and just like how great life is all the time, 452 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: like you had to process through your trauma's too, And 453 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: so our podcast really does both, like we're talking about 454 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: the barriers to join and pleasure, but we're also talking 455 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: about like diving deep and just talking about food for 456 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: a whole episode, or just talking about being cozy and 457 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: like how good it feels to just like put on 458 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: a sweater and sit next to a fire. You know. Yeah, No, 459 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: only definitely introduced Like NONI introduced me to a lot 460 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: of stuff that like, I'm probably conceptualizing, but she knows 461 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,239 Speaker 1: the actual name for it. I haven't. I didn't know 462 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: that was a thing. I fly just kind of off 463 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: the seat of my pants about things that Donties were like, 464 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 1: we should probably have a plan for this, we should 465 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: probably sounds like I recognize that we should probably look 466 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: at the deeper. But I think some of our best 467 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: moments have come when we were both so full of 468 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: emotion from things that are going on and the world 469 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: around us that we just came in and were like, 470 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 1: this can't be like planned. We're gonna have to just 471 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 1: press record. And I found that us being willing to 472 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 1: open up and share how we still prioritize joy and 473 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: pleasure in the midst of this bullshit has been like 474 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: a thing that people are like gravitating too. So it's 475 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: not even just like giving the strategies, but it's like, listen, 476 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: it's tough for us too, and we're gonna trudge through 477 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,719 Speaker 1: all these conversations and still at the end of it 478 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: claim our right in the marginalized space is and to 479 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: having an accessing joy and pleasure which is super important 480 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 1: to us. Like that's you're right, Yes, I wanted to say, like, 481 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 1: I think it's important when we're when we're thinking about 482 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: manifesting things, when we're thinking of starting things, how it 483 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: shows up in the body and that resonance that you're feeling. 484 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: To me, that's your greatest signal of something that will 485 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: have a longevity or a true impact in the life 486 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: of yourself. First, I'm always kind of focused on how 487 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: it's going to be for me, and then how that 488 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: impact is going to affect others. And when we were 489 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: talking about starting all Heart podcasts, we were in tears, 490 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: like we're talking on the phone thinking about the ability 491 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: that we both had the knowledge that we had massed 492 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 1: at that point, like spending all this time healing ourselves, 493 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: spending all this time studying, spending all this time diving 494 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: deep spiritually, emotionally, and then to have a platform to 495 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: do that, Like we were like crying out of joy, 496 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: like this is gonna be so dope, and and it's 497 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: really easy, organic natural. You two just said so much 498 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: in there. Then I think there are so many in 499 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: roads to what you were both just talking about to 500 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: fem technology. And I even think even just like you know, 501 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: the hippie stuff, the tinctures and the oils and the 502 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,959 Speaker 1: homemade goodies, and we were talking about before we started recording, 503 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: the fact that there's so many women of color like online, 504 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 1: like brujas and healers and even healing and like these 505 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,239 Speaker 1: indigenous spiritualities as a fem technology. I don't know if 506 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: you want to talk a little bit more about that. 507 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: Actually being the planner, I did text via a little 508 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: something before we got ready to let me tell you 509 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: what it said. We did not plan this beforehand, So 510 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: I said THEA, the definition of technology is actually the 511 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: application of scientific knowledge for practical purposes, especially in industry. 512 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: And I said, you know, I think we talk a 513 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: lot about tech, but we don't talk about spiritual technology. 514 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: And I feel like that's where women have, that's women 515 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: in films, that's where we live, boom, you know, that's 516 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: where we live. Like you know, my partner like he 517 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,479 Speaker 1: has to do a lot of studying and I just 518 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: have to go to sleep. And have a dream and 519 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: wake up and be you know, I got the answers. Yeah, 520 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: like I got the answers, I got the herb, I 521 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: got the I got the revelation. Let me light this candle, 522 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: you know, I got I gotta don't don't worry. You 523 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: don't don't stress. You don't need to read all them books. 524 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,239 Speaker 1: I mean we can read them too, but like I 525 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: have access to this whole other place that that comes 526 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,719 Speaker 1: from being a woman, being fami, you know. And I 527 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,719 Speaker 1: think that's why I like the conversation. So, you know, 528 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: I I really go hard on decolonizing mental health, decolonizing pleasure, 529 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: because I'm very clear that that is under attack, specifically 530 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: so that we do not access that spiritual technology, because 531 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: that's the technology required to absolutely revolutionize and shift everything 532 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: in this world in an instant right. I'm very clear 533 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: that that power lies in the sacred chakra of the 534 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,479 Speaker 1: feminine right. And so it's very like clear to me 535 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: how that's under attack and why even though we'll will 536 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: be talking about joy and pleasure, it definitely for us 537 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: intersects as a social justice issue, like it's um systemically 538 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: and intentionally oppressed because at this point, I think other 539 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: people know the power of it even more so than 540 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: we do. So when I challenge the mental health field, 541 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,479 Speaker 1: a lot of the reasons I'm doing it is because 542 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: it's the idea. The myth about it is, Oh, you 543 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: come into this place and I give you something to 544 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: heal yourself. And I'm very clear with my clients that's 545 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: not what's happening. What's happening as I am willing to 546 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: be a safe space for you to heal yourself because 547 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: you have access to the spiritual technology, to the knowledge 548 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: it's already there. And like this idea that we always 549 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: have to wait for someone to give us access to 550 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:57,479 Speaker 1: what's already ours kisses me so much. Um that, Like 551 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: I think we're really clear on Like even when we 552 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: each podcast, we do like, and here's what you can do. 553 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,959 Speaker 1: So it's not like is doing this like we're just 554 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: literally reminding you and yourselves on a cellular level of 555 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: what you can do. Yeah, I really reject, like I 556 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: reject the ideas of gurus, Like I reject the idea 557 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: guru keeps like I can't. I reject that that notion 558 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: that anyone even projects that on me, you know, like 559 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: I have spiritual information, I have spiritual knowledge. But I'm 560 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: only here as your mirror, right, Like I'm here to 561 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: reflect you and for you to know that, like we're 562 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: the same, but there's only to me. There's only one 563 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: person here on earth, There's only one of us, right, So, 564 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: like I'm a I'm a fan of Thea's work of 565 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: decolonization because I don't personally get that. I don't even 566 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: get riled up about colonization because I'm thinking about more 567 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: so the future too often, like where are we in 568 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: the future, Like where are we after after after she's 569 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: done decolonizing, Like where are we going to be? And 570 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm trying to create that that place, Like you know, 571 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: I'm here to like shift the frequency of the planet, 572 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: So what do we want that frequency to feel? Like what? What? Where? Where? Where? 573 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: Where is that? Where will we be? You know, looking 574 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: towards the future. I'm wondering too if we can even 575 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: think about how these conversations happening in the podcast format 576 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: at all, Like there's so many women of color podcasters 577 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: now doing so many different types of content and like 578 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: healing work, like podcasting as a vehicle for all this 579 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: stuff completely, and I see it all the time because 580 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,479 Speaker 1: so I'm on All Heart Was Known, and then I 581 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: do DIM Black mamas Um and so on both podcasts. 582 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: What's been interesting is energetically, I feel like we have 583 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: the same wavelength and ideas like and and being in 584 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: both it comes out into for an expressions. But I'm like, 585 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: I get the d M s look the same, right, 586 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: The d M s are like, wow, you know this. 587 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: I didn't. I thought I was the only one. It 588 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: may be a different type of person saying it, but 589 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: the message is clear, like you being out there means 590 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: I'm not alone, that I can identify with someone someone 591 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: identifies with me, And so I feel like, um, we're 592 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: definitely doing something beyond entertainment, like we're tapping into like 593 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: right now, this is podcasting is still it's like in 594 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: that space where it's like they haven't co opted it 595 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: yet kind of spoken word you know, we know how 596 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: that was, and then they got a hold too and 597 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: it started corporatizing it into right and so we're in 598 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: that space right now. It's still very much a tool 599 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: of the rebellions. It can still be that, and we're 600 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: really using it and can do it, and we're doing 601 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: it and I even prescribe them so I've prescribed several 602 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: students your podcast, like I've been like, you know, as 603 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: a therapeutic tool. I did, like, you know, no, you 604 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: need to check this out and they'll come back and 605 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: give me feedback. So I'm prescribing podcast at this point. 606 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: Like that's again a form of decolonizing health in the 607 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: tool cap. Yeah, as I really you said something I 608 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 1: was listening to you on another podcast when this girl 609 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: is dope, Like, but you were talking about like if 610 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: you're with the therapist and they leaving you in your pain, yeah, 611 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: leave them, leave them. They should. They should that they 612 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: don't take you to your joy, pimp in your pain. 613 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: You need to the full process. The whole point of 614 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: me going to a therapist is to get to my joy. 615 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: If I just if we're like, oh, I feel so 616 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 1: much better now that you explain that trauma. I'm glad 617 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: you feel better, but I still haven't regained access to 618 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: you know, post traumatic growth and my joy. But the 619 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: habit energy, right, I've been thinking a lot about that 620 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 1: this week, Like the habit energy of the habit energy 621 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: of sadness, the habit and g of darkness, the habit 622 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: energy of pain, you know, like that's what we can 623 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 1: even get into the habit energy of rebellion against this thing. 624 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: Like so, how how do we exist even outside of 625 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: our oppression? That's always my question. And like when we're 626 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: talking about fam technology, like to me, I'm using um herbs. 627 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: For instance, I started reading about mother work. I've never 628 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: used it mother word. Yeah, I've started reading about mother wark. 629 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: And I go through these relationships with plants where they 630 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: start to call me like, hey, no, over here. We 631 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: know you like nettles so much. We know you're in 632 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 1: You're in your season and nettle, but we want you 633 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: over here, right, We want wants you, you know, And 634 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 1: I'm like okay. So then this week mother ward started 635 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: just calling my name and my damn mother word? What 636 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 1: you go from? Me? I started researching mother wark and 637 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: it's like, all, it's like the earth giving you a hug. 638 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: Like I recently lost my grandmother and so it's like 639 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: your grandma's hugs. Basically that's what everyone. It takes you 640 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: out of anxiety, like all of these things. I cannot 641 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: wait to get that tincture. But it's bitter. It's a 642 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: super bitter herb. And I just start thinking about that, 643 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: like why is something that's so bitter trying to call 644 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: call me so I can experience that sweetness too, you know. 645 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: So I'm always kind of thinking about, like, what are 646 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 1: these these kind of physical things in in the earth, 647 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: these physical things in the earth that we can really 648 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: utilize to take us to that new place and live there, 649 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: because I don't want to go back and forth, you know, 650 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to go back and forth. I'm depressed today, 651 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: I'm happy today, I'm depressed today. I want to live 652 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: in in peace. That's really draining to go up and down, 653 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 1: up and down with your mood and your energy, and 654 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: it can be. And you know though I always think, no, 655 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: like I'm really focused on the I'm really focused on 656 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 1: the ad because everything we know, even in looking at tantra, 657 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:11,240 Speaker 1: which is another ancient science that technology utilizes the shadow, 658 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: there's no there's no So even like you know, decommisation 659 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: in the future, they're not there, and like it's like 660 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: it's not either or. And the same thing with the 661 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: darkness and the light. So like when I'm teaching my clients, 662 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 1: they have a new relationship with what they think of 663 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,399 Speaker 1: as dark because for me, in those loads are where 664 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,919 Speaker 1: I create some of my best ships, and the light 665 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 1: it reveals it. But honestly, if I was walking around 666 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: happy all the time, I probably I can enjoy what 667 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 1: I've created in the dark when I'm happy, you know 668 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, but that it's all necessary and I'm 669 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: really learning to like just like I used to be 670 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 1: so hard on myself when I dipped, or like you 671 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: know better, you know the tools. You know, this is 672 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 1: an illusion, Like I used to do all that, and 673 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 1: it was that was draining in me. Like it's a 674 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,800 Speaker 1: lot of matter, like invating yourself up as opposed to accepting. 675 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,919 Speaker 1: Like the thing that we've ultimately learned is that it's 676 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: all a part of the process and it's all for 677 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: our good. So that means even those lows are producing something. 678 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 1: You know. It's that I'm saying. A good therapist will 679 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 1: teach you what those lows, will help you to come 680 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: to understand within yourself what that low came to teach you. 681 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 1: It won't leave you with just a like broken pieces 682 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 1: and like, oh we figured that out, it would be 683 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,800 Speaker 1: like no, and that was so that you could elevate 684 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,839 Speaker 1: this or yourself or whatever. You know. So I really 685 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 1: am really looking at how things compliment um and not 686 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: like not or I think that or is even a columnize. 687 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: It's a it's a polarity. It's a polarity instead of 688 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: like being because I realized recently, like the darkness of 689 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: grief is an initiation. Now if this is like okay, 690 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: I'm an initiation to put everything up to question because 691 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying, okay, now this is done. Is part of 692 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: life is done? And I'm in this new place. Well, 693 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: well now everything's on the table. Why am I doing that? 694 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,280 Speaker 1: Why why do I believe that? You know? Oh my gosh, 695 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 1: this is like so sad. But what you're saying right 696 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: now about grief and stuff is reminding me of what 697 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: Lauren London said at Nipsey Hustle's funeral about grief or 698 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: being the final act of love and just like the 699 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: way that she spoke about, you know, like loving him, 700 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 1: and the way I've seen his mom talk to about 701 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: like just accepting and preparing for debt and just the 702 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: lens through which they're coping with like this really tragic murder. 703 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just drawing connections for me right 704 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,839 Speaker 1: now with what you're saying, because part of her lens 705 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: is as Afro science spiritual technology. Yet those words and 706 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: we were like, oh okay, and if you and someone 707 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 1: was writing about this, if you look at how the 708 00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: community grieved, again, that wasn't awakening of ancestral technology. Because 709 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: no one told us to go put the candles there, 710 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: no one told us to bring the stage. No one 711 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: told And it was kind of like intuitively, you look 712 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: and there's like a huge shrine. Right, like we have 713 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: been told you don't do shrines anymore, right, like the 714 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: idea that like you only go to this church on 715 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 1: this thing, this thing, but here separately, we created one 716 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: big communal shrine. Even the way, even the way that 717 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 1: they traveled with him through the community was very That's 718 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: what our ancestors would have done, right, so that everybody 719 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 1: was a chance to like celebrate indigenous. To me, that 720 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: was something spiritually shifted, like you could see it like 721 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 1: in like, oh, we're doing things that we don't even 722 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: that we don't have to think about. Their intuit is happening. 723 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: And even like my mom was like, I want to 724 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,320 Speaker 1: go she knows that practice ari, I wanta go to 725 00:40:55,360 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 1: your church. I don't have church. But right like going 726 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: on three years and she's never said that, right, so 727 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: after she saw awakening happening technology. That's interesting too, because 728 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: your mom got her initiative from another mother. It had 729 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: to be like mother, mother, I've been saying it. You know. 730 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 1: I had to think about have have like my own 731 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: internalized sexism when I was I was listening to y'all 732 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 1: talk about film tech and about building things and engineering, 733 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 1: and I realized I was like, yeah, but we all 734 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 1: we built the pyramids, like I've been to I've been 735 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 1: to the pyramids in Mexico and like I've been you know, 736 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 1: I haven't been to the pyramids in Egypt or ancient 737 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,479 Speaker 1: Chemist yet. But I had to realize this whole time 738 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: in my mind there were men. In my mind, there 739 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 1: were men that built these things. I never even imagined that. 740 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: And then I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, of 741 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:03,840 Speaker 1: course women building. Wait look at the symmetry, like the 742 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 1: actual the pyramids in Egypt are set up as astrological structures, 743 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,319 Speaker 1: like they're in alignment with serious and like other other 744 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: stars and constellations, like who are the astrologers now? And 745 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 1: if you watch Beyonce, you're like, of course, yeah, yeah, 746 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 1: She's like, we got to get the pyramids in that. 747 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 1: But I'm thinking about climbing the Pyramid of the Sun, 748 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 1: the Pyramid of the Moon, and being up there and 749 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 1: looking around and I was like, dang. Even as I 750 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 1: was climbing, I thought, oh these look at these men? Yeah, 751 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 1: what kind of you know to be like hey know 752 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 1: this it was us? Yeah, definitely, but it just yeah, 753 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I think exactly what you're saying about that 754 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 1: internalized sexism, right, because if you're thinking about like who 755 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,280 Speaker 1: the historians are, they are men, right, so there, if anything, 756 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,320 Speaker 1: they're the ones that have been telling that that that 757 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,919 Speaker 1: story or the knowledge. But actually we have been there, 758 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 1: we have been creating the things, whatever happening is. I mean, 759 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: And when I was like, I went to like Monte 760 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 1: alban too, and I like I saw my face like 761 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 1: on the sick like I was like, I was looking around. 762 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: I was like, guys, guys, I was like standing next 763 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,840 Speaker 1: to it, like hello, hey, yo, like look at the 764 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 1: I mean, come on. But what's interesting to me is 765 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 1: the conspiracy theories you hear, like in particular about pyramids 766 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: and Latin America aliens. Na, it has to be nas. 767 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 1: Also the alien alias. It has to be the aliens 768 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,840 Speaker 1: because people of color couldn't have thought about all of 769 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 1: this exactly exactly. There's no way we would rather believe 770 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 1: literally c right right right. It's so crazy. I know, 771 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,800 Speaker 1: it's so thick, the denialist thing. So I'm wondering what 772 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 1: just thinking about the podcast us in all hard and 773 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 1: all these conversations that are being had. If you want 774 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,800 Speaker 1: to share with us any like news updates, announcements for 775 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: our listeners about you know, what's coming up with the 776 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 1: podcast or with any of your individual work where they 777 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,919 Speaker 1: can find you and listen to some of these really 778 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,799 Speaker 1: important conversations. We I think together we've set a really 779 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 1: clear intention this year to really organically reach people, touch people, 780 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 1: meet with people. So you'll probably hear more about like, hey, 781 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 1: we are at such and such coffee shop. Come have 782 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,799 Speaker 1: coffee with us, just like spontaneous and because that's how 783 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 1: we like to be, you know, we like to have 784 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: some freedom, but we also really like to connect um 785 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: so that and then we we we are weekly putting 786 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 1: out content. Every Wednesday, We're putting out content and just 787 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,320 Speaker 1: kind of growing in that way. And then individually we 788 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: have a million projects follow all heart you could follow 789 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 1: us and see like the work that we're doing on 790 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:07,800 Speaker 1: Our Heart definitely trickles into music and film and stuff 791 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,479 Speaker 1: with known and then like working with decommizing mental health 792 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 1: and pleasure and sex therapy for me. So it's just 793 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 1: together we can we cover quite. Yeah, we're really into 794 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 1: spreading by word of mouth, like I love you know, 795 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,919 Speaker 1: I love how great. I love Instagram and care about 796 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 1: and nobody said I love Instagram. It's my meditation, but 797 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 1: one of my meditations. Okay, I love Instagram. It's beautiful. 798 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 1: But I also I also love like the old school 799 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: technology of word of mouth. And this year we're so 800 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 1: focused on that, like we want you to tell somebody 801 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,600 Speaker 1: about All Heart because on All Heart we are Our 802 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,319 Speaker 1: most popular episode, which is like listen toimes like three 803 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 1: times more than every other episode, is our episode on forgiveness, 804 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 1: and people write to us saying that keep listening to 805 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 1: it over and over and over because when they start, 806 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 1: they don't want to forgive anybody, and they keep going. 807 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 1: But we know that that's is hard, but that's the 808 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 1: first you know, that's the first step. That's the first 809 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 1: step to your own personal freedom right, And so we 810 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,479 Speaker 1: talk about that a lot. Yeah, I've been thinking about 811 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,320 Speaker 1: that a lot actually, because I think in the past 812 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 1: week some like old traumas have come up. When we 813 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 1: were at a university talk um, some old stuff came up, 814 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,360 Speaker 1: and so I've been thinking about that, like what I 815 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,759 Speaker 1: thought the anger was behind me, and then I was retriggered. 816 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,719 Speaker 1: So so now what you know, I don't want to 817 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 1: forgive anymore. Now I'm stuck in the anger again. So 818 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,440 Speaker 1: how do I work through that? You know? I when 819 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,879 Speaker 1: I work with clients one, I tell them sometimes you'll 820 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 1: get a trigger and it seems like the same trigger 821 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 1: or it brings it the same thing, but it's about 822 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 1: a different part of yourself. Right, So maybe we feeled 823 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,359 Speaker 1: it emotionally but we haven't heard it's like a logic. 824 00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,279 Speaker 1: Maybehood it is like ologically, but we haven't thought about 825 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 1: it physically. Maybe we feel you know what I'm saying. 826 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 1: So usually it looks it's the same. It could be 827 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 1: the same trigger, but it's in a different place, It's 828 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 1: in a different part of you. One talking about spiritual technology, 829 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 1: boooo has on he has the herbs, I have the stones, 830 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 1: So teal floor right? Is my yes, mother, I want 831 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 1: to yeah, it's not right? Is my motherfucker? When it 832 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 1: comes to forgiveness and understanding. What that really means is 833 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,279 Speaker 1: show me the mirror that this moment is holding up 834 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,320 Speaker 1: and help me to see what it is so that 835 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:41,319 Speaker 1: I can like make whatever adjustments I need to make. 836 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 1: And usually within a day of holding that thing close 837 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 1: to me, it's like, yeah, and it's sometimes not even 838 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 1: about what we thought it was about. Like sometimes we 839 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 1: thought it was about like the trauma itself. And I'm talking, 840 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,720 Speaker 1: I'm doing a denim day at um Polypomona. Yeah, it's 841 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 1: so excited and we're gonna be talking about how to 842 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 1: hold a story um and learning how to hold a story. 843 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 1: And what I found is like a lot of trauma. 844 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,959 Speaker 1: There's a trauma of the incident, but what really people 845 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,480 Speaker 1: comes into my chair for is how their community held 846 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 1: their trauma after. If they had a community that was 847 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,840 Speaker 1: like able and process with them the trauma, they wouldn't 848 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,840 Speaker 1: be in my seat, they really wouldn't. But what happened 849 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,800 Speaker 1: is the community kept ree traumatized and kept asking for evidence, 850 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 1: kept asking for X, Y and Z. And that is 851 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,880 Speaker 1: really what they're talking about, and that's that's actually when 852 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 1: you're dealing with that, you can really rewrite that narrative 853 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 1: absolutely can reimagine that narrati lately. And another tool we've 854 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 1: talked about two on All Heart podcast is like tapping 855 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 1: e FT and really using e f T because you're 856 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 1: using these points in your body and our body is 857 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,400 Speaker 1: storing this trauma, right, and so you're using these points 858 00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 1: you're tapping and you're saying, like, even though this happened, 859 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,759 Speaker 1: I totally and completely love and accept myself. You know, 860 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 1: it's all about self acceptance, self love and like and 861 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,319 Speaker 1: saying even though this may be the truth, like I'm 862 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 1: building a new truth. Right. So that's another tool that 863 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 1: like I really find when I'm like in a bad place, 864 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:19,799 Speaker 1: Like that's one of the things I go to because 865 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,719 Speaker 1: I'm tapping on these meridians all of these places on 866 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:28,800 Speaker 1: my body. And trauma has a way of like overshadowing 867 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 1: a lot of things, Like it begins to it's like 868 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,400 Speaker 1: the blob. It kind of it's like everything begins to 869 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 1: go into it, and so when you're starting to do 870 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 1: the work and you're healing, it's the blob pulls back. 871 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 1: And so that's what I'm saying, Like we could be 872 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 1: triggered by something, but it could actually be related to 873 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,319 Speaker 1: something that is not directly about the trauma, but more 874 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:53,320 Speaker 1: so a person who was peripheral to it. It's really crazy, 875 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,520 Speaker 1: but it will come up. But each time it comes up, 876 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,360 Speaker 1: it's it's slightly different. That's the thing I would encourage 877 00:49:58,360 --> 00:49:59,799 Speaker 1: so because because I want people to feel like their 878 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,439 Speaker 1: behind or like, oh I have the first thing it says, 879 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,839 Speaker 1: I haven't done something. I thought I was doing the work. 880 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,239 Speaker 1: I'm regressing. It's not that it's just a new it's 881 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 1: a it's new even though it's the same. Thank for them. Yeah, 882 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 1: there are a lot of external factors that impact like 883 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 1: how we internalize the trauma. Like I feel like to 884 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,239 Speaker 1: what you're describing is when there's a lack of reception, 885 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,840 Speaker 1: like positive reception to your pain, or when there's a 886 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 1: lack of justice there's a lack of action, it can 887 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,880 Speaker 1: just make like overcoming it's so much worse. And you 888 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 1: bring up Denim day and the way that you and 889 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 1: I be a man in person was at cal State 890 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:36,760 Speaker 1: l A like doing uh, you knowining training for sexual 891 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 1: assault advocacy and um, you know, I think that a 892 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,400 Speaker 1: big part of that training was talking about how oftentimes 893 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,359 Speaker 1: depending on your identity, especially for survivors of color, there 894 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 1: is a lack of justice. So how does that make 895 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 1: recovery from trauma even more difficult and already marginalized communities 896 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 1: or transgenerational trauma? Because because you know, even if, what 897 00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,920 Speaker 1: if you're a product group whose bodies were used to 898 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,800 Speaker 1: just so called breed and to do all these different 899 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,800 Speaker 1: like it's a lot or to be experimented on, or 900 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 1: like there's just a lot. And so a lot of 901 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,880 Speaker 1: the work we're doing now is like your body is not. 902 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,239 Speaker 1: Our bodies are not like the ground zero. We're not. 903 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 1: We can't, we can't. They actually house so much power. 904 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,840 Speaker 1: We cannot continue to to run from them and associate 905 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 1: from them. We need to be in them to claim 906 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,720 Speaker 1: what's rightfully. Hour. I was thinking about that this morning. 907 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,560 Speaker 1: You know, some someone was asking, you know, my daughter's 908 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,800 Speaker 1: hair was looking crazy, and then my auntie was asking 909 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,480 Speaker 1: about her hair, and I said, well, let's ask her. 910 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 1: This is her body. Do you do you want her 911 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 1: to do your hair? Yes? And I said, okay, well 912 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,279 Speaker 1: this is style I have in mind for you. You know, 913 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 1: talk about my favorite kind of technology is corn rows. Right, 914 00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 1: So I can't do them, but I got dreams, I 915 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:54,960 Speaker 1: got a visions like I finally met like who talk 916 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 1: about a scientist. I met a scientist. I mean this 917 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 1: woman Lisa Boom, Lisa's making me up. She's like, oh, 918 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,360 Speaker 1: you got a little short piece, but let me let 919 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,400 Speaker 1: me do something. She like start mixing up, this little mixing. 920 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 1: Start that. Next time I saw her that thing, I 921 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,520 Speaker 1: grow like three, like what did you do in the 922 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,359 Speaker 1: at Lisa? So I was like, I think she wants 923 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:14,960 Speaker 1: you know, you want some break She's like, yeah, I 924 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,239 Speaker 1: want some braids. I want that. Someone else came and 925 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,880 Speaker 1: asked her, you know, do you like these shoes? And 926 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,600 Speaker 1: she just kind of was like whatever, and like do 927 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,440 Speaker 1: you want them? Should I keep keeping for her? And 928 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 1: I said, ask her like she is too. She knows 929 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,480 Speaker 1: how to say yes and no. She knows how to 930 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,640 Speaker 1: pick out what she likes. It's her body, it's her hair, 931 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:39,239 Speaker 1: it's her clothes, it's her expression, that's her. Let her. 932 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,320 Speaker 1: Let her be autonomous, you know, let her have that world, 933 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:47,319 Speaker 1: you know that world she does. This is amazing. There's 934 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 1: because there's so much more to talk about, like even 935 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 1: just bringing up like black hair culture is technology. Oh 936 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 1: that's my favorite. Yeah, yes, you your hair always it's 937 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 1: amazing constantly, and she has lots of my hair. I'll 938 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:08,399 Speaker 1: do braids, I'll do we've afro crochet. I won't purn 939 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,839 Speaker 1: my hair. That's not that's but no, no, no, I'm 940 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,120 Speaker 1: not going to that level. But I will I will 941 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,440 Speaker 1: do like. I'm like a real like I want real like. 942 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,120 Speaker 1: This is no because I haven't been doing No you 943 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:25,279 Speaker 1: ustill have a fresh press. No particularly Sky. Yeah, this one, 944 00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,080 Speaker 1: I was like, did I to I can went to 945 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:33,200 Speaker 1: somebody's shop. I mean black hair technology, black black hairstylists 946 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,960 Speaker 1: are the most brilliant. And I wanted to say, you 947 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,080 Speaker 1: guys used the word on want of your episodes. And 948 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,759 Speaker 1: this is actually the focus of my work as a writer. 949 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,799 Speaker 1: So I I write scripts to write, and I write music. 950 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,799 Speaker 1: I write, I write anything you could write down. I'm 951 00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:52,239 Speaker 1: writing it. But I write about women with genius. You know. 952 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,800 Speaker 1: We're working on a project together. And the reason I 953 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,800 Speaker 1: was drawn to adapting one of Thea's novels was because 954 00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:06,560 Speaker 1: the woman was genius, and that because was the NONI was. 955 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,000 Speaker 1: She caught me a genius and it hit like something 956 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,160 Speaker 1: in my body and I was changed from that point off. 957 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,719 Speaker 1: But she was the first person to say that, and 958 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,840 Speaker 1: when you say it, always bring me back to that 959 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,800 Speaker 1: moment because it definitely gave me so much more permission 960 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 1: to do the work that I'm doing right now. So 961 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,920 Speaker 1: I'm about to hug your right now. Yes, I love it. 962 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:30,240 Speaker 1: This is like our whole point of existing. It's archiving 963 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,560 Speaker 1: the genius of women of color, and it's like their 964 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,320 Speaker 1: genius is amongst us. It's just naming. Yeah, yeah, you know. 965 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Nanny Lamar. Then, thank you so much. 966 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,759 Speaker 1: We got to bring to we want to talk more. 967 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,920 Speaker 1: Cross two will be when you all come. Yes, I 968 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,360 Speaker 1: love it so down down, Thank you so much for 969 00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,359 Speaker 1: coming on. Um. I feel like our listeners are really 970 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,880 Speaker 1: gonna love and relate to this episode and the knowledge 971 00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,760 Speaker 1: that you all just shared with us, and our listeners 972 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,919 Speaker 1: they you so much. It's invaluable, um, and we can't 973 00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,040 Speaker 1: wait to have you on again. Yes, Cross Collab is 974 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,759 Speaker 1: an order, Yes, Cross class in the order and off 975 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:15,440 Speaker 1: the whole number. Yes. So until then, can you just 976 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,440 Speaker 1: plug more? All Heart? Where can our listeners find your work? 977 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,160 Speaker 1: How can they support you and follow you? Okay, so 978 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:26,879 Speaker 1: All Heart Podcasts, It's on Instagram and Facebook. We haven't 979 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,040 Speaker 1: made it to Twitter, and then you can find us 980 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,279 Speaker 1: anywhere podcasts are except for SoundCloud. We weren't getting no 981 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:36,600 Speaker 1: love over there, so that so you can find us 982 00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:41,839 Speaker 1: on Spotify, on Apple podcasts, on Google Play anywhere like that. Yeah, 983 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,439 Speaker 1: and then you know, just stay tuned because we will 984 00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,800 Speaker 1: be popping up at different spots. We're really excited about that. 985 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:53,719 Speaker 1: Um one of my friends does Hungry at East Instagram. Yeah, 986 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,880 Speaker 1: and so I definitely want to pop up at one 987 00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,759 Speaker 1: of the spots she is featuring and stuff like that. 988 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,439 Speaker 1: So we're exciting, and we're tagged on our all Heart 989 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 1: podcasts and you can follow us to knowny Lamar and 990 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:09,759 Speaker 1: Theamnia fabulous. Thank you so much for havulously made it happen, happens. 991 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 1: So excited, I'm gonna shop, yes, right at a Spasso, 992 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,200 Speaker 1: come out to a Spasio plug plug plug. So the 993 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,680 Speaker 1: first time I really ever came into contact with Thea's 994 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:26,280 Speaker 1: work was Deaf Poetry Jam. I was like, what like fourteen, 995 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,920 Speaker 1: watching women to women like I can relay not at all. 996 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,680 Speaker 1: I'm a child, but I feel it so deeply. It's 997 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,600 Speaker 1: also called bitch Eye taught him. I feel like the 998 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:40,520 Speaker 1: public renamed it. So we're our outre. We're gonna play 999 00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,960 Speaker 1: the woman to woman. Thank you once again for being here. 1000 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,439 Speaker 1: I'm actuately glad that you were bold and brave enough 1001 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,719 Speaker 1: to call my house so that we could discuss this 1002 00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,960 Speaker 1: woman to woman and trying to work somebody's things out, 1003 00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,479 Speaker 1: so we could compare notes on some dates in time 1004 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,279 Speaker 1: and try to figure out some of his tired ass live. 1005 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 1: I'm actually glad to be hending from the lips and 1006 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,920 Speaker 1: lift the lipstick on my man's collar, even though he 1007 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:15,759 Speaker 1: told me he was working late, just trying to earn 1008 00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,760 Speaker 1: a couple at your dollars, and I loved and not 1009 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,720 Speaker 1: trusting him, so his bullshit I would swallow, even though 1010 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,720 Speaker 1: my intuition would never let me sleep. So I guess 1011 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:26,600 Speaker 1: the gaps in our relationship or where you thought you 1012 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:30,040 Speaker 1: would fit in just an insecure woman chasing after man 1013 00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,080 Speaker 1: who's already got a woman. But your puss is not 1014 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,560 Speaker 1: deep enough for a real man's fall in love with. 1015 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,560 Speaker 1: And that's we already know, because I see your third 1016 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,080 Speaker 1: is so short that it already shows your best assets. 1017 00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:40,680 Speaker 1: So there's no point in wah time trying to figure 1018 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:45,440 Speaker 1: out what you're thinking. After all, he is not fucking 1019 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:51,320 Speaker 1: you for your mind and you're still younger hearts? Do 1020 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,720 Speaker 1: you think this is real? Cute telling your friends girl, 1021 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,640 Speaker 1: he's cheating on me because he really wants you when 1022 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:59,000 Speaker 1: the reality is that we are nothing alike. When he 1023 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,120 Speaker 1: can't deal with all of me, he goes to you 1024 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:02,919 Speaker 1: to get me off of his mind, but it never works. 1025 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,080 Speaker 1: Se he gets real still as he lays between the sheet, 1026 00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,360 Speaker 1: says he's tuning you out. And now he's picture of 1027 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,160 Speaker 1: me because you put up with that ship that I 1028 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,400 Speaker 1: just won't deal with cause I'm strong and who I 1029 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:15,200 Speaker 1: asked and and he loves that. He loves that about me. 1030 00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 1: It's just sometimes he can't stand the reality that he 1031 00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,440 Speaker 1: doesn't deserve a woman like me. And when he feels 1032 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,760 Speaker 1: that way, well, hell, that's when he comes calling me 1033 00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:26,640 Speaker 1: your dirty sheet. And just like a child, you thought 1034 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,200 Speaker 1: you would call me to share, calling me to disclose 1035 00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,000 Speaker 1: to me the color of my man's underwear, and you 1036 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,400 Speaker 1: tell me like I don't already know. Hell, I wollt 1037 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 1: him trying to tell me about how my man sucks. Bitch, 1038 00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:49,880 Speaker 1: I taught him, so, so why don't you do why 1039 00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:51,919 Speaker 1: don't you do me a favorite? And when he comes 1040 00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:55,160 Speaker 1: over tonight, and he's coming and you're coming, and you're 1041 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,960 Speaker 1: both coming. At last year, simply lean back his head 1042 00:58:58,000 --> 00:58:59,240 Speaker 1: and look him deep in his eyes.