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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome in to a Tuesday edition of One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live.

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Speaker 3: If you were off.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday, I hope you enjoyed your Martin Luther King Day holiday.

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Speaker 2: We were here yesterday and we're here again today, obviously,

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Speaker 2: you know, and still kind of settling things back down

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Speaker 2: after the news that crossed yesterday that head coach Sean

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Speaker 2: McDermott had been relieved of his duty as head coach

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Speaker 2: here in Buffalo, and the coaching carousel wheel now has

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Speaker 2: a new rider, which is the Buffalo Bills. And two

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Speaker 2: more jobs got filled yesterday and overnight. We'll get to

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Speaker 2: those in just a second, and update you on the

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Speaker 2: jobs that are still open, including that obviously of the

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills. But I think first and foremost the coaching

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Speaker 2: carousel news that is of interest is the one that

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Speaker 2: involves Bill's offensive coordinator Joe Brady. The Arizona Cardinals are

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Speaker 2: interviewing him for their head coaching job today. Brady has

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Speaker 2: a second interview upcoming with the Baltimore Ravens, and he

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Speaker 2: has spoken with the Las Vegas Raiders and the Atlanta Falcons.

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Speaker 2: I believe those interviews were virtual while the team was

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Speaker 2: still in the playoffs, So we'll have to see where

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Speaker 2: that goes. And obviously, with head coach Sean McDermott no

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Speaker 2: longer you know, employed here, I don't know, do you

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Speaker 2: You would think that he would at least get a

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Speaker 2: able to manufacture with his Buffalo offense. But I'm not

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Speaker 2: gonna say that's a definite.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, well, all the personal things are in play.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they know him intimately, well what he's about.

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Speaker 2: Obviously you would have to have further conversations because the

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Speaker 3: So yeah, interesting, He's obviously gotten some buzz because of

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Speaker 3: the offense that they run. Certainly the Cynics will say, well,

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Speaker 3: he's he looks good as an offensive coordinator because he's

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Speaker 3: got a quarterback like that. They had a running game

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Speaker 3: that was extremely good and best in the league, best

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Speaker 3: Aaron Kromer was a part of the run game thing

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Speaker 3: as well. So all these coaches and we talked about it.

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Speaker 3: It's one of the things that gets lost in the wash.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of really good coaches who are out

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Speaker 3: of work because when the head coach goes, usually everybody

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Speaker 3: else follows because the nuke head coach hires his people, right.

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Speaker 4: So occasionally there are people that are retained.

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Speaker 3: Right like Jim Schwartz was retained I think by Stefanski

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Speaker 3: That kind of stuff happens.

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Speaker 2: And Stefanski, who just got hired in Atlanta as the

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Speaker 2: Falcons head coach, retained Jeff Olbrick down there as the

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Speaker 3: So that does happen sometimes. And I'm sure Olbrick in

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Speaker 3: Atlanta probably said, I need this number of guys from

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Speaker 3: it's the fallout. I mean, we're a long way from

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Speaker 3: having it settled, yep, A long way from having any

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean from what we understood, basically all day

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Speaker 2: yesterday was spent by the front office huddling up and

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Speaker 2: game of musical chairs in the NFL right now, with

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Speaker 2: The Bills also announced minor news here but their reserve

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Speaker 2: future free agent signings, which are typical after a team

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Speaker 2: Daryl Porter Jr. It's it's a matter of course that

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Speaker 4: So every team does that.

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Speaker 2: So with the coaching carousel and the Bills being a

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Speaker 2: part of that, let's go around the NFL presented by

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Speaker 2: and then we'll get to.

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Speaker 4: Your phone calls. Giants.

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Speaker 2: New head coach John Harbaugh had his introductory press conference

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Speaker 2: in New Jersey this morning. Among his more noteworthy comments

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Speaker 2: change can be good. Overnight, the Tennessee Titans finalized their

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Speaker 3: It's reported to be a five year.

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Speaker 2: Contract for Sala, who now is a head coach for

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Speaker 2: So that got done. The Eagles are interviewing former Giants

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Speaker 2: who worked with Jalen Hurtz at Alabama, is also receiving

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Speaker 2: Weaver has both played and coached in Baltimore and will

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Speaker 2: now get a second interview today. As we said, Super

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Speaker 2: He was a candidate for the Titans, but then removed

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Speaker 2: so six of the ten are still open. Finally, some

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Speaker 2: Monday open the window the practice window for running back JK.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it's a real thing. Jared's did him? Former

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Speaker 4: Storylines, storylines.

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Speaker 2: So that's around the NFL, presented by Colida Health's going

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Speaker 2: to get to the phone calls now, as we know,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot to be said about the move the

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Speaker 4: So we lead off today with Ken in Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 4: Ken?

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Speaker 5: Hey, Good afternoon, fellars.

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Speaker 6: I'm to be on with you all.

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Speaker 5: Obviously still going through the disappointment of the loss on Saturday,

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Speaker 5: and I'm just still public as to how the worlds

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Speaker 5: but also a new structure at one Bill's Drive wearing.

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Speaker 5: Brandon Bean now has more authority. He's not just the

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Speaker 5: GMB's the president and GM. So the question I have

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Speaker 5: be as inclined to take this job knowing a couple

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Speaker 5: of things that are in place. One, they'll be reporting

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Speaker 5: model where both McDermott and Bean were reporting to Pagua. Additionally,

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Speaker 5: he'll also have final say in terms of who that

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Speaker 5: does that sort of interplay influence that decision does a

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Speaker 5: I'd rather be a direct report with John Harbaugh posted

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Speaker 5: who's out there. I mean, Brian Dabile makes sense because

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Speaker 5: he's an offensive minded head coach and clearly the organization

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Speaker 5: is probably moving in that direction. That is an offensive

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Speaker 5: mighty head coach to better support Josh. He coached Josh

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Speaker 5: how thin He's an interesting thought. And of course, Mike

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Speaker 5: McCarthy you are talking about looks like he'll land in

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Speaker 5: Pittsburgh because he's from Pittsburgh. But again, what are your

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Speaker 5: thoughts giving this new model and that Brandon mean has

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Speaker 5: had a lot of misses, critical misses. We passed over

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Speaker 5: have one. We still don't have an edge rusher, okay,

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Speaker 5: And so his tendency to kind of go in a

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Speaker 8: I want to first, I don't agree with the mcdermock firing.

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Speaker 8: And the Patriots game, I forgot about that, thank you, brownie.

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Speaker 9: Threw a flag.

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Speaker 4: Yeah we got that too, Yeah, yes we did.

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Speaker 8: So four, First of all, Cooks a play before that zone, yep.

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Speaker 8: And if that was an interception, then why wasn't a

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Speaker 3: He's grabbing his arm.

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Speaker 9: I'm just concerned.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, everyone's saying, well, that's that's an interception. That's all

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Speaker 8: Why is it a catch for some teams but not

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're right, and you're correct. There's there's no

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Speaker 3: It always has been all through how to until now,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and hoping official gets fired just like they did

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Speaker 3: There you got two of them.

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Speaker 2: Two socials got fired last year because of their screw

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Speaker 3: It doesn't help us. It doesn't help the Bills. It

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Speaker 3: But it's not to be. And now we're in a

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Speaker 4: Right, it's year after year.

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Speaker 3: And they changed the rule for that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and obviously we're sitting here today on a Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: And to take it a step further, you know the

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Speaker 2: He's grabbing Cooks his arm, and some people have argued, oh,

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Speaker 2: it's an uncatchable ball, that's why they didn't call pass interference.

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Speaker 3: So don't tell me it's uncatchable.

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Speaker 2: Two feet, but two feet is not uncatchable. So to me,

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Speaker 2: that play most accurately mimics the pass interference that Taron

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Speaker 2: Johnson got called for going the other way, and it's

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Speaker 2: the same officials on the same side of the field.

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Speaker 3: So I agree with you one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: The biggest problem is the inconsistency of the officiating. And

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Speaker 2: I said it on the air yesterday when I was

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Speaker 2: on with Jeremy in the morning. Inconsistency breeds conspiracy. That's

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Speaker 2: where fans go. They feel that their team is unfairly

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Speaker 2: ruled against. And the Bills have a laundry list of examples.

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Speaker 2: And we didn't get to cover this yesterday because of

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Speaker 2: the news that happened yesterday, but holy cow, like the

445
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Speaker 2: inconsistency is appalling. It's appalling, and quite frankly, it's just

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Speaker 2: flat not good enough, flat out not good enough.

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Speaker 4: And that's that.

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Speaker 2: Got to take a break here because when we come back,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna be joined with our good friend, former Bill

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Speaker 2: center Mitch Morse.

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Speaker 4: We'll get his thoughts.

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Speaker 2: On the end of the Bill season and the change

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Speaker 2: that was made at the head coaching position here in

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Speaker 2: Buffalo when we talked to him from the armchair. Next

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Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live, presented by col Out of Health,

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Back Here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, joined by former Bill center Mitch Morse,

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Speaker 2: who's also the host of the Monday Mornings with Mitch podcast,

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Speaker 2: and his segment is presented and called from the Armchair

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Speaker 2: presented by Raymore and Flannagan. Raymore and Flannigan is a

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Speaker 2: proud partner of the Buffalo Bills and Mitch. A little

462
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Speaker 2: bit more to talk about than we anticipated, so I

463
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Speaker 2: guess we should. I guess begin with the headline news.

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Speaker 2: How surprised were you by the news they crossed yesterday

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Speaker 2: here at one Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 10: Oh, I was taken, Aback. I was surprised, There's no

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Speaker 10: doubt about it. It was like the best way to

468
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Speaker 10: describe it was that feeling of that sinking feeling in

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Speaker 10: your stomach when you lose your wallet and you truly

470
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Speaker 10: have no idea where it is. You mourn the man, right,

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Speaker 10: I don't. I can't speak on what this will turn

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Speaker 10: into for this organization or whatever organization Sean you know,

473
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Speaker 10: latches onto because he absolutely will and have a very

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Speaker 10: stoic career. That being said, I mean, you just you

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Speaker 10: build these relationships. You guys know, he's you guys are

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Speaker 10: entrenched every single day and it's it's intimate and it's remarkable.

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Speaker 10: So you know, you think about his family and what

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Speaker 10: he's done, and you know the roots that he's made

479
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Speaker 10: not only as a family man there as a head

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Speaker 10: coach of the Buffalo bill is the second most winning

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Speaker 10: coach in franchise history. What he's meant to every player

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Speaker 10: that's walked through there, the growth he's had as a

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Speaker 10: player or I mean, excuse me as a coach and

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Speaker 10: as a man, and the impacts he's made on growing

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Speaker 10: the game for his players and making them better people

486
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Speaker 10: on the field and of course off the field. So

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Speaker 10: a lot of emotions coming through the pipe. It was

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Speaker 10: hard to digest and kind of dissect each one of

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Speaker 10: those emotions, but definitely a sense of mourning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And also you can probably feel more more accurately

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Speaker 3: than me, what is like to for the players in

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Speaker 3: the locker room who've just finished an excruciating end to

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Speaker 3: the season and then learned that their head coach is gone,

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Speaker 3: the guy who's responsible for all of them being in

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Speaker 3: the building. So what, you know, let us give us

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Speaker 3: an idea about how those conversations go with between Josh

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Speaker 3: and Dawson Knox and James Cook and Dion Dawkins and

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Speaker 3: all of those guys.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, an incredibles. I mean talk about emotional roller coaster

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Speaker 10: of forty eight to seventy two hours from a very

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Speaker 10: taxing game mentally and physically to an abrupt end to

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Speaker 10: a season with extreme expectations. And then your leader is

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Speaker 10: let go, and then there's this sense of unknown that

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Speaker 10: each player has just going from one season to another.

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Speaker 10: And then you exacerbate that by throwing in a huge caveat,

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Speaker 10: which is there's going to be a new leader of

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Speaker 10: this ball club no matter how your season ends, except

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Speaker 10: for I assume the super Bowl. Even then, you're pouring

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Speaker 10: into each other. You're digesting these emotions, and the best

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Speaker 10: way you do that is with your friends and your peers,

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Speaker 10: because inherently this team is going to look different, and

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Speaker 10: I mean tenfold with a new coach. So I'm sure

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Speaker 10: that bottles were popped oft of special libations, you know,

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Speaker 10: just pouring into each other, and yeah, I don't know,

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Speaker 10: I don't know it. I think it's probably a pretty

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Speaker 10: trying time for all these guys, and you just digest

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Speaker 10: that by conversations and fellowship.

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Speaker 2: And then, you know, looking at Buffalo's roster, at least

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Speaker 2: as it currently exists, Mitch, you know, Brandon Bean often says,

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Speaker 2: your last game of the season can often point out

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Speaker 2: what your team lacks. If you don't get to the

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Speaker 2: ultimate game and win it, what comes to mind for

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Speaker 2: you in terms of where Buffalo positionally may need some

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Speaker 2: reinforcements in improve.

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Speaker 10: Looking at this past game might not be the most

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Speaker 10: apt way to find what you need to bolster this team,

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Speaker 10: because I just truly think that your stalwarts guys unfortunately

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Speaker 10: didn't perform to the standard that they probably hold themselves too. Right,

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Speaker 10: But you look at the you know, the unrestricted free

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Speaker 10: agents and the restricted free agents on this team, it's

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Speaker 10: a pretty daunting list of guys. I mean that come

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Speaker 10: to mind. You have David Edwards, you have Connor McGovern,

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Speaker 10: aj Epeness and Matt Mlano, Tredavius White, Shaq Thompson. And

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Speaker 10: that's not exclusively the list, that's just some of the names.

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Speaker 10: So this team's gonna look different on that end. My

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Speaker 10: thought is you always need to bolster the offensive line.

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Speaker 10: There's a good chance you're gonna lose two stalwarts on

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Speaker 10: that offensive line. They're gonna have an opportunity to get

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Speaker 10: paid handsomely for the job that they've done the past

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Speaker 10: few years for the Bills, And I mean, to me,

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Speaker 10: I would invest in a young pass rusher like for me,

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Speaker 10: I just feel like we if we could find another

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Speaker 10: Jerry Hughes, who's who, who's just consistent day in and

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Speaker 10: day out, has that moxie about him as he grows

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Speaker 10: in this league as a Buffalo Bill, that would be fantastic.

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Speaker 10: And then, of course I think the elephant in the

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Speaker 10: room is, yes, it would like it be nice to

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Speaker 10: bolster this receiver unit, whether it's through free agency and

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Speaker 10: or the draft. You're gonna have to do the same

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Speaker 10: song and dance, which is every year you look at

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Speaker 10: the cap and it looks it's an excruciating number of

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Speaker 10: you know, dead cap and whatever. But you're gonna have to.

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Speaker 10: You're gonna have to dance that dance, and it's gonna

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Speaker 10: be kind of an interesting dance to see them make.

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Speaker 3: Give us a little bit. Certainly with the new as always,

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Speaker 3: the roster is gonna be rinsed at least uh even

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Speaker 3: more so with a new head coach, new philosophy, new

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Speaker 3: tine of players, new look, new you know, new types

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Speaker 3: of guys that he wants, a different a different criteria

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Speaker 3: for selecting what guys he wants. How do you balance

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Speaker 3: getting the right guy with taking a month and a

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Speaker 3: half to get the right guy? You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: The time crunch, yes, and the change.

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Speaker 10: Well, you can look at it at all facets of this,

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Speaker 10: this kind of this kind of roller coaster of the

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Speaker 10: last twenty four to forty eight hours, right Like some

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Speaker 10: of these great head coach candidates, you might not be

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Speaker 10: able to interview for a week or two, and every

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Speaker 10: minute in this business you can't spend idly by. And

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Speaker 10: then you look at players that you want to bring in.

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Speaker 10: You know that kind of starts with the coach and

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Speaker 10: the GM having these candid conversations and you hope they

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Speaker 10: do because there can't be disconnect no matter what the

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Speaker 10: reason behind letting Sean McDermott goes let go, I don't know,

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Speaker 10: I don't know what that is. But whoever does come in,

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Speaker 10: it has to be a symbiotic relationship. These two and

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Speaker 10: you know, whoever the head coach and you know Brandon

578
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 10: have to be a coach, piece of unit, working together,

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Speaker 10: no hoole bars, no information left, you know, on the wayside,

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Speaker 10: not being afraid to have uncomfortable conversations I think is

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Speaker 10: one of Bean's attributes, and hopefully they can find a

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Speaker 10: head coaching candidate that's not afraid to have uncomfortable conversations

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Speaker 10: with Beam and then you grow from those, and then

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Speaker 10: you have those with players and you grow from those there.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, it'll be it's it's a weird thing where

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Speaker 10: it's gonna be a marathon, you hat a sprint at

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Speaker 10: the same time, and it'll be uh it. We'll all

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Speaker 10: just be here with our buckets of popcorn seeing how

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Speaker 10: it turns out.

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Speaker 11: Right.

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Speaker 3: Uh, last one for me, Mitch, how do you.

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Speaker 2: I want your count of your player perspective on this,

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Speaker 2: Not that you yourself went through many coaching changes over the

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Speaker 2: course of your career, but when there is one like

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Speaker 2: this that you know, by your own description, was probably unexpected,

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Speaker 2: by the balance of the locker room and by their

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Speaker 2: response on social media, I think it's safe to assume

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Speaker 2: that they can't worry about what they can't can But

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Speaker 2: at the same time, you know, for veterans, they knew

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Speaker 2: what their role was. It was clearly defined, and now

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Speaker 2: that is not the case anymore because presumably a new

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Speaker 2: coach is going to have a new outlook. How do

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Speaker 2: players kind of calm their nerves, knowing you can't worry

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Speaker 2: about what you can't control, and yet still exist here

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Speaker 2: in the off season waiting for the other shoe to drop.

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Speaker 10: Great question, Chris, and yeah, I wouldn't. I don't envy

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Speaker 10: these players who have to navigate this. The thing that

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Speaker 10: comes to mind to me is you have to disconnect

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Speaker 10: to the best of your ability, refresh, restart, excuse me,

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Speaker 10: you know, recharge that nervous system, pour into your family,

611
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Speaker 10: pour into your support system, and let the chips fall

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Speaker 10: where they may. Over these next few weeks, there's going

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Speaker 10: to be a sense of kind of angst, of course,

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Speaker 10: but also a little bit of excitement just to see, yeah,

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Speaker 10: the change is made. You've had the morning process over

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Speaker 10: these next few weeks, and then you see what that brings.

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Speaker 10: And then you have an opportunity to have conversations with

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Speaker 10: these coaches while you're under contract and you're waiting for

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Speaker 10: that as OTAs to start, which you'll start early with

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Speaker 10: a new coach. So yeah, it's the most intense thing

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Speaker 10: to do, and it's the hardest thing to do in

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Speaker 10: this league or in any facet of life, is try

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Speaker 10: to control things that you can't control, so you have

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Speaker 10: to find a way to disconnect and just recharge.

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Speaker 3: Last one for me, Mitch, maybe hard to answer, but

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Speaker 3: so it's all said and done. Now, what do you

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Speaker 3: think Sean McDermott's legacy is here in Buffalo?

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Speaker 12: Wow?

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Speaker 10: What do I think Sean McDermott's legacy is in Buffalo?

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Speaker 10: I think he's the man who came in to a

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Speaker 10: franchise that was, you know, yearning for a change, yearning

632
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Speaker 10: for a opportunity to at least dance in the playoffs.

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Speaker 10: And as you guys know better than I do, Bill's

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Speaker 10: mafia and anyone associated with the Buffalo Bills or has

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Speaker 10: stakes in them as a fans, they're a special group

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Speaker 10: of folks. And when I say special, I mean exceptional

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Speaker 10: people who love their team and are unabashful about how

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Speaker 10: they feel about their team. And he came in and

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Speaker 10: gave them hope and strength and gave the the players

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Speaker 10: an opportunity to have a little moxy about them and

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Speaker 10: have a little confidence and a little swagger. You could

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Speaker 10: see it how they how they played these past nine years.

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Speaker 10: Second winning is coach in Buffalo Bill's history, carries his

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Speaker 10: own merit, and I think what you'll remember from coach

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Speaker 10: McDermott is that the grace he left with. I thought

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Speaker 10: it was a very classy way to kind of pay

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Speaker 10: homage that yesterday when he put that statement out. I think,

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Speaker 10: as trying as it is right now, for a player

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Speaker 10: or a fan, you're just gonna you're gonna think of

650
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Speaker 10: him with just it's he's a beautiful man. And the

651
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Speaker 10: last words he said on a press conference where I'm

652
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 10: gonna do this, you know, I'm gonna fight for Buffalo

653
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 10: because they deserve it. And the man loved Buffalo more

654
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 10: than anything. And then you see players posting photos of

655
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 10: him standing in the Ralph for that last game. He

656
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 10: just loved Buffalo and he gave it his best and

657
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 10: he gave it as all. And that's all you can

658
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 10: ask when a leader.

659
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Speaker 2: Mitch, thanks for all your help this season. We appreciate it,

660
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 2: and we'll see if we can't reconvene in the fall,

661
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 2: it'll be here before we know it.

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Speaker 10: Gentlemen, I just want to take an opportunity. Chris Steve,

663
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 10: thank you so much for being so kind to me

664
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Speaker 10: a rookie in this space. You're so gracious and everyone

665
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 10: behind the scenes, Jay and his crew. God bless you.

666
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:24,959
Speaker 10: I hope we get an opportunity to do this again.

667
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 10: It was such a treat. Thank you.

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00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 2: All right, Mitch, not a rookie anymore. Take care of Mitch,

669
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Speaker 2: have a great offseason.

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Speaker 4: We'll catch up with you.

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Speaker 10: Absolutely. Take it easy, guys.

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Speaker 2: Right, that's Mitch Morris from the armchair, presented by Ray

673
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 2: Moore and Flanagan.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, he is right about that.

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Speaker 2: I think you know, when you coach in one place,

676
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: as long as McDermott was able to here in Buffalo,

677
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 2: you develop an understanding on how the community works around

678
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 2: the team, and I think he did a really good

679
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 2: job embracing that as well, which is why I think

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Speaker 2: we get some of the response we're getting from the

681
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Speaker 2: calls we've had over the last day plus here.

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Speaker 4: So no surprise there.

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Speaker 2: Let's jump back on the phone lines at eight O

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Speaker 2: three oh five fifty while we have a moment, and

685
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Speaker 2: we go to Bob in North Carolina.

686
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 3: What's up Bob?

687
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Speaker 13: Hey, guys, can you hear me?

688
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Speaker 14: Okay?

689
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 13: We can, yes, Thanks for taking the call.

690
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 3: Sure.

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Speaker 13: I believe that Sean's firing. That's something that's been brewing

692
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Speaker 13: for some time. Ye know, he's a wonderful person, and

693
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 13: he's very talented defensive strategist, you know. But he's had

694
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Speaker 13: the luxury also of having what I would consider the

695
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 13: best football player as his quarterback. Josh is a once

696
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Speaker 13: in a lifetime talent. If I can give you an analogy,

697
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 13: he's sort of like a thoroughbred racehorse that's been given

698
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Speaker 13: the wrong jockey. And there's an old saying in horse

699
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 13: racing sometimes you bet on the jockey, not just the horse,

700
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 13: you know. In this case, the analogy is that Josh

701
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 13: is the horse, and the head coaches the jockey. You know,

702
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 13: that horse has only so many races in him, you know,

703
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Speaker 13: and the owner and all around him know that they

704
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 13: have this, you know, this magnificent horse who can win

705
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Speaker 13: in the lower handicap races, but not the big ones.

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Speaker 13: So eventually the owner knows something has to change. The

707
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Speaker 13: most obvious change is the jockey to bring things, you know.

708
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Speaker 13: Back from this analogy, Sean has always focused on sort

709
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 13: of reining in Josh and turnovers almost every week. Turnovers, turnovers, turnovers. Yes,

710
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Speaker 13: that's very important if you've got an average to acceptable quarterback,

711
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Speaker 13: But this type of philosophy stresses the negative aspect of

712
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Speaker 13: the game and changes the mindset and the confidence of

713
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 13: a once in a lifetime talent. I mean, you could

714
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 13: see that Josh was pulling himself back. That window that

715
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 13: he saw before he could fire through all of a

716
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 13: sudden was half closed. What an offensive minded coach emphasizes

717
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 13: is the positive aspects needed to take advantage of his talents.

718
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Speaker 13: That was surmise that the proverbial straw that cemented this

719
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Speaker 13: decision with Pagula was seeing his franchise quarterback, the best

720
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Speaker 13: player in football, emotionally drained, devastated by what had just

721
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 13: happened to him on the podium. He saw and said, look,

722
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Speaker 13: it's time to change the jockey before this horse can't

723
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Speaker 13: run any longer. Give this thoroughbread his head, give him

724
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Speaker 13: the jockey to guide him to the finish line and

725
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Speaker 13: as the champion he deserves to be. Who knows, maybe

726
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 13: this horse will end up being a triple Crown winner. Yeah,

727
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 13: all right, and we bring the analogy back, maybe three

728
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 13: Super Bowls for this particular Buffalo Bill's team.

729
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Speaker 2: Now, Bob, I'm sorry, we're up against the breaks. So

730
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, We're up against the break, So I gotta

731
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 2: cutch it. Loose, but you know, we know what you're

732
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 2: getting at and look very good, which is what Sean

733
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 2: McDermott was was not good enough, and that's why the

734
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 2: change was made. And I think people will see their

735
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 2: way to that logic, and Bob, you clearly have. So

736
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Speaker 2: that's kind of where we stand right now.

737
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Speaker 3: That's been that conversation. Also that Bob got into about

738
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Speaker 3: Josh being wasted and his career is being wasted, has

739
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:58,479
Speaker 3: been going on since twenty twenty, since the thirteen second game,

740
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 3: since then, what you name the year.

741
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Speaker 5: So.

742
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 3: You're, yeah, you're not alone obviously, Bob. That's been echoing

743
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 3: around ever since. They've been going to the playoffs eight

744
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 3: out of the nine years McDermott's been here and haven't

745
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 3: gotten past the AFC Championship. So you're you're not alone

746
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 3: in that.

747
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here, more of your phone calls

748
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: when we get back. Plus we have Dan Orlowski in

749
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 2: hour number two here on a Tuesday edition of One

750
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Speaker 2: Bill's Live, presented by a lot of Health HiT's Buffalo

751
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 2: Bills Radio. Back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown,

752
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you, and we're gonna get right back

753
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 2: to the phone since we got a lot of people

754
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Speaker 2: holding and we go to Mark in Tanawanda next, what's

755
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 2: up Mark.

756
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Speaker 15: Fellas, There's no way. Bob the horse guy waited longer

757
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 15: than I did to get on the radio. My god,

758
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 15: he see you made me famous. Everyone's waiting to hear

759
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 15: what I have to say for whatever reason. Thanks to you.

760
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 15: All right, So I got a couple of things for

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00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 15: you guys. What a what a great interview with miss

762
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 15: Morris by the way, that was awesome. But just real quick,

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Speaker 15: I think for the first time in a long time,

764
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 15: the Bills have an image, uh that they kind of

765
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 15: always an explanation here. I mean, how how can you

766
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 15: get rid of Sean McDermott and not Brandon Bean. It

767
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 15: just makes no sense to me. You know, salary is

768
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,919
Speaker 15: such as taken onto Curtis paying for Curtis Samuel, Uh,

769
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 15: you know this receiver room and then they're talking about

770
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 15: these weapons we've had on defense. I thought McDermott had

771
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 15: his best year coaching this year because I just don't

772
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 15: think he had a lot. And that starts with Brandon Bean.

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Speaker 15: I'm I'm not against the firing of McDermott, but I

774
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 15: can't wait to hear the explanations from Brandon. From Brandon Bean,

775
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 15: but and the reason I called kind of like that

776
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 15: my dark horse in all this for a coach and Steve,

777
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 15: I'm hoping you're gonna be a little biased. But what

778
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 15: about a guy like Frank Reich. And he's got the experience.

779
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 15: He won a Super Bowl as a coordinator with the Eagles.

780
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 15: It always helps when you have a quarterback like Josh Allen.

781
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 15: But I just think he does so much for the community. Still,

782
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 15: he's like the offensive version of Sean McDermott and having

783
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 15: that character first mentality, and he's just I mean, if

784
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 15: I had ten guys on a board, I think he'd

785
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 15: be nine or ten for me. I wanted to run

786
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Speaker 15: that by you guys. No one's really mentioned him. I'd

787
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 15: love to see him win a Super Bowl in Buffalo.

788
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 15: I think that'd be absolutely unbelievable. I'm gonna have up

789
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Speaker 15: to listen to you boys. Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 4: Yep, good call, Mark, Thanks for it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, I think Sean did do a good

792
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 2: job this year, but I think a lot of it

793
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 2: was due to the lack of manpower because of injury.

794
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Speaker 2: I mean the injury started at the beginning of the year,

795
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Speaker 2: and they didn't stop, and so it was like a

796
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 2: weekly exercise, calling guys up from the practice squad to

797
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: not only be ready on game day, but to play.

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00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: Zion Loge blew through his three practice squad elevations by

799
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Speaker 2: week five, and then they had to find somebody else

800
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 2: to do it, and then they had to find a

801
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 2: third guy to do it for Darien Mathis, Jordan Phillips.

802
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 2: Like it was, it was out of control. It was

803
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Speaker 2: a man power problem due largely to injury.

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Speaker 3: Though.

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Speaker 2: I think this year anyway, maybe more than even in

806
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: previous years. You know, when you look up at the

807
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 2: end and their seventh and total defense. Frank Reich, you

808
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 2: want to weigh in on.

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Speaker 3: That, Yeah, I mean certainly he's probably he's a name

810
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 3: in the pool, no question. Haven't heard his name in connection.

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Speaker 3: He just finished coaching the Stanford Cardinal this last football

812
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 3: season on a one year transition play as a favor. Yeah,

813
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 3: to Andrew Luck might be difficult to lure him out

814
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 3: of retirement. I don't know. Yeah, there's a lot in

815
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 3: this we don't know. And you're right, Mark, we'd love

816
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 3: an explanation. It's one of the things that is not

817
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 3: getting a lot of attention, or the possibilities that this

818
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 3: was the right move. Certainly a lot of people are

819
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 3: piling on Brandon Bean and they didn't have talent and

820
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 3: all that. In the scenarios you can there's always a

821
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 3: scenario that it can make sense, particularly if you look

822
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 3: at it from the top down. If both these guys

823
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 3: report to Terry and he's here in both sides of it,

824
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Speaker 3: as you know he probably did. He's probably got a

825
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 3: different perspective than any of us do sitting on this

826
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Speaker 3: side of the curtain, and he's heard both these guys

827
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 3: make a case for what was going on with the team. Now,

828
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Speaker 3: I'm not saying they were in there yelling back and

829
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 3: forth and arguing and all of this, but he's been

830
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 3: in the middle of this with both those guys reporting

831
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Speaker 3: directly to him for nine years, and when push came

832
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 3: to shove, he made the call that he thinks is

833
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 3: going to be best for him going forward. It's not

834
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 3: just the Denver game, it's not just the Kansas City games.

835
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 3: It's the training camp, it's the roster construction, it's the

836
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 3: salary cap, it's the draft. It all goes into the

837
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Speaker 3: stew of why this decision was made, whether we get

838
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 3: an whether we get an explament, explanation or not, you

839
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Speaker 3: gotta know all of that's in there. And this is

840
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 3: where they came out.

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00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 4: We're gonna just squeeze round on a sale in here

842
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 4: before the break. What's up, Ron?

843
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Speaker 11: Hey? What's so guys to Steve? Appreciate it? Hey, thanks

844
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 11: for all the knowledge and the truth that you guys speak.

845
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 11: I just real quick, I promise I'll be you got

846
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 11: a busy day. We talked about truth. So Brandon Bean

847
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 11: tried his best to get players.

848
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 3: And like you.

849
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 11: Mentioned about Jalen Wadlers, people don't realize that it's not

850
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 11: Jalen WBB Brandon Bean. Jalen and Wabla's organization did not

851
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 11: want him to come to a division rival. So that's

852
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 11: not on Bean and the other players. They don't want

853
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 11: to come to Buffalo. Like vond Miller first say, he

854
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 11: tried to get the Vontae Hopkins, DeAndre DeAndre Hopkins, DeVante Adams.

855
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 11: They didn't want to come here. They said no. And

856
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 11: as far as as far as Josh Allen goes, am

857
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 11: sorry as this is the truth, but that game was

858
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 11: on Josh Allen, there were some other things. Well, he's

859
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 11: singing handily, had four turnovers. He's still the greatest. I

860
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 11: still love him. And also as far as John Gruden

861
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Speaker 11: from yesterday, why would you want somebody that sends emails

862
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Speaker 11: about players and as derogatory sent to come to Buffalo?

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Speaker 11: I wouldn't want that kind of culture. And you know,

864
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Speaker 11: I just appreciate you guys, and you know, Michae Mdan,

865
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Speaker 11: Michael Dan, Steve, I think you touched on this yesterday.

866
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Speaker 11: Kreign's I'm wrong, but here's an organization.

867
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Speaker 12: Man.

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Speaker 11: People coming in late so late to training can too

869
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Speaker 11: soft on coaches or don't want to get hit. You

870
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Speaker 11: don't want that in Buffalo. So thank you guys very

871
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Speaker 11: much for us for your time and other much.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Thanks Ron.

873
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Speaker 2: We're up against the break here, so we don't have

874
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 2: much time to respond to that. But I just think that,

875
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 2: you know, you look at the whole thing. And again,

876
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: as Steve pointed out, we don't see it from all

877
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 2: of the angles that people upstairs do because they're privited

878
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 2: far more conversations than we are. So the decision that

879
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 2: was made doesn't add up for a lot of you

880
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 2: out there the way it presumably adds up for the

881
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 2: people upstairs, and I think that's the disconnect, and I

882
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 2: think that's why a lot of fans are saying, well,

883
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Speaker 2: give us an explanation. I think I don't know if

884
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Speaker 2: that's going to happen, but we know there'll be a

885
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Speaker 2: press conference at some point in time and we'll see

886
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Speaker 2: what answers are provided going forward. Gotta take a break

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Speaker 2: here when we begin our number two, We're going to

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Speaker 2: do that with ESPN NFL analyst Dan Orlovsky. We'll talk

889
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 2: about the AFC Divisional Playoff and where the Bills go

890
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 2: from here as far as head coaching candidates.

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Speaker 4: Go, we'll do all that with Dan. Next here on

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Speaker 4: One of the Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: These one Bills Live presented by Calledlida Helped all Right.

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Speaker 2: Tuesday Edition Hour number two Chris Brown, Steve Tasking with you,

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Speaker 2: and joined now by ESPN NFL analyst Dan Orlovsky, whose

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899
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Speaker 2: And Dan will start with the game that was and

900
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Speaker 2: then transition to the coaching decision that was made yesterday

901
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Speaker 2: and look, once again, Bills fans are up in arms

902
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 2: because the game's outcome, I think you could argue was

903
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Speaker 2: compromised by some officiating at the end of the game,

904
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Speaker 2: and the Bills once again are on the wrong side

905
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Speaker 2: of it. Admittedly, though the Bills did not play their

906
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 2: best five turnovers a glaring example of that. But I

907
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Speaker 2: guess we should start with the most controversial call in

908
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Speaker 2: the game, which was the Brandon Cooks reception slash interception.

909
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Speaker 2: And my point of view is this, he secures the ball,

910
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 2: goes to the ground, and then is tapped by the defender,

911
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Speaker 2: who ultimately wrestles the ball away from him. But as

912
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Speaker 2: soon as he's down on the ground and he's touched

913
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Speaker 2: by the defender, in my mind, the play is over

914
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Speaker 2: and anything that happens after that is immaterial or irrelevant

915
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 2: and doesn't need to be judged, ruled upon, or officiated.

916
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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's one that I'm still trying to figure out.

917
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Speaker 7: And I understand that it's a difficult play to officiate,

918
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Speaker 7: and it's easy for a lot of people freeze frame

919
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 7: all that stuff. What I don't understand about it because

920
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Speaker 7: everybody has littered the rules and the steps and all that.

921
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Speaker 7: It looks like Cook goes up, makes the catch two

922
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Speaker 7: feet down, hits the ground, and then as he hits

923
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Speaker 7: the ground, the ball is getting ripped out and the

924
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 7: ball never hits the ground. And so I'm trying because

925
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Speaker 7: one of the things that makes a catch a catch

926
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Speaker 7: is you have to make a move or an act

927
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Speaker 7: common to the game, right, you have to make a

928
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 7: football move. I don't know what the football move is

929
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 7: on the ground, like what would that be?

930
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Speaker 17: And so I.

931
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Speaker 7: Struggle to see. I don't know how McMillan can and

932
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Speaker 7: how long does he have to be on the ground

933
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Speaker 7: with the ball before McMillan does pull it away for

934
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Speaker 7: it to be a catch.

935
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Speaker 17: Is it a time thing? Is it a move thing?

936
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Speaker 17: There's no other body part that can hit the ground.

937
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Speaker 17: So I get it. I get it. It's confusing, certainly.

938
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Speaker 2: Not to mention the fact that Walt Anderson, in explaining

939
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Speaker 2: it on NFL Network the next day, felt that the

940
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Speaker 2: ball came loose immediately, and perhaps in real time it did,

941
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Speaker 2: but that's all the more reason to slow it down

942
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Speaker 2: and review it and see that he's down by contact.

943
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Speaker 2: And then we saw two other examples, one in each

944
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Speaker 2: of the other two games that day or the next day.

945
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Speaker 2: You know, in the in the Patriots game, Hutchinson hits

946
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Speaker 2: the ground, knee down, ball ripped out, He's credited with

947
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Speaker 2: the reception. It's a very similar play. And then you

948
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Speaker 2: saw in the Bears Rams game DeVante Adams. Yeah, same

949
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,919
Speaker 2: exact thing. Ball gets ripped out, his knee is down,

950
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Speaker 2: they rule him down by contact. And I think it's

951
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Speaker 2: the inconsistency, Dan that breeds the conspiracy among fans. The

952
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Speaker 2: inconsistency of the officiating creates the conspiracies that fans have

953
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Speaker 2: about games being rigged.

954
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Speaker 17: Yeah, totally.

955
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Speaker 7: I mean, and even in the NFL's language, it says,

956
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 7: you know, in the pass game, a tie goes to

957
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Speaker 7: the passing team. So there's a lot of that play

958
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 7: that looks like a tie and credit McMillan, But then

959
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Speaker 7: that would be ruled to the passing team.

960
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Speaker 17: And I know I've seen clips of life.

961
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Speaker 7: Well, I mean, there's a there's a ball where Cooks

962
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Speaker 7: is down the left sideline. He runs a double move,

963
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 7: not the one later in the game, but double move.

964
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Speaker 7: He gets hit like eleven yards and totally impacts the

965
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Speaker 7: throw and the connection, and it's not called for a

966
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Speaker 7: legal contact. There's a move where the defensive tackle for

967
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Speaker 7: Buffalo I think think it might be de Kuon beats

968
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Speaker 7: the guard. It's first and twenty. It's an incompletion, but

969
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,479
Speaker 7: he's getting his jersey literally on film you could see

970
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 7: three feet of jersey getting pulled.

971
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Speaker 17: No flag thrown.

972
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Speaker 7: And I understand, you know, I believe there was a

973
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Speaker 7: miss on a potential hold against Buffalo versus Denver, and

974
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Speaker 7: that doesn't get thrown. So yeah, it's that inconsistency, and

975
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Speaker 7: I understand it. I understand the frustration behind it. I

976
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Speaker 7: wish there was a different answer, but it's hard for

977
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Speaker 7: me to watch it and be like, yeah, that's a pick.

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Speaker 17: I think that I struggle with that.

979
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Speaker 3: Yes, one of the things we've said, in light of

980
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 3: the last twenty four hours here in Buffalo, it seems

981
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Speaker 3: that that kind of loss isn't as unique as each

982
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 3: one of these losses has becoming now that there has

983
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Speaker 3: been six of them. It seems more of a trait

984
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 3: and a characteristic rather than bad luck. Yeah, hence the

985
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 3: change at the top here in Buffalo.

986
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Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, I mean you know what I feel like.

987
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 7: For a couple of years now, it's been how do

988
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 7: they pull themselves off the mat and go at it again.

989
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 7: How do they get through September, October, November, December and

990
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 7: not have the demons of the past. And I think,

991
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Speaker 7: you know, Steve, like, there's a couple things that can

992
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 7: be true. One, you get into these games, and I

993
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 7: think it's easy for me to say this, but I

994
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 7: do think it's a reality of like, hey, don't allow

995
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 7: it to come down to the end like that with

996
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 7: your play throughout the game. Again, you're playing against really

997
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 7: good teams with really good players, So don't allow it

998
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 7: to come down to that. But at some point when

999
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 7: it comes down to that, don't you feel like at

1000
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 7: one time you might catch the break, so to speak?

1001
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 17: And so yeah, I think the way that they've ended.

1002
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Speaker 7: Almost what feels to be a deja vu type of experience,

1003
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 7: had to be a part of letting go of a

1004
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 7: I think universally thought to be very very good coach.

1005
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, really very good has not been good enough. And

1006
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 2: that's why the decision was made. Looking ahead now and

1007
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 2: seeing that Brandon Bean is carrying more authority in the

1008
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 2: front office, and we don't know this, but it would

1009
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 2: seem based on that new structure that whoever the new

1010
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 2: head coach is is presumably reporting to him, and then

1011
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 2: he's reporting to Terry Pagoula. Do you think that would

1012
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 2: if that is in fact the arrangement, how much could

1013
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 2: that whittle down the coaching pool in your estimation? How

1014
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 2: many head coaches do you think need direct communication to

1015
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 2: the owner?

1016
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that there's a couple of them, but

1017
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 7: they they're gone. You know, like Mike Tomlin isn't going

1018
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 7: to coach this year. He would have been somebody that

1019
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 7: I would have said that the cachet go directly to

1020
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 7: the owner.

1021
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Speaker 17: Jim Harbaugh.

1022
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 7: So again I think that like er John Harbark, excuse me,

1023
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 7: he would have been one, and it seems that he

1024
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 7: got that in New York.

1025
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 17: But I would imagine the other.

1026
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 7: People that at least are in that immediate thought for

1027
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 7: being in that role. It doesn't seem like they have

1028
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 7: maybe the background, the cachet, the at least past success

1029
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 7: to demand that. And so those are always unique situations

1030
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 7: that sometimes they work for places, don't work for other places.

1031
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 7: But I do know this, it's a it's a job

1032
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 7: that comes with a great situation but great expectation, and

1033
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 7: you have to go do what most coaches haven't been

1034
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 7: able to do anywhere, let alone in Buffalo. And that's

1035
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 7: you got to go win a Super Bowl to be

1036
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 7: a clear upgate and you know, certainly a place capable

1037
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 7: of doing it because of some of the talent obviously, Josh.

1038
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 7: But you know, there's you're walking into a very very

1039
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 7: difficult place to go and become better than the previous guy.

1040
00:58:59,440 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1041
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 2: And to that end, and you're talking about perhaps less

1042
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: cachet for a coaching candidate that would seem to indicate

1043
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 2: younger and perhaps less proven per se in a head

1044
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 2: coaching role.

1045
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Speaker 17: Yeah. Yeah, And it's a giant dice roll, it is,

1046
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 17: you know.

1047
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 7: And again I think this is a situation where you

1048
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 7: understand it, and if you've been around the NFL, and

1049
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 7: if you've paid attention to Buffalo, you can sit back,

1050
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 7: unemotional and understand the move while also sitting there saying

1051
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 7: is it the right move? Of course, you can't say

1052
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 7: that right now because you don't know who the next

1053
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 7: person is or how good they're gonna be. And there's

1054
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 7: no coach out there right now that's a better coach

1055
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 7: than McDermot, or at least has.

1056
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 17: Proven as Sean McDermott.

1057
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Speaker 7: Well, see, and so yeah, I would I would think younger,

1058
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 7: I would think maybe a different philosophy. And I don't

1059
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 7: know if there's truth to this, but Schefty reporting yesterday

1060
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 7: saying that there was at least a league wide belief

1061
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 7: that in those games the team played tight as those

1062
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 7: games went on, certainly post a thirteen second game against

1063
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 7: Kansas City. So maybe a coach that brings a different

1064
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 7: type of vibe in those moments. But you know this

1065
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 7: is all you know, throwing darts at a chalkboard type

1066
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 7: of thing.

1067
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you alluded to it a minute ago. The

1068
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 3: floor forget about the ceiling of that Super Bowl and

1069
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 3: the championships and all of that possibility with a quarterback

1070
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 3: like this, multiple championships, all of that's you know, sky high.

1071
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 3: The floor is incredibly high in Buffalo twelve. I mean,

1072
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 3: if the guy comes in goes ten and seven, he stinks, yep.

1073
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 3: I mean that's tough. And you got to know that

1074
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 3: when you when you sign your name, is that right?

1075
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 3: I mean, how that's what you're looking at.

1076
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Speaker 7: It's the same situation that you can literally go laterally

1077
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 7: to Baltimore. And I know that we often do this

1078
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Speaker 7: because of the quarterbacks and some of the shortcomings that

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01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 7: have happened for the teams in the playoffs. But yeah,

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Speaker 7: you're you're walking into a place that has has such

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01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 7: a high annual expectation of who are we These aren't

1082
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 7: goals anymore. Teams have goals win the division, you know,

1083
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 7: host a playoff game, get the one seed. Those are

1084
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 7: goals for twenty six teams. It's the expectation in Buffalo

1085
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 7: because of what has transpired over the last almost eight years.

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01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 7: And so yeah, this is a this is a very

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Speaker 7: on one side, a very appealing job, and on the

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Speaker 7: other side, you better be ready.

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Speaker 17: For the heat because if you don't go and.

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Speaker 7: At least get to the AFC title game, at least

1091
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 7: you are two years of failure. And that that's a

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01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 7: that's a that's a very tall mountain to climb.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh, roster wise, Dan, you know, looking at this and

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01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 2: where the Bills came up short, what positions stand out

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01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 2: to you the most that are in need of upgrades?

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01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, you have to get more dynamic on the perimeter, Yes,

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01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 7: you do, you know, and I know that they've tried,

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01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 7: you know, Palmer and Keon, but you have to get

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Speaker 7: more dynamic on the perimeter. I absolutely believe you need

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01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 7: more of a game changer and both parts of the defense.

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01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 7: You need a game changer in the front seven, and

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01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 7: you need a game changer and the back seven. So

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01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 7: you know, we'll see Maxwell not being healthy obviously was

1105
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 7: a big part of the playoffs.

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01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 17: But in Cohl's emergence.

1107
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 7: But I still think you need more dynamic playmaking on

1108
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 7: the back end, certainly a pass rusher that is going

1109
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 7: to be more commanding in those situations, and then more

1110
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 7: dynamic athletically.

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01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 17: But there's good bones.

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01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 7: I know a lot of people are like, man, this

1113
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 7: rosters just not great.

1114
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 17: I don't necessarily see it that way.

1115
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 7: I do believe that this is a good football team,

1116
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 7: a talented, talented football team that realistically is you know,

1117
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 7: a piece. I don't want to see a piece or two,

1118
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 7: but probably two or three additions if you hit in

1119
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 7: critical areas.

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Speaker 17: You know, are a.

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Speaker 7: Really good football team, really good roster. Obviously it's a

1122
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 7: very good football team. So I don't think this is

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01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 7: a you gotta you gotta tear it down to the

1124
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 7: studs or there's a lot of holes. I don't see

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01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 7: it that way as some other people do.

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01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 3: And one of the things that happens in these coaching

1127
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 3: service and now we see, you know, four of the

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01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 3: vacancies have been filled already around the league at the

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01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 3: head coaching positions. How big of a hurry do you

1130
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 3: have to be in your opinion, Dan.

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01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 18: Steve, my answer would be this, if the Bills and

1132
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 18: the Pagoula family and Brandon Bean decided to move on

1133
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 18: from Sean McDermott and did not know exactly who they

1134
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 18: were going to hire or the two or three people

1135
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 18: that were going to be from that.

1136
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 7: Pool, and then that's a massive mistake on their end.

1137
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 7: So I don't I don't think you have to rush this.

1138
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 7: But if they went into this blind and we're just

1139
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 7: gonna go and cross their fingers, that's a big, big

1140
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 7: miss misstep, And yeah, then you would want time to

1141
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 7: be of the essence.

1142
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 17: But I would be surprised that that was the case.

1143
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 2: Dan, thanks for all your insight all season long as

1144
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 2: you know, we appreciate it, uh, and we look forward

1145
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 2: to catching up we did in the fall again, So

1146
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 2: thanks for a full season of chock full of nuts knowledge.

1147
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 4: We appreciate it.

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01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1149
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 17: No, I love being on with you.

1150
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 7: Guys.

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01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 17: You guys are goes.

1152
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 7: Both good people, great football talk, and trust me, you know,

1153
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 7: even not being a Bill s fan, I feel for

1154
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 7: Bill's fans experience it again.

1155
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 17: One day, just keep saying one day.

1156
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, as they say, at least one before

1157
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 2: we die.

1158
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Speaker 3: Take care Dan, bye, guys. All right.

1159
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 2: That's Dan Orlovski joining us as he does every week

1160
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 2: during the season, and that's his final appearance of the

1161
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 2: year with the Bill season now over. But we hope

1162
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 2: to rejoin Dan, or have Dan rejoin us come next fall,

1163
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 2: when this team will have a very new look and

1164
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 2: attitude about it because we'll have a new head coach

1165
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 2: and presumably a new staff as well. Got a little

1166
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 2: time for some calls here, so we're gonna squeeze them

1167
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 2: in with a lot of people holding.

1168
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 4: We go to Frank in Attica next. What's up, Frank?

1169
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 9: Very good afternoon. A couple of questions for you. But

1170
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Speaker 9: before I do, kudos.

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01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 14: To number eighty nine. I was born in fifty nine

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01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 14: games at the rock Piles Monday night at seventy three

1173
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 14: opener at the stadium, OJ the whole my all time

1174
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 14: favorite player, Steve Oh.

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01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 3: Look a look at that, all right? Frank, you're my favorite.

1176
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 3: Go ahead.

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Speaker 9: I was also really impressed with that color horseman what

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Speaker 9: he had to say. Anyways, Yeah, question one, usually, from

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01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 9: what I know, when the coaches fired all the assistants,

1180
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 9: what's the status today as of today or they don't

1181
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 9: get fired of the new coaches. That's one I not listen.

1182
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 9: Question two. I know McDermott was on the NFL Competition Committee.

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01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 9: Now is that a seat that the Bills hold and

1184
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 9: Pagoula appointed him? Did he lose his job on the

1185
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 9: competition committee? I don't even know if you'd know the

1186
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 9: answer that one, but that's what I called to find out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Frank, I don't know if I can answer that.

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01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 3: Usually I would imagine you have to be working in

1189
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,919
Speaker 3: the league to continue that committee membership, although I don't

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01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 3: know that for a fact, and I know that there.

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01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 3: I think there are some committees who do have at

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01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 3: large members on them. I don't know that there's something

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01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 3: with them. You know, it wouldn't surprise me if he

1194
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 3: stayed on it, But I don't know. I have no

1195
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 3: idea if that's the case or not. Assistant coaches, yes,

1196
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 3: usually the usually the assistants coaches the coordinators, everybody gets

1197
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 3: swept out the door with the head coach. He hired them,

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01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 3: they're his crew, they're his staff, and the new head

1199
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 3: coach will he may interview a couple of them to say, hey,

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01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 3: you want to hang in there. I know you're the

1201
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator here, but would you mind being a passing

1202
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 3: game coordinator instead of the offensive coordinator? Or if you're

1203
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 3: the passing game coordinator we've worked together before, how about

1204
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 3: moving up? You want the OC job. That kind of

1205
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 3: thing can happen.

1206
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 2: They're usually in a state of limbo at this point

1207
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 2: in time where they know that they might even be

1208
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 2: told by upper management, hey, when we bring in the

1209
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 2: new head coach, we'd like for you to sit down

1210
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 2: with them because we would like to retain you going forward.

1211
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 2: And then at that point in time, what the coach

1212
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 2: is on on the fired staff inevitably ask as well,

1213
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 2: because they're still under contract, is hey, am I free

1214
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 2: to seek employment somewhere else? And obviously, if it's a promotion,

1215
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 2: they don't even have to ask. That's why Joe Brady's

1216
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 2: interviewing for head coaching jobs. But if it's a lateral move,

1217
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 2: usually they have to ask, hey, is it all right

1218
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 2: if I seek employment elsewhere? And usually the team where

1219
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 2: they're currently employed is not going to stand in the

1220
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 2: way of them getting employment elsewhere. They usually grant that

1221
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 2: because it's an opportunity for them and they don't want

1222
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 2: to stand in the way of that.

1223
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 3: Plus the team doesn't have to pay them the rest

1224
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 3: of their contract.

1225
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 2: Right and then, as far as the competition committee goes

1226
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 2: for Sean McDermott, a fired head coach can still serve

1227
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 2: on a league committee. Committee membership is determined by league

1228
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 2: or conference, not the team. So while a termination obviously

1229
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:45,600
Speaker 2: removes Sean McDermott from the Bills, it doesn't automatically invalidate

1230
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 2: their status within league wide governance, so they would so

1231
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 2: presumably Sean McDermott would retain his competition committee position.

1232
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 4: You know, he's just not head coach of the Bills anymore.

1233
01:08:57,960 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 2: We got to take a break here, more of your

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01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 2: phone calls when we get back here on a Tuesday

1235
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 2: edition of One Bill's Live, presented by a Lot of Health,

1236
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1237
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 4: All right back here on What Bill's Live.

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01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 2: First, Brown Steve to asker with you right back to

1239
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 2: the phone as we go where We've got a lot

1240
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 2: of people holding into Jordan and Lancaster.

1241
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 19: What's up Jordan, Hey you guys, good afternoon. How are

1242
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 19: we doing today?

1243
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 4: Okay?

1244
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 20: Good?

1245
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 13: All right.

1246
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 19: So I've been on whole form with an hour here

1247
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 19: obviously heard a few different takes on things, but in

1248
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 19: my mid thirties, not as well as some of the

1249
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 19: other callers here. But the only thing that I can

1250
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 19: think of here because I've been asking myself this question

1251
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 19: and respect you guys' opinion. I don't know if this

1252
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 19: was predetermined, if Terry thought and gave Sean ultimatum like hey,

1253
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 19: do it or don't and you're gone. But my mind

1254
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 19: goes to the defense, right, Sean was hired as defensive specialists. Okay,

1255
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 19: this past weekend, it wasn't.

1256
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 17: About elite QB.

1257
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 19: It was about defense.

1258
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:08,679
Speaker 20: It was about.

1259
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:14,679
Speaker 19: Turnovers like Seahawks three turnovers, Broncos five, Patriots five, texting

1260
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 19: three rams three. We didn't really have that. I wonder

1261
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 19: if that was the final straw, if he's sitting there

1262
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 19: watching these games and saying, hey, this is what you

1263
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:26,560
Speaker 19: were hired for, this is where we're at, and this

1264
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 19: is what didn't happen. Obviously, looking at my wound still

1265
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 19: from from this weekend again born ninety one, So I

1266
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 19: haven't really had a whole lot of time, but I

1267
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 19: appreciate Sean it's on wondering what you guys think on that.

1268
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 19: Obviously we're all a bunch of explanations here, So yeah,

1269
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 19: just your thoughts on that, guys, appreciate.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for the call.

1271
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 3: And I almost get the feeling that this we talk

1272
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:58,680
Speaker 3: about and and I think the the simplest explanation is

1273
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 3: probably the right one. Just they didn't want to see

1274
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 3: another season end the way the last six have ended. Yeah,

1275
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 3: And I think ironically, if you if and there's this

1276
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,720
Speaker 3: and we're getting a ton of feedback from the fans

1277
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,599
Speaker 3: about they don't they think Brandon hasn't given him enough talent,

1278
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 3: and Sewn has certainly maximized the talent they've had. And

1279
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 3: ironically it makes it look like because of the way

1280
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 3: they've lost these games over the last six years, this

1281
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 3: play one here, one, there, one there, all six of them,

1282
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 3: it seems like, well, it certainly had the talent to

1283
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 3: do it. What's going on here, Like we've had the

1284
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 3: conversation today that the interception slash reception that was miscalled.

1285
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 3: You think, well, you can't hold Sean responsible for that.

1286
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 3: It's happened like six times. Something's in it and it

1287
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:58,759
Speaker 3: and ironically, it's hard to say that the roster doesn't

1288
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 3: have talent when they get this every year and they're

1289
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 3: good enough to go to and win at all. However,

1290
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:06,879
Speaker 3: that in the case, the fact that Sean is getting

1291
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 3: a fifth round draft pick or a sixth round draft

1292
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 3: pick in Christian Benford and developing him into a shutdown corner,

1293
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 3: and Matt Mlano a fifth rounder into a top quality

1294
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 3: all Pro linebacker, and you know that Aaron Johnson, who's

1295
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 3: one of the best nickelbacks in the league. So you

1296
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 3: got all these spots where Sean McDermott has developed guys

1297
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 3: who nobody expected to be good to be good. So

1298
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 3: it's ironic that they look good enough to win the

1299
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 3: whole thing. And yet people are saying there's not enough

1300
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 3: talent on the roster. It's a double edged sword, and

1301
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:42,600
Speaker 3: people are conflicted. Well, some of people are conflicted over yeah,

1302
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 3: and you know they now today they're saying, well, because

1303
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 3: they like Sean so much, they're saying, well, it's bean,

1304
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 3: I don't know him so much, so I don't like him,

1305
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 3: and he's the one there's no talent, and you know,

1306
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 3: all the stuff that's being said, So I'm it's hard

1307
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 3: for us to sort through all the complicated things there are.

1308
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:05,440
Speaker 3: And I think my fallback, right or wrong, the simplest

1309
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 3: answer is probably the best. They needed change, and they

1310
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:12,640
Speaker 3: thought the change, and knowing what we don't what was

1311
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 3: going on behind the scenes, the best change was the

1312
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 3: one they made.

1313
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 2: And yeah, and as we know, it's a bottom line business.

1314
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:26,600
Speaker 2: And yes, Sean mcdermoy it's been extraordinarily successful as a

1315
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 2: Bill's head coach. You have six straight seasons of eleven

1316
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 2: wins or more. This was very good in this league.

1317
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:36,719
Speaker 2: Is not good enough.

1318
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 3: And it seems too And don't think that they didn't

1319
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 3: think about it. You know, Terry is sitting there thinking, well,

1320
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 3: should I let both of them go or should I fire?

1321
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 3: Don't think it was an easy decision either exactly should

1322
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 3: I fire this one or that one, or should I

1323
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 3: fire them both? Or should I keep them both? All

1324
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 3: of that was on the table, and he's been in

1325
01:13:54,640 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 3: countless conversations with both of them privately and jointly. He

1326
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:03,599
Speaker 3: made the decision, He made the call and I'm and

1327
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 3: he's the one who has sat there for over a

1328
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 3: decade and watched this thing play out.

1329
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 4: So and that's it.

1330
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 2: And Jordan, I'm not knocking your take about, you know,

1331
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 2: the turnovers that we saw this past weekend, but I

1332
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 2: think it's a little bit of an oversimplification. You know,

1333
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 2: the Bill's got two takeaways in the Jaguars game. They

1334
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 2: got only one that they handed right back to the

1335
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 2: Denver two plays later on offense. And this is a

1336
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 2: team that was number one in turnover margin just last year.

1337
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 2: So and if you look over the majority of McDermott's

1338
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 2: tenure here, the team has been in the top five

1339
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:46,640
Speaker 2: in total takeaways I want to say three or four times,

1340
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 2: So that has not been a pervasive problem. They didn't

1341
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 2: get as many this year as they had last year

1342
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 2: or a couple of years previous. To me, it's not

1343
01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:00,080
Speaker 2: the end all be all. You need to have have

1344
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 2: a quarterback to go anywhere in this league, and if

1345
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 2: you don't get the quarterback play, more often than not,

1346
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 2: you do not advance. And sadly, as much as we

1347
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 2: all love Josh Allen, his play was not up to

1348
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 2: the standard of what we typically see from Josh, and

1349
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 2: I think that's why he was so distraught after the game.

1350
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:21,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be different. It'll be interesting to see the

1351
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 3: differences in how they handle personnel going forward and not

1352
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 3: counting anything, but the new head coach is going to

1353
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 3: have a say in that and it will be different

1354
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 3: or his opinions will be different than the ones McDermott

1355
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 3: had when he was here. And how that plays out,

1356
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:41,640
Speaker 3: and the differences may highlight that whatever he liked or

1357
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 3: disliked about the roster he had. Did they draft guys

1358
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 3: because Sean wanted that guy, They give him choices and

1359
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 3: he drafted. Or was Brandon the guy who said, no,

1360
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 3: I want this guy and this guy he's better, you know,

1361
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:58,440
Speaker 3: and he didn't care all that stuff. Those are conversations

1362
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 3: that happened. Also, scouts have voys is in that as well,

1363
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 3: so there's a lot of voices in the room. But

1364
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 3: ultimately everybody, all the high level people in that room,

1365
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 3: starting with Terry, have a say in who they draft

1366
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 3: and how it goes. I don't know first hand Terry.

1367
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 3: Terry's like, you guys, you go ahead. He lets them,

1368
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 3: He lets them pick their guys because he knows days

1369
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 3: like this happened like yesterday happened. He's not going to

1370
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 3: be the one to make the call and then fire

1371
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 3: somebody else for it. He's smart enough not to do that.

1372
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 3: Other owners don't care about that. Yeah, So there you go.

1373
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 4: Uh we go to Urban Elma.

1374
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 17: What's up herb, Good afternoon.

1375
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:45,600
Speaker 12: One of the most respected ex player, ex coach and

1376
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:52,480
Speaker 12: current media commentator is Tony Dungee. There's another similarly respected

1377
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 12: hall of famer I want to talk about today. Member

1378
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 12: of the Black College Hall of Fame, Mississippi Sports Hall

1379
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 12: of Fame, Elcorn State Hall of Fame, Southwestern Athletic Conference

1380
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:10,799
Speaker 12: Hall of Fame, Super Bowl twenty champion as a player

1381
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 12: on the nineteen eighty five Great Bears Defense Super Bowl

1382
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 12: forty one champion. As assistant head coach with head coach

1383
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:25,760
Speaker 12: Tony Dundee with the Indianapolis Colts, he led the two

1384
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 12: thy twenty one Bills defense to the number one scoring

1385
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:36,600
Speaker 12: and total defense. Currently assistant head coach with the Seattle Seahawks,

1386
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 12: Leslie Fraser. Bringing Fraser as the head coach, you would

1387
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:47,599
Speaker 12: still have a great culture and locker room and instant credibility.

1388
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:54,480
Speaker 12: You also bring along Clint Kobak currently offensive coordinator in Seattle.

1389
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 12: As assistant head coach, you get the innovative offensive side

1390
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 12: for Josh in the mentor role in Fraser, for Kubiak

1391
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 12: down the road, Fraser retires or kicks upstairs. In Kubiak

1392
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 12: takes over, Fraser has the pedigree and working relationship with

1393
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 12: Pagoula and Bean. Thanks for the platform.

1394
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure thing. I get where you're connecting all those dots,

1395
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 4: Erb I do.

1396
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1397
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 4: I just I tend to think that.

1398
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 2: The head coach is probably going to be on the

1399
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 2: younger side, and I also think on the offensive side

1400
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:39,959
Speaker 2: of the ball, because I think there is a genuine

1401
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 2: concern that if you hire a defensive minded coach and

1402
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 2: you have success and your offense is productive, that your

1403
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator is going to be turning over every couple

1404
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 2: of years, because there's a really good chance, even if

1405
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott was retained this year, that Joe Brady was

1406
01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:02,639
Speaker 2: headed elsewhere as a head and then you'd be looking

1407
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:06,759
Speaker 2: for another offensive coordinator and the system could potentially change,

1408
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 2: and that takes a learning curve. I'm just I'm just

1409
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 2: guessing here, But I would tend to think the odds

1410
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 2: are good that the head coaching candidates that are interviewed

1411
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 2: are largely going to be on the.

1412
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 3: Offensive side of the ball. How do you feel about it.

1413
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 3: I think that's where they're going to lean. Now, they'll

1414
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 3: interview anybody.

1415
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,599
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they're not going to interview any defensive candidate,

1416
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:34,640
Speaker 2: any candidates with a defensive background, But I would think

1417
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 2: the vast majority of them are going to be on

1418
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 2: the offensive side of the.

1419
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 3: Ball, unless that defensive Unless a defensive guy like Leslie

1420
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 3: comes in and says, yeah, I got Clint Kubiak in

1421
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 3: my back pocket.

1422
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 2: Right, But again, that's somebody that would and or mentioned this.

1423
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 2: You'd have to give them an elevation entitle because making

1424
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 2: a lateral move I don't think is a lock. You know,

1425
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 2: because he's already oc over there and see it.

1426
01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 3: It may be attractive to him to come to Buffalo

1427
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:03,680
Speaker 3: work with Josh and a team that's you know, that

1428
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 3: plays as as has the highest ceiling as this.

1429
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 2: One does, and a quarterback on a long term contract

1430
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 2: that is not the case with Sam Darnold.

1431
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 3: Right, So yeah, all of that's possible, and.

1432
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 2: We can't talk to any of those guys until next

1433
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 2: week at the earliest, and that's if they lose.

1434
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 3: I appreciate it, but h yeah, you're not going to

1435
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 3: wave your magic wand and you're not going to pick

1436
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 3: up like Mike McDaniel as your offensive coordinator and this guys,

1437
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 3: you're this guy and this guy. You're not going to

1438
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 3: get all three of the best the best candidate at

1439
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 3: every position that you want. It just doesn't work like that.

1440
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 3: If you know, it'd be nice if it did, but

1441
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:42,599
Speaker 3: it doesn't. And but it's I get your I get

1442
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:44,840
Speaker 3: your logic, and it's hard to argue with it.

1443
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 4: Yep, let's go to Dave in Lancaster. What's up, Dave?

1444
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 6: Just uh, my comments are real quick and simple. The

1445
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 6: coaches and defensive coordinators offensive coordinators are to get the

1446
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 6: players into the positions to make the plays and give

1447
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:07,719
Speaker 6: them those opportunities. Bottom line is, the players didn't produce.

1448
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 6: They didn't make the plays. You know, uh five turnovers.

1449
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 9: Yeah, they were in the game.

1450
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 6: But the players didn't are the ones that didn't produce.

1451
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm sorry to see coach go.

1452
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 3: So you'd you'd have them rather charge, You'd have rather

1453
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 3: had them fire Josh than Sean McDermott.

1454
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:27,800
Speaker 6: No, not not at all.

1455
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 3: What's all right? So what's your point?

1456
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 8: But the point is coaches, he did his job, he

1457
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:38,599
Speaker 8: got them in the positions. Uh.

1458
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:42,720
Speaker 6: You know, I I just he deserves a chance. I'm

1459
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 6: That's all I'm saying. Is I granted they couldn't get

1460
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 6: over the hump, and you know, yeah, I guess maybe

1461
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:53,639
Speaker 6: somebody had to be sacrificed, you know. Sorry to see

1462
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:58,719
Speaker 6: him go. I wish him well in in whatever comes

1463
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 6: along his way. I'm just, you know, like I say,

1464
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 6: I'm just I'm just sorry to see that the whole

1465
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 6: thing going down the way it's going.

1466
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it's a it's always a well, particularly in

1467
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 3: this case. It's I don't know that Buffalo has been

1468
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 3: through this since Marv retired, Saying goodbye to a guy

1469
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 3: you know, that was that was beloved by his players

1470
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 3: and the fans and had at least a certain amount

1471
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:23,720
Speaker 3: of success without ever reaching you know, going to a

1472
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:26,599
Speaker 3: Super Bowl. Uh, and Marv never win in a Super Bowl.

1473
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 3: Same kind of thing, right, Marv retired, Sean was fired,

1474
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 3: but both. I mean, for a lot of people, it's

1475
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:39,639
Speaker 3: hard to say goodbye to him. You can begrudgingly give

1476
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 3: it up. Like I say, Okay, you know it's been

1477
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 3: nine years and we've never been to the super Bowl

1478
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 3: and the whole thing still hard day and it's and

1479
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 3: you've how long did the Bills search before they found

1480
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 3: a guy that could have this kind of success? And

1481
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:58,720
Speaker 3: if it's gonna take that long again, you're in for

1482
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 3: another couple of decades height of rinsing through this cycle

1483
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:05,720
Speaker 3: because not every I'll say that, not all of these

1484
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 3: candidates that's looking sound awesome are going to be awesome.

1485
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 3: You got to pick the right one, and it's not

1486
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 3: easy to do.

1487
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 4: To Ryan in Texas here, what's up?

1488
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 3: Ryan?

1489
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 21: Hey, guys, how you doing good? So I just had

1490
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:23,639
Speaker 21: a couple of things, you know, when I woke up

1491
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 21: and saw McCart was fired. You know, initial bus man,

1492
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 21: we made the wrong move. It's, you know, just just

1493
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 21: a bunch of emotions because of how he turned this

1494
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 21: team around. But uh, you know, one of my favorite

1495
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:41,639
Speaker 21: things he said was was he he kept a notebook

1496
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:46,560
Speaker 21: after the season for plays and things that you know

1497
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 21: didn't go right, maybe to overlook or to look over

1498
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 21: during the off stuff. That was like three seasons ago.

1499
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:58,760
Speaker 21: It might have been before thirteen seconds and I just

1500
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 21: felt like he never never learned from those mistakes, you know,

1501
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 21: like even like sixteen seconds before the half, this this weekend,

1502
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 21: zero timeouts, you need to go fifty hours to kick

1503
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Speaker 21: a field goal. I mean, you're not gonna win the

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01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 21: game with that. So just little little things that I

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01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 21: think if they get this higher right, maybe you know,

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01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 21: with a better game manager, we get over the hump.

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Speaker 3: Well maybe, but I'll say this, don't forget. They were

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01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 3: on a Christmas Day game in Detroit and it was

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01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 3: twenty second, twenty five seconds left. They got down into

1510
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 3: field goal range doing the exact same thing they have

1511
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 3: under Sean McDermott at the end of the first half

1512
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 3: time And I've said it a ton on broadcasts time

1513
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 3: and time again. They are masterful at ending the first

1514
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 3: half and getting points out of it and maximizing that

1515
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 3: possession no matter how much time is left. They were

1516
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 3: going to get a quick drive starter with I don't

1517
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,679
Speaker 3: know if it was the second play that Josh Fumbler

1518
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,599
Speaker 3: was the first the first. Yeah, So all they needed

1519
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 3: was a nice quick drive starter and they were going

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01:24:57,479 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 3: to be able to gun it down there. I and that,

1521
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 3: you know, alluding to Jordan from last castor that's that's

1522
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:09,720
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Herb from Alma. That's the players. You know,

1523
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 3: Josh just lost his handle on the ball. The guy came.

1524
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:13,559
Speaker 2: He can't be running with the ball like a loaf

1525
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 2: of bread. There right, go talk it away like a

1526
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:15,639
Speaker 2: running back.

1527
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:17,600
Speaker 3: The guys are fast, they're gonna catch up to you.

1528
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 3: And he didn't see the guy coming from behind him,

1529
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 3: knocked the ball loose. And then to add to add

1530
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:26,719
Speaker 3: bad luck or bad execution to another player, David Edwards

1531
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:29,680
Speaker 3: muffed his recovery all by himself in the middle of

1532
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 3: the field and biffed it and it kicked it over

1533
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:34,760
Speaker 3: to a to a Broncos fan. And by the way,

1534
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 3: you may not be able to win it on that

1535
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 3: play or that series. You can lose it.

1536
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 4: Yep. And that's three points and what ends up being

1537
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 4: a three point game.

1538
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 2: So gotta take a break here, We'll see if we

1539
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 2: can squeeze a phone call in when we get back here.

1540
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Speaker 2: On One Bill's Live, Stay with us all right, one segment,

1541
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:10,759
Speaker 2: you go here on a Tuesday edition to One Bill's

1542
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 2: Live in a squeeze in a phone call.

1543
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 4: Here we go to Tom and Lackawana. What's up tom.

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01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:17,759
Speaker 20: Hey, guys, I got about three things, so I probably

1545
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 20: won't have time. I'll have to call back on two

1546
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 20: of them tomorrow or whatever. I just wondered, what's the

1547
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 20: status of Laflour. Is his contract up? They're saying they're negotiating,

1548
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 20: But if Green Bay doesn't like to pay their coaches,

1549
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 20: what's the chances of Buffalo getting Lafleur? Is one of

1550
01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 20: my contents, And then the other one you sign.

1551
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 3: An extensionary's about to go ahead.

1552
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 20: Does he have one year left or I mean without

1553
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 20: the extension. I mean they're saying about to sign the extension,

1554
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 20: but it's not happening. So where there's smoke, there's fire.

1555
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe that's something you could look into. No question, what.

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01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:57,679
Speaker 20: Else I'd say, you definitely got to go offensive, and

1557
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 20: I don't want like but the main thing that Levy

1558
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 20: and McDermott had, you got to have a corporation, had

1559
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 20: somebody that can oversee the whole team and take care

1560
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:11,040
Speaker 20: of it. I don't want Dabo back. I don't want

1561
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 20: and I don't think Brady for I don't know how

1562
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 20: well he did even at being offensive coordinator because he

1563
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 20: didn't protect Josh well. Because I think part of the

1564
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 20: reasons Josh had a that bad game. He was beat

1565
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 20: the crap. So, you know, I think they got to

1566
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 20: go offensive, maybe a Kubiak or whatever. But you know,

1567
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:34,840
Speaker 20: it's got to be somebody who can oversee the whole

1568
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 20: team so that they don't wash out. They're not, you know,

1569
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 20: they're all saying, hey, Josh is already thirty windows closing.

1570
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:42,599
Speaker 20: That means they got to hit on this person. They

1571
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 20: need somebody who can oversee the whole team and get

1572
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:48,800
Speaker 20: the whole team to play the way they need to,

1573
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 20: not just in their area defensive or offensive.

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01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 3: All right, what else Tom has it?

1575
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 20: Let me see what. Oh And as far as being goes,

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Speaker 20: the only thing I'm worried about is for the last

1577
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 20: three years, Okay, two years ago, they spent a pick

1578
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 20: on a Bishop and he's now looked like he's working out.

1579
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 20: But he also could have signed another mid range guy

1580
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 20: like previously before when they signed Poyer and Hyde. They've

1581
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 20: been dying for a second safety and that hasn't happened,

1582
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 20: and he's I don't know, they better find somebody who

1583
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 20: can evaluate wide receiver talent because he's obviously signs people

1584
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 20: like Palmer and Samuel and whatever for millions of dollars

1585
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 20: and can't blame it all on injuries. None of those

1586
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:41,639
Speaker 20: guys are working out, gotcha.

1587
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:45,759
Speaker 2: Lafleur has signed his multi year contract extension that happened

1588
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 2: over the weekend on Saturday, so he's locked in for

1589
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 2: long term in Green Bay, so he's not available as

1590
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:54,639
Speaker 2: an option.

1591
01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:56,679
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1592
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 2: I mean, I can't argue with your comments about the

1593
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 2: receiver that have been signed here. The production just flat

1594
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:06,800
Speaker 2: out has not been there, and I would expect there's

1595
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 2: a good chance they're moving on from Curtis Samuel even

1596
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 2: though he has a year left on his contract. The

1597
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:12,680
Speaker 2: Bills can get out from under that this offseason and

1598
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 2: save some cap space, so they may in fact do that.

1599
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 2: Palmer's a different story. Yeah, he just signed last year,

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01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:19,559
Speaker 2: so I don't know if they can.

1601
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's the work on the roster won't be done

1602
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 3: in earnest until they pick a guy at head coach, right,

1603
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 3: But that's it for us.

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Speaker 2: On this Tuesday edition of One Bill's Live, Steve and

1605
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 2: I will be back to discuss this more and see

1606
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 2: if any head coaching candidates surface. Will keep our ear

1607
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 2: to the ground on that and catch up with you

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Speaker 2: tomorrow at one