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Speaker 2: Well, we made it to a Friday. It's a meat Friday,

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Speaker 2: but our chef is down for the count. Dylan got

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Speaker 2: hurt yesterday afternoon playing pickleball and once again not having

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Speaker 2: up ankle so much so he didn't even tell me

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Speaker 2: what the menu is. I don't know what we're having

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Speaker 2: for meat Friday right now, but Dylan is here, as

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Speaker 2: he said, Hey, I'm at least here to try to

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Speaker 2: put on this Friday meal. I don't know what we're having.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't have the energy to I guess write that

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Speaker 2: down or type that up, so I can't have you

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Speaker 2: live vicariously through us. I'm not quite sure what we're having.

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Speaker 2: But yes, yes, yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 3: I was told we're having Lambergers in chicken slovaki. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So who's got it better than we do? Oh boy?

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Speaker 2: Well, he doesn't know if he can go all the

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Speaker 2: way through and make the meal. So now you got Tyler.

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Speaker 2: Tyler used to do the job, so now he's bringing

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Speaker 2: Tyler in. There's a little bit of friction because Tyler

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Speaker 2: lost his job to Dylan and then weeks our cameraman

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Speaker 2: is helping out in the kitchen. It's kind of a

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Speaker 2: mess right now. Normally Meet Friday is a great day,

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Speaker 2: a great moment for us. But it feels like there's

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Speaker 2: some tension in the room. Yes, Tom Tyler's spinning a

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Speaker 2: spatchel around.

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Speaker 3: Is that like warming up in the bullpen.

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Speaker 2: He's got like different cooking equipment that he's just kind

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Speaker 2: of flipping around back there.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Todd.

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Speaker 2: football ish last night, and depending on your viewpoint here,

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Speaker 2: if you're a Lions fan, then you probably go, yeah,

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Speaker 2: what's preseason? It doesn't really matter. If you're a Chargers fan,

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Speaker 2: you go look pretty good last night? Yeah, I'm thinking

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Speaker 2: AFC title game. We're running the football there. That's Jim

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Speaker 2: Harball football. That's what it is right there. Trey Lance

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Speaker 2: looked pretty good last night. And if you're a Charger fan, okay,

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Speaker 2: you got.

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Speaker 3: To be happy.

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Speaker 2: But it's interesting how you can have an approach where

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Speaker 2: the game doesn't mean anything, or the game means a

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Speaker 2: little bit more than it's supposed to. That's preseason football,

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Speaker 2: and preseason football isn't pretty because it's a prime example

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Speaker 2: of hey, let's just get out there and let's take

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Speaker 2: our organized scrimmage and just put it on national TV

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Speaker 2: and you'll be able to see warts and all kind

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Speaker 2: of what's going on. Preseason a series of glorified tune ups,

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Speaker 2: but it's still entertaining, and you know, you're trying to

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Speaker 2: watch a little bit and just kind of gather, all right,

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Speaker 2: what's this mean or who's that player. Sometimes it's just

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Speaker 2: a vibe. You know, you're watching Dan. You know, these

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Speaker 2: are two of the more animated coaches, with Jim Harbaugh

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Speaker 2: and Dan Campbell. And then it's the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 2: weekend and you're celebrating all those players. We're going in

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Speaker 2: players who come back for that. Brett Mussberger was in

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Speaker 2: the booth last night, and you end up telling stories

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Speaker 2: more than showcasing the game.

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Speaker 3: But it was fun.

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Speaker 2: But football is here. We have turned the page. We're

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Speaker 2: in the month of August, and it's a full speed ahead,

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Speaker 2: except for the commanders with Terry McLaurin, because now he's

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Speaker 2: requested a trade and you start to these things normally

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Speaker 2: you're Terry McLaurin, the point of no return because he

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Speaker 2: wants to be paid more than thirty million dollars. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if it's thirty two, thirty three million dollars.

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Speaker 2: He's a big reason why Jayden Daniels played so well

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Speaker 2: last year. And you brought in Deebo Samuel, But Deebo

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Speaker 2: Samuel is not Deebo Samuel anymore, and he's not the

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Speaker 2: kind of receiver that Terry McLaurin is Terry McLaurin. If

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Speaker 2: you throw it in his area, he's going to get

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Speaker 2: it contested catches. He was number one in the NFL

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Speaker 2: the last five years. This is what you need with

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Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels going into a second year. You got momentum,

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Speaker 2: you got the defending Super Bowl champs in your division.

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Speaker 2: And this is that hold up. This is that hiccup.

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Speaker 2: This is something that could derail bigger dreams that they have.

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Speaker 2: But Terry McLaurin is requested a trade from the Commanders,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know if this heats things up or

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Speaker 2: the Commanders actually go all right. But here's the problem.

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Speaker 2: If I'm a Commander's fan, You're not going to get

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Speaker 2: dollar for dollar for Terry McLaurin. You're going to get

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Speaker 2: draft picks because if you're trading Terry McLaurin to a team,

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Speaker 2: you're probably trading him to a team that is a

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Speaker 2: playoff team that might go, hey, you know, the Chargers

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Speaker 2: are a name that came up. The forty nine Ers

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Speaker 2: are a name that came up. The Patriots a name

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Speaker 2: that came up. I mean, there's going to be teams

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Speaker 2: that will be waiting and seeing what would it cost

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Speaker 2: to get Terry McLaurin. You still have to pay him,

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Speaker 2: but you're going to get a guy who's going to

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Speaker 2: sign a new contract with you and you'd have him

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Speaker 2: probably for the next four years. He probably looks around

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Speaker 2: and goes, Okay, Courtland Sutton signed four years ninety two million, Well,

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Speaker 2: i'm better than him, or the same age. Brandon Ayuk

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Speaker 2: got thirty million dollars. I'm better than him. He's not

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Speaker 2: better than Sam. Like now, you have to take inventory

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Speaker 2: and you have to be honest with yourself. Your agent

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Speaker 2: don't think you're there. You're not in justin Jefferson Jamar

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Speaker 2: Chase category. Now are you the next level?

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Speaker 3: Maybe?

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Speaker 2: And what is commensurate to you your production, your output?

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Speaker 2: But that's I mean, that's a really really important situation here.

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Speaker 2: Now you got the Bengals with Trey Hendrickson. He's still

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Speaker 2: on the outside, but at least he's in camp. Terry McLaurin,

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Speaker 2: when you say, hey, trade me, that's a little bit different. Now.

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Speaker 2: You know, once again this comes down to war words, leverage,

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Speaker 2: and they could wrap this up. You know, probably in

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Speaker 2: I'll surrender that next thing. You know, Terry mclaurin's in camp.

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Speaker 3: But you know the potential for disaster here.

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Speaker 2: Loom's pretty big because Jayden Daniels, you want him to

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Speaker 3: Second year we see quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes they take a little bit of a dip, and

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Speaker 2: I would love to keep that momentum the best I

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Speaker 2: can if I'm the commanders. And sometimes it's a couple

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Speaker 2: of million dollars. And this goes back to what I've

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Speaker 2: said about the Cowboys situation with MIKEAH Parsons. You're probably

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Speaker 2: going to be spending eight million dollars more than you

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Speaker 2: have gotten him for maybe thirty four million dollars. Now

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Speaker 2: it's probably going to be forty two. Well, this is

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Speaker 2: where you lose a couple of players. A couple of

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Speaker 2: It was a couple of million dollars with Derrick Henry,

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Speaker 2: and I go back to that, a couple of million

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Speaker 2: dollars you could have had Derick Henry who wanted to

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Speaker 2: play for the Cowboys. Is from Dallas, wanted to play

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Speaker 2: for you, but a couple of million dollars. But Trey Hendrickson,

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Speaker 2: Terry McLaurin, my parsons, I think all of them get done.

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Speaker 2: But it's only because I've been doing this for a

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Speaker 2: so they don't get fined. But it was football last

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Speaker 2: night and it was still fun. And you know, great

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame weekend coming up there in Canton, Ohio.

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Speaker 2: Trade deadline Boy the art is formally known as the

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Speaker 2: Minnesota Twins. I would think program sales will probably be

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Speaker 2: pretty high for the Twins fans because I think they

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Speaker 2: traded nine players over the past couple of weeks. So

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Speaker 2: nine of twenty six players on their major league rosters

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Speaker 2: were traded during the trade deadline period. Seven of them

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Speaker 2: were traded yesterday. Now, if I'm a fan of the Twins,

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Speaker 2: if I know and I can trust the front office

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Speaker 2: that in three years from now, we might look back

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Speaker 2: on this and say, hey man, that was the turning plain.

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Speaker 2: Look at the players we got or the draft picks

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Speaker 2: we got and I don't know how many teams can

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Speaker 2: sign up for the Miami Marlins blueprint because they won

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Speaker 2: two World Series titles, and it felt like every five years,

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Speaker 2: here they are, and then they take the wrecking ball

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Speaker 3: You have to have.

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Speaker 2: Extreme confidence in your front office to be able to

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Speaker 2: do that. But Minnesota Twins traded nine of twenty six

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Speaker 2: players on their major league roster. All right, eight seven

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Speaker 2: poll question, play of the day, stat of the day,

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Speaker 3: Seatan poll question for the first hour.

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Speaker 2: Lewis Riddick of the Mothership will join us, get his

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Speaker 2: thoughts on these holdout situations or hold in situations.

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Speaker 3: Seatan, what do you have? Well, we just got one

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Speaker 3: here from Paul.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: What's in worse shape? Raised cart, Dylan's ankle or Todd? Hmm? Wow? Okay, Todd,

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Speaker 3: are you in bad shape? That could be a lot better?

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Speaker 2: Shit, Okay, raised car is going to get fixed because

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Speaker 2: Ty rack will take care of that. Dylan will eventually

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Speaker 2: get healthier, and then he'll get I mean, I don't

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Speaker 2: want to set the bar. No, No, his ankle will

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Speaker 2: get healthier. Will it ever be this hi again? Really,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. But he has to get the Tyrol

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Speaker 2: pickleball shoes. That'll help. But and and Todd takes his

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Speaker 2: daily I'm not going to pick on Todd today, bump.

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Speaker 3: Is that breaking news? That would be extremely breaking news.

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Speaker 3: I'm taking the under on that one if.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Now, I've been told, I've been told sources close

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Speaker 2: to me that Todd is going to take his shot

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Speaker 2: at me in a song coming up a little bit

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Speaker 2: later on kind of was a.

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Speaker 3: Shot at you? Per se, It's a shot at something.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you got your Haul and Oates t shirt on,

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Speaker 2: I do send it a message? Yes, yeah, once again,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna take a shot at me.

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Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, I guess. I'm going to wait for

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Speaker 3: you to fire first.

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Speaker 2: Once again. I don't start him, I end him. Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's a good attitude. You come in piece, you leave

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Speaker 2: in pieces.

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Speaker 3: Wow, what's the chot that sounds like a pumper sticker?

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Speaker 3: Is it a movie?

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Speaker 2: It's it's a line from J Billis. He was in

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Speaker 2: made something up here? Bisa waite, are you taking a

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be really sensitive. Okay, yes, Paul.

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Speaker 1: I have I have that line I come in piece

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Speaker 1: you go in pieces from a show called Dark Angel, which.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, and was Jay Billis on Dark Angel.

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Speaker 2: Yes, thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't know if that's the stat of

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Speaker 3: the day. Marvin J. Billis was on Dark Angel. But

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Speaker 3: did Dolph Lungren have the line? Off Lungdren, let's go,

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Speaker 3: this just got even better. He's in the scene.

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Speaker 2: Okay, maybe it's Dolph Lungren says it to Jay Billis,

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Speaker 3: You come in, piece you leave in pieces. Yes, time

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Speaker 5: She wasn't a show called Dark Angel, Jessica Helvot, that's Bundy.

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Speaker 3: Another thing on the cover of TV Guide.

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Speaker 3: She cashed out, thank you to what other poll question

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Speaker 5: Did we go with Terry McLaurin, You trade him or

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Speaker 3: You can? I mean we can if you're a commander,

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Speaker 3: I gotta I gotta pay him.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here's another topic and we will have to have

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Speaker 3: Come on, you really need three million?

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Speaker 2: You know? So that I think that that that's the

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Speaker 2: Settle on a poll question. Lewis Riddick of the Mothership.

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Speaker 2: He's a ESPN, NFL and college football analyst and worked

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Speaker 2: in the front office of the Commanders and the Eagles

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Speaker 2: former NFL safety. Good to see you again. Let me

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Speaker 2: start with Washington with Terry McLaurin. He's requested a trade. Now,

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Speaker 3: What's that mean to you?

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Speaker 5: It's basically the same thing to me, you know, in

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Speaker 5: then just trade me. If you really, if we're really

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Speaker 5: they're saying, Look, that's ridiculous, We're not going to do that.

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Speaker 5: You know, they're probably they're thinking, look, we still hold

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Speaker 5: this year and it's at the current salary, franchise him

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Speaker 5: for twenty twenty six and then you know, let him

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Speaker 5: be a free agent, ask that there's a lot of

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Speaker 7: And he knows that.

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Speaker 5: And then really the only recourse that you have as

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Speaker 5: a player, Dan, as you know, is the the only

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Speaker 7: So or asked to be moved somewhere else.

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Speaker 5: And you know, whether he's saying, look, I'm requesting a trade,

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Speaker 5: demanding a trade, obviously he's ticked off because him and

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Speaker 5: his agent, Buddy Baker, obviously see his value going forward

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Speaker 5: as much different and objectively based upon how he played

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Speaker 2: Okay, but let's look at it the what is reasonable

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Speaker 2: want to re sign him. He's better than Brandon Ayuk

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Speaker 7: I think I think you just said the magic number.

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Speaker 5: I think thirty million is the magic number for me

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Speaker 7: Is where this needs to be realistically.

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Speaker 5: And I think that's the area where I would be

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Speaker 7: I'm good with this.

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Speaker 5: And that's me trying to like remove the emotion of

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Speaker 5: what he has done in the past he has earned it.

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Speaker 5: He has earned Look, he's earned every penny that he

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Speaker 5: But from a strictly business sets, I'd be comfortable with

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Speaker 2: But do front offices pay you on what you've done

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Speaker 2: you're thirty years of age, Now what are you We're

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Speaker 5: I say this all the time. The contracts are about

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Speaker 5: future performance projection. I say that like almost annoyingly so

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Speaker 3: And and I'm with you.

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Speaker 5: Look, but I also am someone who doesn't believe that

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Speaker 7: And that's not true. It's just not true.

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Speaker 5: I think you have to take every one of these

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Speaker 5: And I think with everything that I've heard is that

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Speaker 5: And yeah, you know what, there are also people who

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Speaker 7: They really are.

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Speaker 5: People are like, hey, Washington, Adam Peters should make his

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Speaker 5: stand and Terry should just play out the deal because

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Speaker 5: he is going to be thirty and he's not a

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Speaker 5: And then there's people who go, have you looked at

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Speaker 5: touchdown receptions last year. Have you looked at the number

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00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 5: of first downs he produced last year, which was up

434
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 5: there with the elite players in the league. Have you

435
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 5: looked at how strong he is at the catch one,

436
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 5: the number of contested catches he made in the time,

437
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 5: and the number of first downs he.

438
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Speaker 7: Produced, Well, why wouldn't you project that that's going to

439
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:19,640
Speaker 7: get better this year?

440
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,360
Speaker 5: As Jayden gets better, the run game gets better. They're

441
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 5: in year two of this program. I would be comfortable

442
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 5: projecting his production to stay right where it is, if

443
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 5: not improving, based on all those factors. But you know,

444
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,400
Speaker 5: we have this tendency to want to say, well, he's

445
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 5: thirty years old and that there's no way he can

446
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,120
Speaker 5: get better, just like saying the same thing about quarterbacks

447
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 5: that the year or two Jinxes is coming and that

448
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 5: Jayden won't get better. I think everything is trending the

449
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 5: right way in Washington. I hope they're able to land

450
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 5: somewhere in that low thirty range or maybe right around

451
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 5: thirty and Terry can get in there, because this could

452
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 5: be very, very very disruptive to this offense if it's

453
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 5: one of these things that gets extended into the regular season.

454
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 2: I'm talking to Lewis Riddick of the Mothership. Would you

455
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 2: rather pay Dk metcalf or Terry McLaurin.

456
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 5: It's a great question. I would probably at this point

457
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 5: I would I would rather pay Terry simply because of

458
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 5: the person and the player, and how much I trust

459
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 5: the player, and how much I know that the effect

460
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 5: that he has on the football team.

461
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 3: From a.

462
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 5: Just from from a cultural standpoint, and I know this

463
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 5: going back to his days at Ohio State. I love

464
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 5: I love this dude when he came out and he

465
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 5: was someone who was kind of like severely overlooked, and

466
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 5: I think he's still being overlooked and a little bit

467
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 5: disrespected now. But see what people fall in love with

468
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 5: is the fact that DK is huge. He's an absolute freak,

469
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 5: he's fast, he has a flair for the dramatic. I

470
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 5: just want to steady, consistent producer that if you know what,

471
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 5: if you've ramped up mclaurin's targets to the degree, like

472
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 5: say like a Jamar Chaser justin Jefferson, you'd see the

473
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 5: kind of production that you just couldn't deny. But then

474
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 5: there's this there's this aesthetic, you know, part of this

475
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 5: thing where you sit there and go But he's not six'

476
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 5: four and he's not two, fifteen he doesn't run four.

477
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 5: Two we'll get off of that and just look at

478
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 5: the game and watch him play and what he. Means

479
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 5: The Jayden, DANIELS i think that's all you need to.

480
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 3: See what do you look for in a preseason?

481
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 5: Game, Yeah i'm a little bit of a geek. MAN

482
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,120
Speaker 5: i LIKE i love watching all the second and third round.

483
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 5: PLAYERS i like you know WHAT i like. SEEING i

484
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 5: mean second and, third, second, third, fourth fifth round guys

485
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 5: who are really just fighting to kind of make a.

486
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 5: Team WHEN i look FOR i look for the uncovered.

487
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 5: GEMS i look for execution amongst the guys who you

488
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 5: know are going to be on the football team regardless

489
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 5: of the level competition they're playing.

490
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 2: Against, okay but what did you see From Trey lance last?

491
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 8: Night?

492
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 5: Exactly that's my. Point that's just WHAT i was going

493
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 5: to get. To it's about execution For. Trey it's about

494
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 5: the comfort level For. Trey it's about the timing that

495
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 5: he played, with the accuracy that he played, with the

496
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 5: fact that he played with his shoulders back and he

497
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 5: was kind of had his head up and he was

498
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 5: like he was feeling. Good he never has looked like.

499
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 5: That he's never looked like that in his. CAREER i

500
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 5: don't care if it was against The lions And canton

501
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 5: at A hall Of fame. Game Jim harball is having

502
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 5: some kind of effect on this young, man and he

503
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 5: has finally hit his. Stride after being so green coming

504
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 5: out of college with such little, Playtime he's finally hit his.

505
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 5: Stride AND i think we know, this and you know

506
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 5: this for. Sure, man we have seen in the recent

507
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 5: past how much quarterback development is not a set thing

508
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 5: in terms of its. Timing you have to be willing

509
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 5: to be more patient now THAN i think you've ever,

510
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 5: been simply because the variance between organizations and programs is so.

511
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 5: Great you just don't. Know you just don't know how

512
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 5: guys are gonna gael from one place to the. NEXT

513
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 5: i know it's only one, game But i'll tell you.

514
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 5: What in all my time of Watching Trey, lance AND

515
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 5: i was a huge supporter Of Trey, lance AND i felt, Like,

516
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 5: man DID i really just blow that and get that?

517
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 5: WRONG i saw something last Night i'd never seen. Before

518
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 5: i'm hoping he can and he sticks there and eventually

519
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 5: he gets his.

520
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 3: Shot BUT i don't think we're patient at.

521
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 2: ALL i think we're less patient because it used to

522
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 2: be you could be a number one pick and sit

523
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 2: for a couple of. Years, SURE i mean it doesn't

524
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 2: happen like. That It's, hey did you see WHAT. Cj

525
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: stroud did his?

526
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 3: Rookie?

527
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 2: Hear, hey did you see What Jayden daniels did his rookie?

528
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 2: Here Drake, may why can't all these quarterbacks be the same.

529
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 3: RIGHT i mean it's.

530
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 2: Quick we get you, in you, know into the washing,

531
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 2: machine and all of a sudden you come.

532
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 3: Out how do you? Smell if, Not i'm going to

533
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 3: put you back. In we'll move.

534
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 2: On you, know it doesn't take long for these teams

535
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 2: to go we tried you for a year or two.

536
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 2: Years now we're going to go try to find our quarterback.

537
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 5: Again, yeah you, know, Ironically Chris beller was just talking

538
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 5: about this and in regards To Anthony richardson about the

539
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 5: fact that he has seen and he knows. IT i,

540
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 5: know gms are talking about. It he's, seen you know,

541
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 5: recently when you're looking at guys Like Baker mayfield and

542
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 5: how it took a little, bit you know for him

543
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 5: to kind of finally hit his, Stride Sam darnold and

544
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 5: the kind of year.

545
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 7: That he had last. Year he has seen.

546
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,479
Speaker 5: That, hey, look we need to be maybe we need

547
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 5: to rethink the amount of time that we give these,

548
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 5: guys regardless of where of where we drafted them and

549
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 5: what our initial expectations, are because everyone's just. Different the problem, Is,

550
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 5: look owners are, impatient fans are. Impatient we're just living

551
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 5: in an impatient world where we just want instant gratification right. Now,

552
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 5: hell we have rookie quarterbacks in camp right now who

553
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 5: after one week they have a one bad period and

554
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 5: we're going bust get him out of, there get the

555
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 5: next guy in. There WE i, mean and we, Know,

556
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 5: look we've just seen cases where guys finally found their

557
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 5: found their right fit and then they finally take Off

558
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 5: Gino smith another.

559
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 7: One but we don't. Care we don't care about. That we're,

560
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 7: LIKE i don't. CARE i don't want to wait that.

561
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 7: Long either this.

562
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 5: Guy shows me right away out the, gate or we're

563
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 5: moving on to the next. Guy it's it's an interesting

564
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 5: it's an interesting. Case BUT i think With Trey, lance

565
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 5: he's probably going to be the next one that it'll

566
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 5: be interesting to see if he can continue on with

567
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,479
Speaker 5: this kind of momentum and whether or not he ultimately

568
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 5: gets a shot to play somewhere else and actually play

569
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 5: a lot of. Football because IN la he ain't playing

570
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 5: ahead Of Justin.

571
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 3: Herbert well he's not only twenty five.

572
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: EXACTLY i mean that guys don't even really come into

573
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: their prime and now because they're coming in, young you,

574
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 2: Know Anthony richardson twenty years of. AGE i, mean you

575
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 2: either know or. YOU i think you either know right

576
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 2: away that somebody can or can't. PLAY i think you

577
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 2: can see how they, prepare work, ethic, LEADERSHIP i mean

578
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 2: all of that. Stuff BUT i still go back To

579
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: Trey lance AND i go not enough sample size with.

580
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 2: Games so he gave me one miracle season At North Dakota.

581
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 3: STATE i need. More it's Like Zach.

582
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 2: WILSON i need more because Bo knicks gave me Fifty

583
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 2: Jayden daniels gave me sixty starts in. College but NOW

584
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 2: i know WHAT i. Have at LEAST i have a

585
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: better understanding of WHAT i. Have Mitchell trubisky was really

586
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: one good year in. College those guys scare. Me Anthony

587
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: richardson wasn't even a, starter consistent. Starter he showed, flashes

588
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: but it wasn't enough for me to. Go he's a

589
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: top five.

590
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 7: Pick, Yeah and that's.

591
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 5: See that's the balance and the internal both individually and

592
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 5: organizationally fight that every team has every year when you're

593
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 5: talking about players who are supremely gifted who may not

594
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,239
Speaker 5: have the resume that you're talking, about versus players who

595
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 5: have great, production a long history or a much longer

596
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 5: history of, production but name may not be as.

597
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:49,719
Speaker 7: Gifted which way do they?

598
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 5: Lean and a lot of times because OF i, mean

599
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 5: let's just be, honest because of the let's, say the

600
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 5: ego of people in THE, nfl and we all have.

601
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 5: It they, believe you know, WHAT i can make this

602
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 5: guy into exactly WHAT i want, him because just look

603
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 5: at these. Traits, damn you gotta have these. TRAITS i

604
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 5: don't want this guy who's a little bit lesser of an,

605
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 5: athlete a little bit lesser of a, player.

606
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 7: Who may be topped.

607
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 5: Out they always talk, about you, know you always have

608
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 5: these conversations about what is ultimately the ceiling of this.

609
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 5: Player this guy's ceiling so much, higher and with our

610
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 5: great genius coaching and, development we're.

611
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 7: Gonna get it out of. Him we're gonna develop the

612
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 7: Next hall Of. Famer and that's the risk that you.

613
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 5: Take like With anthony in, Particular, look everybody In indianapolis,

614
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 5: knows and he knows himself that the biggest thing Holding

615
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 5: Anthony richardson back Was Anthony, richardson and it was it

616
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 5: was the. Thing AND i wanted to jump in and

617
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 5: say this while you were, talking BUT i didn't want

618
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 5: to interrupt. You but the biggest thing with him is

619
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 5: the maturity, factor the football character, factor the commitment factor

620
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 5: about it being constant and consistent and constantly trending the

621
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 5: way it needs. To because if he can get, that

622
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 5: and he is fighting an uphill battle, now especially what

623
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 5: happened with him down In, houston he's fighting that that

624
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 5: that image is burned into some people's brains for, eternity

625
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 5: and no matter what he, does they're never going to

626
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 5: feel as though he has the has what it takes

627
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 5: to be a franchise. Quarterback but that's what he's fighting

628
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 5: now because from an athletic standpoint and a trade, standpoint

629
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 5: you've already seen him In indianapolis make throws.

630
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 7: That nobody can make in the. League that's that battle

631
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 7: all the.

632
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 5: Time and with Bow, knicks how many people killed Bow

633
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 5: knicks coming out in the draft last year and, said

634
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 5: Son payton doesn't know what he's. Doing what's he doing

635
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 5: with this? Guy doesn't have any? Upside this guy's he's

636
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 5: Got and now Now Sawn peyton's going see. See so,

637
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 5: yeah it's a fascinating thing that front offices go through every.

638
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: YEAR i was thinking about this with THE Afc west

639
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 2: that you Got Andy Reid hall Of Famer Pete, carroll

640
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: Maybe hall Of Famer, Borderline Sean, payton Maybe hall Of

641
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: Fame Jim, harball hall Of fame caliber coach With college En.

642
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 2: Pro AND i was, thinking have we had a vision

643
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: that's had Four hall Of fame like coaches at the same.

644
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 2: Time AND i thought about The giants With, Parcells washington

645
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 2: With Joe. GIBB i don't know if they were all

646
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 2: there at the same, time but let's SAY i Add Jimmy,

647
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: Johnson Bill, Parcells dick For meal with The, eagles And Joe.

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Speaker 3: Long how would you rank? Them So Andy? Reid Andy

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Speaker 5: look there there are people who will who will debate

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Speaker 7: Weaknesses but he's one of the Best i've ever seen.

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Speaker 5: To Sean. Payton you sitdn't talk To Sean payton about.

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Speaker 5: he has built teams in conjunction with the gms he's

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Speaker 5: worked with over the, years and what he's doing In, Denver,

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Speaker 5: Denver denver's gonna be right. There denver's gonna Give Kansas

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Speaker 5: city every single thing they can handle this.

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Speaker 3: Year.

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Speaker 5: Everything they, have a championship caliber, defense a championship caliber offensive.

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Speaker 5: Line it's gonna be whether the quarterback can take another big.

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Speaker 5: got a coaching. Staff they're gonna be for real in two.

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Speaker 2: Weeks i'll have you back and you give me Your

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Speaker 2: Super bowl pick, Deal i'll give it to. You thank, you,

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Speaker 2: man have a good, weekend And Lewis riddick of The

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Speaker 8: Wall Goodbye. Baseball more history for Cal, raleigh his forty

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Speaker 8: History that's courtesy of The Mariners radio.

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Speaker 2: Network Cal rawley is forty second home run of the

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Speaker 2: runs by a switch hitting catcher of His Todd hunting

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Speaker 2: forty one in nineteen ninety Six play of The.

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Speaker 3: Day mariners are all. IN i love. IT i love.

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Speaker 3: Passion.

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Speaker 2: YEAH a couple of teams they went all, in all

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Speaker 2: in for next year because The, orioles The, twins and

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Speaker 2: it was, like, hey come, on we got a yard

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Speaker 2: sale going on And minnesota trading nine of their twenty

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Speaker 2: six players on their major league. Roster buddha In San, Francisco, Hi,

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Speaker 2: buddha what's on your?

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Speaker 3: Mind no? Buddy happy to?

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Speaker 9: Me Friday, BOYS i come in peace and my passion

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Speaker 9: bucket is full this, MORNING, Dp.

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Speaker 3: Dan real.

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Speaker 9: QUICK i was having a conversation with an employee of

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Speaker 9: mine this, week and he asked me IF i had

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Speaker 9: seen the cameo By Dan patrick and happy to get

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Speaker 9: more to yet AND i quickly care him and SAID

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Speaker 9: dp did not have. Cameo Pat daniels had a. Role

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Speaker 9: now get back to, work, son AND i have two, Questions,

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Speaker 9: dan can we get a countdown clock for your, retirement

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Speaker 9: like we have a countdown clock for the beginning of

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Speaker 9: the football. SEASON i, mean that would be cool and

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Speaker 9: it'd be great. Content and then, SECONDLY i was just

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Speaker 9: checking on the gong because is that still? Available BECAUSE

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Speaker 9: i feel like there was a couple of gong worthy

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Speaker 9: moments this, week especially with the whole be Rating chris.

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Speaker 2: test drive on. It nobody's worthy of a gong. Today

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Speaker 2: Yet i'm trying to be a little more judicious WHEN

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Speaker 2: i use the. GONG i could use it On todd

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Speaker 2: quite a. BIT i might be using it later Because

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Speaker 2: todd has a song parody WHERE i think he's making

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Speaker 2: fun of The beatles And Bruce. Springsteen but thank you

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Speaker 2: for the phone. Call Beat buddha and YES i had

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Speaker 2: a role In Happy gilmore.

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Speaker 2: Cameo big difference. There let me SEE avo In Los.

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Speaker 2: Angeles good, MORNING. Avo, Oh Brent musburger is going to

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Speaker 2: join us in the Final? Oh is That Monday todd Or?

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Speaker 2: Today just got the.

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Speaker 3: Word Brent musburger will join us On monday's.

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Speaker 2: Program, okay going into The hall Of, fame he can

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Speaker 2: recap the. Weekend ALRIGHTY. Avo what do you have for?

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Speaker 9: Me first, time long time question For dannon The. Dennets

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Speaker 9: If terry McLaurin were to get, traded what's the top

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Speaker 9: three teams you guys think he gets traded?

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Speaker 2: TOO i would Say New england would be one THAT

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Speaker 2: i would look, at AND i can only go on

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Speaker 2: the other. Now somebody just compiled a. List The chargers

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Speaker 2: there as. Well that would be. Odd If Deebo samuel

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Speaker 2: goes To washington And terry McLaurin would go To San.

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Speaker 2: FRANCIS i don't think he's going to be. Traded it

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Speaker 2: just feels, like you, know AND i don't think anybody

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Speaker 2: holds out. Anymore after Le'Veon bell nobody should hold. Out

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Speaker 2: that was a financial. DISASTER i saw Where STEPHEN. A

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Speaker 2: smith Said Micah parson should hold out or the entire.

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Speaker 2: Season i'm, like you'll never get that money.

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Speaker 3: Back that's.

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Speaker 2: Silly oh you're going to sit out the entire. Year

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Speaker 2: just Ask Le'Veon bell about. That it didn't go well

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Speaker 2: when he was holding out from The. Steelers that'll get.

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Speaker 3: Done they get. Done it's really rare when they. Don't i'm.

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Speaker 2: Surprised i'm more surprised when they don't get done because

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Speaker 2: it feels like everybody has a, number they know what

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Speaker 2: it's going to.

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Speaker 3: Take and then are you going to? Cave are you

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Speaker 3: going to? Cave are you going to? Cave all? RIGHT

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Speaker 3: a little, bit all, right a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Here i've been involved in these negotiations just with my,

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Speaker 2: career and it's, like, ah you, know the hell this.

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Speaker 2: Place and then it's, like all, right the heck with his?

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Speaker 2: Place all, right well this is still my. Place And

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Speaker 2: Miles garrett was out Of, cleveland, right he's, out he's,

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Speaker 2: Gone and all of a, sudden it's we'll make you

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Speaker 2: the highest paid non, quarterback all, right you, know starting

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Speaker 2: to Call cleveland my. Home corey And. Missouri, Hi, corey

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Speaker 2: what's on your? Mind Hey, dan longtime. Listener my first of,

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Speaker 2: all my kids AND i have a seven year old

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Speaker 2: daughter and a four year old, son and they refer

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Speaker 2: to you As Uncle dan because in the, summertimes While

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Speaker 2: i'm a high school basketball coach.

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Speaker 10: And, teacher we like to wake up To dan and

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Speaker 10: The Dan. Nets BUT i have a stat of the

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Speaker 10: day for. You this, day nineteen seventy, six The seahawks

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Speaker 10: lose their first preseason game in team, history twenty seven

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Speaker 10: to twenty to The San francisco forty Nine ERS.

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Speaker 3: Snata The Jay stat of The.

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Speaker 9: Jay we, love.

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Speaker 3: Stat of The, Day stant of The, Day stand of The.

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Speaker 9: Day oh, damn give.

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Speaker 3: Us stat of The.

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Speaker 2: Day brought you By pandora And Panini, america the official

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Speaker 2: trading cards of The Dan Patrick. Show terry McLaurin is

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Speaker 2: one of four players with at least one thousand receiving

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Speaker 2: yards in each of the last five. Seasons he Joins Justin,

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Speaker 2: Jefferson Mike, evans And Davontae. Adams, well he's Not Justin,

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Speaker 2: jefferson But Mike evans is a Future hall Of Famer

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Speaker 2: Davante adams as, well so.

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Speaker 3: You you, know you just have to kind of know your.

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Speaker 3: Place where is that sweet spot that we.

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Speaker 2: Go you know, What we're comfortable there because you got

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Speaker 2: a great situation With washington. Too you got to factor

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Speaker 2: that in great quarterback playoff. Team you're the leader of

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Speaker 2: this playoff team or one of the. Leaders one hour

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Speaker 2: in the books on this Meet. Friday we'll talk to

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Speaker 2: you on the other.

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Speaker 3: Side