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Speaker 1: And I showed you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

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Speaker 2: All right, Here we are with one of my favorite guests.

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Speaker 2: He loves me.

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Speaker 3: The feeling sometimes is not mutual, but that's fine. Data

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Speaker 3: Dish is delivered and powered by rap Sodo. We welcome

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Speaker 3: in Lance Bresdowski from the player development analyst at Marquee Network.

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Speaker 3: Let's get right into it and the pressure of the

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Speaker 3: Cubs are facing of the deadline. We spoke to Patrick

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Speaker 3: Mooney earlier of the Athletic and a Northside territory. What

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Speaker 3: are you expecting from them? And with that question, I

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Speaker 3: am going to Lance, I am just gonna disappear and

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Speaker 3: I am gonna let you and Trevor urn out for

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Speaker 3: the next twelve minutes, so you guys have a great time.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go grab a quick snack.

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Speaker 2: No, we need you here, man.

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Speaker 4: No, the feeling is not mutual. I love conversing with you.

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Speaker 5: I think we don't do a lot of the comboing,

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Speaker 5: analytics and old school together. I feel like sometimes at

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Speaker 5: our network too, I'm always like, no, don't play with

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Speaker 5: the analytics guy.

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Speaker 4: No, fench tray. I want to talk to the old school.

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Speaker 5: I want to talk to sarge Orgy Friggy Jenkins when

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Speaker 5: we have him at a Rick Stucklin and stuff.

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Speaker 4: So this is gonna be a blast.

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Speaker 5: But I didn't hear what Mooney said, but great reporter,

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Speaker 5: definitely respect all his perspective. I'm curious to see if

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Speaker 5: my POV's a little bit different. They have to go

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Speaker 5: get pitching, it's obvious, but I think to me, the

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Speaker 5: more interesting question is how, like what kind of pictures

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Speaker 5: do they value? Because Trevor knows as well, and I'm

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Speaker 5: curious with both of your thoughts, but what we get

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Speaker 5: publicly is a lot of like the residual that teams

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Speaker 5: internally model out. So when they have a picture they like,

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Speaker 5: it's not just like Jed Horror Carter Hawkins going no,

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Speaker 5: I like that guy, Let's acquire him. It's more than

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Speaker 5: looking at models. Those inputs driving their decision making based

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Speaker 5: on you know, value and such. And I'm getting to

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Speaker 5: the point where I have this half baked idea that

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Speaker 5: I wonder if the Cubs just don't like velocity because

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Speaker 5: I feel like every time they acquire anybody, it's someone

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Speaker 5: who doesn't throw hard and somebody who cuts the ball,

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Speaker 5: someone who throws like four or five pitches. They did

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Speaker 5: this in the draft as well. They value spin, but

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Speaker 5: it's always like, we're not gonna pay for the guy

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Speaker 5: throwing ninety five to ninety seven. We'd rather pay for

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Speaker 5: the guy ninety two to ninety three and a half

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Speaker 5: with you know, the seven percent barrel rate a little

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Speaker 5: And I feel like, you know, they've run into some

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Speaker 5: injuries this year which are clouding this perspective slightly, with

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Speaker 5: Kate Horton going down and Justin Steele being delayed and

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Speaker 5: some of these other guys. But they acquire Cabrera. You know,

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Speaker 5: maybe that's the counter to this logic. But David Peterson's

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Speaker 5: an interesting example. My big question here is just do

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Speaker 5: they actually go after someone at the deadline who throws

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Speaker 5: middle of the infield pete and centerfield, and they call

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Speaker 5: it a day in that perspective. So this is what

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Speaker 5: I'm talking about, right, This is percent of force even

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Speaker 5: sinkers thrown above ninety five miles prior this season, they're

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Speaker 5: thrown over two thousand fastballs called fastballs moving cutters ninety

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Speaker 5: some of these other clubs, they all throw hard, you know,

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Speaker 5: like the Dodgers are the team in baseball and the

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Speaker 5: Miners that have like an average fastball of ninety four

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Speaker 5: point five ish, which is like a full tick above

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Speaker 5: any other minor league gorg So, Trev, do you think

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Speaker 5: like they can actually succeed in the postseason not throwing hard?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's I think the velocity is important.

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Speaker 6: Mentioned something you said like do they just not want

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Speaker 6: to pay for people that that the pay the throw hard?

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Speaker 6: I feel like more there's more guys who throw up

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Speaker 6: like there's a there's so many of them that that

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Speaker 6: one right back at you to answer your question real quickly. Now,

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Speaker 6: I think that you need velocity somewhere. You need you

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Speaker 6: I know Palencia throws really hard and and and and stuff,

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Speaker 6: but like you know, you should, you should you need

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Speaker 1: I think it's always been that way too.

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Speaker 6: You know, even even back in the day, you still

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Speaker 6: wanted some guys who could throw harder and some guys

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Speaker 1: And and what that is is what's interesting and in

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Speaker 6: That side of things, because we know justin Steele, he

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Speaker 6: throws all his pitches. It's the same grip. He's got

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Speaker 6: this feel thing going. I would say the same thing

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Speaker 6: about Boyd. I would say the same thing about a Managa.

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Speaker 6: Like these guys they're like unique in the way that

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Speaker 6: and the uniqueness might be that, like they're just different

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Speaker 6: I wanted your take on that, like they do. You

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Speaker 6: mentioned the draft, and you've been following the draft very closely.

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Speaker 6: Would that apply to those guys as well in your opinion?

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Speaker 6: Or are they like guys with just nice arsenals that

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Speaker 6: you could find anywhere that are risks soaring ninety two

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Speaker 5: They have the heaviest tendency in the miners to cut

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Speaker 5: they definitely prize like the ability to get on side

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Speaker 5: like the mix is just largerly able to seem shift

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Speaker 5: one of these guys has like a sweeper above eighty

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Speaker 5: that was the overarching tendency. Kay townsend their first round

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Speaker 5: an eighty five mile prior sweeper. I think almost like

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Speaker 2: I haven't looked through.

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Speaker 5: I think the back two guys, I'm thinking they're but

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Speaker 5: clearly what they value, and I think that's a fair

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Speaker 5: the guys that throw sinkers, and maybe that backs into

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Speaker 5: wonder almost whether the anti velo approach in certain arms,

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Speaker 5: but like a dollar per war thing, Like you're talking

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Speaker 5: you have so many teams constantly vying for all those arms,

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Speaker 5: whether they're like, we're just gonna go from a dollar

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Speaker 5: his career, on a dollar per war basis, there is

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Speaker 5: a better chance of returning a surplus as opposed to

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Speaker 5: I understand the counters here, irare Daniel Plentzi's hurt, Cad

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Speaker 5: and I'm not entire really sure. I just want to

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Speaker 5: so he'd be an obvious exclusion to this rule if

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Speaker 4: Like, oh, yeah, you're ball on ground.

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Speaker 5: You know, you spin the ball really well, and we're

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Speaker 5: that number two starter, it's either Edward Cabrera comes back

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Speaker 5: I mean, we're always going to push great starters to

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Speaker 5: they pulled the trigger and ten year innniversary of twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 5: like that team went out and made some moves. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I hope that the reunion they had recently maybe spurred

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Speaker 6: He's gonna be owed and then you get him for

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Speaker 4: I don't have no idea if the conversations are ongoing

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Speaker 4: Go get something?

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Speaker 6: See, this is why we love having you on Lance

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Speaker 1: You could have made like half those names up. We

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Speaker 3: God, I think he did, Trevor, I don't any of

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Speaker 4: No, I said, let's do it.

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Speaker 6: Let's talk about pitching labs. Aja's favorite thing in the

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Speaker 5: Had some director of pitching the other day tell me

439
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Speaker 5: every arm is either hurt or about to be hurt,

440
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Speaker 5: So it's a little bit hard to like look at

441
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Speaker 5: the last two months and be like, well Freed was

442
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Speaker 5: on the al It's like, okay, Well, also, how about

443
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Speaker 5: Cam Schlitzer adding seven miles per hour, you know, and

444
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Speaker 5: still healthy, Like everyone told me he was gonna blow out.

445
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Speaker 5: That kid might win the al cy hung right now,

446
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Speaker 5: you know. So I think it's personally Yankees, but I

447
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Speaker 5: think it's a fourteen debate at this present moment. I

448
00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,280
Speaker 5: also would throw in the Guardians and the Rays. The

449
00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,080
Speaker 5: Rays I think are just so sneaky with acquisition and

450
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Speaker 5: roster construction and like like pitching staff construction. They're always

451
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Speaker 5: a team that's considered a little behind on the biomech side,

452
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Speaker 5: and like ken Max and how a body moves and

453
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Speaker 5: integrating that back to ball flight. I never hear them

454
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Speaker 5: at the top of that list, but they do the

455
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Speaker 5: ballflight stuff so well that I think a lot of

456
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Speaker 5: people kind of don't blame them for not being great

457
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Speaker 5: on the body side. But this year they're throwing like

458
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Speaker 5: a bazillion change ups, a lot of right right change

459
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Speaker 5: ups too. So to me, this is this is like

460
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Speaker 5: clever and fun where it's like, Okay, we can't go

461
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Speaker 5: out and pay twenty five million dollars for a pitcher.

462
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Speaker 5: So let's go get Nick Martinez and Acchoir Brian Baker.

463
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Speaker 4: And throw them. Just throw.

464
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Speaker 5: Have these guys throw a pitch that always models out positively,

465
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Speaker 5: but the league just never uses. They're up at like

466
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Speaker 5: twenty one percent change ups here, right right, change ups.

467
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Speaker 5: They're also number one in baseball. I think it's around

468
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Speaker 5: like fourteen percent or so. So I love the Guardians.

469
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Speaker 5: I think the Brewers are good, and the Yankees are

470
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Speaker 5: good and the Rays are good. So like that's my four.

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to order them, but I would put

472
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Speaker 5: the Yankees up top, and I think I might get

473
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Speaker 5: some pushback just because the Brew's done so much amazing

474
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Speaker 5: stuff this year. But I'm curious what you guys think.

475
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Speaker 1: I mean, I I think you're you're, you're. Those top

476
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Speaker 1: four are definitely the right top four.

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Speaker 6: I think that a lot of teams do really, uh

478
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Speaker 6: do a really great great job here.

479
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Speaker 1: But here's my last question before we let you go,

480
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Speaker 1: because we've covered a lot of ground here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and this one's going to both Aja and you

482
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Speaker 6: because I think this is a really interesting thought experiment.

483
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Speaker 6: Uh just got done talking with our friend, you know,

484
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Speaker 6: Sarah's about usage and how a bunch of players are

485
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Speaker 6: just like just change usage of a bunch of bitches,

486
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Speaker 6: like over the last month. And this is pretty common

487
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Speaker 6: going into the break, like they see something like I'm

488
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Speaker 6: gonna I'm gonna lean into throwing this pitch, and a

489
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Speaker 6: lot of it's is pitching lab information. They like have

490
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Speaker 6: stuff they can act on. So my question is, uh,

491
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Speaker 6: let's assume that that you let Prime Greg Maddix go

492
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Speaker 6: and just throw in one just He's not trying to fix,

493
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Speaker 6: change or do anything. He just wants to understand, uh

494
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Speaker 6: like have more uh points to like if something changes,

495
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Speaker 6: he knows immediately opposed to like having to feel it

496
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Speaker 6: and get results to tell him. Right, say, Greg Maddox,

497
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Speaker 6: who is the professor, like he's named the professor, gets

498
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Speaker 6: this information and gets to go out.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that.

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Speaker 6: Greg Maddox would have made his adjustments through a start

501
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Speaker 6: pitch to pitch faster had he had access to being

502
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Speaker 6: in a pitching.

503
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Speaker 1: Lab that is both to Lance and AJ.

504
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Speaker 6: Do you think that Greg Maddox if he pitched now

505
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Speaker 6: and had just get to do it one time and

506
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Speaker 6: got to get that information that he would just be like, oh,

507
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Speaker 6: like I can, I can make these adjustments even.

508
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Speaker 1: Faster me or AJ first, go ahead, A J first,

509
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Speaker 1: I want to hear AJ.

510
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Speaker 2: I think he was just fine. I loved hitting off

511
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Speaker 2: Greg Maddicks.

512
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Speaker 3: So I think whatever Greg Maddox did, he should have

513
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Speaker 3: stuck with exactly what he did. Don't chanse the thing. Greg,

514
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Speaker 3: I love you, I loved titting off of you, and

515
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Speaker 3: I love hanging.

516
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Speaker 2: Out with so great.

517
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Speaker 3: Maybe, I mean, of course he would have done it

518
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Speaker 3: faster because he would add more information. So yes, but

519
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Speaker 3: you know what the best part about Greg Maddox was

520
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Speaker 3: he'd go like this and go I'd be like, oh,

521
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Speaker 3: here comes the RX bok, so get ready for the

522
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Speaker 3: change it.

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Speaker 2: That was my That was my key to hitting Greg Maddix.

524
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I agree with it. I mean I

525
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Speaker 5: think I think every picture would have been better. I

526
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Speaker 5: was asked the other day like like we had we

527
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Speaker 5: were talking to Rick Sutcliffe here and uh, and he

528
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Speaker 5: was like, I would have of course, I would have

529
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Speaker 5: been better, you know. And it's like it's like if

530
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Speaker 5: you have more information, like of course, you know, Like

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Speaker 5: I'm sure there were things even Greg Maddox maybe was like,

532
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Speaker 5: oh I wish I knew this or that, you know,

533
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Speaker 5: and if there's any data that could have progressed him,

534
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Speaker 5: then absolutely. I think it's a no brainer that a

535
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Speaker 5: lot of these guys. I think the interest the more

536
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Speaker 5: interesting question to me, if you cause I think if

537
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Speaker 5: you take any picture from the past and bring them in,

538
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Speaker 5: any great picture from the past, bring them into the

539
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Speaker 5: modern era, they would be successful. My larger question is

540
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Speaker 5: how many of those guys would have to add velocity

541
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Speaker 5: to be good because we've seen forcing fastball villa just skyrocket,

542
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Speaker 5: you know, like who's the guy from then? They could

543
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Speaker 5: have stayed at the villa they threw and if you

544
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Speaker 5: brought them into twenty twenty six, they'd still be successful.

545
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Speaker 5: I think the majority, vast majority would have to add villo.

546
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Speaker 5: But I feel like Greg Maddox might be the unicorn

547
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Speaker 5: where he could have just pitched, like you you time travel,

548
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Speaker 5: take him and put him in a game tonight, like

549
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Speaker 5: who has the best line? I think Greg Maddox will

550
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Speaker 5: be up there. It's it's just that's kind of how

551
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Speaker 5: I think of that question.

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Speaker 1: If that makes sense, that's fascinating.

553
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I thinking about which guys would have had who

554
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Speaker 6: would have probably added velocity, like uh, I know Pedro

555
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Speaker 6: couldet ninety eight, he would have been thrown in seven

556
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Speaker 6: ninety eight all the time.

557
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Speaker 1: He would have been thrown it the whole time.

558
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Speaker 6: And that's also like, if this were the way he

559
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Speaker 6: if this were what valued so as much when he played,

560
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Speaker 6: he would have done it, and he would have done it.

561
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Speaker 6: He would have been just as he would have been

562
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Speaker 6: Pedro still like, I'm I'm I'm of the same I'm

563
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Speaker 6: of the same line.

564
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Speaker 1: I think that's absolutely true.

565
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Speaker 6: These guys would have adapted the same way, and it

566
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Speaker 6: would have been pretty interesting to see.

567
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Speaker 2: All right, well, thank you Lance.

568
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Speaker 3: It's good to see Jake Bowers has become the player

569
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Speaker 3: he thought he would be four years ago. So thanks,

570
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Speaker 3: I can't believe he didn't. Okay, well that's that's usually

571
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Speaker 3: what they said. But thanks Lance. And whether you're building

572
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Speaker 3: a program developing.

573
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Speaker 2: Players are just guess.

574
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Speaker 3: Tired of guessing, go to rapsodo dot com and learn

575
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Speaker 3: more data wins rap sodo helps you use it.

576
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Speaker 10: We'll be right back. I get to it, I get

577
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Speaker 10: to injury. I feel like aj right now, I do

578
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Speaker 10: like I'm not as good looking but here with Trevor McGill,

579
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Speaker 10: closer extraordinaire, just elitist pitcher for the second half Brewers,

580
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Speaker 10: the league leading Brewers.

581
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Speaker 4: You guys have the most wins.

582
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Speaker 1: Did you realize that?

583
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean a couple of days ago, right, that happened.

584
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Speaker 9: It happened, They happened.

585
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Speaker 4: Does it matter?

586
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Speaker 9: Not really?

587
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Speaker 11: I mean, we we did it last year and you

588
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Speaker 11: know it fell a little bit short. So I you know,

589
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Speaker 11: I think the team's got our sites, you know, said

590
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Speaker 11: a little different this year, a little more experience.

591
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Speaker 10: Is there something different though that you talk about or

592
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Speaker 10: is it just well, well we have more experience, and

593
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Speaker 10: so when we go in and have a three game

594
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Speaker 10: series against the you know so and so, or have

595
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Speaker 10: a five game series, this is how we have to

596
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Speaker 10: attack it.

597
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Speaker 4: I mean, not for your bullpeng guys, but yeah, the offense.

598
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Speaker 9: I mean, I imagine.

599
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Speaker 11: So it's just you get to a point in the

600
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Speaker 11: playoffs where you know, you run into guys that are

601
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Speaker 11: you know, paid the amount of money they are to

602
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Speaker 11: pitch that way in the playoffs, and uh, you know

603
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Speaker 11: it's rant into three guys during that series.

604
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Speaker 9: So I mean.

605
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Speaker 10: Tip the cap to them, you know, I'm sure down

606
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Speaker 10: there in the dugout they got a lot of different

607
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Speaker 10: things they you know, they're going to do this yere,

608
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Speaker 10: but uh, you know, we're just in the bullpen and

609
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Speaker 10: join the vibes until it's time to you know, bitch,

610
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Speaker 10: So you just kind of handle our little r little

611
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Speaker 10: thing over there.

612
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Speaker 1: Hey, what's up, big dog?

613
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Speaker 2: Question for you?

614
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Speaker 8: Fifteen straight appearances without giving up a run. My question

615
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Speaker 8: to you is, because you know people out there, the

616
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Speaker 8: normal people are going to be like, is that on

617
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Speaker 8: your mind? Like how do you go in day in

618
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Speaker 8: and day out when you go in there, like it's

619
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Speaker 8: got to be in the back of your mind knowing

620
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Speaker 8: like I got to get this guy out. Man, I'm

621
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Speaker 8: trying to get this going. I think that's pretty cool.

622
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Speaker 8: You you've been doing fantastic.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, well we gave it one yesterday, so we're that's why. Yees. Yeah,

624
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Speaker 9: we're right. It was okay time. Yeah, we're right back.

625
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Speaker 9: We're right back to zero.

626
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Speaker 11: But uh, you know, like I mentioned on the network

627
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Speaker 11: the other day, is you know, we're kind of climbing

628
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Speaker 11: down from Evis Everest a little bit there at the

629
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Speaker 11: beginning of the season. So kind of when you got

630
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Speaker 11: an inflated the ra like that just zero's are your

631
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Speaker 11: friend and uh, you know, you got to get in

632
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Speaker 11: the good graces of your manager after kind of bought

633
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Speaker 11: a few there, so we just kind of kept our

634
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Speaker 11: head down and just kept grinding and the guys setting

635
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,959
Speaker 11: up everything after we got back in that closer role.

636
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Speaker 9: Just been fantastic and have been putting.

637
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Speaker 11: Me in positions to, you know, go out and get

638
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Speaker 11: says and help the help the team the way I can.

639
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Speaker 10: Is that tough when you I know, as a hitter,

640
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Speaker 10: if I look up at the I'm looking at the

641
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Speaker 10: scoreboard right now. The thing it's bigger every year. I

642
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 10: haven't been back here for eight years. But you look

643
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Speaker 10: at your status and you're like, ah, man, I'm hitting

644
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Speaker 10: like one fifty. I needed to go higher. Yeah, do

645
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Speaker 10: you look because you're running in your angle, you never

646
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Speaker 10: see your numbers. I mean actually, I mean right here

647
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Speaker 10: on the banner. So like if you peak your you

648
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Speaker 10: peak your veilo, you might catch a glimpse through your

649
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Speaker 10: ra A. I try not to do that.

650
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Speaker 4: What do you look at more?

651
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Speaker 9: I'm always staring at the field up.

652
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Speaker 11: They did have some metrics now up on the top

653
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Speaker 11: right screen by right field, so I'm able to kind

654
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Speaker 11: of catch a glimpse of what the heater Kurr balls

655
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Speaker 11: at for the day.

656
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Speaker 9: But yeah, I just try.

657
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Speaker 11: Just try to throw it in a good spot and

658
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 11: you know, let my defense work. Those dudes have been

659
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 11: killing for me this year, especially the last couple of outings.

660
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 11: Not many punch he's a lot of great plays. So uh,

661
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 11: it's it's always, you know, always the guy's behind me

662
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 11: helped me out them, you know, more than I'm probably

663
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 11: helping myself out.

664
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Speaker 9: So yeah, for sure.

665
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Speaker 8: I want to I want to talk about one of

666
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 8: your teammates, Jacob Mezarouski. I mean, this guy has been

667
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 8: absolutely dynamite. I know you're out in the outfield, you

668
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 8: can't see it. I know you've seen him throw before.

669
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 8: Just talk a little bit about how how good this

670
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 8: guy is, you know, can you explain to the viewer,

671
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 8: like exactly how far he gets that arm down there,

672
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 8: how lanky he is and just throwing over one hundred

673
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 8: and three hundred and four miles an hour, How incredible

674
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 8: that is.

675
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 10: Watching to play catch right now and I'm going to

676
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 10: hit it, like, can you explain what he was just doing?

677
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 10: Because he's playing catch? Out there right now when you

678
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 10: answer toimes question, but you can't explain what.

679
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 4: He was just doing there.

680
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 9: I mean, he's just getting some work in.

681
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 4: You know, he's throwing the ground balls.

682
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 11: Well, yeah, he's young, he's you know, he needs to

683
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 11: work a little bit. So that's kind of Charlie Green's

684
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 11: department to make sure everybody on the PfP side of

685
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 11: things is on the It's not though.

686
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 9: Charlie is a big part of our culture here.

687
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 11: You know, he drills it in from you know, the

688
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 11: beginning levels of our organization.

689
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 9: And when they get up here, things are expected.

690
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 11: But with Miserowski, I mean last year, still throwing hard,

691
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 11: you know, a little bit more sporadic with the fastball

692
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 11: and kind of where he is in the zone. And

693
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 11: you know, he made that one big adjustment of kind

694
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 11: of leaning over into his uh, into his setup a

695
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 11: little bit more, and you know, I think that's kind

696
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 11: of helped him be a little more consistent. And uh

697
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 11: now you're just kind of seeing him blow up the

698
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 11: zone with heaters and uh when William or Gary you know,

699
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 11: kind of senses it's time to throw a curveball, he

700
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 11: drops out on him and usually it works.

701
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 4: Do you see it when you're when this game starts

702
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 4: with him, do you see it?

703
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 10: And like WHOA, Like I can tell these guys are

704
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 10: not on it or can you see it? Like, oh,

705
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 10: you know what this might be? Somebody might need to

706
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 10: be ready in the in the fifth.

707
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 4: I get it. This year he's been eleague, but you

708
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 4: know you can sense that well.

709
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 11: I mean we've had a nice little couple of months

710
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 11: run where you know, it's Misraowski day. We're pretty much

711
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 11: kick our feet up till the seventh. So right now

712
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,239
Speaker 11: the team's you know, got them on a little bit

713
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 11: shorter of a plan just to kind of give him

714
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 11: a cool down before you know, September rolls around. But

715
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,959
Speaker 11: you know, it's just the work that he's put in

716
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 11: and just kind of the commitment to what he's doing

717
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 11: is very impressive.

718
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 4: Doesn't that cook you guys? I mean, knowing that he's

719
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 4: only going to go four like no, no, it's all right.

720
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 9: I mean it's just one day.

721
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 11: I mean he's picked us up for seventies multiple times

722
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 11: in a row, and you know, you post up like

723
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 11: that and you know team gives you orders to go

724
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 11: out and pitch seventy five for the day. Yeah, it's

725
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 11: all right. We're all here to pick each other up.

726
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 11: And and you know he's he's done it plenty.

727
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 10: For us this year or so, right, you know what

728
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 10: had Arnold looks like? Yeah, do you avoid him when

729
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 10: you see him in the hall out? Now, I know Matt,

730
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 10: he's like very cordial. He's an awesome dude. But do

731
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 10: you see him because it's a trade deadline?

732
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 11: Do you see him and go No, he's uh, that's

733
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 11: that's a one one GM president. So you know it's

734
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 11: there's not anybody that I've really comeing across yet. It's

735
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 11: like truly like him. Uh, always in the clubhouse, you know,

736
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 11: always seems like he's doing some kind of like team

737
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 11: building exercise with you know, his office for the coaching staff. Uh,

738
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 11: pickleballs are many things, you know, always playing pickle ball

739
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 11: at the staff.

740
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 9: So he loves it.

741
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 11: But no, he's not a guy that you know you

742
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 11: see walking down the hallway and you're like a ship,

743
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 11: we gotta you know, duck out of this Guy's what it's.

744
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 11: You know, he's such a good guy. You're on help

745
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 11: me run into him just to say hello. And you know,

746
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 11: as long as you enough fire and you're sending you

747
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 11: it's okay. You know, we joke around too, even during

748
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 11: our little downstrend there in you know, late April, middle

749
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 11: of April. You know, it's still cordial and you know

750
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 11: has faith in me, and you know it's just bumps

751
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 11: in the road.

752
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 9: You know, he understands that kind of stuff.

753
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 10: So that helps when your boss has faith a lot.

754
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 10: So yeah, it's just he's the one, one guy. It's

755
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 10: nothing like I've ever seen before.

756
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,440
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774
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Speaker 8: I want to ask about the challenge pictures. I just

775
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 8: found out about this that you guys as hitters have

776
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 8: just challenged two point eight percent of the pitches this

777
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 8: season that are challengeable.

778
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: Is there is there a reasoning for that? Is there?

779
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 8: Are you trying to save it in the later innings?

780
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 8: Do you know much about that? Are you just worried

781
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 8: about pitching?

782
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 9: Hire low low Low Gary?

783
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 11: Ease up a lot of those things. Man, He's usually

784
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 11: right too, El Gary, El Gary just challenging.

785
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 4: Just does know.

786
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 9: I likes challenging more than cracking, man.

787
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 11: But he's been on it this year, and you know,

788
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 11: I just flipped a lot of counts for himself and

789
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 11: for our pictures.

790
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 4: Just just check.

791
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 10: I mean, but do you sit out there and you go,

792
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 10: I'm one hundred percent following what El Gary or wild

793
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 10: Bill says, Oh, we're.

794
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 11: Not challenging his pictures nobody. No, it's we had a

795
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 11: challenger in the air and the phone got picked up.

796
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 11: Not to do that, you know, coming from Murphy.

797
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: So.

798
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 9: Me and William.

799
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 11: You know, if I we kind of have the relationship

800
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 11: to where if I throw a heater or curveball down,

801
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 11: you know, I'll probably I'll give him like a nod

802
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 11: real quick, like I want that, and it's up to

803
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 11: him to do it or not.

804
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 4: That's quick. That's a quick because he can't delay.

805
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 11: No, well, I mean he got three seconds, which is

806
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 11: honestly a lot more time than you think out there.

807
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 4: Does he give you this?

808
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 9: Nah?

809
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 11: I really, I mean I usually know if it's a ball,

810
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 11: but if it's a close one, I think we had

811
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 11: one who gets Miami. You know, I nodded my head

812
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 11: real quick out low heater and immediately hit the challenge

813
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 11: button and we want it. So that was that was

814
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 11: pretty cool. That's awesome.

815
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 10: I mean, do you do you feel like your pitches

816
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 10: change where people view them? You know what I mean,

817
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 10: Like you know where the strike zone is, but while

818
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 10: Bill's pulling it up, do you feel like yours planes

819
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 10: out more?

820
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 4: Somebody with the sinker?

821
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 9: Does that?

822
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 10: Do you feel like it changes, like like umpires routinely

823
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 10: missed a certain spot for you, and so you're like.

824
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 11: I feel like because you got so much carry on

825
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 11: all the ball sometimes and just kind of my height

826
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 11: in which I throw the ball to, I feel like

827
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 11: that down the down heater, the down curveball, especially if

828
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 11: it's a little bigger that day, Like, those are the

829
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 11: two that get missed the most. But you know that's

830
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 11: that's what we got challenged just before. Now, right, so

831
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 11: we get for sure.

832
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 3: Right, Trevor, does Murphy have a nickname for you?

833
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 11: I mean it was calling me Lance for a while while,

834
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 11: but uh, now we got I don't have no idea, man,

835
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 11: now we got Now he got mccoller. So I haven't

836
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 11: heard that one, but Charlie.

837
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 10: Charlie called me gorilla a few years ago and that's

838
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 10: kind of been the one since.

839
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 2: So but nothing from Murph.

840
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 9: I don't know he's Gorilla. I don't know.

841
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 2: It just stuck gorilla, don't you all know what the mcguilla?

842
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 2: Gorilla was a.

843
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 9: Little younger.

844
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 3: By the way, do you guys make fun of Murph

845
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 3: for his hip problem that he had when he had

846
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 3: that machine. He was wheeling that machine around with him everywhere.

847
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 3: Please tell me y'all wore him out about that.

848
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 10: So Wade Wade Bottom the wheelchairs what two three years

849
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 10: ago and Wade Miley was talking about he got it

850
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 10: like he used it for a couple of days, you know,

851
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 10: just to go along with a joke. And it's been

852
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 10: in the closet since. You know.

853
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 11: I kind of wish he would be on that thing

854
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 11: a little bit more, just save himself. But uh yeah,

855
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 11: I mean I give him a hard time every once.

856
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 9: In a while. He's the boss, though, so you got

857
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 9: to kind of keep it light, do you.

858
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 10: I mean, they build a platform for him, do you

859
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 10: worry about Murph? They build a platform in the dugout.

860
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 10: If you guys haven't seen it, like you got to

861
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 10: look it up. They build a platform right at the

862
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 10: end of the dugout towards home plate with a big,

863
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 10: high padded chair, not a regular padded chair, like a

864
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 10: high padded chair.

865
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 2: I think we.

866
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,439
Speaker 11: Lost that first game he sat in there. He went

867
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 11: right back to his cave, went right back to his But.

868
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 4: He looks like he's in pain, Like you can't have

869
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 4: your manager in pain.

870
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 10: So but if he's up there, he's getting picked off

871
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 10: by some you.

872
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 11: Know, and someone gets deeper and you know it's it's over.

873
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 11: But I don't know, man, he's I think he kind

874
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 11: of sets the tone on, you know, expectations with what

875
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 11: he's going through a little bit.

876
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 9: You know, he's out there.

877
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 11: He don't want to, you know, be taken off the fielder,

878
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 11: be taken away from the action. And you know, there

879
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 11: could be a lot said for that as well. You know,

880
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 11: he could just taken a three week hiatus, but he

881
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 11: chose not to. And you know, I got a lot

882
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 11: of respect for that.

883
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 2: He did.

884
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 3: Though he didn't he have something done at the All

885
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 3: Star break? Didn't he take the All Star.

886
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 9: Break off or the Little starbreak, got his.

887
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 4: Hip worked on or whatever he had gone?

888
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,479
Speaker 11: He took one day off. I think like his nerve,

889
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 11: his nerve block wore off and that he took that

890
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 11: rest of that day off. It was right back in

891
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 11: there the following day. So he's got a high pain threshold.

892
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 11: I'll tell you that is.

893
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 4: Go ahead, aj go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

894
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 10: I was just gonna say, what is the if you

895
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 10: were to put one thing on it, because we're talking

896
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 10: about you said about murph like culture. I tried to

897
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 10: explain the culture of the Brewers organization. What you know,

898
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 10: what goes on here, what I saw on eighteen, what

899
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 10: I know from the people that still work here. If

900
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 10: you were to say the one culture thing that you

901
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 10: see as a team, what do you think is the

902
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 10: best thing that you're like, this is what keeps the

903
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 10: boys together?

904
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 9: Just the effort, I think.

905
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 11: You know, there's very very few times where you know,

906
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 11: balls hit that ain't like one ten to the second

907
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 11: basement where they're like jogging the first Like that's a

908
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 11: great example of the outfielders always busting the ass on balls.

909
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 11: Just I think that kind of I would just always

910
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 11: joke with Merphs. It's like that collegiate mindset he has

911
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 11: is kind of contagious up here because you get away

912
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 11: from it a little bit. You know, you kind of

913
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 11: depend on the long ball, and you know, certain aspects

914
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 11: of the game like that and all the hustle plays

915
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 11: and kind of get lost throughout the league. And I

916
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 11: feel like over the last decade or so, and I

917
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 11: think that's kind of what he brought back to baseball,

918
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 11: was like the bunting and the small ball in the

919
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 11: hustle and just like the underlying grit and a player,

920
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 11: So that's I think this is the main thing.

921
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 4: But he'll also call you out for it.

922
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 10: No, because there was plays the other day where you

923
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 10: saw him he was pissed off it at Durang he did,

924
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 10: you know, he misread the hop and it got past him.

925
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 10: We've seen we've seen different pictures get called out. Yeah,

926
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 10: is that necessary because if you have the expectation but

927
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 10: never the call out, I think that it's very necessary.

928
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 9: And he's a guy that.

929
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 11: You know, if if it's warranted and it's you know,

930
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 11: an obvious mistake, like yeah, you kind of deserve to

931
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 11: get aired out a little bit. That's just it's we're

932
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 11: not really here for feelings. We're here to win some

933
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 11: ball games. And I feel like guys just don't take

934
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 11: it too personally. And a lot of people here, you know,

935
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 11: take that challenge and take it the right way. So,

936
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 11: I mean, I've been called out before plenty of other

937
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 11: people and that Doug I have been called out before

938
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 11: as well. But at the same time, like you know,

939
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 11: he's doing it because he's got expectations, you know, and

940
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 11: he wants you to be your best self, you know,

941
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 11: just just a little push.

942
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 3: Trevor can ask me win twenty games this year and

943
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 3: you guys call him the vulture.

944
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 4: He wants funny.

945
00:38:58,440 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: I mean.

946
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 11: Twelve still he's at twelve, still playing magic left in

947
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 11: the season.

948
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: I thought he got to thirteen. Did he not know

949
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 2: he's still twelve. He's stuck on twelve.

950
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 11: He's at twelve. But yeah, there's there's some magic left.

951
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 11: We'll see if he can get a few.

952
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 9: And flipping, do you.

953
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 4: Guys get him a hard time in the bullpen for

954
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 4: what AJ said?

955
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:18,919
Speaker 9: He's earned.

956
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 4: He's coming.

957
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 11: He's coming to a lot of down one games or

958
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 11: tiede games and you know, pitch two innings and this

959
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 11: is especially early in the season. He racked up a

960
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,439
Speaker 11: lot of those earlier where he was throwing two three

961
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 11: innings and uh, you know, I'd say, I say a

962
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 11: lot of those are are are earned, and maybe two

963
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 11: or three have been the Vulture. But now he deserves

964
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 11: every bed of that man. He's just a great leader

965
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 11: in the clubhouse. And you like to see cool ship

966
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 11: like that happen for good guys.

967
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 10: Right, do you let absolutely when the boys do well,

968
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 10: you're like, yeah, I want that? Is there somebody's like

969
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 10: roll in the bullpen that you're just sittingenamored by because

970
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,240
Speaker 10: Aaron's way different than you. Throwing from the left side.

971
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 10: He's got you know, he's not gonna go just an inning.

972
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 10: Is there somebody in the bullpen that you're like, Man,

973
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 10: I wish I had.

974
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 9: That, sir, and you got the rubber arm you could

975
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 9: just throw up, dude.

976
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 10: I mean, he'll throw two three innings one day and

977
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 10: like that would be up.

978
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,439
Speaker 9: The next day. I mean, he's he's just a dog

979
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 9: like that.

980
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 4: You watch him throwing, your arm gets sore.

981
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 11: I mean I try to keep I try my best

982
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 11: to keep it fifteen pitches, but uh you know that's

983
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 11: what we got full terrence for. Okay, But yeah, i'd

984
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 11: probably say Aaron man, the way he spends that baseball

985
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 11: and like his sinker, like it's just everything he throws.

986
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 11: His plus plus I always called it too sixteen because

987
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 11: that's a stuff plus score on a slider.

988
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 9: Things gross, Come.

989
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 10: On, you actually know what his stuff plus score is.

990
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 10: So what's your stuff plus score on your It's like

991
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 10: one thirty nine or so one thirty five, one thirty

992
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:51,919
Speaker 10: one for you on like.

993
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 9: My best best day. But uh no, it's like slider.

994
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 10: It grated out like a two thirteen or A two

995
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 10: sixteen last year and all that, and I was.

996
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 9: Like, damn, that's a good freaking pitch man.

997
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 11: It's like top top, top tier in the league two thirteen.

998
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 2: I love it, Trevor.

999
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Cratchy, thanks for grabbing Trevor McGill

1000
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 3: for us. If you want more Brewers talk, you can

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