1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntire. What is up 3 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: straight Firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Friday, 4 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 2: June second. Game one of the NBA Finals was last night, 5 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: actually tonight. We're recording this about forty five minutes after 6 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: the Nuggets stomped and yes they did. They stomped out 7 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: the Miami Heat one by eleven. Covered the spread. I 8 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: told you Nuggets minus nine was the butt and it 9 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 2: came through pretty easily. And as a smart man once said, 10 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 2: this is as bad as it gets for the NBA. 11 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 2: You basically have Adam Silver before Game one saying, hey, 12 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: this Ja Moran situation. Yeah it's bad, but we're not 13 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: going to talk about it until after the finals. We 14 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: got more information. Not good. John Morant one of the 15 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: premier players in the league, an All NBA talent, and 16 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 2: the NBA doesn't even want to talk about it. Then 17 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: you get to the game and it's like Miami just 18 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: does nothing. After the first quarter. Uh, Denver races to 19 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: a seventeen point halftime lead and I think according to 20 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: the stats and Rob you can check me on this. 21 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 2: Three shots at halftime for Jokic and they were up seventeen. Miami, listen, 22 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: it's gonna be a tough, tough task for the Heat 23 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 2: to win this series. It's gonna be a tall order 24 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 2: for the Heat to win a game in this series. Now, 25 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: I said, Nuggets and seven and they did not even 26 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: look great. They scored one hundred and four points. I 27 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: drove home my kid from chess club with a bunch 28 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 2: of his buddies, and they're all like, oh, Miami's coming 29 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: back in game two. Jimmy Buckets is gonna get give 30 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: him a business. I said, guys, did you watch what 31 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: the Nuggets did to the Lakers. I kept hearing the 32 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: Lakers were gonna, Lakers are gonna hang, Lakers are gonna 33 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: get a game, They're gonna make adjustments, and Denver swept them. 34 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: The last time Denver lost two games was against Devin 35 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: Booker and Kevin Durant when both of them went volcanically 36 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: hot and erupted for a billion points and Phoenix not 37 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: of the series at two. Last I checked, Yeah, Miami 38 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 2: doesn't have anybody resembling Kevin Durant or Devin Booker on 39 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: the squad. And here's a stat that is gonna just 40 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 2: make the blood boil. Of Miami Heat fans. So this postseason, 41 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: when Jimmy Butler attempts twenty five or more shots, Miami's 42 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 2: eight and two. For some reason. In Game one, all 43 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler could do was fourteen shots. Just could not 44 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 2: get on track. They seem more focused Miami did about 45 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: their zone defense and tweaking it, and yeah, for a moment, 46 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: you know, when Yokich went to the bench in the 47 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 2: first half, it looked like the zone was working, and 48 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 2: then Uncle Jeff Green got loose. I mean, he didn't 49 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 2: have a monster game. He had four points, but those 50 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: were I believe with Jokic out and he looked like 51 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: he knew what he was doing inside. And then you know, 52 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 2: Jokic comes back and the zone is kind of rendered useless. Jokic, 53 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 2: of course, I'm bearing the lead. He's the guy. Twenty 54 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: seven points, fourteen assists, ten boards, triple double in his 55 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: first NBA Finals appearance. When the game was won in 56 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: the first half, the second half was all double digits. 57 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: I think briefly Miami cut it to nine, and then 58 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 2: Denver just ran away and hit at the end. In 59 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: the first half, Jokic scored or assisted on thirty three 60 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: first half points five different players. Jokic is just finding 61 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 2: everybody for open looks or threes. His teammates were ten 62 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: of twelve off his passes. Like, Jokic is just an 63 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 2: unbelievable passer, his vision is extraordinary, and Miami has no answers. 64 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: I thought maybe we would see Kevin Love in an 65 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 2: effort to defend Jokic DNP coach's decision, we saw more 66 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: of Highsmith, who's kind of a thick tree trunk kind 67 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: of dude. But you know, you know, he actually played 68 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: kind of well. He had eighteen points in twenty three minutes. 69 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,839 Speaker 2: But defensively he's useless against Yokic, and when you try 70 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: to double him, he's kicking it out to Murray. And imagine, 71 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: oh if, oh, by the way, what if Michael Porter 72 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: Junior hit his threes. He was two of eleven from deep, 73 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: fourteen points. Like Denver did not play their A game, 74 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 2: They played probably their B game. I don't even think 75 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 2: this was a B plus game. Twenty nine percent from 76 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: deep and they win handily by eleven. Like I don't, 77 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: Miami's gonna have to have one of these games where 78 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: they just are not missing from the perimeter like you know, 79 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 2: they're four wins against Boston and I don't see that. 80 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: I mean, they had an edge from three thirteen threes. 81 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 2: But again, when Jokic can take three shots at a 82 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: half and they're leading by seventeen, you've got major problems. 83 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: I guess the big positive was bam Atabayo. He had 84 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: twenty six points on a career high twenty five shots 85 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 2: at thirteen boards. But you know, the Nuggets win handily 86 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden. This is one of those 87 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: NBA finals where it's like, ooh, Miami better show up 88 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 2: in game two Denver, by the way thirteen and three 89 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: in the playoffs, and if they get a double dissial lead, 90 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,799 Speaker 2: they're as good as anyone at choking you out eleven 91 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 2: and oh when the Nuggets lead by double digits in 92 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: the playoffs, Rob I wanted to come on here and 93 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: make a case like, Okay, Miami can do this. They 94 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: could tweak this. Again, you don't want to overreact to 95 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: one game, but I remember Rob, when we sat here 96 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: after game one, we were like, oh, this is Rue 97 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: Hachima thing kind of interesting. You put Hachi Mora on 98 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 2: Yo kich you have ad as like the roamer. They 99 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 2: don't have that. For Miami. There isn't a player that 100 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 2: can contend with Jokic and you have Bam roaming. I 101 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 2: don't see that scenarios or Rob. I gotta say it's early. 102 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 2: I'm not throwing in the towel Denver trail for thirty 103 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 2: four seconds in this game and they win handily and 104 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 2: they did not play their best effort. My guy, Jamal Murray, 105 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,799 Speaker 2: He's gonna lead me to the Player's Points title twenty 106 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 2: six for Jamal Murray, he's a killer. And Rob, I 107 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: don't know. I can't really make a case that Miami 108 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: has a shot in the series after one game. 109 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you're not gonna throw in the towel, 110 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 3: I'll definitely do it. And I said before the series 111 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 3: that I really wanted to pick Denver in a sweep, 112 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 3: but I had too much respect for Spoe and Jimmy Butler, 113 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 3: so I said I'm gonna amend it to Denver in 114 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 3: five and that's what I settled on. And now I 115 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 3: feel stupid because I think this is going to be 116 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 3: a sweep. There is absolutely nothing that I saw from 117 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 3: Miami in Game one that makes me think they even 118 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 3: have a shot to win this series. They threw the 119 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 3: kitchen sink at Denver. Defensively, I mean, they held to 120 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 3: one hundred and four points, right, but even in the 121 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 3: fourth quarter when they turned a twenty one point deficit 122 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 3: and got it down to nine. As you touched on briefly, 123 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 3: they're running that tricky zone that they have. They have 124 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 3: actually a couple of different zones, but they're running a zone. 125 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 2: I think. 126 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 3: They had one three one, they had two to three. 127 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 3: They had something looked like a three to two gime 128 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 3: in this It was just the Yeah, they were doing 129 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 3: everything and Yoki gets the ball right in the middle 130 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 3: of the paint, ten foot jumper, wide open, misses Jamal Murray. 131 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 3: Next possession down, twelve foot jumper, wide open in the paint, misses. 132 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 3: Third possession, Jokich just the ball in the middle, kicks 133 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 3: it out to Porter Junior, wide open corner. 134 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 2: Three. 135 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 3: He just misses. So it was it wasn't anything that 136 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 3: Miami was doing to stop them. It was Denver's just 137 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 3: missing shots. And if that's all you can hope for 138 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 3: as you're, you know, trying to win a series or 139 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 3: win a game, that's not gonna work against a team 140 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 3: that's been this good, this consistently good, as Denver has 141 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 3: throughout this postseason. You need to be able to make 142 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 3: them uncomfortable. And I don't think Miami has the horses 143 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 3: at all to make them uncomfortable. 144 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: It's disappointing Struce and Duncan Robinson a combined one of 145 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: sixteen shooting and one of fourteen from three. And I'm 146 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 2: sure Miami Heat defenders, Hey, hey, Strusan Duncan Robinson will 147 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 2: pick it up. We're not too worried. This is just 148 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 2: one game, an off night for them. Here's the problem. 149 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: They had off nights in the Boston series where they 150 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: were unconscious and making shots from deep and being a 151 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: great three point shooting team. This version tonight, what you saw, 152 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 2: That's what they were for eighty two games in the 153 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: regular season. Struce is off. What are you gonna do? 154 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: Caleb Martin, who was? I mean, people are joking around 155 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: that he's like the second coming of Steph Curry against Boston. 156 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: I saw stat rob that he hit sixteen of twenty 157 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 2: jump shots against Boston inside the arc jump shots sixteen 158 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: or twenty, Like, you can't continue that. Kevin Durant may 159 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 2: do something like that. Caleb Martin so then gets to 160 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 2: start one of seven. You know, I just I don't 161 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 2: see a path of victory. I would say their best 162 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 2: opportunity would be feed Jimmy Butler and just hope and 163 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: pray that he can get guys in foul trouble, that 164 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 2: he can have one of those nights where he is 165 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 2: ungodly and Miami somehow scrambles a win and they can 166 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: go home one one. But I don't no, Rob, it 167 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: was one of those games where, honestly, by third quarter, 168 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: I'm jotting down in my notes, like why doesn't anyone 169 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: want the Phoenix Sun's job? That's the kind of thing 170 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: I'm putting in my notespad, And it's like, geez, you know, 171 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 2: could we even squeeze a full podcast out of the 172 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 2: Denver nuggets of Miami heat? Like I know people are 173 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 2: concerned about ratings, I don't really care that much. I'm 174 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 2: not a TV executive. I'm a content provider. So I'm 175 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 2: of the belief that, like, hey, I would love a 176 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 2: long series. That'd be awesome, wonderful, more gambling content or 177 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 2: chatter leading right into the NBA Draft. I don't think 178 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 2: we're gonna get that so you know, Game two obviously 179 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 2: must win. I will say the biggest factor for me, 180 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 2: robbetting into Game two is you get an extra day 181 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 2: of rest for the Miami Heat, hoping that they're not 182 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 2: gassed after that seven game series against the Celtics. You 183 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 2: get an extra day of rest at altitude. They will 184 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 2: have been there I think now for five days. Maybe 185 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 2: their bodies have acclimated and maybe they can pull a 186 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 2: rabbit out of the hat in Denver Game two. But 187 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: I'm not very optimistic, Rubb. 188 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, you shouldn't be. And you know much has been 189 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 3: made of the Miami Heat only shooting two free throws 190 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 3: in Game one, and obviously that's a big star. I 191 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 3: think that was the NBA record. I mean, so I 192 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 3: don't know this yet. We haven't seen the officials report yet. 193 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 3: For Game two, I'm willing to bet that Adam Silver 194 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 3: is going to go full David Stern and put the 195 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 3: cooler in Scott Foster for Game two and ensure that 196 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 3: Miami's getting at least fifteen free throws I think closer 197 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 3: to twenty to do everything they can to extend this series, 198 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 3: because coming in you don't care about TV ratings, but 199 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 3: coming into the NBA Finals. It was the best TV 200 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 3: ratings they've had in twenty twelve through the first three rounds. 201 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 3: Obviously a lot of that was Warriors Lakers. I mean, 202 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 3: that was just a monster for them. But can you 203 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 3: imagine Adam Silver going up to ESPN and trying to 204 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: renegotiate this TV deal and you have what could be 205 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 3: a four game suite between two mid market team franchises 206 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 3: and what may be the lowest TV rated final since 207 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 3: the Bubble. 208 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 2: It has one of those It has a feel of 209 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: like an NCAA tournament where you get a bunch of 210 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: upsets and those are thrilling and exciting and oh my gosh, 211 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: the juice, the drama, and then you get to the 212 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 2: final four and you've got like Vanderbilt against Cornell or so, 213 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: you know, one of these just like non sexy matchup. 214 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 3: The final four we just had. 215 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: She's I gotta think of San Diego State was there? Yukon? 216 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Yukon was the only brand name that was 217 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 3: in it. 218 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 2: I've already forgotten the other two teams. Do you know 219 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: them off the top of your head? 220 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: No? 221 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 3: I know one of them was Purple Denver. They had 222 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 3: that that that short guy Ian in Madison Square Guarden. 223 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: They didn't make the funnal four. 224 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I liked him because I. 225 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 2: Think they lost in the. 226 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 3: F au and alert. 227 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, the alert. That's right. Yeah listen. Now, 228 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: as as San Diego State, I think they want on 229 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 2: a buzzer beater in the semi final, which is a 230 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: great shot, fun game, but again, the juice, the excitement. 231 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: It's like, you know, on the day off, we're gonna 232 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: talk about Miami heat strategies. I don't think so at 233 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 2: any rate. I think we can move on. Some news happened, 234 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 2: Uh well, I guess technically Thursday, while I was recording 235 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 2: doing the Heard on TV, Brad Stevens came out and 236 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 2: defended his coach, Joe Missoula and said Joe Mizula will 237 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: be back undeniably. Now, this came on the heels of 238 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 2: a report from I think the Boston Globe that Ime 239 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 2: Udoka in Houston, the former Boston coach, was plucking three 240 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 2: assistants from the Boston staff, taking three coaches from Joe 241 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 2: Mizula's staff. Maybe they think that, you know, Joe's in 242 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 2: over his head and he's probably gonna be one more 243 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 2: year and then done. But Davie Balen in Boston, and 244 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 2: then came the discussion, like what do you do with 245 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 2: Jalen Brown again. I think we'll probably end up disagreeing 246 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 2: on this staunchly rob. I don't see how you can 247 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 2: trade an All NBA player when his stock is low 248 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 2: after a game seven, when he has eight baskets and 249 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 2: eight turnovers. I think that's stupid. That's bad business. That's 250 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: the same idea of the Warriors trading Jordan Pool when 251 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 2: his stock is horrible. I think Jalen Brown's twenty six 252 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: tatum is twenty five. We all know you gotta crawl 253 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 2: before you can walk in the NBA, and the list 254 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: is out there that KD didn't win till he was 255 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: twenty eight, and Lebron didn't win till he was twenty 256 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 2: seven or whatever the numbers are seth Curry twenty seven. 257 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 2: Like you, it doesn't happen instantly, okay. I know they've 258 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: had their chances three trips to the Eastern Conference Finals 259 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 2: in the last four years, only broke through once. You know. 260 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 2: I went on the herd and I actually said I 261 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 2: would do the opposite instead of trading Jalen Brown do 262 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 2: you think the Warriors were nervous in twenty sixteen when 263 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 2: they lost the three to one lead the seventy three 264 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: win Warriors rob So they win seventy three games, they 265 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 2: blow through the postseason, and then they're up three to 266 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 2: one on the Calves. Bogit goes down, Draymond suspended and 267 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 2: they lose. At that point, do you think the Warriors thought, geez, 268 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 2: you know, Lebron had his guys, they were healthy. We 269 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: couldn't beat him. We got to break up these splash brothers. 270 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: We gotta make some changes. I know we have one title, 271 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: but we got to make some moves. We gotta get better. No, 272 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 2: they thought, we're not removing to get better. We're not 273 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 2: taking out one of our stars. We're adding, and they 274 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: added Kevin Durant. That's what the Celtics need to do. 275 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 2: Obviously you can't get Kevin Durant, but you've got to 276 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: do everything in your power to keep Brown and Tatum 277 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: the all NBA players, and do whatever the hell you 278 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 2: can to go after a Carl Anthony Towns if he 279 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 2: is available. I know the Knicks are gonna be hot 280 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: for call Anthony Towns in Minnesota. I think Rob This 281 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 2: is probably a little too risky for a lot of people, 282 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: but I would certainly kick the tires on Zion Williamson 283 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 2: in New Orleans. We're talking about a dupe guy like 284 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 2: Tatum who has had a rich injury history. However, when 285 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 2: he's there and healthy, he's dominant. And given the David 286 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 2: Griffin comments and the ending there for Zion this season 287 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: where he kind of refused to play due the injury, 288 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: and I mean, the guy's doing three sixty dunks and 289 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: warm ups and they're like, now, okay, he's not ready. 290 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: Maybe they're ready to move on. I mean, you've got 291 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: some chips. You got a bunch of draft picks still have. 292 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 2: You have Grant Williams who's probably on his way out. 293 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: You know, you want to keep Derek White, you want 294 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: to keep Brogden, but those two guys are expendable. They're 295 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: valuable chips on a team that could use role players. 296 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: But this team needs a third star. You know, Robert 297 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 2: Williams is rarely healthy. I think you've got to make 298 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 2: a move, rob instead of trading Brown and trying to 299 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 2: go for like Damian Lillard or something, I think the 300 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: Celtics need to go after another premier player that could 301 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 2: put that over the top. Didn't remember how close they 302 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 2: were to the finals against worse up to one. I mean, 303 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 2: you look around the league and you've got to be 304 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: able to find a third star. Remember how Lebron and 305 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: Wade rob kind of overlapped. They're both wings. I know 306 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 2: Lebron is more of a facilitator, weighed more just a 307 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 2: scoring machine. Chris Bosh was always like the third guy. 308 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 2: Kevin Love was the third guy, but behind Kyrie and Lebron. 309 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: I think the Celtics need a definite third guy because 310 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 2: I don't know that I think that Marcus Smart. You 311 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 2: know he's had a long run there. I just don't 312 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 2: know if he's enough of a third guy. They have 313 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 2: two and then a bunch of good pieces, and we 314 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 2: thought they had the best roster in the league. I 315 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: don't know, Man, you never want to overreact, but with 316 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 2: the new coach, I think you've got to tweak something. 317 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: You can't run it back without doing something to improve 318 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 2: the team. And I don't mean trading Brown and certainly 319 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: not Tatum. 320 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 3: I agree with you, and you know I've said on 321 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 3: this podcast, I don't think Joe Mizzula is the guy 322 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 3: I think the fact that you mentioned three assistants going 323 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 3: to team up with them. A Udoka in Houston, which 324 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 3: is basically torn down to the studs kind of a 325 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 3: roster they're not good at all. So that kind of 326 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 3: think says a lot about the leadership that Udoka possesses 327 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 3: that Joe Mizula doesn't. That you know, people gravitate more 328 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 3: towards him, So I think that's obviously priority number one. 329 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 3: They're not gonna be able to Joamsula, so maybe you 330 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 3: can bring in some very seasoned assistant coaches, you know, 331 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 3: like when Frank Vogel came with the Lakers, he brought 332 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 3: Lionel Hollins with him and Jason Kidd, guys who would 333 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 3: different skill sets. One guy's very relatable to the players. 334 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 3: One guy's been through a million playoff series. So you have, 335 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 3: you know, a very I'm not gonna call it an 336 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 3: all star staff, but you have basically everything covered what 337 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 3: Boston needs to do roster wise. I agree with you. 338 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 3: I wouldn't trade Jalen Brown. I don't. I just don't 339 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 3: believe in getting rid of guys in the prime of 340 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 3: their career who are all NBA players. I know he 341 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 3: has his faults. He can't go left for whatever reason, 342 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 3: you never learned how to dribble to it with his 343 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 3: left hand. That's why he had eight turnovers in game seven. 344 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 3: But to your point, they have upwards of sixty million 345 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 3: dollars tied up in three point guards and Marcus Smart, 346 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 3: Derek White, and Malcolm Brogden. Now obviously they are interchangeable. 347 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 3: They can play off the ball on the ball, and 348 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 3: that's fine, but neither none of those three I would 349 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 3: consider to be a third star. None of those three 350 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 3: I would consider to be the playmaker that you would 351 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 3: need when Jalen Brown can't dribble and Jason Tatum rolds 352 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 3: his ankle. None of those three what I would consider 353 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 3: to be, you know, floor general types where when things 354 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 3: get bogged down and you're missing twenty five threes whatever 355 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 3: they're missing in game six and seven, to say, you 356 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 3: know what, Jalen go on the block or or al 357 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 3: We're gonna set something that's going to get a shot 358 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 3: going towards the basket. That we're not just settling for 359 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 3: pull up threes over over and over and over. We're 360 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 3: gonna run something to get us a good shot. That's 361 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 3: something that like Chris Paul did really well in his heyday. 362 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 3: Even a guy like Tias Jones and Memphis is really 363 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 3: good at that. Like, they don't even have that with 364 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 3: those three guys. So if i'm them, I don't know 365 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 3: if you can get that third star that you're alluding to. 366 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 3: I just don't know if they have the assets to 367 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 3: get it. But they they can't run it back with 368 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 3: the same core. They need to switch it up somewhere, 369 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 3: and I think a playmaking or a quarterback type point 370 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 3: guard is what they need. 371 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 2: So I just went to look at the free agent 372 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 2: point guards. Good news, bad news. The best guy by 373 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 2: by far is Kyrie Irving. You don't want him back 374 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: in Boston. The second best guy, well, let's get him 375 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 2: and I'll come back to them. The third best guy 376 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 2: they have on this list is D'Angelo Russell. I don't 377 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 2: want anything to do with him. I don't. I know 378 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 2: you're not a huge fan. I can't imagine Boston would 379 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 2: want Russell after that. It's like Patrick Beverly, Russell Westbrook, 380 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 2: then a shrewd. None of those guys really get me excited. However, 381 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 2: the number two guys interesting. Fred Van Vliet a good 382 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: three point shooter at times was the second best player 383 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 2: on the Raptors when they won the title with Kawhi Leonard. 384 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 2: I know they had Lowry, but I know they had Siakam. 385 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 2: Van Vliet was just very good. Maybe I'm, you know, 386 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: giving him too much credit for one series, but van 387 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:29,239 Speaker 2: Vliet's a really good player. And I know you could say, well, 388 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 2: he's basically what smaller than Derek White, he's older than 389 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 2: Derek White? Is is it really an upgrade? Like? Is 390 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: Fred van Vliet gonna be your third best player? And 391 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 2: I would I would say that Fred van Vliet, to 392 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 2: me offensively, is better than Marcus Smart, Derek White or Brogden. 393 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 2: I just I don't know if if if that's the 394 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 2: guy rob that's gonna put you over the top. And 395 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 2: then the question becomes, well, this is what's tricky. There's 396 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 2: no center that's gonna put you over the top, right, 397 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 2: those don't really exis so you've got two elite wings, 398 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 2: do you add a third wing? If it's not a 399 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 2: point guard? Like so it Boston is in a bit 400 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 2: of a tricky spot. 401 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you could look at I don't know, if 402 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: you don't want to look at point guards, you could say, 403 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 1: all right, well, what are the shooting guards like, because 404 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, Rob they have two wings both who 405 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: can handle score inside and out. 406 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 2: Are we just are we just hitting our heads against 407 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 2: the tree here saying listen, there's nothing that works. They've 408 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 2: got to kind of run it back. 409 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 3: Well, if they do have to run it back, I 410 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 3: guess the only argument for running it back, and to 411 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 3: me would be that you're banking on Jalen Brown and 412 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 3: Jason Tatum while they're in their primes. They're in the 413 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 3: early part of their primes. So maybe one of those 414 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 3: guys takes a step up where they can be more 415 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 3: of a ball handler type guy. 416 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: Tatum was first team All NBA two years and. 417 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean, even as good as he is, 418 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 3: he's creating for other guys is not really. 419 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 2: He's like a five to five or six assists kind 420 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 2: of guy. 421 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 3: In today's NBA. That's what you know. In the two thousands, 422 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 3: that's what three or four Yeah, Like, I mean, the 423 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 3: pace is so fast, and as much as they shoot threes, 424 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 3: I hope you're getting five or six assists a game, 425 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 3: you know, And so maybe that that they're banking on 426 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 3: Jason Tatum taking that next step and emulating his guy 427 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 3: Kobe Bryant, where it's like, hey, we don't really need 428 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 3: a point guard because he's gonna have the ball so 429 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 3: much and he can create for others. But again, your 430 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 3: window is now. I know they're young and they're in 431 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 3: their prime, Like, do you is that really what you 432 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 3: want to do is just hope that it's just gonna 433 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 3: come together, didn't you? Why don't you want to capitalize 434 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 3: it while you can like that? That's my opinion, that's 435 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 3: what I would do. 436 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 2: One last name real quick, and we saw him tonight, 437 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 2: Bruce Brown. He's gonna get paid by somebody. I like 438 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 2: him a lot. He's not a true point guard, but 439 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 2: he can play. It feels like one, two, three, maybe 440 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: even some four. Really good rebounder for his size, he's 441 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 2: gonna be I think he's gonna get paid. That'll be 442 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 2: a big loss for Denver. Does that do anything for you? 443 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 2: He's considered the second best shooting guard on the market 444 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 2: this summer. Rob It's Harden is number one. Jordan Clarkson 445 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 2: Josh Hart, I can't cannot imagine the Knicks letting him go. 446 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 2: Austin Reeves Lakers are gonna match anything. I mean, Gary 447 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 2: Trent can't stay healthy, Kris Lavert, like Dante DiVincenzo rob 448 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 2: it's bleak man. This is not gonna be easy for 449 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 2: Boston now that you actually look at the names. I 450 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 2: think you're gonna have to get creative with a trade 451 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 2: and go after somebody that people want. I don't I 452 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 2: don't know if the third starter could be had though 453 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 2: that like third Star. 454 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,479 Speaker 3: Sorry, yeah, I mean you're gonna have to get somebody 455 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 3: either who has a huge contract that's tough to move, 456 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 3: like you know, a Bradley Bild. I'm not gonna get 457 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 3: Bradley Bil, but Bradley Bil's got a massive contract. 458 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: You know. 459 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 3: It might be an albatross down the road. Or maybe 460 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 3: you go after somebody who you know is entering free 461 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 3: agency in a year or so. Their team might be 462 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 3: cast Drapp to bring him back. Maybe like a to 463 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 3: Johntay Murray. Maybe you can call up Atlanta. 464 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 2: You know he's represented by Trey Young. Might be better 465 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 2: better too, No, I. 466 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 3: Obviously you can't, but it's just you know, Dejontay Maury 467 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 3: I believe has one year left on his deal. After 468 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 3: this one, he's gonna be entering free agency, because it 469 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 3: doesn't make sense with his contract for him to extend. 470 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 3: He's going to have to get to free agency and 471 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 3: then get a big deal. So maybe you can convince 472 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 3: him like, hey, he's not going to stay in Atlanta, 473 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 3: We'll give you Marcus Smart and the three picks you 474 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 3: gave up to get him. Maybe you do something like that. 475 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 2: I like Dejeanta Maura a lot man, probably too much. 476 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 2: Before we get to the last topic, I see the 477 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 2: line is now popping up. Denver favored by nine in 478 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 2: Game two, nine point favorites in Game two. It's tough 479 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 2: enough to want to bet him again. I mean, Miami's 480 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 2: obviously gonna come out as firing on all cylinders. And 481 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,719 Speaker 2: I do believe in Game two the Lakers covered by 482 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: half a point. Nine is a big number, and you 483 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 2: saw they were up by twenty four and it was 484 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 2: trimmed to nine, and it was like a three minute 485 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 2: sweat where you're like, oh, is this gonna screw me? Anyways, 486 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 2: final topic, but I just probably the best unanswered question 487 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 2: in the NBA for me right now on the coaching 488 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 2: front is why does nobody want the Phoenix Sun's job? 489 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 2: So every it's pretty clear that Nick Nurse Monty Woods. 490 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 2: They were waiting to see what happened with Boston, right 491 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 2: because when Miami went up three to oh, the talk 492 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: was does Missoula get canned? Well, that's the best job. 493 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 2: Then they managed to win three straight and it goes 494 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 2: game seven, so Missoula is keeping his job. Nick Nurse says, 495 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 2: I will jump on the Sixers job, and it sounds 496 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 2: like he's making a plea to James Harden to stay. Obviously, 497 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 2: Monty Williams gets a ridiculous contract from the Detroit Pistons. 498 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 2: I like Monti Williams. I'm rooting for him. He got 499 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 2: kind of a raw deal in Phoenix. And let's be frank, Rob, 500 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 2: if you had got fired from your job and they 501 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 2: said we're gonna we owe you twenty one million dollars goodbye, 502 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 2: you have the chance to not work for three years 503 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 2: and just collect twenty one million dollars. I know the 504 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 2: competitive juices in you would want to go back out there. 505 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 2: But man, seven million dollars a year to do nothing. 506 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: If you invest that money, right, I mean, you don't 507 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 2: have to work again. I don't know. Anyways, Monty Williams 508 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 2: is going to Detroit. Gotta get paid, and you're waiting 509 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 2: for some of the Suns to hire somebody, and maybe 510 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 2: it happens in the middle of the night and I 511 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 2: look like an ad in the morning. But why does 512 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 2: nobody want the chance to work with Devin Booker and 513 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 2: Kevin Durant? And I think you just gotta sit there 514 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 2: for a second. I know that everybody canna say, well, 515 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 2: you don't know what's happening with Aidon. Nick Nurse just 516 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 2: took the Sixers job not knowing what's up with Harden. 517 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 2: Like I look at this Phoenix job, I'm like, why 518 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 2: does it nobody wanted? They were the favorites in the 519 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 2: West when the playoffs started. They have Kevin Durant and 520 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 2: Devin Booker. I mean, you're not worried about Chris Paul 521 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 2: And I start to wonder, is there a sentiment that 522 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 2: maybe people are worried that Phoenix makes some hail Mary 523 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 2: play with their new owner for Kyrie Irving and people 524 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 2: are just scared. They're like, I don't want to deal 525 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 2: with that crap. Remember it, Kyrie and Kevin Durant were 526 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 2: the ones who said at Brooklyn, we don't need to coach, 527 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 2: you just roll the ball out we don't need to coach. 528 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 2: And I rob, I just I don't know, man, this 529 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 2: Phoenix job, I know what it appears appealing on the surface, 530 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 2: but you know what, if this goes haywire, they're not 531 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 2: blaming Kevin Durant. They're not blaming Devin Booker. All the 532 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 2: heat is coming on a coach, whoever that guy is. 533 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know what's funny is this job should 534 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 3: be one of the plumb jobs in the NBA. You 535 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 3: have two all world caliber talents. You have a good 536 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 3: stat stuffer at center, and you have a point guard 537 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 3: with a contract that could easily be traded because it's 538 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 3: not fully guaranteed. I know, you don't have any draft picks, 539 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 3: but you have some kind of nucleus in place, and 540 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 3: your owner has shown that money is not an object 541 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 3: to him. He's willing to pay whatever it takes to 542 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 3: make it happen. And yet, according to a report out 543 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 3: of Phoenix, John Gambadoro covers the team and locally on 544 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 3: the radio there, their three finalists are Frank Vogel, a 545 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 3: retreat and flamed out with the Lakers, Doc Rivers, who 546 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 3: may be the worst big game coach in NBA history, 547 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 3: and Kevin Young who has never been an NBA head coach. 548 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 3: Like I know that you know Emai Udoka, Nick Nurse 549 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 3: and and Darvin Ham did it pretty well as rookie 550 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 3: head coaches. But is that really what you wanted to 551 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 3: hand over your keys to your franchise with When you 552 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 3: have Kevin Durant at the back end of his prime, 553 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 3: you have no draft picks, Devin Booker are ready to 554 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 3: win right now. They're the only teams who really put 555 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 3: a scare into Denver so far in this postseason, and 556 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 3: you want to turn it over to an unproven guy. 557 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 3: I don't understand it unless the reports are that, or 558 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 3: maybe it's not a report. It was like a scuttle 559 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 3: button kind of a situation that Matt Ishbia is more 560 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 3: like a Jerry Jones type where he wants to run 561 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 3: the team, not just own the team. That's the only 562 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 3: thing I can think of as to why they haven't 563 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 3: been able to get the cream of the crop with 564 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 3: the coaching. 565 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 2: I don't understand it. Yeah, Kevin Young is the one 566 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 2: speculated to get at the assistant Phoenix coach, which could 567 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 2: be because he has a relationship with Booker. I don't 568 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 2: know that you can blame Monty Williams for what happened 569 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: to them. They just did not have a lot of 570 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 2: time together. And oh look, the team that beat them 571 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 2: just smoked the Lakers and is probably gonna win the title. 572 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: It just I just found it odd that nobody wants 573 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 2: to coach Kevin Durant when you know, supposedly he's one 574 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 2: of the fifteen best players in the history of the league. 575 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 2: Just a little odd. I'm not saying anything harsh. I'll 576 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 2: probably tag KD in this what I posted on IG 577 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 2: and we'll see if he replies to something starky. I 578 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 2: showed my son the last time he responded to something 579 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 2: I said, and I think I was just joking around, 580 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 2: and I wrote, stay up king, you know, just because 581 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 2: like that's what kids say now, and I laugh anytime 582 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 2: I hear somebody you the word king or queen. Yeah, exactly, 583 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 2: exactly exactly. And Durant replied with, like the thumbs up 584 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 2: or Whatever's something positive that he liked, like stay up king, 585 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 2: you know. So, I don't know, it's just weird that, 586 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 2: you know, Durant in Brooklyn didn't say we don't need 587 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 2: a coach, and now he's in Phoenix, good guy Manni 588 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 2: Williams gets fired. Now, nobody's like climbing over women and 589 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 2: children to coach two of the best scorers in the league. 590 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 2: Just very odd. Anyways, that'll be it for today. We'll 591 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 2: be back Monday talking Game two of the Finals. I 592 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 2: think we'll probably start to transition a little bit back 593 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 2: to NFL or any juicy NBA stories that come our way, 594 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 2: like maybe leaks of the Jah Morant suspension. But we'll 595 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 2: talk to you then.