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Speaker 1: What is up? Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode

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Speaker 1: of the Mets Up Podcast, Episode number one seventy five.

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Speaker 1: A little bit of a remote episode here. I'm currently

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Speaker 1: in Florida, been hanging out at the World Baseball Classic,

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Speaker 1: so we'll talk a little bit about the World Baseball Class.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about met spring training. A lot of

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Speaker 1: news have been going on in the Mets world, not

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Speaker 1: necessarily the greatest, so we'll go over that and what

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Speaker 1: everything means moving forward, as well as we have a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a fun little bit we're gonna do

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Speaker 1: at the end where we're it's March Madness season. Jersey brackets.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take all the best Mets jerseys as ranked

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Speaker 1: by the committee, which was you know John Johnny Stats.

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Speaker 1: He ranked one through sixteen. We're gonna go through our bracket,

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Speaker 1: tell you who we think moves on, and ultimately give

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Speaker 1: you who we think is the best Mets jersey of

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Speaker 1: all time. Of course, I'm here with James. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: be talking about everything. You guys know the drill from

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Speaker 1: how's New York right now? Is it like eighty degrees

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Speaker 1: in sunny like it is in Florida.

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Speaker 2: It's been so cold this week in New York. He

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Speaker 2: got out of a great time. It was snowing today,

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Speaker 2: which was bizarre. It's crazy that we went through Daylight

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Speaker 2: Savings and now it's like been one of the coldest

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Speaker 2: weeks we've had the entire winter.

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Speaker 1: It literally sounds like I couldn't have picked a better

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Speaker 1: time to come to Florida.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's light right now, Like I'm staring at my

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Speaker 2: window with light and there's like some just snow, just

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Speaker 2: like swirling through the sky.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, definitely not jealous. Definitely not jealous, just for some

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Speaker 1: you know, so you know what's going on here in

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Speaker 1: Boca Ratone, It's seventy five degrees. Got a little chilly,

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Speaker 1: so I threw a sweatshirt on because the breeze was

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Speaker 1: really kicking up a little bit, had a great day

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Speaker 1: watching baseball at the World Baseball Classic and can't complain.

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Speaker 1: Can't complain about the Florida life right now.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna take like a full month from right now

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Speaker 2: for you to have been the City Field more than

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Speaker 2: you're going to be a Lone Depot park in the

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Speaker 2: month of March.

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Speaker 3: You really get to know that place.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I am getting to know it, and it

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Speaker 1: is a fine ballpark. I think it's okay. I guess

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Speaker 1: we could talk about that real quick. Low Depot is fine.

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Speaker 1: The World Baseball Classic makes it really cool because the

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Speaker 1: actual events awesome, and the atmosphere has been incredible and

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Speaker 1: the games have been really good. But Lone Depot as

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Speaker 1: these indoor stadiums. I feel like they all kind of

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Speaker 3: Do you mean just because it's new.

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Speaker 1: No, because like I went to Arizona and Grant it's

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Speaker 1: But like Chase Field is again, they're all nice because

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Speaker 1: field like you walk into PNC Park, which again is

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Speaker 1: I mean, the atmosphere is horrible because Pirates fans don't

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Speaker 1: But the fans that are there are great, the food's good.

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Speaker 1: Like it's just it's a really cool stadium, Lone Depot Park.

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Speaker 1: It's nice. I can acknowledge that, but I don't know,

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Speaker 1: it's not a baseball stadium. It doesn't feel it feels

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Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, I see what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: It kind of feels that way for most of the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're definitely not prepared. They definitely are not ready

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Speaker 1: been fine, but like the parking garages are a mess.

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Speaker 1: Like trying to get out of that place makes absolutely

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Speaker 1: no sense. It's like a jigsaw puzzle that they keep

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Speaker 1: getting out traffic's been like whatever, it's Miami, it's still

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Speaker 1: The bathroom situation, you know me Crone's disease guy. Bathroom

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Speaker 1: That's what it feels like. They weren't ready for about

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Speaker 1: forty thousand people coming into the stadium every night, that

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Speaker 1: would be my biggest complaint. But like you said, that

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Speaker 1: This is a different kind of noise than I've ever

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Speaker 2: And it's pretty clear from just watching the tournament that

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Speaker 2: It's like very clear how badly all the guys want it.

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Speaker 2: We heard Max Schers are talking about it today because

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Speaker 2: but it does make sense to hear him say that.

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Speaker 2: But then when you watch it, like, yep, they think

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Speaker 2: They bring the energy. The fans have been amazing too.

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Speaker 1: I think one thing that's been really cool is, like

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Speaker 1: going back and forth with each other, and that's exactly

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Speaker 1: seen a single push. Like, no, there's been no hate whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: It's just been like everybody's loving baseball. Everybody's going crazy.

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Speaker 1: People are taking like Venezuelan fans are taking pictures of

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Speaker 1: this is one of the greatest baseball experiences we've ever had.

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Speaker 1: It's essentially the Caribbean World Series on steroids for them

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And the fact that's in Miami.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's sick. It's awesome. So, I mean, I could

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Speaker 1: And if you ever have a chance to come, you should.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, maybe I'll join you next week, who knows,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you come down and have some fun watch

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Speaker 1: some World Baseball Classic. But you guys don't want to

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Speaker 1: hear all about this. You guys want to hear about

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Speaker 1: the Mets, and we do kind of have to start

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Speaker 1: the episode a little bit on a sour note because

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Speaker 2: It cuts a little deeper because Kantana was a guy

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Speaker 3: Lose him before the games have even begun, it hurts.

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Speaker 2: But really what this means is that there's now suddenly

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent, guys that we've spoke about at

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Speaker 1: a lot on this podcast. We also have interviews coming

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Speaker 1: out with them. I believe on Friday, you guy should

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Speaker 1: Tyler and McGill content coming for you, which is gonna

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Speaker 1: And what we've seen in spring training the last two

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is pretty interesting that these guys have thrown

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Speaker 3: We're recording this Tuesday yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Any guys are listening, and I think there's a lot

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Speaker 2: just be kind of swing man in between reliever. Star

435
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Speaker 2: there throws some soft stuff, got a couple of innings

436
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Speaker 2: out there, keep the ball in the ballpark, and lukaz Luka.

437
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Speaker 2: He's been working back. He's really motivated to get back.

438
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Speaker 2: When he was pitching two years ago, he was effective.

439
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Speaker 2: He's always been kind of funky and kind of strange.

440
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Speaker 2: He's always been effective in the major leagues, and this

441
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Speaker 2: is just a guy we have his depth now, So

442
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Speaker 2: for these guys after McGill. To be basically seven eight

443
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Speaker 2: nine starting pitchers and an organizational depth right now is

444
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Speaker 2: a good spot to be. You wish that you had

445
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Speaker 2: those Taykingtana the whole way through, but we don't. You

446
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Speaker 2: have to adjust, and at least we are equipped to

447
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Speaker 2: handle it.

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Speaker 1: And as we've talked about, you know, all the time

449
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Speaker 1: on the podcast, this is why you sign all these players.

450
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Speaker 1: That's why it's so important to develop guys. That's why

451
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Speaker 1: it's so important to have a really full twenty six

452
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Speaker 1: man roster, or even more extended a forty man roster,

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Speaker 1: so that inevitably, when someone does go down, when someone

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Speaker 1: has an injury, if someone needs to miss the start,

455
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Speaker 1: if someone needs to miss a game, whatever it is,

456
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Speaker 1: you can have someone fill in. And it really doesn't

457
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Speaker 1: the quality doesn't drop far enough where all of a

458
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Speaker 1: sudden the team's looking completely different. Really, you look at

459
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Speaker 1: some of the other teams in Major League Baseball, you

460
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Speaker 1: miss one or two players and you go all this,

461
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Speaker 1: this team's buried. They can't do anything. The Mets right now,

462
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Speaker 1: at least are starting to build that depth, like you've

463
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Speaker 1: seen with the Dodgers and the Astros and the Rays

464
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Speaker 1: teams have been successful over the last three four seasons,

465
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Speaker 1: and you start to feel good.

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Speaker 3: We have a breaking news on Twinter breaking.

467
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Speaker 2: We's not really breaking, it's not it's like it's just

468
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Speaker 2: breaking part into exactly what we're talking about. Nathan g O,

469
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Speaker 2: who looks like is a contributed to the Pitcher List

470
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Speaker 2: or was just talking to Nick Pollock. He tweeted out

471
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Speaker 2: a little blurb from I think it's a Como article

472
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Speaker 2: because it has the end. It's very zoomed in just

473
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Speaker 2: one little blurb, so it's from It just looks like

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Speaker 2: has lb dot com fine like background color. Just haid

475
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Speaker 2: McGill's taking a tip from shares are and purposefully scaling

476
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Speaker 2: his fastball velsty back to try it and have to

477
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Speaker 2: powering yep, conservative energy for a middle of games and

478
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Speaker 2: to get the season going.

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Speaker 3: So it looks like.

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Speaker 2: We've got both guys right right of the rock, and

481
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Speaker 2: we've got a new curveball, and we have hard sliders,

482
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Speaker 2: and we have we have great pitching depth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, some other just I guess, like little tidbits to

484
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Speaker 1: talk about on the pitching side. Code I saying obviously

485
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Speaker 1: had that finger inflammation or what was the exact words

486
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Speaker 1: they called it was inflammation.

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Speaker 2: They were saying, I don't know, I think it's fingers

488
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Speaker 2: horness the base of the base of his finger or something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that he expects it right for opening day,

490
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Speaker 1: and that they're just, you know, just taking it easy

491
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Speaker 1: at spring training. Everybody. It's really hard, I guess, as

492
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Speaker 1: a Mets fan or just a fan of any team

493
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Speaker 1: in general, to like hear anything and not freak out.

494
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Speaker 1: But everyone also has to remember his spring training and

495
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Speaker 1: everything should be taken with a grain of salt. And

496
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Speaker 1: these guys, they don't need to be going one hundred

497
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Speaker 1: and twenty percent on March fourteenth like it is today,

498
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Speaker 1: and you just gotta be smart.

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Speaker 3: It's a long season.

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Speaker 1: As we know of a.

501
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Speaker 2: Similar oak we have, Bryce Montestioca had some forum tightness

502
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Speaker 2: and some people got really scared on Monday, myself included,

503
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Speaker 2: because I would have just been so sad something awful

504
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Speaker 2: happened to this guy after what's been going on for

505
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Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks, and the definitely not the

506
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Speaker 2: worst has happened. He's just gonna take a couple of

507
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Speaker 2: weeks off and hopefully rehab and be okay once the

508
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Speaker 2: season gets gone. You know, IF's cousin, that's fine. Yeah,

509
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Speaker 2: if those cousin we got, we got a little weapon

510
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Speaker 2: that we can wait.

511
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Speaker 1: Though exactly now, I haven't necessarily been able to watch

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Speaker 1: every play because I've been at games in Miami. What's

513
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Speaker 1: going on with Luis Ki me and Cake Vali?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 2: That was That was a moment from today Today's Met's

516
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Speaker 2: game was one of those classic Meable moments where for

517
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Speaker 2: some reason Keith Hernandez wouldn't like admit that Kate Cavali

518
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Speaker 2: is a power pitcher. He kept saying that, like y Ki,

519
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Speaker 2: Cavali's a guy who's the guy who pitches, puts it

520
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Speaker 2: where he wants, He's really realized in those breaking balls

521
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Speaker 2: and like anybody's like hip to the prospect world, or

522
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Speaker 2: like Kay Kavali at all, like that guy gases up

523
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Speaker 2: in the zone with a heavy fastballic of course, but

524
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Speaker 2: Keith for some reason, for innings and things and innings

525
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Speaker 2: and Kival looked look good. Kavali has some really kinice

526
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Speaker 2: stuff against some against like again, not the most not

527
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Speaker 2: the most potent metal line up, but a few regulars

528
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Speaker 2: were in there for sure, and this was kind of

529
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Speaker 2: a moment early in the game where there was like

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Speaker 2: a pitchclock situation where Kiome was up, but we know

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Speaker 2: lu Kiromy like take his time.

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Speaker 3: He's he's a very selective hitter. He was waggling the

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Speaker 3: bath around a little bit, and the.

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Speaker 2: Second Kavali got the ball back, he was set ready

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Speaker 2: to go, and Karamy is like rocking it, rocking and

536
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Speaker 2: rocking it, looking around, and the second Jeremy picks his

537
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Speaker 2: head up, kavalis in his motion and throws one, and

538
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Speaker 2: German just kind of like throws the bat out there.

539
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Speaker 2: He like barely gets the bad head on it, and

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Speaker 2: it kind of dribbles out towards Uh, towards the first

541
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Speaker 2: base side of the rubber, and him and Kavali just

542
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Speaker 2: start barking at each other, barking at each other. Kame

543
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Speaker 2: had something to say, turned his head, and Kavali then

544
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Speaker 2: dropped a couple looked like, based on my my talels

545
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Speaker 2: of flip breathings, some f bombs, and they were still doing.

546
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Speaker 2: Geromy is still getting them from the dugout. Afterwards, it

547
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Speaker 2: seemed like he thought there was like an instance where

548
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Speaker 2: he was a quick pitch happened. There were still thirteen

549
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Speaker 2: seconds on the pitchclock, and there was a little bit

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Speaker 2: of animosity which we have seen the last couple of years.

551
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Speaker 2: The Mets and the Nationals get into it with each other.

552
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Speaker 2: And when you're like the worst seeing baseball, like the Nationals,

553
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Speaker 2: you have to find these little ways to like get

554
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Speaker 2: at some of the best teams in baseball, like the Mets.

555
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Speaker 2: So it's gonna be something to watch out for this year.

556
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Speaker 2: Cavali did leave with an injury, which sucks to see

557
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Speaker 2: because he's one of the most exciting young pitchers in baseball,

558
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Speaker 2: like one of the few pieces of excitement entire organization,

559
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Speaker 2: and he was like shaking out the arm, which you

560
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Speaker 2: don't want to see. But it was an interesting moment

561
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Speaker 2: to see those two kind of get after each other

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Speaker 2: a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Missed a little drama. Missed a little drama today when

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Speaker 1: I was at Venezuela and Nicaragua. Yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 1: will say this too. You talk about like the pitchclock

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Speaker 1: and getting ready. The pitchclock's so awesome. I love These

567
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Speaker 1: WBC games have been great, but the fact that like

568
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Speaker 1: Canada and Great Britain were through four innings and it

569
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Speaker 1: took two and a half hours the other day. It

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Speaker 1: is just it's just ridiculous. It's so long. The pace

571
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Speaker 1: of play in these spring training games might feel weird.

572
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Speaker 1: It might people. You know, a ton of people still

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Speaker 1: hate the pitchclock. They're like, you're changing the game. Oh,

574
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Speaker 1: it shaves like fifteen twenty minutes off, But the the

575
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Speaker 1: fact is that there's more the same amount of baseball

576
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Speaker 1: is being played in less time. There's not any less

577
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Speaker 1: baseball being played. It's just hey, instead of having to

578
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Speaker 1: dedicate four hours of your day to the same amount

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Speaker 1: of baseball, you can now do it in three hours,

580
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Speaker 1: which is fantastic. WC has been great, but I wish

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Speaker 1: they had the pitchclock for it because there have been

582
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Speaker 1: some pitchers who will literally just take a walk around

583
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Speaker 1: the mound, fix their belt, fix their hat, fix their pockets,

584
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Speaker 1: take the signs, not step off, and it's like, oh

585
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Speaker 1: my god, it's been a minute and a half. Like

586
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Speaker 1: I didn't realize how much time was actually spent doing

587
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Speaker 1: nothing until the pitch clock has been implemented.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just higher baseball density. Like we've said, it's

589
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Speaker 2: not like we took an ending off the games. Like

590
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Speaker 2: we took an ending off the games I would flip out.

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Speaker 3: That'd be awful.

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Speaker 2: I've forgot that'd be less baseball. I wouldn't like that,

593
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Speaker 2: But there's still twenty seven outs on both sides, Like

594
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Speaker 2: that's the whole point.

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Speaker 1: And dude, it's Bobcoozy when he was dribbling in circles

596
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Speaker 1: running down the clock when they were up five with

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Speaker 1: three minutes left.

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Speaker 3: There used to be no shot clock in basketball.

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Speaker 2: I've been doing some research fancy double torment stuff from Mojo,

600
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Speaker 2: just like getting the social accounts rocking. And I did

601
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Speaker 2: a threat about the five biggest comebacks anty double A history,

602
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Speaker 2: and like, the eighth biggest comeback in NTI double history

603
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Speaker 2: was a seventeen point comeback. I think Cincinnati is one

604
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Speaker 2: of the team's evolves. I forget the other one. In

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Speaker 2: nineteen sixty three or sixty five or sixty seven, they

606
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Speaker 2: made a seventeen point comeback with no shot clocking, no

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Speaker 2: three point line.

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Speaker 1: How's it even possible?

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Speaker 3: How bad? How stupid do you.

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Speaker 4: Have to be?

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Speaker 2: Is the go as the winning team to let that happen? Well,

612
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Speaker 2: eventually they cut it to seven. Just stop, just stop shooting,

613
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Speaker 2: just keep passing the ball around, Like, what's wrong with

614
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Speaker 2: you guys, but it was. It's pretty funny to watch

615
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Speaker 2: a sport like that and now realize how far the

616
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Speaker 2: game has come, and I feel like there's gonna be

617
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Speaker 2: a moment in baseball in like three years where like, wow,

618
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Speaker 2: we used to take how much time between pitches? That's ridiculous,

619
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Speaker 2: And it's kind of cool to watch these games in

620
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Speaker 2: spring training and be like bang bang out, bang bang out.

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Speaker 2: But it's gonna add this little cat and mass element

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Speaker 2: that I think a lot of people aren't totally ready

623
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Speaker 2: for that. Maybe this situation just kind of pulls on

624
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Speaker 2: this Kavali Yurmay thing where the younger players actually have

625
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 2: significantly more experience with this than more the veterans because

626
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Speaker 2: they've been using it in minor leagues and the followleague

627
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Speaker 2: for the last few years, so they kind of have

628
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Speaker 2: been practed to seeing how to play this game with

629
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Speaker 2: hitter as well. Here's the major leagues are very much

630
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Speaker 2: use to being able to do absolutely their own thing,

631
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Speaker 2: which that is That just kind of gave me in

632
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Speaker 2: the moment, that's gonna be a cool thing to watch.

633
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Speaker 3: Early in the season, well, we.

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Speaker 1: Even saw it a little bit, I guess on the

635
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Speaker 1: other side where Surezer was trying to like figure out

636
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Speaker 1: how he could. I don't want to say cheat the system,

637
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Speaker 1: but cheat the system a little bit of like what

638
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Speaker 1: can I get away with? What way?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What edge can I gain? How much can I make

641
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Speaker 1: these guys? Wait? How much after the clock expires do

642
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 1: I actually have to throw the ball? It's gonna bring

643
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Speaker 1: a really cool element to the game along with just

644
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Speaker 1: make it faster. And I don't think there's any problem

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Speaker 1: with that especially, I don't know. It's just baseball's fun.

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Speaker 1: I don't need to see it for four hours for

647
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Speaker 1: the same amount of action that we would see in

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Speaker 1: the three hours. That's just just where we stand. I

649
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Speaker 1: told you, what are we gonna save fifty four hours? About?

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Speaker 1: On average over the season, how many minutes should be

651
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Speaker 1: shaved off of each game. It's gonna be about fifty

652
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Speaker 1: four hours. It's two full days. You get back to

653
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: your life. I love baseball. The two extra days, it's great.

654
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Speaker 2: Mess are going out west, like the third week, second

655
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Speaker 2: week of April, So going about a twelve thirty instead

656
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Speaker 2: of one to fifteen, it's gonna be a huge difference.

657
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's huge, that's huge for sure. We got anything

658
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: else to talk about in Mets world, or is it

659
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: time to bring in Johnny's stats over here and start

660
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: talking about some March madness except with Mets jerseys.

661
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, Johnny Brookly, let me all about the Hoosiers before they.

662
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: Lose Johnny Hoosiers there, he is right.

663
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 5: First things first, first things first. Great to be with

664
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Speaker 5: you guys. It's been a little bit, so I'm happy

665
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Speaker 5: to be here. I know that the listeners love when

666
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 5: we talk college sports. No, I actually hate it. So

667
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 5: we will we will try to not make this to

668
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 5: college sport heavy. A couple of things, Mark, I got

669
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Speaker 5: a question for you. Actually it's relevant to what we're

670
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 5: about to do here, the exercise. So we we love threadhead,

671
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 5: we love walking around saying incredible uniforms at sporting events.

672
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 5: And you're there boots on the ground at the World

673
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 5: Baseball Classic in Miami. So I got to ask, what,

674
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Speaker 5: what are some of the best jerseys you've seen there?

675
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: So? Why have you seen them ones? Because a lot

676
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: of them, a lot of them aren't Mets players, And

677
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, I felt I feel weird sometimes like

678
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: I saw a crazy one today. Crazy. This isn't like

679
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: a cool one. This was just absolutely insane. I saw

680
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: a Yankees twenty six Saquon Barkley jersey. I mean that's

681
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: that's that's absolutely it's crazy. So I saw that. And

682
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 1: then in terms of like World Baseball Classic jerseys, I've

683
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Speaker 1: seen a lot of Robinson Chirinos for Team Venezuela. That's

684
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: been like the popular jersey. I don't know if the

685
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: people selling them out of their cars like at the

686
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: parking lot just have an influx of Robinson Trinos jerseys,

687
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: but way too many people with Robinson Trino jerseys for

688
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 1: how many great players are on Team Venezuela. That one's

689
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: been blowing my mind. What has been really cool is

690
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: seeing all the Winter League jerseys. I've been there because

691
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: you have the Dominican Puerto Rico Venezuela, so you see

692
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: like t Grays Daily say, you see the Kracas team.

693
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 1: The Ti Baronez is another Venezuelan team. So seeing all

694
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: those jerseys around has been really cool. And like seeing

695
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: players that you recognize names with different numbers on a

696
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: different jerseys also always weird.

697
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Speaker 3: Can I ask then other question about WBC jerseys?

698
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Speaker 1: Yeah, hit me.

699
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 2: I was shocked on Saturday when I was watching Venezuela

700
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 2: to make a republic And I saw Rond lacun you

701
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 2: wearing a number forty two jersey.

702
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 3: Will you guys think about that? Isn't that kind of crazy?

703
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: I think it's awesome the reason he's wearing it. I

704
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: actually don't think it has to do with Jackie Robinson,

705
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: although I think there's a little homage there, but I

706
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,479
Speaker 1: believe his dad wore number forty two, so I think

707
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: that's more what he's paying tribute to. And I'm sure

708
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: his dad work because Jackie Robinson, I feel like that's

709
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: kind of the full circle moment here. But yeah, seeing

710
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: him run out with forty two is so bizarre, just

711
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: because we're so he was weird number with the Braves, and.

712
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 2: I've just know you've read our whole lives, Like, besides Mariano,

713
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 2: none of us have ever seen a baseball player wearing

714
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 2: number forty two, So it's just almost weird to see

715
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 2: anybody on a baseball field with that number on their jersey.

716
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,719
Speaker 5: Very interesting. Yeah, Butch Hosky and Ma Vaughan also were

717
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 5: forty two, and Ron Lacunio, a senior, actually was in

718
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 5: the Mets system, So yes, a little tie in there, Mark,

719
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 5: going back to what you just said about Robinson Chirinos,

720
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 5: Robinson Chirinos is a low key legend. So Vito and

721
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 5: I had the pleasure of speaking with Jet Williams down

722
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 5: in Port Saint Lucy, and we asked Jet, who some

723
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 5: guys that you, you know, you look up to talk

724
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 5: to a lot have helped you along the way, now,

725
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 5: Jets from Texas. But I did not expect Jet to

726
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 5: say Robinson Chirinos. To catch it, wow, And Jet said

727
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 5: Robinson Chirinos and did a little bit more digging. And

728
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 5: Robinson Trinos is a widely respected guy in the game

729
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 5: of baseball, so maybe that has to do with it.

730
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 5: But yeah, just you didn't expect to see Robinson Chirino's uniforms.

731
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 5: I didn't expect to hear that Jet Williams and Robinson

732
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 5: Trino's had a great relationship. But here we are.

733
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Speaker 1: I mean, you wouldn't be able to imagine how many

734
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: Robinson Turino jerseys there are. You're thinking there's maybe like

735
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: fifteen twenty, there's like probably close to a thousand Robinson

736
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: Trinos jerseys. I've seen. It's it's out of control, But hey,

737
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: baseball legend. I guess off the field a little bit too.

738
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 5: Have you seen any for Puerto Rico Machete Maldonado jerseys.

739
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 5: He's a very popular guy as well.

740
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: No, okay, the Puerto Rico jerseys haven't been as much.

741
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: They've been wearing like a lot of like the older

742
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: World Baseball Classic jerseys because this year they have like

743
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: the new one with the lighthouse, And I know because

744
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: I ordered a Lindore new Puerto Rico jersey for this

745
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: one and it didn't come yet, so you basically had

746
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: to buy it at the stadium or you had to

747
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: like live in Puerto Rico and get one there. So

748
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: there haven't been a lot of the newer jerseys because

749
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: at the team store there just hasn't been a lot

750
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: of availability. They have simply too many like four XL

751
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: sizes and if that's your size, like congrats, you can

752
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: you could get all the jerseys, but there is an

753
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: there the amount of those jerseys for the amount of

754
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: people that are there. You got to you gotta be

755
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: filling out with the mediums and largest that's the most

756
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: popular sizes. Need more of those at the game.

757
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I think the problem is that the mediums

758
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 5: and the largest of the first ones to go. I mean,

759
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 5: that's that's obviously the problem. Nine run into that issue

760
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 5: many many times before in my life. So as you

761
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 5: alluded to at the top of the show, we are

762
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 5: going to uh do a little bracketing of our own. Yes,

763
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 5: I am the one man committee here. If anyone has

764
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 5: a problem with the Seeds tweeted us, come at me.

765
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 5: I'm also Greg Gumpel here legend does a great job

766
00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 5: every selection Sunday, James. Before we get going, I just

767
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 5: want to say I did not appreciate your, uh, your

768
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 5: slander to the Hoosiers on Saturday. For everyone wants saying,

769
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 5: what did James say to you?

770
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: John?

771
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 5: James congratulated me on Indiana's semi final appearance of the

772
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 5: Big Ten tournament, which was unnecessary.

773
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 3: Just as far as I hid, the state got it

774
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 3: as one of the worst teams in the Big Ten.

775
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 5: Yes, all, they actually were very good down the stretch

776
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 5: second half of the year. So I hope that if

777
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 5: Indiana does fail to advance past the first round on Friday,

778
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 5: both of you no to just back off. Give me

779
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 5: twenty four hours maybe forty.

780
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 3: Eight about Sunday if they may game, can we get

781
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 3: at you right away.

782
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 5: If they win on Friday and lose on Sunday, yeah, no, no,

783
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 5: if they don't stand to lead the Sweet sixteen, just

784
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 5: leave me alone. It's the most wonderful time of the year.

785
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 3: What we're gonna say, chances John, Oh yeah, yeah, it's funny.

786
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 2: It's kind of crazy looking back, but Indiana basketball was

787
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 2: actually one of the main reasons I ever wanted to

788
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 2: go to like a sports inclined school.

789
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 3: It was I was looking, I was looking at colleges.

790
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: It was the spring of twenty thirteen, during my juni

791
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 2: year of high school, and I had a friend with

792
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: a few grades above me in high school who was

793
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: at Indiana at the time, and they were in the

794
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 2: East Coast Regional. This was the sick team with Zella

795
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: and Oladipo playing at the Spectrum Center in DC.

796
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 3: I remember against who.

797
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 5: But they were It was against Syracuse and I believe they.

798
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: Were a two when they lost, and I was like,

799
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: this atmosphere is unbelievable, But I can't go to a

800
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 2: loser school like this.

801
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 5: Okay, Well I knew, I knew it was going to

802
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 5: crescendo in some sort of an insult.

803
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: But being there and like feeling that feeling the atmosphere.

804
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, I definitely want to go

805
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: to a college that has this.

806
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, that was a special season. I was at

807
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 5: Indiana during that time. And what I love about the Hoosiers,

808
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 5: I'm sure you feel the same way about the buck

809
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 5: Ays and Mark I'm sure you feel the same way

810
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 5: about the game Cocks is that I wasn't raised at

811
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 5: Indiana fan. It's a team that I kind of fell

812
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 5: in love with myself, and I think there's something special

813
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 5: about that. You know, our dads made us Mets fans,

814
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 5: and I'm sure that's the case for a lot of

815
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 5: our listeners. Is the fandom is passed down. There's something

816
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 5: special about an organic fandom that you just kind of

817
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 5: grow within yourself. So you know, whatever happens, it's going

818
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 5: to be fun. What I think we can all agree

819
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 5: on is that the committee youto, you can bleep that Rutgers,

820
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 5: how dare they? How dare they? That's Jersey canceled, that's

821
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 5: Jersey erasure. Don't appreciate that at all. But anyway, I

822
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 5: would put Rutgers in my bracket. But this bracket is

823
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 5: all about the sixteen greatest uniforms in New York Mets history.

824
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 5: So like any other bracket, we set it up one sixteen,

825
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 5: two fifteen, three fourteen, so on and so forth. I

826
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 5: am going to throw the matchup out there, and Mark

827
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,239
Speaker 5: and James, you were going to debate. One jersey will

828
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 5: move on, one jersey will go home. There is no NIT,

829
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 5: there's no CBI here. This is the Big Dance. So

830
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 5: without further ado, let's get going our first matchup, the

831
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 5: one sixteen. There's only been one one sixteen upset all time.

832
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 5: I don't think we'll have any UNBC here.

833
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: No.

834
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 5: The one seed is the racing stripes, the ones, the

835
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 5: Mets War and I eighty six, and the sixteen seed,

836
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 5: the underdog plus two thousand underdog is the twenty fourteen

837
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 5: Orange lost Mets jersey. Fellas take it.

838
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: Away, Yeah, I mean give the orange lost Mets jersey.

839
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: Everyone remembers it, and I don't necessarily know if it's

840
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: for good or bad reasons. I think they hit a

841
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: walk off. I think with those jerseys on in that game,

842
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: or at least one of the games wearing them, they're different,

843
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: don't We don't really get a lot of Orange Mets jerseys.

844
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: I think that might be the only one that they

845
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: actually wore in a regular season game ever, if I

846
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: remember correctly, because the other one was spring training jerseys

847
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: and batting practice. But you're not being The eighty six

848
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: jersey just combined with the fact that they won a

849
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: World Series that year, so it means a lot. It's

850
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: an iconic look with the racing stripes. It's a jersey

851
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: that I own. I want to make sure, like when

852
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: I became Mets founds like I want one of those.

853
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: They look awesome. I think it's a great throwback. I'm

854
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: voting racing stripes here.

855
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, racing stripe is not even close. It's probably a

856
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: twenty four point spread, and I might even cover it.

857
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 2: Most Mets jers is a fun novelty though. It's just

858
00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 2: one of those like silly things and it's kind of

859
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: a player. They had a spring training jersey a couple

860
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 2: of years I think before this where they had.

861
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 3: The orange jersey. Were terrible with the blue accidents. Those

862
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 3: are hilarious art.

863
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 5: How days the art? How days? Yes? Those where the art?

864
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 3: How days? Yeah?

865
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 4: That was?

866
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 3: That was That was a dark time message for sure.

867
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 2: Dalgo Mike Cameron was the beginning of the beginning of

868
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 2: the Chris Benson era. Yeah, some Piazza that was that

869
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 2: was that was slow Piazza shadow Mike Piazza taking Italy

870
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: to pass.

871
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 5: The to the quarter finals of WBC.

872
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 2: We didn't even say that that was unbelievable, led by

873
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: their uh, their dynamic gase Matt Harvey. But had digress.

874
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: It's easily the racing stripes easily. The racing stripes moving

875
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 2: on to the next round.

876
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 5: The racing stripes move on. You mentioned the orange spring

877
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 5: training jerseys. So the Mets and Orioles used to play

878
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 5: a lot. The Orioles called Fort Lauderdale There's spring training home,

879
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 5: and whenever the two teams would get together, it was

880
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 5: way too much orange on the diamonds. So that was

881
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 5: that was always terrible on the eyes. Okay, so the

882
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 5: racing stripes move on. Now we move on to the

883
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 5: eight to nine matchup, which she's a battle between the

884
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 5: ice cream alternate jerseys and the first rendition of blue

885
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 5: alternates for younger Met fans. And I mean, I'm not

886
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 5: that young. I don't remember these at all. In nineteen

887
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 5: eighty two, the Mets debuted a blue uniform which went

888
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 5: away for a while and then came back in the

889
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 5: early twenty tenths, so you guys have had a chance

890
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 5: to look at both. The ice cream alternatives are beautiful.

891
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 5: What do you guys think?

892
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 2: I will say that you mentioned the fact that this

893
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 2: jersey went away for a while and came back. I

894
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 2: like the pullover style of this so without the piping,

895
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 2: significantly more than when the Mets did bring it back

896
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 2: as a button down with the piping, like this one

897
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 2: was with the orange collar and a bit of orange

898
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: on the sleeves. I think is one of the most

899
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 2: fun jerseys the Mets actually have had. And I like

900
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 2: these ice cream ones a lot as a novelty. I

901
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,959
Speaker 2: think they're hysterical with white hats. I can't even believe

902
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 2: that there is something they chose to wear. But in

903
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 2: terms of just a jersey that I would want, I

904
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: think it look good, feel good, feel good, play good.

905
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 2: I'm definitely taking the blue alternates here.

906
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: We're talking about we're doing the jersey bracket, we are

907
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: we strictly talking about the jersey or we including the hat,

908
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: because you know, if it's a full uniform, it makes

909
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: it a little bit closer for sure. I think though

910
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: the fact that that jersey that they do wear. It's

911
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: just a difference of a white hat. I think it

912
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: does lead me more to the blue alternate of the

913
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: first one, because again it's like it's a legendary too.

914
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: It's the first time the Mets a rock in the

915
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: blue jerseys, and it is a really good looking one.

916
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: Like it looks a little bp ish now, but I

917
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: think for the time probably fit a little better. And

918
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: to me, I'm gonna pick the blue alternate.

919
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't see too many of those around city Field.

920
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 5: That's actually a really really cool jersey. The problem with

921
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 5: the ice cream jersey is that you cannot wear that

922
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 5: before like July. Honestly, you cannot wear that at all. So,

923
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 5: like Mark said, it's a novelty, but it really is limited.

924
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 5: I think in the wear ability. Once Labor Day hits,

925
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 5: you're out.

926
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: So I think if it was a hat bracket, that

927
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: white Mets hat incredibly underrated, incredibly underrated, Like a good

928
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 1: white Mets hat looks really awesome. But as a whole jersey,

929
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: I think, like you said, it was a good seating, John.

930
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: So far your seating has been on point. Let's see

931
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: how it goes.

932
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you that's funny.

933
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 5: Impreciate that.

934
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have one of these white hats in my parents' house,

935
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 2: but it was from my grandfather, which is where I

936
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: get them. Met the Dirty Mets how they always wear

937
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 2: all the time on the show, went around city field,

938
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: same one for this one, but it was just used

939
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 2: forever to like for some reason, my grandma used a

940
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 2: whole change. So it's the shape is so out of

941
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: sorts now and I can't, like, I can't fix it.

942
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 2: But it's a sweet hat, and it's like, it's no,

943
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: it's like sitting in like parents done some work in

944
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 2: the house, but it's like sitting on the dresser and

945
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's a cool freaking hat.

946
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 3: I wish I could wear that hat. But it's a

947
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 3: good one.

948
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 5: It is a good one, and who knows, maybe one

949
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 5: day there will be a new version of it. So

950
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 5: the racing stripe moves on, the blue moves on. They'll

951
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 5: meet in the second round, but let's continue with the

952
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 5: first round. Our next matchup is a five to twelve

953
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 5: battle between the nineteen ninety nine snow Whites with no

954
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 5: name on the back. The Mets didn't do that for

955
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 5: one year following suit the Red Sox and the Yankees

956
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 5: against the twelve seed, a two button pullover from nineteen

957
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 5: Have any eight Joe Tory days of Mets baseball?

958
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh this one, this one's tough. Here's what I'll

959
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: say about the no name on the back. It just

960
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: it looks weird. I don't like copying the Yankees on anything.

961
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: It maybe winning that would be about the only thing

962
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: I'd ever really want to copy them on is championships.

963
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: And I even hate I feel sick saying that out loud,

964
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: but I don't like the no name look on the

965
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: back for the Mets. It just it's a very uncomfortable

966
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: feel for me and a man five twelves. Man, these

967
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: are always tough matches because I don't particularly like the

968
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: other jersey either. It looks like a pajama top to me.

969
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, it looks like like a night shirt.

970
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: And they're both pretty bad. But I'm gonna take the

971
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: night shirt cause I think it's less bad. So that's

972
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: where I'm gonna go. There.

973
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 2: See, this is a disagreement because I do like the

974
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 2: white the snow white jersey a lot.

975
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 3: I don't.

976
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 2: I think the no name on the back thing is

977
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 2: a sticking point, but just simply as a jersey. This

978
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 2: is one of the first Mets jerseys that I, like,

979
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 2: I remember recognized took in.

980
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 3: I had a David Red jersey like this, of course

981
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 3: when they did put names on the back of them.

982
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 3: But I just I can't.

983
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 2: I look at the nineteen seventy New Jersey. I think

984
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: about how awful that team was, how bizarre this jersey was.

985
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, I can't. There's no way I could possibly

986
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 3: pick that to move on to the next round.

987
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 5: So we've got a split decision here, So I feel

988
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 5: like the committee's got to just step in and kind

989
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 5: of be the arbiter. This is what I will say.

990
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 5: I'm gonna give the decision to the snow white with

991
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 5: no name for two reasons. The first one is those

992
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 5: are good days of Mets baseball. Robin vent turned at

993
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 5: the Grand Slam single in that jersey. Mike Piazza was

994
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 5: a Met. Also, the hat they wore with those jerseys,

995
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 5: the black hat with the blue brim, Yeah, a hat

996
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 5: that's been lost in Mets history. Me personally my favorite

997
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 5: Mets hat. I probably had about nine of them growing up.

998
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 5: I don't know why, but my dad just kept getting

999
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 5: me more of them Johnny hats. That's rights great hour

1000
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 5: of Mets baseball. A great hat they wore with You

1001
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 5: could wear with the blue, you could wear it with anything,

1002
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 5: like you said. The other one was a little pajamma.

1003
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 5: It was like they got lazy, like they decided to

1004
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 5: start something with the buttons or not buttoning, and then

1005
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 5: they're like, yeah, forget it, just take it. We're done.

1006
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 5: And for me, like need I need all or nothing?

1007
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 5: So the snow whites with the no names are gonna

1008
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 5: move on here to the next round. Now we move

1009
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 5: on to the four thirteen matchup, a matchup between the

1010
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 5: traditional current home Mets pinch stripes and the Mets jersey

1011
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 5: of the nineteen ninety three nineteen ninety four season really

1012
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 5: lost days in Mets baseball, where the s drew a

1013
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 5: little tail under the word Mets, not the most popular look,

1014
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 5: perhaps even too highly.

1015
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: I don't know that jersey is not only like laws,

1016
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 2: that ara has not only lost in Mets history, but

1017
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 2: was lost in all of baseball's history. Even the most

1018
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 2: devout baseball fans have no idea what happened from nineteen

1019
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 2: eighty ninety to nineteen ninety five.

1020
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 3: Literally no clue.

1021
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: It's like complete, like complete fugue statee fever dream for

1022
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 2: all baseball fans. But that being said, it's pretty cool

1023
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 2: that this jersey was forgotten because it seems like the

1024
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 2: Mess tried to pull like styles from the fifties and

1025
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 2: sixties and bring him to the early es as a

1026
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 2: way to like kind of make a plea to the

1027
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 2: seventy eight year old fans that were falling out of

1028
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 2: love with the game. And the current home pinstripe is

1029
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 2: such a clean jersey. It's like a great jerseys, one

1030
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 2: of my favorite mest jerseys, one of my favorite jerays

1031
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: in baseball. I think I think there's a four to

1032
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 2: thirteen without much fanfare. Yeah, I think this one's a

1033
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 2: clear landslide win. We talked about the one to sixteen

1034
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 2: being rough. I think this one's about about right up there.

1035
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 2: The home jerseys are so clean for the Mets. It's,

1036
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: i know, not necessarily like a classic look, even though

1037
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 2: it kind of is. It's just it's so good and

1038
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 2: it's gonna be hard to beat that jersey for sure.

1039
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: That Mets one with the tail looks I mean, it

1040
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 2: looks like I could have made it on photoshop.

1041
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: It wasn't very good.

1042
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 5: Well, you guys have spoken, and like I said, perhaps

1043
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 5: perhaps thirteen was a little bit too generous. The great

1044
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 5: thing about the pinstripes is you could really match it

1045
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 5: with any cap. You could wear the black cap with that,

1046
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 5: you could wear in the back. In the day they

1047
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 5: would wear the black and the blue. Obviously, the all

1048
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 5: blue used to have a black shadow. Now it doesn't.

1049
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 5: But one way or the other, it's just a classic, classic,

1050
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 5: clean look. I'm glad you guys are in unison on

1051
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 5: that the pinch drives. Move on. Now, we got to

1052
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 5: some tough matchups here six eleven, the sixth seed the

1053
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 5: blue road jerseys with New York across the chest, and

1054
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 5: the eleven seed here the black road uniforms. Now, the

1055
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 5: Mets did bring the black uniforms back in twenty twenty one,

1056
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 5: but only the home version. The road versions have not

1057
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 5: made it back quite yet. In the nineties, the Mets

1058
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 5: had a home and road version of the black uniform.

1059
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 5: So we throw the screwball in there, the road black jerseys.

1060
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:31,919
Speaker 5: What do you guys think?

1061
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, this is a no brainer. I don't know.

1062
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: I don't really like that Blue Road jersey, and I

1063
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: know they got rid of it last year. I think

1064
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: it was pretty horrible. I think it was one of

1065
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: the worst years they've had because the silver on the

1066
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: blue with the orange outline. Sorry, it looked horrible to me.

1067
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: And the black Road uniform here may be a little

1068
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: underseeding here by Johnny Stats, because I think that's one

1069
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: of the better Mets jersey that we've seen. So to me,

1070
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: this is a clear even seed upset. The Black Road

1071
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: uniform was so great again. James talked about like remembering

1072
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,919
Speaker 1: guys in this jersey. I remember, like, you know, Jose

1073
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: Ray Is coming up, David Wright. Those guys wore those

1074
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: jerseys at times too. Mike Piazza, so my favorite players

1075
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: of all time? Easy choice for me.

1076
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta go everything. Mark said that blue Road

1077
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: jersey is probably my least favorite Met jersey of all time.

1078
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 2: I thought it just looked weird. The color commedy was bizarre,

1079
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: and it was also like those are those are also

1080
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 2: not that great. I've never really liked the blue mess

1081
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 2: jerseys for some reason. I never I've just never really

1082
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 2: found myself into that in these black except that the

1083
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 2: one the old ones I love, but these new ones,

1084
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, Goda, fine, I don't know, but I like

1085
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 2: just the black and the white peather and this this

1086
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: that black road jersey. I also think this, this is

1087
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 2: like when Shaba's napier got in the torment with Yukon,

1088
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 2: Like I think that that was an eighty either a

1089
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 2: nine seed, and you're like, oh, this is still one

1090
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 2: of the best teams. I don't care about their See thing,

1091
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 2: I got my high on that black that black road

1092
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: jersey going forward could.

1093
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 5: Make a run, sort of like Rutgers in the n

1094
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 5: I T anyway. So what's interesting to me about these

1095
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 5: is that you know, the way that teams do this

1096
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 5: is you have a hite jersey in a dark jersey,

1097
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 5: right that's home and away. If the homey home team's

1098
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 5: wearing a white colored jersey, the Mets can wear and

1099
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 5: Carlos beltran if you remember his three homer game in

1100
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 5: Colorado in twenty eleven, they were wearing the black jersey

1101
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 5: that said Mets across the chest. They got rid of

1102
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 5: the New York version and they just wore the colored

1103
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 5: one that had Mets across the chest on the road.

1104
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 5: So you could take your home one and wear it

1105
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 5: on the road. You do not need two different versions

1106
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 5: of it. So yeah, kind of interesting how that works,

1107
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 5: but I digress. It is the black Road uniform that

1108
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 5: moves on an upset our first upset finally, and you

1109
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 5: know you can't stack all the good ones. You need

1110
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 5: a little upset here otherwise it's not March madness. A

1111
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 5: three fourteen matchup awaits and this is between the current

1112
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 5: Road Gray is a classic, a very hard jersey to get,

1113
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 5: by the way, you'd be surprised you go to the

1114
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 5: team store you can't find it. That's a three seed.

1115
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 5: The fourteen seed here is the Raoul Valdez days, the

1116
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 5: cream pinstripe jerseys at the Mets War what was it,

1117
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 5: twenty ten, eleven twelve, that era. Yeah, so that's our

1118
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 5: three fourteen matchup here.

1119
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 2: This is this is a puneo for me because I

1120
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 2: do I do like the Road Gray. I think the

1121
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 2: Road grades are very quality jersey. But this goes against

1122
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 2: live what I said already, But that cream, that cream

1123
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 2: bench chep one kind of hits me sometimes. I don't know,

1124
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 2: it's just super freaking silly. It is also a play

1125
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: like on the old jerseys, like it feels like you're

1126
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: trying to pull some of that fifty sixties vibes back in,

1127
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 2: And it was just I don't know that was that

1128
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 2: was such a bad era of Mets baseball.

1129
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 3: That was good, you know what I mean.

1130
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 2: Like that was like, let's sit back in watch Scott

1131
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 2: Harrison's rake John Buck like, let's enjoys. Let's watch Daniel

1132
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 2: Murphy try to figure that out left field a little bit.

1133
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: Like that was kind of what was going on then.

1134
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 2: It was just everyone was getting out there playings in baseball,

1135
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 2: and the road grays are good. But it's almost hurting

1136
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 2: me that not those are not my favorite Mets gray

1137
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 2: jerseys ever, Like I liked the late nine the ninety

1138
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 2: two thousand ones better, I'm like so, and there's a

1139
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 2: lot of gray ones on here.

1140
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 3: It's hard differentiate.

1141
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm I'm pretty indecisive here. I would lean

1142
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 2: Cream if we wanted to do a crazy upset just

1143
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: because I think that jersey's so hysterical and Mets lore.

1144
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: But I'm going to let Mark Says say is shpiel.

1145
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: I mean, if you've watched it my YouTube videos about jerseys,

1146
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: I say, I say the same line every time I'm

1147
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 1: a sucker for cream jerseys. I'm a sucker for them.

1148
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: They're just so good. Like I hate the Phillies. You

1149
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: guys know how much I hate that city. I hate

1150
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,720
Speaker 1: that team, I hate everything about it. But their cream

1151
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: jersey is simply one of the best jerseys in baseball.

1152
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: The Cardinals got a cream jersey. It looks great. The

1153
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: Twins got a new cream jersey. It looks great. You

1154
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: can't really mess this one up. So I'm so glad

1155
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,439
Speaker 1: I don't have to fight James on this one, because

1156
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: I was ready to because I you talked about you're

1157
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 1: not a huge fan of blue jersey.

1158
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 3: I hate.

1159
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: I hate the road jerseys so much. I only have

1160
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: them because I'm a jersey collector, and it's I don't

1161
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: think the Mets do it poorly. I just think the

1162
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: all gray jerseys, for the most part, look horrible, and

1163
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: I wish that Baseball would adopt kind of like the

1164
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: NBA with their road jerseys, where you have the white

1165
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: home and you have the color away jersey. To me,

1166
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: that's what I think is a lot cooler. I just

1167
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: I hate the gray. I know it's a baseball look,

1168
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: but I'm so excited to put the Cream Pinstripe through

1169
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: because those jerseys, like you said, James, they just hit

1170
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 1: different for absolutely no reason.

1171
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 3: Stupid, but they're great.

1172
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think they would have been a

1173
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,919
Speaker 5: lot more popular if the era in which the Mets

1174
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 5: wore them, for sure, was better. And I'm glad you

1175
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 5: guys both agree, because I was going to push the

1176
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 5: Creams through. And it's only because whenever I have myself

1177
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 5: a nice Saturday afternoon and I need a jersey on

1178
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 5: jersey to lose a couple buttons on. You guys know

1179
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 5: what it is, I am wearing my Jason Bay Cream

1180
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 5: jersey and it's and it's a classic.

1181
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 2: I love.

1182
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 5: I take it on every beach vacation I go on.

1183
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 5: You can catch me in Jamaica wearing that thing. It's

1184
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 5: a classic. So I'm glad the Creams moved on. Like

1185
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 5: I said, it was just the era. But you know what,

1186
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 5: maybe we tried it again and things are better. So

1187
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 5: the Creams move on. A for a fourteen beating a

1188
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 5: three back to back upsets that will loom large and

1189
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 5: later outs. Now we have a seven to ten, really

1190
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 5: one of the hardest to predict on a bracket seven

1191
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 5: here is the road gray with block letters from the

1192
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 5: eighty eight to ninety eight range, and the ten is

1193
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 5: the road gray with script. So the same base for

1194
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 5: the jersey. One with the block letters not like we

1195
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 5: have today as you see right now on your screen,

1196
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 5: against the one with the script New York. So it's

1197
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,879
Speaker 5: really are you a block guy or a script guy? Guys?

1198
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: I this one, this is this might be the closest one.

1199
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: This is really tough, but I think that they're the

1200
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: one defining factor is the difference between the two. It's

1201
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: what you prefer. And to me, that script, despite the

1202
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: Mets never really wearing it again, that script just looks

1203
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 1: really really good. Like there's that classic Keith R. Nandez

1204
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: picture of him wearing it that I feel like I

1205
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: always think of when I think of these jerseys. He's

1206
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: got the captain patch on his jersey and everything it does.

1207
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: It has the racing stripes too. To me, I'm going

1208
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: with the script. I think it's just a cleaner look

1209
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: and it's more unique.

1210
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 3: I agree, I definitely going with the script.

1211
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 2: They have that big y that takes over the entire jersey,

1212
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 2: which think is kind of funny also just hilarious to

1213
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 2: put to match up the Gray jerseys.

1214
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 3: Against one another.

1215
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: Usually you don't let teams from the same conference play

1216
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 2: in the first round. But Johnny Brack's over here is

1217
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 2: making his own rules, and I think I think the

1218
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: script takes. It's also so funny that there was a

1219
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 2: period of time where the Mets had two great jerseys

1220
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 2: in their rotation, like that would have made and unborn

1221
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 2: Mark seed.

1222
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 5: I'm with you, guys. The Mets in eighty six had

1223
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 5: Mets on the chest in script, not New York. These

1224
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 5: are the late eighties, after the eighty sixth title, and

1225
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 5: I thought it was interesting to put him against each

1226
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 5: other because it was New York first New York, and

1227
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 5: I was just kind of curious to see if you

1228
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 5: guys were script or basic block letters. So the script

1229
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 5: moves on. That's great. Another upset the ten seed. Now

1230
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 5: we have a two to fifteen, and two fifteen is

1231
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 5: really uh. I mean, let's think of all the two

1232
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 5: fifteen upsets in recent years. I could think of Lee

1233
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,720
Speaker 5: High beating Duke. I could think of what's another GCU

1234
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 5: against against Georgetown. That's another great one.

1235
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: The Otto Porter Georgetown team, someone beat Ohio State.

1236
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, right.

1237
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 5: I forgot about that. Yeah, years ago. They're back in

1238
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 5: the tournament. Oral Roberts could have happened again.

1239
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 2: That was the only was the only good teamhouse it's

1240
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 2: had in the last five years, and they blew it

1241
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 2: in the first round.

1242
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 3: It's a fifteen.

1243
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 5: Happens anyway. The two here, the original Black Mets uniform

1244
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 5: not the same as the current installment. They are different, definitely,

1245
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 5: some some small, but their differences. And the fifteen the

1246
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 5: Mercury Mets nineteen ninety nine jersey, which I started to

1247
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 5: infiltrate a little bit. You see it in the team stores.

1248
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 5: It's starting to make a comeback on the concourses at

1249
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 5: City Field. Wasn't around for a while, but definitely a

1250
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 5: notable uniform.

1251
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 2: So which will be Those Mercury Mets jerseys might be

1252
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 2: some of the stupidest jerseys in the history of sports.

1253
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 2: Those are unbelievably ridiculous. There's like nothing even Mets on

1254
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 2: the jerseys. They were like black and gray. The hat

1255
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 2: didn't have a Mets sign on it. It was like,

1256
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 2: what the heck, what the heck is this? And this

1257
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 2: this is this is clear as day. I'm sending I'm

1258
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,760
Speaker 2: sending the original black uniforms there. It's not even close.

1259
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 2: It's it's so these this this, this, this so far apart,

1260
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 2: is not even funny.

1261
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: This I can't.

1262
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 2: I would Mercury Mets is funny, and they have the novelty.

1263
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 2: I understand them being in fifteen with the Lowes Mets

1264
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 2: being sixteen, But wow, are those jerseys silly?

1265
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 3: And I can't. I couldn't. If I saw one in person,

1266
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 3: I was, I would just start laughing.

1267
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: I mean, they won the Southland Conference basically to get

1268
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: in on an automatic qualifier here because they are they're bad,

1269
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: but like it's one of those things where if they

1270
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: were once a year, you'd watch because you're like, I

1271
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 1: got I gotta see what it looks like on the

1272
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: field again. Like I think the Mariners, I think there

1273
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 1: was turn turn Forward the Clocker like back to the Future.

1274
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: I think it was technically the theme of Major League

1275
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: Baseball jerseys that year, and the Marinders had them, and

1276
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: the Pirates or at least two other teams that I know.

1277
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: The Marinders wore them recently, and that's when you saw

1278
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: Dee Gordon rocking the sleeveless jersey, no undershirt, wearing a

1279
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: backwards hat in the field, which made all the old

1280
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: people go absolutely insane. Because it's baseball, you can't have fun.

1281
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, Mercury Mets, that's it should die here.

1282
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,240
Speaker 1: Let's go with the original black uniforms. Its diven close.

1283
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 5: The best thing that came from that night was all

1284
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 5: the headshots on the scoreboard and everyone being martialized. I

1285
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 5: believe green Man shatout green Man. Everyone knows him. His

1286
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 5: Twitter avatar Ricky Henderson is from that night. And the

1287
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 5: other thing I'll say about that that we'll move on

1288
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 5: to the next round, is I implore you to check

1289
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 5: out the Pirates uniform from that game. Absolute fire. Okay, well,

1290
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 5: once we're done, go checking that out. If they were

1291
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 5: in this, they've been moving on to the next round.

1292
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 5: But moving on to the next round, here's the original

1293
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 5: black uniform.

1294
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 2: Before we move on, I want to mention the Cyclones

1295
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 2: are actually doing a Mercury Mercury Mets the Appreciation night

1296
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 2: this year and they're gonna wear those jerseys in April

1297
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 2: one day.

1298
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's fantastic. That is incredible marketing and I did

1299
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 5: not know that. I kind of want to be there

1300
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 5: for that. I'm gonna check the schedule if time permits,

1301
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 5: I will be there for that. That is fantastic. They

1302
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 5: do really really cool stuff in Brooklyn.

1303
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 2: It's happening the Saturday night, the weekend the Mets are

1304
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,280
Speaker 2: in California April twenty second.

1305
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 5: That's interesting to a wedding that night, and I don't

1306
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,240
Speaker 5: think I'm gonna go, so maybe I'll be in Brooklyn,

1307
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 5: although it'll be called that night definitely off the off

1308
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 5: the Atlantic Ocean in Brooklyn. But I digress, all right.

1309
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 5: The second round, the first matchup the one seed the

1310
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 5: racing Stripes against the nine seed, the original blue Alternates

1311
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 5: uniforms worn by both Darryl and Doc. I believe, what

1312
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 5: do you guys think? Who's moving on?

1313
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it short and sweet with this one

1314
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: because we've we've spoke about the jerseys a lot. Now

1315
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: it's gotta be the racing stripes. I mean, they're one.

1316
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: They're the number one seed for a reason. They should

1317
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 1: be the favorites coming into this thing. It's gonna take

1318
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: a lot to beat them. And I don't think that

1319
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: the nine seed Blue Alternates is good enough.

1320
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 3: I'll tell you this, I would take the Blue Alternates.

1321
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 5: I love.

1322
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 2: Those are some of my favorite mysteries of all time.

1323
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 2: I'm not even kidding about that. I think they're vibrant.

1324
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 2: I think they're I think I think they're good. They're

1325
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 2: a good cut. If I if I was gonna wear

1326
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 2: one of these jerseys, I would wear the blue alternate. Wow,

1327
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 2: Johnny Statt, this Memphis over Purdue right now.

1328
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,919
Speaker 5: Well, here's the thing. I believe ten minutes ago, James

1329
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 5: just said he didn't really love the Blues that much

1330
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 5: in general. EXCEP think we're talking about. You didn't caveat

1331
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 5: it at that time. You didn't say that. Well, even

1332
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 5: if you did, you can't have it both ways. You

1333
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 5: can't have it both ways. You can't. And the Mets

1334
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 5: have brought the racing stripes back not once, but twice.

1335
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 5: They wore them in six for the fortyth anniversary. They

1336
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 5: wore them again in twenty sixteen when someone's ass was

1337
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 5: in the jackpot. So how can the racing stripes not

1338
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 5: move on? I'm not saying that they're going all the way.

1339
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that this is just chop chartchalk, But

1340
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 5: I think everyone would agree the Racing Stripes move on

1341
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 5: to the final four. Now, who will they play a

1342
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 5: battle between the snow White snow names on the back

1343
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 5: or the current home pinch stripes. This is now. This

1344
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 5: is one of those matchups that you say, man, this

1345
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 5: should be like a championship matchup in the second round.

1346
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 5: Happens all the time in the playoffs.

1347
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 2: I think that if the snow Whites didn't have the

1348
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 2: no name on the back caveat, I'd be much more

1349
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 2: inclined to push them forward. But them being this bizarre novelty,

1350
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 2: like this weird Yankee red sock kind of lore, I

1351
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 2: will push the home pin stripes and the homepinch stripes

1352
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 2: and mes cleanest jersey. This is the Mets most formal jersey.

1353
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 2: I like the home pinch stripe a lot, and I

1354
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 2: would continue. I'm happy to push the homepin stripe far.

1355
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: Some would say it's a championship quality jersey. I think

1356
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: that the Mets home pinch stripe is a very very

1357
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: good one. It's clearly my choice here. Like I said,

1358
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: I wasn't even voting for it the snow Whites in

1359
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: the last round, so I'm voting for the current home

1360
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: pinch stripes.

1361
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,760
Speaker 5: All right, Well, there you have it, nice and easy agreement.

1362
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 5: No problem there. The Pinch stripes, move on. I'm with you.

1363
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 5: I honestly think these pin stripes are maybe the cleanest

1364
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 5: uniforms and the entire sport. And you know, there's nothing

1365
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 5: wrong with a little bit of splash of colors March

1366
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 5: and blue and not like navy blue boring. So they

1367
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 5: move on. Now we have a matchup between the Black

1368
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 5: Road uniforms and the Cream Pinch stripes. You guys both

1369
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 5: really really love those Black Road uniforms and the Cream

1370
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 5: Pinch stripes, so I'm curious to see who will advance here.

1371
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: We love those cream pin stripes, but those Black Road

1372
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: uniforms gets it, gets the good team vibes in there too.

1373
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: Like you said, the Cream Stripe teams were bad, they

1374
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: were bad, and I think on top of the fact

1375
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: that the black uniforms are awesome to begin with. Anyway,

1376
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: they're a little bit different with the New York across

1377
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: the front, and they were on some good teams. That's

1378
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: my pick, the Black uniforms. I had been fighting for

1379
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 1: them forever when they got taken away, and they're back

1380
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: now and I don't ever want them to leave again.

1381
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 2: I concur Black Row uniforms over the Cream Pinch stripes,

1382
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 2: cream pinstripes probably would have had a little bit more

1383
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 2: of a claim, like you said, if there was any

1384
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 2: kind of success that happened those but the vibes, those

1385
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 2: black jerseys in the late nineties. It was something that

1386
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 2: a lot of Mets fans of our generation can remember

1387
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 2: and kind of started our fandoms. I'm taking them all,

1388
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:42,240
Speaker 2: I'm taking them again.

1389
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 5: All right, I'm with you, guys. I think there's a

1390
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 5: certain toughness about the New York across the chest. I

1391
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 5: mentioned that earlier, and it's kind of making a comeback

1392
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 5: on a lot of the apparel that's been rolled out

1393
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 5: this year across the bigs. The city name, not the

1394
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 5: team name, the nickname, the city name. So I like

1395
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,240
Speaker 5: that Mike Piazza hit a couple of big home runs.

1396
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, those black unis, all right. The last matchup

1397
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 5: of the second round, the road Grays with script against

1398
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 5: the original home black uniforms.

1399
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 2: This is this one feels feels a little more difficult,

1400
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 2: and I think it should be. I'm reluctant to have

1401
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 2: a black jersey matchup together in the final four, but

1402
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 2: I just I have to still take those those original

1403
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 2: black uniforms with the Mets across the chest, the piping.

1404
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 2: I think that was a great jersey in the road

1405
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 2: grade script was good, But I don't I don't think

1406
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 2: it's good enough to beat these.

1407
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want those Road Grays back like I

1408
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: can appreciate them, like in this tournament format. I like them.

1409
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: I think they're better than others, but don't I'm not.

1410
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: I never fought for those jersey to be back. I

1411
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: never said that the Mets should really do it nineteen

1412
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: eighty seven road throwback game. I've been saying they should

1413
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: be bringing back the black jerseys, and they did Grant

1414
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: a little bit different. Whether you like the new ones

1415
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: or not, that's up to you, but regardless, they simply

1416
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: are some of the best jerseys in baseball, not let

1417
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: alone Mets history. So our original Black moves on.

1418
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 5: Well, we are going to have a matchup of home

1419
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 5: Blacks against road Blacks. The road ends here the final four.

1420
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 5: Here we go. It's a matchup of the racing stripes

1421
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 5: the one seed and the current home pinstripes the four

1422
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 5: seed in the first semifinal. Both have pin stripes. By

1423
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 5: the way, it's just do you like the racing stripe

1424
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 5: or not Wow.

1425
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: Oh man, this is like picking your favorite kid if

1426
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: you had two of them. It's it's tough. This is

1427
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: not an easy choice, not that I would know. I mean,

1428
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: Patrick and Albert haven't been born yet, but whenever they come,

1429
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: one of them will be a favorite, of course. But wow,

1430
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: racing stripes and the current it's like, you got the

1431
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: history with the racing stripes, you have what I actually

1432
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: live through. With the current pinstripes, What do I care

1433
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: more about? Man, It's almost like a flip of coin.

1434
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: At this point. My heart is telling me the racing stripes.

1435
00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: My heart tell me the racing stripes. So I'm just

1436
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: going with it with the gut.

1437
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 2: I want the pinstripes. I want the current homepin stripes.

1438
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 2: We're here, We're in the present. We've gone through that era,

1439
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 2: we won that era. We have to win this era.

1440
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 2: I want to win with those jerseys on. That's that's

1441
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 2: the cleanest jersey the Met's currently where. I like that

1442
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 2: jersey a lot. Do you love the black jersey for

1443
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 2: what it is? But that jersey is like the weekend

1444
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 2: or the Friday night, the vibes jersey. This is the

1445
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 2: Mets quintessential jersey. And I really really really like that jersey,

1446
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 2: and I'm taking the homepin stripe to go to the

1447
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 2: championship game.

1448
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 5: Wow. So I was hoping that would not be the

1449
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 5: case because now there's a lot of pressure on these shoulders,

1450
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 5: right yeah, and I can go I can go both

1451
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 5: ways with this. Let me talk you through my thought process.

1452
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 5: I think I know where I'm going. So the racing stripes,

1453
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 5: like I said, the Mets have brought them back for

1454
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 5: occasions twice. Now you've seen a lot of current guys

1455
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 5: with that name. I you know, you see it all

1456
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 5: the time. My friend got me at Robinson Cano racing

1457
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 5: stripe jersey a couple of years ago. However, however, the

1458
00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 5: original pinch stripes are just that original. They withstood the

1459
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 5: test of time. They go all the way back to

1460
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 5: the beginning, they'll go all the way to the end.

1461
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 5: You cannot go wrong with the pinch stripes. Now, some

1462
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 5: people will say it's a Yankee thing. That's not true.

1463
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 5: Do people say that when the Colorado Rockies wear their

1464
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 5: purple pinch stripes, no one cares? But no one cares,

1465
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 5: No one cares. Pin stripes are a baseball thing, not

1466
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 5: a Bronx thing. So I've got to go with James here.

1467
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 5: The racing stripes were great, but they were an era.

1468
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 5: They belonged in the era that they were in. They

1469
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 5: were an eighties thing. The pin stripes there forever thing.

1470
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 5: So the Pinch stripes, the original Pinch stripes, are moving

1471
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 5: on to the final Okay, now who they meet in

1472
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 5: the championship round? Will it be the black Road uniform

1473
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 5: or the original home black uniform?

1474
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 2: So much fanfare going through this here, you see, this

1475
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 2: is almost situation now where we can have basically the

1476
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 2: two current most popular jerseys face each other or bring

1477
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 2: in a little bit of Mets lore into this championship.

1478
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 2: And if I just have to look at these and like, really, nipick,

1479
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 2: because we're in the final four, seems very evenly matched.

1480
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 2: They've both been hot for weeks now, both playing their

1481
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 2: best ball of the season. This feels like I just

1482
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 2: have to look at these jerseys and see what I

1483
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 2: like more. When I look at these two jerseys, I

1484
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 2: like the way New York looks and the more than

1485
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 2: I like the way Mets looks.

1486
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 3: I do, I really do.

1487
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 2: Cultures are great. I have the Mets one of my closet.

1488
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 2: It's less than four feet away from me right now.

1489
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 2: But this jersey, you can I'm locked into the desk

1490
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 2: right now.

1491
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 3: A coup of the round. So avoid the city sounds.

1492
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 3: But I like the New York more. I like New

1493
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 3: York more, and I want the Road one to move on.

1494
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: Wow, man, we might be having a little bit Johnny

1495
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: both ways here because I think I'm taking the original

1496
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 1: Black Mets uniform. Like you said, I say again, you're

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Speaker 1: picking your favorite, kid Like it's not easy. But I

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Speaker 1: think when I put the two jerseys next to each other,

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Speaker 1: which one am I immediately drawn to? I had great

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Speaker 1: memories obviously with that road Black jersey, that one with

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Speaker 1: the Mets across the front. That's the iconic one. That's

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Speaker 1: like when when everyone talks about the Black Mets jersey,

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Speaker 1: that's the one that came back. That's the one it

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Speaker 1: already won. It already is back on the field. The

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Speaker 1: other one is not so to me. The fact that

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Speaker 1: it's you know, withstood the test of time, it came back.

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Speaker 1: How do you pick against it?

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Speaker 5: This is a tough one. This is a very tough one.

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Speaker 5: You know. The great thing about both of them as

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Speaker 5: a jersey owner is that you're drinking your ice tea

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Speaker 5: at the game, whatever beverage you choose to drink in

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Speaker 5: the promenade, no stains. That's a beautiful thing. That's a

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Speaker 5: beautiful thing. Could be a little bit too hot, you know,

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Speaker 5: if it's a July day and you're wearing the black

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Speaker 5: uniform and you've got problems, I know which way I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna lean and I'll just jump right to it. It's

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Speaker 5: going to be the Home nice. The home black uniform

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Speaker 5: made the comeback, like Mark said, and that to me

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Speaker 5: puts it over the edge. I'm an I'm an owner

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Speaker 5: of a Roberto Alomar black uniform from O two. I

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Speaker 5: still wear that thing when I can. Yes, it might

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Speaker 5: be it might be a kid's extra large, I know that.

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Speaker 5: But it's original. It's it's got the rawlings on the sleeve.

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Speaker 5: And when it came it changed the game. And keep

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Speaker 5: in mind that came first, That came first, It was revolutionary.

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Speaker 5: So it is the home Black uniform that moves on

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Speaker 5: to the Championship round, setting up a battle between the

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Speaker 5: current home pinch stripes and the Home Black uniform, both

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Speaker 5: of which you are around right now. So you know

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Speaker 5: what that tells me two things. Number One, we're doing

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Speaker 5: a good job. Number Two of the Mets are doing

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Speaker 5: a good job. That's what I know about this, this exercise.

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Speaker 1: This is great barsy propaganda, but this is also tough.

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Speaker 5: This is bad. It's great at the same time because

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Speaker 5: because who is gonna win. I don't even know Vito, Vito,

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Speaker 5: we need your help, you get any of Veto.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, bring Veto in for this one. Let's hear. Let's

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Speaker 1: hear from the roundtable of what this is. We haven't

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Speaker 1: heard from Veto. I'd like to hear maybe Veto's plea

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Speaker 1: for either side, because I'm kind of torn here, so

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Speaker 1: maybe Vedo can sway us one way or the other.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm a very big fan of the black jersey.

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Speaker 4: I've been thrilled for that thing to come back for years.

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Speaker 4: I actually bought the black jersey, the og one, and

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Speaker 4: I bought the pinstripes this year. I even bought a

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Speaker 4: gray one this year. Just have everything on the table.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 4: But I think that original pinstripe jersey.

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Speaker 1: As everybody said.

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Speaker 4: Pinstripes mean class, pinstripes mean dignity. It's not just a

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Speaker 4: Yankee thing. It's a baseball thing. I got that jersey

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01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 4: with that in mind. I bought it in a pee

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01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 4: Alonzo because I felt that was the right face for

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01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 4: that jersey. The black jersey's controversial. People don't love it.

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 4: I think if we're going for a unifying choice, it's

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Speaker 4: the home pin stripes.

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Speaker 1: It's never going away and it never has interesting.

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Speaker 2: I have to tend to agree though here. Like I

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Speaker 2: said in the last round, and again, I love these

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01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 2: two jerseys so much. I love the black jersey. I

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01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 2: really like going to the park on Friday night wearing

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Speaker 2: the black jersey. It's it's a fun feeling. But I

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01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 2: have to close my eyes and think about when the

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01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 2: Mets win the World Series, what jersey are they going

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Speaker 2: to be wearing? And it's going to be the pin

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Speaker 2: stripe it is. And again, black Jerry is the weekend there.

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Speaker 2: The Black Jerry is the party jersey. The Black Jerry

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Speaker 2: is the vibe jersey. But we're talking about we got

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Speaker 2: a play game of baseball. We gotta really lock down

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Speaker 2: for this game. We're wearing the pin stripes.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 1: I mean I thought for sure the black jersey was

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Speaker 1: gonna it was gonna cake walk here. Not And again no,

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Speaker 1: no disrespect to either jersey here, But when I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: of YouTube brain my tier list. If I'm if i'm

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Speaker 1: tiering jerseys here, that black Jersey's S tier for those

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Speaker 1: of you who don't know. That's the top tier. That's

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Speaker 1: you can't get better than S. And the mets Pin

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Speaker 1: stripe to me would probably just be an A. So

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Speaker 1: my vote is the black Jersey, But I think I'm

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Speaker 1: outnumbered here unfortunately.

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Speaker 4: Can I ask James a question about the vibes he's

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Speaker 4: talking about. When you say vibes, do you spell it

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Speaker 4: like with a Martini glass and a Z or are

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Speaker 4: you spelling it with an ib e? S?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 4: What are you looking for?

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Speaker 2: I'm actually I'm glad you asked that I would spell

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Speaker 2: it with a Martini glass b Z. I think that's

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Speaker 2: the vibes really going for here. I'm looking for I'm

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Speaker 2: looking for some reggaetone, some hip hop. I'm looking for

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Speaker 2: music that's going to make me unbutton my shirt in

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Speaker 2: my thirties, in and you anywhere. I don't know, just

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Speaker 2: that's that's what I'm looking for.

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Speaker 5: Well, for the last time, it comes down to me

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Speaker 5: and this was not how I foresaw this going. You

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Speaker 5: all make compelling arguments. Uh, you know, the vibes are

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Speaker 5: the vibes are off right now because I am so

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Speaker 5: torn on which direction to go in. But I think

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Speaker 5: I I think I have my answer, and my answer

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Speaker 5: simply comes down to this. I think that there was

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Speaker 5: too much of a cry for the return of the

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Speaker 5: black uniforms, and I like them. Let me let me

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Speaker 5: preface it by saying I like them. Great jerseys are tough,

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Speaker 5: you know, they fit Friday, the Blackout. It's all good,

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01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 5: DJ and I arc. Uh, you know, it's tough to

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01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 5: come in there when there's a sea of black and win.

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01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 5: But I think what makes the white Home Classic pinch

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01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 5: stripes so great is that they don't get enough attention.

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01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 5: And that's what makes a great uniform. It's like an

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Speaker 5: offensive lineman. When you're not noticed, you're doing your job.

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01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 5: When you're noticed, it's usually because there's something wrong. And

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01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 5: the white pinstripes they're not noticed because they're that damn good.

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01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 5: So cue the music, cue the March Madness song. Because

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Speaker 5: the winner of the Mets up Manness bracket is the

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Speaker 5: Home White Wowrip.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations to the jerseys, baby congratulations. I think it would

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01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 1: be fun. Maybe at some point this year when we

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01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 1: when we're on the field, if we could ask players,

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01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 1: which are the Mets jerseys that maybe they currently wear

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01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 1: are their favorite two? It's like that could be a

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01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 1: little little good content as well. Do they like the

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01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 1: white pinstripe? Do they like the black jersey? The blue?

1625
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 1: The blue with the orange Mets didn't even make it

1626
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 1: into this bracket, So maybe some of you at home

1627
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 1: or screaming that's your favorite. But that's what's great about this.

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01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 1: We want you guys to get interacting with us on this,

1629
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 1: let us know who you think the winner is. James

1630
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 1: is going to be running a thread on Twitter on

1631
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 1: the mess Up Twitter, I think over the next two

1632
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 1: days or so, so you guys can vote on the

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01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 1: bracket yourself and we'll see who the fans and who

1634
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 1: the viewers pick at home. So if you're not following

1635
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 1: us on all our social media at Mets Up, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok,

1636
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 1: you'll be able to find that stuff. And yeah, I mean,

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01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 1: bracket seasons always fun. March maddness is great and I'm

1638
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 1: glad we could at least intertwine those two a little

1639
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 1: bit without making everyone hate us for talking about college sports,

1640
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 1: even though you know, no New York teams really in it, and.

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01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 2: I own it, yeah, led by Rick Patino. Hopefully they

1642
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 2: spend more than seven seconds in the tournament and.

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01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 5: I'll be the Saint John's coach the next day, so

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01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 5: it's all good.

1645
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 1: But I think this is a great place for us

1646
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 1: to wrap up this episode of the Mets Up podcast. Guys,

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01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,640
Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening and watching. Remember to

1648
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:00,639
Speaker 1: follow us on social media at mets up. Like I said,

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01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 1: if you're looking for the YouTube video, it's on the

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01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 1: New York Mets YouTube channel. Go subscribe over there. And

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Speaker 3: At James Underscore Shiano.

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Speaker 1: And follow me at Traffnickmark with a C. Tyler McGill,

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Speaker 1: David Peterson interviews coming out on Friday, so keep an

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01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 1: eye out for that. And without further ado, we'll call

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Speaker 1: an end to this episode. Peace out, guys,