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Speaker 1: It's I Do Part two and it's your celebrity mentors

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Speaker 1: Jenniferfessler and Kelly ben Simone. And today is exciting because

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Speaker 1: we are bringing in another woman from the housewife universe.

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Speaker 1: You love her on Real Housewives of Miami. It's Larsa Pippin.

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Speaker 1: And we're also going to be taking listener questions. We

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Speaker 1: got a lot of unbelievable questions from you guys, so

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Speaker 1: here we go. Hey, Kellana both saying we've both met you.

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Speaker 1: I met you very briefly at Bravocan, but it feels

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Speaker 1: like you and I have been friends for many years

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Speaker 1: because I have been following you for a long time.

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Speaker 2: Girl.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I feel like we have so much

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Speaker 3: in common. Don't you feel like all the housewives have

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Speaker 3: so much in common?

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Speaker 2: Well, I was looking. I was just doing some background

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Speaker 2: on you, and we're both from Illinois. You're from Chicago,

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Speaker 2: I'm from Chicago. You went to University of Illinois political science.

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Speaker 2: My parents went to University of Illinois. So we have

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Speaker 2: like so much. I always saw everyone I was like

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Speaker 2: the housewives they never get the love they deserve because,

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Speaker 2: like we all come from somewhere doing something incredible.

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Speaker 3: I kind of went to the same school. So I

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Speaker 3: wonder if our dads were friends.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure they were.

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Speaker 1: Wow, my dad is.

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Speaker 3: An engineer by trade, so he went there to become

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Speaker 3: an engineer.

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Speaker 1: We have a lot of other stuff in common, because

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Speaker 1: obviously we are all three of us on this particular podcast,

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Speaker 1: which is about finding love again. So right after divorce

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Speaker 1: after death. Yeah, yeah, and I guess.

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Speaker 2: And the journey, the journey of that.

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Speaker 3: When I got divorce, I thought it was going to

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Speaker 3: be so easy to find someone. Did you guys think

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Speaker 3: that at some point?

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Speaker 1: I wasn't ever worse? Actually, I was separated for like

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Speaker 1: a year and a half, so it's sort of our

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Speaker 1: part two. I mean, we had we separated and then

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Speaker 1: we both had other significant others, and then we ended

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Speaker 1: up getting back together. But I wasn't out there, I

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Speaker 1: I didn't really get there yet. What about you, kel, Well, I.

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Speaker 2: Was thirty seven and I and now it's like everyone's like,

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Speaker 2: that's so young. But I was married so young that

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Speaker 2: like really uncomfortable. I felt like everyone was like like

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Speaker 3: I feel like all my single friends, I have so

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Speaker 3: many beautiful single friends that go on random dates and

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Speaker 3: don't like anyone. Do you guys ever find like, do

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Speaker 3: you guys hear stories like that? Your friends like they're established,

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Speaker 3: they're beautiful, but then they'll do a few dates with

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Speaker 2: I feel like it's both. I feel like the way

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Speaker 1: I always feel like it's sometimes there's like the approach

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Speaker 1: It's probably ninety percent not. So like take that pressure

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Speaker 1: not going into it thinking my life is about to change.

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Speaker 1: You're going into a thinking it's almost a networking opportunity.

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Speaker 1: It's not there for you. If it's not there for him,

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Speaker 1: maybe he knows someone, maybe you know someone. But like,

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Speaker 1: It's all wrong. I hate whatever hinge or whatever the

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Speaker 2: Share our Excel spreadsheet and be like like, here's our

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Speaker 2: have you learned about yourself going through divorce?

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Speaker 3: You know, I feel like my relationship with my ex

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Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, it's interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a really nice guy. I feel like I

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Speaker 3: picked a really good guy to have kids with. My

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Speaker 3: But when you really, I really thought it'd be much

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Speaker 3: you're married, people tend to want you more. Relationships, girlfriends, guys,

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Speaker 3: they want you so much more because they can't have you.

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Speaker 2: That was one of the one of the words advice

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Speaker 3: No, you guys, it is. It's literally like, first of all,

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Speaker 3: like the questions that we're going to go through today, right,

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Speaker 3: So basically like the first one, why are men toxic?

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Speaker 3: They love you one minute and are dropping you the next.

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Speaker 3: I think men like things that shine, Men want a trophy,

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Speaker 2: The lesson have you guys?

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Speaker 1: Do you guys ever heard of this book called The Rules?

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Speaker 1: It's been around for a longis you have, Hew, Laura,

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Speaker 1: have you ever heard of it? No, it was written

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Speaker 1: little while. But it's all about how men and women

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Speaker 1: are different and men need the chase period full stop.

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Speaker 1: Whether or not you like that or you think it's

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Speaker 1: But even with my own marriage, like Jeff was after

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Speaker 3: You're gonna be in the same situation you were years ago.

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Speaker 1: I know, right exactly he's gonna be like, yes, exactly.

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Speaker 3: Right, a good place. Just focus on all the good

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Speaker 1: Oh honey, believe me when I tell you I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: Jeff Fessler couldn't lose me if he tried. Okay, that's

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Speaker 1: just the truth. I mean he's my everything, but he's

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Speaker 1: But at the beginning, so he was chasing me, I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course guys always guys want to feel good.

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Speaker 3: And you know how guys judge each other is by

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Speaker 3: Like if you were with a gorgeous, smart, independent woman,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, interesting, No, I think that's probably true.

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Speaker 2: So what about from Katie where she says that why

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Speaker 2: I don't need a man financially?

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think that that's a thing. That's not true.

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Speaker 2: Are intimidated by women who make money, of.

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Speaker 3: Course they are, But I also feel like it depends

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Speaker 2: Do you feel that being on Housewives living in Miami?

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like that happens to you?

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Speaker 3: I think it's harder for guys to want to be

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Speaker 1: Yeah, expand on that a little bit, like, have guys

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Speaker 3: I don't have as much money as your ex, or

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Speaker 3: And so I'm sure it's in the back. You have

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Speaker 3: to be a confident man to come in and play

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Speaker 3: You You know, if you're not, if you're not comfortable

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Speaker 2: But I think also like you're a very first of all,

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Speaker 2: you're super smart, you're a Midwestern, so you have strong values,

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Speaker 2: and you're just a very kind human and so I

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Speaker 2: think that that's also intimidating. They're probably expecting you to

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Speaker 2: be like, let's go to Louis Vuitton on the first date,

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Speaker 2: and you're not. You're like saying these really thoughtful things,

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Speaker 2: which I'm sure they're like, wait a minute.

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Speaker 1: What.

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Speaker 2: Really interesting?

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Speaker 3: I feel like the girls that give guys Christmas lists

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like some of the girls here in Miami,

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Speaker 1: You mean? Why your power? Also, if he's paying your

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Speaker 1: At least I try. But my Nanda probably did better

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Speaker 2: Like it's such an emotional attachment, which.

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Speaker 3: They never hung out without me, They never they were

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Speaker 3: You know what's funny, John, because I feel like your

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Speaker 2: Jeff absolutely adores you when you put that dolt. When

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Speaker 3: Every now and then they need you to like do

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Speaker 1: They could be comfortable and you know, a boring environment

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Speaker 2: It's a it's like Hey, I'm getting divorced. It's like,

435
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,879
Speaker 2: first of all, that contract is a crazy contract with

436
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:42,439
Speaker 2: all these financial aftermath that just makes people ugly and dirty,

437
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,359
Speaker 2: and it just just deteriorates any kind of connection that

438
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 2: you had. And number two, it is just like Larsa

439
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 2: is saying, it is the wild West out there, and

440
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:57,120
Speaker 2: there are no rules, there's no regulations. People are all

441
00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:01,600
Speaker 2: over the place, and people are and cheating and married.

442
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,919
Speaker 2: And I mean, I've just like I've been like trying

443
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,359
Speaker 2: to be open to a lot of new situations and I'm.

444
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 3: Just like, Kelly, you got to be younger guys.

445
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Larsa, I mean watching the show, and I

446
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 1: know that the show is the show, right, I'm not saying,

447
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,439
Speaker 1: and we only see you know, little segments of your

448
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 1: life obviously, but in watching the show, I feel like

449
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 1: there's always been you. You've basically never had a problem

450
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,880
Speaker 1: meeting a man. I mean, obviously you're beautiful and you're

451
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 1: you know, all of the things, but I feel like

452
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,120
Speaker 1: you have where have you struggled to ever a meeting

453
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 1: in one? Because what I see, and again that's just

454
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 1: the show, is that you men love you like it's

455
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 1: not doesn't seem to be hard for you.

456
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 3: Fun, babe, jet I'm fun and I'm just kidding. I know,

457
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,120
Speaker 3: I feel like I have very young energy. I feel

458
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 3: like I like to go out. I feel like Kelly

459
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 3: here the same way like I feel like I like

460
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 3: to go out. I'm fun. I have good energy, and

461
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 3: you know, when you're positive. A lot of times people

462
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 3: go through a divorce and like we were talking about this,

463
00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 3: you become a victim. And nobody around negative people and

464
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 3: people that feel like they're defeated, and people feel like

465
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 3: they've gotten a shorter end of the stick. I think

466
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 3: nobody wants to be around you. But if you leave

467
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 3: a relationship and you're like, guess what, I'm going to

468
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 3: be better, I'm going to have more, I'm going to

469
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 3: get every single thing that I want. Then you attract that,

470
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 3: then that's what comes to you. You know, I don't

471
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 3: really have problem meeting guys, and you know, I kind

472
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 3: of choose who I want to be with. And it's

473
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 3: funny because I feel like I've gone through a different

474
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 3: stages since I've been divorced on what I want. I

475
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 3: wanted a dat, a guy that was really really successful.

476
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 3: I used to date a prince from Abu Dhabi, and

477
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 3: like he showed me things I've never seen before. It

478
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 3: was a whole different world for me dating someone that

479
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 3: you know, like traveled with his car on his plane,

480
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 3: never has never saw that before. He just showed me

481
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 3: things I've never seen before, you know, And I think

482
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 3: that it's like when you see different things and then

483
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, I'll take that off my bucket list.

484
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 3: It was great, it was fun, but that's not who's

485
00:22:58,760 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 3: going to be my partner?

486
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 1: Is it? Now? That didn't It didn't used to be

487
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: like what are you looking for? Now? That's different and

488
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 1: now I know you have a very serious boyfriend now,

489
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 1: so what was it that was different than other guys

490
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 1: that you can you know.

491
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 3: I feel like when I was dating the guy from Dubai,

492
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 3: my kids were younger, so it worked like I would

493
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 3: go to Dubai and visit him, he would come here

494
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 3: and visit me, Like he didn't have to be with

495
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 3: me all the time because I my kids were like

496
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 3: my main priority. Everything was about my kids, their basketball

497
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 3: schedules or school schedules, piano. Like I was like a

498
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 3: full on crazy mom. And so it was great having

499
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 3: a boyfriend that lived across the world because I would

500
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 3: go see him for three weeks. When Scotty had our kids,

501
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 3: I would come back and then be on mom mode,

502
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 3: you know, and vice versa. And I feel like today

503
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 3: my kids are older, so now it's like I have

504
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 3: more free time, and the guy that I'm dating now,

505
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 3: that I you know, been with, now has more free

506
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 3: time for me. So we're literally best friends. We do

507
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 3: everything together, like we work out together, we make breakfast together,

508
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 3: we do everything together.

509
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 1: So I feel like my what I have now is

510
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: what I need today, you know what I need now,

511
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: But what i'll is different, different than the other guys,

512
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: you know.

513
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 3: I think he comes and Kelly, you'd understand this. He

514
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 3: comes from a very like normal family, Like he comes

515
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 3: to his dad as an engineer like my dad. His

516
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 3: mom and dad are married for you know, fifty years

517
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 3: or forty some years, like my parents. He just comes

518
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 3: from a very cultured background. And I think, like me,

519
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 3: being like Middle Eastern, I'm used to certain things like

520
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 3: you know, like if my dad calls and tells me

521
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 3: to take a photo off ig, I'm taking it off.

522
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 3: If he calls me larsa that bikini picture, my dad

523
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 3: goes you published a photo, Larsa, take it down and

524
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, I'm taking.

525
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 1: Down the photo.

526
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 3: My dad's gonna kill me.

527
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: Really, Kelly, you two are like that.

528
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, are you kidding me? When my dad was alive,

529
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 2: he was like.

530
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 3: All over, everything's okay.

531
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 2: He would say he would package things, like if he

532
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 2: saw something and read something that my mother had shown him,

533
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 2: he would package it in a way that was trying

534
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 2: to be positive, but he was basically like, don't ever

535
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 2: do that again, Like I will you?

536
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 3: Like, are you like? And I feel like Jeff has

537
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 3: the same family. They're like the thing. I love that,

538
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 3: and they're very traditional, Like he grew up having a

539
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 3: mom and dad, so he knows what it's like to

540
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 3: have a successful relationship. I think it's it's hard when, like,

541
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 3: you come from a normal family and then you date

542
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 3: someone that doesn't have that. My ex husband came from

543
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 3: a mom and dad that were happily married and so

544
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 3: we co parented the same. We had a lot of similarities,

545
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 3: and I think once I started dating guys that didn't

546
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 3: have that, it's just different. They're used to different traumas,

547
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 3: Like they're just used to different things. That trigger them,

548
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 3: and you're always having to make them feel good and

549
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 3: you're always having to like.

550
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: Well, that was me. I came from the traumatic background

551
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: and the broken family and Jeff my husband. I mean,

552
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: you couldn't have gotten a more normal like yeah, like

553
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: just like he grew up, there was never issues. Parents

554
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: adored each other, it was but for me it was

555
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: the nightmare. And but I think part of maybe why

556
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: I was drawn to him, and then maybe part of

557
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 1: why we got separated, Like I was drawn to him

558
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 1: because of the he was so solid. Then maybe my

559
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: crazy snuck back in and I looked for crazy for

560
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: a while, and I looked for just because I've been

561
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: I'm so used to crazy. But yeah, I mean this

562
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: is actually turning in. This is not just about me.

563
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: I'm in therapy now, you guys. I'm sorry. I don't

564
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: mean to like, but it's just I haven't really thought

565
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: about it until this moment. Maybe that's like part of

566
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: why we got separated. Things were too calm and I

567
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: just wasn't used to it, and I was used to

568
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: chaos always growing up. Now I am very very happy

569
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: with calm, boring, peaceful and by the.

570
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 2: Way, Larsa and I are in a very similar situation.

571
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 2: I just started dating this guy recently, since the summer.

572
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 2: He's very much like how I was raised. His family's

573
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 2: like my family. He's a great parent, his kids come first,

574
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 2: and so like, I just feel very comfortable around him,

575
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 2: where a lot of guys before, like I didn't like

576
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 2: the way they parented their children, or they the way

577
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 2: they talked about their exes, be very uncomfortable, And this

578
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 2: guy doesn't do any of that.

579
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's really good.

580
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: That makes me feel good.

581
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 4: That makes me feel it's not safe, but it just

582
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 4: makes me feel like calm, Like I am in a

583
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 4: good place and I'm feeling good about what I'm doing,

584
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 4: and everything else is like starting to do well as

585
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 4: a result.

586
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 2: And I know I shouldn't like place like, you know,

587
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 2: emphasis on my relationship and for everything else, but just

588
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 2: me personally, I feel like I'm in a very good

589
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 2: place with him.

590
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 3: I love that you can have craziness everywhere else, but

591
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 3: I think if you have craziness at home, it disrupts

592
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 3: everything else, your work, your kids, you know, everything else.

593
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 2: By the way, I already parented two children, I don't

594
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 2: want a parent anymore. I don't want I don't want

595
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 2: to parent a man. It's not happening.

596
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 3: So no, I hear you, trust me. I've been there,

597
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 3: done that. I've tried to tell you that being single,

598
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 3: I tried it all, and you know what, I really

599
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 3: I didn't have a good experience dating someone with kids.

600
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 3: And it's crazy to say because I have four kids.

601
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,479
Speaker 3: But I think for me, like I'm such like you know, moms,

602
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 3: like we're we could do we can multitask, we can

603
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 3: do ten things some time. But I think it's really

604
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 3: hard for single dads to do that. They don't know

605
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 3: how to like navigate work, kids and a new relationship.

606
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: I think that's a really interesting point. I think a

607
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 1: lot of women have a hard time. Specifically, I think

608
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: with picture dating a guy right now with young kids,

609
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 1: you know, and your kids are that's hard, right, awful.

610
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: For the little boy, I felt offul all my it

611
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 2: was awful.

612
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 3: Tell us Kelly, So what was it like, No, it

613
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 3: was just it.

614
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 2: Was very difficult because you know, I have raised kids

615
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: on my own and I love children, and so I

616
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 2: had to just have a different way of being with

617
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 2: kids and you know, creating boundaries. But also, like like

618
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: Jen talks about, like I like fuel children with.

619
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 3: Love, like tons and tons and love of love, so

620
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 3: they feel.

621
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 2: Safe with me, and I think it's it's very strong

622
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 2: when they go back home and they're like like, I'm

623
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: in this amazing she's you know, I have this new

624
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 2: friend and she like wants to read with me and

625
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 2: do all these things, and the mom is like, I'm

626
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 2: too busy, I'm gonna read with you now or whatever

627
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: it is that she's doing. Not to say that she's

628
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 2: a bad parent, but it's just like we're different because

629
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 2: I'm not full parent, and so I think that you know,

630
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 2: it was very difficult for the kids, and I could

631
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 2: see it. It was awful.

632
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: Did you also feel like you just didn't want to

633
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: do it again, Like you've done that that young kid parenting?

634
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: Like I know for myself, I would not want to

635
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: do that again, specifically with even any I don't want to.

636
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: I want to want to do together my own kids,

637
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: much less someone else is like I've done that.

638
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: I've dated two guys I had children, and one of them,

639
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 2: you know, had a beautiful daughter, and like we would

640
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: run together and do all these things, and she was

641
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 2: kind of really bonding with me, which is so nice.

642
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 2: It made me feel so good, but then I'm like,

643
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: this is not when I'm I mean, it's one thing

644
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 2: to bond, but I don't want to be replacing or

645
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: I don't want that. I mean, I felt it was

646
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: making me feel uncomfortable. I don't know how to explain it.

647
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 2: Like you know, I mean now that I'm so great,

648
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 2: but I just love I love kids. I do. I like,

649
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 2: I love their curiosity and I just want them to

650
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 2: be happy and regardless of.

651
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: What he but I don't want to raise them again.

652
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: I don't know.

653
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 3: I literally was like, should I have another baby?

654
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: Serious?

655
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: That's one of my biggest regrets. LARSA, I should have

656
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: had more kids.

657
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: Well it's not too late, no way, I mean not that, listen.

658
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: I also, I obviously love kids, but absolutely not. I

659
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: have done, been there, done that, I've done my time.

660
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: I loved every single minute of it. And like all mothers,

661
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: if it's me or them, it's them, like I will

662
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: choose it. But I'm good, like I like not having

663
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: to answer to anyone anymore. I'm enjoying it very much.

664
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 2: When I was, when I was, when I after I

665
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 2: got divorced, and then I wanted a housewives I was like,

666
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 2: I'm going to meet these great guys. I'm going to

667
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 2: be able to have another child. This is going to

668
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 2: be unbelievable. And it was like we were talking about before.

669
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 2: It was I'm like, what is going on? Who are

670
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: these men and why are they round?

671
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: Like?

672
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 2: This is not if I want to have a child

673
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 2: with LARSA. Let's do another question.

674
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 3: I froze embryos when I was married, but my husband, Natalie,

675
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 3: passed away in a car accident. I don't know if

676
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 3: I'll ever be able to date again. Should I think

677
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 3: about being a single mom or is that selfish? I

678
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 3: would do it if I wanted to have a child,

679
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 3: I would much rather have a child with someone that

680
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: I loved, that was a good person, than a random

681
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 3: boyfriend that, you know it possibly could not work out.

682
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 3: I would definitely use the embryos. What about you guys?

683
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 2: I know a lot of them.

684
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: To do it, I think is probably different for everyone.

685
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I mean I think

686
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: that ideally I would want to raise children with a partner.

687
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: It's just easier to have a partner. Not always, but

688
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: in most I think in most situations easier. But I

689
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: don't know that seems like such a personal individual decision.

690
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: I don't know.

691
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: I just know a lot of women who have raised

692
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 2: children on their own, whether they've adopted them, whether they

693
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: have you know, gone through you know, different avenues to

694
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 2: have babies, and they seem so happy and like one

695
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: of them is like this major, major, major woman in

696
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 2: business and she's like, I would never have been able

697
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: to have a child if it weren't this way, So

698
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 2: like that's amazing.

699
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you ever regread it. I don't

700
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: think you ever go I wish I hadn't. Right, Once

701
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: you have a baby, there's only everything your heart opens up.

702
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: There's no no matter how you have It.

703
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: Would have been nice to have had a partner to

704
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 2: raise my children with. You know, my children were five

705
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: and seven when they were in housewives when I was single, Like,

706
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: would it have been nice to have someone like nurture

707
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 2: my children through that process. Fortunately I had a great father,

708
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: but you know I didn't have I didn't have that opposite.

709
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: I was the mother and the father to them, and

710
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: you know, I'm I'm so grateful that my children are amazing,

711
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: but you know that is something that really is difficult

712
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 2: for them It's.

713
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 3: Funny because when I was, when I was going through

714
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: my divorce and till today. It's funny because Scotty and

715
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 3: I fight over the kids, like he shows them so

716
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 3: much love. I show them so much love, and I

717
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 3: tell my kids sometimes it's like last Thanksgiving, Sophia was

718
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 3: supposed to come to Miami and her dad was like, no,

719
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 3: I'm taking her to Arkansas to visit his family. And

720
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 3: she was so upset, and I'm like, it's okay, go

721
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 3: to Arkansas with your dad, Like he loves you so much,

722
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 3: he's so proud of it, you want to take you

723
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 3: to visit his family. But I was thinking, like, I

724
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 3: guess it's a good problem to have both your parents

725
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 3: are fighting for you and want you. That's like a

726
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 3: good feeling, you.

727
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: Know, right. I think that's so great. I love that

728
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: you and Scottie are. It sounds like it's such a

729
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: good place.

730
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 3: You know what I've learned to do, Jen I just give,

731
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 3: like I give him all the praise, I give him

732
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 3: whatever he says. I kind of just go with because

733
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 3: I can live in a place of like turmoil, and

734
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 3: I could have done that, like when we were going

735
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 3: through our divorce, I could have been really, you know,

736
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 3: I could have made his life help and I didn't.

737
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 3: I chose not to. I was like, I'm not going

738
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 3: to do that because once you start that cycle, I

739
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 3: feel like it never ends.

740
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: That's a great lesson, Like that's I hope that our

741
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: listeners like I say it again because I just think

742
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: that's such a I think it's so helpful to people

743
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: going through divorce, Like it's not going to help to

744
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: if you are like it, if you are kind, because

745
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: I when I was separated, I remember like we thought

746
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: we were getting divorced, and I was not. It was

747
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: not going to be contentious. I was bound and determined

748
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: to not have it be so ugly because I grew

749
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: up with such ugly divorces, and as a result, I

750
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: did kind of what you did, Laursa. Like my daughter

751
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: would call and she'd be like, daddy's doing this, and

752
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: I was like, you're calling me to complain about Jeff Fesler. Honey,

753
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: you had the wrong number. Okay, you know how lucky,

754
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: But that kind of thing that I made such a

755
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: difference to him and conversely, you know it just I

756
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: think that's such good advice, Like what you did, I

757
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: think is is beautiful thing.

758
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's honestly, it's a conscious effort. You know,

759
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 3: I could have all my friends. I remember I was

760
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 3: filming Housewives and I was like crying because I was like,

761
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 3: oh my god, Sophia's I'm not going to be with

762
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 3: Sophia for Thanksgiving. Like I was really like heartbroken about that.

763
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 3: And I could have called my lawyers. I could have

764
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 3: called him and went crazy on him, like why are

765
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 3: you doing this? Why won't you let her know be

766
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 3: with me? And I just thought, it's it's not going

767
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 3: to win anything. She's with her dad. She's happy. She's

768
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 3: not happy right now, but she will be happy when

769
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 3: she gets around all her cousins. And I just have

770
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 3: to always take the high road. And I feel like

771
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 3: that's the only thing that's worked for my sanity. My

772
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 3: kids they're like amazing, They're they're great because I never

773
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 3: complained about their dad. Their dad kuld do anything to me,

774
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 3: and I will never talk about him. I will never

775
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 3: put in a bad night. I you know, I was

776
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 3: married to an NBA player. You guys, you can only

777
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 3: imagine how crazy my life was. But I've never ever

778
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 3: bashed him. I've never you know, said negative things about

779
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 3: him and the press or at home.

780
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 2: Or amongst my people.

781
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 3: And I think that's like how you're supposed to handle

782
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 3: divorce because if you do bash your ex on social media,

783
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 3: your kids will see that, and you know what I mean,

784
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 3: it's just toxic for everyone. And then he resents your

785
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 3: kids because they're you know, kind of have their mom's back.

786
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 3: It's just not a good playing field for anyone. So

787
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 3: I've always like had a conscious effort to you know,

788
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 3: whatever he does, I'm like, okay, thanks, love you, like,

789
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 3: I hope you're good. He can do the worst things

790
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 3: to me, guys. I literally I'm like, Okay, I hope

791
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 3: you have a great day. Love you.

792
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: You know kell Yeah, Bill last years either.

793
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 2: No, I never do. I mean, listen, he shot Playboy

794
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: for me. I mean, he shot a couple covers for me.

795
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: And I always have him do everything for me that

796
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 2: has to do with any photography. And I would never

797
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 2: do that because I don't want my girls to feel

798
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 2: like insecure about their dad. That just doesn't it doesn't

799
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 2: like it's just it's just it's a lose lose.

800
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 3: You're just not you know, a lot of women do that,

801
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 3: and I don't they rather play victim and bash their ex.

802
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,919
Speaker 3: And I'm like, it's just so toxic and it will

803
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 3: never end, you know, It's just like a cycle of

804
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 3: he did this, he did that, and it's like at

805
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 3: the end of the day, you know, just make peace

806
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 3: whatever it is, and make peace and keep.

807
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: It MOVINGE love that.

808
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: And a therapist once told me that you gravitate towards

809
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 2: your like like your father, or men gravitate towards their mother.

810
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: So however that whatever that relationship was, like, that's what

811
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 2: you that's where you find like safety. So like we

812
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 2: were talking about that before, Jen, how you were like

813
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 2: you had you know, some bad things tomoril in your past,

814
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: so that's that's where you felt that that was your

815
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 2: safe zone. And so for women like we, you know,

816
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: I had a great, strong, academic father. I feel safe

817
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,720
Speaker 2: in that kind of powerful human. I don't feel safe

818
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 2: in the you know, while loose like that doesn't make

819
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 2: me feel safe.

820
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like to know where I stand. I feel

821
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 3: like I don't want to get in a pool unless

822
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 3: I know the temperature, unless I know what's like. I'm

823
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 3: not going swimming unless I know what's what I'm signing.

824
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: Up for smart girl.

825
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 3: Okay, see, I always want to hear this is. This

826
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 3: reminds me of one of my best friends. You guys,

827
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 3: I'm friends with this girl and she was dating this guy.

828
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 3: So wait, let me read this story. Let me read

829
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 3: this question that CJ has for us been living the

830
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 3: bachelor life since divorced. But most of the women I

831
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 3: date last long, don't last longer than a month. I'm

832
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,439
Speaker 3: on the shorter side. And yeah, that's not big either.

833
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 3: The size really mattered to women.

834
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: That's my question. That was that was written for me.

835
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: So when I was single again ten million years ago,

836
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: I was my only My only absolute was that he'd

837
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: be taller than me. And when I got fixed up

838
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: on dates, I would say, I'm not going out. I

839
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: don't care. He doesn't have to be so handsome, he

840
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be so wealthy, he just has to

841
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: be tall. Jeff is five six. I think that it's

842
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: a very interesting and I did that. But you know, now,

843
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: I watched this guy, this professor from n YU. He

844
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: does a lot of talking about younger boys and girls

845
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: and how because so much that is social media, you

846
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: see that like a lot of times the girls will

847
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: swipe I don't know which is the bad one left

848
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: or right, but swipe one way, if the guy is,

849
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: if the boys not tall, right or the thing. That's

850
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: why it's so like, like I would say to young people,

851
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: you have to go out and meet people, because maybe

852
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 1: you meet this short guy and he's got this unbelievably

853
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: perfect personality and he looks at you in the eye.

854
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: He can meet you whatever and you whatever, and there's

855
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: there's just beromones and chemistry. I think that like part

856
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: of that is being out in the world right, and

857
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: you know, I think online that's hard. I do think

858
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of girls look for tall.

859
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: I mean I was always felt like a big girl also,

860
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: so I wanted a guy to make me feel like

861
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: a more sort of smaller feminine whatever it was.

862
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 2: First of all, you're not a big girl. You're tiny

863
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 2: and perfect.

864
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: And Ellie, I mean I was, I always was. I

865
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: was always very I would go through like had really

866
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: heavy periods like you know, being so I always you

867
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: did too, LARSA.

868
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, really, you know what's really interesting, I feel

869
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 3: like what you like. For instance, not that you're ever

870
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 3: going to get divorced, John, but if you were ever

871
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 3: to get divorced, you'd probably look for a short guy.

872
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 3: I think you're used to I have a girlfriend that

873
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 3: literally only dates shorter men, and that's really she were heels. Yeah,

874
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 3: she's like five five with heels, she's like five eight,

875
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 3: and she only dates guys that are literally like short.

876
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 3: And I was like, why do you only like short guys?

877
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 3: And she's like, I think I'm just used to shorter men.

878
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 3: So I do you think it's good to, you know,

879
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 3: keep your options open. You understand tall men's like it's

880
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 3: less than like it's like one percent of the population.

881
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: You guys, right, and you've dated all of them, lady, I.

882
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 3: Dated all of them. I'll take you know. I think

883
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 3: I like what I'm used to. You know, so I'm

884
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 3: used to tall guys. My kids are all tall. So

885
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 3: and I don't want to get a leader. When I

886
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 3: want to reach up to the cabinet, I'll just call

887
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 3: job for my kids and be like, can you get

888
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 3: that at the top?

889
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: No, you definitely could be right. Maybe I would be drawn.

890
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 3: I like that when you're a date, when you have

891
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 3: like when you've spent a lot of time with someone,

892
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 3: you just gravitate towards the same thing. It's really weird.

893
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 3: It's really I.

894
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: Would want first thing, I gravitate towards nice nice. I

895
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: would want them nice. My husband is nice, and I

896
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 1: know that sounds very trite, but I would want I'd

897
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: be very much on the look at smart or and smart.

898
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 2: Yes, and he loves his Jenfestler, Yes, that's good advice.

899
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 3: I feel like you give really good advice.

900
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: It's a nice thing to say.

901
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 2: Jen always. Jen is like very real, thank you.

902
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, anyway, moving to it.

903
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 3: You care.

904
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: You don't just like give advice that makes you sound good.

905
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: You give advice that's real.

906
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: You do well. I mean, I'd love to go keep

907
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: going with this, but maybe do another thing.

908
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 2: More about me, more, me.

909
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 3: Me, me, me me.

910
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 2: Let's go to Olivia. She's seeing two guys right now,

911
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: and I defer too. She's decided to date more more.

912
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 2: She's decided to date more like men do. But things

913
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 2: are starting to get serious with both of them, and

914
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 2: she likes them for two different reasons. I know I

915
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 2: can't see them both forever. How should I figure out

916
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 2: which one I should keep and which one I should

917
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 2: break up with?

918
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 3: I would say, whoever you sleep better with at night?

919
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: Sleep sleep or sleep sleep like zz Like.

920
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 3: I feel like anytime I was in a relationship that

921
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 3: was good, I would sleep like a baby, And anytime

922
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 3: I was dating someone where I couldn't sleep all night

923
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 3: and I just had all these like like weird thoughts

924
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 3: in my mind, like even though he was a great guy,

925
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 3: but I just had these like things that would go

926
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 3: in the back of my mind. I'm like, no, I

927
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 3: don't trust him. There's something about him. I don't trust

928
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 3: even though he's giving me all this stuff like no,

929
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 3: So I think, whoever you sleep with the best I've

930
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 3: dated guys, you guys were I could not sleep at

931
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 3: all and I was like that's my body and God

932
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 3: talking and me telling me he's not the guy. Yeah,

933
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 3: So I would break up with guys because I couldn't

934
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 3: sleep next to him. I'm like, I can't be with

935
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 3: this guy. I don't sleep.

936
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: So you weren't. You were uncomfortable, You weren't You couldn't

937
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: feel like you could relax.

938
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, or like any won't like gives you anxiety, Like

939
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 2: if they don't call you back, it gives you anxiety.

940
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 2: I feel like those kind of some people are like,

941
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 2: oh my god, that's their tone and like lift, Like

942
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 2: that is not a serotonin lift. That is a do

943
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 2: not text be with that person that your body is

944
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,720
Speaker 2: saying there's too much that there's there's too much attached

945
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 2: to that phone call. Used to be with someone that

946
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: makes you feel good about yourself, like you're saying sleep

947
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 2: feel good about yourself, like you want to me better,

948
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 2: like I just I mean, I want to be in

949
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 2: a relationship where I feel better. I don't want to

950
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 2: be in a relationship or on my back foot I've

951
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 2: been in not all my life.

952
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 3: Or you can always flip a coin. I do that

953
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 3: a lot to you, guys. I'm like this week or

954
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 3: next share break up with them this week or next

955
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 3: a flipal coin. I'm like, no, this week, Okay, we're

956
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 3: moving on.

957
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: Well. I also think you don't have to make that

958
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: choice until you have to make that choice, Like I

959
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: don't know if you know, unless there's a ring on

960
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 1: your finger or this you know, push or exclusivity, Why

961
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: can't you keep dating them both.

962
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 2: Like as long as they know, though, I don't think

963
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 2: it's fair.

964
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it's fair to be in two different.

965
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: Two relationships if you haven't said to them like we're

966
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 2: not we're not committing because that's just not fair. That's

967
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: like leading two people on. And you know that just

968
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 2: is like that you're never you're never going to sleep

969
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 2: all at night because you're not doing like nice things

970
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 2: like that's just I don't think that's fair.

971
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: What about your listen interesting? I feel like it's hard

972
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 3: to get to know someone unless you spend a lot

973
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 3: of time with them and invest with like invest in

974
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 3: them and they invest in you. Right, So that's one person, right,

975
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 3: But in today's world, I feel like people like you

976
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 3: more if you're unavailable. So if you are dating two people,

977
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 3: they both probably like you because you're unavailable, busy, You're

978
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 3: very busy, kind of crazy. But it's kind of it's

979
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 3: working out for her with these two guys because she

980
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 3: doesn't have as much time. She's juggling two guys, right.

981
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 3: But then at the same time, it's like you have

982
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 3: to really get to, you know, invest in one person.

983
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 3: So data is hard to twenty twenty five. You have

984
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 3: to navigate each relationship like different. I think each relation,

985
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 3: each relationship is like unique and different, and you have

986
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 3: to handle it and take an approach that's like just

987
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 3: made for that one relationship.

988
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 5: You know.

989
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I see a question. It's like glaring

990
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 2: at me. It's from Cheryl. She's saying, going into my

991
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 2: second marriage and I'm set on having a pren at

992
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 2: this time. My fiancee is hesitant that the prenup will

993
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: ruined the finances, possibly of his kids from his first marriage.

994
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 2: How do I make him see my side of things.

995
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: I'm a big prenup fan.

996
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am too. It's just it's better to understand

997
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 3: what you're signing up for. And I think it instead

998
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 3: of fighting each other and whatever it is, I think

999
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 3: you have to go into a relationship once you committed

1000
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 3: to each other, like you're going to get remarried, then

1001
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 3: you know exactly what it is, you.

1002
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, I mean first time around, maybe you like,

1003
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: now you've seen that even though you go into something forever,

1004
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't always end up being forever. So now you're

1005
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: on your second time around, specifically, I don't know. I

1006
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 1: don't know I would tell any one of my friends.

1007
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 2: I mean, unless you're already locked up, like this is

1008
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 2: in trust or whatever, like that's totally different. But I

1009
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 2: think it's I definitely think it's a good thing to do.

1010
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: Kelly, you had the whole issue with this in your

1011
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 1: last relationship.

1012
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 3: Yeahs are a good thing. I think it's it's an

1013
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,479
Speaker 3: you know what you're getting out of the situation, best case,

1014
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 3: worst case. Like I just I hate the unknown.

1015
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: You know you don't know what it is.

1016
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 3: It's much better put in writing and understand what you're

1017
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 3: sending up for. I tell my kids this, like my

1018
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 3: son's in the NBA. I'm like, I don't know when

1019
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 3: you're gonna get married, but when you do, you're defining

1020
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:17,240
Speaker 3: an adoprena.

1021
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, of course I hear you. This question is

1022
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 1: really I'm just loving it, but you guys can answer.

1023
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: It started seeing a man who's sixty three, and when

1024
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 1: we got to the point where we were sharing kinks

1025
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,240
Speaker 1: and what we like, he told me he likes watching

1026
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:37,479
Speaker 1: porn daily. That feels like cheating to me. Am I wrong?

1027
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 3: Go, I think it's definitely cheating. I would feel jealous.

1028
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 3: I just know my personality like Kelly, are the same?

1029
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 3: That sounds like right like, I'm not I'm not cool

1030
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 3: with that because you're cheating on me. Someone else is

1031
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 3: making you feel good and it's not me, So you're

1032
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 3: not my guy.

1033
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 2: I would be so jealous.

1034
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I honestly, I wouldn't. I'm not I do.

1035
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, I know. I mean that's it's like

1036
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: feels like I'm giving out a lot of information. But

1037
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I don't know. That doesn't maybe

1038
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 1: because I've watched I watch not any I'm fifty seven

1039
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: years old.

1040
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,919
Speaker 3: Watching porn every now and then. It's different. But I'm saying,

1041
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 3: if you're watching it every single day, he's got a

1042
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 3: full on a relationship with this girl, even though it's

1043
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 3: in his mind.

1044
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a problem to watch porn every

1045
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: day period. Yes, I agree with you. That's it's getting.

1046
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: It's a little weird. But I don't really like if

1047
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: I think that my man is upstairs in the bathroom

1048
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 1: and he's on the phone, it doesn't bother me. That

1049
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: would not bother me. But but you know, I know

1050
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: it does bother a lot of women. Yeah, I don't

1051
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: know why it doesn't. I don't know why it doesn't

1052
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 1: bother me. I don't know. I also because like, do

1053
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: you guys watch porn?

1054
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 2: No, I mean I have in the past some, but

1055
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 2: I'm not like a porn watcher.

1056
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, So Hannah said John on divorce is finally settled.

1057
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 3: I'm having a divorce party next month. What should my

1058
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 3: rider die friends and I do to celebrate? You'd be

1059
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 3: good at this one.

1060
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 2: I think your ride or die girlfriends should do something

1061
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 2: that just like that's like brings you together, like we

1062
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 2: were talking about before, Like I feel like female friendships

1063
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 2: are so important and so something that's like a celebration

1064
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 2: of the friendship I think is like the best thing

1065
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 2: to do. I don't think like parties with like you know,

1066
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 2: blow up penises or something like that, Like I mean

1067
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 2: that's not but just like things that really make the

1068
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 2: group bond is something that like I would.

1069
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 3: Want to do, like go to Paris and net proissants

1070
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,919
Speaker 3: right unavailable, Let's go. I'm like, that's that's what makes

1071
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 3: me want to you know what I mean, have a

1072
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 3: party with or without a man, like go skiing with

1073
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 3: your girlfriends.

1074
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: I take you know, having the idea of having a

1075
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: party after because you're getting divorced is so healthy as

1076
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 1: opposed to like sinking into divorced. And I got divorced.

1077
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: I mean you're going to go through that obviously, but

1078
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Speaker 1: I think like celebrating this new chat with your girlfriends.

1079
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 1: I think that's such a great idea and like being.

1080
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Speaker 2: Like having them be a part of it. I think

1081
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 2: like we were talking about before about like friendships, and

1082
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 2: I feel like some female friendships get really intimidated by

1083
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 2: at this time the stage of our life, Like if

1084
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 2: you're with someone else and they're like, you're never going

1085
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 2: to be available anymore because you're always going to be

1086
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Speaker 2: with ex or why And so if you can do

1087
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Speaker 2: something where you like bond and you have this moment,

1088
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Speaker 2: then you know you always have something to remember you. No,

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Speaker 2: like ar Paris is always a good idea, like.

1090
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Speaker 3: Tom says, starting to date again, losing my wife, trying

1108
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 3: to navigate the online thing for the first time. What

1109
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,760
Speaker 3: should I be putting on my profile? What do you avoid?

1110
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 3: What kind of pictures do women like to see?

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00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: I'll let you guys answer that. Oh Jenna that if

1112
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: you don't, oh you know this one, listen, I can

1113
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: tell you, well, I haven't. Like when Jeff and I

1114
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: were separated, it wasn't that wasn't that much online dating.

1115
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: That's how long ago there was. But if you asked me,

1116
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: like if I go through it with my daughter or

1117
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 1: my son, like and there not that my son doesn't

1118
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 1: share with me about this stuff, but like my daughter

1119
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: and or what she's looking at. I guess the kind

1120
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: of corny, hokey answer is you want your profile to

1121
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: represent the best of you, but not not something made

1122
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: up or something fabricated, like here's who I am.

1123
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 3: You're saying you should be authentic. Whatever you're authentic, take

1124
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 3: it to be authentic.

1125
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: I think you can also, you know, talk about the

1126
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: best parts of you or show the best pictures of you.

1127
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: And you know, Also, I don't know if I'm looking

1128
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: on someone's profile and it's I feel like it's honest

1129
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: and it said I've it says let's say it says

1130
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, I've struggled with something like I like,

1131
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: I like the idea of showing a little bit of vulnerability.

1132
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: But you guys know, you weigh in now you tell me.

1133
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 3: So if I see a guy that's that strugg with anything,

1134
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 3: I'm running, I'm like, I don't need a nut job.

1135
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 1: No, thanks, fair enough.

1136
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,720
Speaker 3: I you know what's funny, because I started a dating

1137
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 3: app called day dot com. Did Yeah, So I look

1138
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 3: at a lot of dating apps. I researched a lot

1139
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 3: of dating apps before, and I feel like I don't

1140
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 3: like when guys take selfies. Like to me, when I

1141
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 3: look at the dating apps, I'm like, I don't like

1142
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 3: the selfies, Like I think it's cooler when guys show

1143
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 3: their family their friends. It's more like chill, not so formal,

1144
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 3: like not so much with the selfies or the picture

1145
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 3: in front of the car like that to me just

1146
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 3: looses like cheesy.

1147
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: I agree with that, Like if you're like, you know.

1148
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 3: If you're playing tennis with your friends, if you're on

1149
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 3: a boat with your friends, like that to me is like, oh,

1150
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 3: he's got a lot of people that like him. Okay,

1151
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 3: so he's a good person.

1152
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 2: Who knows people.

1153
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, them too, because I'm like, oh, he's okay, but

1154
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 3: his friends are really cute. But I think you're just

1155
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 3: posting photos of yourself selfies. It just gives me like

1156
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 3: pick Like I don't I think shirtless nothing at the

1157
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 3: jam Yeah.

1158
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 2: No baseball caps, no sunglasses. Like I agree with Larsa too, like.

1159
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 3: Maybe just like your parents, your siblings or your kids

1160
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 3: or stuff like that. I'm like, oh, he's so cute.

1161
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 3: He has like a normal family, like you know, like

1162
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 3: that's kind of cute, like a real life your photos

1163
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 3: you know what what you were talking about, Jen, Like

1164
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 3: I struggle with depression.

1165
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: I don't mean, you know, I wouldn't. I would also

1166
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: want any of that only because I feel like all

1167
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: of the profiles are so you know, you're they they

1168
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,720
Speaker 1: don't always feel authentic. And so when I say struggle,

1169
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: I definitely don't mean like, well, right now I'm struggling

1170
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: to get off Heroin, like that's probably not going to

1171
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: take your lot dates right, but more like, you know,

1172
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, I've struggled. I'm trying to

1173
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 1: think of like like I've struggled with uh, I've struggled

1174
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: with finding relationships that are who's putting that.

1175
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 2: In a profile?

1176
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 1: Maybe not Larsa.

1177
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 2: I interview the girl who was recently divorced, and she

1178
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 2: actually did a really good good job at being like,

1179
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 2: very authentic to who she was, the things she likes,

1180
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 2: things that she likes to do. She was very positive

1181
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 2: and and her profile like just seemed so real. And

1182
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 2: I think that that's one thing that people are like,

1183
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 2: whichuld I say, should I you know, like I feel like, yeah,

1184
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 2: this is always more just be like I love my

1185
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 2: friends and family, you know whatever, Like Thanksgiving my favorite

1186
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 2: favorite holiday, whatever it is. But I think that like

1187
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 2: trying to lure someone in with some kind of tagline

1188
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,439
Speaker 2: or something I think is really like a no no zone.

1189
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: What about like what they said like struggle with staying home?

1190
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: I struggle with like I'm always feeling like I have

1191
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: to be on the go or but I don't know,

1192
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: I don't I think what I'm getting at. You're probably right.

1193
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: I probably would see the word struggle. Maybe I would

1194
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: run for the hills. But I'm looking for authentic, Like

1195
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: everybody's got their shit.

1196
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 2: You guys, it's called biobating.

1197
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,720
Speaker 3: What's that when you do that in your bio?

1198
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 2: Biobating it's when they make their bio too good.

1199
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 3: They have up writing. Is that what you're saying?

1200
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, their bio is like too much information about them

1201
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,959
Speaker 2: so that they can lure you in, so you're like, Wow,

1202
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 2: this person is so great. I mean it's like you know,

1203
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 2: Jen was saying too like at the beginning, like how

1204
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 2: you know, go out and meet people because you never

1205
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 2: know who that's going to be, what they're going to

1206
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 2: be like, and their idiosyncrasies to you may be super

1207
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 2: charming and to someone else, they mean may be the

1208
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 2: ick but like you don't know, but if someone's giving

1209
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 2: you this, like you know, Daniel Steele novel of their

1210
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 2: their bio, I mean like how it's like difficult to

1211
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 2: be like, oh my, oh my god, this guy's perfect.

1212
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: And love you said Daniel Steele. Did you know who

1213
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: that is? Larsa, I don't know how old you are.

1214
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 1: You look you look very young. I know old Kelly

1215
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: is because we're about the same. I know what Danielle

1216
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: Steel is.

1217
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, she's iconic romance novelist of all time,

1218
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 2: of all time. So yeah, no biobaiting. Just I think

1219
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 2: that just being like authentic. I mean, Larsa, you're the you.

1220
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 2: I have love that you have this dating app, So

1221
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 2: tell us, tell us, like, give us three things that

1222
00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 2: you think resonate.

1223
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 3: On a on a bio for a dating app, like

1224
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,280
Speaker 3: I you know, like Jen said, I think someone being authentic.

1225
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 3: I think just sharing what you're looking for and sharing

1226
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 3: you know where you are in life. I feel like

1227
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 3: a lot of people on dating apps are looking for

1228
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 3: specific things. First, there's some people just looking to hook up,

1229
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 3: There's some people just want to partner, and then there's

1230
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 3: some people looking for a long term commitment. You know,

1231
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 3: marriage stuff like that. So I think just being authentic

1232
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 3: as to what you want in a relationship, what you're

1233
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 3: looking for, you know, I don't like the mixed signal thing,

1234
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 3: like I'm not good with that. I like people to

1235
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 3: if you don't know what you want, I'm not going

1236
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 3: to know you know what you want. So it's like,

1237
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 3: just figure out what you want before you get on

1238
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 3: dating apps and what you're looking for, and then go

1239
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 3: on date dot com. It is basically powered by AI.

1240
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 3: It's it eliminates getting catfished. You have to use the

1241
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 3: camera from the actual app to upload your profile picture.

1242
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 3: You can't use a photo that's overly edited.

1243
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: That's brilliant.

1244
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then you can ask xt a group of

1245
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 3: people for like, if you're talking to five guys just

1246
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 3: getting to know them, you can send five guys the

1247
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 3: same message like hey guys, what are your plans this weekend?

1248
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 3: You can send multiple messages. You can FaceTime and video

1249
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 3: call from the actual app. So a lot of times

1250
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 3: people go on dating apps and then they're like, oh,

1251
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 3: let's take this, let me call you or let me

1252
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 3: text you, and it's like I'm still getting to know you.

1253
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 3: I don't know if I want you to have my

1254
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 3: phone number, chat and get to know each other on

1255
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 3: the actual app, and day dot com doesn't sell it

1256
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 3: your personal information. We don't even have your personal information.

1257
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 3: For instance, Jen, you could be Jen sixty nine sixty nine,

1258
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 3: you know, like you know, it's not any personal You

1259
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 3: don't have to full name your name.

1260
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: That's actually who I am, Yes, it actually is. That

1261
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: would be my name on a dating app.

1262
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 3: Like, you don't have to get all your personal information.

1263
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 3: You can go on there and see if you like anyone.

1264
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 3: I literally just sent all these screen shouts to my

1265
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 3: girlfriends because they're on day dot com but they hadn't

1266
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 3: been on in a couple of weeks, and I'm like,

1267
00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 3: oh my god, this guy's so hot. You have to

1268
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 3: message you. Oh my god this And I was screenshotting

1269
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 3: and sending them all these guys. I was like, these

1270
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 3: guys are like finance guys. They're cute, they're young, and

1271
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 3: go on the app.

1272
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: Love that dot com.

1273
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 2: Day dot Com. Okay, so she's been divorced twice and

1274
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 2: had a shortened engagement that almost flopped. I'm over I'm

1275
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 2: kind of over guys my own age, and I think

1276
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 2: I should try dating ten years younger. What's the good

1277
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 2: and the bad I should expect?

1278
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 3: Okay, So for me, I think dating someone younger is

1279
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 3: more fun. I think that when you're young, when you're

1280
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 3: dating a younger guy, they don't have all the baggage

1281
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 3: that the older guys have. The older guys are like

1282
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 3: kind of grumpier. I think as guys get older, they

1283
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 3: kind of get settled in their ways and they like

1284
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 3: things done the same way every single day. You know,

1285
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 3: that's my personal experience. But I think you get a

1286
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 3: younger guy, they're more open to doing different things. They'll

1287
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Speaker 3: they'll make you feel younger. You're like playing video games

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00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,439
Speaker 3: like you guys. I have a video game set sitting

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00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 3: here because my boyfriend plays video games. Okay, So you know,

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Speaker 3: I think it's definitely more fun dating a younger guy,

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Speaker 3: for sure. So that's the positive. The negative is you

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Speaker 3: have to go through all the things you've learned in

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01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 3: your thirties and forties all over again. So you're kind

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01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 3: of reliving all your thirties and forties with this person,

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01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 3: and they don't have as much experience as you when

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Speaker 3: it comes down to all the bad things that you've experienced.

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Speaker 3: So I'm constantly when I'm dealing with my boyfriend, I'm like,

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Speaker 3: and he tells me something, I'm like, you better put

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01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 3: into writing, you better, you know. I feel like i'm

1300
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 3: always because I've been burned because I have years over

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01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 3: him that I feel like I have to, you know,

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01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 3: kind of go through these things with him. He trusts everyone,

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01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 3: and I'm in a place in my life where I've

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01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 3: been burned, so I don't trust everyone that I do

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01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 3: business with. I'm like, it could go bad, it could

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01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 3: go left, and so there's like a learning curve that

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01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 3: you have to help with.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would only date older. If I was saying, oh,

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01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 1: you wouldn't know, you wouldn't I would. You're saying about

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01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 1: the guy being grumpy and now wanting I'm grumpy. I

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01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: want to sit around. Don't try to get me to

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01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: do new things. I want to sit around. I want

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01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: to watch movies. I want to like, you know, laugh.

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01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: I don't want any guy I'm not interested in going

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01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 1: on your motorcycle or I don't want to get out

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01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 1: of here. I want a guy who's old, who will

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Speaker 1: sit next to me because I'm old and leave me alone.

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Speaker 2: I do not want that. I am I am.

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01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 3: My sister sent me a picture. My sister's ten years

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01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 3: younger than me, and she sent me a picture of

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01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 3: a guy that she run into a like, because my

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01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 3: sister still lives in Chicago, where we grew up. And

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01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 3: she sent me a picture of a guy that she

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01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 3: went high school with. And I promise you, this guy

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01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 3: looked like he was thirty years older than us. And

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Speaker 3: I was, like, men sometimes age worse than women. We're

1327
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 3: in a group of women, Like our group of women

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01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 3: take care of ourselves. We look good, we look younger,

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01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 3: you know, and it's hard to date someone that does

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01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 3: not take care of themselves like that.

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01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: And older guys agree. I always dated older. I always

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01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 1: I did too, Jen I did too.

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01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 3: When I was, you know, twenty two, I married a

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01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 3: guy ten years older. And that was the the guys

1335
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 3: who were older. But then when you hit a certain age,

1336
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 3: you gravitate toward energy and where you are. And I

1337
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 3: feel like my energy is really young, and I attract

1338
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 3: young because I'm ready to do whatever or go wherever,

1339
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 3: like I'd like to have fun, I like to plan things,

1340
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 3: and I just feel like I gravitate toward younger, and

1341
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 3: younger tends to gravitate towards me and see it.

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01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 2: What about you, cal You know, I've dated so many

1343
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 2: different ages. My ex husband was so much older that

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01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:36,919
Speaker 2: I was. I got married when I was very young,

1345
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 2: and then I dated a guy that was young, a

1346
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 2: couple of guys that were younger than me. And I

1347
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 2: understand what Mars is saying, like I do love because

1348
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 2: I have a young spirit as well. I think I

1349
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 2: have like arrested adolescens. Honestly, Like I think it's like

1350
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 2: I'm like caught in like.

1351
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 3: My life state that way. That's good, you know what.

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01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 2: I like the way that I am. But a lot

1353
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 2: of people are like, oh my god, you're so mature.

1354
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm actually not immature. I just like to

1355
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 2: have a good time and I'm just very positive. So

1356
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 2: I like being around. But I feel like there's no

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01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 2: age to that. And I feel like I've dated guys

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01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 2: that are younger, that are old souls. I feel like

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01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 2: I've dated guys that are older that are you know,

1360
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 2: that are very young. I you know, it's like it's

1361
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 2: really depends on the actual person. But I don't want

1362
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 2: to teach someone something. I don't want to say, like,

1363
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 2: you know, get that in writing, like I don't want

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01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 2: to do that.

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01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 1: I want them to.

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01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 2: Say get that.

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01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 3: In writing, you're saying you want them to teach you.

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01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 3: You still want to learn.

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01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm a curious person, learn more.

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01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 3: I just think that when you date younger guys, you're

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01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 3: you're a little bit more you know, jaded as you

1372
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 3: get older, Like you're you've seen, you know, situations that

1373
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 3: like when you're younger, Like if I were to tell

1374
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 3: my younger self, like the things I thought I knew

1375
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 3: at thirty and what I know today is definitely different,

1376
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 3: you know, it's definitely different.

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Speaker 2: It's just so funny because like my kids, Like when

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01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 2: I say to my kids, they're twenty five and twenty

1379
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, you know, he's just a couple

1380
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:03,919
Speaker 2: of years younger. My daughter's like, oh my god, he's

1381
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 2: so young. Or I'll be like he's just a couple

1382
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 2: of years older than you. He's thirty and my daughter's like,

1383
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 2: what so old. I'm like, oh my god, they're like

1384
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 2: so weird about age where I guess, you know, like

1385
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 2: you know, we are like more open to like different ages.

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01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 2: I mean, clearly, I've yeah, mary to.

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01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 3: Like someone so much older, so I used to be

1388
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 3: the guy that was my age, you guys, and he

1389
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 3: was so immature, and I was like, when I broke

1390
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:28,919
Speaker 3: up with him, I was like, you know what, there's

1391
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 3: a reason why I dated you, And it was literally

1392
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 3: to prove that age is nothing but a number. You

1393
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 3: are so immature that, like, I'm good.

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01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 1: I would not like that at any age. I can't

1395
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 1: outstand immaturity. But I'm telling you I am. I like

1396
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: to move now at a slow pace, and I make

1397
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 1: no apologies for it. I don't want to skydive. I'm

1398
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: not interested in I dive.

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01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 3: We're like, no one's getting on a motorcycle, no one's skydiving.

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01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 3: It's just like fun dinners.

1401
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: I like fun dinners.

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01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 3: You know what's interesting, my husband met him, he would

1403
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 3: love him because all my friends that have husbands that

1404
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 3: are older, I feel like I have younger friends and

1405
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 3: then I have older friends. I'm kind of that person.

1406
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 3: But when I bring my boyfriend and dinners with my

1407
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 3: friends who have older husbands, they are obsessed with Joff.

1408
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 3: They're obsessed with him. They love him, they like they

1409
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 3: have great conversations.

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01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 1: And it works that no doubt, because Jef is probably

1411
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 1: a wonderful, warm, kind, smart man so younger older that is,

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01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,959
Speaker 1: you know definitely what I'm picturing. I don't know, Listen,

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01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 1: maybe I just I am old beyond my years. I

1414
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 1: think I'm eighty. Really I'm ready to go. Like I

1415
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 1: look at assisted living places and I think, what's so bad?

1416
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 1: I could totally do that. I could go out of

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01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 1: my little apartment and go downstairs and the meal is

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01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 1: ready and go to happy hour with the old people.

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01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 3: Find me and my sister. My sister was like, oh

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01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 3: my god, do you realize we're going to be like

1421
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 3: eighty and X amount of years. I'm like, well, you

1422
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 3: shut the hell up. Like so, I was like, you know,

1423
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 3: when we get old and our kids come over our

1424
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 3: house with their kids, I'm like, shut up up, who

1425
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 3: wants to hear this? My kids are not getting married,

1426
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 3: They're living with me forever.

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Speaker 2: really sent in some great ones. Larsa was great.

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