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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff three and out podcast, Hopefully you're doing well.

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Speaker 1: Little super Bowl come down and the realization that football

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Speaker 1: So we'll talk some football because Sam Donald, it's just

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the idea of the term bust, because

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Speaker 1: say get rid of him. This is never gonna work.

429
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Speaker 1: But I do think if he's going to be a

430
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Speaker 1: successful player, Like, part of what made Peyton Manning a

431
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 1: success was not his athletic ability. It wasn't his arm strength.

432
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: It was his fundamentals. He was the most fundamentally sound

433
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Speaker 1: player probably in league history. I saw this clip of

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Speaker 1: John Gruden. He was talking to some quarterback and he

435
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 1: said Peyton Manning would make teach tapes of every single

436
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 1: play in the playbook with the specific drills on the

437
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: footwork and the timing of like twenty to twenty five

438
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: snaps of the each individual place and study it throughout

439
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 1: the offseason to make sure his fundamentals were perfect. Scotti Scheffler,

440
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 1: best golfer in the world. Do you know the first

441
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 1: thing he checks his alignment and grip, the most basic

442
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: element of the golf swing, not even the golf swing,

443
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,360
Speaker 1: it's just when you stand over the golf bowl and

444
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: when clearly his fundamentals he's just lost right in Will Campbell.

445
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 1: But if he is going to be a functional good starter.

446
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,239
Speaker 1: To me, he's going to have to be known as

447
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: the most fundamentally sound player in the league, because the

448
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: guy that we witnessed was just hold on for dear life.

449
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: And you can't function in the NFL if your left

450
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: tackle cannot block. There are just the shitty teams have

451
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: pass rushers. Think about that. The Cleveland Browns, who are

452
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: a joke, have the best pass rusher of the league.

453
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: The Raiders, who are drafting one overall, have Max Crosby, Right,

454
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: I mean, think about the Cardinals who are drafting high.

455
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: Have some good defensive linemen. They got sweat. They could

456
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,959
Speaker 1: probably put Walter Nolan over them. Bad teams have pass rushers,

457
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: let alone the good ones. So they're gonna have to

458
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 1: go on the lab and ask themselves, is this his fundamentals?

459
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: Can we get him fundamentally sound to make him a

460
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: solid player, or do we just have to move him

461
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: into guard? But the problem is, left tackles don't grow

462
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: in trees, so where do we even find one? They're

463
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 1: not just available in free agency. And now, because we

464
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: just went to the Super Bowl, we're drafting at the

465
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 1: end of the first round. And even in this draft,

466
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: the best tackles are actually right tackles. Miami guy, the

467
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: Utah guy, Like they're not left tackle. They literally play

468
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: a right tackle right. So I think the Patriots have

469
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: to ask themselves because listen, he had an awful game.

470
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: He's clearly banged up. He didn't have a good playoffs.

471
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: But no one argues when they've seen Drake mayhealthy, like

472
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: that's a guy that every team would want. That is

473
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: a young player with a ton of upside, just what

474
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: you want in a quarterback. That's not the case when

475
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,959
Speaker 1: you watch Will Campbell. Listen, I was hesitant to go.

476
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 1: You know, Joel, I see it clear that Joel, you're

477
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: like six', nine six,' ten you go to, play tackle

478
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: and then you watch. Him move he's got feet Like He's.

479
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: Lane johnson, you're like this guy's a big time athlete and.

480
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: He's powerful he's just. Really good his bend is not,

481
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: An issue like it's not a big. Time talent that's

482
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 1: not the Case Of. Will CAMPBELL and I Think, mike

483
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: vrabel who is an in the trenches, tough guy has

484
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: got to ask himself some tough questions. This offseason can

485
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: we make this work or do we got to make

486
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: the pivot. Right now and if we make the pivot,

487
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: right now what are, our options because most of them

488
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 1: are not going to be. That good before we get into,

489
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: THE mailbag i just have A Quick. DAD diaries i

490
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: last WEEK before i Went To, SAN francisco i had

491
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: to record. SOME interviews i did one with with a

492
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: couple of our podcasts on the volume and just some other.

493
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: Random PEOPLE and i just didn't have time to go

494
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: to this, doctor's appointment and my wife was just taking

495
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: him for, a checkup but he also had gotten circumcised

496
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 1: like a, week before and it's just. IT'S tough, i

497
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: mean when you watch that that the process of like

498
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 1: the week or, two before the little thing they put

499
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: on top. Falls off it doesn't. Look great and, you

500
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: know If you i've never seen a. Kid's circumcised so,

501
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: she's like let's just double check everything's okay with. A

502
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: doctor so she. Gets there turns out. A doctor i

503
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 1: don't know if a car accident, or something but he just.

504
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: Wasn't there they said he. Was INJURED still i still

505
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: haven't heard what his, injury is but he was just

506
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: injured out of, the office, so Essentially and i'm here

507
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: in the office she's at the at the, pediatrician's office

508
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: so they give her like a, backup, doctor who, she said,

509
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: felt like, you know a, borderline intern didn't really know

510
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: how to answer the questions when it came to. The

511
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: circumcision so she called one of the main doctors and

512
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: put him. On FaceTime so, he's, like hey let me check.

513
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: And look so obviously you got to take off the

514
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: diaper and go the, face time and right as they're,

515
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 1: face timing. He unleashes and anyone knows this about, young

516
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: children they're not taking. Hard poops they are. Taking waterfalls

517
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: and if he's at the, right angle a, little tipped

518
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: that waterfall. Will shoot and, she says right as they

519
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: point to go for the checkup for this guy who

520
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: knows where he is some other town Whatever, in arizona

521
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: it just explodes and they all have to like jump

522
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: out of. The way and as we like to call

523
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,040
Speaker 1: it in, this house he did a JACKETTECK And i,

524
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: i'm very very SAD that i missed. That moment his

525
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: first face time came with a gigantic shit that he

526
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: fired right at. The phone and it turns out the, doc,

527
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: st yeah it looks, completely fine and now a, week

528
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,719
Speaker 1: later he looks like he's got a. Normal penis One

529
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: day i'll listen to this and, Be, like dad why

530
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: are you talking? About that but it is what. IT

531
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: is i found out from some Of my. Jewish buddies

532
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: they do like. A ceremony we just sent them off

533
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: and get that thing snipped about, a WEEKEND which i

534
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: think they said we had heard that it's it's better

535
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: to do it like a. WEEK later I think i

536
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: just got snipped inside. The hospital MIGHT, be tmi but

537
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: is what. It is but you just, never know, you

538
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: know you just. Never know you put that, diaper down

539
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: it's free game to come out any hole and it

540
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: could go, High too so you got kind of gotta

541
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: keep your head out of. The side you got to

542
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: keep a diaper or something ready to to kind of

543
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: protect yourself like. A shield and that young doctor or

544
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: nurse or whoever she was that was Helping out maria

545
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: didn't know what, was Coming and, jack Fired and, Jack,

546
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: one okay let's do the Mailbag At. John Middlecoff At

547
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Speaker 1: john middlecoff Is the instagram fire in, those dms get

548
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: your questions answered here on this little. Old podcast It's.

549
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: On netflix let's Start, with jesse big fan of. The

550
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: show i'm wondering if you have any insight on what

551
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: it is about football that makes nepotism work, so well especially.

552
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: In coaching in, most industries nepotism seems to bring down

553
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: the overall level. Of excellence but it, seems like especially

554
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: in the offensive side of, the ball there are so

555
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: many sons of great coaches who are doing extremely high.

556
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: Level work curious what. You think i've actually thought a lot.

557
00:30:55,480 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: About this and let's use the example of YOU and

558
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,719
Speaker 1: i own a company and that company is. Wildly successful

559
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: let's say it makes one hundred million dollars. A year

560
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: we just have a cash cow and, we're doing, you

561
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: know high percentage of a, net profit like life. Is

562
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: good we're both sixty, years old and our kids are

563
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: in their mid to, late twenties and we're gonna make

564
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: those guys partners and they're gonna. Run. It well let's

565
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: say that one, of them if not both, of them

566
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,479
Speaker 1: don't really care about. The business they've obviously grown up,

567
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: pretty well. Pretty rich maybe YOU and i did not

568
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: that those guys can just kind of come into. The

569
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: company let's say the company is. Self sustaining they don't

570
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: have to. Do much our clientele is already. Well established

571
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: it's already a train rolling down. The tracks that those

572
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: guys can can screw, things up right, if anything just

573
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: stay out of. The way but if you put those

574
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,959
Speaker 1: guys in, management positions then they have to deal. With

575
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: people those people might not respect, those individuals and those

576
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: guys could throw off the vibes the business and ruin.

577
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: The company it happens all over. The place that might

578
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: be the, best example but clearly people in any industry

579
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: that are just given a job quote, unquote nepotism or

580
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: given the opportunity because of, a name because of a.

581
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: Family Member if i'm just doing it, because like well

582
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: my dad did it or my uncle did it, or

583
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: WHATEVER but i don't really care. About it, but hey

584
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: it's just gonna make a lot more money doing THIS

585
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: than i would any. Other job probably not in it

586
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: for the, right reasons and that's usually where, the problems, you.

587
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: Know arise we're. In coaching Let's Use kyle shanner as.

588
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: An example, his dad, legendary coach probably should be In

589
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: the hall Of fam his first job in coaching Is With,

590
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: john gruden who actually sean McVay Replaced kyle shanahan or

591
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: might have came a year you're might might have been

592
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: the guy replaced the guy Who. Replaced kyle once you

593
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: go Work For, john gruden who is getting to the

594
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,479
Speaker 1: office every day around three point thirty, four am you

595
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: are the lowest guy in the. Totem pole and if

596
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: you are in, that position. Your job he's the. Offensive

597
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: coordinator you are basically his. Personal assistant do you think

598
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,959
Speaker 1: that guy gives one flying you know what who your,

599
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: dad was what your, name is or like what your.

600
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: Problems are and here's the, other thing especially early on in,

601
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: your career none of the other coaches really. Do either

602
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: so you kind of got to prove yourself to those

603
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: guys or else you're just not gonna. Make it and

604
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: the hours if you don't, like coaching LIKE if i

605
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: don't like using that example of a, different business if

606
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: the business, IS operating i don't even need to. SHOW

607
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: up i just go on vacations all. THE time i can.

608
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: Dick off you can't just not show up from the

609
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: start of training camp through the end of, the season

610
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: and it's every bleeping day. Early late you are just

611
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: there so you can half ass it maybe for, a

612
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: season but you couldn't do it for, many seasons and

613
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: you couldn't earn your way up working for people who

614
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 1: are not, your Father, the Kubiaks. The shanahan these guys

615
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: their careers started not working for. Their father so once

616
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: you start working your, way up those guys have to.

617
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 1: Respect you and then once you become a, position coach

618
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: you then go into a room where the head coach

619
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: and the coordinator are, not present so. It's you let's

620
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: Say you're kyle and you're the wide. Receiver Coach you're

621
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: sean McVay and you're the tight, End Coach You're clint

622
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: kubiak and you're the running. Back coach it's just you,

623
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: and however many of the players For from august till

624
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: hopefully middle To, late january and you have to earn.

625
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: Their respect do you think they give one flying you

626
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: know what who your, dad is especially when your dad

627
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: is not on. That staff the answer. Is no so

628
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: you can't you. Can't hide you will. Get exposed you

629
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: either have, the knowledge you either have the willingness to

630
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 1: connect with, these guys or you. DO not i actually

631
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: think it is a massive Advantage because Shanahan. Or kubiak

632
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: when they, are kids they understand what coaching is in

633
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: terms of. The hours why because when they're in junior

634
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: high and, high school their dads are. Not home so

635
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: if they aspire to get into, that industry they understand

636
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: the hours that come along. With, It right they're not

637
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: getting into. IT blind i think sometimes players have a

638
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: false sense of how much you have to stay in,

639
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: the office and the more they dig, into it, THEY'RE

640
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 1: likeyeah i don't want to coach where if you are

641
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: some of these, guys' sons you, Go listen i'm gonna.

642
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 1: Do this i'm going to be gone for a long period,

643
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: of time for five six months, a year, my family,

644
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: my wife my. Young children You saw mike McDonald like

645
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 1: he sees His baby jack thirty minutes to an hour.

646
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: A week i think he's making that up a little

647
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: Bit because friday is like a half Day and saturday

648
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: if they're, at home he's from home most of. The

649
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: day but his Point was monday Up, UNTIL thursday i

650
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: see my kid thirty to. An hour and he. Wasn't

651
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,720
Speaker 1: bragging he's just saying this is this is, the gig

652
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: and whether we agree or disagree with the the allocation. Of,

653
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: time right we, could disagree, trust me but it is what.

654
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: It is that's what those. Guys DO so i think

655
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: for these Young guys Kubiaks, AND shanahans i mean mcveigh's

656
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: grandpa WAS the gm Of The bill wollh forty. Nine

657
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 1: ers but once you're, in it you can't. Fake it

658
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: you can't fake it with the coaches you're, working around

659
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: and you definitely can't fake it for the players because

660
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: they simply do not give. A shit so for you to,

661
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: be good you kind of just gotta. Be good there's.

662
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: No well and we've seen stories come out About Like pete,

663
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: carroll's kid which is kind, of beat but that's more

664
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,439
Speaker 1: of a Reflection. Of, pete like the Only Guy pete

665
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: carroll's kid works For. Is pete when you look, at,

666
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: McVeigh like he's worked For, the, grudens right he's worked For.

667
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: The shanahans you Look, at kyle he Worked For gary

668
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: kubiak and he worked for, his dad and then he

669
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: Worked For mike Petton And, dan quinn so He And john,

670
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 1: grude like so you work for other people that don't

671
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: necessarily have a connection or aren't, a relative and once

672
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: you're in, that environment whether it's you know me, Or,

673
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: him like we're kind of on our own to figure,

674
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: it out and you're either going to be good or

675
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: not good. At IT and i think most of, those

676
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: guys their passion, for football like is is probably. Pretty

677
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: ELITE and i don't mean like me and you just

678
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: being a huge fan watching. THE games i mean, they

679
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: eat breathe and. Sleep it it's honestly. Not healthy and

680
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: most coaches are whether your dad was a coach or

681
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: Whether you're mike McDonald and you were a, finance major

682
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: you just. Wanted in you are an addict and football

683
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: is the crack and they can't get enough. Of it

684
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: and luckily, with football you know you. Can't overdose well

685
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: you kind, of can you can. Burn OUT but i

686
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: just think that no matter who. You are You Know,

687
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: arthur smith we can debate how good of an offensive.

688
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: Coordinator was he was good for those couple of Years,

689
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: with Vrabel With. Derrick henry his dad was worth billions.

690
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: Of dollars he did not need to be, doing this

691
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: and now He's At, ohio state but he he clearly

692
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: likes the grind, of football and he played in college

693
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: and football means a lot, to him and he's willing

694
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: to put in the hours because it's not you can't.

695
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,720
Speaker 1: Half ASSET and i think we all know or worked

696
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: for people that had, an inn whether it be a. Family,

697
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: member however, it's like this guy's, a fraud this guy's.

698
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: A phony it's hard to be a good coach IN

699
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: the nfl and be a fraud or. A phony it's.

700
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: Actually impossible it, really is because of the energy it

701
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: takes of putting in from a film standpoint and a

702
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: game plan, schematic standpoint and then to the connection with,

703
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: your players because if you don't connect with, your players

704
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: you'll get especially in this day, and age you'll not

705
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: only get exposure'll get run out of. The LEAGUE and

706
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: i think that's happened to a lot of guys that

707
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: just don't care, about that and it's. Not POSSIBLE and

708
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: i think a lot of those guys, are very very

709
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: comfortable around, football PLAYERS and i think that's a. Huge advantage.

710
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: YOU know I Saw kyle shannan say on the broadcast

711
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: yesterday he'd been In Nine. Super bowls, i'm like doing,

712
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: The math, i'm like your dad, won two you've been.

713
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: To three isn't, that five but he went to a

714
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: ton as an assistant coach With The denver broncos that

715
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 1: he lost a bunch. OF them i, WAS like i didn't.

716
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: Realize THAT and i think part of it is once you,

717
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: see that, you go this Is all i've ever wanted.

718
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: To do and there might be some psychological thing of

719
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: trying to prove to your, dad regardless like you become

720
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: really really good, at it and your knowledge and understanding

721
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 1: of it is. Pretty special reading a book something about

722
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: it might have Been a. Belichick Book and Belichick And

723
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 1: mike shanahan were very. Good friends even though they competed

724
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: against each other right IN the afc and had played

725
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: a lot of playoff games like, they were they both

726
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: were CLOSE and i Don't Think mike shanahan was friendly

727
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: with that. Many people but there was this one scene

728
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 1: after like a. PLAYOFF game i Think the broncos Beat.

729
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: The patriots it would have been the earlier mid, two

730
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: THOUSANDS or i guess it might have been. THE nineties

731
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: i forget the. Exact game belichick might have been an,

732
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: assistant coach but they were talking to his Office and

733
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: kyle was in his Office and mike looked at him And,

734
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: said kyle get the hell out. Of Here and kyle

735
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 1: was like a high. School KID so i think part

736
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: of it is proximity to greatness does not equal that

737
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: you're going to, be great but it does have a

738
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: huge advantage when you're a young kid in that mould

739
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 1: you're thinking and, those guys let's Use the kubiaks And

740
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: the shanahans like their dad's kind of know what they're

741
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: doing and that they've mastered. Their offense it's just like

742
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: some people in certain industries that are born into a

743
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: business are good right because they're passionate. ABOUT it i

744
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: think where you get exposed is when you're not passionate

745
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: about it and you're just doing it because this is a,

746
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: family business, it's money and you don't give. A shit

747
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: it ain't gonna work. Long term it will be my

748
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 1: take as a. Confetti settles the name TRENDING on x

749
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: Has Been. Bo knicks it has become The great what

750
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: If if nicks doesn't break his ankle or the refs

751
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: call that egregious hold in the end zone Against the

752
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: bills to end? The Game early nicks is In The

753
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: super bowl with a more, aggressive defense who Could force doronoald.

754
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: Into mistakes quarterback is more battle Tested. Than may he

755
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: has been a better playoff performer as THE best o line,

756
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: in Football and bo loves the type of money Game that.

757
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: Seahawks play all the thinking heads know That, with Bo

758
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: the broncos are In The super bowl and would be

759
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 1: looking at a win with how the style of game.

760
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: Played out is that now the greatest what if in?

761
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,919
Speaker 1: LEAGUE history i can't go. THAT far i to. Think,

762
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: that listen do you Think, bow knicks who had a

763
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: very up and down season would just Go to levi's

764
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: and excel against? THAT defense. I can't i can't go

765
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: That for Would the broncos with a Healthy bow knicks

766
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: have been a better? Team one Are the broncos healthy

767
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: With bow knicks a better team Than that? Patriots? Team yes.

768
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: They ARE do i think If the bills would have

769
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: Beat the broncos and Played the patriots IN The Afc,

770
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 1: championship GAME do i Think the bills would? HAVE won?

771
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: I do? I, Mean Clearly drake may was injured and

772
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: he did not play very well in, the PLAYOFFS so

773
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: i think it's fair to say That the bills In

774
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: the broncos the winner of that game should have been

775
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: in the In The, super Bowl But josh allen missed

776
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: a throw late in the game And bow knicks broke

777
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 1: his ankle and It, broke patriots and then we had

778
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: to Witness the patriots get. Curb Stomped but i'm not

779
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: confident to know what If bo nix, IS there i

780
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: Would imagine seattle still would have. Been favored would be.

781
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: My guess everyone is gonna say it was a situation.

782
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: Around him he couldn't. Do Anything But drake may has

783
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: had one of the worst playoff. Runs ever he was

784
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: missing wide open throws. Last night everyone in the media

785
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: tells me they would pick him number one for the next.

786
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: Ten years to, BE honest i Would Pick, Sam Darnold,

787
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams jordan love and many more. Over him there

788
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 1: isn't his playoffs. FOR bad I think i heard something.

789
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,919
Speaker 1: Seven turnovers if it's, the shoulder he was. Not good

790
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: he was, not GOOD like i Told, to colin LESS

791
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: like I told colin. Last night he's never been in.

792
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: These moments this is not a guy that Played at

793
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: Alabama Or. Ohio state he Played At. North CAROLINA the

794
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: acc is Terrible In north carolina is. Not good so

795
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: in last year his rookie season was like one of

796
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 1: the most embarrassing season For the patriots in league in

797
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: the history of. Their franchise so it's like this was

798
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: a big like welcome to. The league and let's. FACE

799
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: it i mean when he based on the schedule was

800
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: Play two, bills games Play two, bills games and one

801
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: of them he kind of self combusted at. The end

802
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: I'm A drake. May guy the same Thing. WITH herbert

803
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: i don't just jump off. The bandwagon playoffs. Are hard

804
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 1: i'm old enough. TO remember I loved i Was A

805
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: peyton manning FAN before I Like. TOM brady i wrote

806
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: It For peyton Manning Against tom BRADY when i was

807
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: in high school, in college and that's like two thousand

808
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: to two thousand and Seven till peyton won is For A.

809
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: Super bowl peyton used to shit the bed. In playoffs he.

810
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: Was terrible belichick And the patriots. Owned him he. Was

811
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: horrendous so, it's like you can have, bad games does

812
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: anyone Act Like peyton manning couldn't get it done in the? Big,

813
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: Games no so he's twenty three, Years old he's got

814
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: a long. Career, ahead yeah it. Was ugly there's no

815
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: way to, PUT it i hope you Enjoyed The. Super

816
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: bowl just looking ahead the next season, free agency do,

817
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: you think in Light the niners injuries, And Openings kyle

818
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: Pitts And joey bosa would be. Good additions pitts may

819
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: cost some money but effectively play wide receiver and. Tight

820
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: end bear in Mind at yuke is off and we're

821
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 1: not SURE About jj bosa could sign on a short.

822
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: TERM contract I Think juwan jenning's. PROBABLY gone i think

823
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: someone you know wide receivers like him that are productive

824
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: either you know he saw several, Years Ago. Christian kirk

825
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: remember he got a. Huge contract he's a different. Type

826
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: player but when you're a productive player and you've been

827
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: a winning player and you have, certain skills One Thing.

828
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: Juwan jennings winning teams are gonna like he's. Fucking nuts,

829
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: He blocks he kind of like he's a. CRAZY competitor

830
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: i think good teams are gonna Really Value. Juwan JENNINGS

831
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 1: so i think there's a decent chance he's. Not there

832
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: you Know the. BOSA thing i would probably get out

833
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: of the business of paying ten to fifteen million one

834
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 1: year deals for players that. Are older they kind of

835
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 1: missed their window last year would have been, the window

836
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: and you know. They couldn't they couldn't. LAND them i

837
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: would Say On, KYLE pitts i haven't really dove into

838
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: free agency in terms, of money but there are gonna be.

839
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: Some teams the cap went up with an enormous amount of,

840
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:23,720
Speaker 1: cap SPACE and i think whatever, you Imagine the niners

841
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: would be willing. To pay like he's had one good

842
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: season and he did. LOOK good i mean at times

843
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: this year, you're, like Damn That's. KYLE pits, i remember

844
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: in free agency there is no, bargain shopping and with

845
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: Guys Like, kyle pitts he's gonna get overpaid and overpaid

846
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: relative to like his career. So, far now maybe he's,

847
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: turned around maybe becomes a, great player but, whatever contract

848
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: people are gonna, be. Like damn that's what happens in

849
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: free agency because there's, people bidding and these teams with

850
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: cap space are just willing to. SPEND money i don't

851
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:05,959
Speaker 1: want to say like a. Drunken, sailor SAILOR but i can't.

852
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: Even speak i'd be a little stunned if they end

853
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 1: Up With kyle PITS because i think it's gonna, be really.

854
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: Really expensive just a thought in your Take On tom

855
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: brady not having a dog in. The fight what if

856
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: he's a psycho winner and doesn't have doesn't want his

857
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: old team to win A super bowl. Without him, you

858
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: know he kind. Of backtracked he posted Something on Instagram About.

859
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: ROBERT craft i do understand the guy that he just

860
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 1: hired is going to be the coach Of. The raiders

861
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: he is Coaching. FOR seattle i do think it's pretty,

862
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 1: easy though to Be Like robert craft's like a father.

863
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: To me I've Known mike VRABEL since i was. A rookie,

864
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: you know he's a close personal friend. Of mine, of

865
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: course like my allegiance to the franchise that Made me

866
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: I'm A clint kobiak fan. AS well i think think

867
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: he could have played it politically BETTER than i got

868
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: no dog in, the FIGHT and i think he kind of,

869
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: Regretted THAT and i think it's why a lot Of

870
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 1: former patriots, are like, come, on bro, come on that's

871
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: that's kind. Of absurd but maybe, he doesn't like, they

872
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: did say we don't want, you back and maybe he

873
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 1: holds that against kind of the franchise because even if

874
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: they would, have won what does that really Diminish. FOR

875
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: tom i don't necessarily think it diminishes, for HIM but

876
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: i also think, it's like WHY would i root for?

877
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: You guys LAST team i played For. WASN'T florida i

878
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: didn't move Back. TO boston i. Stayed, here now part of,

879
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: that Is as, belichick said tax. Of chooses, You know

880
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: florida is a little easier on his thirty seven million

881
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: dollars A year. Fox job, But, REGARDLESS yeah, I mean

882
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: i think there are a lot of. Variables THERE but

883
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: i do understand the, fans like oh, my god especially

884
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 1: because which is. Definitely fair Patriots and tom have been,

885
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: some controversies and that fan base got. His back they

886
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: went to the mat for. THE guy i mean they

887
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 1: they were extremely loyal to, that, Individual right and then

888
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: it feels like you just forget about we didn't kick, You,

889
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 1: Out bill did We? Fired bill? Come? ON man i

890
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: Think the vrabel. Thing too, it's like that's like one

891
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: of your, best friends, you know you weren't rooting. For

892
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:32,919
Speaker 1: Him maybe tom wasn't from the oil Fields, Of. Midland Texas, Land.

893
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: MAN baby i Thought land man this season. WAS terrible

894
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: i thought it was, really boring even If the raiders

895
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: Reboot with kobiak In draft mendoza And trade crosby for players.

896
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: And picks do they have a chance to compete in

897
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 1: two or? Three years division is Loaded With andy Peyton.

898
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: And harbaugh is it just the wrong place and the.

899
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: Wrong time this IS what i Think hiring kubiak. Makes

900
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: sense you have to have a, big picture kind of

901
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: holistic view of building. This team you cannot have short

902
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: term vision when undertaking. This offseason part Of taking mendoza,

903
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: is like we want to be in position probably definitely

904
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: be much improved by a second and third year when

905
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: we can really take advantage of. His contract But the,

906
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 1: CROSBY thing, i mean there's a lot of smoke. With.

907
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: THAT someone I think lochinfoorah Wrote that Crosby, Told brady

908
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: i'm done playing. For, You obviously glazier said that he's

909
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: done With. The raiders schefter went. On McAfee they asked him.

910
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: About it he kind of tiptoed. Around it but it

911
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: Sounds like max is ready to, move ON and i

912
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: think they can take advantage. OF it i think they

913
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: can get two first round Picks From. Max, crosby now

914
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: if you're trading With the bears Or the bills Or

915
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: the patriots or one of. These teams these are picks

916
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: in the twin of a draft that's not viewed. As

917
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: GREAT so i think you kind, of, go now is

918
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: it worth it two picks in? The twenties? You know

919
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 1: thing with football you. Never know my guest is sitting here,

920
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 1: right now is they kind of reset and? Trade them

921
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: that would be, my guess because how many, more years,

922
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: you know once you get to, round thirty are you

923
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 1: going to be able to trade the guy for multiple first,

924
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: round picks especially if you're not going to be winning? Next,

925
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: Year right maybe you'll be better than you were, last,

926
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: year hopefully but you're you're not competing for. The playoffs

927
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 1: SO and I think, Crosby's, market hell it might get

928
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: you two ones and. A two two ones to two

929
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: in a player like you probably get you. A whole

930
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 1: there's a Question about max. HUGE fan i was just

931
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: wondering where you think the best landing spot Is. For

932
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: crosby my first pick Would, be BUFFALO but i wanted

933
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: to hear your take. ON it I think buffalo would be,

934
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: heavily involved THOUGH their gm has shown kind of the

935
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:02,919
Speaker 1: opposite in terms of. A great i Would imagine seattle would,

936
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 1: be very. Very aggressive they've already done a deal With The,

937
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: geno Smith so Schneider and spytech have. WORKED together i

938
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: would Say the bears would be a team to keep an.

939
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: EYE on i would Say the eagles would be a

940
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 1: team to keep an. Eye on the Forty nine ers would,

941
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: be Interested But mark davis would never allow them to

942
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:26,919
Speaker 1: trade To. The niners rams have two first. Round picks

943
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: could they be Involved? THE cowboys, I mean i think

944
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 1: it's kind of the normal cast. Of characters WHO am

945
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: i probably Missing? The patriots? YOU know i guess He

946
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: likes verible. A lot they would never trade them To.

947
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: The chiefs they would never trade them To. The Chargers

948
00:52:48,560 --> 00:53:05,720
Speaker 1: the ravens that they're desperate for. Pass rush every season

949
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 1: there seems to be a player where scouts and media

950
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: say this guy was a steal in the, third round

951
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 1: and more times, than not that player gets drafted in

952
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: the third round and ends up being. A steal so

953
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: as a former scout, like yourself you'll have a better

954
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: insight as to why this. May happen i'm curious if

955
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: most agree the player would be, a steal why doesn't he. Go,

956
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: higher well the draft is an. Economic exercise so if

957
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: you are, a, corner well let's use a wide receiver

958
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: and you play at a smaller school and you run kind,

959
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: Of slow yet EVERY time i, watch you you're the best

960
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 1: player on the field when you run a four to six'

961
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: one and you're only five eleven. Or, six feet historically

962
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: guys that fit those criteria don't get drafted in. The.

963
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: Top fifty right it's like the. Real estate market when

964
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: you're looking. At a house what's the first? Thing? You do, comps,

965
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: IT'S like well i want to sell this house for. A,

966
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: million dollars well the three comps on this street the

967
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 1: high is eight hundred and seventy. Five Thousand dollars so

968
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: i'm not paying a million dollars. For that house so

969
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: part of it is a market VALUE of what i

970
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 1: have to pay for the player in terms of draft

971
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: capital based on the metrics really matter that. They just

972
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 1: do it's why a lot Of People went will campbell's

973
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: arms are. Just too short i'm not, Fucking with that and, people,

974
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: are like well he's, the best tackle, AND then look

975
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: i mean a lot, OF people go i would never

976
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 1: have taken. HIM that high i bet there's some PEOPLE

977
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: that go i Would Have taken will camble in, the

978
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 1: second round but they took, him forth overall and, that could,

979
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: be you know analogous to like. THE housing analogy, i just,

980
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 1: said you know the market value says eight to seventy

981
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 1: Five and the patriots pay two point, five million dollars

982
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: which could be, a disastrous investment right if he's just a.

983
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: Below AVERAGE player so i think a lot of it

984
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: has to do with a. Guy run slow character is,

985
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 1: hard to. DETERMINE you know i think sometimes guys flip

986
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: because character can simply be coaches kind of bad. Mouthing

987
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: The guy and i'm not saying, it's not true but,

988
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 1: like he know. He doesn't listen he's not. A great

989
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 1: teammate he doesn't love football like you can be a.

990
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: Great college player but if everyone in the, PROGRAM tells

991
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: you i don't think he. REALLY likes football i think

992
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: we have. A long history if you draft, guys like

993
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: that they tend to. Let you down but you go

994
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: get this guy was just like A Second. Team all

995
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: american you got him in. THE third round i think

996
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 1: it's very. Hit or miss but you look at a,

997
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: lot of players You know who funk does A good

998
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: example Broncos safety who funk is a, high end player

999
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: but he ran. Slow in college he didn't really, have

1000
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: a position like was, he a safety was? He, a

1001
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: linebacker historically a lot of guys like that find themselves

1002
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: position list and not very good. In the league so

1003
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: HE goes and i think fifth or sixth round he's

1004
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: because he's been. AN all pro i. Mean he was

1005
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: every time You, watch the broncos. He's crushing people but

1006
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 1: he's a good example of, like the character the want,

1007
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: to the leadership like all those boxes he checks and

1008
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: he's got with good coaches. And HE'S excelled but i

1009
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: think the variables usually. Are are measurables you, either run

1010
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: slow you're, kind of shorter you, have small hands if,

1011
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: you're a quarterback you have poor testing because it's typically

1012
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 1: on a guy who was very, good in college, so

1013
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:32,280
Speaker 1: he produced but then he does that testing because historically testing,

1014
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: Kind of matters like there aren't many guys that Are

1015
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 1: Gonna be pro bowlers running a four to seven, at

1016
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: wide receiver But There. Is keenan allen but if you

1017
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: make a Living On drafting, keenan allen types you're not

1018
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: Gonna Find. Many keenan allens there are some defensive linemen

1019
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: who are just six feet tall that are. Excellent pass

1020
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 1: rushers most of. Them ARE not so i think you've

1021
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: got to, balance it out and there's no right or

1022
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 1: wrong way. To do it it's why the valuing of

1023
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: the person. Matters so much are we drafting, the right

1024
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: guy because typically the guys get drafted high fit, the

1025
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: measurables right but, There's a difference like The guy the

1026
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: raiders took a couple, Of years Ago Wilson from texas

1027
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: tech fit all the measurables but can't play Dead in.

1028
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: The western Right And then Lucas LUCAS van s i think,

1029
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: is his name Never, started at iowa never, started in

1030
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: college but his measurables he. Was a freak so he

1031
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: fits the mold of the type guys that have had

1032
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: success that were drafted in. The first round but it's

1033
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: like this, guy never STARTED even though i think he

1034
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: actually kind of came on toward the end. Of this

1035
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: year it's just these are the type conversations. THAT are

1036
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: there a lot of these teams are in meetings right

1037
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: now and you're just having these conversations like. Coach OR whoever,

1038
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: MY gm is i. LOVE this guy i know he's,

1039
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: A little shorter i know he's. A little slower this.

1040
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: Guy's gonna play and the first thing that that guy

1041
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: at who's the COMP? In the nfl who does he?

1042
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: Remind you of? What type player can you use as

1043
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: an example that he that? He, plays like again, the

1044
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: comp thing like, in real estate is. ENORMOUS in football

1045
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 1: i remember my last. YEAR doing It I had robert

1046
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: woods and he's not as good, as THIS guy, but i,

1047
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: went you know there are Some Similarities. To reggie wayne

1048
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: that's the way. He's gonna play and but that's. The

1049
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: best case it's rare that you use, like you know some.

1050
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: Random slot receiver Usually Use. Like Julian edelman wes welker

1051
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: right that this guy Reminds Me. Of DeAndre hopkins you

1052
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: typically when you're when you're pounding the table, for a

1053
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: guy you use the high end comparison because easier to.

1054
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: Sell the room but that's why the draft is just it's.

1055
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: An economic exercise and even, IF you go i think

1056
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,439
Speaker 1: this guy has a chance to be, an all pro

1057
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: if you know you can get that guy in, the

1058
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: third round you would never take that guy with, pick

1059
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 1: twenty eight because that's terrible value and you only, have so,

1060
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: many you know so much draft capital that you've got

1061
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: to be very careful the way. You utilize it congrats

1062
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: on the new Family in. The, netflix partnership recently You

1063
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: Mentioned that drake may could go one overall. In a

1064
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: redraft who would you take in? Your top five my

1065
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: first Thought, Jump, to caleb well if you're making, That

1066
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: argument today i'm gonna look, like, AN idiot, Right I

1067
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: mean drake may after the performance, in the playoffs it's just,

1068
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: something monitor like? Was he injured was it? The offensive

1069
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:37,439
Speaker 1: line was? He Just overwhelmed because I'm A big, JUSTIN

1070
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: herbert guy i do believe that if you did a,

1071
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: Draft From scratch justin herbert would not make. It past

1072
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: five but people would go if you watch a guy playing,

1073
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: In The Playoffs but jalen hurts had a way better playoff.

1074
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: Games than guy but no one in the League Would

1075
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: take Jalen Hurts. Over JUSTIN herbert so i think give

1076
00:59:53,680 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: you factory to young quarterbacks. On Rookie contracts assuming, AIDEN

1077
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: is Healthy, I, think Drake caleb and jayden would all

1078
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 1: definitely go in. The, top five, Uh you know CJ's.

1079
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 1: AN interesting, ONE I mean i i don't feel that

1080
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: Comfortable with. WHAT i've witnessed i have a hard time

1081
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 1: with humans in any walk of life that don't embrace

1082
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: their strengths and. Understand their weaknesses it's one thing, As a, rookie,

1083
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: it's like okay like you've been in the league, Now,

1084
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: three years like why were you trying To Play? Like

1085
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: josh allen? What's? Going on man can can we can

1086
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 1: we Watch Them like? Alex smith tape like be the

1087
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: Better Version. Of alex smith there's nothing wrong with like, you'd,

1088
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: BE like no I Am. Fucking joe burrow. No you're

1089
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 1: not let's let's let's relax. A little bit. You Cost

1090
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: us kyle shannan said he like Cost Him. The super

1091
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: bowl he didn't, specifically say that, but, he said like

1092
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 1: there were two defenses that were good enough To Win

1093
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: a super bowl. On their Own it Was. Seattle, and

1094
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,439
Speaker 1: houston basically if they're special teams in their, offense screwed

1095
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: up they could Have Won. The super bowl and the

1096
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 1: forty nine ers played. Both of them so HE'S. Essentially

1097
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,479
Speaker 1: saying cj stroud Screwed Up their super bowl he ain't

1098
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 1: wrong because. HE did so i couldn't put him in

1099
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: the top five based on that playoff performances in, those,

1100
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: TWO games like i gotta have you played a. LITTLE

1101
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: under control. I don't know my mind's not firing on all.

1102
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: Pistons right now so who Was? JUST cam ward i.

1103
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 1: Couldn't Do that tyler shuck might. BE a sleeper A

1104
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: Lot of tyler shuck. Buzz right, now Uh hey hey,

1105
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 1: falcons fan here you gotta. Be kidding me pierce looked

1106
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: like a stud good enough to trading our. First round

1107
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: pick seemed worth it despite getting roasted. By the, media

1108
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 1: quotes you this has to Be the most. Falcons thing

1109
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 1: ever what? ARE your thoughts i talked. About it, yesterday

1110
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: you know when you draft these, character guys there it's

1111
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: a roller coaster and you can look like a genius

1112
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: for a period of time and it can end in

1113
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: the blink. Of a moment and that's what. IT feels

1114
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 1: like I don't pretend i ALWAYS say, Like i. LISTEN

1115
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: i'm not i don't GO to the nfl, for you

1116
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: know teaching. Me LIFE lessons so i don't give a

1117
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 1: Shit how the. FALCONS handle it i do not care it's,

1118
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: not my problem but it doesn't look good and it

1119
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 1: does look like their hands might be out, of their

1120
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 1: control might be into. The LEAGUE'S hand, so i mean

1121
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: you're facing five felonies and this, isn't LIKE alleged like

1122
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: i mean pretty sure this all this stuff, Happened on

1123
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 1: camera so. He in trouble but when you make a

1124
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: move like this for a person with, major red flags

1125
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: like no one to. Blame about yourself BUT who? Am

1126
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: i blaming, They fired everybody So it's Like raheem and

1127
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 1: terry font, now it's Like good Luck Ian and. MATTY

1128
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: ice sucks i mean he was by the end. Of

1129
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 1: the year i'd be the, first, to admit like you

1130
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 1: watch what was this twenty seven Coming off, the, ede's

1131
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 1: like goddamn this. Guy looks good guy? Was a monstral

1132
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: is anyone actually gonna put Some? Respect on seattle this

1133
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 1: past week on the build Up To the super bowl

1134
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: during the game has. BEEN absolutely embarrassing i don't want

1135
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 1: to tell. YOU who cares i think sometimes we worry

1136
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: about that stuff. Way too much It's like the patriots

1137
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: has been In So many super bowls that a lot

1138
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 1: of contingent of the media Is. From the northeast it

1139
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 1: just comes with the. Territory you won you've Won Your

1140
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: second super bowl. In a decade like you got a,

1141
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 1: star young Coach you Got, sam freaking donald STORY. Of the?

1142
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: Nfl who cares who? Talks, about you glowingly like? All

1143
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 1: that matters You Won. The super bowl question, For the

1144
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 1: mailbag i'm curious What specifically makes mike McDonald such a.

1145
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 1: Great defensive coordinator is, it the scheme the way he,

1146
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 1: calls the plays or. Both or neither thanks for. Taking

1147
01:03:56,520 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 1: my question it's. A good question i would say from,

1148
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 1: my vantage point it feels like his ability to manipulate

1149
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: the defense is like the what these coaches. Do on,

1150
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: offense you know it's. Like window Dressing It's, like kyle

1151
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: shanahan he runs, the same plays he does that out of.

1152
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 1: A Million formations andy reid's ability to scheme offense is just.

1153
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 1: Second to none. It's pretty rare Like defensive, guys flores Right,

1154
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 1: very aggressive blitzer He's great. At colin blitzes fangio doesn't run,

1155
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 1: an exotic scheme but knows it like the back. Of

1156
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 1: his hands when the players buy in the, best fundamental

1157
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 1: scheme everyone knows their job hard. To OPERATE against When

1158
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 1: i think, mike McDonald's like you got no? Clue what's?

1159
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 1: COMING got, none i mean. Yesterday he's blitzing i'm pretty

1160
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 1: sure they were in the bottom five and, blitzing this

1161
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 1: year like they didn't blitz and Then they got withers

1162
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 1: been coming off the Edge Like He's troy, paula malu

1163
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 1: like and he's like juking. Out offensive lineman they didn't.

1164
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 1: SEE that coming i think he or one of their

1165
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 1: guys said that there was a tip that they notice

1166
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: on film that they knew that. THEY could, EXPLOIT i

1167
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 1: Mean i think mike McDonald's. CLEARLY really smart i Think

1168
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: there's a belichickian. Angle to him belichick's greatest strength as

1169
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 1: a defensive coach is he didn't really, have a defense

1170
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 1: especially by. The twenty tens he would do whatever it

1171
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 1: took to beat you if he needed to have one

1172
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 1: defensive lineman or seven defensive lineman against. A certain Play

1173
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 1: most like fanjio does what he does and for, the

1174
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 1: most part when he, got good players. IT'S gonna work

1175
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 1: I feel like, MIKE McDonald's like i don't know. What

1176
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 1: coverage is mike McDonald, gonna Run Here, ask kyle, SHANNAN and,

1177
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 1: HE'SAY i fuck. I no clue i remember pretty saying

1178
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 1: after the games like we would get to the, line,

1179
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 1: and see okay this is, what they're running and then

1180
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 1: the ball would be snapped and they would do. Something

1181
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 1: completely different and because they have so much team speed

1182
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 1: and going Back, to the ravens all their, dbs can run.

1183
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 1: Cover and hit so when you, can do that you

1184
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: can manipulate stuff and really. THROW guys off i mean part, of,

1185
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 1: offensive Football right if i'm calling, a play whatever just

1186
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 1: some basic route concept, To The left i'm i'm schemed

1187
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 1: this PLAY up because i think your defense that you

1188
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 1: run on second and longs you tend to run, this

1189
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: SPECIFIC defense and i know this route concept. Against that

1190
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 1: defense this guy's gonna get open. In this area so

1191
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 1: we've practiced it. In the game we, get the look

1192
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 1: it's like this. Is gonna work we're gonna get a,

1193
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:49,439
Speaker 1: first down here maybe we're in, the red zone we're. Gonna,

1194
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 1: get touchdown well if you show, me that look but

1195
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: then the coverage. Is completely different when the ball is

1196
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 1: snapped all, of a sudden my quarterback who's just kind

1197
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: of dead set on throwing that round out because we've

1198
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 1: got the. Look we wanted hits your guy in, the

1199
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: bread basket or your guy is in a position he

1200
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 1: didn't see and makes a PBu all, of a sudden the.

1201
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 1: Play doesn't work and that's what It, feels like mike

1202
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: with versatile defensive backs can really. Manipulate the secondary and

1203
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 1: clearly He has, a you know you either have defensive

1204
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 1: lineman they can beat guys, one on one. Or You

1205
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: don't like I'm not giving mike that much Credit For

1206
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: like Leonard williams or hall or some of. Their, DEFENSIVE lawrence,

1207
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:30,439
Speaker 1: right i mean you either got he'd be the first,

1208
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 1: to TELL You like i matabuque when, he Was there

1209
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 1: Or kyle van. Noy, or whoever like you either got

1210
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 1: good front guys. Or you don't but, Your back seven

1211
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 1: can your linebackers? Run and cover can all your dbs

1212
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 1: be versatile and play different positions and, His guys can't

1213
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 1: so then he. Can play chess and that's what it feels,

1214
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 1: like he does is he throws curveballs that a lot

1215
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 1: of defensive. Coordinators Just don't if flores, Gets a lot,

1216
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 1: Flores does, this Flores like my flor's a Smart Guy like,

1217
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 1: Google flora's background like he's. An intelligent individual so a

1218
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 1: lot of times defense like let's, Beat Him Up, Like

1219
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 1: mike zimmer we're gonna BLITZ up, the a gap which

1220
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 1: is nothing. Wrong with that i'm. ALL for that i

1221
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 1: like a, good tough, guy but like can you be

1222
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 1: a tough guy who, is really intelligent because, if you

1223
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 1: are then You Become like, Seal teams six and that's

1224
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 1: what It feels Like mike and flores and some of.

1225
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 1: The top, Guys you know fangio just his defense is

1226
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 1: baby BUT like it's i don't want to, say IT'S

1227
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 1: vanilla but i don't think he's really known for throwing.

1228
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,919
Speaker 1: THAT many curveballs i mean a lot of his defenses

1229
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 1: that have been really good have had like the best players.

1230
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 1: In The league and i'm pro vict fanjo don't, get

1231
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 1: ME wrong But i think mike is more like. An

1232
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 1: offensive Coach, same with floraes where you could put him

1233
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 1: with different personnel and they could. Figure it out where

1234
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 1: If you gave vic guys, that didn't fit it. Ain't

1235
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 1: gonna work and these, are to me the best defensive

1236
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 1: coordinators In The leagu so i'm never a big, fan

1237
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 1: of like this is. What we do it's what drives Me.

1238
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 1: Nuts about, shanahan it's, like, come on man what, you

1239
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 1: do works but we got to add some other, variables there,

1240
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 1: Too you know kevin. O'Connell and, mcpaih, it's like guys

1241
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 1: let's run the ball a. Little bit more let's not be.

1242
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 1: SO hardheaded here I feel like mike there's like what,

1243
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 1: does he do whatever needs, to BE done whatever i think,

1244
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 1: is gonna work and if, it doesn't work we'll. DO

1245
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 1: something different I think he's i don't THINK he's like

1246
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 1: i think he's the least tied to doing. One specific

1247
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 1: thing like if you, just gave him just pick some

1248
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 1: random player they didn't, NECESSARILY fit them i think he'd.

1249
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,719
Speaker 1: MAKE it work i think that's like. His GREATEST skill

1250
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:45,600
Speaker 1: and i think part of that might be his upbringing

1251
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 1: of like, being an undergrad not, playing in college kind

1252
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 1: of having a fresh set of, a fresh mind a fresh,

1253
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 1: set of eyes not being built as a player on,

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01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 1: a certain scheme and then getting into it like he

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Speaker 1: kind of came, in bright eyed bushy t. And OPEN

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Speaker 1: minded and i think you Go, to the ravens who

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Speaker 1: have a lot of versatile players he was able to kind.

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Speaker 1: Of mess. AROUND you know i Was Talking to daniel

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Speaker 1: jeremiah on the phone a couple, of weeks ago and

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Speaker 1: we Were Talking about jesse minter and you Go Back,

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Speaker 1: to wink martindale who have those guys, As young coaches

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Speaker 1: and it's just when you're around, other talented people, especially

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Speaker 1: young people you kind. Of PUSH yourself and i wonder

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Speaker 1: if both those guys. Thrown different ideas it was almost

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Speaker 1: like the Equivalent of what washington was With the la

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Speaker 1: floor McVeigh And all the mike McDaniel and all those

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Speaker 1: guys On offense in baltimore with the defensive side. Of

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Speaker 1: the ball because it kind of, feels THAT way like

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Speaker 1: I Would imagine jesse mentor has a lot Of similarities.

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Speaker 1: As mike McDonald they just do. Whatever it takes AND

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Speaker 1: that's a. Bellichicki in quality it's what made. Him so

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Speaker 1: special it's like he could. Throw any pitch it's like

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Speaker 1: some guys just. Throw ninety, eight, it's like well you

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Speaker 1: used to throw it, down The Middle like aaron judge

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Speaker 1: can time this and, Hit it OUT so again i.

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Speaker 1: Throw ninety, eight, it's like boy do you have a

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Speaker 1: do you. Have a curveball do you have an? Off,

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Speaker 1: SPEED pitch NO i just i. Throw ninety eight that.

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Speaker 1: Ain't gonna work some people will a lot of. Guys

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Speaker 1: that will a lot of guys ain't gonna be able,

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Speaker 1: to hit it especially if you. Can locate it that

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Speaker 1: would be My Take On mike audie else see tomorrow

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Speaker 1: the volume m hm