1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Can if I am six forty you're listening to the 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: John Cobelt Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. We are on 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: every day from one until four and then after four 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: o'clock John Cobelt Show on demand on the iHeart app 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: and you can follow us a John Cobelt Radio on 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: all the social media. Today's on Friday Special day is 7 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: two runs of the Moistline in the three o'clock hour. 8 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: Also after three point thirty. 9 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: Our first hacking of dumpster this year, and we had 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: a lot of candidates. We probably could have lined up 11 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: about a dozen dumpsters, but first things first, we got 12 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: the first one ready to go, and I will personally 13 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: help out our mob in throwing this official in the dumpster. 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: Just atrocious leadership on the part of everybody in city 15 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: government right now, from the mayor, most of the city 16 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: council except for Tracy Park, the LADWP head, Genie Quinonez, 17 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: the fire chief as well. She's starting to admit that 18 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: there were screw ups. A lot of people want her 19 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: to resign. I want to start off with a couple 20 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: of clips. There was a community meeting in Pacific Palisades 21 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: last night. I'm going to play this story by chipiost 22 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: from KTLA, where the LA Assistant Fire Chief Joe Everett 23 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: told the residents of Pacific Palisades that he feels like 24 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: they failed them. 25 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 3: People who lost everything in the Palisades fire are angry 26 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 3: and frustrated. They lashed out at fire officials at last 27 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 3: night's community meeting held at Sinai Temple in Westwood. They 28 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 3: shouted questions, when can we get access? Why couldn't you 29 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 3: save our community? Why is my home gone? Assistant Fire 30 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: Chief Joe Everett, who is a third generation resident of 31 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 3: Pacific Palisades, apologized. 32 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 4: Extremely extremely hard for me to look you in the 33 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 4: eye knowing that, quite honestly, I feel like I've failed 34 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 4: you to some respect. 35 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: Moving on, let's get into business. 36 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 3: There weren't a whole lot of answers provided except for 37 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 3: a description of the firestorm that most people already understand. 38 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 5: I've never seen fire behavior like that in thirty nine years. 39 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 5: This incident is going to go down as the most 40 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 5: destructive fire incident in the history of Los Angeles County. 41 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: That's chippy os kt LA five report. I want to 42 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: isolate the audio of Joe Everett, the LA Assistant Fire Chief, 43 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: making the apology and I want to compare it to 44 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: a non apology that we are all very aware of 45 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: from last week. So played Joe Everett. 46 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 4: Again, extremely extremely hard for me to look you in 47 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 4: the eye knowing that, quite honestly, I feel like I've 48 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 4: failed you dis respect. Moving on, let's get into business. 49 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: Is she the reaction? Okay? Now? 50 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: Karen Bass walking in the airport after her plane from 51 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: Ghana landed. 52 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 6: Do you owe citizens and apology for being absent while 53 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 6: their homes were burning? Do you regret coming the fire 54 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 6: department budget by millions of dollars? Not in there? Have 55 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 6: you nothing to say today? Have you absolutely nothing to 56 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 6: say to the citizens? Day Elon Mosque says that you're 57 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 6: utterly incompetent. Are you considering your position, Madam Mayor? Have 58 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 6: you absolutely nothing to say to the citizens today? You're 59 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 6: dealing with this disaster, no apology for them. Do you 60 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 6: think you should have been visiting Ghana while this was unfolding? 61 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 6: Back home? 62 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: She's still walking, still walking away, stone faced, silent, Adam. 63 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 6: Mayor, Let me ask you just again, have you anything 64 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 6: to say to the citizens today? As you returned? 65 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: They're gonna. 66 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 5: Pull on one. 67 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 6: Second, Madam, marriage just a few words for the citizens 68 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 6: today as you returned to do you pastrophic? 69 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: Doesn't that make your blood boil compared to but the 70 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: assistant fire chief, Joe Everett said, I don't know whatever 71 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: its role was in the decision making process, the strategizing, 72 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: but what he said was heartfelt. 73 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: It was real human That's that's not a human being. 74 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: That is. 75 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: A narcissist, sociopath. He's absolutely got no feeling at all. 76 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: You imagine not saying a word. And still to this day, 77 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: ten days later, she still hasn't apologized for anything. She 78 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: still gets all huffy uh when a reporter brings up 79 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: her Ghana trip and everything that ensued. She's very brusque 80 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: and abrupt. She tries to avoid the reporters. At the 81 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: press conferences, she will be the seventh or eighth speaker 82 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: in the list, and even then she just spills out 83 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: cliches and platitudes and nonsense. There's one hundred and fifty 84 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: two thousand signatures now at change dot org. If you 85 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: go to change dot org and put Karen Bass in 86 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: the search box, you'll see a petition. One hundred and 87 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: fifty two thousand people want her to resign immediately. We 88 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: come back and talk about another character in this Her 89 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: name is Kristin Crowley. She was the Los Angeles she 90 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: is the Los Angeles Fire Department chief. And I don't 91 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: know for how long, but some of the decisions clearly 92 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: were disastrous. The lack of knowledge about the one hundred 93 00:06:51,800 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: and seventeen gallon reservoir that was emptied by the LADWP well, 94 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: I mean, if Crowley should have known about that a 95 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: year ago and demanded publicly demanded that the thing be refilled, 96 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what that breakdown is about. Also, holding 97 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: back one thousand firefighters for a second shift and at 98 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: least nine engines that they could have deployed in the 99 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: Palisades and. 100 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: Other high risk fire areas. 101 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:25,679 Speaker 1: She held them back, or lieutenants held them back, and 102 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: she didn't overrule them, or didn't know about it. I 103 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: don't know. You know, nobody's talking, nobody's telling the truth. 104 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: But she was at a meeting and got a lot 105 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: of flack. Will tell you about that. Also for every idiot, 106 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: and there could be a few in the audience who says, well, 107 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: you know, one hundred mile an hour winds or unpressed 108 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: dent has ever happened? You can't in Yeah, well, you 109 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: know some people on the internet. The internet's great. One 110 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: thing that the internet has is it has huge archives 111 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: of newspapers and there's a lot of normal people on 112 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: the Internet who goes to the archives. And they used 113 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: quite a few articles from the past about one hundred 114 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: mile wind one hundred mile an hour winds in LA 115 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: and southern California and big fires that occurred even in January, 116 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: so there was nothing unprecedented about it. It actually is 117 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: normal business for southern California from say September to January. 118 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: You get one hundred mile an hour wins, you get fires, 119 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: and you get this kind of damage. And by now 120 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: we should have learned how to mitigate some of this. Instead, 121 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: too many people are standing around doing nothing. 122 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: We'll talk more. 123 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 124 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 7: six forty. 125 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: We just played for you a little clip from Fox 126 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: from Channel five. Chip Yost went to a Palisades community 127 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: meeting where the LA Assistant our chief, Joe Everett, apologized 128 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: heartfelt apology, sounded like he was near tears for being 129 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 1: part of a failure, and the audience there gave him 130 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: some applause. You contrasted that with Karen Bass as her 131 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: stoneface march through the airport coming off the military plane 132 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: fresh from her Ghana vacasion, and to this day, ten 133 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: days later, we've had no apology, no sign of any 134 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: human feeling inside of her, no explanation at about a 135 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: lot of things, you know, not only why she decided 136 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: in that crisis moment to go to Ghana instead of 137 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: stay here. Why they allowed that reservoir to be emptied 138 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: and never refilled. Why the thousand firefighters and nine the 139 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: nine trucks that were already on duty, already on duty 140 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: were not held over for a second shift. 141 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 2: It's it to me. I mean, the thing is, to some. 142 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: Extent it's hard to talk about because we don't know 143 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: what we don't know, and we don't know exactly who 144 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: made the decision and the shade of command, and because 145 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: they're not talking and explaining why. I think there was 146 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 1: one one fire official said, well, we made the decision 147 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: that was appropriate for the time. That is a useless 148 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: pilot crap. Well, obviously it was not the appropriate decision. 149 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: It was the wrong decision. And you know, when you 150 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: have a responsible job, you're really paid, not for the 151 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: normal days, the easy days you're paid for the days 152 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 1: when everything goes to hell and you can't rely on 153 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: a handbook, a manual. You can't rely on anything but 154 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: your instinct, your judgment, your experience, and you've got to 155 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: be right. It's like in a football game, right and 156 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks got the ball. It's late in the game, 157 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: they're on the twenty five yard line. He's got to 158 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: throw a touchdown, fourth down, twenty eight seconds left. It 159 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what's in the playbook, it doesn't matter what 160 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: the coaches want, it doesn't matter anything other than you 161 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: got to survey the field and make the right decision 162 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: and win the game. You have to execute in the moment. 163 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: There's no board of appeals to go to if you 164 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: screw up. Either do the right thing in the moment 165 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 1: or you fail. And we had too many people when 166 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,719 Speaker 1: they were given that moment here in Los Angeles, they 167 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: failed badly, terribly. There was a moment earlier this year 168 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: where somebody should have said, fill up the reservoir fire 169 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: seasons coming. 170 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: Nobody did. 171 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: There was a moment when Karen Bass said, wow, we 172 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: got extreme fire warnings, I got an invitation to Ghana. 173 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: I'm not going to go. She went. 174 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: Anyway, there was a moment where Kristin Crowley and her 175 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: assistant said, it looks like the wind's going to be bad. 176 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: We got a thousand guys. Are we going to keep 177 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: them on for the second shift? A thousand guys. We 178 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: have all these extra engines. We're going to send them 179 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: up there because there's a limited number of places where 180 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: this kind of fire can happen. For the idiots too, right, well, 181 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: you know, okay, cover the whole city. You don't have 182 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: to cover the whole city when they Santa Ana winds blowing. 183 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: You have to cover the Santa Monica Mountains on both sides. 184 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: That's what you do. And maybe it happens anyway, Maybe 185 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: you mitigate a certain percentage, maybe you do some real 186 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: good work, but you got to try. You get paid 187 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: to make the right decision in that moment. Now, maybe 188 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: the forces are too powerful in the end, maybe they're not. 189 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: We're never going to know because they failed in the 190 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: decision making process all alone. All along, Bass decided not 191 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: to command things here. 192 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: You know, we had in charge. You know, it was 193 00:12:59,280 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: the acting there. 194 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: And this guy deserves to get some crap too, because 195 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what he was doing. Marquise Harris Dawson, 196 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: You ever heard of him? City councilman, and and you know, 197 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: nobody knows who he is, but he's part of the 198 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 1: Wolk Brigade and he was the acting there. He had 199 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: the power to do stuff. I don't know what he 200 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 1: did or didn't do. He's got into hiding, he's not speaking. 201 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: And then he had Kristian Crowley had Genez. Well, what 202 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: did you guys do in the moment you had the ball? 203 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: Time is running out. You have to make You have 204 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: to make a right decision. 205 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 5: One. 206 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: I've got a story in the New York Times which 207 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 1: might infuriate you, and I'm going to go into it. 208 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 2: In detail after Debora's news. 209 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: But there was a movement to put more women in 210 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: charge in the department because there were all these scandals 211 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: involving management and fire fighters, sexism scandals, racism scandals, you 212 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: know the whole bit, right, And so they decided to 213 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: go the DEI diversity routes and get rid of the guys. 214 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: To some extent, they've been pushing for more female firefighters 215 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: for a long time, and I think they've gone from 216 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: two point nine percent to three point three percent. You know, 217 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: so there's only so many women who are going to 218 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: want to do this, but they wanted a less of 219 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: a male oriented approach to the way the department ran. 220 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: There are also another females, a lot of a number 221 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: of females on the Fire Commission as well. And as 222 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: you go through this article, you can see what's been 223 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: going on in the last few years. The guys were 224 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: to stand on the sidelines. You make too much trouble. Well, 225 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: now what do we have. We have inexperienced people, people 226 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: who I don't think we're hired for their executive leadership capabilities, 227 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: And now what do we have? Tell you about it? 228 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: New York Times did an interesting story on it. That's next. 229 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI AM 230 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 7: six forty. 231 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: We'round from one until four after four o'clock John Cobelt 232 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: Show on demand on the iHeart app. The podcast version 233 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: same as the radio show. Listen to this What are 234 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: you doing Sunday morning? 235 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: Huh? 236 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio is hosting a special California town hall with Governor 237 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: Newsom Sunday morning at nine am across iHeartRadio's California stations, 238 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: including KFI. Governor Newsom will take questions from Californians who've 239 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: been impacted by the fires and discussed plans for the future. 240 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: So tune in to KFI this Sunday morning at nine 241 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: o'clock for a special California town hall with Gavin Newsom 242 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: on KFI and along all of iHeart Art It's California. 243 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 8: Stations, you can ask some questions. 244 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: John, to this. 245 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: Moment, I have not been invited to be a part 246 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: of this broadcast, all right. The Los Angeles Fire Chief 247 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: Kristin Crowley, nominated, of course by Eric Garcetti, who said 248 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: there's no one better equipped to lead the LA Fire 249 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: Department at this moment than Kristin. No one, no one. 250 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: She's ready to make history. Wow, that's true. And the 251 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: Time says that at the news conference recently, she struggled 252 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: to explain why an outgoing shift of about a thousand 253 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: firefighters were not ordered to remain at work as a precaution. Also, 254 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: I misspoke before I said there were nine extra engines. 255 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: There were forty extra engines. They deployed nine around LA, 256 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: but there were forty more, and there were a thousand firefighters, 257 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: and they kept the engines in the garage and they 258 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: sent the thousand firefighters home. Now she's getting a lot 259 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: of criticism from people in the firefighting industry. There was 260 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: January thirteenth letter signed by unnamed retired and active LA 261 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: Fire Department chief officers. They listed a host of management 262 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: failures and wanted her to resign five page letter. It's 263 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: that a large number of chief officers do not believe 264 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: you're up to the task. Patrick Butler, former LA Fire 265 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: Assistant Chief who is now chief of Redondo Beach Fire Department. 266 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: Patrick Butler said positioning firefighters and equipment near fire zones 267 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: in significant numbers, well in advance during periods of high 268 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: wildfire danger has long been a key strategy. 269 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 2: Listen to this quote. 270 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: It is unfathomable to me how this happened except for 271 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: extreme incompetence and no understanding of fire operations. 272 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 2: Wow. I mean that is. 273 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: A complete knockout punch, is it not. And he's got 274 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: their credentials. Former LA assistant chief now running his own 275 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: department in Medondo and the stuff we've been talking about 276 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: all week, sending in the thousand firefighters, positioning the forty 277 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: trucks in the foothills around the city, unfathomable how this happened. 278 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: Extreme incompetence, no understanding of fire operations, and this is 279 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, is like, there is no excuse 280 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: for this, There's no reason, there's no you know, we 281 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: did extensive analysis and we had a strategy in place, 282 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 1: and no, no, this is just pure We f this 283 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: up bad. I froze, I choke, I had my moment 284 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: to throw the pass, and I dropped the ball and 285 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: then kicked it downfield. 286 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 2: That's what happened. 287 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: Somewhere in those conversations, somebody said, hey, maybe you ought 288 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: to keep the thousand guys on for an extra shift. 289 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: Maybe we want to deploy the forty fire engines. They're 290 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: the ones who told us Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, 291 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: sixth day, knowing about the extreme fire warnings sixth day, 292 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: and when the moment hit that morning, well actually before 293 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: the moment hit that morning, we had one thousand extra guys. 294 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: They knew Tuesday was going to be bad. The winds 295 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: were predictable to some extent. The weather systems were in 296 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: place to produce the winds. So here's your moment. You 297 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: got the ball in your right arm, right you're looking 298 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: for a receiver downfield. Thousand firefighters, they're going to stay 299 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: on for a second shift. Forty engine is going to 300 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: go out and to protect the foothills. Uh oh, big fumble. 301 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: Uh oh, just kick the ball downfield. Uh oh. The 302 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: winds just uh destroyed five thousand homes. The fire destroyed 303 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: five thousand homes. The person who runs a fire department 304 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: must make the correct decision. No excuses, no nothing. I 305 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: don't think we've gotten to such. This is kind of 306 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: a logical place for our society to end up. We have, 307 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: for decades now refuse to judge anybody, refuse to demand 308 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: excellence and competence. 309 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: It allowed everyone to give every kind. 310 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: Of kakamami excuse under the planet as to why they failed, 311 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: instead of sitting a standard that says, here's what you 312 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: must do. You wanted the job. You're being paid a 313 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: lot of money. There's tens of thousands of people's lives 314 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: and livelihoods and homes that depend on it. You can't 315 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: say later on we had a process and we had 316 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: a strategy. No, no, you're paid to have a successful 317 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: process and a winning strategy. That's what you're paid for. 318 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 1: But here we go. This is the mindset of some 319 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: of those in power. Sharon de Lugatch, member of the 320 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: LA Fire Commission. By the way, you should go to 321 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: the LA Fire Commission page and take a look at 322 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: this committee. Sharon de lugach Uh thinks that some of 323 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: the criticism could reflect sexism and homophobia. Treat because treat 324 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: Chief Crowley is the first lesbian to lead the department, 325 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: coming from those unhappy with change. In other words, a woman, 326 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: a lesbian woman running things. For the life of me, 327 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: these people never quit. I don't know who Sharon Delugatch is. 328 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: I don't know why she's on the Fire Commission. That's 329 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: the that's the uh, that's the comeback. The comeback isn't 330 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: at least well, it should be a heartfelt apology. But 331 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: how about hey, yeah, not sending a thousand firefighters onto 332 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: a second shift. Yeah, that has a bad idea. Not 333 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: sending out forty extra engines bad idea. That should be 334 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: the rational response instead sexism and homophobia. 335 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 2: Is this crap? Ever? 336 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: Stop? Nobody, nobody, nobody cares about the whether the fire 337 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: chief has male parts or lady parts. Nobody and nobody, nobody, 338 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: nobody cares who the chief sleeps with. And what we 339 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: pay for is when there is a big fire coming, 340 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: a big windstorm coming, that you send the firefighters and 341 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: the fire engines in the places where there's the highest risk, 342 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: for God's sakes. 343 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 2: I hope, I said to the other day. 344 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: I hope woke politics dies, progressive politics dies in this fire, 345 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: and I hope this kind of crap dies. This idea 346 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: that you're going to use sexism and homophobia as your 347 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: response to legitimate criticism. 348 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 2: I've just flabbergasted. 349 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: Here's Rick Crawford, former LA Fire Department battalion chief. He 350 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: now is the emergency and Crisis Management coordinator for the 351 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: US Capital. I can't speak to why she didn't exercise it, 352 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: meaning flooding the zone with firefighters and engines, but it's 353 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: a known tactic and it would have doubled the word. 354 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it would have prevented the fire, or 355 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: that the fire wouldn't have gotten out of control, but 356 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: she lost a strategic advantage by not telling the offgoing 357 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: shift you shall stay and work. The letter, written by 358 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: the current and retired officers said, well, no one is 359 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: saying that the fire could have been stopped. There is 360 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: no doubt among all of us that if you'd done 361 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,239 Speaker 1: things right and prepared the LA Fire Department for an 362 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: incident of this magnitude, fatalities would have been reduced, property 363 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: would have been saved. And that's the judgment, is that 364 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: you would have saved more homes, You would have saved 365 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: maybe a few more lives, a thousand firefighters, and if 366 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 1: they had one hundred million gallons of water and forty 367 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: engines would have made a difference somewhere some of the neighborhoods, 368 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: some of the homes, and every home saved would have 369 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: been a huge victory. But there wasn't one hundred million 370 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: gallons of water. There wasn't the forty engines. There wasn't 371 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: the firefighters. And it's the fault of Kristin Crowley, the 372 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,959 Speaker 1: fire chief, and Genice Keinoniez, the head of the DWP, 373 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: because they they were in charge of making the decisions. 374 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 2: Kenonas was supposed. 375 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: To fill up the reservoir. Crowley had the thousand firefighters, 376 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: they were in the buildings, they were they were working already. 377 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 2: Just hey, you're. 378 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: Taking an extra shift. Happens all the time. The engines, 379 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: at least these these engines actually out, we're operated, we're operating. 380 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: There's there's another hundred engines that are in the shop, 381 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 1: and there's no mechanics to fix it. 382 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 2: I mean I and we have people in the fire. 383 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: Commission saying, well, this is uh, this is just sexism 384 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: and homophobia. I didn't know who this lady was. I 385 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: never paid attention to who the fire chief was. I 386 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: didn't know she was a lesbian. I didn't know she 387 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: was a woman. I didn't know anything about her. 388 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 2: All I know is. 389 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: Five thousand plus buildings burned to the ground in the Palisades, 390 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: and they're fixated on your sexual parts and what you 391 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: do at two in the morning. I that's the sickness. See, 392 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: that is the woke sickness, the woke cult, the obsessive 393 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: fixation on people's sexuality, their fixation on their sexual habits, 394 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: their gender parts. Instead of getting a fire chief when 395 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: he's got the ball, throws the touchdown and wins the game, 396 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: says thousand guys, you're staying on for work. Forty engines, 397 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: get out there and Kenonyez should have filled up that 398 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: one hundred and seventeen gallon reservoir ten months ago. That's 399 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: what people in charge do successful people. We need to 400 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: take charge people here. All right, more coming up. 401 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM sixty. 402 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 1: Coming up at two o'clock. Big news that's going to 403 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: affect one hundred and seventy million people. We'll take a 404 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: break from the fires for ten minutes. Supreme Court upheld 405 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: the law that's going to shut down TikTok. It'll happen 406 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: on Sunday. That's the law that passed to Congress easily 407 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 1: with the support from most in both parties. Biden signed it, 408 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: and TikTok went to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme 409 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 1: Court said the law is constitutional because it is fighting 410 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: the fear that the China is using the app to 411 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: steal Americans private information and data. And TikTok tried to 412 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: raise it as a speech the objection is a speech 413 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: free speech issue, and Supreme Court said, well, we're not 414 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: even going to consider the free speech issue. The government 415 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: has a right to ban a foreign country, an adversarial country, 416 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: from using this app to collect information on American citizens. 417 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: I don't expect the TikTok crowd to understand that. In fact, 418 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: we've got a montage to play for you of crying 419 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: TikTokers mostly mostly no not now, not yet coming up 420 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: the next hour, and we're gonna talk about Royal Oaks 421 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: from ABC News that legal analysts, and I'll explain this further. 422 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: We are going to continue beating, trying to beat the 423 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: truth from the government on how this fire was handled. 424 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: So we have two important pieces. And it seems, you know, 425 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: we we were the first ones, Michael Schellenberger and a 426 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: few others, the first ones to say right in the 427 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: heat of the battle, hey, let's let's find out who's 428 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: screwed up and how they screwed up. And people are 429 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: going no, no, wait until the fires have put out. 430 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: It's like no, because by then the files will be deleted, 431 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: they'll be shredded. People's memories will get vague, people will 432 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: retire at full pension and move away, and the public 433 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: will lose interest after a while. This only this only 434 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: affects so much of the city and and so you 435 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: have to get it. You have to find out right away. 436 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: I never understand people say, well, no, it's just too soon. 437 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: You have to wait. It's like, no, this is the 438 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: best time. When when when the people in government are 439 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: on their heels and rattled. Now's the time to go 440 00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: after them because they were lying to you. Here's another story. 441 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: Associated Press found that homes were burning and roads were 442 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: already jammed when the Pacific Palisades evacuation order finally came. 443 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: This is that emergency command center. I remember that crying 444 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: guy who runs the center, guy who was weeping. He 445 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: was the one who sent his system sent out three 446 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: false evacuation orders around the city. I mean there was 447 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: at least one of those orders was sent to everybody 448 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: in the city. We were all supposed to evacuate. 449 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 2: Do you know that I got. 450 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 8: Two yesterday on the way home from work to one 451 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 8: two more and they were old. In fact, I sent 452 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 8: a message to the station asking if anybody else did, 453 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 8: and they did not. But I was on the phone 454 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 8: with my friend all of a sudden glaring you know 455 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 8: that noise, Oh that noise, right, And it was two 456 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 8: back to back, and they weren't. 457 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 2: It wasn't for my area. 458 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: You're getting them for other areas. Yes, But the tone 459 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: goes off. 460 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 8: Yes, loud, And it was one right after another. There 461 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 8: were two of them. 462 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: They're supposed to send it to the areas well. 463 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 2: This is this evacuation notice. 464 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: The tone didn't come till forty minutes after some of 465 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: those homes were already burning. Forty minutes the wildfire was 466 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: spreading rapidly by eleven twenty seven am. Actually it started 467 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: more like about ten thirty so many people fled on 468 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: their own that by time the officials issued the order 469 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: to evacuate it was twelve oh seven, So that's an 470 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: hour and a half after the fire started and forty 471 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: minutes after it was spreading through homes. Traffic was already gridlocked. 472 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: That's why people had to exit their cars and run away. 473 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: That's why they had to use a bulldozer to clear 474 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: away of the abandoned vehicles so the fire crews could 475 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: get up there. And all that did was slow things down. 476 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: This is why the fire were prepositioned. You wouldn't have 477 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,479 Speaker 1: to deal with the fire engines trying to go through 478 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: an army of cars that needed to be bull dozed. 479 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: Because everybody got the evacuation orders late, some people figured 480 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: it out quick and ran off on their own. Already 481 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: the road was clogged. Look, they've had decades and decades, 482 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: and they've had thirty years of the internet and all 483 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: this technological all these technological breakthroughs to alert us in time, 484 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: and now we've had five at least five bum evacuation orders. 485 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 2: There's probably been more. 486 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: And then this thing forty minutes late, and the story 487 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: from the AP says, yeah, you know, people are starting 488 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: to lose faith in this. Well, yeah, of course, why 489 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: don't you have faith in a system that gives you 490 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: five phony warnings And then the one morning that mattered, 491 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: you were forty minutes. 492 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 2: Late on what are people doing? 493 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: I mean the whole system, The whole system is busted 494 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: from top to bottom. This is the worst government imaginable. 495 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: Not only did we have the worst city fire disaster 496 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: in American history, but we had the worst government imaginable 497 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: at that exact moment. Like I said before, and the 498 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: game is on the line, most important game of the year. 499 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 2: Everybody's got to execute. No excuses. 500 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: Don't give me homophobia in sexism or whatever other idiotic 501 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: religious cult buzzwords you guys use. Crowley was supposed to 502 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: send the engines and the firefighters. And I don't know 503 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: who the hell is running that warning system, but that 504 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: needs that place needs to be dismantled and rebuilt, because 505 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: that's a disaster. That's a bust. You missed at least 506 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: six times. We come back. We're going to talk to 507 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: Matt Himes. He's a writer and an editor who lost 508 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: his Pacific Palisades home. Oh he's at three. Who's coming 509 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: on two? Oh, that's right, Matt's gonna come in three. 510 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: Royal Oaks is coming in two. 511 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 2: Right. The TikTok thing, that's next. 512 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: TikTok going to be banned as a Sunday debormark live 513 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: in the KFI twenty four our newsroom. Hey, you've been 514 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. You can always 515 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: hear the show live on KFI Am six forty from 516 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: one to four pm every Monday through Friday, and of course, 517 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 1: anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app