Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your
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Speaker 1: Dane Brugler, Jeff Kavanaugh, Kevin Turner and Kyle Yeomans. There
Speaker 1: are one hundred in twenty seven days until the NFL
Speaker 1: Draft April twenty ninth, of twenty twenty one. We are
Speaker 1: on the last episode of twenty twenty though, actually I
Speaker 1: take that back. We've got one more, I guess next week,
Speaker 1: but the last one with these two guys, Jeff Cavanaugh
Speaker 1: and Dane Brugler. I'm Kyle Yeoman's here on the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Welcome in, everybody, Glad you're
Speaker 1: with us. We're gonna hit a ton of names today
Speaker 1: because you know, it's the Hall of Day season and
Speaker 1: we're gonna gift a ton of names off of the
Speaker 1: list of Dane Brugler and Jeff Cavanaugh here over the
Speaker 1: next forty five minutes. No Kat today is he is
Speaker 1: out at the moment, but we wish Kat the best.
Speaker 1: We won't have him back on once the new year turns.
Speaker 1: But I want to address something really quickly right off
Speaker 1: the top of this show, and we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick. We're gona talk about the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: But the Cowboys gotta win. On Sunday, they defeated the
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers forty one to thirty three,
Speaker 1: and Jeff is Jeff is pumping his fist, but he
Speaker 1: also on our little WebEx call said rip to Captain
Speaker 1: trade down. Jeff is Captain trade Down dead at the moment,
Speaker 1: he is he done because of this Cowboys win. Well,
Speaker 1: dead is a very extreme term, but I guess I
Speaker 1: did put our ip. He did so Team Tank Team
Speaker 1: Tank through a tread so it's kind of stuck and
Speaker 1: doing circle and Captain Trade Down has been unseated from
Speaker 1: the horse. He couldn't hold on for the eight seconds
Speaker 1: and he broke a leg. So, yeah, we're in a
Speaker 1: tough spot. We're currently Uh, I'm gonna have to get
Speaker 1: a new shirt. You see, you have to capt trade
Speaker 1: down shirt. He kept trade down but yeah, thank you. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to get a Captain stick and pick shirt.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm gonna have to do something different. Cap
Speaker 1: captain trade down's in peril or in peril right now?
Speaker 1: He sent a little bit of trouble And Dan, I
Speaker 1: know you had talked about earlier in one of the
Speaker 1: previous shows that we had that you were okay with
Speaker 1: trading down. Are you are you on Captain sticking Pick's
Speaker 1: right hand side this time? Are you are you rolling
Speaker 1: with still with captain trade down? As the Cowboys currently
Speaker 1: sitting ninth, Yeah, and well last week they were with
Speaker 1: that Charger's win, it felt like the Cowboys were in
Speaker 1: a position of power at that number four pick. Uh,
Speaker 1: a good spot for a training back, uh, quarterback a
Speaker 1: needy team moving up there now sitting at eight, I
Speaker 1: still think they're in a position to trade back. You know,
Speaker 1: you look at some of the teams that are directly
Speaker 1: behind them. There's still gonna be some teams looking for
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Whether that's the forty nine ers, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: could be the Broncos, could be a Lions, the Patriots,
Speaker 1: the Bears. So this is still a position where good
Speaker 1: chance at least one of those quarterbacks, Trey Lance, Justin Fields,
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson, whoever ends up being there, could could be
Speaker 1: a possible trade partner where they can move back to
Speaker 1: the mid teens, and I still like their options. They
Speaker 1: could go corner, they go jac Horn, they could go
Speaker 1: tackle or Sean Slater. So I don't think the trade
Speaker 1: back option is dead, and I think that it just
Speaker 1: it just it brings up a new different scenario with
Speaker 1: the players that you're moving back to get. And I'd
Speaker 1: still do it if it means I'm getting an extra
Speaker 1: two or multiple draft multiple draft picks that I can
Speaker 1: use towards just building up this roster. See, Jeff Dane
Speaker 1: is right there. I mean he's helping captain trade No. No,
Speaker 1: he's sitting here pushing you know. No, No, we appreciate it. Look,
Speaker 1: captain trade down, and I appreciate it. Even though we're
Speaker 1: the same person. We like we like the boost. But
Speaker 1: when Dane's not realizing is the Cowboys are about to
Speaker 1: win the division. So I just don't even worry about
Speaker 1: any of this stuff. It's about to go down. Dwayne.
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins has been up to, are you captain trade up?
Speaker 1: At that point? If the Cowboys win the division, now
Speaker 1: we're just gonna do the draft. Now, Okay, we're just
Speaker 1: gonna do the draft. Okay, we're gonna watch. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: gonna watch the guys, and we're gonna figure this thing out.
Speaker 1: If trade down is a possibility, it'll be great. Won't
Speaker 1: have the same value that I once thought it would
Speaker 1: because the Cowboys are winning games, but hey, you're supposed
Speaker 1: to win the games. That's what it's all about. Guys.
Speaker 1: You're supposed to try your best. Yeah. I would never
Speaker 1: tell them not to try their best. Good job, I
Speaker 1: like that, Jeff staying positive here. Now, that's one of
Speaker 1: the interesting things about doing this show a little bit
Speaker 1: earlier this year than we've done it in the past
Speaker 1: in terms of the draft show, is we get to
Speaker 1: kind of look at the fluctuation of value. I mean,
Speaker 1: two weeks ago we were talking about the Cowboys maybe
Speaker 1: picking third overall. They're currently sitting at eighth, and a
Speaker 1: win next week could put them right in the eleven, twelve, thirteen,
Speaker 1: fourteen range whenever April comes around. But it also is
Speaker 1: interesting to look at from an overall draft perspective because
Speaker 1: we thought through the first fifteen weeks of the year
Speaker 1: that the New York Jets We're gonna be the first
Speaker 1: overall pick and Dane. Now we know that is at
Speaker 1: least in peril. You talk about captain trade down being
Speaker 1: in peril. The Jets are in peril of having that
Speaker 1: number one pick because they beat the Los Angeles Rams
Speaker 1: this past week, giving up that first overall pick to
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars. What do you think about that scenario
Speaker 1: and how that switched around so quickly for Jets fans,
Speaker 1: it's fascinating. You know, for the longest time time we
Speaker 1: just kind of assumed that the Jets would be picking one.
Speaker 1: They couldn't win a game, even when they had to win,
Speaker 1: like against the Raiders, they found a way to screw
Speaker 1: it up. So it just seemed like they were destined
Speaker 1: for that top pick. And in this draft, that's what
Speaker 1: you want. This is the draft where there is a
Speaker 1: big time quarterback prospect staring them in the face with
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. And with that win, they're now tied with
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, and the Jaguars have mathematically clinched the tiebreaker.
Speaker 1: So if both these teams, the Jags and the Jets,
Speaker 1: lose their final two games, then the Jaguars will have
Speaker 1: that number one pick. Trevor Lawrence will be the guy,
Speaker 1: and the Jets find themselves in an interesting situation where
Speaker 1: they have to basically put Sam Darnold on their draft
Speaker 1: board and figure out, Okay, are we better off sticking
Speaker 1: with Darnald and drafting Penney Suel here where we could
Speaker 1: have bookend tackles with McKay, Beckton and Penney Suel. Do
Speaker 1: we go Jamar Chase here and we give Sam darn
Speaker 1: Arnold a big time wide receiver that can make plays
Speaker 1: down the field. So or maybe they are captain trade down,
Speaker 1: maybe they look to move back and because they need
Speaker 1: more draft picks, they need a lot of help elsewhere.
Speaker 1: So the Jets, you know, last week it was it
Speaker 1: was easy. Trevor Lawrence is the top pick, and you
Speaker 1: start thinking about what you're gonna do with that second
Speaker 1: first rounder and then in the second round, now wide
Speaker 1: open options, and it starts. The first step is figuring
Speaker 1: out Sam Darnold, where he is in relation to these
Speaker 1: quarterback prospects and do they feel comfortable moving forward with
Speaker 1: him as their quarterback? Where do you put Sam Darnold
Speaker 1: on this board if you're if you're evaluating him up
Speaker 1: against these quarterbacks, and Jeff, I want to ask you
Speaker 1: the same question. But Dane, where do you put where
Speaker 1: do you put Sam? And where does he rank in
Speaker 1: terms of the tree Lances, the zach Wilsons and the
Speaker 1: Justin fields of the world. It's so tough for us
Speaker 1: to say, I mean, I love Sam Darnold coming out
Speaker 1: as a prospect, But the Jets have a unique have
Speaker 1: the information right now. You know, how is Sam doing
Speaker 1: in meetings? You know, how is he doing in the
Speaker 1: quarterback film room, how is he doing digesting the playbook
Speaker 1: and then you know, doing what is asked of him
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. We just don't have that information, so
Speaker 1: it is a little tough for those of us on
Speaker 1: the outside to one hundred percent know where he would
Speaker 1: stack up with these other quarterbacks. Uh. You know, the
Speaker 1: Jets could look at it and say, you know what,
Speaker 1: we like Sam, but it's just it's not working and
Speaker 1: he needs a change of scenery. We need new life
Speaker 1: at this position, and they can decide the part ways
Speaker 1: and that's just you know, what's best for everybody. Or
Speaker 1: they could say, you know what, Sam's doing everything that
Speaker 1: he can. Let's get a new coach in here. Let's
Speaker 1: see how he does with new coaching staff. Let's build
Speaker 1: up the roster around him and we think we have
Speaker 1: something and that's that's probably the most likely scenario. But
Speaker 1: you know, who knows. We just don't know what's going
Speaker 1: on behind the scenes there uh in New York, and
Speaker 1: it's it's it's tough or Darnald because he has not
Speaker 1: had the wide receivers, he has not had the offensive line,
Speaker 1: he has not had the coaching. I know I sound
Speaker 1: like a Darnald apologist right now, but try winning without
Speaker 1: at least one or two of those three things. It's
Speaker 1: just it's not going to happen. Yeah, Dane is a
Speaker 1: He's a Sam Darnold homer, and that happens from time
Speaker 1: to time. You know, when I love a guy. I know,
Speaker 1: I think it's it's a it's a fair point that
Speaker 1: every quarterback has different circumstances when they come into the league.
Speaker 1: But for me, I think if the Jets and so
Speaker 1: many teams call me for my draft advice, I'm sure
Speaker 1: Jets are one of them, would I would say, you
Speaker 1: have three years of evidence that he can't play, so
Speaker 1: we're gonna try somebody else. And yeah, he didn't have
Speaker 1: as nearly as good a shot as guys who go
Speaker 1: into much better circumstances. But I got three years were
Speaker 1: coming towards the end of him being an affordable quarterback,
Speaker 1: and I got three years. That says that he's not good.
Speaker 1: So I would try somebody else. Now, on doing the
Speaker 1: draft show on Cowboys dot Com, I would love it
Speaker 1: if the Jets would just stick and pick Piney Seul
Speaker 1: and kind of throw a wrench into things. Where, now,
Speaker 1: what do the Bengals do? And are the quarterbacks going
Speaker 1: to stretch one more pick or are people just jumping
Speaker 1: in more of a hurry to go get a guy.
Speaker 1: So from a Cowboys perspective, I hope the Jets do
Speaker 1: pick second, and I hope they do skip quarterback so
Speaker 1: that those can stretch a little bit and maybe one
Speaker 1: can be there for you to trade down with. But
Speaker 1: I would tell the Jets, look, three years is three
Speaker 1: years he's been a bad NFL quarterback. Try somebody else.
Speaker 1: So basically what I'm hearing here is captain trade down
Speaker 1: is not actually off the horse, because you just gave
Speaker 1: me a scenario where captain trade downs there, and I
Speaker 1: know things can change and there's a lot that goes
Speaker 1: into it. Look, but I'm never off the horse. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm always on the horse. Okay, what I am is
Speaker 1: I'm an emotional person reacting to adversity. Okay, the Captain
Speaker 1: trade Down hit some adversity this week, lost some value
Speaker 1: in his pick. And so now Captain trade Down is
Speaker 1: sitting here to Crossroads on a gympie ankle with a
Speaker 1: bad quad, trying to hold onto the horse, and he's wondering, well,
Speaker 1: now do we want to chase down this way to
Speaker 1: two wins? While Dwayne Haskins is at gentleman's establishments, maybe
Speaker 1: about to get suspended. Maybe Washington's gonna lose two games
Speaker 1: in a row, and I'm about to go into the
Speaker 1: playoffs because I go to and oh, or is Captain
Speaker 1: trade Down still trying to lose two games? He doesn't know?
Speaker 1: Captain trade Down is confused right now? That's all? Okay,
Speaker 1: that's that's It's something that I guess you could look
Speaker 1: at at this point in the draft. But also, I
Speaker 1: mean you talk about the Cowboys in a scenario that
Speaker 1: could work out for him or them I guess not him,
Speaker 1: not Captain Traddown, but for them. Whenever it comes to
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals potentially taking a non quarterback behind the
Speaker 1: Jets taking a non quarterback, and it takes those guys
Speaker 1: off the board. But Jeff, you asked the question in
Speaker 1: the group me this weekend or the group text this
Speaker 1: weekend that whenever it comes to being in the top ten,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of pressure on these organizations. And right
Speaker 1: now the Cowboys currently sit inside that top ten. But
Speaker 1: you don't want to bust. You want to have those
Speaker 1: specific needs to fill. But right now, what position do
Speaker 1: you feel comfortable taking in the top ten, mister Kavanaugh,
Speaker 1: Because right I know you said it. I think Dane's
Speaker 1: on this board. I think I'm on this board as well.
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of offensive guys you feel comfortable
Speaker 1: with in the top ten, but you need a defensive
Speaker 1: player that's going to be a game changer. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I think that's the problem because for me and I
Speaker 1: get a lot of pushback from a lot of Cowboy
Speaker 1: fans for this. I don't care what you need. I
Speaker 1: don't care. If I can make it line up with
Speaker 1: the board better and pick a guy, then that's okay.
Speaker 1: But if you're picking a defensive player because you need
Speaker 1: help on defense, you're failing at drafting and you're failing
Speaker 1: at building your team. If you're picking I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: pick a random number. If you're picking eighth and you're
Speaker 1: ten best players on your board or offense, but you
Speaker 1: reach because you have a position in need, I'll enjoy
Speaker 1: Taco Charlton. I know that's not in the top ten,
Speaker 1: but you have a top ten pick. You're supposed to
Speaker 1: pick the best football player because for a half decade
Speaker 1: he's going to be yours, and in the top ten,
Speaker 1: he's also going to make a lot of money in
Speaker 1: a salary cap league. You don't want to bust on
Speaker 1: a top ten pick. If my best player plays a
Speaker 1: position that I don't quote need, I'm gonna pick him anyway,
Speaker 1: and then I'll make my roster work around it. I'll trade.
Speaker 1: I'll go trade from a position of strength to another
Speaker 1: team to try to find a player. And we're going
Speaker 1: to start out names here, but like Michael Gallup for
Speaker 1: Juan Thornhill, who's become a rotational free safety in Kansas City.
Speaker 1: Here have one year of an upgraded Sammy Watkins. I'll
Speaker 1: take two years of an upgraded free safety for me
Speaker 1: because I don't have a free safety on the roster
Speaker 1: and Boom. I picked an offensive player in the first round.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a half decade pick that makes a
Speaker 1: lot of money when you're picking in the top ten.
Speaker 1: So to me, from the guys I've seen so far
Speaker 1: in this draft, with all due respect to Micah Parsons
Speaker 1: and Caleb Farley and Patrick Surtan, I am more confident
Speaker 1: that Piney Sewell, Rashaun Slater the Northwestern offensive tackle, Kyle
Speaker 1: Pitts the Florida tight end, Jamar Chase the LSU wide receiver,
Speaker 1: Davante Smith the Alabama wide receiver, and maybe let me
Speaker 1: know about his ankle, but Jaylen Waddle the Alabama wide receiver.
Speaker 1: I'm more convinced that I'm not missing with all of
Speaker 1: them than any defensive player in this draft. And so
Speaker 1: that's the unique challenge that I think teams are going
Speaker 1: to face. Because you need a corner, you need a
Speaker 1: defensive tackle, you need pass rush. I don't care. I'm
Speaker 1: not picking a worse player on purpose. Dan, Do you
Speaker 1: agree that's absolutely? I think that's it. It'd be very
Speaker 1: foolish to reach on a player in the top ten
Speaker 1: because of need. It's just it's not a wise way
Speaker 1: to build your roster you need to do. We talk
Speaker 1: so much about the game of football being a game
Speaker 1: of attrition. You know, the injuries happen guys, you know,
Speaker 1: the tal for players and they're effectiveness goes up and down.
Speaker 1: At this time last year, we weren't really talking about
Speaker 1: linebacker as a huge need for this team. But here
Speaker 1: we are a year later, and it sure looks like
Speaker 1: a need, and you just you never know. Now, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying they should draft a wide receiver, you know,
Speaker 1: with the way the current roster set up, but that
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you reach for a player that you're
Speaker 1: not high on. Now. Right now, they're picking at eight,
Speaker 1: and you know, I do think that Michael Parsons is
Speaker 1: in that range, and you have to decide, Okay, an
Speaker 1: off ball linebacker, can he give you enough where he's
Speaker 1: worth that selection. I'm a top ten pick. Are you
Speaker 1: going to use him enough as an edge rusher? Are
Speaker 1: you going to use him? I mean, you know, the
Speaker 1: snaps that he's going to play. Is the impact worth
Speaker 1: a top ten pick? I think absolutely they could come
Speaker 1: to that conclusion. Michael Parsons, you know, in one of
Speaker 1: these corners, Caleb Farley, you know, in most years is
Speaker 1: not going to be a top ten pick. He might
Speaker 1: not be a top ten pick this year. In this draft,
Speaker 1: he might be, and I you know, it's it makes
Speaker 1: it for a I don't necessarily think that Caleb Farley
Speaker 1: at eight would be a reach in this draft, just
Speaker 1: the way that the top you know, picks are are
Speaker 1: going to play out because we just don't have many
Speaker 1: quote unquote elite players. So um, you know, if they're
Speaker 1: in that eight to ten to twelve range when they draft,
Speaker 1: that's right in the range where Parsons in these corners
Speaker 1: are going to come off the board. So it's not
Speaker 1: I don't think it's exactly a reach there is it
Speaker 1: Maybe what you're hoping for, uh, you know, maybe not
Speaker 1: in normal drafts, but this is this is the draft,
Speaker 1: this is we have to be realistic here. So while
Speaker 1: I do agree that the best players in this draft
Speaker 1: are on the offensive side of the ball, where they're
Speaker 1: picking right now, I think is where you know, we're
Speaker 1: not a four anymore. We're picking at eight, and so
Speaker 1: that's when you start to think about Parsons or one
Speaker 1: of these corners. What would be the reaction this fan base, Jeff,
Speaker 1: whenever you go into I don't know if Roger Goodell
Speaker 1: is going to be on a stage or back in
Speaker 1: his basement in April, because none of us never really
Speaker 1: know what's going on, especially right now. But when he
Speaker 1: walks up and gets in front of the camera, he says,
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys with the blank overall picks select this offensive player.
Speaker 1: What do you think the reaction is going to be
Speaker 1: from a fan base, because you already said that you
Speaker 1: caught some flat from Cowboys fans about picking best player
Speaker 1: available and BPA has been something we've preached on this
Speaker 1: show for a couple of years now. But is that
Speaker 1: something that I think Cowboys fans would accept or is
Speaker 1: it something they'd be very frustrated in? Maybe it depends.
Speaker 1: I think you could probably sell to the fan base,
Speaker 1: for instance, Kyle Pitts the Florida tight end more than
Speaker 1: you could sell Jamar Chase or Davante Smith because they're receivers.
Speaker 1: Although I call Kyle Pitts a receiver too. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: just the fact that you call him a tight end,
Speaker 1: I think would change the way that maybe the fan
Speaker 1: base hood look at it. But you're gonna have a
Speaker 1: lot of people who are just gonna be like, no,
Speaker 1: this defense is bad. This defense is the problem. I
Speaker 1: can't believe they keep making selections to try to score
Speaker 1: more points when they can't stop anybody. And I get that,
Speaker 1: but that's why there's multiple avenues to improving your team,
Speaker 1: and the top ten, to me, is not one where
Speaker 1: you're flexible about that. Picking in the top ten, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna pick the best player. Then I'm gonna look at
Speaker 1: my roster. Then I'm going to figure out how to
Speaker 1: make the best team and help my defense. There's other
Speaker 1: rounds in the draft where I'm more willing to go need,
Speaker 1: just not the first one and definitely not in the
Speaker 1: top ten. So yeah, I think the fan I think
Speaker 1: a lot of the fan base would kind of freak
Speaker 1: out on you. Kind of they kind of freak out
Speaker 1: on you. But I mean, okay, we talk him off
Speaker 1: the ledge, we'll fix it. Make it okay, Dan, Jeff,
Speaker 1: if I told you that Rashaun Slater was the pick
Speaker 1: at eight, you're feeling good about that. Yeah, I'm fine
Speaker 1: with that because I think he's one of my Like
Speaker 1: right now, if you tell me I have a top
Speaker 1: eight pick, I have, Yeah, I have eight names. I
Speaker 1: have eight names that I feel great about in this
Speaker 1: draft class. And he's one of them, the eight, and
Speaker 1: he's got a little more go for a day. He's
Speaker 1: got a little more proven versatility than a Penney Stool
Speaker 1: where you know, we've we've been able to see him
Speaker 1: right side, left side. He's got he could play guard.
Speaker 1: Uh So he could come in and be uh to
Speaker 1: do a lot of things for that offensive line while
Speaker 1: still being the eventual left tackle whenever you know Tyrone
Speaker 1: is no longer on the roster. I think he's a
Speaker 1: better player than Penney sul whoa you have him above
Speaker 1: him on his board and not on your board. No, Okay,
Speaker 1: but he's But I think a better Stool is a
Speaker 1: better prospect, and Slater is a better player player. Micah
Speaker 1: Parsons is a better is a better prospect than Nick Bolton.
Speaker 1: Nick Bolton's a better player than Michael Parsons. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the way I see him. Okay, that's interesting. I think
Speaker 1: it we dig into and believe me, I think I
Speaker 1: think that one might that one might be spicy in people.
Speaker 1: I think Missouri's Nick Bolton is a better player today
Speaker 1: than Michael Parsons. I absolutely do. I kind of don't
Speaker 1: disagree with you. I like Nick Bolton alive. I've liked
Speaker 1: him since he was at Frisco Lone Star down the
Speaker 1: road playing his high school ball. I've always been a
Speaker 1: big fan of his. But I think there's always growth
Speaker 1: that we had on this specific topic players versus prospects,
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about that along down the road. But
Speaker 1: I think whenever it comes to offensive tackle, that would
Speaker 1: probably be the easiest sell for me if the Cowboys
Speaker 1: were in the top eight and they took an offensive tackle,
Speaker 1: especially if it's a slater or if it's a pin
Speaker 1: a soul if he somehow falls due to the opt
Speaker 1: out or something unforeseen at the moment. But if it's
Speaker 1: an offensive tackle, I feel much better about a pick
Speaker 1: in the top eight. Then maybe I would about a
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Kyle Pitts is on that borderline for me,
Speaker 1: because I think Kyle Pitts, along with Ceedee Lamb, Michael Gallup,
Speaker 1: and Amari Cooper would be unbelievable to look at whenever
Speaker 1: this offense gets back and healthy in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: But when we come back, you're on the Draft show.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about some twitter on the twenty
Speaker 1: and maybe we'll bring in a conversation about Micah Parsons
Speaker 1: and when's the best time to go with an off
Speaker 1: ball linebacker. We'll answer that next when we come back
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Speaker 1: second segment here of this edition of the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: dot Com Draft Show. It's episode four of the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one show. Kyle Yeoman's Dane Brugler along with Captain
Speaker 1: Trade Down aka Jeff Kavanaugh, Trade Down stick and pick
Speaker 1: trade up. It doesn't matter right now. We've got a
Speaker 1: long way to go until Captain what's his face can
Speaker 1: make his name be known April twenty twenty nine, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one. But let's go to uh, let's go to
Speaker 1: some twitter on the twenty shall We twittered on the
Speaker 1: twenty Chris being back in the back with the sounder
Speaker 1: as always, and we're gonna start things off from fanatic
Speaker 1: cowboy And this is the one I tas going into
Speaker 1: the break, gentlemen, But what is the best range for
Speaker 1: an off ball linebacker in this class? We'll start with
Speaker 1: mister Dane Brugler on this, And I mean we talked
Speaker 1: about Michael Parsons early on. Is there another off ball
Speaker 1: linebacker later in the draft, maybe a Nick Bolton that
Speaker 1: could potentially scoot their way into the first round. But
Speaker 1: what's the sweet spot for that position. I think it's
Speaker 1: pretty spread out. Like I don't I wouldn't call it
Speaker 1: a deep position this year. But you know, you have
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons who's probably gonna be a top twelve pick,
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Usu Koramoa who's probably going to be somewhere in
Speaker 1: the top twenty. Is Aven Collins some probably somewhere in
Speaker 1: the top twenty. Nick Bolton I think will be somewhere
Speaker 1: in the back half a round one, and only because
Speaker 1: I think a lot of teams won't be on board
Speaker 1: with the lack of length with Bolton. But could we
Speaker 1: see maybe a Chasserat out of North Carolina sneak into
Speaker 1: that top thirty, top forty conversation. Absolutely, So this is
Speaker 1: a draft where I don't think it's a very you know,
Speaker 1: deep position at linebacker, But every ten picks or so,
Speaker 1: there's another linebacker that's kind of worth it. You know,
Speaker 1: Baron Browning right there as a borderline top fifty guy
Speaker 1: out of Ohio State, Jabril Cox out of LSU. He's
Speaker 1: in that maybe back half a round two areas. So,
Speaker 1: now this is a it's a position where I think
Speaker 1: you're gonna have options. You don't have to take a
Speaker 1: guy early to get to get a linebacker. You can
Speaker 1: wait till the second round and still feel pretty good
Speaker 1: about your options. Jeff, I think that's I think that
Speaker 1: is what worries me about Micah Parsons. Where because Micah Parsons,
Speaker 1: excuse me, out of all those guys he's naming, obviously,
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons is the most freak show of an athlete.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that he wasn't a very good
Speaker 1: college players a very good college player, but I think
Speaker 1: me is watching him for NFL purposes. I watch him
Speaker 1: make some risky decisions like trying to shoot gaps that
Speaker 1: lead to missed plays and just trying to sort of
Speaker 1: hero ball it up, and he's not always immediately reading
Speaker 1: and reacting properly. And then you start watching there's guys
Speaker 1: that don't have his physical gifts and we do this,
Speaker 1: the teams have to do this at every position with
Speaker 1: every player. But you're weighing like, Okay, Micah parsons ceiling
Speaker 1: is way up there, somewhere beyond the roof Bobby Wedder. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but would you feel better picking a guy that you're
Speaker 1: much more comfortable with his floor? When you're talking about
Speaker 1: an off the ball linebacker forty picks later, I would
Speaker 1: And if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, But I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's just kind of where I am with Micah Parsons
Speaker 1: at this point. Is I kind of like a lot
Speaker 1: of those other guys. And if you told me I
Speaker 1: could pick my linebacker and the thirties or forties, that
Speaker 1: I feel better about the floor than I do with Parsons.
Speaker 1: I think that would be the range for me. I
Speaker 1: like that a lot, I really do. I think there's
Speaker 1: a lot of guy is in there. And I know
Speaker 1: we just named a bunch of guys, but Jabril Cox
Speaker 1: is in that conversation for me. Uh, Nick Bolton, we've
Speaker 1: already mentioned Dan. Can you say his name one more time?
Speaker 1: The the Notre Dame linebacker frecher junior Jeremiah woosu Koramoa. Okay,
Speaker 1: is that who? Actually, he just won the Butt Kiss
Speaker 1: Award for the College Football's top linebacker. So it'll be
Speaker 1: interesting talking or watching him, uh in the College Football
Speaker 1: Playoff semi final against Alabama, you know, against Naji Harris
Speaker 1: and everything that offense is going to throw at that defense.
Speaker 1: So Woosukoramoa is an explosive guy who is kind of
Speaker 1: like this year Isaiah Yes Zaiah Simmons from last year,
Speaker 1: who just the versatile jack of all trades. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: can play him as a blitzer, you can line them
Speaker 1: up in the slot, you can play him as a
Speaker 1: traditional offball overhang linebacker. You just do a lot of
Speaker 1: things with him, and that versatility is the key. You
Speaker 1: think he's Uh, where do you have him on your
Speaker 1: board right now? Do you have him up above like
Speaker 1: a chatter rot at the at the moment or where
Speaker 1: is he sitting at this time? Yeah, I think he's
Speaker 1: He's he's right positioned to be the second linebacker. I
Speaker 1: think him, Zaven Collins, they're they're kind of fighting out
Speaker 1: and I think Nick Bolton. I throw him in there
Speaker 1: as well as the linebackers fighting to be the second
Speaker 1: linebacker drafted. Gotcha there. I mean, there's a ton of
Speaker 1: guys there, and that's the that's the thing about this
Speaker 1: this position. Whenever it comes to linebackers, there's some top
Speaker 1: heavy names like the Micah Parsons of the world, but
Speaker 1: there's options later on. And that's kind of what Jeff
Speaker 1: was talking about a moment ago. Uh. Second question here,
Speaker 1: from the Star Vision. He says, who are the top
Speaker 1: five safeties in this draft? And he says he wants
Speaker 1: to pair somebody with Donovan Wilson, Jeff, who are your
Speaker 1: top five safeties? Oh man, I'm gonna preface this with
Speaker 1: I don't love the safety class. I don't love this
Speaker 1: class so far. So interestingly, the best guy I've seen
Speaker 1: I have no idea if he's going to be in
Speaker 1: the draft, and I'm told and Dane can take us
Speaker 1: down this road because Dane is the best in the
Speaker 1: country at this draft stuff. But my favorite guy that
Speaker 1: I've actually seen on tape was the twenty nineteen tape
Speaker 1: of the five eighth safety from TCU or Darius Washington,
Speaker 1: and I'm told that twenty twenty hasn't been going as
Speaker 1: well for him and that his teammate Trevan Merrig maybe
Speaker 1: the top safety in this class. I didn't love Merrick
Speaker 1: on the nineteen tape. So this is one of those
Speaker 1: things where it's December and I haven't seen twenty twenty
Speaker 1: stuff yet. But my favorite safeties that I've seen are
Speaker 1: actually Gillespie at Missouri and Niscyraldine at Florida State, and
Speaker 1: they're very different the Florida State is like six to
Speaker 1: four to twenty. He looks like Cam Chancellor. I don't
Speaker 1: know that he pairs with Donovan Wilson ideally because I
Speaker 1: don't think he's going to play center field, but he
Speaker 1: could play deep half. He can play down Javon Holland
Speaker 1: I don't love in Oregon. He's okay. Marrig his nineteen
Speaker 1: tape is okay. So I defer to Dane and say,
Speaker 1: tell me about the twenty twenty and what I'm gonna
Speaker 1: see from some of these guys. Jeff, let me ask
Speaker 1: you first, would you think of Andre Cisco out of Syracuse? Yeah,
Speaker 1: andre Cisco is a really popular name that I hear
Speaker 1: from Cowboy fans because of his thirteen career interceptions. I
Speaker 1: think he probably gave up twice as many touchdowns as
Speaker 1: he had interceptions. So I'm terrified of Andre Cisco. Like
Speaker 1: everybody's telling me he runs with four to three. I'm
Speaker 1: watching him misstackles in the open field and then not
Speaker 1: run down guys who don't run four threes. So I
Speaker 1: don't know if he runs a football four to three,
Speaker 1: and so like guys who catch them ball in front
Speaker 1: of him get around him. And beat him to the
Speaker 1: end zone. I think his awareness to cover deep as
Speaker 1: a free safety is not good. So I think he's
Speaker 1: a guy that has great stats and I'm told he's
Speaker 1: a great athlete, but on tape he's going to be
Speaker 1: one of the guys where I if you're talking about
Speaker 1: picking him in the top sixty, seventy eighty, I'll let
Speaker 1: somebody else do it. All right, Dane, where are you
Speaker 1: sitting at in this safety class? Well, I think that
Speaker 1: a lot of what would Jeff was saying, I agree
Speaker 1: with it's hard to love any of these guys. Morey
Speaker 1: got a TCU still as my top guy. I think
Speaker 1: when you look at his range, his ball skills, there's
Speaker 1: a lot that you can work with there. Javon Holland
Speaker 1: out of Oregon, he's kind of your prototypical big nickel
Speaker 1: safety type who I don't love as a first round pick.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I love him as a top forty pick.
Speaker 1: I think he's more of a mid second type of player.
Speaker 1: The interesting name here is Sean Waite out of Ohio State,
Speaker 1: and it's a it's a projection because this is a
Speaker 1: guy who played inside corner last year as a nickel
Speaker 1: moved him the outside corner this year, where I thought
Speaker 1: he would he would fit better because of his size,
Speaker 1: because of his ability to turn and run, and he
Speaker 1: just look lost as an outside corner. So now we
Speaker 1: have to figure out what to do with him. And
Speaker 1: he's a big athlete who can tackle, and you just
Speaker 1: have to figure out from a you know, read and
Speaker 1: react standpoint, can't he play off and be a safety,
Speaker 1: a guy that can play the nickel, that can you know,
Speaker 1: play single high, do what everything you want out of
Speaker 1: a Safety's that's what we have to figure out because
Speaker 1: Sean Wade, to me, is the interesting name in this
Speaker 1: discussion where his best position on the field might be
Speaker 1: lined up as that kind of versatile, do everything type
Speaker 1: of safety. Yeah, and I liked his tape in the
Speaker 1: slot as well. I think Sean Wade was better in
Speaker 1: the slot than he was by at any point this
Speaker 1: season on the outside. And I don't know, maybe we
Speaker 1: thought the move to the outside would have worked for Wade,
Speaker 1: but of course it didn't and he ended up having
Speaker 1: some issues out there. Maybe the move to safety does
Speaker 1: the same thing. That's what worries me about Sean Wade.
Speaker 1: But Nassiri Dean out of Florida State. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: a guy who's gonna be at the Senior Bowl, has
Speaker 1: already accepted as Senior Bowl invite, and I think that's
Speaker 1: gonna be one of the guys that I have circled
Speaker 1: all that week of who how does he stand up
Speaker 1: against some of these other players, some of these other
Speaker 1: these linebackers. And I know it's tough to kind of
Speaker 1: figure out or excuse me, safeties and we're talking safeties here,
Speaker 1: but it's kind of tough to figure out safeties at
Speaker 1: a Senior Bowl like that. We tried to do it
Speaker 1: last year with Kyle Dugger and things like that, but
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys that I have my eye on. Now.
Speaker 1: We're going to continue Twitter on the twenty, but we're
Speaker 1: gonna go to break because we need to get Jeff
Speaker 1: Kavanaugh back having some technical difficulties here, so on the
Speaker 1: other side of the break, will continue talking about some
Speaker 1: of these extra players and these needs for the Dallas Cowboys.
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Speaker 1: with Jeff Cavanaugh, but he is back on and everyone
Speaker 1: at home will be able to hear what Captain Treydown
Speaker 1: has to say. Kyle Yomen's Jeff Cavanaugh along with Dane Brugler,
Speaker 1: and you know, it is the giving season, it's the
Speaker 1: holiday season, and I want to give some names out
Speaker 1: in terms of guys that we can look at as
Speaker 1: some potentials down the road. And Dana, we're gonna start
Speaker 1: with you on this one, but I want to hear
Speaker 1: your early candidate for a pet cat, somebody who is
Speaker 1: on the back half of this draft board that could
Speaker 1: potentially rise then could could potentially find their way up
Speaker 1: into the early parts of the draft or somebody that
Speaker 1: you just already have fallen in love with. In terms
Speaker 1: of the back half of the twenty twenty one draft, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a few. Bulling Green's got a tight end Quentin Morris,
Speaker 1: who is not a well known name. He's a former
Speaker 1: wide receiver making the move to tight end. Bulkan up.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be that versatile HVAC. He's a really fun
Speaker 1: player who equipment Morris is if you're looking for a
Speaker 1: tight end somewhere in the mid rounds, I think he's
Speaker 1: the guy you need to look at. And then you
Speaker 1: know keeping a wide receiver, uh, you know this is
Speaker 1: another deep wide receiver group. I mean you could really
Speaker 1: point to a lot of names here that are highly,
Speaker 1: highly intriguing. Maury Rodgers at a Clemson is a guy
Speaker 1: that grows on me more and more every time I
Speaker 1: watch him. He's when you watch him on tape, it
Speaker 1: feels like your clicker has a rumble pack on it
Speaker 1: because you feel his hits, you feel the play strength.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of Deebo Samuel to a Mari Rodgers
Speaker 1: just with the way he plays. He's got that running
Speaker 1: back body after the catch. You know he lines up
Speaker 1: in the slot, but he can beat you horizontally vertically.
Speaker 1: If I'm the Jets of the Jaguars, whoever takes Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence with the first pick, Maury Rodgers would be the
Speaker 1: guy I'd be targeting and say the third round to
Speaker 1: pair of those guys back up, because he's just a
Speaker 1: really talented player who I don't think he's getting talked
Speaker 1: about enough. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he
Speaker 1: ends up being one of the first ten receivers drafted
Speaker 1: this year. Wow. So you okay, So Maury Rogers, do
Speaker 1: you have him over Justin Ross out of the Clemson
Speaker 1: wide receivers or is he is Justin Ross still above
Speaker 1: him on your board? Well, Justin Ross is a freak,
Speaker 1: and I don't honestly, he's not on my board right now,
Speaker 1: just because we have no idea what's going on with
Speaker 1: the medicals, very very serious neck issue, you know. So
Speaker 1: when he's finally cleared and he's part of this draft class,
Speaker 1: then we'll kind of cross that bridge. But you know
Speaker 1: it's Maury Rodgers is a guy that just the more
Speaker 1: you're watch him, the more you're just like, this guy
Speaker 1: just plays and he could play special teams. He can
Speaker 1: line up all over the formation that the program there
Speaker 1: loves him. So just a big fan of Maury Rogers
Speaker 1: and what he can do for you. Yeah, both those
Speaker 1: guys are stout players now. Jeff early candidate for pet
Speaker 1: cat here in December. I know it's way early, but
Speaker 1: who you got, Yeah, it's December, man. This is a
Speaker 1: Dane Brugler special. I guess one of the safeties I named.
Speaker 1: I guess I would go Tyree Gillespie because he's the
Speaker 1: name that I haven't heard much. So I'm in on
Speaker 1: a couple of Missouri defenders. Gillespie is one of them.
Speaker 1: And of course Nick, I mean Nick Bolton is of
Speaker 1: course my pet cat at the linebacker there. But their
Speaker 1: safety has zero career picks zero. And I'm sitting there
Speaker 1: watching him play free safety, and I'm watching him cover
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts and just I'm watching him and I'm like,
Speaker 1: that guy looks like a starting NFL safety. And I'm
Speaker 1: watching all the other guys that are considered better prospects,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't trust any of these guys,
Speaker 1: and I do trust the guy who has zero career picks.
Speaker 1: So that's the way the world works sometimes, So I'll
Speaker 1: go Tyree Gillespie, Missouri safety, you know, and Tyree Gillespie's
Speaker 1: a guy who I watched a little bit of because
Speaker 1: I was watching Bolton and I was watching one of
Speaker 1: the other Missouri safeties and bloods that has already accepted
Speaker 1: his Senior Bowl invite. But whenever it comes to Gillespie Dane,
Speaker 1: where does he sit where on your board? Because I
Speaker 1: think with Missouri there's a lot of these guys, like
Speaker 1: Jeff just said, that are pretty much they're the players,
Speaker 1: but not necessarily the prospects that you're looking at. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a big Gillespie fan. Nasarel Deane and then
Speaker 1: Gillespie the top two senior safeties for me this year.
Speaker 1: I think you guys think pretty similar in that regard Gillespie,
Speaker 1: He's just he's a guy that you know, his effort
Speaker 1: out there is fantastic, both on defense and special teams.
Speaker 1: He times his hits well, he'll separate man from ball
Speaker 1: the range that he shows his ability to see it
Speaker 1: and go. He's not overthinking things out there, and then
Speaker 1: he'll drive through his target as a tackler and as
Speaker 1: a blitzer. So he just the way he'll explode into contact.
Speaker 1: He gives as good as he gets. So Tyrede Gillespie
Speaker 1: a big face and in this draft, and you know,
Speaker 1: if he's if he's available, I don't know that he's
Speaker 1: gonna sneak into the top one hundred. So if he's
Speaker 1: available to me at the top half of the fourth round,
Speaker 1: that's an easy pick for me. Okay, So final question
Speaker 1: here before we run out of time because Derek's gonna
Speaker 1: come downstairs and kick us out of this podcast studio.
Speaker 1: But three most likely players to be drafted by the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Once again, Jeff, I know it's super early,
Speaker 1: and I know it's it's super super early, and you
Speaker 1: guys can say the same, same players, but we'll start
Speaker 1: with Dane. Top three players to be picked by the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys as we sit at this moment. First round, right,
Speaker 1: first round, guys, Yes, just to make it easy, we
Speaker 1: don't need to go later than draft, all right, you know.
Speaker 1: And I'll say three different positions just to keep it
Speaker 1: keep it spicy. Let's go with with Klea Farley, a
Speaker 1: Virginia tech corner who six two two five is gonna
Speaker 1: run a four four or his best football is still
Speaker 1: ahead of him. A big fan of Farley. Michael Parsons,
Speaker 1: the linebacker right of Penn State, who can give you
Speaker 1: rush help? Can you know he's the big time athlete?
Speaker 1: You know, you draft him top ten with the hopes
Speaker 1: that he becomes Bobby Wagner. And then for a third,
Speaker 1: let's say Kyle Pitts. Uh, you know, I know, it
Speaker 1: just seems like you're why not make a strength even
Speaker 1: more of a strength? You know? Why not? You know,
Speaker 1: add him because he can block like he's not He's
Speaker 1: not going to drive defenders off the ball, but he
Speaker 1: can get in the way. He can do his job,
Speaker 1: and so you can use him in line. But the
Speaker 1: reason you draft him that high is because what he
Speaker 1: can do down the field. If you got if you
Speaker 1: have your three receivers out there plus Pitts running down
Speaker 1: the scene, good luck for any defense trying to cover
Speaker 1: the team. Fifty Burger is alive. And well, all right, Jeff,
Speaker 1: who are your three guys? Why not? Well? I probably
Speaker 1: like Dane's three better than my three because I pretty
Speaker 1: much agree with his three. So all I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: is I'm gonna change out one. Okay, because I'm more
Speaker 1: interested in being right than giving you other names. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Micah Parsons. I'm gonna go Caleb Farley
Speaker 1: and instead of Pits. No, I'm either gonna go Rashaan
Speaker 1: Slater or I'm gonna go Patrick Certan. Pick one of them.
Speaker 1: I'll go Slate, I'll go Slater, Farley Parsons, Rashawn Slater
Speaker 1: offensive line, linebacker, corner. Okay, I'm interested. I know we're
Speaker 1: out of time, but I'm gonna ask this anyways because
Speaker 1: I can do this. But whenever it comes to Certain
Speaker 1: and Farley, I know there's still a long way to go.
Speaker 1: But we talked about this in the break. But why
Speaker 1: do you guys both have Farley over Certain Because I
Speaker 1: know a lot of people haven't flip flop the other way,
Speaker 1: including myself. I like Certain better than Farley right now,
Speaker 1: but I want to know why you guys have Farley
Speaker 1: on top. The more I see of Curtan, the more
Speaker 1: what I don't trust him to do is be a
Speaker 1: guy that's going to shadow a team's number one wide receiver,
Speaker 1: and I think Caleb Farley absolutely has a chance to
Speaker 1: be that guy. I think Caleb Farley's athleticism gives him
Speaker 1: an opportunity for you to say, hey, this week we
Speaker 1: are playing against I'm just trying to think of random
Speaker 1: teams and their number one receivers. Hey we got Tyree Hill.
Speaker 1: Good luck, guys. I think Farley's got a chance and
Speaker 1: Curtain's dead in the water, and then next week if
Speaker 1: it's a big receiver, no problem. I think Curtan is
Speaker 1: probably more scheme and matchup dependent, and the more I've
Speaker 1: seen of him, the more I actually do see him
Speaker 1: getting called for some pi's as well. So I like
Speaker 1: Curtain as being a starting NFL cornerback for a long time.
Speaker 1: I like Farley's potential to be a star. Dan, do
Speaker 1: you agree that the potential to be a star for
Speaker 1: Farley is much better and much higher than Patrick Certain
Speaker 1: and then also the penalties being an issue for Certain
Speaker 1: out there? Yeah, I mean I do, And I mean
Speaker 1: look with Certain, you have a guy that's very polished,
Speaker 1: he does a nice job staying in phase, and he's smooth, instinctive.
Speaker 1: The game seems to slow down for him a little
Speaker 1: bit at the corner position. I just want a more
Speaker 1: sudden player, and that's what it comes down to for me.
Speaker 1: That's the difference is you know, with Farley, you got
Speaker 1: guy with a little more juice his ability. He also
Speaker 1: has instincts, He also has, you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: the things that you look for at the corner, but
Speaker 1: his reaction skills and the movements are what really shine.
Speaker 1: And so the ceiling I think is much higher for
Speaker 1: Certan over Certain for Farley, and that's why he's my
Speaker 1: number one corner at this moment. I think the opt
Speaker 1: out scares me with Farley, and maybe that's the case,
Speaker 1: but I like what I've seen from the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: tape of of Certain more so than what I liked
Speaker 1: from twenty nineteen Farley. But a man I really wish
Speaker 1: Farley would have had at twenty twenty. I feel like
Speaker 1: I would feel much differently if if Farley had had
Speaker 1: a twenty twenty season to go off of. But this
Speaker 1: will be a debate that continues to Ray John, I
Speaker 1: may even ask this on the with the other group
Speaker 1: of guys and see how they fare with with the
Speaker 1: both of them and where they stand right now before
Speaker 1: we really get into the rest of this draft process.
Speaker 1: But that's gonna do it here for us. On the
Speaker 1: Draft show by the way I joked about Derek hopping
Speaker 1: down and kicking us out, he legitimately just walked into
Speaker 1: the studio and set his stuff down. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: kind of do have to get out of here now
Speaker 1: at this point. But that'll do it, Jeff says. Hi.
Speaker 1: So for Katie unfortunately not with us, he'll be back
Speaker 1: after the turn of the new year. But for Dan Brugler,
Speaker 1: for Jeff kavanaughm Kyle Yeoman saying so long, thanks for
Speaker 1: joining us here on the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show.
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