1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Hut. 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 2: Let's go. 3 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 3: Let's go Giants on the Giants Bubbling, give me some job, 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 3: part of the Giants podcast Network. 5 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:10,159 Speaker 1: Let's row. 6 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 4: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Shuttle Podcast, brought 7 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 4: to you by Citizens Official Bank of the Giants. John 8 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 4: Smoke with you. We are in the Hackensack Merite Health 9 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 4: podcast studio, keep getting better, and today we're joined by 10 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 4: a good friend of mine, former NFL scout, a guy 11 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 4: I love talking draft with. Be done for a really 12 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 4: long time. From one O five through the fan in 13 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 4: Dallas and the Draft show on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 14 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: The one and only Brian brought us. Brian, what's up. 15 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: Man, John? It's good to be with you. It's what 16 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: is it like a tradition like no other. 17 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 3: We just got done with the masters, but here you 18 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 3: and I are talking draft together on the on the 19 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 3: Giants podcasting uh, And it's exciting. I love being with you, 20 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 3: I love visiting with you, and I love your insight. 21 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 3: And Giant fans are extremely lucky to have you covering 22 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 3: their football team for sure. 23 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I love learning from all your scouting experience. Brian. 24 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 4: And then the Cowboy fans are lucky to kind of 25 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 4: understand from you what this process is like. 26 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: And I always like to start a process with you. 27 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 4: So we're recording this the Monday, two Mondays before the 28 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 4: drafts are about ten days out from from week one. 29 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 4: Some teams probably have already had their scouts on and 30 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 4: their boards are close to finalized. Others are in the 31 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 4: process of it. What is this process like for a 32 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 4: scout in a GM as they try to put the 33 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 4: finishing touches on their boards. 34 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're into the final week. 35 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 3: Really, We've got a couple of these pro days that 36 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: are coming down or guys are working out, and I, 37 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 3: you know, with Will Johnson from Michigan, Dallas Cowboys are 38 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 3: obviously in the mix for you know, looking for a 39 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 3: corner if you ask me, you know, cornerback, running back, 40 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 3: wide receiver, defensive tackle. Those are all things that the 41 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 3: Cowboys are looking for. So they're interested in this Will 42 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 3: Johnson workout for Michigan. And I think everybody would like 43 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 3: to see a time on Will Johnson, you know, six' 44 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 3: two over two hundred. Pounds they would just like to, 45 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 3: have you, know, like, okay this is what his speed 46 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 3: is as compared to the other. Ones so you're kind 47 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 3: of holding on a couple of. Workouts you might be 48 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 3: holding on some, visits some thirty. VISITS i know That 49 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 3: Adam schefter was putting out today that there's some guys 50 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 3: that are still. Visiting we're getting to the point where 51 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 3: that's about to, stop you. Know so it's just kind 52 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 3: of really putting the finishing touches on some things that 53 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: maybe you were holding. On and a lot of, teams 54 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,399 Speaker 3: as you, mentioned you, know are in the process right 55 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 3: now of putting together of their. Board by the end 56 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 3: of this, week they should be done with. That and 57 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 3: then what you could turn your attention to On monday 58 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: And tuesday of next week is maybe going through some 59 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 3: mock drafts and. Stuff we all love a good mock. 60 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 3: Draft we hate doing mock, drafts but we all love 61 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 3: a good mock, draft if you know WHAT i, mean 62 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: and they will go. THROUGH i used to WHEN i 63 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 3: was with The, COWBOYS i would run the mock draft 64 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 3: of The. COWBOYS i was in The pro personnel, department 65 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 3: AND i would hand all the scouts team needs and 66 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 3: we used to take back in the. Day Rick, goslin 67 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 3: very accomplished writer from The Dallas Morning. News back in the, 68 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 3: day he used To he used to talk to almost 69 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 3: every general. Manager his mock drafts were, incredible AND i 70 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: would take his top one hundred list AND i would, say, 71 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 3: listen we're not going to draft off our. Board we're 72 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 3: going to draft off his, board BECAUSE i felt like 73 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 3: it was more indictive of what the league was. Thinking 74 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 3: rick talked to every general. Manager every general manager was 75 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 3: open to discussing players with, Him SO i felt like 76 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: that he had a really good handle on what the 77 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 3: league was. Thinking so it's really easy when you have 78 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 3: your own, board you could just kind, of you, know 79 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 3: this is what we think this, is but you have 80 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 3: to think in a way of what the league is. 81 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 3: Thinking and that's why WHEN i would conduct the mock, 82 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 3: DRAFT i take our board out of, it and it 83 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 3: kind of made a little bit of a. Difference it 84 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 3: gave it a little bit different flavor, that, wow maybe 85 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 3: we think the guy that's there is not going to be. 86 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 3: There so you take a top one hundred, list you 87 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 3: take all the team, needs and the scouts do a 88 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: really good. JOB i gave each guy a couple of 89 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: teams to, draft and away you. Went and so, yeah 90 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 3: it was it's it's things you just you don't want 91 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 3: to have any, Surprises, john that's the whole. Thing you 92 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 3: never want to get caught off. Guard you want to 93 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 3: make sure that your conviction of the player you're. Stacked right, 94 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 3: NOW i have evaluated two hundred and thirty five. Players 95 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 3: i'm in the process right now of stacking those from 96 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 3: one to two thirty. Five teams are doing the same, 97 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: thing you, know with there to try and get an 98 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 3: idea where if you were to lose a player right 99 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 3: ahead of, you somebody trades, up then, okay who's the next? 100 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 3: Player and you Know dallas And i'm talking from the 101 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 3: experience Of dallas here on A giants, podcast But Zack 102 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: martin was selected that. Way you, know they Lost Ryan 103 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 3: shazier ahead of. Them Jerry jones stood, up, says, Wait 104 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 3: Johnny manziel is still on the. Board Scouts Stephen jones 105 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 3: at the, Time Jason garrett, said, no, Wait Zack martin's 106 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 3: our next, Player, Jerry let's not get crazy. 107 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 2: Here so that's kind of where how this. 108 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 3: Works so you'll you'll you'll work your mock, drafts you'll 109 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: make your. Calls now you'll call all the teams On 110 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 3: my job in the pro person note department was to 111 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 3: call all the teams and, say, listen if you were 112 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 3: interested in trading back or, up we're. Open please give 113 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 3: us a. Call you, know we're not going to sit 114 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 3: there and not take your. Call so you throw a 115 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 3: lot of chum in the. Water maybe talk to some 116 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 3: guys here and there about who they think will go. 117 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 3: WHERE i, KNOW i got some really good intel From 118 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 3: John bruden one time about the way the draft was 119 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 3: going in front of. 120 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: Us one. Time he had had it wired pretty. 121 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 3: Good so he just use all your, sources all your, 122 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: resources and you try and make sure that you have 123 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 3: everything buttoned up to when you get to That thursday. 124 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: Night absolutely all. 125 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 4: Right you mentioned a quarterback there The giants and number 126 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 4: three are okay in terms of this. Year, Right if 127 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 4: you go into a year right wolves name Is, Winston you're. 128 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 4: Fine but you still want a guy that you can 129 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 4: develop down the. Road So i'm gonna put the hat on, You. 130 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 4: BRIAN i want you to walk into the draft. Room 131 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 4: i'm The giants general. Manager tell me why The giants 132 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 4: should Select Shooter sanders a third, overall assuming Cam ward 133 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 4: is going to be off the. 134 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 3: Board, YEAH i think the thing With sanders and, LISTEN 135 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 3: i went into this draft kind of thinking, that and 136 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 3: as much work AS i had done on you, know other, 137 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 3: players you do get to see quarterbacks throw the, ball 138 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 3: whether you're watching offense or. Defense you, know you're you 139 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 3: watch teams Play, colorado you watch teams Play Old, miss 140 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 3: so you get an idea of these. QUARTERBACKS i initially 141 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 3: thought that That Jackson dart was probably going to be 142 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 3: better than WHAT i thought was With. Sanders that wasn't 143 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 3: the case ONCE i went down to the. Start the 144 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 3: thing About Stuart sanders to me is that this guy 145 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 3: has faced more scrutiny than any other quarterback in the. 146 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 3: Country and he's. Poised he's, savvy he's. Confident you, know 147 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 3: you just go. BACK i Mean i've went back and 148 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: did Some Jackson state film on him just to, see 149 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 3: you know how he, uh you know how he's grown 150 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 3: as a. Quarterback he tends to throw his feet off, 151 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 3: balance but when he does set his, feet, uh the 152 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 3: ball comes out of his hand with some ace to. 153 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 2: It. Uh you, know he tends to kind of drift around. 154 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 3: In the pocket or back pedal too deep and you, 155 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 3: know maybe an unnecessary sack here and there on. That 156 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 3: but it's amazing how accurate he could be playing with 157 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 3: his platform being out of whack at, times and like 158 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 3: very similar to Camp ward At. Miami he'll make some 159 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 3: incredible throws moving to his. Left he has a feel 160 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 3: for how to get his hips, open his shoulder square 161 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: to the. Target he can you, know he can allow 162 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: these Simple he makes some simple throws and then he'll 163 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 3: make the most ungodly throw that you've ever. 164 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: Seen and this, guy AS i, mentioned is. 165 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: He he could he could beat you where THE i 166 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 3: think the arm talent is is. Good it's not in 167 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 3: the levels say of A Jalen milroe who has got 168 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: a cannon for an, arm but this guy. 169 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 2: Can it's. 170 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 3: Good and you, know he could beat you with his, 171 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 3: touch he could beat you with his, accuracy and he 172 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 3: could beat you throwing off platform and in THE nfl 173 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 3: to in this day and, age you, know it's that's 174 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 3: kind of where you need to. Be his quick, GAME 175 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 3: i think is. GOOD i think working With Pat, shermer 176 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 3: AND i know the probably giant fans are, not you, 177 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 3: know great to hear, that BUT i do think working 178 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 3: With Pat shermer has helped his. Game and you, know 179 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 3: there's kind of a playground element to his, game but 180 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 3: it works for. 181 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 2: Him AND i. 182 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 3: Think in THE nfl you have to have that ability 183 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 3: to be able to kind of playoff, schedule to play 184 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 3: off platform and be. Successful AND i think this is 185 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 3: what this guy has the capability of. 186 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: Doing all, right good. 187 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 4: Case now give me both sides of the and The 188 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 4: giants probably won't have this decision because odds are The 189 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 4: browns will pick one of these two. Guys if you're 190 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 4: sitting there and you're looking At Travis hunter and you're 191 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 4: looking At Abdul, carter or if you want to bring 192 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 4: a third guy into the, mix feel. 193 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: Free what are you thinking if you don't go quarterback number? 194 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 3: Three, Yeah and WHEN i started to stack my my, 195 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 3: NAMES i Had Travis hunter at the top of the. 196 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 3: Board now me, Personally, John i'm Playing Travis hunter at wide. 197 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 3: Receiver i'm not going to play him at. Corner, now 198 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 3: not to say THAT i won't do, that but this 199 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 3: is the kind OF i think he can affect the 200 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 3: game as a wide receiver more than he can as a. 201 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: Corner that's just just HOW i feel about the. 202 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 1: Player is that just because you would have his, hand 203 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: that he'd have the ball in his hands. 204 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: MORE i think. 205 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 3: THAT i think, that you, know you look at what 206 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 3: The giants were able to do with neighbors even last. 207 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 3: Year how you get him the? FOOTBALL i think that's you, 208 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 3: know you go into a game plan having an idea 209 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 3: about how you want to get your weapons. Involved AND 210 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 3: i think, that you, know you look at The bengals 211 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 3: and how they get their weapons. Evolved that's a tough 212 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 3: team to deal with when they have those two quality wide, 213 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 3: receivers AND i Think hunter could be the same. Way 214 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 3: this is my worry though About hunter playing both ways, 215 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: Though john he plays in a twelve game, season plays every. 216 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: Snap saw him. 217 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 3: AGAINST tcu on a miserably hot day here In Dallas 218 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 3: Fort worth over one hundred degrees play an entire football. 219 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 3: Game he is one hundred and eighty five pound. Guy, 220 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 3: okay he does that for twelve? Weeks could he do 221 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 3: that for seventeen? Weeks you're talking about will his body break? 222 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 3: Down you, know with having to play potentially five more 223 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 3: games and playing potentially both. WAYS i just feel, like to, 224 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 3: me when you get him at wide receiver or you 225 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 3: just use him as a, wide you train him just 226 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 3: to play that one, position and you, know some people might, say, well, 227 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 3: okay we'll use him some at corner or, whatever And 228 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 3: i'm you, know, fine. GREAT i just feel like though 229 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 3: the the where if you just made him a wide, 230 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 3: receiver he could be one of the. Best his ability to, 231 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 3: separate his ability to play on the, move his, explosiveness 232 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 3: his ability when they do cover him in tight red 233 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 3: zone and he gets down there and he can make 234 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: these acrobatic. Catches you, know it, is it. Is he's 235 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 3: got special traits and special. Talent you, KNOW i do 236 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 3: worry about him at one hundred and eighty five pounds 237 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 3: if they do want to use them both. Ways you, 238 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 3: KNOW i think he is going to get war. Down he, 239 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 3: again he's his body can handle the college, season can't 240 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 3: handle the pro. Season playing that, Well he's going to 241 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 3: lose weight as the season goes. Along play in that. 242 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 3: Way so to, me just keep him at that one. 243 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 3: Spot and you, know but he's got a. Chance like, 244 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 3: say the hands are. Incredible you, know people were kind 245 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 3: of making fun of the route running and stuff like 246 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 3: that with him and the. Workout there was some questions 247 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 3: about whether he was really going to work out that. 248 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 2: Morning the kind of put some things. 249 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 3: Together the routes didn't, look you, know as great as 250 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 3: what we probably you, know not maybe your traditional. Routes but, 251 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 3: Man i'll tell you what this guy you just watch 252 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 3: him down after down after, down make play after. Play 253 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 3: LIKE i, said the, separation the, hands the big, playability 254 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 3: the ability to find space when things break. Down that's 255 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 3: one of the things that make in my, opinion made 256 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 3: Sure Door sanders this guy THAT i thought was special 257 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 3: because ability to make plays on the move and what 258 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 3: a lot of the, time whether it Was, sanders h, 259 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 3: well it's. Gone whether it Was hunter Or horn or. 260 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 3: Others you, Know western those guys were making plays by finding. 261 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 3: Space and The colorado offensive line was horrible two years, 262 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 3: ago better this, year but still there were times where 263 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 3: he they had to make plays off. Schedule AND i 264 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 3: Think hunter is one of the best in the. Country 265 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 3: when it comes to, That he's my number one. Player 266 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 3: and on my draft, board. 267 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: How close do you Have quarter to? Him and Is 268 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: quarter your number? 269 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 2: Two carter's actually number? 270 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 3: THREE i HAVE i Have, Hunter shinty and Then carter 271 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 3: are my top three players in this. Draft AND i 272 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 3: think there is some concern with With carter just. Now 273 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 3: this is the disadvantage that we have in the. Media 274 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 3: we watch. Tape we sometimes we hook and crook tape 275 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 3: and we get onto a platform where we can watch 276 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 3: this tape and you could see the, tape but we 277 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 3: don't get to interview these kids unless they're in a 278 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 3: combined setting and we get to talk to them that, 279 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 3: way or we get to or and you don't get 280 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 3: to hear the. Medical, NOW i was talking to some 281 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 3: people about his foot and is this something that the stretch, 282 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 3: fractures this is something that could potentially show. 283 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: Up i'm just looking at the. 284 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 3: Tape i'm just looking at this is this is one 285 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 3: of my top three players on my. BOARD i personally 286 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 3: feel like The giants if they, go if they, go 287 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 3: if they Go Hunter Carter sanders, there THEY'RE i don't 288 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 3: think they can go. WRONG i just don't believe that 289 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 3: they can go wrong on their on picking these. Guys 290 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,599 Speaker 3: BUT i do think there's a little bit more concern for. 291 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 3: Me there's a couple of. THINGS a little bit more 292 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 3: concern for me With carter for the foot long. Term 293 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 3: even Though i've talked to a lot of trainers THAT 294 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 3: i worked with over the years and they, said, listen it's, Something, 295 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 3: hey is a, concern something you need to worry. About, 296 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 3: yeah it's something you need to keep in the back 297 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 3: of your. Mind i'll tell you something About. SANDERS i 298 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 3: THINK i Need sanders to slim down a little. MORE 299 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 3: i think then when you AND i say this in 300 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 3: physically and, HERE i live in a city and work in. 301 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 2: A city Where Luka dancic. Was that was the whole. 302 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 3: Thing if you're familiar with The Dallas, mavericks oh, yeah 303 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 3: they said it wasn't in shape and da da da da. 304 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 3: Da BUT i think that If, sanders if you go back, 305 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 3: and like, say you watch those, films you go back 306 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 3: and watch what he was doing At Jackson, state he 307 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 3: was a little bit, lighter a little bit more mobility 308 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 3: to his, game and SO i think maybe that maybe 309 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 3: some weight loss might help. Him they're still super super 310 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 3: talented the way he, plays all. 311 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: Right so final one on the top. 312 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 4: Three who's the guy that cowboy fans you think are, like, oh, 313 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 4: MAN i hope The giants don't get. 314 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: Him? 315 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: Hunter is? 316 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 3: It? 317 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: Hunter? 318 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah Well, Dallas dallas really Has dallas will have 319 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 3: a difficult time covering neighbors And hunter they'll, have you, 320 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 3: know they will teams around the league will have a 321 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 3: different difficult. 322 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 2: Time you, know you find a way you could, scheme 323 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 2: you could scheme. 324 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 3: Around Maybe carr Sand sanders would be tough, too, because 325 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 3: LIKE i, say he's, poised he's. Savvy the guy's a. 326 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 3: Winner you, know he's he's played under immense. Pressure The 327 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: giant fan base is one of the best The National Football. 328 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 3: League smart fan, base but a lot of. Pressure there 329 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 3: a lot of pressure to, perform you, know and you 330 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 3: know They the thing about it is That john this 331 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 3: is WHERE i think that maybe you could go with With. 332 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 3: Hunter and that's WHY i think they went and got veteran. 333 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 3: Quarterbacks and this is the unfortunate part of. FOOTBALL i 334 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 3: think the general, manager the head coach need to win. 335 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 3: Games they need to win AND i don't know if you. 336 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 3: Can can you wait For? Sanders can you throw him 337 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 3: in and expect what happened with The, commanders you, know 338 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 3: with with how they were able to navigate their, season you, 339 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 3: know with a rookie. QUARTERBACK i, mean that would be 340 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 3: your hope if you're A, giant stand that if you Drafted, 341 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 3: sanders that he would come in and be that type of. 342 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 3: Quarterback but IT'S i think they're in a situation where me, 343 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 3: PERSONALLY i think they go the best player Under carter 344 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 3: one of those, guys and then they turn around in 345 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 3: that top of that second, round think, About, okay what 346 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 3: quarterback might be. There they've got two quarterbacks. Already you, 347 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 3: know you could do far worse than what they've. Done 348 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 3: but maybe if you want to pick that quarterback in 349 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 3: the second, round or you just want to keep, going you, 350 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 3: KNOW i think it's important that they find a. Way 351 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 3: these general manager needs to win, games you, know and 352 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 3: get to you, know the ownership has been, supportive but 353 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 3: there comes a point in time where you need to 354 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 3: find a way to be more competitive and not be 355 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 3: picking third. 356 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 4: Overall The Johns Little podcast is brought to you By, 357 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 4: citizens The Official bank of The. 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HAPPEN i don't, know 364 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 2: But citizen. 365 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 3: Does it makes sense of your Money With Citizens Official 366 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 3: bank Of Eli. 367 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 4: Manning how do you stack that second group of quarterbacks 368 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 4: once you get Past ward And? 369 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 3: Sanders, YEAH i really. Do i'm a fan Of. Howard 370 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 3: NOW i got the. WAY i have my first round 371 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 3: grade On Ward, SANDERS i have as in the second. 372 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 3: ROUND i have fifteen total first round. Grades sanders is 373 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 3: the twentieth player on my, board and THEN i Have 374 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 3: Jackson dart at twenty, seven and THEN i like Will 375 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 3: howard down the line. There so to, ME i would 376 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 3: be looking at Now Jalen. 377 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 2: Milroe is, CRAZY i mean crazy. 378 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 3: Good and you know where you have to think About 379 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 3: milroe is can somebody help him with his? Mechanics but 380 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 3: you could watch him play Against george in the first 381 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 3: half of that game and you would be like. Amazed 382 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 3: then you can watch him Against wink Martin dale Against 383 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 3: michigan in the ball, game and there's some some issues. There, 384 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 3: Now Wink martindale took down a couple of big. Quarterbacks 385 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 3: he took down he took Down howard At Ohio, state 386 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 3: and he took down Mill roe At. Alabama but you, 387 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 3: know people have talked, about you, know with. McCord i 388 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 3: don't think Quinn ewers is in that group to, me 389 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 3: it's more Like Howard Milroe. Accord that's kind of HOW 390 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 3: i look at. THEM i Think owers is further away 391 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 3: from that. Group but you, know if you if you 392 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 3: had a, chance if you had a chance to get 393 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 3: A Will, howard or you had a chance to Mill roe, 394 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 3: McCord i think those would be very good options for. 395 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: You what do you think about The louisville Quarterback. 396 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: Shook i'm not a fan of his. 397 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 3: Age i'm not a fan of the huge knee brace 398 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 3: that he. WEARS i think to, me when you when 399 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 3: you look at his overall, play it is to me 400 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,719 Speaker 3: it's one of those things where the nothing against multiple, 401 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 3: transfers because we're going to see that as you AND 402 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 3: i continue on this, journey we're going to see players 403 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 3: that are multiple. Transfers, Oregon Texas, Tech. Louisville he's played 404 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 3: for seven seasons now because of multiple. 405 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 2: Injuries the thing THAT i worry. 406 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 3: About with him IS i do worry ABOUT i do 407 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 3: worry about his, collarbone which is A i think a. 408 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 3: PROBLEM i think he's busted in twenty twenty. One in 409 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 3: twenty twenty, two there are times when you watch him 410 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 3: throw the football where he flinches AND i mean flinches 411 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 3: like where he gets, back he sets and the rush 412 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 3: starts to come and you see him throw and get 413 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 3: down and maybe he's protected. Himself BUT i do feel 414 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 3: like that he is worried about his collar bone when he, 415 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 3: plays and you, KNOW i think there's some snaps where 416 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 3: you watch. Him his receivers didn't always help him with 417 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 3: the drops that kind of resulted in some. Turnovers but 418 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 3: he is a much better passer when, protected and in THE, 419 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 3: nfl you're not always. Protected AND i worry about that 420 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 3: as him for a, PLAYER i worry about is he 421 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 3: trying to protect a collar? Bone is that going to 422 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 3: be a problem going? Forward and you know he's had 423 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 3: LIKE i, say seven years older guy twenty six years 424 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 3: old already and they're gonna be In. 425 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 2: September those are all concerns for. 426 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 4: Me no good, answer all. Right you mentioned you have 427 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 4: fifteen first round. GRADES i, do all, Right i'm at 428 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 4: like I've Jihad, CAMPBELL i have not finished. YET i 429 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 4: do linebackers, last so either of sixteen or, seventeen depending 430 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 4: if he sneaks his way in. There that's fewer THAN 431 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 4: i had last, year probably by a good sixty seven. Players, uh. 432 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 4: Right you know the Way i've kind of termed this, Draft, 433 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 4: ryan you, know just go find a safe. Player you 434 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 4: know what you're getting out of, him that's going to 435 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 4: be a good. Contributor Dan jeremiah's called as a starter, 436 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 4: draft not a star. Draft is that how you would 437 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 4: look at it, too if you were doing? 438 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 3: This, YEAH i usually like you And i've been talking 439 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 3: for a lot of years about this, draft and we'll 440 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 3: have somewhere between eighteen and twenty three. 441 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 2: NAMES i used to have those WHEN i was in the. 442 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 3: League you, know there were TIMES i would look at 443 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 3: a board at eighteen first round, grades twenty first round 444 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 3: grades on a, board and that's kind of WHERE i was. 445 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 3: At but this is one of those unusual drafts WHERE 446 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 3: i had fifteen AND i only had one. QUARTERBACK i 447 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 3: have a lot of questions about some of these offensive, 448 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 3: tackles you, know and that's something in the past That 449 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 3: i've never really had a problem. With you, know there 450 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 3: was always offensive tackles that you felt, really really really good. 451 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 3: About here these guys have some. Questions are some of 452 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 3: these top tackles really? Guards you, know there was questions About. 453 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 3: Armlenk you, Know i've Watched Will campbell. Play i'm an lsu. 454 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 3: Alum i've watched him play his entire. Career you, know 455 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 3: he's had some really great. Games he's had some games 456 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 3: where people have got after him pretty good and it 457 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 3: wasn't about arm. Length it was really about him having 458 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 3: to make. Blocks, so you, KNOW i think that this 459 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 3: is an unusual. Draft i've never been a part of 460 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 3: a draft that has had this many running backs in. 461 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 3: It the edge is a very very deep. Class and 462 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 3: actually the defensive, tackles especially one, technique those three hundred 463 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 3: and twenty two pound guys that you, KNOW i think 464 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 3: there's going to be a run on them in this, 465 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 3: draft much like we saw last year the run with 466 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 3: the running. Backs there's going to be a run on defensive, 467 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 3: tackles these one. Techniques AND i was talking to some 468 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 3: scouts around the league AND i asked them about specifically 469 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 3: about running back and they were, saying, listen we every 470 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,719 Speaker 3: team is going to have this list. Different there are 471 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 3: some people that are going to Have they're going to 472 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 3: Have johnson Above, hampton my, Case hampton Above, Johnson henderson above. 473 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 3: Those you, know there's going to be all. Kinds whether 474 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 3: you like, scataboo whether you Like james where you Like, 475 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 3: samson they're going to Be nobody is going to get 476 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 3: the exact, order, Right it's just not going to. Happen 477 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 3: so depending on what you want at running, BACK i 478 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 3: think it's a, really really a good group in that. 479 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 3: Way so it's a unique draft more so like in 480 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 3: the middle of the board than it is towards the 481 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 3: top of the. BOARD i, mean this is the old 482 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 3: cliche that people always, say but, player you, know player 483 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 3: twelve could be the same as player. 484 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: Forty you, know. 485 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 3: That's kind of how THEY a lot of teams are 486 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 3: looking at this particular. 487 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 4: Draft all, RIGHT i would to hit on a bunch 488 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 4: of those positions you just, Mentioned but before we get, 489 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 4: THERE i want to hit your. Scout have you gotten 490 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,959 Speaker 4: to the bottom of why the arm measurements at the 491 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 4: combine were sol wonky this? 492 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 3: Year you know, what H i it's funny that you asked, 493 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 3: that BECAUSE i can't get anybody to. Admit now this 494 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 3: is where this is where things get a little. Strange 495 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 3: when you go to the combine and you sit in 496 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:35,959 Speaker 3: the heightweight measuring, room the hands and the. ARMS i 497 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 3: can't remember ever being in a combine where it wasn't 498 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 3: the same guy doing it every? Year and you wonder 499 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 3: if in fact that they made a, change did they 500 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 3: bring somebody else in? Differently and you, know the one thing, 501 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 3: is you, know look at the forty yard. Dash you 502 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 3: Know Mark korshak who's been the starter for the forty 503 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 3: yard dash from The Pittsburgh. Steeler he's the guy that 504 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 3: blows the. Whistle and if they did they, roll he 505 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 3: blows the. Whistle the one thing the combine always had 506 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 3: was consistency with. That so you do wonder did you 507 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 3: get a change well where this was The Singer bowl 508 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 3: wrong or was the combine? Wrong you know there was 509 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 3: a time too where the combine the vertical jumps were 510 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 3: off a ton from where you normally and your like 511 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 3: thinking forty three on that, guy you, know forty forty 512 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 3: on that. Guy you know there was a time so 513 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 3: you were worried about the. Measurements you were worried about 514 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 3: we're guys extending all the way. Up SO i can't 515 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 3: get anybody to say with certainty, Why BUT i have 516 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 3: a feeling that maybe we need to look at was 517 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,959 Speaker 3: there different personnel from where we've seen in the, Past 518 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 3: and it's what's happened now is it's made every scout 519 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 3: at every pro, day they do the, height weight measurements 520 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 3: and hand measurements and. Stuff but they've also now they're 521 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 3: in a situation where they where they've now having to 522 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 3: make sure that they redo all of them just to 523 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 3: make sure that they got what they feel is the right. 524 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: One, yeah it's, amazing all. Right so you talk about defensive. 525 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 4: Tackle cowboys are interested in that as, well so you've 526 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 4: done a lot of work on. Them The giants are 527 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 4: very much in the defensive tackle of conversation as. Well 528 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 4: they'd probably like to get one of thirty four if they. 529 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 4: Can BUT i almost like this little gap once you 530 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 4: get past that kind of first, group where do you 531 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 4: have your gap and kind of how do you separate 532 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 4: your defensive tackles down your board and when do you 533 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 4: start kind of getting those tears pop? 534 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 2: Up? 535 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 3: Yeah WHAT i think that depending on whether you're looking 536 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 3: for three techniques those are the outside shoulder of the, 537 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 3: guard or you're looking for one techniques those three twenty two, 538 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 3: guys you've got one of the best one technique players 539 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 3: IN nfl playing for, you so maybe you might be 540 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 3: looking at the three technique stuff, more is that kind 541 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 3: of where you're at on that or where where do 542 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 3: you feel like the giants are looking At do you 543 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 3: think they're looking at a big guy or they're looking 544 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 3: at orbit up the field. 545 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 4: Guy, YEAH i wouldn't be shocked if they doubled. Up 546 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,239 Speaker 4: to be honest with, YOU i can see them. 547 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 2: Drafted, okay, okay, Okay well then then we're in good shape. Here. 548 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 3: Uh you, KNOW I i think when you when you 549 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 3: start to talk about you, Know graham From, Michigan grant From. 550 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 3: Michigan you, know the one thing That i've learned is 551 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 3: and The, cowboys And i'm just speaking from The cowboys. 552 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 3: Stand they Took Mazzie, smith and they They mazzie was 553 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 3: really kind of a two. Gap and WHEN i say two, 554 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 3: gap you extend inside outside to get rid of your 555 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 3: guy and go with With uh With Wink martindale now 556 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 3: being the, coordinator and, again giants stand very familiar with the. 557 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 3: Scheme they're they're in a situation where he Got graham 558 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 3: And grant both AND i Think graham playing the three 559 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 3: technique is really really really, good and Then grant playing 560 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 3: the one you get pass, rush you get upfield. Play 561 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 3: Graham Grant Hyley williams From Ohio State. Harmon you AND 562 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 3: i have talked about about him From, Oregon nolan From 563 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 3: old MISS i THINK i think those are kind of 564 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 3: where of the five GUYS i know people have talked, 565 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 3: about you, know With, turner they've talked About walker From. 566 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 3: Kentucky you, know how does his motor? RUN a great 567 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 3: looking kid, physically but is he going to play. 568 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: Down after down after? 569 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 3: Down there's some questions they talked about he had a broken, 570 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 3: back things like. That But, Turner Alexander, Sanders Norman lott 571 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 3: hyphenated name From. Tennessee you, know these the guys THAT 572 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 3: i kind of feel like are going to be the 573 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 3: top defensive tackles in this. Draft and then you get 574 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 3: kind of maybe into where you, get you, know With 575 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 3: peebles From, Virginia Tech collins From texas is a really 576 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 3: really big. Guy west From indiana was very very good 577 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 3: in the in The East West shrine. 578 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: Game. FARMER i, mean they're they're. There it's a good 579 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 2: group of. 580 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 3: Guys BUT i kind of feel like though that you 581 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 3: can get really good value going all the way down 582 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 3: through the fourth. 583 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 2: Round AND i think. 584 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 3: That's WHERE i think that's where it's gonna you know, 585 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 3: it depending on whether you want the one or the. 586 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 3: Three if you want, BOTH i think you're a pretty 587 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 3: dark in. 588 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 4: Shape, yeah SO i think The Sweet show The giants 589 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 4: got that compensatory pick in ninety, nine then they pick 590 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 4: again a one o. Five to, me you should have 591 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 4: some really good defensive tackles that do both those things 592 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 4: on the. 593 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 1: Board with those two, picks. 594 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 2: You might be you might be a part of starting the. 595 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,719 Speaker 3: Run you got that, pick AND i might be the 596 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 3: start of the run for these defensive. 597 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 4: Tackles, yeah how do you Put collins Versus? FARMER i 598 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 4: Think Jamorey caldwell for, me is a little bit lower 599 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 4: down on the. Board And i'll Throw Dion walker in 600 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 4: there THOUGH i know he's a bigger. Guy he's more 601 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 4: of an upfield guy than than an. Anchor how do 602 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 4: you those one techniques kind of in that? Area how 603 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 4: would you stack? 604 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 2: Them, YEAH i really really. 605 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 3: Do i'm a fan of the group as a, whole 606 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 3: AND I i kind of WITH i got we Mentioned 607 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 3: Grant Williams. Harmon those are kind of up there for. 608 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 3: Me walker more like kind of a third round. GUY 609 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 3: i know that people probably have him a little bit. 610 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 3: HIGHER i just could not get over they sometimes playing 611 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,959 Speaker 3: sometimes not Playing, collins. 612 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: AS i mentioned From, texas he probably will go. Higher 613 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 2: west will probably go. Higher Paul, Well i'm with. YOU 614 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 2: i Have, Collins, West, phillips and Then calwell would be 615 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 2: that kind of that WAY i stack that. Group i'll 616 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 2: tell you this about with With collins and and he 617 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 2: is at you, know sixty six and three and thirty two. 618 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 3: POUNDS i mean he is A this guy's got, length 619 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 3: he's got the Mass i'm talking. 620 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 2: About i'd like to see him just a little quicker 621 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 2: off the. 622 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 3: Ball sometimes he'll pop straight up out of his stance 623 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 3: and he'll get right high off the. 624 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 2: Snap and he. 625 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 3: Really relies on his brute force as a player instead of. 626 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 3: Technique his pad level will kind to go up and, 627 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 3: down and he needs some work on that as well 628 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 3: as his. Hands but, man the power that he plays, 629 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 3: with he can, extend he can, control he can. DISENGAGE 630 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 3: i mean he he he could be awkward as a pass. 631 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 3: RUSHER i think that's kind of something he's gonna. Need 632 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 3: the body control and bounce can be. 633 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 2: A little bit all over the. 634 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 3: Place but his, effort his big play, potential all those 635 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 3: things are with him. THERE i, mean you can use 636 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 3: him on. Stunts, uh he's gonna be the post. Guy he's, 637 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 3: gonna you, know he's Gonna they're gonna have guys loop the, 638 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 3: power the, strength the point of. Attack there's, there's there's 639 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 3: all that is very very positive with With. Alfred With Alfred, 640 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 3: COLLINS i, mean AND I i think that to me 641 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 3: that he's got the physical traits that you absolutely can work, 642 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 3: with and and and and and some of the mental 643 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 3: ones as. Well but he's you, know you watch him 644 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 3: Against TEXAS a AND m Against. Georgia, man he went 645 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 3: up against a pretty good competition and fared very. 646 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 4: Nicely all, right, Now i'm gonna give you the group 647 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 4: of three, Techniques, Darius, ALEXANDER. 648 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: Tj, Sanders Chamar. Turner how would you kind of stack? 649 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 4: That AND i Though omar And norman lot into that mix, 650 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 4: Too how would you stack that group of? 651 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: Guys? 652 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 2: YEAH i Like. 653 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 3: TURNER i Like. Turner now people have people have talked 654 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 3: About turner a lot higher THAN i would have Take. 655 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 3: TURNER i Think turner is really a. Tweener BUT i 656 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 3: like the initial, QUICKNESS i like to change the. DIRECTION 657 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 3: i like his lateral. SPEED i like the. BURST i 658 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 3: think he's best when he could just play one, gap 659 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 3: just go just but he's a two gap. GUY i 660 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 3: don't think he's as. EFFECTIVE i think he got stuck 661 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 3: along the line of scrimmage and he had some trouble 662 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 3: getting away when he takes on double. Teams sometimes you 663 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 3: see some struggles. There but you, know he's one of 664 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:51,239 Speaker 3: those guys that you know when those, things you, know the, 665 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 3: motor the, effort it's all. THERE i, mean he Had 666 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 3: he's had some chances in some games where he's been 667 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 3: right there in the backfield and he couldn't make the 668 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 3: play that the Quinn ewers was at The texas, game 669 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 3: he's dropped. Back ewers is not the most mobile, guy 670 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 3: and he got away From turner right. There but you 671 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 3: know his his at six three and two hundred and 672 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 3: ninety pounds, though that explosive initial, quickness you, know and 673 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 3: the change of direction and the burst and all those 674 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 3: THINGS i think are super super positive for the. Player 675 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 3: SO i have him Above. ALEXANDER i Think alexander out 676 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 3: Of toledo is a really good. PLAYER i Love sanders 677 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 3: From South, Carolina Norman lot From. TENNESSEE i mentioned those 678 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 3: are all kind of guys THAT i. Have if you 679 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 3: said the three, techniques HOW i ranked, Them, Turner Alexander, 680 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 3: sanders And Norman. Lot i've got them all right there 681 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 3: kind of in that third round. Area there might be 682 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 3: a run on them where they all go in the second, 683 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 3: round BUT i kind of have them all in a 684 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 3: group there in the third on my. 685 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 4: Board, yeah giants have the first pick in the third. 686 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 4: Round THAT'S i think what might be a good spot 687 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 4: for uh, yeah for one of those guys before they all. 688 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 4: Disappear all, right you mentioned running, Back brian Oh, Man, 689 00:32:58,960 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 4: YEAH i. 690 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: Have let's a look at my list. 691 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 4: HERE i have thirteen running BACKS i think with with 692 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 4: WHAT i would consider starter graves in this class and 693 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 4: WHAT i love about the. Class and you mentioned this, 694 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 4: right there are guys of all shapes and, sizes, right 695 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 4: you Got if you want a, thumper you can get a. 696 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 4: Thumper if you want a, receiver you can get a. 697 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 4: Receiver if you can get a speed, guy you can 698 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 4: get a speed. Guy and, man it is just such 699 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 4: a fun group where you can find. STARTERS i think 700 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 4: you're gonna find a guy drafting maybe even at the 701 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 4: end of round four that might start for a team this. 702 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 3: Year, YEAH i think you're right BECAUSE i KNOW i 703 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 3: look down in my fourth, ROUND i have guys like you, 704 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 3: Know trevor at And, too you Know Neil neil From 705 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 3: Kansas gettings In Kansas. State brooks At Texas tech is 706 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,959 Speaker 3: a quality. Runner it catches the ball extremely well as 707 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 3: a really good, blocker kind of a complete. Back martinez 708 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 3: FROM uh From Miami There smith FROM Smu blue From 709 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 3: Texas blue would probably be higher on this list as 710 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 3: an explosive player as a, catcher route, runner stuff like 711 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 3: that if he didn't have some of the fumble problems 712 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 3: that he. Had but AND i Love alan From, SYRACUSE 713 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 3: I I i you, Know alan to me is kind 714 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 3: of unique in that, man he is one of those 715 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 3: guys he takes a, ball he goes straight ahead and 716 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 3: he's running until it's almost like he's seeking. Contact but 717 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 3: he is bouncing off people he's running, With he's finishing 718 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 3: with some. Toughness he's one of the guy that catches 719 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 3: the ball extremely. Well it's over sixty catches At. Syracuse 720 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 3: so you're absolutely. Right you all shapes and sizes in 721 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 3: that fourth. Round, uh if you if you want to 722 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 3: again on my. Board BUT i can even look down 723 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 3: in the fifth round with you, know With, Ali Gordon 724 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 3: hunter FROM uh From Auburn Crosskey, MERRITT i was another 725 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 3: Guy marx FROM, Usc mullins From. Michigan there there's a 726 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 3: there's a quality group of guys that that that teams 727 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,399 Speaker 3: could could. Tape and they all got varying traits as 728 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 3: we've talked, about but all really really good runners as. 729 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 4: Well how do you stack kind of the? Mat And 730 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 4: i'll go a little bit higher in the draft. Here 731 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 4: i'll Throw hampton into the group just because he's a bigger. Guy, 732 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 4: Hampton Caleb, Johnson, judkins Scatter. Bow how do you stack those? 733 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 1: Four? 734 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 3: YEAH I i personally, WENT i am a big fan 735 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 3: Of i'm a big fan Of johnson From. Iowa THEN 736 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 3: i Have, hampton Uh FOR i know this doesn't Help giants, 737 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 3: stands but they understand they've seen the player. BEFORE i 738 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 3: Think hampton plays Like DeMarco murray that when The dubts 739 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,720 Speaker 3: The Dallas cowboys. Days if you watch his running style 740 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 3: and The giants used to compete, against, well still compete Against, 741 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 3: colts but used to compete against The Marco murray similar running, 742 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 3: STYLE i, Think BUT i have. IT i have It, Johnson, Hampton, 743 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 3: henderson and there's a lot of. People there's a lot 744 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 3: of people that Have hampton Over. Johnson this is WHERE i, 745 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 3: LIKE i, SAY i, think then when you Watch Caleb 746 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 3: johnson play In iowa that ball gets to the you, 747 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 3: know people, say, oh he's just a one cut. Runner, 748 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 3: Well i've seen some tape where he gets to the 749 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 3: edge and linebackers and safeties have had angles on him 750 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 3: and he still just runs right past all. That you, 751 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 3: KNOW i love his, SIZE i love his ability to 752 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 3: catch the. FOOTBALL i love his. TOUGHNESS i love how 753 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 3: he just can kind of make somebody miss and then 754 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 3: if he has to run over, somebody he. Can But 755 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 3: hampton's right there as. Well BUT i See hampton like 756 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 3: A DeMarco. Murray if that Helps giants fans in their, 757 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 3: mind that kind of. 758 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 2: Back henderson is. 759 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 3: Outstanding henderson is, Explosive henderson catches the. Ball, Well henderson 760 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 3: is really really good as a blitz pickup. Guy and 761 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 3: you know him And jenkins are you, know kind of 762 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 3: a nice one two. Punch BUT i really think that 763 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 3: somebody is going to Get, henderson AND i don't think 764 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 3: you can wait around on him BECAUSE i think he's 765 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 3: closer to the top guys than he is maybe that 766 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 3: group THAT i just talked About, Sampkins, Jenkins, Harvey, Jones, 767 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 3: tutten And. Scataboo that's kind OF i think he's above all. 768 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 2: That that's WHY i have a second round great On. 769 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 4: Henderson all, right let's say on the offensive side of the, 770 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 4: ball how about the tight ends, Here, BRIAN i think 771 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 4: this is a very deep group as. Well And i'll 772 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 4: go past Leveledon. Warm we've talked about those guys a. 773 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 4: Lot that next, group how do you have like The, 774 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 4: arroyos the Fan, ins The, tailors and The ferguson stacked 775 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 4: in the middle of this. 776 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 3: Draft, yeah if you're absolutely looking for a tight end 777 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 3: at The giants at the top second, round you should 778 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 3: look At Mason TAYLOR. Lsu And i'm not saying that 779 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 3: just Because i'm in a lumb But i've seen him 780 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 3: play his entire. Career, again much like With, campbell this 781 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 3: kid is one of the most clutch. Players if you 782 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,720 Speaker 3: were to ask your wide receiver there About Mason, taylor 783 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 3: you will tell you what a clutch player he is 784 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,280 Speaker 3: when they needed first, down when it's third and. Thirteen 785 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 3: he's getting fifteen yards when it's down in the red 786 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 3: zone and they need to catch a big catch to 787 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 3: keep a drive. Going He's Mason taylor's going to make this. 788 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,720 Speaker 3: Catch you, know he's developing as a. Blocker his, size 789 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 3: his athletic, ability his, hands his. TOUGHNESS i have him 790 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 3: Over loveland. Myself oh, WOW i do HAVE i do 791 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 3: Have Warren. Taylor loveland would be my guys fan In 792 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 3: helm would be the round. LOW i really do Like 793 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 3: ferguson From, oregon AND i have him Over. ARROYO i 794 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 3: think that the thing With arroyo is interesting is it 795 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 3: took it took a ward coming To miami For arroyo 796 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 3: to get to get the note. Orioted and he deserves 797 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 3: as a player because until then he really really really 798 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 3: wasn't very. Much but that that is a that is 799 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 3: there's a good group of tight, ends you know when 800 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 3: you when you start to kind of break these things, 801 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,879 Speaker 3: down uh you, know AND I i really. Do there's 802 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 3: a couple of THOUGH i don't know what to do With, 803 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 3: gadsden uh from From. Syracuse you, know more of a 804 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,240 Speaker 3: bigger wide receiver guy than a tight. End but there 805 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 3: there's a it's it's a it's a quality. Group but 806 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 3: LIKE i, say IF i was looking for a tight end, 807 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 3: EARLY i know people Love warren and all rightfully, so 808 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 3: but keep an eye On Mason. TAYLOR i think he's 809 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 3: going to be a really really good. 810 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 4: Pro all, right Guttter, helm you mentioned. Him we even 811 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 4: talked a ton about. HIM i was a big fan 812 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 4: of Date. BRIAN i thought he had really good. HANDS 813 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,760 Speaker 4: i think he tries the. Blocker he's he's a taller. 814 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 4: Guy you, know he didn't test, well but he had 815 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 4: the ankle at the Commin So i'm not gonna go 816 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 4: nuts on. That you see a ton of him down 817 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 4: there In. Texas why are you such a big fan Of? 818 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,399 Speaker 3: Helm? YEAH i think this guy Is when you watch 819 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 3: him play down the stretch For texas in those playoff, 820 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 3: games he came up, BIG i mean really. 821 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,320 Speaker 2: Big and you, know. 822 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 3: He was one of those guys that the coaches challenged 823 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 3: him to be a better player or he wasn't going 824 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 3: to see the, field and he accepted that challenge from 825 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 3: them and went to. Work the approvement he made from 826 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 3: one season to next was super. IMPRESSIVE i mean he'll 827 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 3: line up all over the formation as you mentioned he'll 828 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 3: and function. Well he's got some slippery trades to his. 829 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,720 Speaker 3: Game as a route, runner he appears to find ways 830 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,240 Speaker 3: in order to free himself and kind of present himself 831 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 3: as a. Target he works, underneath he works across the, 832 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 3: field he works down the. Seams he's going to make a. 833 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 3: Reception he's had some huge receptions For texas during the, 834 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 3: season AND i really like the way that he's able 835 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 3: to kind of extend his hands away from his, body 836 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 3: snatch the ball and then kind of turn up the 837 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 3: field and get. GOING i don't think he's going to 838 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,720 Speaker 3: run away from, anybody but he does get north south 839 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 3: in a hurry to get all he. 840 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 2: Can as a. Blocker is technique. 841 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,800 Speaker 3: And functional streak will kind of limit him a little, 842 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,919 Speaker 3: bit as you, mentioned but he gives really really good. 843 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 3: Effort he just lacks sustain that's his biggest. Problem this 844 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 3: kid reminds me. Again i'm going to make another comparison 845 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 3: for The Dallas, cowboys but people have seen this player 846 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,240 Speaker 3: play Was Dalton. SCHULTZ i think it's a very similar 847 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 3: Player Dalton schultz that we had with The cowboys and 848 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 3: now with The Houston. Texans kind of a similar type 849 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 3: of guy that the way he, plays he's able to, 850 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 3: separate catch the, ball get what he can and can 851 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 3: be reliable in that. 852 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 4: Way i'm happy you're able to get over the athletic 853 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 4: testing on fan and these when you watch that guy on. 854 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 4: Tape all he does is get open and make. Plays 855 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,840 Speaker 4: AND i don't understand why people are are like doubting 856 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 4: him when he does it against you, Know Penn, state Right, 857 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 4: Texas like he just has a really good. 858 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 1: Tape. 859 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, no you're absolutely right about. 860 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 3: Him and you know the thing With fannin is that 861 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 3: to me that he is one of those guys that 862 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 3: it's sixty three two forty. One he's got good strength 863 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 3: and he's got agility in, space and you watch him 864 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,839 Speaker 3: catch the, ball he'll bounce off tacklers and get through 865 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,919 Speaker 3: a defense and he could be difficult to bring down 866 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 3: as a ball. CAREER i think he runs really good 867 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 3: routes to get his own coverage and off man, coverage the, 868 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 3: stems the body. Control there's kind of a three level 869 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 3: threat to him in the passing. Game you, know he 870 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 3: could get it underneath and the intermediate and then you 871 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 3: can also get it to him down the. Field but 872 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,280 Speaker 3: he's not a traditional inline, blocker and he just doesn't 873 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 3: have the power to really fight those. 874 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 2: Edges you, know those types of. 875 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,240 Speaker 3: Guys but as a pass, catcher line up in several, 876 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 3: spots matchup. PROBLEMS i, mean he's he's the type of 877 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 3: guy that kind of can turn your head a little 878 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 3: bit because of his ability to make plays the way he. 879 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 3: Does if you want to know how to manage two 880 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 3: minutes of crunch time, Football i'm your. Match but if 881 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 3: you're wondering about a long term financial, plan you should 882 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 3: talk To. 883 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 1: Citizens, HEY i can also talk long Care i'd like to. 884 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:26,919 Speaker 2: Learn about A milli. 885 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 3: Routine, YES i KNEW i could help make sense of 886 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 3: your money With citizens. 887 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 4: ALL i know you mentioned The cowboys would be in 888 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 4: the wide receiver business potentially at. TWELVE i, Wonder, brian, 889 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 4: though how much would it go into their. Thinking and 890 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 4: this is just you, know not necessarily them, specifically but 891 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 4: talking about the class for any team in. General this 892 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 4: is such a good day two wide receiver. Class you, 893 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 4: know you don't have the stars from last, year but, 894 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 4: MAN i have half a dozen guys THAT i think 895 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 4: you'd be fine picking in the second round that are. 896 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 1: Really really good. 897 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,840 Speaker 4: Players how much your team's gonna think just, LOOK i 898 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 4: can get a wide receiver a round two or three this, 899 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 4: year AND i feel pretty good about playing them in 900 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 4: as a starter instead of using a premium pick on. 901 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,359 Speaker 3: One, yeah the problem is that's Been dallas's And i'm 902 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 3: Using dallas again, here that's Been dallas's attitude for a long. 903 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 3: Time and you, know They Ceedee lamb fell into their, 904 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 3: lap but they legitimately they've been waiting. 905 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 2: On you, know they traded for For mingo From. 906 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,839 Speaker 3: Carolina you, know maybe that's their their ex so they're 907 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 3: big guy that they like to to kind of take that. 908 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 3: Role But tolbert has had moments where he's been really really. 909 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 3: Good in moments he's been really really. Bad but, Overall 910 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 3: dallas needs to find somebody to play Opposite Ceedee, lamb 911 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 3: AND i think this is a really good opportunity for 912 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 3: them in that. Way, again talking about The, cowboys you 913 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 3: know there could be a thought about that they have 914 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,799 Speaker 3: receivers that that don't separate great and don't have a 915 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 3: lot of. Speed but this is where you know you talk, 916 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,239 Speaker 3: about well would they draft tech. 917 00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 2: McMillan McMillan is. 918 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 3: Outstanding you, know it's not fifty to fifty ball with, 919 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 3: him it's eighty twenty with. Him you, know his ability 920 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 3: to go get it and create those opportunities is unique 921 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 3: and makes him one of the top wide receivers in the. Strap, 922 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 3: PERSONALLY i wonder If dallas is going to take a 923 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 3: shot At Matthew golden because he's different than what they. 924 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,840 Speaker 3: Have he has legitimate, Speed he is explosive, receiver he is. 925 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 3: Dynamic he's different from anything that they. HAVE i, mean 926 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,439 Speaker 3: you watch him run routes against secondary and you could 927 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,839 Speaker 3: see this the fear in the secondary as they play. 928 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 2: HIM i, mean he. 929 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 3: Crushes, cushion he can run through. Zones you, know he's 930 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 3: just one of those types of. Guys, again when we 931 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,719 Speaker 3: talk About, Helm golden made so many plays down the. 932 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,360 Speaker 3: Stretch so If dallas they might be in a situation 933 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:49,760 Speaker 3: And dallas brought, in. 934 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,320 Speaker 2: They brought in all the top. 935 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,920 Speaker 3: Ones but to your, point, YEAH i think this wide receiver, 936 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 3: crew if you look at second and third, rounds it's 937 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,839 Speaker 3: almost like the, run it's a little bit of like 938 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 3: whatever whatever flavor that you would. Like do you want 939 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 3: a tall, guy you want a possession, guy you want 940 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 3: a quick, guy you want a guy that could play 941 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:15,319 Speaker 3: all the. Positions, YEAH i just think In dallas's case 942 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 3: and teams that are looking for a wide, RECEIVER i 943 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 3: think that going early is not a bad. Thing now 944 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 3: with these Guys howard McMillan stack, up And golden stack, 945 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 3: up and A buka stack up And burdens stack. Up 946 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 3: with previous, classes they might be not the, first but 947 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,840 Speaker 3: maybe they would be third or fourth in the line 948 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 3: of these. Guys so, yeah it's a unique, group BUT 949 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 3: i think the quality of the players is clearly. 950 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:42,919 Speaker 2: There. 951 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:44,880 Speaker 1: Now i'm with. You how do you stack? 952 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 4: That that next group if you want to look it 953 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 4: around To brian the the The Jack besch is the 954 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 4: two kids Of Iowa, state nol And. Higgins, Yeah, Ray, 955 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 4: Harris Kyle. WILLIAMS i think you got a really nice 956 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:57,359 Speaker 4: group there. 957 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 3: Too, YEAH i really do. Like i'd Like besh a. 958 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,919 Speaker 3: LOT i am in your From stanford is another one 959 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 3: THAT i really. LIKE i LIKE i like royals From 960 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 3: Utah state in that. Group harris From old miss is in. 961 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 3: There Kyle williams From Washington state is a fun player to. 962 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,799 Speaker 3: Study noel a little bit of a shorter, guy kind 963 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 3: of have him behind some of those. Guys and Then 964 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,879 Speaker 3: williams FROM. Tcu So besh And williams both here from 965 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,479 Speaker 3: our backyard here In, texas in The Dallas Fort worth. 966 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,359 Speaker 3: Area but, yeah it's a it's a it's a it's 967 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 3: a good. Group and LIKE i, said you can you 968 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,359 Speaker 3: can kind of get. Down i'm not the biggest fan 969 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:40,319 Speaker 3: Of higgins just from speed, standpoint Because i've got him 970 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 3: and i Got bryant From. Illinois the guys that are 971 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 3: bigger guys catch the ball really really, well but kind 972 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 3: of put some guys with a little bit more quickness 973 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 3: and a little bit more speed up above. Them but 974 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 3: all those guys are good. Players nash From San jose 975 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,800 Speaker 3: is a really good, player And hudson From Central florida 976 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 3: is a really good. Player so, yeah there's it's it's 977 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,239 Speaker 3: a it's a good group of wide. Receivers but the 978 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 3: one that'll probably go Maybe harrows From old miss will 979 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 3: go Over. Besh but, Man besh is, super, super super. 980 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 1: Tough, yeah he was a great route. Runner two comes 981 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:19,719 Speaker 1: in down and break really well. Catches, yeah all, right. 982 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 4: Let's go to the trenches, Here, brian before we wrap things, 983 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 4: up you mentioned this at the. Start you don't have 984 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 4: to go through names if you don't want. To but, 985 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 4: man if you need to tackle in this, class good 986 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 4: luck because they're just not that many. There BUT i 987 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,440 Speaker 4: think you might be able to find some guards in 988 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 4: the middle of the drafted d one of. 989 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 3: Those, yeah you, KNOW i just give a pullback the 990 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,800 Speaker 3: current for your. Fans, here your. LISTENERS i Have simmons 991 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 3: From Ohio state Over campbell and Over. 992 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,399 Speaker 2: Membo. Uh and then those are my top three. 993 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:51,320 Speaker 3: TACKLES i Have banks and Then connory behind that, Group 994 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 3: ursay From, Minnesota trapillo From Boston. COLLEGE i really do 995 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,360 Speaker 3: Like Charles grant From. WOMEN i think that's kind of 996 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 3: A i think that's a sneaky good player that you 997 00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 3: kind of need to keep an eye. On and Then 998 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 3: lunt From connecticut as another guy THAT i really really 999 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 3: like a lot as. Well so those are kind of 1000 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 3: my top. Tackles i'll be interested to see Where simmons ends, 1001 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 3: up just because people are probably concerned about the. PATLLA 1002 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,400 Speaker 3: i was told, though from a couple of different doctors 1003 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 3: and trainers that the battella is. Fine you might not 1004 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,800 Speaker 3: have him for the, OTAs but he'll be ready for training, camp, 1005 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,360 Speaker 3: Okay and so that THAT i think is positive, news 1006 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 3: but he could very well end up kind of sliding 1007 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 3: down the board because people are worried about. That BUT 1008 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,800 Speaker 3: i think he's the most talented tackle in the. DRAFT 1009 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 3: i THINK i was talking to some people At missouri 1010 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:49,279 Speaker 3: About nimbou and just it's interesting that he is such 1011 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 3: a technician and a you, know when you watch, him 1012 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 3: he's hard to beat because of an athlete's athletic. Ability 1013 00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,160 Speaker 3: they just wondered if he could could have been, meaner you, 1014 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,839 Speaker 3: know and when you talk about you, know so there 1015 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,759 Speaker 3: are things with these offensive tackles that you could be 1016 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,839 Speaker 3: a great, athlete you could be. Tough but they, want they, 1017 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 3: said if he'd just be a little bit. Meaner so 1018 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,759 Speaker 3: keep an eye on that. One but he is a 1019 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 3: heck of a. Player you mentioned about the. Guards i'm 1020 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 3: interested to. SEE i personally Like Donovan jackson Over, Booker, 1021 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 3: Okay AND i like that just BECAUSE i don't Think 1022 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 3: booker could play left, tackle And i'm not all about position. 1023 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 3: Flexibility but to See Jonavan Donovan jackson go out there 1024 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 3: and really the second half of the season and through 1025 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,839 Speaker 3: all those playoff games and play at a high level at, 1026 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 3: tackle but also play at a high level Before simmons 1027 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,319 Speaker 3: got hurt at guard makes me feel really really good about. 1028 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,239 Speaker 3: Him booker's a hell of a player From. Alabama i'm 1029 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 3: interested to see where people are going to Play Gray. 1030 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 3: Sable are they going to play them at? Guard are 1031 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 3: they going to play them at? Center that's WHERE i 1032 00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 3: because this draft does not have very many. Centers and 1033 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,719 Speaker 3: McLoughlin From Ohio STATE i think is the best, one 1034 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,280 Speaker 3: BUT i don't have him in the first two. Rounds 1035 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,360 Speaker 3: he's very similar to what A Jason kelsey kind of 1036 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,400 Speaker 3: a player for me when you look at athletic. ABILITY 1037 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 3: i watched him At alabama a lot of his career 1038 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 3: and then watching him At Ohio state until he got. 1039 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,400 Speaker 3: Hurt this guy is super when it comes to pulling 1040 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,919 Speaker 3: and playing at second, level you, know and and doing 1041 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 3: those kinds of. Things So i'll be interested to see 1042 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:32,160 Speaker 3: how many of these guards moved to center to make 1043 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,480 Speaker 3: up for the lack of depth in the draft at. 1044 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 4: Center all, right let's go to the, Spot, Brian first and, 1045 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 4: foremost who are your first round edge players in this. 1046 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 3: Class i've Got carter And green are my first, two 1047 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:50,440 Speaker 3: and then in the second ROUND i Have Mikeil williams 1048 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,560 Speaker 3: are our young man From Boston. College i'm sure you've 1049 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 3: got the name down perfect As araku exactly and so 1050 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,360 Speaker 3: and Newman yellen from From, ole miss is in my. 1051 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:07,239 Speaker 3: Group i'm hearing a lot of things About pierce that 1052 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 3: might drive him down the. Board there's some things off 1053 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,000 Speaker 3: the field that need to be answered. THERE i think 1054 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:15,840 Speaker 3: there were some things that need to be answered About 1055 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,279 Speaker 3: green as, well BUT i feel more comfortable with that 1056 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,320 Speaker 3: THAN i do What i'm hearing About. 1057 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,400 Speaker 2: Pierce so keep an eye On. 1058 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 3: Pierce if there starts to be a slide from The tennessee, 1059 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:29,839 Speaker 3: edge THEN i think you'll know why from watching our 1060 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,719 Speaker 3: show here. Today BUT i think it's a really really good, 1061 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,440 Speaker 3: group AND i do Like carter. 1062 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,719 Speaker 2: LOT i Think Mike green is going to be a 1063 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:38,640 Speaker 2: star in this. League. 1064 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 1: Yeah that his tape is, awesome, man it really. 1065 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 3: Is it's and it's a transfer From West, virginia sweet From. 1066 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 3: Virginia and SO I i JUST i just love the. 1067 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 3: PLAYER i love the, BEND i love the, EXPLOSIVENESS i 1068 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,160 Speaker 3: love the strength he plays. WITH i think that he, 1069 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 3: is you, know with Mikel williams and LIKE i, say, 1070 00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,719 Speaker 3: uh you Know Boston. College and that's that's an explosive 1071 00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,640 Speaker 3: player as. Well so to, me it's it's kind of 1072 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 3: a group Where Michael williams is in. There he's a 1073 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,799 Speaker 3: good looking. Guy, Physically, uh he's got a lot of good. 1074 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,799 Speaker 3: TRAITS i don't think he's as good of a pass 1075 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,640 Speaker 3: rusher as these other, guys, yep but that's kind of 1076 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:15,279 Speaker 3: Where i'm at with. 1077 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,640 Speaker 4: Him so how do you See Jalen? Walker then you 1078 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,200 Speaker 4: didn't mention. Me do you have him as an off ball? 1079 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,920 Speaker 3: GUY i have him as an off ball, Linebacker And 1080 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 3: i'll tell you WHY. 1081 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:25,719 Speaker 4: I. 1082 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,440 Speaker 3: WAS i initially went into thinking that he's going to 1083 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,520 Speaker 3: have to play off ball. Linebacker AND i looked at 1084 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,839 Speaker 3: his size and everybody's saying he's an. Edge he's an, 1085 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 3: Edge he's an, edge And i'm, like at that, SIZE 1086 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:42,240 Speaker 3: i don't know if he could play full time, edge you, know, yeah, yeah. 1087 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,799 Speaker 3: Yeah SO i was thinking very similar to what The 1088 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,279 Speaker 3: cowboys do With Michael. Parsons Michael parsons doesn't always play 1089 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,920 Speaker 3: off ball. Linebacker BUT i don't think you could Play 1090 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,640 Speaker 3: walker as an every down edge and expect him to hold. 1091 00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,960 Speaker 3: Up So i'm going to play him as a linebacker 1092 00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,120 Speaker 3: and bring him in on some situal some situals as. 1093 00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 3: WELL i think he's an inside linebacker and Then i'm 1094 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,880 Speaker 3: going to use him in situations as a. Rusher but 1095 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,440 Speaker 3: it'll probably. Develop we'll see if he can handle the. 1096 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:12,160 Speaker 3: Workload but talking to scouts around the, league they're worried 1097 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,440 Speaker 3: about him getting beat, up much LIKE i was worried 1098 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,719 Speaker 3: about him getting beat up playing as a full time. 1099 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 3: Edge we'll see how he's how he's used in that. 1100 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:21,279 Speaker 3: Regard i'm with. 1101 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:22,719 Speaker 4: YOU i want to lot to that second. Tier you 1102 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,440 Speaker 4: didn't mention these. Guys i'll throw them out to. You 1103 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,279 Speaker 4: how do you Stack, Scorrton Landon jackson and then the 1104 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:29,799 Speaker 4: two out stay, Kids sawyer And. 1105 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 3: Toamalow, YEAH i like To amllow better than, that AND 1106 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,719 Speaker 3: i HAVE i Know scorrton started really high on a 1107 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,840 Speaker 3: lot of people's, boards you, know like the, media, scouts 1108 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,879 Speaker 3: we're all talking about scorting top, five top, ten Top 1109 00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,800 Speaker 3: now we really don't hear. Him but when you start 1110 00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,360 Speaker 3: THESE a AND m kids were really really rough on. 1111 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,719 Speaker 3: Me AND i mean rough BECAUSE i couldn't figure out 1112 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,400 Speaker 3: is it scheme things or is it you, know? Ability 1113 00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:00,200 Speaker 3: and they're good looking kids, physically they play with some 1114 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,799 Speaker 3: power they don't always rush the pass are. Great there's 1115 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,879 Speaker 3: too much of running down the middle of these uh 1116 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,719 Speaker 3: of the uh of the. Blocker they don't free themselves 1117 00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,880 Speaker 3: nearly as much As i'd like to see. THEM i 1118 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,719 Speaker 3: think to Them allow From Ohio, state he is you 1119 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:21,400 Speaker 3: talk about a safe. Pick, uh you, know it's when 1120 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,560 Speaker 3: you know his deal is like he's played a ton 1121 00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,759 Speaker 3: of big. Games he's steady against the. Run he gives 1122 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,359 Speaker 3: you a little bit as a pass, rusher but that's 1123 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 3: kind of where you're. AT i think the ceiling with 1124 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,560 Speaker 3: him as a player is kind of who he is right. 1125 00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,160 Speaker 3: Now IF i use that the right, WAY i always 1126 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,719 Speaker 3: screw up the ceiling and floor. Thing but BUT i 1127 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,560 Speaker 3: kind of feel like he is who he, is that's 1128 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,040 Speaker 3: who you're. Drafting but he is going to play a 1129 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,440 Speaker 3: ton of snaps for. You he's going to be good against, 1130 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 3: run and he's going to be uh really really uh 1131 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 3: you know uh occasionally give. 1132 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:51,000 Speaker 2: You that pass. 1133 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 3: Rush i'm not as high as on on the others 1134 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,360 Speaker 3: when you talk talk, about you, know With sawyer and 1135 00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 3: guys like, that AND i kind of think they're kind 1136 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,640 Speaker 3: of limiting to who they. ARE i have him more 1137 00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,040 Speaker 3: as a fourth round. PLAYER i know he played very 1138 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,160 Speaker 3: well in That texas, game got a key play at the, 1139 00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,799 Speaker 3: end the, sack the fumble and all that stuff like. 1140 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,480 Speaker 3: That BUT i kind of feel like that that's another 1141 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:16,759 Speaker 3: guy that's very much a kind of limited to what 1142 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 3: he can, do probably doesn't have the explosiveness to rush 1143 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,320 Speaker 3: the edge like AND i really do like The texas, 1144 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:27,600 Speaker 3: kid but him And swinson FROM, lsu or the two 1145 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,399 Speaker 3: kids THAT i kind of have THAT i think him 1146 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,680 Speaker 3: And canard as well From South carolina are all those 1147 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:34,160 Speaker 3: guys as. 1148 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 1: Well all, right last two. 1149 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,319 Speaker 4: Questions what jumps out at you about the off ball 1150 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 4: linebacker and defensive back? 1151 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:43,640 Speaker 3: CLASSES i, think to, me what scares me a little 1152 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:47,040 Speaker 3: bit about the defensive back? CLASS i think you can 1153 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,560 Speaker 3: grab your quality. SAFETY i think That. WATTS i think 1154 00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:54,200 Speaker 3: people are sleeping On macouba From. Texas you, know people 1155 00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:58,279 Speaker 3: have talked About starks a, bunch but a man of 1156 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,760 Speaker 3: worry From South. CAROLINA i see a man Of warriy 1157 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:05,800 Speaker 3: testing numbers are, great film doesn't always match the testing 1158 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,279 Speaker 3: numbers with him as a. PLAYER i THINK i Think 1159 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,799 Speaker 3: Watts Notre dame is, really, really really really. GOOD i 1160 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,360 Speaker 3: don't have a first round safety BUT i do Like, 1161 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,560 Speaker 3: WATTS i do Like Mcooba. Starks is there a man 1162 00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,239 Speaker 3: Of Warri winston From Penn state would be another one 1163 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:21,520 Speaker 3: that you might want to look at right. 1164 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:26,480 Speaker 4: There good Tackler winston Is he's. Phenomenal, yeah excellent. Tackler excellent. 1165 00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:30,040 Speaker 3: Tackler now the thing with the, QUARTERBACKS i do Like 1166 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:34,279 Speaker 3: reville From East, CAROLINA i Like baron From, texas AND 1167 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,840 Speaker 3: i do Like morrison From Notre. Dame now the problem 1168 00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:41,520 Speaker 3: Is i'm dealing with a. Knee i'm dealing with the 1169 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,760 Speaker 3: guy that people might think is a little bit doesn't 1170 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,880 Speaker 3: have the length In, baron And morrison has. 1171 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:47,279 Speaker 2: Had the hip. 1172 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:51,359 Speaker 3: Issues and so again this is the disadvantage that you 1173 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 3: AND i. Have we don't get to sit there and 1174 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,719 Speaker 3: listen to all the medical stuff that the teams. Have 1175 00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 3: If i'm The Dallas, cowboys and that's the kind of 1176 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,680 Speaker 3: the TEAM i cover work, with if, there If ravel 1177 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 3: got to them at forty four and Doctor, Cooper Dan, 1178 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,760 Speaker 3: cooper The cowboys, doctor did the surgery on the, Knee 1179 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:12,160 Speaker 3: SO i think That dallas would consider having with drafting 1180 00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,720 Speaker 3: him at forty four if he was. There, now again 1181 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,760 Speaker 3: there's the QUESTIONS i have is you know where how 1182 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:24,000 Speaker 3: these injuries gonna sort. Out we're Getting Will johnson's gonna 1183 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:29,320 Speaker 3: gonna run. TODAY i Like thomas From Florida, State Amos, 1184 00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 3: Porter harriston From kentucky is a good little tough. Player 1185 00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:41,120 Speaker 3: Noel williams from Cal Riley riley From, Louisville strong From Virginia, 1186 00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,880 Speaker 3: Tech harrish From Kansas. State there's some guys if you're 1187 00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,320 Speaker 3: looking for nickel. Players if you're looking from guys that 1188 00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:52,120 Speaker 3: are really good nickel, players there's. Some there's some guys 1189 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,240 Speaker 3: that can definitely play in the slot. HERE i think 1190 00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:59,280 Speaker 3: That hussey From North carolina is another one of those 1191 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 3: guys as. Well mohammed From oregon similar type of. Guy 1192 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 3: so there there's. 1193 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,160 Speaker 2: Some there's some. 1194 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:08,880 Speaker 3: Guys if you're just looking for a guy that could 1195 00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:12,680 Speaker 3: play straight zone the zone. Player burke From Ohio state 1196 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,400 Speaker 3: is a guy much later in the. Draft but if 1197 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:19,600 Speaker 3: you're playing your team is very zone, Heavy burke From 1198 00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,440 Speaker 3: Ohio state is a guy you need to take in. 1199 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,760 Speaker 4: Consideration all, right final, Question, brian give me some like 1200 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 4: a handful three or four Of brian broad his late 1201 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,400 Speaker 4: round pet cats that you think everyone's sleeping on and 1202 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:30,920 Speaker 4: they shouldn't. 1203 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 2: Be oh, man you're always gonna get me with THESE i. 1204 00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:42,640 Speaker 3: LISTEN I i think That, restrepo the slot From, miami 1205 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,560 Speaker 3: it ran a four to, eight is still a damn 1206 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:49,200 Speaker 3: good football. PLAYER i would not go into this draft 1207 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 3: thinking he's a four eight. Guy this guy plays much, 1208 00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:56,880 Speaker 3: quicker he. SEPARATES i know people have dinged in because 1209 00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:57,640 Speaker 3: he's a four eight. 1210 00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,160 Speaker 2: Guy just watch the. 1211 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,920 Speaker 3: Tape this guy makes a ton of place and he 1212 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:07,600 Speaker 3: makes big plays for. You i'm a, big big fan 1213 00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,600 Speaker 3: of his. WORK i think he plays faster than for. 1214 00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,120 Speaker 2: EIGHT i think. 1215 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:16,360 Speaker 3: People are sleeping on On Dylan gabriel From. Oregon, Now 1216 00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:20,880 Speaker 3: Dylan gabriel probably doesn't fit everybody's, eye But i'll tell 1217 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,000 Speaker 3: you a team that might Consider Dylan gabriel is The 1218 00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,720 Speaker 3: Miami dolphins because they play with a similar type of 1219 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,160 Speaker 3: quarterback there And miami has had a lot of problems 1220 00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:33,320 Speaker 3: with their with their backup quarterback. Situation but if you're 1221 00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,200 Speaker 3: gonna play with a, shorter left handed, guy that's deadly. 1222 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,720 Speaker 3: Accurate And Dylan gabriel is a damn good player for 1223 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,520 Speaker 3: you right. THERE i think he's a heck of a. 1224 00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:47,360 Speaker 3: PLAYER i am a, big big fan of of this Of, 1225 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:54,160 Speaker 3: coney the the, cornerback And i'll tell you why there's 1226 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,040 Speaker 3: he is a guy that let me get to my 1227 00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:58,960 Speaker 3: notes and make SURE i want to say WHAT i 1228 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,760 Speaker 3: want to, say BECAUSE i watching him yesterday and and 1229 01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:07,800 Speaker 3: By Lil coney From Western. Michigan and this kid's a 1230 01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:12,320 Speaker 3: transfer from From Indiana, state and he's got really good 1231 01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,640 Speaker 3: height speed. Combination he's got range to. Him he could, 1232 01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,280 Speaker 3: turn he can, run he can cover. GROUND i mean 1233 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,360 Speaker 3: he could stay in. FASE i mean patient in the. 1234 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,360 Speaker 3: PRESS i mean this guy is a TOUGH i mean 1235 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,280 Speaker 3: he played against some really some good COMPETITION uh FROM 1236 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,200 Speaker 3: uh this. Year you know when you watch it Play 1237 01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:35,360 Speaker 3: Ohio state In. Wisconsin he held his. OWN i think, 1238 01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 3: That LIKE i, SAID i think some people if you 1239 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,440 Speaker 3: need a corner that can, cover that can play, man 1240 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:44,360 Speaker 3: can play. Zone cony From Western michigan would be a 1241 01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,320 Speaker 3: guy in day. THREE i think you. Would you would 1242 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,360 Speaker 3: take a good look at. 1243 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:48,680 Speaker 1: Some nice deep. 1244 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,520 Speaker 4: Names you can hear him on ONE o five three 1245 01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,919 Speaker 4: the fan In. Dallas you can hear him and see 1246 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:54,880 Speaker 4: him on The draft show On Dallas cowboys Dot. Com, 1247 01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:56,800 Speaker 4: brian anything else you want the folks to know about 1248 01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:57,280 Speaker 4: before we say. 1249 01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 3: Goodbye no, MAN i appreciate the opportunity to be with, you. 1250 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,800 Speaker 3: GUYS i always look forward to. THIS i love talking 1251 01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,880 Speaker 3: draft with. You it's, hey good luck to, you and 1252 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,760 Speaker 3: may all the tags on your board. Glow you know 1253 01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:13,680 Speaker 3: you JUST i used to that's WHEN I i WHEN 1254 01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,720 Speaker 3: i was in a war, ROOM i always was the 1255 01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,840 Speaker 3: last one to turn the lights out WHEN i, left 1256 01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,200 Speaker 3: And i'd stand in for that board And i'd ask 1257 01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,960 Speaker 3: the draft, GUDS i, go please just let the tags start. 1258 01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:26,400 Speaker 3: Blinking let them start blinking the ones that are going 1259 01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,760 Speaker 3: to be The hall Of fame, Players and then that 1260 01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,520 Speaker 3: WAY i felt better about. It but, yeah it should 1261 01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:33,960 Speaker 3: be a lot of. Fun i'm Sure Green bay would 1262 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,080 Speaker 3: be a great. HOST i don't, know are you, going 1263 01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:37,440 Speaker 3: are you staying? Back are you going to? 1264 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:37,920 Speaker 2: Draft? 1265 01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,480 Speaker 1: No, No i'll be doing some live shows here during 1266 01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:41,200 Speaker 1: the during the, Week. 1267 01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,880 Speaker 3: So, OKAY i have to, say, yeah pack pack your 1268 01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:45,800 Speaker 3: jacket if you were going to, go because it sounds 1269 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:47,959 Speaker 3: like it's gonna be a little bit of a chilly draft. 1270 01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:49,880 Speaker 2: For folks up. There but it should be a lot of. 1271 01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:51,440 Speaker 4: Fun you, KNOW i haven't looked is it supposed to 1272 01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:52,840 Speaker 4: be like in the, Forties like what is it supposed. 1273 01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:54,720 Speaker 2: To oh, yeah oh, yeah nighttime in The. 1274 01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:57,720 Speaker 1: I'll tell you. 1275 01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:01,439 Speaker 4: What the leap there last week here we had highs 1276 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,520 Speaker 4: in the upper. Thirty so it's just it's been cold 1277 01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:03,919 Speaker 4: On North. 1278 01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:04,440 Speaker 1: Man it's been. 1279 01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,240 Speaker 2: Rough i'll tell you. What i've been. 1280 01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,520 Speaker 5: WATCHING i love baseball And i've been watching Those East coast. 1281 01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:11,720 Speaker 5: Games it's been kind of it's been been kind of 1282 01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,320 Speaker 5: rough on some of my My Texas rangers had to 1283 01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,880 Speaker 5: go make a trip To chicago where they didn't have 1284 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,320 Speaker 5: the right gear for, that for that whole. Thing but 1285 01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:21,960 Speaker 5: instead of hats this, year the commissions are going to 1286 01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,600 Speaker 5: put those old starter, parkas you, know The Bill, parcells 1287 01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 5: That Bill parcells like he's wearing a sleeping, bag that 1288 01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,280 Speaker 5: big old parka that he used to. Wear that's what 1289 01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:39,600 Speaker 5: that's When Travis hunter with The New York giants Select 1290 01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:41,720 Speaker 5: Travis hunter and then they're gonna put a Big. 1291 01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,920 Speaker 2: Bill parcells starter starter park on. 1292 01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:50,640 Speaker 4: It oh, yeah this is Not Las vegas and them 1293 01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,480 Speaker 4: taking the boat on The Blaggio. 1294 01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:57,000 Speaker 3: Fi, no this is this Is this is guys in 1295 01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:01,080 Speaker 3: the green room meeting brats and having a hell of. 1296 01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:02,880 Speaker 2: Time, Man it's gonna be a lot of. Fun it's 1297 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:03,440 Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of. 1298 01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,439 Speaker 4: Fun you're gonna put them in the toboggan and they're 1299 01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,840 Speaker 4: gonna pull them across the frozen lake on. 1300 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:08,600 Speaker 2: The back of a. 1301 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,880 Speaker 3: Snowmobile yeah, YEAH i forgot the sled. 1302 01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:12,800 Speaker 1: Dogs it'll be on. Me. 1303 01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:16,640 Speaker 4: Fantastic, Oh, brian this is always, fun. MAN i always appreciate. 1304 01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,760 Speaker 4: IT i value our conversations and our and uh sharing 1305 01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:21,200 Speaker 4: information AND i really appreciate. 1306 01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:22,720 Speaker 1: It good luck with the drafts and have fun my. 1307 01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,280 Speaker 2: Men thank you, There, JOHN i appreciate. You take. 1308 01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,520 Speaker 4: Care brian brought us in The johnsontle, podcast brought to 1309 01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,400 Speaker 4: you By, citizens the official bank of The giants from 1310 01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,080 Speaker 4: The hackensack And Britney health podcast. Studio keep getting better 1311 01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,200 Speaker 4: For brian brought us On John. Shmulke we'll see you next. Time, 1312 01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:34,680 Speaker 4: everybody