1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: This is Let's be clear with Shannon Doherty. 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 2: Hello, let's be clear listeners. My name is Samuel Blair, 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 2: and you may recognize me maybe from Cruel Intentions or 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: Legally Blonde, Hellboy, or actually a TV series called Zoe Duncan, 5 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 2: Jack and Jane that I was on on the WB 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 2: with Shannon Doherty. Is my WB network mate who is 7 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: on Charmed at the time. But I am honored, honored, 8 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 2: honored to be hosting this episode of Shannon Doherty's podcast. 9 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 2: Not only did she leave us, of course, with an 10 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 2: incredible body of work and lifelong memories, she is an 11 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: integral part of my childhood and formation of vulnerability and 12 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: showing up. And I only knew Shannon peripherally and on 13 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 2: the edges of the inside and outside of a reef 14 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: and care, but she made a big impression on me. 15 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 3: And I can't believe that we are in a world 16 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 3: that Shannon Doherty is not physically here on She was 17 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 3: such a such a part of everything for the listeners 18 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 3: here of course, our fans, and and even for me. 19 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 3: So there is something that she really connected us all too. 20 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: And so I'm so honored also to have the wonderful 21 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 3: Amanda Clutes on today, whom I love very much and 22 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 3: and I want to welcome Ms Amanda, who is also 23 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 3: a hero and is nominated for an Emmy as co 24 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 3: host of The Talk on CBS, and also of course 25 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 3: a Broadway star and beauty in my in my knowledge 26 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 3: of everything about you, you are a star and a 27 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: beauty and a healthy living advocate with your online also 28 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 3: so of wellness products. 29 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: Yes yet called proper health at Target, which is so 30 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: exciting to me that you are so so such a 31 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 2: star in this space. Because of course, Miss Amanda, we 32 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: met you know when you were so front and center 33 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 2: as like the world's cheerleader in the beginning of COVID, 34 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: when you know, real tragedy struck your life. But and 35 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: that was so formative for me of how to behave 36 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: in a crisis as an option for how to be 37 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,399 Speaker 2: your best self in kind of the most trying, challenging, 38 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 2: heartbreaking times in my opinion. But hello, and welcome to 39 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: the show. Let's be clear, miss Amanda, how are you 40 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 2: doing today? Good morning from California. We're both right here 41 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 2: in California, aren't we. 42 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 4: I know we're only like ten minutes away from each 43 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 4: You forgot to mention Dancing with. 44 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: The Stars kid. 45 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: Oh my god, no, see there's too much thank you. 46 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 4: No, no, no, not for me, for you when you 47 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 4: were saying your introduction. 48 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 5: Oh my god. 49 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: Okay, right, well, I've been around like so many years. 50 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 2: I could either pad this resume or just make it short, 51 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: you know, because I've kind of touched on you know 52 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: so much in this life. But yes, you know what's 53 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: so amazing is, of course you are an incredible dancer 54 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: and performer, and you are a huge reason why I 55 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 2: actually did something like Dancing with the Stars, and of 56 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: course Shannon, she also danced, and Shannon was you know, 57 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: I remember when Shannon was feeling so so ill when 58 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 2: she was going through treatment, and I'd still watch videos 59 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: of her on Instagram where she is, you know, heading 60 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,839 Speaker 2: to dance class after a chemo and sweating it out 61 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: and wanting to really feel alive and in her body 62 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: and feel that joy. And I was like, whoa, I 63 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: can't even do jumping Jacks. I can't believe that she's 64 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: showing up for this, And that was really inspiring to me. 65 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: And then you, of course, just seeing you move and 66 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 2: the joy you had and talking to you, and you 67 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: were actually a huge reason, both of you why I 68 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: did something so out of my comfort zone of dancing 69 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: with the stars. And I was so grateful I did 70 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: because it was such a wonderful example of showing up, 71 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: like just showing up and having people help me and 72 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 2: just show up and put in the work. Yeah, and 73 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: it really changed my perspective on how I relate to 74 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: other people, how I relate to fans, dancing fans, people 75 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: going through things like it was such an important part 76 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 2: of my you know, growing up. 77 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: Oh my God, and Selma, what you did on that show. 78 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 4: I mean the dances you were able to do, and 79 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 4: your grace and everything that you showed the world. I mean, 80 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 4: it was just amazing. You were amazing on that show. 81 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: I learned it from watching you, Miss Amanda. That means 82 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: so much, because really, as anyone knows, when you do 83 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 2: something that's really kind of uncomfortable for you. Although I 84 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 2: always wanted to dance, I don't, you know, I don't. 85 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: I'm not a dancer, and so to even do ballroom 86 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: dances and you know, I was still just still recovering, 87 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 2: but god, it really moved the needle for me. You know, 88 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 2: it gave me a lot of stamina and showed me 89 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 2: that I could get through a day and I could 90 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: get through hard things again, because I think when you're 91 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 2: so traumatized or maybe not feeling well, you just don't 92 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: know how to expand, yeah, or. 93 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: Even get up and move. 94 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, how to get up and move? 95 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 2: How to expand? I am someone that if I'm left 96 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 2: to my own devices in grief or staleness or you know, 97 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: when I'm when I'm in a rut, I do like 98 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: to be alone and ruminated on on it for a 99 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,239 Speaker 2: bit and come up with like my plan for getting 100 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 2: through the day or week. But to do a show 101 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 2: like that, I found it actually was was amazing. I 102 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: hadn't been on a set for a long time period 103 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: because I had been you know, unwell and able to 104 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: work for so many years, and I forgot how much 105 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 2: that camaraderie, how much we need And of course we 106 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: were in you know, this really kind of a very 107 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 2: hard time with people being shut in years ago that 108 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 2: we all want to forget about of you know, COVID 109 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: times and get getting into a new you know, vibe 110 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 2: of life and doing a show is is what we do, 111 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: Like it is the best thing for me. It's like, yes, 112 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: I can do that. Someone can tell me to show 113 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: up time no matter what my grief level is, and 114 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: I will do that. You know, I will show up. 115 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: I will learn a dance, I will do something. And 116 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: when someone puts music on and cares for you and 117 00:06:55,320 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: holds you to learn dances, it is the most vulnerable 118 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: and inspiring and caring kind of camaraderie you can have. 119 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: Do you think really therapeutic? 120 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 5: Yeah? 121 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: I mean it was. 122 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 4: That whole experience was so healing for me and so therapeutic, 123 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 4: and it was not what I expected that to be. 124 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 4: You know, I expected to love ballroom dancing. I expected 125 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 4: to learn how to ballroom dance. 126 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: I couldn't wait for that. 127 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 4: But the whole healing and therapy for me and that 128 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 4: show was a whole different ballgame. So so grateful for that, 129 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 4: And I'm so glad you had that experience too, because 130 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 4: thank you. 131 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: I loved it so for our listeners at home. Obviously 132 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 2: you were going through huge grief and had you already 133 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 2: written your book at that time. No, it was still early. 134 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, no, the book was out. 135 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 2: Yeah not okay, So the book was out and you 136 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: were on Dancing with the Stars, and then right from 137 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 2: Dancing with the Stars, you went straight to working as 138 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: like a host, do you Yeah. 139 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: I was already doing that as well. 140 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: And oh you are already doing it? 141 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 5: Yeah? 142 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, God, I know. 143 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 2: And you had your son Elvis, and you had so 144 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: much now as a single mom who was obviously and 145 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: you know a lot of huge life change and honoring 146 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: your love and marriage and moving on with your career. 147 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: And where are you now, like from that time and now? 148 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: Also for people who are going through huge grief of 149 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 2: life change or upset or you know, taking care of 150 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 2: beloved children, anything where you have to show up to 151 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: kind of be your best self when you might feel like, 152 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: how do I do this? 153 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 5: Yeah? 154 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 2: You know in a couple however you go through it. 155 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 2: How what was the real catalyst of being able to go, Wow, 156 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 2: this grief, this grief is okay? Living in me, I 157 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: mean you always felt like that even from the start 158 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: for me almost you were very like into your body 159 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 2: about what was happening. 160 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, every day. 161 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 2: But to be where you are now with so much 162 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 2: going on in the wellness space and so many people 163 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: looking up to you and being such a light for 164 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 2: so many people, and mom and an incredible mom and 165 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: a sister and all these things. How are you today? 166 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 4: Gosh, you know, it's so interesting, Selma, because it's like 167 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 4: I think in the beginning, I was keeping myself so 168 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 4: busy and not even on purpose. It's just like, you know, 169 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 4: how this goes, like opportunity comes and and were the 170 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 4: type of people that yes, yes, yes, and how much 171 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 4: more can I put on my plate? And I think 172 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 4: it was a good defense mechanism in the beginning of 173 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 4: not running away from my grief because I always confronted it. 174 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 5: You lived it, You lived your grief. 175 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 4: Yes, I lived it. I was aware of it. I 176 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 4: you know, writing about it helped so much. Talking about 177 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 4: it so much helps me. But I really kind of feel, 178 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 4: honestly like it did take a good like two to 179 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 4: three years for it to sort of sink in. And 180 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 4: I'm not even going to joke around. I'm going on 181 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 4: July will be five years that Nick will be gone, 182 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 4: which is crazy to me. And this past January February 183 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 4: was some of my hardest grief months that I've ever experienced. 184 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: That's like four and a half years into grief. 185 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: Did you feel really alone then, like everything kind of 186 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: you know, stabilized in your life and you're like the grief, 187 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 2: Nick is not here. 188 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 1: I don't know it was, it was. 189 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 2: It just hurt. 190 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 4: It hurt like the beginning of days. It hurts so 191 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 4: bad that I was on my kitchen floor screaming and 192 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 4: crying to Nick. One day. I was like, I couldn't. 193 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 4: I couldn't get out of it. And I will say 194 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 4: one of the things I have become really good at 195 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 4: is that when I'm at a low like that, I'm 196 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 4: immediately like, Okay, what am I doing to help myself? 197 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 4: Get back into therapy? Let's do some reiki, Let's do 198 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 4: some energy work, Let's do some meditating. 199 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 6: Let's so hard when you don't want, like when you're 200 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 6: in grief, it's so hard to get out of the ball, 201 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 6: like it's I have. I only have a few good friends, 202 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 6: like in this life as seriously, so many of my friends. 203 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 6: I realized last night and had had some grief too, 204 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 6: because I realized all my closest friends have passed, you know, 205 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 6: like really every every one of my closest friends, including 206 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 6: you know, my childhood boyfriend or whatever, They've all. 207 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 2: Died, and and I actually felt bad for myself last night. 208 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, there's been some. No, 209 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 2: it has not been, thank God, the biggest grief that 210 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 2: I feel I couldn't endure, like you know, something God 211 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: forbid happening to my child. The things that I feel like, 212 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 2: I don't know what I would do if that happened. 213 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 2: You just don't. You just can't fathom that pain. I 214 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: don't like to touch that, but it is there is 215 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 2: as we go through life, even just the regular process 216 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: of life, not even huge tragedies. You know, if you're 217 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: lucky to have friends and go on in time, they 218 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 2: die before you do, you know, And I don't know. 219 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 2: It was just and I just thought of you, and 220 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: I thought, oh my god, how you could show up 221 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 2: for your son and be able to be in the 222 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: ball on the ground or be able to you know, 223 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: just have those days where like this hurts. I'm uncomfortable. 224 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 2: I'm uncomfortable. It's uncomfortable. And how to you know, do 225 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 2: you express that to your son? Because I think there's 226 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 2: like my son doesn't seem to be affected by my 227 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: moods yours. It seems so sensitive and so in touch 228 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 2: with you, you know. Of course he I. 229 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 4: Always said he was an old soul. I'll never forget friend. 230 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 4: The day that Nick passed away. I got home from 231 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 4: the hospital around like ten thirty in the morning and 232 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 4: my girlfriend was watching Elvis and I walked in the door. 233 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 4: She gave me a big hug. I grabbed Ovis and 234 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,599 Speaker 4: I took him into the bedroom I was sleeping in 235 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 4: at the time, and I laid down with him. He 236 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 4: was one, and I looked at him and I was like, 237 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 4: it's you and me, kid, And I swear to God, 238 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 4: this little baby at one years old looked at me, 239 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 4: and the lookie gave me was like I got it. 240 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: I got it. It's you and me, and we. 241 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: Surely remember that, Like I really remember this whole time. 242 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: And I held you. We all held you, but I 243 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 2: held I personally love you, I just love you and 244 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 2: know you. But I I just it touched it touched. 245 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 2: It touched me so much and still does. How you 246 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 2: are such an incredible mom with your with your love 247 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: and your sharing of just. 248 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 5: The saved me. 249 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: Elvis saved me. 250 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 4: I mean that, you know, I was lucky in a 251 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 4: way that he was only one because I didn't have 252 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 4: to I got to grieve on my own time. I 253 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 4: didn't have to watch him grieve as well. You know, 254 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 4: and and I still really haven't. 255 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: I don't. It's like I don't know when his grief 256 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: will kick in, because he. 257 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: Still is Daddy to bed on the pictures, like, does 258 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 2: that still is? It? 259 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: Still does? He does? 260 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 4: And he talks very like because I've always been very 261 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 4: candid with him and honest. You know, he'll say to 262 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 4: his friends, my dad died. My dad had holds in 263 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 4: his lungs and he died. And he just says it 264 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 4: very like frankly and so like it hasn't hit him yet. 265 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: I don't think, and I don't know when it will, 266 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: because grief is is love that we can't express any longer. 267 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 2: You and your family have given him so much love 268 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 2: and all the you know what I mean. 269 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: Allergy is telling you my allergies are? 270 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 5: You know what? 271 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: I lie sometimes and tell people I have allergies. If 272 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 2: I feel like my eyes haven't like woken up for 273 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 2: the day, I don't have allergies. I don't allergies. Sometimes 274 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: if I'm too tired, I'm like, oh, my allergies. Does 275 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 2: anyone have a clarison, because I'm like, I got to 276 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 2: wake up. I don't think I've ever had allergies. 277 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god, are killing me right now. 278 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: Sorry, miss Amanda. That's a thing in your wellness products 279 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: to help with those allergies. 280 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 7: I wish they did. 281 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: No I have. 282 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take my greens though, in my immunity because 283 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 4: that's always helpful. 284 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 2: If there's one thing for someone that does not eat, 285 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: like eat correctly yet in the morning. I'm really learning 286 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: these things. What's one thing you'd tell me I should 287 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: absolutely have in the morning to start my day, because 288 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: I am that person that has black coffee and water 289 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 2: and you know, a Vitamin D a week. 290 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: Yes, I would say I do. 291 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 5: That's not true. 292 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 2: I do have my special things, but I want to 293 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: hear your special Okay. 294 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: I mean I do a couple of things. 295 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 4: But my first thing is is I blend lembon and 296 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 4: ginger and olive oil, and sometimes I put a cucumber 297 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 4: in there and I drink. 298 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: That before you go to the bathroom and throw up. 299 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: No, it tastes really good. 300 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 4: Then I have my immunity from Proper to get all 301 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 4: my guidamin seed. Then I have my coffee, and I 302 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 4: have my greens from Proper, and then I pee for 303 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 4: like five hours straight. And I'm so annoyed by all 304 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 4: the liquids I've drink because I just keep going to 305 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 4: the bathroom. 306 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: If I have your proper greens, if I have that 307 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: on an empty stomach, if I don't do this smoothie 308 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 2: with the olive oil, yeah, I like an eleven. Sorry, 309 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: then but I can still have those greens and they'd 310 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: still be good to me because I'm really looking for 311 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 2: a quick way to get in a little. 312 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 4: Oh no, they're really good and they don't taste greeny. 313 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 4: They taste like a bright green apple. It's really refreshing. 314 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: Actually, oh really, did you come up with flavor? Like 315 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 2: all you were like, I need I need this. 316 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 4: To taste We were very very adamant about it tasting 317 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 4: good and it not costing a million dollars because I 318 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 4: wanted it to be accessible, affordable and taste really good. 319 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 4: Because I really was like, I I look at this 320 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 4: as like a product that I want my mom and 321 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 4: dad to drink. My mom and dad are not the 322 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 4: healthiest eaters. My dad has orioles for breakfast. Yeah seriously, 323 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 4: And the fact that my dad drinks my greens powder. 324 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 4: I'm like, I did it. I did right, I did it. 325 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 5: You did right? 326 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 2: I know, like you're like, if I've done anything right 327 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 2: in my life, I finally by doing this product, I've 328 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: gotten Dad to have. 329 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 4: He drinks it and he's like, this is actually good, 330 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 4: and I'm like, I know, Dad. 331 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 5: I am really proud of you. 332 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 2: I mean, it so makes sense you it's You're the 333 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 2: perfect person for this. How many products do you have, 334 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 2: because I'm just starting doing collaborations now that I'm you know, 335 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 2: feeling so much better and I'm back in the workspace. 336 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 2: How many products do you have? 337 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 4: Improper We have five different super food powders, and then 338 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 4: now we have like the sticks of them so that 339 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 4: you could travel easily. Yeah, and then we have two 340 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 4: more coming out very soon, and then we've got It's 341 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 4: so exciting. It's so fun because you know, I love wellness. 342 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: Thank God, there's someone out there that does to help me. 343 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 1: I mean, my thing is we have one body. 344 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 2: I mean, you know this, Yeah, that's exactly I joke 345 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 2: because that's always kind of been my stick. But it 346 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 2: is the most important thing now, I mean, this is 347 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 2: this is this is all we have. And now even 348 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 2: from Dancing with the Stars, you know, and seeing how 349 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 2: Shannon would dance and you dance, and all these I'm 350 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 2: not dancing in I saw I saw Sasha the other 351 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: day and now that you know his girl's out of 352 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 2: town for a while, he's like, you want to learn 353 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: to dance, you know, and I watch them and I'm 354 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 2: like yeah, and I'm like, I'm going to get in 355 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 2: such good shape again. You know. It's like, why don't 356 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 2: I just do that on my own? Oh, because I 357 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 2: don't to dance. Well, like it's you got to get 358 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 2: someone getting the energy. And I'm one person in the 359 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 2: house with my kid who is now thirteen fourteen, so 360 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: he's wanting to be like off, you know, it's not 361 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 2: it's not so much mom time. And it's really kind 362 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 2: of hard to generate. I'm not a self generator, like 363 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 2: I'm a reader. I'm a self I love being alone, 364 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 2: but I like to read or kind of goofy dance 365 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 2: by myself. Nothing i'd want to like share with the world. 366 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 2: And you know, make very simple recipes. You know. I 367 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 2: like food, cooking, like baking. Nothing that's like good for me. 368 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 2: Love baking because that's little recipes, but it is it 369 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 2: is a little you know, it's tough to like self 370 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 2: generate and get up on the morning and do these things, 371 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 2: and so I don't know this, This wellness space is 372 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 2: always inspiring because now I have to. I just like 373 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 2: even watching those videos on Instagram are like, Okay, in 374 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: the morning, do this for twenty you know, twenty times 375 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 2: and you will not feel sick. Do this and you 376 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 2: will have no inflammation. I'm like, okay, I can do those. 377 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 4: Isn't there like Descline or something where you're like, they're 378 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 4: all these singing. 379 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 2: Ones and they're all the ones you see of the 380 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 2: old people in the park doing and you're like, god, 381 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 2: I guess when you get old there and do this 382 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 2: if you're do this. But I'm old now I have 383 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 2: to start doing this now, so you know. And I 384 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 2: also I partnered, which I'm so excited about with a 385 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 2: skincare skincare line that I love because I had gone 386 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 2: through such a crisis with my skin and not taking 387 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 2: care of myself and being unwell and all these things 388 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 2: happening and not knowing what to do. And as soon 389 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: as that had even cleared up, like I felt so 390 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 2: much better, you know, like a lot this was years ago, 391 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 2: and so now that I'm doing better and you know, 392 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 2: kind of shouting out the things that have helped me 393 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 2: and working on my life, but you know, of sharing that, 394 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 2: but typically my whole life, I was very I didn't 395 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 2: pay attention to that, and I really was really comfortable 396 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 2: kind of being the negative kind of dark loving girl, 397 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 2: not like negative ooh, but that was just my comfort zone. 398 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 2: And now all I want to do is feel better 399 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 2: and look better. And I hope it's not too late. 400 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: Is it too late for me? No? 401 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 4: And I think, honestly, we are very lucky to live 402 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 4: in Los Angeles because I even noticed when I go 403 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 4: to New York. Los Angeles is I think way above 404 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,479 Speaker 4: the trends for wellness and longevity, right. 405 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 2: I know, I've lived here so long that I think 406 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 2: the first ten years I lived here, I kind of 407 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 2: tried everything, and as I was also trying to feel 408 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 2: better so many years ago, like Santa Monica, it's like 409 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 2: all the healers went as far as you can west, 410 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 2: you know, get to Oh I get to Santa Monica. 411 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 2: They're like, we've gone as far as we can in 412 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 2: the world with our new teachings, searching for the best 413 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 2: ways to live our life. And I've done I did 414 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 2: so many great modalities and you know, yogas and ire 415 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 2: Veda and meeting so many great people, and then I've 416 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: kind of stepped back from all that and just now 417 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 2: seeing what people are up to again. 418 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: Oh my god, there's so many things. 419 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 4: The hyperbaric chamber, Okay, okay, do you really do that 420 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 4: because you actually breathe all the time because you exercise. 421 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 2: I do. 422 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:58,479 Speaker 4: But I think that oxygen, like that intense oxygen really 423 00:21:58,800 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 4: is amazing. 424 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: I love hyperberic chambers. 425 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,479 Speaker 4: I love saunas I know Sasha is a big sauna person. 426 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: And cold plunge. 427 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 5: I like the cold. 428 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 2: I love the cold plunch. I won't do a technical 429 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 2: one because I haven't bought one, but I have a 430 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 2: pool that I don't eat. Yeah, just a couple of 431 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 2: ice cubes in there in the winter. You're like, it is, like. 432 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 5: I bet it's cold. It's cold. 433 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 2: I don't know how lot cold A real cold plunch 434 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 2: as to be. I think my pool's like fifty that's good. Yeah, 435 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 2: that's not cold enough. Your cold plunge is probably like 436 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 2: thirty eight. 437 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 4: No, no, no, for women don't need it as cold 438 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 4: as men. Men can handle it. I've just learned this 439 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 4: and listening to a podcast that apparently women should stay 440 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 4: in like the forty five to fifty degree water, and 441 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 4: men can go down to like the thirty eight to 442 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 4: forty three, but it's not necessarily great. 443 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: For women apparently to go that cold. 444 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 2: Okay, I remember I knew Carral Lagerfeld humble brag, but 445 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 2: he used to. Yeah, he lost this massive weight, you know, 446 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 2: but he was much heavier back in the day and 447 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 2: used as fan because he was fitzing because he wanted 448 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 2: to cover his double chin for pictures. So like you 449 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,719 Speaker 2: learn all these things. You just see me now as 450 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: I'm getting older, like walking carrying a fan all the time, 451 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 2: so all the like unsightly parts that I feel are covered. 452 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: But anyhow, what he lost all this weight so he 453 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 2: could fit into a Eddie's lamine suit. You know, it 454 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 2: was like going fashion went really tiny, and as the 455 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 2: great car lager felt was so inspired by all things 456 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 2: vanity and style and fun, he lost a huge amount 457 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: of weight naturally to look amazing, and he did, but 458 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 2: he would only swim, you know, his pool. He kept 459 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 2: very warm because even if it was like a little 460 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 2: bit under, he felt that it built like an adipose 461 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 2: tissue that was unsightly. Oh interesting, So when I jump 462 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 2: in my cold pool. All I think is like, oh no, 463 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 2: am I like growing my like whale fat to protect me? 464 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 2: Oh like the you know what I mean? That's he 465 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 2: was so sensitive about it. When he was doing laps, 466 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 2: He's like, I can't be in a cold pool. 467 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 1: But that's so funny. I've never heard of it. 468 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 2: I don't want to developed like an adipose tissue. 469 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is hilarious. 470 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 2: I think my mother would have been like my mother 471 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 2: was one of those people that was like, nothing looks 472 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 2: as good as being thin feels, you know, like nothing 473 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 2: tastes as good as being bad. The things you can't 474 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 2: say now because we're in two and twenty whatever we're 475 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 2: in and people don't talk like that. But when I 476 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 2: was growing up, yes, you were allowed to say things 477 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 2: like that. 478 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean I was a dancer, professional dancer. 479 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 2: Right of course. 480 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 5: You heard her full life. 481 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 2: Oh that's so refreshed. 482 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 5: It's really comfortable for me for. 483 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,959 Speaker 2: People to like be like, hey, hey, get yourself together. 484 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 4: Yeah no, I mean my my whole sixteen years on 485 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 4: Broadway was about how you know, I mean, every diet 486 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 4: and every weird thing I try. I mean, I remember 487 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 4: for a while I was eating celery for dinner as 488 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 4: my dinner. 489 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 5: How'd that do? 490 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 2: How'd that go? Have energy for shows and stuff? Like? 491 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 2: Did it matter? 492 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 6: You know? 493 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: Ironically, Well it was celery and peanut butter. So maybe 494 00:24:58,600 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: it was the peanut butter. 495 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's and that's like a healthy big meal day 496 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 2: if I'm accelerate peanut butter. Arthur's like, oh my god, 497 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 2: I can't believe you could. 498 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 4: I mean, you just look back at these things. You're like, 499 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 4: what was I doing? But you know, when you're you 500 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 4: have that dancer mentality and and you know, like you said, 501 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 4: I guess we could do. 502 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 2: Anything when we're young, Like our body is like holding 503 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 2: all the reserves of our energy and vitamins and like 504 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 2: we have such a store to draw from. But I feel, 505 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 2: as I age and I'm quite a bit older than you, 506 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 2: I really do need the wellness and the advice and 507 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,239 Speaker 2: that because for someone that didn't train themselves young, and 508 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 2: it wasn't on team sports and didn't have I did 509 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 2: do sports and things, but I really didn't have that 510 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 2: mindset of you know, keep going with a smile type 511 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 2: of vibe. I keep going, but I'm going to let 512 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 2: you know that I don't want to be here, you 513 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like I, as my friend says, 514 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 2: you know, like I've needed to like take a lap 515 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 2: and like adjust my attitude. And now I do feel 516 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 2: like in my life I've taken a few laps and 517 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 2: I'll take many more gladly. Like I'm not claiming to 518 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 2: be Susie's sunshine, but I've changed so vastly. Yeah, in 519 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 2: the past, like probably six years has been my growing 520 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 2: up years. And I'm so impressed by you. What an 521 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 2: early bloomer you are. You're such a young one and 522 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 2: I look at you and I'm like, yeah, I got 523 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 2: here now, you know, I have a whole different life. 524 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 2: I've lived in a whole different sphere of things in 525 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: school and Midwest and whatever. But it is pretty it 526 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 2: is pretty incredible to at least kind of feel a 527 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 2: little bit like I'm on the Amanda Clues vision of life. 528 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: I just feel like. 529 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 4: We kind of I feel like we keep evolving and changing, 530 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,479 Speaker 4: and I think there's eras of life, and you know, 531 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 4: I mean I'm in a new not I'm not in 532 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 4: a new era, but I would say like since twenty twenty, yeah, 533 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 4: there's just been a lot of growth for me, especially 534 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 4: just you know, being in this world alone now raising 535 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 4: Elvis as a single mom. 536 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: You know, that's like a whole new growing era for me. 537 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 4: And it's been very very informative, hard, fun, awesome. 538 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,479 Speaker 2: Do you have your work friends? Like, do you have 539 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 2: work friends? Do you make your la group of friends? 540 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 2: It's such a hard place here I find it. I'm happy, 541 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 2: but I am I'm an isolator because it's such a 542 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 2: commitment to get in a car and do something. We 543 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 2: live close. I couldn't adore you more. We haven't seen 544 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 2: each other in a while. I go to text you, 545 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my gosh, I didn't respond to this 546 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 2: from nine years ago. 547 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 4: I love you. 548 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: It's okay. 549 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 4: I know we do live like literally five minutes five 550 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 4: to ten minutes away from each other. 551 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: That's absurd. 552 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you ever go hiking, will you please? Like 553 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 2: I have to have someone just knock on my door. 554 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 2: That's the good thing about being near Sasha. 555 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 5: Yes, Like, if he knows. 556 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 2: That I'm isolating too long, he'll knock on the doors. 557 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 2: Like sounds sounds like coffee. I don't. That's a terrible accent. 558 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 1: No, that was actually pretty good. 559 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 7: That was pretty good. 560 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 2: Okay, they'll know each other a happy thing, though I 561 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 2: jump all around just because I can't help it. I 562 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 2: haven't talked to you in so long that I'm like, 563 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 2: I don't know where to start today, ask anything real, 564 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,479 Speaker 2: but you know that one of one of our favorite 565 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,959 Speaker 2: things is going places that are gorgeous, like hotels. I 566 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 2: really love it so much. Do you still get out, 567 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 2: Like are you a hotel snob or just your good 568 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 2: attitude carry you through the worst of hotels? 569 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: Oh I'm gonna admit that I'm a hotel snob. 570 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 2: Oh good because you were off to sometimes like on 571 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 2: Broadway or traveling, if you did dance stuff, troops or 572 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 2: this or that, and we can go along for anything 573 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 2: paid like I've done horse shows and whatever. Like I 574 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 2: can go to a Best Western, no problem. I mean 575 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 2: like I have Motel six, no problem, Like thrilled find 576 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 2: you know what you're getting. But if you're going, you know, 577 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 2: like great, wonderful, clean, happy, but for a vacation, like 578 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 2: to really get away like no. 579 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I always say, if I'm leaving my house 580 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 4: that I love so much, in my bed that I 581 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 4: love so much, and everything's so comfortable and comforting, I 582 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 4: need to like we have to we. 583 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 2: Have to exceed that. We have to exceed my house 584 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 2: is it beach, beach or mountain. 585 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: I'm a pisces. I have to love the water. I 586 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: love the beach. Yeah, it's healing for me. I love 587 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: the mountains too. 588 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 4: But like I if I can wake up and go 589 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 4: to sleep on the beach, I'm so happy, Like it 590 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 4: just is what I need in life. 591 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: It's my favorite thing in the entire world. 592 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: I feel the same way. We're gonna have to get 593 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 2: a house by the beach. 594 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: One yes, yes, you know. 595 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 4: I I luckily with my fitness brand, I get to 596 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 4: travel a lot and teach. 597 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: And I was just in. 598 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 4: Cabo teaching, Oh my gosh, and it was lovely. And 599 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 4: I was in Hawaii last month teaching. So it's really 600 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 4: a fun you know. I worked so hard to build 601 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 4: that company, and now it's the reward of being able 602 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 4: to travel and teach all over the world and stay 603 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 4: gorgeous hotels and meet people from all over the world 604 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 4: and inspire, you know, hopefully inspire and motivate them to 605 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 4: get move in and move their body. 606 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 2: Are there so many people? Do people come up to you, 607 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 2: do they look at you for the movement and dance 608 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 2: and wellness, or there's still so many people that come 609 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 2: up to you for you know, how you help them 610 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 2: get through their own hard times. 611 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: I think both a lot of people. I think both 612 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: a lot of people are very grateful to have the motivation. 613 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 4: And then a lot of people have come up to 614 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 4: me in the grief community, and I'll say, it's like, 615 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 4: that's something that's super unexpected. You know, when I lost Nick, 616 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 4: I didn't know anything about grief. I had lost a gram, 617 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 4: I had lost grandparents. 618 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 2: Right, I was going to ask, had you touched a 619 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 2: real tragedy before that? Although very Oh, if you think 620 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 2: touch losing your young husband when you're a young single mom, 621 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 2: it's just not when you're away from your family, you 622 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 2: moved to a new state, start a new life, and 623 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 2: everything you're blindsided on a you know, Sunday evening or 624 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 2: I can't remember what you know, but blindsided in your 625 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 2: life is irrevocably changed. 626 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it's a side, it's a it's a level 627 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 4: of grief that I'd never experienced. And so I will 628 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 4: say what has helped me so much is connecting with 629 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 4: other people in the grief community, especially other widows and widowers, 630 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 4: and I never would have thought that, but it is 631 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 4: so comforting. I was teaching a fitness class in New 632 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 4: York the last time I was there, and this woman 633 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 4: came up to me afterwards, and she said, I'm a 634 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 4: fellow widow and I just like my heart and I 635 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 4: just we gave you to the huge hug. And she's like, 636 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 4: I have three kids and I lost my husband three 637 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 4: years ago, and. 638 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: We just like I instantly did with her, you know. 639 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, because we don't. I don't always go through my 640 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: day with big connection, even though you know you might 641 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 2: want to or whatever. But it's when there is a 642 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 2: woman that comes up to me, well not just women, 643 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 2: but it usually is women. I think that I probably 644 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 2: had affected in my own life, but people come up 645 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 2: to me and have gone through something similar like lost 646 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 2: a parent from a chronic illness or you know, neural 647 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 2: you know, neural degenerative issues and some things you know 648 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 2: that you know in my own health experiences that might 649 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 2: have touched them, or my attitude or wanting to move forward. 650 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 2: It is it's like an it's it does so much 651 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 2: for me, you know, it grounds me in that day 652 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 2: and gives me so much gratitude for being where I 653 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 2: am now, and I want so much now for other 654 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 2: people to know that they can that they can have hope, 655 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 2: because if my attitude can even change, and and that's 656 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 2: really what getting a diagnosis for me really helped me 657 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 2: love myself more because it gave me the affirmation that 658 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 2: I hadn't been feeling well for so long. And I 659 00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 2: think someone when you when you don't feel well for 660 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 2: so long, other people, you know, when you're you just 661 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 2: think there's nothing you can do. It really affects people 662 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 2: obviously out in the world who are in that same boat, 663 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 2: and of course you with it, going through unparalleled grief, 664 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 2: and then they find themselves in a similar boat. You know, 665 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,479 Speaker 2: there's real touchstones that people have in you and and 666 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 2: maybe even in my story, and I do find that 667 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 2: kind of such a gift. And like Shannon obviously back 668 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 2: to Shannon as we're on her podcast, but her vulnerability, 669 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 2: her strength, and you know, she was of course always 670 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,719 Speaker 2: lovingly known as the bad girl, and I had met 671 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 2: her in the you know, after the bad girl era 672 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 2: that she joke about, you know, what does the bad 673 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 2: girl doing? And she turned out to be such a 674 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 2: good girl in her vulnerability and her strength in that 675 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 2: in sharing it with what was sometimes a really unkind 676 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 2: media world to her in some ways like early in 677 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 2: her life, you know, being in the spotlight for her 678 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 2: in your life since thetle House on the prairie or whatever. 679 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 2: And that was just an incredible impact that Shannon had 680 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 2: and that I found too, and that I'm that I 681 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 2: know that you find and now have like that, that 682 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 2: gratitude for that touchstone and knowing that you've affected people 683 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 2: and how that human connection means so much. 684 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: It means so much. It's everything. We don't go through 685 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: things better alone. We just don't. It's like, right, you 686 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: need people around. 687 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 2: You want to and I do. I want to crawl, 688 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 2: and I mean at the time you want to, like 689 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 2: how do you find the energy? But I did feel 690 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 2: very blessed that people knew who I was, so some people. 691 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 2: I got a lot of love to get through things, 692 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 2: you know, from strangers, the kindness of strangers, and more 693 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 2: so even earlier, even before my diagnosis, when I had 694 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 2: had my own issues with sobriety or gone through something 695 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 2: humiliating and you think the world is going to be 696 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 2: so unkind and how do I get through this? And 697 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 2: it really was strangers and you're looking to that don't 698 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 2: have judgment on you, that can hear your own for 699 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 2: going through things or going through an embarrassment or or 700 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 2: fear of that. And I don't know, there's just so 701 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 2: much to be said for being open and honest if 702 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 2: you can in your life. It's not for everyone to, 703 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 2: you know, to share things. But I did feel kind 704 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 2: of lucky. I don't know what I would have done. Well, 705 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 2: I guess I wouldn't have been in the spotlight if 706 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 2: I hadn't been known, and it wouldn't have happened that 707 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 2: you haven't been you know, public grieving or humiliation or 708 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 2: joy or care. So it's just it's a really it's 709 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 2: a really interesting, interesting life to be on. And I'm 710 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,439 Speaker 2: so grateful there's people like you. I mean, really, I do. 711 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 2: I think. I think my angels and things for the 712 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 2: people who've given me messages and you have even your sister. 713 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 2: How's your sister doing? Is she's still in France? 714 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's still great. She's in pair, she wrote that. 715 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 2: I mean, she you guys inspire me so much. She 716 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 2: went after a dream and found love. And so I'm 717 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 2: moving to Paris tomorrow. 718 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's doing so well. 719 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 4: And she was just here visiting me and yeah, she's 720 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 4: doing great. I mean, yeah, talk about somebody again who 721 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 4: like went through you know, tragedy at a divorce and 722 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 4: then just picked up and restarted her life and and 723 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 4: made something completely new for herself. 724 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: You know. I think it's like again, it's that reinvention and. 725 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 2: Reinvention of writing your story, and I like, really writing 726 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 2: the story you want. Yeah, but last night I was 727 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 2: listening to someone and someone said, no, you need to 728 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 2: write down three things you want to achieve. It has 729 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 2: to be at least three things, and if you can't 730 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 2: think it, you can't do it. And I was like, God, 731 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 2: I don't really ever think of anything, huh. I just 732 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 2: really do live in the present, you know, and sometimes 733 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 2: that definitely gets you in trouble. You have to have 734 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 2: a plan, But what are three? Like, I'm almost afraid 735 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 2: to think of three because I'm want to think of 736 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 2: great things, like I want to do, you know, I 737 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 2: want great things. 738 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,879 Speaker 5: And yeah, you're like. 739 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 2: I don't want anyone to like, I don't want anyone 740 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 2: to know. Like it's kind of like that tradition of like, oh, 741 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 2: you know, don't have your shine so big, you know, 742 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 2: because my mother is always like that, like don't ever 743 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 2: any let anyone see you coming, and someone's always willing 744 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 2: to take you down a peg and no, you know, 745 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 2: moth to a flame. If you're too light, the moth comes. 746 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 2: And I've had all these like brain programming of you know, 747 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 2: stay small, stay small, you know, and over there and 748 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 2: safe and and you and Shannon, also you're a testament 749 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 2: that you do not have to stay small, like you 750 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 2: can shine big and less is not always more. And 751 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 2: I want to take that every day with me to 752 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 2: create my own wellness and my own light like you 753 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 2: and I love you, and you know we say that 754 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 2: a lot in this town. But I've loved you since, 755 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 2: you know, I first laid eyes on you. It was 756 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 2: love at first sight. And I'm so happy that you're 757 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,399 Speaker 2: in my life. And maybe one day I'll actually see 758 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:14,959 Speaker 2: you like I love you. I know, number. 759 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 1: I do. I'm gonna come knocking new dorm. We're gonna 760 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:20,439 Speaker 1: go on a hike. 761 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 5: Thank you. 762 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 2: Maybe I could teach us a sexy dance because I 763 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 2: was watching you like really like it's it's you have 764 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 2: a lot of mobility, and I'm really proud of you 765 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 2: like watch on your like move. 766 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 1: I just I love it. It's healing for me. 767 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 4: Moving is movement dance, and it has always been such 768 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 4: a mental health thing for me, Like. 769 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: It just makes me feel better. So it's it's a 770 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 1: part of my day. You know. 771 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 4: We gotta you got to recognize those things. If there's 772 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 4: something you know that makes you feel better, then that's 773 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 4: your go to. 774 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,320 Speaker 1: You know, that's my go to movement. 775 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 2: Yep, movement and do it now and keeping Oh my, 776 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:01,760 Speaker 2: I love you. 777 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 5: I love you too. 778 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Amanda for being on here on 779 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 2: Shannon A. Doherty. Let's be clear, and let's be clear. 780 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 2: I am so happy to have been here today and 781 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 2: just to connect with you and for everyone out there 782 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 2: who loves Shannon. Hey, you never met Shannon, did you, Amanda? 783 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: No? I mean I grew up watching Illo two. 784 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 4: I know though, so I mean like I grew up 785 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 4: with her, But no, I never got to meet her. 786 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 2: I wish you could have met we were we I 787 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 2: just know like that you I mean not look, I'm 788 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 2: like you just would have loved No. But she I 789 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 2: just I can see you know, not not that I 790 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 2: knew her so much, but I really I want to 791 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 2: thank you, and I'm so excited for your line. And 792 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,720 Speaker 2: while I'm on here, I'm so excited for the line 793 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 2: that I've also joined ESK evidence based skincare, which I 794 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,919 Speaker 2: love so excited about as that was a huge way 795 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 2: feeling better in my world, to heal a lot of 796 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,280 Speaker 2: a lot of things in my skin and keep finding 797 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 2: the best of me. And and also I have a 798 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 2: club with a with A. There's so many things that 799 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 2: you inspire me, like you can have your hands and 800 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 2: a lot of things that you love. That's what I'm 801 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 2: trying to do. So I also am you know, involved 802 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,320 Speaker 2: in also a kind of lifestyle luxury brand called Mercy 803 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 2: that I'm going to do a collab with, So I'm 804 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 2: so excited about that. And so you inspired me a 805 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 2: lot for for getting out and actually doing things that 806 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 2: i'd love. 807 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: You inspire me. You inspire so many. 808 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 5: Thank you so much. 809 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 1: It's so good to see your face. 810 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 2: Yay, it's so good to see your face too. Thank 811 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 2: you so much, miss Amanda. I can't wait to see you. 812 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 2: And beautiful Elvis. Can we please get him together with Arthur? Yes, Arthur, 813 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 2: how to be a sweet sweet boy and Arthur. 814 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: You'll be obsessed with he loves that age. 815 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 2: Arthur is super fun and punky and awesome and a teenager. 816 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:00,959 Speaker 2: I love him so much. 817 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:01,879 Speaker 1: Love you. 818 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 2: This has been a wonderful conversation with you. Thank you 819 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 2: Amanda for being on this episode of Let's Be Clear, 820 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 2: and thank you to everyone listening. Stay well, stay positive, 821 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 2: and until next time, nah bye bye